I live in new York city and purchased the ninebot max just a couple of days ago, and trust me the speed and handling its just perfect for the city ,I ride from wall street to grand central in 12 minutes and that's just perfect timing for me ,I really Enjoy the ride ,I don't feel like taking the subway anymore👍😎🛴🛣🛣🛣🛣🛣
I live in NYC too, just ordered the Max. The other options are probably better if you ride for leisure on bike paths or more suburban roads, but in the city, you can't really go so fast. And the Max has a really solid build quality, and the best range compared with these 3. I don't want to have to worry about charging it every night.
Great review. Congratulations for writing real honest reviews. Something hard to find on the internet. I have been working in a sharing mobility company for 3 years, we used to have ES4 and Max (non foldable) and quality construction difference between ES4 and Max is huge. The Max has zero problems while ES4 is a nightmare. Who would say they are made from the same manufacturer? max = hammer, es4 = toy
Something never mentioned in any review that made me regret getting the Apollo City. I really loved my Apollo city scooter until I got a flat tire. First I tried to buy replacement from Apollo but decided against it when I saw that it was going to cost me $50 for two inner tubes ($20 for shipping! Really!). I went shopping for tires elsewhere and found that they use a weird rim size (50-134) which is not the standard size rim that most manufacturers use for 8.5” x 2” tires. So you can’t use the 8.5”x 2” tires that are widely available for most scooters like the M365. I found only one seller on Amazon that sells the right size tires for this scooter, but they’re poor quality. And if you want to install solid tires on it, you will not find solid tires that fit 50-134 rims.
Have you tried getting an air hose on the flat tyre? You won't unless you get a valve extender. They hid that part in their video on how to change the tyre the duplicitous pricks. I've had 4 flats which turn out not to be punctures but the tube splitting on the seam. They said it can carry 125 kg which is bullshit as I'm 105kg and the back tyre just blows out leaving me stranded miles from home. I'm so filthy on this as I pad $1350 for a scooter I refuse to ride now because it's so unreliable. You need to be able to repair it yourself or be prepared to be arse raped paying to get it fixed.
Bought an Apollo City at a pawn shop today for $500 CAD ($384 USD) with 580 kilometers (360 miles) on it, rode it for 14 kilometers (8.6 miles), and the battery is still at 4/5 bars. No noises or problems. Hits 42 kmh (26mph) with ease on flats, 25 kmh (15 mph) up moderate hills, and 15 kmh (9.3 mph) up really steep hills. Could use a little lube & a new rear tire (tread's at about 30%) but that's it. Going to line the rims with PVC tire liners when I change the tires, and buy a proper pump to prevent the tube punctures that everyone keeps crying about. The $500 I spent, I'll make back in tips in a week serving/bartending. No more $20 cab rides to work or paying $5.75 a day for the bus. Can't go wrong with the Apollo City whether it's pre-owned, certified refurbished, or brand new (if you have the money for any of the above).
As my first scoot I find the max fun and fast. I'm sure I will upgrade at some point but its a great ride and it changed my life! Dont get too hung up on which one. Just get one!
Two things I would like to see change on the Apollo City. The folding mechanism on the handle bar would be better if it matched the one on the Emove Cruise where you pull it out to unlock it. This one on the Apollo I feel like the threading would wear off over time. The other thing I would like to see changed on it is a different stem folding mechanism since this one you can accidentally step on while riding.
Have had my Ninebot max for about 6 months now and I really like it. It's my commuter of choice when going to and from work. So far i've had zero issues and it's basicly like brand new. If I had to upgrade I'd go with the new Apollo City 2022. Reliability is, for me, second to none.
Hey Chuck! I have the Apollo City assuming your range test was on mode 3 you got 17.9 miles? What if I were to use mode 1 or 2, would the city go further than that range? Thanks.
I was wondering the same thing. When testing comparables, the variables have to be the same as much as possible. Same speed, same route, same weight for rider. I love this review but this one stat stood out as a little wonky for me.
@@davidlefort2308 I agree, speed should be compared at the same rate. As far as weight of rider and route, I think they did it all using the same variables. It would be interesting to know what's ESG take on this.
@@philmartinez1626 Yes, if you went slower the range would increase -- how much??? Not sure. We only test scooter ranges at the typical commuting speed we would normally ride at. This absolutely makes the test biased but useful for those that ride the scooters at the normal riding speed. If we went the same speed then you can basically just extrapolate based on battery watt-hours.
I think for the long run..definitely customer service is very important.. since it doesn't matter who got more range / speed or suspension, if it breaks at least there's someone there to answer your questions 😃
Been interested in scooter for quick trips. But I have a question. Do these scooter have a way hold onto coffee like a 16 to 30 oz moca. One or more cups. Or transporting pizza?
If your are going to compare range, you have to use a common speed. Of course the City is going to have less range if it goes faster. Lock the speed of the city to the same turtle speed of the max and I’m pretty sure its gonna be close.
Stevie Rios Buddy, I think you are the one that needs to think about what you are saying. We are talking about stock, 900$ scooters here and comparing them. Wtf are talking about with your mods, you just basically doubled the price of the the scoot, so obviously its going to kick everything else’s ass. Compare apples to apples before insulting people.
@Stevie Rios The Company name is Segway and they sell different kinds of ninebot series. There is a reason why Segway doesn't like getting interviewed by ESG, a well established company for sure, but as far as integrity goes? I dont think so. Why would you spend that much on upgrades when you can get scooters with those specs for less than those prices? Ninebot Max are made for scooter sharing system. Im sure you own one, there's a reason for that reaction. 90% of the scooter enthusiasts would tell you the exact same thing were telling you. Enjoy your scooter though lol 😆
I agree with this. I bought an Apollo Explorer based on your reviews and they were extremely accurate. It is exactly as you described. So firstoff thank you. I often ride with my 8 year old kid on his Segway electric kid scooter and it has a max speed of about 10 mph. My range is off the charts when I am with him because we are going so slow. It would not surprise me if the range was over 70 miles at that speed. As a side note, it can be very relaxing cruising at that speed listening to pod cast getting vitamin D while sort of compensating for the reduced attention with lower speeds. Maybe there is an equation we can use that computes range based on deltas in speed? I know it will not be super accurate but otherwise someone will have to pick a speed like 18 mph as "standard" and test all these guys with that as a max. My other scooter scooter, the Costco es3 has a top speed of about 16 mph but the breaks were SO BAD, as you pointed out and flagged in your reviews, that it was dangerous. However, due to the hard tires and super low top speed it has a pretty good range I love having disk breaks on the Apollo! I discovered electric scooters after nearly killing myself on a one wheel and think it is so funny that you choose this market to start. Clearly, your detailed underwritten but honest approach can be applied elsewhere. Much appreciated.
From my point of view.... IMHO, I prefer the trigger throttle to the thumb... when you use the thumb throttle, you can't use your thumb for control on the handle. I can feather how much power I need quite easily. If cruising, I control the cruising speed by power level, and keep it at max in P1 or P2. Max in P3 is too fast for me. If going up steep hills, P3 is good.
@@johnglennie4282 I have pneumatic tire in the front and solid in the back. No more flats yet. The solid tire works fine if you ride at moderate speeds. No more then 30km/h.
Apollo city is a total lemon. 4 flat rear tyres in the first 300km of riding. Can't get a solid tyre either. Dangerous when you get a blow out at high speed. Boat anchor and waste of good cash.
Try unscrewing the deck and disconnecting the wires that you can. Take pics of necessary. Then plug it back together again. NOT sure if that will work as I've never done it. Also while the deck is up check the charging connection.
It's not 2 years (apollo) be aware! I got tons a of issues with my explore after only 2 months and they we're asking me to pay over $250 for water damages. I went for a ride (bleu sky, sunny day) and I got cut in the rain and it stop working... I got a few flat tires .... let's be honest apollo warranty is one year and and 2 for things that you won't have to change.
Unfortunately there isn't a single manufacturer we know of that will cover water damage. Even though some scooters are IP rated, they're still electric vehicles that are easily damaged by moisture and/or submersion in water. IP rating is more an assurance of its ability to withstand the elements, but not a guarantee against damage. Apollo's warranty covers some things up to 1 year and others up to 2 years, but we're sorry to hear your scooter got damaged not matter the circumstance. Hope you get back out there soon! - Trina
I guess your coupon expired, I just tried getting the Apollo City with your coupon and it tells me to enter a valid coupon. Too bad, the City is quite expensive at $1299, even a $100 savings would be great.
I had ninebot max… to say it broke my heart is an understatement. Set me back an extra 200 due to all the tire changes (my commute was only 4K on decent roads). Don’t recommend for customer service either
I have a ninebot max scooter and I have about 300 miles on it. The only problem I have had is the rear fender broke when I crossed a rain gutter. Customer service is terrible. I will be looking into apollo.
Honestly, acceleration with escooters don't even matter that much. The only thing that matters when it comes to power is how steep of a hill the scooter can climb and the max speed it can maintain. Acceleration times aren't that big of a deal unless you're looking for something to play with then yeah fast acceleration is fun.
I live in downtown Chicago where a few seconds can make the difference between safely clearing the next intersection or getting stuck at a red light every block. In this scenario acceleration makes a huge difference.
I just had 4,500(2,800 miles) mileage on my Ninebot, but after 1 run with the Apollo City I can't turn back to Ninebot. Aside from not having suspension, Ninebot was so stiff to drive. Ninebot has the handle too close to each other, and no flexibility. You can't compare the first class driving a better scooter like City or even Emove, from the Ninebot.
This is true, but it comes at the price of reliability. That ninebot max is bulletproof. Soon you’ll find out why the ninebot is such a great seller, and it’s not because people are looking to save a few hundred bucks….
@@ahf5471 From only short experience, you are 100% correct. I not so confident with Apollo City as the beast work horse of the Ninebot Max. So I take back all what I said before. )
Just for those who are on the fence- Segway//Ninebot has *zero* support. Literally nothing. They have terrible follow up and can only offer returns to the original store where purchased. Apollo City has *incredible* follow up in pre/post sales and have dumped my two Ninebot F25’s for an Apollo City. Ninebot’s have severe stem, battery and braking issues. Basically 💯 unsafe. The forums are correct and these issues are across all of their models.
I strongly disagree that Ninebot max has best folding mechanism with no issues. I had it and it has worst folding mechanism. I can explain that in detail, but it can't be done through comment. The store which sold it to me admitted they had a lot of complains about that issue and refunded me in full as it's badly engineered (as said by the seller). I rode it for 711km (444 miles) before stem snapped while riding.
What he doesn't mention is the best scooter in combining suspension and dual pneumatic tires (aka- best ride quality & comfort) - winner - Apollo City(Zero 9)
@@NobleTenz its essentially the same everything even built in the same exact factory, on the only difference that separates it is the battery, the rating would be the same
7:42 tyres look a bit flat? I hope you didn't test performance like that. And what's with the "folding speed isn't as important" rubbish? If it isn't important why test it only to disregard the findings? Seems pretty arbitrary to me.
One year later (it now Sept 2021) Ninebot Max $879 amazon ($949 from Segway), EMove Touring $899, and Apollo City $999. So price increases across the board. I'm new to these "e-scooters" and wondering is this standard for price increases for models that are at least one year old from the time of this review...I know the Segway Ninebot Max is much older than that but the price keeps increasing. I'm thinking "if these were cars" there is no way a one or two year old model would cost more now than when they first were released. Just saw review of the Ninebot Max from 2019 at it was $699 did they make $250's worth of improvements since then??? These prices I got from the links provided and the respective manufactures sites.
One thing I learned after owning my first scooter for a few weeks is design matters nothing. The scooters get dirty in no time making them ugly anyway. It pretty much makes a 'design scooter' like Unagi meaningless.
@@corsinivideos idk what you're talking about mine goes up to 19mph, it's not fast doe, but not pathetic by any means, also 19mph makes me comfortable to ride casually.
@Stevie Rios I live in the NYC, I feel the same, I can take my scooter inside almost every store I go in, and put it on the side to do whatever I want, but for those that have bolts can cable wires everywhere, people treat you as if you were riding a motorcycle, it makes a huge difference in daily life, plus, I'm not against the ones that going faster, but mine goes 19mph I feel pretty comfortable and safe
@Stevie Rios that's awesome, but hardly just a reflash. That's a motor replacement and a battery upgrade. I made my comment based on the person saying you could reflash it. I had a max for six months and loved it. I've also had hyper scooters and everything in between. I always loved that the Max and now my Booster GT do not look like science projects with wires everywhere.
Hi - Did u get any issues with the break line falling out of place ?? Ive bought this scooter 5 days ago and keep getting the issue - th-cam.com/video/XbAO0jX5BK4/w-d-xo.html please help if u can
Yup! My biggest gripe in getting my first scooter was that I didn't want it to struggle going up hills and bridges. I got a Mantis and very happy I did! I rocket up hills!
I got a Kano mantis lite single motor, it blows these out the water. 30mph solidly built with excellent suspension. 30mph is more than quick enough ! No dual motor needed
@@aragorn318 I was choosing out of the Mantis and the Emove Touring, and chose the Touring, cos the Mantis was just too heavy to lug around for home and work!!
@@rafhaley3904 Yep, I just ordered the Turbowheel Dart(Zero 9) five days ago and already own a perfectly working Zero 8. I refuse to go over 40 lbs on escooter
Great review! Shootout between some of my favourite scooters!
Good reviews on all scooters, probably the best on youtube, nice and clean, no bs. subbed, cheers from AU
Best review that I’ve seen so far...Thanks for the great review!
Thanks so much @jerry jadie! We really work hard to make the best videos we can and it is great to see the support.
This was incredibly helpful!! Thank you!
I live in new York city and purchased the ninebot max just a couple of days ago, and trust me the speed and handling its just perfect for the city ,I ride from wall street to grand central in 12 minutes and that's just perfect timing for me ,I really Enjoy the ride ,I don't feel like taking the subway anymore👍😎🛴🛣🛣🛣🛣🛣
does it fold well? ie bringing it into your apt?
@@dkeving4 I don't even folde it in the appartment, I have it ready to ride 🛴👍😁
Man the performance just wasn’t enough for me!
I live in NYC too, just ordered the Max. The other options are probably better if you ride for leisure on bike paths or more suburban roads, but in the city, you can't really go so fast. And the Max has a really solid build quality, and the best range compared with these 3. I don't want to have to worry about charging it every night.
Top speed?
Thanks Chuck. I'm going to pull-the-trigger on the Ninebot Max. By far, The Best Scooter Reviews . .. and Go-to-source for information.
Great review. Congratulations for writing real honest reviews. Something hard to find on the internet.
I have been working in a sharing mobility company for 3 years, we used to have ES4 and Max (non foldable) and quality construction difference between ES4 and Max is huge. The Max has zero problems while ES4 is a nightmare. Who would say they are made from the same manufacturer? max = hammer, es4 = toy
Great video. Agree with you on all the points
Something never mentioned in any review that made me regret getting the Apollo City. I really loved my Apollo city scooter until I got a flat tire. First I tried to buy replacement from Apollo but decided against it when I saw that it was going to cost me $50 for two inner tubes ($20 for shipping! Really!). I went shopping for tires elsewhere and found that they use a weird rim size (50-134) which is not the standard size rim that most manufacturers use for 8.5” x 2” tires. So you can’t use the 8.5”x 2” tires that are widely available for most scooters like the M365. I found only one seller on Amazon that sells the right size tires for this scooter, but they’re poor quality. And if you want to install solid tires on it, you will not find solid tires that fit 50-134 rims.
I wish I had read your post before buying. I have had 4 flats!
@@OsmiumFist what scooter should I buy instead?
@@robertp9370 Something with a solid back tyre at least. The Apollo City is a dud mate, an utter lemon.
Have you tried getting an air hose on the flat tyre? You won't unless you get a valve extender. They hid that part in their video on how to change the tyre the duplicitous pricks. I've had 4 flats which turn out not to be punctures but the tube splitting on the seam. They said it can carry 125 kg which is bullshit as I'm 105kg and the back tyre just blows out leaving me stranded miles from home. I'm so filthy on this as I pad $1350 for a scooter I refuse to ride now because it's so unreliable. You need to be able to repair it yourself or be prepared to be arse raped paying to get it fixed.
Have you found any other tires that fit well?
Thank you for excellent reviews!!!👍👍👍 own a Segway .
Fantastic infor. Well done! Grazia
Bought an Apollo City at a pawn shop today for $500 CAD ($384 USD) with 580 kilometers (360 miles) on it, rode it for 14 kilometers (8.6 miles), and the battery is still at 4/5 bars. No noises or problems. Hits 42 kmh (26mph) with ease on flats, 25 kmh (15 mph) up moderate hills, and 15 kmh (9.3 mph) up really steep hills. Could use a little lube & a new rear tire (tread's at about 30%) but that's it. Going to line the rims with PVC tire liners when I change the tires, and buy a proper pump to prevent the tube punctures that everyone keeps crying about. The $500 I spent, I'll make back in tips in a week serving/bartending. No more $20 cab rides to work or paying $5.75 a day for the bus. Can't go wrong with the Apollo City whether it's pre-owned, certified refurbished, or brand new (if you have the money for any of the above).
Thats really awesome! Great deal. Hope you enjoy your new scooter. -Vosk
As my first scoot I find the max fun and fast. I'm sure I will upgrade at some point but its a great ride and it changed my life! Dont get too hung up on which one. Just get one!
I’ve been flip flopping on what to buy for weeks now......thank you for the advice
Cool channel! Segway Ninebot is the best! That's why I'm ambassador for it in the Netherlands! :)
Even if its illegal, LOL
Do you have a suggested dealer in the Bay Area to replace the tires on the ninbot max?
Two things I would like to see change on the Apollo City. The folding mechanism on the handle bar would be better if it matched the one on the Emove Cruise where you pull it out to unlock it. This one on the Apollo I feel like the threading would wear off over time. The other thing I would like to see changed on it is a different stem folding mechanism since this one you can accidentally step on while riding.
How about emove cruiser vs apollo explore?
Is there going to be a review on the Apollo pro?
i thought the apollo pro would be reviewed in the month of june.
is it still gonna happen?
With wheels included, which one would win for ride quality?
I’m upgrading from the ninebot max to a zero 10x, is the zero 10x much bigger than the max though?
Hey thanks for the review. I was leaning towards the emove. Tried the link and was wondering how I add the coupon code you mentioned?
Look at the ESG website coupon code should be there. If you're ordering via Voro, it would ask you if you have coupon code just enter it there.
Please do more comparison videos
Noted! Will do. -Vosk
What’s the Chinese OEM equivalent to the Ninebot Max?
How do these compare to a nanrobot x4?
Have had my Ninebot max for about 6 months now and I really like it. It's my commuter of choice when going to and from work. So far i've had zero issues and it's basicly like brand new. If I had to upgrade I'd go with the new Apollo City 2022. Reliability is, for me, second to none.
Very insightful! Thanks for sharing.
In depth review...loved the graphics :) haven't tried the Ninebot Max...could be a nice one for a lighter wife :)
so i have a max g30.....but the other scooters if they capped the top speed to the same as what the g30 is i bet they would have beat it in range?
👍
Cheers
2500 km on my G30 Max in 1 year.. still solid as new
Great to hear. Amazing build quality!
Hey Chuck! I have the Apollo City assuming your range test was on mode 3 you got 17.9 miles? What if I were to use mode 1 or 2, would the city go further than that range? Thanks.
I was wondering the same thing. When testing comparables, the variables have to be the same as much as possible. Same speed, same route, same weight for rider. I love this review but this one stat stood out as a little wonky for me.
@@davidlefort2308 I agree, speed should be compared at the same rate. As far as weight of rider and route, I think they did it all using the same variables. It would be interesting to know what's ESG take on this.
@@philmartinez1626 Yes, if you went slower the range would increase -- how much??? Not sure. We only test scooter ranges at the typical commuting speed we would normally ride at. This absolutely makes the test biased but useful for those that ride the scooters at the normal riding speed. If we went the same speed then you can basically just extrapolate based on battery watt-hours.
I have the Ninebot Max solid stem.
Not sure of they sell that anymore as folding isn't a concern for me.
Have 200 miles on it and it's perfect.
1500 miles and still solid lol
2000 miles.. still solid..
Got the ninebot max and love it just ordered the Apollo explore because hey why not have two scooters
My feelings exactly!
I have 3 Ninebot Max's and an E-Move Cruiser haha 😆
My scooter the motor is at the front not sure if I like motor front or back 🙃
EMove Touring has a IP Rating of 54?
I think for the long run..definitely customer service is very important..
since it doesn't matter who got more range / speed or suspension, if it breaks at least there's someone there to answer your questions 😃
Been interested in scooter for quick trips. But I have a question. Do these scooter have a way hold onto coffee like a 16 to 30 oz moca. One or more cups. Or transporting pizza?
I’m sure you can find something online
If your are going to compare range, you have to use a common speed. Of course the City is going to have less range if it goes faster. Lock the speed of the city to the same turtle speed of the max and I’m pretty sure its gonna be close.
Was gonna say the same thing, I get 20-21 km speed on mode 1 probably be able to get 40 km max range going at that speed.
Stevie Rios Buddy, I think you are the one that needs to think about what you are saying. We are talking about stock, 900$ scooters here and comparing them. Wtf are talking about with your mods, you just basically doubled the price of the the scoot, so obviously its going to kick everything else’s ass.
Compare apples to apples before insulting people.
@Stevie Rios The Company name is Segway and they sell different kinds of ninebot series. There is a reason why Segway doesn't like getting interviewed by ESG, a well established company for sure, but as far as integrity goes? I dont think so. Why would you spend that much on upgrades when you can get scooters with those specs for less than those prices? Ninebot Max are made for scooter sharing system. Im sure you own one, there's a reason for that reaction. 90% of the scooter enthusiasts would tell you the exact same thing were telling you. Enjoy your scooter though lol 😆
I agree with this. I bought an Apollo Explorer based on your reviews and they were extremely accurate. It is exactly as you described. So firstoff thank you. I often ride with my 8 year old kid on his Segway electric kid scooter and it has a max speed of about 10 mph. My range is off the charts when I am with him because we are going so slow. It would not surprise me if the range was over 70 miles at that speed. As a side note, it can be very relaxing cruising at that speed listening to pod cast getting vitamin D while sort of compensating for the reduced attention with lower speeds. Maybe there is an equation we can use that computes range based on deltas in speed? I know it will not be super accurate but otherwise someone will have to pick a speed like 18 mph as "standard" and test all these guys with that as a max. My other scooter scooter, the Costco es3 has a top speed of about 16 mph but the breaks were SO BAD, as you pointed out and flagged in your reviews, that it was dangerous. However, due to the hard tires and super low top speed it has a pretty good range I love having disk breaks on the Apollo! I discovered electric scooters after nearly killing myself on a one wheel and think it is so funny that you choose this market to start. Clearly, your detailed underwritten but honest approach can be applied elsewhere. Much appreciated.
@@philmartinez1626 For the Explore L1 = 25 kph, L2 = 35 kph and L3 = 45 kph.
From my point of view.... IMHO, I prefer the trigger throttle to the thumb... when you use the thumb throttle, you can't use your thumb for control on the handle. I can feather how much power I need quite easily. If cruising, I control the cruising speed by power level, and keep it at max in P1 or P2. Max in P3 is too fast for me. If going up steep hills, P3 is good.
I prefer my twist throttle over all
So I don't get it,
Which tires are least likely to get flat,
the Emove Touring 8" mix of pneumatic and solid or the Ninebot max 10" pneumatic?
emoves rear tire is least likely to get flat because its solid. Which also makes the ride bumpier
I'm 6'2", 230lbs, 3 mile commute to work (round trip), with a couple pretty mean hills. Which one do you recommend based on that criteria alone?
For mean hills only a dual motor scooter will handle them properly
Where does the "96% of flats are the rear tyre" stat come from? That seems hard to believe
I believe it the amount of flat tyres I have had on mine in 2 weeks is a joke everyone back tyre lmfao 🤣
SHOWDOWN SCOOTER PURCHASE LINKS:
Segway Ninebot Max: geni.us/rhkI
Emove Touring: geni.us/i52Cs4
Apollo City: geni.us/agOo
I had the rear flat tiers twice in less then 4 months! I have 10 inch pneumatic. Should I change to solid ones?
I'm figuring I'll try the pneumatic tires first, then switch to honeycomb solids if I get too many flats.
@@johnglennie4282 I have pneumatic tire in the front and solid in the back. No more flats yet. The solid tire works fine if you ride at moderate speeds. No more then 30km/h.
This is 3 years ago! What about today? For the past 3 years Emove touring have been upgrading and Segway been also upgrading.
There has been update videos for both , please check our channel
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thanks for updating 🙏
Apollo city is a total lemon. 4 flat rear tyres in the first 300km of riding. Can't get a solid tyre either. Dangerous when you get a blow out at high speed. Boat anchor and waste of good cash.
I don't understand how the Max is so popular besides it being the most mass produced. The Apollo brand destroys it all around
Because segway has a store where you can buy it name one store where u can but an apollo or tjr other one
Ninebot Max is a smooth, quality and luxary scooter. Its my choice
Ok china
Ostin just Xiaomi pro2. Tarttis toisen!
I got a segway max only had it for six months now it won't charge when plugging in
Try unscrewing the deck and disconnecting the wires that you can. Take pics of necessary. Then plug it back together again. NOT sure if that will work as I've never done it. Also while the deck is up check the charging connection.
Reset it. Hold the brake and throttle all the way down while turning it on. Just happened to mine and it fixed it.
A friend of mine wants to ride this but he’s 250? Is that ok?
Im close to 200 and ride with groceries. It's fine.
Put a solid tire on apollo city when the rear deflates and it's officially better than emove touring ;)
Thanks! Will go with Ninebot Max... because of Costco (price, warranty, 90 day return)
What’s the price now at Costco? Thanks
It's not 2 years (apollo) be aware! I got tons a of issues with my explore after only 2 months and they we're asking me to pay over $250 for water damages. I went for a ride (bleu sky, sunny day) and I got cut in the rain and it stop working... I got a few flat tires .... let's be honest apollo warranty is one year and and 2 for things that you won't have to change.
Unfortunately there isn't a single manufacturer we know of that will cover water damage.
Even though some scooters are IP rated, they're still electric vehicles that are easily damaged by moisture and/or submersion in water. IP rating is more an assurance of its ability to withstand the elements, but not a guarantee against damage.
Apollo's warranty covers some things up to 1 year and others up to 2 years, but we're sorry to hear your scooter got damaged not matter the circumstance. Hope you get back out there soon! - Trina
emove cruiser =LG battery best
Emove Cruiser isnt in the same class tho
@@-joo3033 i think he meant touring?
@@ObliviousOverlord perhaps...but he said Cruiser
@@-joo3033 yea he prob got confused with his words. I get mixed up between the cruiser and touring lol
@@ObliviousOverlord Both Cruiser and Touring has LG batteries though!
if only the emove touring had two brakes and pneumatic rear tyre, it would be hands down the winner for me
Is the Apollo City the same thing as the Zero 9?
There are almost the same. The only difference is battery manufacturer
@@Pacjonek ..and the two year warranty from Apollo.
I guess your coupon expired, I just tried getting the Apollo City with your coupon and it tells me to enter a valid coupon. Too bad, the City is quite expensive at $1299, even a $100 savings would be great.
Thank you for the heads-up Wayne! I'll have a look. -Paul
I had ninebot max… to say it broke my heart is an understatement. Set me back an extra 200 due to all the tire changes (my commute was only 4K on decent roads). Don’t recommend for customer service either
Is it a weight thing??? How do you guys get all these blown tires?
@@vapeurdepisse nope 15kg below, the regenerative breaking also doesn’t work,fries the connectors and wires
I have a ninebot max scooter and I have about 300 miles on it. The only problem I have had is the rear fender broke when I crossed a rain gutter. Customer service is terrible. I will be looking into apollo.
Stevie Rios where can i get it ?
Honestly, acceleration with escooters don't even matter that much. The only thing that matters when it comes to power is how steep of a hill the scooter can climb and the max speed it can maintain. Acceleration times aren't that big of a deal unless you're looking for something to play with then yeah fast acceleration is fun.
Very cool! Thanks for sharing. -Vosk
I live in downtown Chicago where a few seconds can make the difference between safely clearing the next intersection or getting stuck at a red light every block. In this scenario acceleration makes a huge difference.
Kugoo M4 is a mix between the emove and apollo
except awful quality and cheap components and heavy, basically complete garbage in comparison.
I’m not clear on why in the battery round, Ninebot Max is the winner. It uses a “generic” battery and has the lowest watt of the three.
I’m slow, are you being sarcastic?
I just had 4,500(2,800 miles) mileage on my Ninebot, but after 1 run with the Apollo City I can't turn back to Ninebot. Aside from not having suspension, Ninebot was so stiff to drive. Ninebot has the handle too close to each other, and no flexibility. You can't compare the first class driving a better scooter like City or even Emove, from the Ninebot.
This is true, but it comes at the price of reliability. That ninebot max is bulletproof. Soon you’ll find out why the ninebot is such a great seller, and it’s not because people are looking to save a few hundred bucks….
@@ahf5471 From only short experience, you are 100% correct. I not so confident with Apollo City as the beast work horse of the Ninebot Max. So I take back all what I said before. )
Do not Trust any of the Weight Limit's if the Tyres are only Rated at 100kg's,
Just for those who are on the fence- Segway//Ninebot has *zero* support. Literally nothing. They have terrible follow up and can only offer returns to the original store where purchased. Apollo City has *incredible* follow up in pre/post sales and have dumped my two Ninebot F25’s for an Apollo City. Ninebot’s have severe stem, battery and braking issues. Basically 💯 unsafe. The forums are correct and these issues are across all of their models.
Anyone else getting 21.5 mph on their ninebot max? I know I do consistently. Weather 85 degrees plus in FL
How can you reach that speed?
@@gui1054 you can hack the scooter and make it go faster
I strongly disagree that Ninebot max has best folding mechanism with no issues. I had it and it has worst folding mechanism. I can explain that in detail, but it can't be done through comment. The store which sold it to me admitted they had a lot of complains about that issue and refunded me in full as it's badly engineered (as said by the seller). I rode it for 711km (444 miles) before stem snapped while riding.
Get a solid stem. I've got one and no issues.
What he doesn't mention is the best scooter in combining suspension and dual pneumatic tires (aka- best ride quality & comfort) - winner - Apollo City(Zero 9)
zero 9 doesnt have an IPX water resistance rating though right?
@@NobleTenz its essentially the same everything even built in the same exact factory, on the only difference that separates it is the battery, the rating would be the same
Nine bot has no suspension, which makes it hard to ride for a long time, knees start to hurt, why don't you talk about it?
It comes with an attachable seat you can buy that's awesome
I go for the ninebot max anyway i own one too haha
The Max is pretty great.
Emove touring took the dub here!
It's not the best at everything, but it does everything well. Can't wait for mine to come in next week! Bye bye Turboant, good riddance
7:42 tyres look a bit flat? I hope you didn't test performance like that. And what's with the "folding speed isn't as important" rubbish? If it isn't important why test it only to disregard the findings? Seems pretty arbitrary to me.
I was wondering the same, I wonder if the psi was correctly adjusted there.
the max is just a gift. such a good fuckin scooter. its that simple
One year later (it now Sept 2021) Ninebot Max $879 amazon ($949 from Segway), EMove Touring $899, and Apollo City $999. So price increases across the board.
I'm new to these "e-scooters" and wondering is this standard for price increases for models that are at least one year old from the time of this review...I know the Segway Ninebot Max is much older than that but the price keeps increasing. I'm thinking "if these were cars" there is no way a one or two year old model would cost more now than when they first were released.
Just saw review of the Ninebot Max from 2019 at it was $699 did they make $250's worth of improvements since then??? These prices I got from the links provided and the respective manufactures sites.
I think the price increases may be more related to inflation, increased demand and constrained supplies.
imo, the design of the Ninebot is just far better than the rest, it just looks clean and appealing.
No way the winner for the design has to be the apollo city
One thing I learned after owning my first scooter for a few weeks is design matters nothing. The scooters get dirty in no time making them ugly anyway. It pretty much makes a 'design scooter' like Unagi meaningless.
Might look the best but ill tell you right now 15.5mph is pathetic and its huge and bulky. Id take the other too all day.
@@corsinivideos idk what you're talking about mine goes up to 19mph, it's not fast doe, but not pathetic by any means, also 19mph makes me comfortable to ride casually.
@Stevie Rios I live in the NYC, I feel the same, I can take my scooter inside almost every store I go in, and put it on the side to do whatever I want, but for those that have bolts can cable wires everywhere, people treat you as if you were riding a motorcycle, it makes a huge difference in daily life, plus, I'm not against the ones that going faster, but mine goes 19mph I feel pretty comfortable and safe
Emove touring is IP54 rated
what does that mean??
@@ysmaelvillanueva7219 It has IP54 level water resistance
@@ysmaelvillanueva7219 It can take some splashing and rain, but not dunking it in water. Stay out of deep puddles. The warranty won't cover it.
Ninebot max is basically a tank. Slow, went far, and indestructible
It’s a great scooter
-Vosk
czoraj zamowilem maxa the grejt hulajnogę w waszym zestawieniu brakuje Xiaomi mia pro :X i czegos jeszcze .
Bro teach your editing skills lol
I'm hitting 19mph on my max every day on flats, love it, plus if I want to I can flash it and make it go up to 21-22 MPH....just sayin
how can you flash it to 22? cause i’ve only seen tutorials on flashing to 18 or 19
@@valen796 yeah I have yet to see someone be able to flash it for higher top speed. My GPS verified speed is 18 on a full charge.
22 is still slow..... 🐢
@Stevie Rios that's awesome, but hardly just a reflash. That's a motor replacement and a battery upgrade. I made my comment based on the person saying you could reflash it. I had a max for six months and loved it. I've also had hyper scooters and everything in between. I always loved that the Max and now my Booster GT do not look like science projects with wires everywhere.
I've hit 32 kmh or 19.8 mph on slight downhill. Even BRIEFLY touched 33. So meh, fast enough.
Edit: Without flashing.
Hi - Did u get any issues with the break line falling out of place ?? Ive bought this scooter 5 days ago and keep getting the issue - th-cam.com/video/XbAO0jX5BK4/w-d-xo.html please help if u can
As soon as you approach 200lbs 300ish watt scooters are just not enough.
Yup! My biggest gripe in getting my first scooter was that I didn't want it to struggle going up hills and bridges. I got a Mantis and very happy I did! I rocket up hills!
ohh.. ohh... ohhh! coupon! like that's gonna make a huge difference.
These guys are biased. Be careful guys. My advice. Go to a dual motor set up.
Elaborate on how they are biased
I got a Kano mantis lite single motor, it blows these out the water. 30mph solidly built with excellent suspension. 30mph is more than quick enough ! No dual motor needed
@@chirpywiggins5796 Not so light buddy. Not many enjoy lugging around a 50 lb scooter
@@aragorn318 I was choosing out of the Mantis and the Emove Touring, and chose the Touring, cos the Mantis was just too heavy to lug around for home and work!!
@@rafhaley3904 Yep, I just ordered the Turbowheel Dart(Zero 9) five days ago and already own a perfectly working Zero 8. I refuse to go over 40 lbs on escooter