Experimenting with Crazy Snowboard Stance Angles
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Try +45 on the back and -45 on the front.
😂 that’s a deadly stance for sure!
Had a rental set up like that when I was still learning😂
Best way to break your legs lmao
😅😅😅
I prefer +90 -90
I learned to ride in the very early 90s when really posi posi was the only game in town it seemed back then. I do ride duck from time to time but really I ride posi posi (+27, +12) for 95% of my riding. I love the position. Switch sucks of course (more like riding backwards) but when it comes to ripping it forwards it's just such a powerful position. It allows you to get your hips facing more downhill and opens up your body for those huge carves. The main reasons I don't ride much duck these days is that I primarily love to turn and burn with my board on/in the snow rather than in the air or on a park feature. It's also because I'm carrying a lifetime of wear and tear on my body and any negative angle on my back foot causes me knee pain these days - I'm 52 and been riding for 32 years - and posi posi is just so easy on the knees for me.
It's not a stance for a beginner (even though I learned that way) because it makes those early falling leaf drills and early turns etc much more difficult.
Just saying that although you felt awkward in posi posi, it was clear that elements of your riding looked so nice in some moments there. Stick with it and add it to your arsenal of riding.
I am 51 and have been riding since 1989. I am posi myself and ride a big board for my size. It’s best in steep and deep powder when you want to go real fast. Stance all the way back and four turns in 1000’ of vert! I spent over 20yrs riding Jackson Hole and the Teton back country.
Yup!! Bridge welder for 17yrs!! Three years ago detached bicep. That was awful. This past May I had back surgery on L4 L5! I refuse to give up 😂. I ride nothing but posi posi these days. Keeps me square down the mountain with minimum wear on the back. I rock a set of FLOW bindings, back foot set pretty loose so way easier to pull the latch. It’s never failed me yet. I still can wear the kids out though!!
The problem with very high positive angles like the 45/45 you tried is that alignment of the knees gets mechanically bad. If you think of the knees as hinges the are, the "hing pins" are on very different line on the front and the back. This is why you can feel locked in place and not be able to move correctly.
I run +59/+50 on my alpine snowboard. The hardboot bindings have toe-lift on the front and heel-lift on the back foot which corrects the alignment of the knees.
+30 +15
I've mostly ride +45 +35 and what I loved and couldn't find in duck stance is precisely how the back knee in an alpine stance is helping a lot turn initiation by pushing behind the front knee. Never had any lift on my bindings, it wasn't optimal I guess but never had the luck to hear about it (there wasn't internet at the time...) so I did with it and been fine as a more open stance was way more uncomfortable for my knees and I felt way less control and power because of it.
Pro tip for positive stance angle riding. Keep the front and back angles 9-12 degrees different for best carving positioning. I used to ride 36/24 back in the 90s but over the decades have gone more and more neutral. Now I’m at 21/12. When I started snowboarding I came from skiing so I use the cross under carving technique which is why duck stance just doesn’t feel great for me.
Thanks for the tips!
What’s your opinion on 30/9? Been seeing that a bit. I’d like to try something new and mostly like to just carve and just have fun riding directionally. Tighter curves at slower speeds and faster.
@@suprafreak1000 give it a try and if it works for you don’t let others tell you no. IMO those angles will be more conducive to a surf-style riding experience but will not be optimal for carving. But it doesn’t mean you can’t carve in those angles.
@@rcassassin8592thanks for this info! Been working with 21/6 for a good 3 or so full days and have been liking it so far ! Might mess around and try the 30/9 and just see like you said. I definitely notice the surf like feel at 21/6 for whatever it’s worth at this point. Grew up surfing. So will continue to mess around. Thank you very much!
In Asia, lots of riders love posi posi position with really stiff deck. It looks like alpine position but with a regular board. They do crazy tricks and focus on true deep carve. The way you need to ride with more than 40 angles is different. You need to use angulation more than upper body rotation. Japanese and Koreans are big fan of the position.
More of this! We alpine carve in hard boots at 55 angles. When I’m not soft booting. Thanks for the analysis 🤙
I started riding duck, but have been getting gradually more positive over the years. I now ride +23 +18 and find it's just fun for carving and steeps. This has inspired me to experiment some more! I grew up surfing rather than snowboarding, where a front-on (aka positive) stance is preferred to open up the shoulders for turns and improve flow, so find the positive angles give a more surfy feel to snowboarding too, which I enjoy!
I'm positive +21/+6, it's more comfortable for my knees. I started like many in duck +15/-12, then quickly +15/-9, +18/-6.... until now. I think that's the beauty of snowboarding compared to skiing (I don't know how to ski 🤣🤣) but the diversity of board stance angles is fantastic, that's why i love snowboard 😊
That’s amazing! Snowboarding keep you free to try new things.
@@SnowboardProCamp I'm also a directional rider most of the time. +24/+6 ... given mlandsl's comment below though, I may give +24/+12 a try this season
Also on +21/+6
+21 +6 is about where I ride. Really good directional control but not too excessive! Only thing I'll add is if you ride centered, you'll want to scoot back just a bit since you've now rotated both balls of your foot just a bit over center.
Would be interesting to combine this all with an asym board built around positive foot angles. Adjust where the sidecut starts on each board to essentially center you.
Oh and forward lean!
Older rider here. I have an uncommon stance, but it works for me and my lead knee. Front +27 / Rear 0 to -3. Enjoy the holidays, and keep riding into the new year! #oldguysrule
I bet that feels real good on your knees. I ride +18/-3.
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This year is my 40th year snowboarding. I’ve seen everything. Late 90’s, maybe early 00’s I had a Rossi GS race board and plates I would break out for a handful of runs first thing. That board was a tank. 45 or more on both feet, narrow as hell. Scary as all get out at slow and medium speeds. As soon as your eyes were watering you were locked in and trenching. That’s as close to skiing as I’ve ever come. +27 +9 with some variation depending on the board anymore. Still can dig a trench and revert out when needed. I’ll keep an eye out for ya at PC this year.
I still have my f2 asym beamer with plates . Ols school.
So the logic of the +/+ is so that you can collapse your back knee forward into the front knee, which enables the deep vitelli turns/euro carves. Downside is you lose leverage during ollies and switching means going properly backwards. I find that once you internalize the collapsed knee one can go back to +/- and still collapse knee and get in some really deep carves.
I used to watch you a lot Kevin during my early days. It’s really interesting to see things that are normal to me now can be novel to you. There’s no one way to grow in snowboarding and that’s the beauty of it.
Thank you for instilling the love of snowboarding in me, and merry Christmas!
I am going to try 27/12 next time I go riding. I hope what you are saying is true, that I can learn a few techniques easier +/+, then take them back to my normal +15/-12 stance that I normally ride.
@@lukejuras8024 Everyone's different, but I hope it works for you. Maybe after you figure out certain techniques, consider dialing back incrementally. After 27/12, try 21/-12 before 15/-12. I'm currently at 21/-12, down from 30/-12. I've realized at 15/-12 I give up on a lot of control I came to trust on. I rely on the angle of the front foot for certain speed checks and emergency breaks on the big mountain lines - and that's more important to me than other things +15 at the front can give me.
Let me know! Good luck!
"Collapsing" the back knee into the front knee will render you much less able to absorb bumps and it's a less string and stable position. The knees should stay separate.
@@burakurgancoglu6908 This has been amazing! I am carving steep blues that I never dreamed of carving, getting low on heel carves and feeling like they really lock, jamming to a completely different tune... Still dialing in the details, but 30/15 has been a game changer for me.
@@lukejuras8024 Haha awesome to hear that, thanks for getting back to me! Now it's time to switch to a directional carving-focused board. My favourite would be Korua Shapes.
I've been riding with angles +30 +12 (regular) for many years. I rode an alpine board with more angles and when I realized that an alpine board does not provide as many opportunities as a regular one, I started using regular boards with these angles, since I mostly do carving anyway. The riding technique is different, but the speed control is no less if you know the technique. It's fun, but not suitable for a park.
I used to feel very unstable in duckstance untill i switched to posi posi, never felt better, MUCH more control and really really happy.
I learned +45 +40 on alpine board, then went to some "V-Turn / euro carve on way too long, stiff and catchy full camber freeride board" and rode it +45 +35 for a decade. I can tell it was a pretty steep learning curve at first. It was more like riding an oversized skwal than a snowboard : very sketchy, and so very engaged (landing jumps like that is something...), but after a while it became a continuous fulfilling blast. I had to stop riding, and after 2 decades I'm back into it. Now I'm about 50 and got the luck to spend about as much time as I want in Swiss Alpes, so I'm considering getting in a way more playful and mellow ride, learning stuff I almost never tried like butters and switch, yet going duck is the crazy weird stance to me... XD
Believe it or not I learned from the famous Kevin Delaney. He taught us to go positive,positive. This help in learning to first carve. Today I ride a positive 30 on the front and 15 on the rear. What ever will work for ya!
Running a 42/42 on my Alpine board, still soft boots and regular bindings instead of the ski boots and base plates. It gives such an amazing tuck but since it's hard to find angled risers for regular bindings to get the angle for your back foot, I stacked three insoles into a wedge and placed them inside my boot. It gives the additional pressure you need for the back of your board when you lean that far forward, but the speed and lean you get in your turns is completely insane.
Not sure why you say “ski boots”. On alpine we use hard snowboard boots, Deeluxe, UPZ… some folks have used literally ski boots on the alpine plate bindings, but bootout was common problem since the base is so long
Really fun video to think about more stances! I’d be interested to see some of the less extreme angles switch if you do another similar video.
Alpine snowboarder with snowboard hardboots here. I run 60-65 front and 45-50 back. Its incredibly natural stance once you get used to it, although it is a carving only stance. But on softboots you dont have lateral pressure and your calves cannot work properly. Now, with some very hard snow softboots you could lay very nice carving.
During the 90's there were some bindings with a third strap catching the shin (mine were Burton Torque). It was a bit softer than harboots but still greater in such stances than 2 straps bindings. No company does such bindings nowadays. :/
Im starting to think kevin is listening in on my conversations. I was literally talking with some shop guys about this on Thursday. Apparently its good for locking edges in and getting power to the board.
The only reason to increase angles is to reduce or eliminate toe & heel drag. Once you have moved angles to the point where your toes and heels no longer line up over edge, you have lost the ability to pressure either edge effectively. Racers only run high angles, because the narrowness of the boards dictate it. Narrow boards are much faster edge to edge, hence narrow boards for slalom and GS. One of the reasons it became so difficult at the higher angles was, you fell out of the range of your “high back”. The lower leg movement was lateral as opposed to for & aft. In addition, soft boots don’t give you the lateral support you would need to ride such high angles, whereas an alpine set up with plastic/race boots would.
Very Cool, fun to watch!
This is the correct explanation. Well preached!
+42/+21 over here for a few years now. It happened gradually and my knees ended up thanking me for some weird reason. I do a lot of tight tree runs and bumps so maybe double-posi suits that sort of thing. I really didn't start getting comfortable riding switch UNTIL I switched to double-posi; now switch front 3s are effortless but regular 3s take a lot more concentration.
Been running +18 front foot and 0 on back for years now and it’s been a keeper
I’ve just set mine up like this. Am flying to France tomorrow. Will see how the new angles feel
@@neargrog685 Give us an update
Yup!! Bridge welder for 17yrs!! Three years ago detached bicep. That was awful. This past May I had back surgery on L4 L5! I refuse to give up 😂. I ride nothing but posi posi these days. Keeps me square down the mountain with minimum wear on the back. I rock a set of FLOW bindings, back foot set pretty loose so way easier to pull the latch. It’s never failed me yet. I still can wear the kids out though!! +21 +3
Wow...I've always wondered about this! Thanks for doing this experiment for us Kevin. Your live feedback on the different angles is super helpful!!!
My snowboard stance mimics my skateboard stance (when I cruise around) which'll usually be 20-30 (front) and 0-10 (back). I recently switch to a more positive stance on both feet, although it does feel a little odd at first, I find I can drive my carves much better
That 45/45 does not look fun XD
That's what my intent is to do this year, try and replicate a more skateboarding and natural stance. Probably similar to yourself, 20/30 and 0
Ive been rocking Front +9 Rear -3 for a season and love it. Little Marcus Kleveland recommendation on one of his TH-cam video's
Awesome! Marcus Kleveland is a legend!
I went +16 +6 and felt like i was a pretzel and couldn't stand or unbuckle my bindings after I fell. I feel like you can really do damage to your Knees in Stances like that. Just seems like a sure fire way to get hurt even if you are pro.
I like to longboard a lot in the summers and my stance is very positive on both feet. I want to try that out this winter to see if it works better for me. I feel like I have better control when using the side of my foot compared to my toes.
I used to long board alot, I switched to positive stance last year and it was amazing. If you're just directional cruising, not hitting park or going switch, it's amazing
Perfect Video before my Skitrip in a few days. I was going to try those stances on my boards, couse saw all the Japanese carving guys using theese stances
Reminds me of a surf board style. Also allows your body to be fully aligned and over the board.
It is a cool feeling being more aligned
After years in duck stance I saw yor video and decided to try posi posi. Yesterday I had my first ride using +36/+18. What a discover! Now I have to try almost all the suggestion found in the comments. Thank you for sharing and thanks to all.
Your +21 0 is my standard powder stance, groomers are normally +27 +6, high speed groomers are +30 +12. I haven’t got to the crazy downhill race angles in the +45 +45 range. Your reaction to each change is very familiar to my experience with each stance adjustment.
I think that you should try +12 in the back foot and +27 in the front foot then you could try going to +15 +30
Looking steezy at +21-0. 💪
Those angles were feeling good! Might be the new go to for non park days
@@SnowboardProCamp That was my stance from 2011-2015 til I had to quit riding for quite a few years. Back at it finally. Think I'll try going further posi this season.
Great experiment. Is Yani filming you this year?
try a alpin board and hard boots , i am boarding for 35 years now with +54 and +45 on a Swoard Board, its a different feeling ...but we started in the early days...Softboots were not designed yet, later i bought myself a Burton Asym Air with a 3 Strap binding but i went back to Hardboots, have a good one, greetings from Austria
I used to ride a hardboot snowboard with a +45 +45 stance. No skier could keep up with me. Even managed to ride switch as well at some point, although that definitely took some practice 😂
Wow 😮
Mhh learned switch after first time on piste riding snowboard. 😂 Some broken bones after (broke my thumb on fullspeed second time on piste - other finger while trying to carve in pow catching edge) on the third day I treat these weird boards - ride my first rails 😂 (failed at the second) doing a lot of silly jumps to get feeling for airtime landing position :-) +15 - 15 +15 +-0 but everybody was impressed can't believe that I am new rider 😂😂 now I wait for snow. I think I am ready for xgames or something 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
As i got older and quit hitting park stuff and switch, going to a positive stance really made me enjoy carving and cruising alot more 😊
I ride goofy and given that I just got back into boarding as of last season, I’m still trying to get my switch down so I ride +12 in the front and -12 in the back.
Good stance for switch!
I'd like to try a few stances but I'm so lazy when it comes to getting the screwdriver out and adjusting everything haha
I learned to ride with +45 on the front foot and 0 on the back foot, that's how almost everything was back in 1989-90. I now ride a full forward stance with at least +25 on both feet on anything because I ride hardboots exclusively now.
I've just swapped from duck stance to posi/posi 45..... Love it.
Such a cool video… Fun to watch Kevin 😅 I started riding +21 , -6 with Jones Stratos. I’ll definitely try back foot 0 as well…
How did the zero back foot go?
I started out at 0/0 and found that it was a good start, as that's actually how I walk (feet straight/no angles). Last month at Big White, I had it at +9/-9 and it felt weird but ridable. Changed the rear to 0 and noticed a big difference and more confident on my part when it comes to turns and riding cat tracks. Gonna experiment more when I go to Brian Head in a few weeks. Maybe +9/-3 then +15/0 then -3 and see how that feels. All in all, for me, my back foot needs to be at 0 or at the most, -9 if I don't want to lose my personal confidence.
Fun concept. I think it would have been better if you had a consistent section that you were carving on with a side hit or two that you normally boosted off of. For your next one I think you should start with maybe 21/-9 or similar spread and then rotate the rear angle to positive in 6 degree chunks. I rode 18/6 and 15/3 for many years before trying both of those with -6 in the rear. I am now riding 21/-3 and have played around with 21/9. (This video has motivated me to think about 21/3 for freestyle.)
Nice video! You should always keep some 10-15 degrees or so between your feet. Just as when you ride a duckstance. Personally I've been riding hardboots on stiff carving boards and alpine racing boards for the last thirty of my forty years of snowboarding. Regarding stance angles I'm still playing around with them but I keep coming back to some 56-57 degrees on the front foot and 44-47 degrees for the back foot on my Swoard EC5. I also ride a narrower Super G board, with higher angles sometimes. The only drawback of going posi,posi I can think of is being hampered in the fakie department. The more forward your stance, the harder it gets to ride backwards or do anything other than just carving. However, the carving only gets better. Good luck on your stance angle journey. Go even further and get yourself a stiffer board and you'll be able to crank out some serious carving. Even on soft boots. Take a look at the F2 Eliminator for example (there are many others like it, basically look for BX boards)
my directional stance is +18 +12. i felt great once i got used to riding it. I think of it more as a long boarding versus 'park' duck stance. Its an old school stance thats making its comeback.
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You should do a video doing the same thing but with stance length/ position
I’m +21 front, -12 in the back and here I thought my stance was bizarre. 😂 Like others have mentioned, the +21 feels better on my knee.
have you tried reducing back foot to something like -3 to see how well it works for you?
@@BeakersBro I have not. Moved to +18 today in the front and want to play around with back foot next week. Might come done to -9 or -6.
I like a positive stance, but i find it overall more fatiging if i try to do it all day also my knees feel tweaked out. I can see how it's used in racing but not for just a day having fun on the mountain. Generally I don't like like I have as much contorl on my back foot unless I put in a lot more effort.
Interesting! I haven’t tried yet for long periods
@@SnowboardProCamp You should. It might also just be tiring because it's using new/different muscles.
Now that you've experienced a race stance, you should do another video of you racing a skier. Just find a run that doesn't have flats because we want to see a snowboarder have a good chance at winning for a change.
Only person I’ve ever seen do a stance video like this. Im forsure changing to 0 + 16.
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Daaang this video was perfect to find. I'm an ex skateboarder now mountainbiker and now trying snowboarding for the first time at age 41. I've been thinking about these settings and not sure what to do.
The only thing you missed was reversing your direction with these stances. We still have questions! You'll have to make this video again 😅
Like other comments: In the 90s posi posi was usual. After some iterations I rode my alpine/race board with +60/+45. But my main focus was carving. 😊
I ride Front +6 Rear -6 a bit weird but I'm practicing switch
I go pos/pos and setback about 1-1.5" from centre on pow days. 21 front, 3-6 on back. Normally ride +21/-3
Genuinely, what’s crazy about +21 +0 ? That’s a standard free ride
Its good to mix it up. I learned on posi posi back in the 90's. Now i can carve like a beast with duck stance.
I got the positive stance for 10years(+39 , +27 stance : 64cm) it is awesome to make the turn of deep carving.
I also have experience for duck stance for 15 years.
I was just in Park City last week, so cool. I ride 7 and 0 right now
Been stuck on +18 front and -6 back for a while... might try +21 -0
What i found is that riding posi really helps when the ski lift is a button, other wise that lift is really unconfortable.
I do 36 and 6 or 12 in the rear like the one you tried before the 45 in both....ive been tellin people its great thank you for reaffirming that!!!!
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U look a lot more solid as soon as you went posi posi
Thanks! Think I’m gonna keep it
Agreed. I'm a hard booter though.
@@sleepysteam6541 hard or soft posi better carving if you’re taking jumps and ramps then for me at least I do -3 back leg
Any thoughts on the stance width depending on duck vs posi posi?
I feel like the more posi posi the angle the more narrow you should go. I think I could have been more narrow toward the end
@@SnowboardProCamp Thanks, merry Christmas! 🎅
I saw you stuff the screwdriver in your pocket. Please tell me you did not go down the hill like that. A Phillips driver to the liver is kinda game over.
if u want more control in stance +45 +45, u have to move bindings closer to each other
i played with my stance years ago and found with the higher angles I had to put my feet closer together
Those aren’t crazy crazy stances, both feet positive is pretty common in carving stances, it’s becoming a trend in Asia where everyone now tries to learn carving and touching the snow, and they usually use snow boards brands like Gray, BC-stream or Ogasaka, tho none is available in the US
Kessler as well! Kessler x carver is a wear on of a board!
Hi Kevin, so did you find your new stance here? I missed a little bit a conclusion in the end, what your favorite stance is
I was waiting for 90/90 skwal board style 🤣
I met a slalomer years ago who used 43-35 as a daily stance and hard boots x)
In Korea, forward stance is very popular
Hey Kevin, great vid! What one would you recommend for a beginner/ intermediate rider that’s looking to improve turning. I personally don’t like switch very much and don’t see myself with a big future in the park, I’ve done duck my entire career snowboarding and i’m looking for a stance that could help me improve. I’d really appreciate some advice because man you’re a stud at boarding lol😂
Experiment! Go through a gradual version of this video: from +15 -15 to +18 -9 to +18 -3. I would say wait until you're solidly intermediate until rocking posi posi, but if you want to run it for a few runs then more power to you
I ride +15 / -15. It’s a pretty balanced position for switch/ normal carving. But jumps and landings are not very comfortable for me. Thx. I will try + 21 / -6 .
I am goofy and used to go up to +45/+25 before now after 25 years of snowboarding with my Custom X +28/+14 feel comfy for aggressive turns and speed
You should look at how alpine snowborders carve, to adjust how you put pressure on edges 21/3 27/6 works ok for me so far :)
Anyone have any suggestions for finding a perfect stance? I’ve been experimenting for a couple years now and still can’t get completely comfortable. I usually ride positive front and negative rear but I’m not sure what degrees of angle I should shoot for.
Try 0 at the back. I was a fan!
There is no perfect stance for everyone. Stances are personal and related to our body. Only way to find yours is to experiment. Remember that it can take few days before you get use to a stance.
I've seen riders from Asia that do +45/+45 that do that for deep carves
i find when i skate i generally have a possi stance and tried it on my snowboard and i am never looking back.
On 45-45 that’s racing stance made to go and stay down the fall line not across the fall line!
I really wish you had ridden switch on each of these, that would have been interesting !
Isn't that more depending on body length?
I started riding on a raceboard back in de 90’s, with hard boots. Had a very very race stance. And since I’ve learned it thay way, I have never tried to do a duck stance actually. Also because of my size 46 (eu), I just can’t do a 0 stance. I do want to try duck next time, but to me that is so unnatural to me.
if I use a freeride board that is 10 cm shorter than it should be, will it affect me?
You’ll probably have less stability when riding with speed and you’ll have more trouble stopping and slowing down because you have less edge
@@SnowboardProCamp Burton freeride 51 for free style and i dont going fast. I am beginer
What do you think of those clew bindings
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+27 and -3 is my go to!!!
For positive positive angles, use a open shoulder stance, it's way better ,because your hips are way more upen.
also you use way more of your hips for turns.
Are you trying these angles due to a comment you saw ? Cause i've posted these like 2 years back maybe... Crazy to carve tbh
This was definitely a comment driven video!
Excellent, hope you like the 45 in front. I disliked every minute of it at first and now my carving is way above what I could do with duck stance.
Love your vids btw, when I started watching your channel with TJ back in the days I was an average advanced and now I am *almost* a snowboard instructor ❤ (missing my final exam)
Ryan (knapton), TJ and you gave me good tips leading to that success, so thank you I guess. Stay rad 🤙
I'm riding since years +39 front and +21 rear. Now, I'll try duck stance for the first time.
I had a dream that my buddy was running 55 83
If that's front/back... Woah. I keep giggling thinking about it either way
here's my weirdest stance, I think I've got most people beat:
I borrowed a board from my buddy after my old one broke a couple days before, completely forgetting that he is goofy and I am regular. I ended up riding and entire day after driving 2 hours to the mountain with a -9, -12 stance. He had the original stance as positive positive. lets just say my ankles did not enjoy the twisting from me turning to face downwards while my feet were aimed up the mountain.
Got my first board in goofy. I didn't know anything about 😂 rode goofy, regular... (maybe I switched booth pedals while experiments with the stance😂) With boots from motocross 😅 but I learned to ride switch in this session. Later on this day I got a new board regular and snowboard boots😅
Ive been riding +30 +15 for a while. I only carve on groomed slope, no jump or park, sometimes if i feel like doing some powder or tree run, i use another board and lower the stance to +21 +6. My bindings are at 30 max, ive tried 36 24 but it felt like i was missing my highback. Since last year i also ride a Donek with 29.5 cm waist (i have 13US boots) so i think going to much forward it will become harder to turn it.
Been riding +30 +15 since the 90s. Tried less of an angle a couple times recently but the outside edge of my lead foot hurt like heck. I’m so used to aggressive angles that I’m trying to turn my foot when I ride a lesser angle. Not really sure how to come back from that.
Would you recommend 21/6 for a good all resort riding stance for all day stuff? Thinking of switching to that or 30/9 to try. I really like to just do fun slow and faster carving and just flowing if you will.
This is a video where nobody would have complained if you made it twice as long and tried more angles.
Considering how much powder you ride, I am shocked this was your first time trying a neutral backfoot stance.
+90 and -90 is crazy try it out😂
The ultimate switch setup 😂
@@Dc_7o2 😂
For me the best angles are 9 + in the back foot and 20 + in the front foot. You can go extremely fast, great carving and also control on the jumps . I being snowboarding for more than 25 years .
I’ve been seeing either 21/6 or 30/9 a lot. Do you recommend one or the other to try first?