I feel emotionally burned out and worry re my spinal health. And OA and gerd and terrified of the future but due to adhd I either process ridiculous amounts of info but then don’t process others so I actually don’t appear to be burned out , I’m not sleeping I’m hyper intellectually but burned out with the system that is supposed to help
@@lc6450 it’s the way I feel too. I’m sorry you feel that way too. I think the northeast is backwards re mh on working class autistics. They just don’t get that the actual system makes us sick. I’ve got one more pip I’m hoping they will just leave me in peace for 10 years at least. I’ve had 2 year assessments or fails for 18 years with them. 14 I was failed 2 I got.. the actual phone calls needing support to deal with the actual services is what roles me and being passed around to endless people. We’ve had fibre put in the village today they been buzzing my doorbell when I’m upstairs . Asking about the neighbours cars to move them even when I don’t drive3 times and I said ring 88&86 the other lass is at work . And my neighbours got really bad RA atm. Been doing a fridge maintain type clean and couldn’t get the glass to go in that’s done my back in. Supposed to be getting a kitchen in as my tap is so old they can’t get the parts. But that in next 2-8 weeks and takes a week plus’s it’s everything they are doing . That means finding some place to put 11 seriously full cupboards some place for a week. I recon that will be a microwave meal and salad week and having a Chinese 🤣🤣 Ive order loads of Temus stuff and gadgets. But it’s mostly storage keep it tidy stuff they had a sale on if storage thickened storage zip bags for £2.47 reduced from 12.99 they stack up and go on top of stuff and look tidy. I’m waiting on a decent bungalow to move into. So I’ll need stuff like that to put my stuff , had loads if vouchers and used the lot 🤣🤣 . I’ve got shrink on the 4th, someone saying they are doing a repair but not saying what it is on the 5th, the podiatrist in the 6th , the mould guy coming out to inspect the mould problem on the 7th, the social services on the 10th and the dentist in the 14th. I hate appointments. Pips assessments due anytime between July n October. Honestly I just deal with it. Just want . A holiday which I haven’t had since 1997 seriously, doesn’t have to be abroad. 🤣🤣
I love how the fix to this is to take a sabbatical and re-align yourself...something a vast majority of us can't ever afford to do. It's just not a plausible fix in reality.
@@Taku1Tqkus2 that's definitely not true if you work hourly. Bosses want to avoid overtime at all cost. Also, it's a choice for you, every day, if you go to work or not. You aren't a slave. Or try becoming a "person in power" yourself and be the boss you would want to have.
If you're living paycheck to paycheck, that's your own fault. People taking extended time off is quite common outside the US. Live in a cheaper house / city. Drive a cheaper car. Cook your own meals instead of going to restaurants. The average global income is like $10k ish per year. We Americans think we have to spend $50k-$100k per year to be comfortable, and we just don't. If you're working that hard just to be miserable, what's the point? And it's not like time off has to be traveling the world, staying at 5-star hotels. It IS possible to have cheap time off.
It's absolutely true that most people aren't able to take a sabbatical; she was just speaking from her own experience. Even if you don't have the luxury of being able to take one, it's worth noting you you may still be able to apply the strategies she mentions: cultivate relationships outside of work, remember to do simple things that bring you joy (e.g. Guitar Hero), move your body regularly, etc.
I'm pretty sure we live in an age and society...that creates burnout. Our lifestyles are so unnatural and nonstop. The large majority also deal with real financial stress just trying to survive and get to work and pay for childcare. Then there's all the greed and corruption that dictates and shapes important social structures like access to medicine and education. Our entire species is burned out.
....I dont think it's created. It's symptom of lying to oneself. And affluent Western nations are champions of deceit, cowardice and self promoting propaganda...
I would go as far as to argue that those that don’t experience burnout are the real issue. They are the reason we keep this charade called ‘modern civilisation’ going
@@MadsNordholm I am more concerned with the actual definition of "burn-out" and the causes. Nobody is claiming it doesn't exist - even if it's referred to under a different name. It was referred to by the ancient Greeks and in the Stoic traditions as melancholy. The Indigenous people of Australia also made references to it in their Dream Time stories. Sports people also show signs of "burn-out" sometimes called fatigue or a lack of inspiration to battle on in contests. In affluent Western Nations it is common for "burn-out" to be exploited by the Ruling class and also the intellectual class - an excuse for facing some home truths. After all it's much easier to blame an affliction or something else rather than looking in the mirror - one of the hardest things to do. Just my opinion of course......
@@OsvaldoBayerista But the USA is not a Capitalist system. It's a corrupt tyrannical Corpocracy with expansionist imperialist tentacles that has invaded at least 38 countries since the end of WW2 resulting in about 23 million deaths - mainly civilian deaths. The 20th century has seen the emergence of 3 major forms of fascism: Bolshevism, Nazism and Corporatism. Were you paying attention as to who was calling the shots during the Pandemic? Who was bailed out? Who was looked after? Who made the profits? Why there are so many corporatised elitist puppets dangling in Washington? There has been shift away from US Hegemony over the past decade or two. It has accelerated over the past 5 years. US Petro-Dollar will be dead soon. There are economic and strategic alliances being formed across the planet that dont include the toxic US master-servant model that was developed by the British during their global reign of terrorism on the high seas...... One of The most difficult things to do is to look in the mirror and make honest judgements.
As someone born in the US, but living the last 4 years in the Netherlands - it's very interesting to see how differently the subject of burnout is addressed in each country. In the US, the best burnout treatment most people can hope for is a compassionate boss that will help prioritize your mental health by making small, temporary adjustments to your workload. In the Netherlands, you're able to take up to two years off with a government mandated 70% minimum of your pay to allow you to focus on your mental health and truly treat your symptoms. And many companies will even add additional pay up to 100% of your salary. And yes, we do pay high taxes for the privilege of prioritizing mental health, other healthcare, transportation, education, etc - but in my mind - it's absolutely worth every penny to know that if and when I need help, I'm able to seek it - regardless of pre-existing conditions or financial pressures. Not trying to push this structure on anyone else, just some food for thought for those that might share a similar vision for a balanced and secure human existence.
I've considered relocating from the USA because of the social structure and lack of prioritization of human rights ... But we can barely afford to pay the bills and I'm deeply in debt due to a life changing injury to my neck. We are enslaved to this broken system. I dream of a world where we don't allow Profits and Currency to undermine social institutions. A resource based economic system. It's not a lack of resources...but a lack of morality
Wow, that system in the Netherlands sounds amazing! I’m in the UK, and that sounds like such a good way to reset. I’ve been at the point of burnout for over 2.5 years now… a fifth of my department at work got made redundant in 2020 including my closest colleague, which was very upsetting (leading to increased workload for those remaining), and in the next year we lost three more really great people through their own choice to leave, all of whom made the experience of working there better, so their leaving has been a real detriment. We’ve since hired a few more people - some of them good, but notably the head of department and also my line manager are… not good, to say the least (my old manager is still there but I don’t report to him anymore after some restructuring, which is a shame… though I do still get to work with him a little bit). Morale is terrible, the dept head is a manipulative tyrant who treats us like children and makes every interaction something to dread, and my line manager drains the interest and enjoyment out of everything while serving purely as a slow down and obstacle to getting anything done. Everything is antagonistic and feels futile, and I’m not drawing any sense of fulfilment or satisfaction from my work anymore. Short of those two people leaving who are so instrumental in the way the team is run and managed, I don’t see any way for it to be salvaged for me… problem with burnout is it’s also difficult to get the mental energy and motivation together to update your CV and do the whole exhausting job-hunting thing, even though I know it’s essentially the only way to make things better! The idea of an extended time where I’m still getting enough money coming in to pay the mortgage and living costs, but don’t have to keep getting ground down by everything at work so I can try and muster the energy and actions required to get a new job, is very appealing.
I wish I could move literally anywhere that treats its citizens better than the USA, but if you're someone who has no money, no work experience that qualifies you for a high demand job, no self employment, and experiences disabilities that mean you need some social support even if you're working... pretty much no country will allow you to immigrate there. Not to mention the double-bind of it being difficult to find work if you're not in the country you're looking at, but not able to get a work visa unless you have a job. As a globe, we make it really difficult for people to just pack up and move somewhere else if they don't like the country they were born in. I'm happy for you that you were able to leave.
Sadly, I think the Netherlands is more of an outlier than I had hoped. I have typically considered the US to be bottom of the barrel among industrialized nations with regard to employment and mental health issues, and it is. But following neurodivergent channels has made me realize that national health care does not result in particularly good or affordable mental health care in many countries. Adult autism and ADHD support is heavily privatized in many places. And obtaining meds if you have ADHD is actually even harder in a lot of places. One neurodivergent vlogger I follow is from the Netherlands, and I have gathered that things are better there. I’m not sure from news reports where things are going politically though. One thing is clear to me: we are reaching the end game with regard to unchecked global capitalism. The absolute worst export the US has given to the world is the toxic idea that capitalism is self-regulating and needs no other inputs or controls.
This isn't a clinical problem, it's a perfectly natural reaction to American businesses grasp on us. We are constantly driven to work ourselves to death with no hope of real growth. We fulfill other men's dreams and ours die in the process.
If I were in a different culture or economic system, I would likely still endure burnout. That is because I am neurodivergent, which has a more intense and regular form of burnout. Communist countries, for instance, do not yet accommodate neurodivergence.
And to top it off, the burnt out party is usually Pune for being burnt out rather than helped in any way by their employer. It was the case for me anyway.
As someone with ADHD + sensory processing sensitivity I feel like I walk around with this dirty secret that I've been burned out every waking moment of my life and no amount of vacation can ever remedy it.
Yeah, likewise. Additionaly, currently i´m at uni + working part time highly intensive and physical labour till late evening.60,70 hours per week in total. Everyday i wake up feeling like a lorry drove over me. It´s not even burn out, but it isn´t depression. Maybe there is no medical term for what we feel. And people ask me how i am, why i´m tired. Jeez, give me a break...
I felt this. Being aware of it doesn’t solve anything neither even if it’s “aware now to find solutions”. You just get use to it and do what you can and got to do. Shit is ridiculous, I don’t plan on living like this forever
I ended up in the hospital because of burnout. I called it a nervous breakdown, but my shrink said I was suffering from emotional and physical exhaustion. I did recover eventually. It was a long road. I had to learn how to take care of myself. I don't run myself ragged anymore. I say no to people if I need too.
@@User98681 Sorry to hear that. I don't wish it on anyone. I was 25 at the time. I'm 66 now. I was in the hospital for 2 months. I was not working for another 2 months, but then I had to go back to work. My hands were still shaking. It took about a year for my hands to stop shaking. I was very nervous about looking for a new job, but I got one and it was the first step to me normalizing my life again. When I was 28 I accidently fell upon a medication a doctor had given me for headaches, but it turned my world from black and white to color after my shrink increased the dosage. I've been on it ever since. My recovery was one step at a time and it was important to take good care of myself. Life got better and better over time. One piece of advice for anyone with depression etc. is to stay away from drugs and alcohol. They really don't help you. I drank wine every night and I was definitely self-medicating. If I had to do it all over again, I would stay away from alcohol. Fortunately, I don't have an addictive personality so when I retired, I just didn't want a glass of wine every night and I stopped. All my best to you. Be good to yourself, stay in therapy if you need it, if you are on medication and it is helping keep taking it, take one step at a time, and leave the past behind you as much as you are able to. Counting my blessings every day really helps too.
Snickers in special education teacher. I actually started as a computer science major and dropped it because despite doing OK my eyes were gonna fall out. And then I chose a more burnout of a career 😅
I suffered clinical burnout, severe clinical depression and diagnosable adrenal fatigue from my job. Brought on by a toxic boss, working in a pressure cooker, and a hostile work environment. Coupled with a personal loss, and a work injury that resulted in severe chronic pain, that I had to learn how to absorb/sit in the pain because nothing worked to relieve it. I ended up struggling for another year, concentrated on eliminating my monthly outflow of cash (bills), paid off credit cards and cancelled them. And saved as much as I could. I was able to quit work for two months and then found a part time job. I would ride my motorcycle almost daily. Sleep as long as I wanted and just sit in my hammock and watch the birds for hours. It was bare bones living but I somewhat healed my body, mind and soul. That was 3 years ago. I still struggle when I feel the least bit stressed. It is a long road to recovery, of which I really don't know if I will ever completely recover from. I now try to live the most peaceful, calm, drama-free life I can. I have walked away from people and jobs to maintain my peace and contentment. Your mental health, people is one of your most precious resources.
@@mamoon7619I am currently working in manufacturing on an off shift. My supervisor is exceptional. It's very laid back and no top brass around, so it's fairly quiet. I punch a clock and when i walk out the door, the work stays at work. I have a 3-year plan that I am executing. Looking to purchase another motorcycle and eliminate all my remaining debt. I then plan to work part time.
It’s not even “quiet quitting” It’s asking work to simply do what is required of them. Not have to work extra hours without proper pay, more time off, etc. these things should be a given but media makes it out to be like we are “quitting”
Only those in higher paying careers or those with a spouse who makes a lot of money can choose to go on sabbatical. Those of us who have struggled to build a career or are undereducated just have to suck it up when burnout happens.
I'm so burned out that I'm abandoning friendships in a desperate attempt to have more time for myself. I just don't have the time, energy or inclination to maintain them anymore, & the idea of someone wanting to hang out with me makes me irrationally angry to the point where I want to physically lash out. But people just expect so much. People at work want to hang out afterwards. People outside of work want to infringe upon my decompression time once work is over. People assume that my weekends are free for socialising, when I need them to recover enough energy to lather, rinse & repeat the next week. Honestly, if I never interacted in-person with another human being in my life, it would be too fucking soon.
I’ve been lucky enough to take some sabbatical for the past months. First thing I did was to move to another country where I don’t know anybody. I’ve been on almost zero interaction for the past 4 months, I only use my voice to order at cafes, or to say hi/bye to the cashier and bus driver. Best months I’ve ever had in my entire life. No pointless coffee brake small talks, no draining overwhelming family reunions, etc. Just my own days to spend however I want. Even not having to regularly decline invitations is a blessing. I loath having to go back to this constant invasion of my personal space.
Exactly how I feel. You've described it perfectly. I can't even concentrate anymore on anything and don't have the enthusiasm for a thing. I avoid everything as much as I can. The cats are the only creatures I love and want around me. I'm fed up with everything. How much longer is this life gonna take... I'm only 39 and a thought of being a slave for another 10, 20, 30 years or so, makes me even less motivated for anything. And people are so boring. Nothing interests me anymore. All I hear is boring and all I see is wrong. I hate to be here...
The work environment really contributes. Micro-managers will criticize your one 'mistake' and overlook the 100 ways you do the job well. The boss has 'favourites' who get away with anything. People sense the toxicity and quit so their workload is dumped on the survivors. Salaries not keeping up with inflation Constant scheduling changes and workplace wants you available 24/7 and on short notice. Every day I go to work I wonder if this is the day where I just walk out.
Yes! Hard work used to be rewarded decades ago. Now you’re just rewarded with more work. I’m an older person who has seen management styles really go downhill! The lazy are rewarded. Hard work doesn’t pay off. 🤷♀️
As a fellow academic, i find it really very insulting that she said "oh i just took a sabbatical to fix my issues". Most people can't do that, and suggestions like that are utterly pointless. The burnout stems *from* an inability to stop working, an inability to control your circumstances, little to no reward for your work, and the apathy that comes with those things. This speaker is a professor, head of department (i.e. has been heavily rewarded for their work), and was able to take a sabbatical (i.e. has complete control of their workflow) and they have the audacity to pretend that this is any sort of solution for the vast majority of people? Further, while she does - very briefly - talk about organisations needing to change their approach to work, she spends most of her time talking about how *you* need to change *your* approach to work. Cause clearly, its the worker that's mostly at fault here. *You* haven't managed *your* workload effectively, *you* haven't taken time for *your* hobbies and interests, *you* identify too strongly with *your* work. Shifting blame and responsibility onto the worker and not the employer or the structural systems behind the work... Horrible attitude. Even worse that its held by a researcher in the field.
i agree! when psychologists or psychiatrists pathologize normal human emotions and blame everything on the individual, rather than the system that is servile to the rich and powerful … all it means is that we have commodified the disenfranchised members of society! when laws are passed to allow the billionaires to underpay workers and overcharge/gouge customers and pay no taxes themselves - we have become the new slaves i can’t stand it when these people blame the individual for their plight! it’s like they’re telling the poor to “shut up and be a nice, compliant, lowly slave” 🤢 yeah “sabbatical”! ha! just what IS sabbatical for minimum-wage earners?
@@Yakito666 Because I love kids. Loving parents are not immune to burnout. Your question is like "You injured your knee while you were jogging. Why did you go jogging?"
Being a [good] mother IS a F/T job. You're working harder than most people w a F/T office job, hell these days you're probably working harder than most of my laborers on a bricklaying crew.
@Yakito666 because of biology and math. If 2 people replace themselves w 1 person [by having only 1 child] the entire human race would cease to exist in a determinant amount of time. If 2 people replace themselves w 2 people the race is stagnant and will just take longer to die off. If 2 people replace themselves w 3 or more people the population grows and the human race continues to prosperity. Biology and math.
I just quit my job for being burnt out. I don't think I can work anymore. After quitting I feel so good and alive again. But cannot be without job much longer, gotta take care of my family.
@@sk8legendz I am at new job now. Restarting my career again. Career break gave me mental peace. I did lose my salary though, it's much lower than before. But mental peace is more valuable to me.
The problem is work and other people. I don’t like work and I don’t like other people. If I could just remove both of those things from my life, I would feel better.
Dont wish your present to be something else, accept it and start to understand how to deal with everyday things, just complaining about your job, your co workers or that your family isnt ideal is not going to take you anywhere. Start taking action.
Oh Jesus, you guys act like rich billionares haven’t extorted me for every dollar they can, and I just have wads of cash lying around to go get therapy and help.
@@harshbutt bud, the tendency of company owners today is to hire the worker for as little money as legally possible, give them so many hours they can’t reasonably go on vacation any time soon, then turn around and go on bi-weekly vacations in their private jet at the cost per trip of your entire yearly salary. While you struggle to put food in your fridge and pay the car loan at the same time.
Line cook here. Yep. We work 365 days a year. No vacation. No breaks during our shifts. We make food but rarely get to actually eat. It’s unrewarding. Hot. Humiliating. Exhausting. I’m constantly in a state of fatigue and soreness. Must be nice having a career that allows time off. In the kitchen it’s get over it and get back to work and keep working until you fall over from a heart attack. Which actually happened to another line cook that used to work with me. Just fell over dead. Sabbatical. Ha!
@@Ophelia11 I have to work to survive and I’ve already been doing this most of my life. Coupled with the fact that I have zero friends and haven’t been on a date, or had physical contact with a person who likes me, in eight years. It’ll probably lead me to an early grave. Yay capitalism.
For me personally, the talk I hear about burnout makes me angry. I got burnt out mainly from having to care for myself, literally from self care itself, like going to the doctors, cleaning, eating, exercising etc. while having unadressed health issues/disabilities. And the solution I hear to burnout is always caring for yourself better. Aaaagh. Like mate. That being so hard is what got me there in the first place.
@@kathrynroitz I mean, I was diagnosed with ADHD, but it's a bit more complicated, because I might be also autistic, and I kinda relate to the PDA type of autism.
@@Dimitris_Half I mean, it's a bit complicated. You can have people in your life but they don't understand you and don't support you in ways that help you. A lot of my social struggles have to do with the same thing that made everything difficult. I'm trans and gender dysphoria got me personally really bad. I personally got chronic stress from being on the wrong hormones, there being constant noise in my emotions and them feeling wrong, my sensations feeling wrong somehow, a general sense of just something being wrong. I was just too tired and overwhelmed and emotional to deal with people.
I have a lovely partner and friends, and a comfy home. I'm seriously burned out by being disabled (physically and cognitively). Being disabled in modern society practically guarantees some continuous form of burnout, particularly if you aren't wealthy.
As a former software engineer, the notion of "emotional burnout" resonates strongly with me. I experienced it in the final job of my career. (I retired early because of it.) If you've ever experienced sleep paralysis, that's what burnout felt like to me. When I would sit down at my computer to start working, my arms felt paralyzed; it took all of my will to lift my hands to the keyboard to start working. That was five years ago. Even today, the thought of putting together a resume and starting the interview process for another engineering job feels daunting and stress-inducing. Even worse, the experience was systemic; it left me unmotivated and apathetic toward all aspects of my life. It's a malaise that persists to this day. Prior to my last job, I always felt considerable passion for my work. This was such an unfortunate, unexpected end to my career.
Hi. I think I understand you. I am more fortunate. I still keep on going to work. Let’s say because I must. Just to survive. I wish you the best luck.❤
Yes to all of this, but the problem is that you don’t really think you’re burnt out until you hit a wall and you have nothing left. I found the best way to get past without was to ask myself who am I at my core and how can I bring, more of that to my day. That allowed me to take baby steps when I was burnt and then bigger steps as I became more energized.
There is no question I've hit clinical burnout. I even took a vacation/travel sabbatical of sorts a few months ago; about 5 weeks long which is much longer than most Americans would be able to do. It was great, but when I got back to the job it was almost as if I never left. Just as cynical, fuse just as short, motivation shot, stress level rocketed back up again. Been at this 15 years. For those who are feeling the same but only a couple years in, it doesn't always get better. Sometimes a total change is in order.
5 weeks are not enough. At least 3-4 month (or better a year) are needed to completely restore your nervous system. I know it's almost impossible in our current economic situation...
@@_Julia.K_ or two, a year in an abusive or less-than-supportive/accepting environment where you feel inferior will often times prolong this even though the nervous system has opportunity to get better, and may, it is very sensitive at this time. So, someone who is completely, or even repeatedly, assaulted/harmed/made-to-feel-unsafe-in-any-way again can easily revert back to incapacity, making recovery longer. This is why the current mechanism of our society doesn't work super well. It can, but I think truly, relationships and emotional wellbeing are the most advantageous thing to understand for long term success and change.
I just came back from the holidays on a very long stretch of vacation, and coming back was painful. Even now it literally causes me pain to be at my job. I get paid extremely well and can more than provide for my family, but at what cost? I have no life, no purpose other than my family, and I waste my evenings watching ever more TH-cam feeling tired but can't sleep. The sooner I sleep the quicker another miserable day comes.
i'm sorry 😭😭 but this highlights the inevitable hypocrisy of a subject like this. i get she's a psychologist and so she's working on what individuals can do to make themselves happier but the truth is, unless we change the physical conditions of our society burnout will not end. people are getting burned out because of constant exploitation. we can't just take a sabbatical! our bills won't get paid!
What an eye opener. I started a new job 9 months ago 'cause my old company downsized and I needed to make rent and since then my mental (and even physical) health went downhill real fast. This new job doesn't let me do what I do best, I provide almost no value, and I'm even doing something that I wasn't hired for. Some days there's literally zero work to do but I still feel the pressure to do something. Most people would say "oh cool you get paid for doing nothing" but the kind of stress and emotional drain coming from feeling useless and doing things wrong just because the company works a certain way it's eating me up from the inside. I've been sleeping either 2 hours or 12, snapping at friends and family and just generally dreading going into work at 9.
I can totally relate to not doing anything and feeling emotionally stressed by it. During the first year and a half of covid I sat at my desk and waited to hear from my supervisor or boss. No one ever engaged with me. I played hours of animal crossing. Eventually my supervisor one day told me "the work we are doing is above you. Just wait until we ask you to do something." It made me feel worthless. I worked on myself and then one day in June of 2021 restrictions were lifted and I was at full speed ahead - double speed even since we were now all working overtime to get things back up and running. But I wasn't prepped for it, I wasn't apart of these "larger conversations" and so I broke down a couple of weeks in and have been going that speed every since. Even changing jobs it just put me in a worse position mentally. Finally I got another new job a couple of months ago and I realized after a couple of weeks that I had been so burnt-out for years that coming into a nurturing place was foreign to me. Now I'm still working but I don't cry every night, I don't feel worthless and I finally think I can focus on me again. Just in time for my wedding!
I'm not sure if this description of 'depersonalisation' is accurate, especially in a mental health context. 'Depersonalisation' can refer to a disillusionment with the people around us, but in a psychological sense it refers specifcally to a dissociative sensation that is caused by prolonged heightened anxiety. I have Depersonalisation Derealisation Disorder and been chronically dissociated for over 7 years. I'm always keen to discuss and inform on it. I'm impressed by the rest of this video, but I just wanted to make sure this one qualm wasn't lost amongst all the other great points and advice.
I’m a mental health therapist and have been going non-stop since the pandemic. With burnout, I noticed a couple of days off here and there didn’t help. Restructuring my life so far has felt so reviving. I enjoy socializing again in my personal life! I decided to take break from doing therapy/my practice and work doing something non-therapy related in mental health. So far so good.
Im all these thing all the time for 15 years as a plumber. Hated it since day one but have bills to pay and mouths to feed. I figured I was just a weak asshole, shrugged it off and carried on. Every waking moment feels like a waste and I passively contemplate ending it all daily. I also figured that was just how everybody felt all the time because the culture at work is Macho and people never really talk about these things. Weird. Did a mindfullness meditation course and It was helpful but I still cant shake that nagging feeling that everything is completely futile, meaningless and that suffering is the rule rather than the exception. My curiosity keeps me alive so there's no real chance for self harm but If not for that I would have nipped life in the bud ages ago. I take virtually no joy in life 90% of the time and even when I'm not working I spend most of that time in fear of having to go back so even leisure time is wasted on work. Friday evening is the only time my mind feels free but by Saturday I'm already dreading Monday. What's the point of all this? I have made a great upper middle class lifestyle out of this but that comfort has seemingly no effect on my mindstate. Sometimes I feel moving into a tent in the woods and living a subsistence lifestyle would be less demeaning and stressful to my soul than this crushing modern lifestyle I can't seem to escape. There I go being weak again. Literally off to work after typing this.
feel your pain man. In my case, I had to focus on whats important to me. Friends and Family, without these 2 factors I would have been dead 8 years ago from burnout. Nothing seemed to matter, but Ive always thought of the image of my family and friends crying over me.
Got into a burn-out during the covid period. Working in a laboratory it really took a toll on me and my colleagues. Now 2,5 years later I’m still recovering.
I burned out, got laid off from work, employer made sure that I never got another job. Job search for more than 6 years itself created a chronic burnout which is beyond all definitions. It is a privilege to sit there and tell people what is the definition of burnout and what they should do. Let me add to their knowledge that there exists a next stage of burnout as well. It is when burnout persists for many years resulting in you becoming literally a dead person. You feed yourself the bare minimum, force yourself to only have the most basic life needs. You stop caring if you died the next moment, in-fact you develop such a wish. And funny thing is that it was done to me by such "academics" like herself.
I hear you. When you lack the control to address the burnout, it turns out there’s another level beyond what you thought was bad. I called myself burned out throughout 2019, and then every year after that was a new level of feeling helpless and angry and utterly becalmed. I’m starting to get some motivation back, finally, slowly. I hope you can have the same, friend.
Yeah, it makes me angry that when it comes to academic definitions, it's all just concerning work, when in reality, people can be burnt out from applying to jobs, from school, from being a carer for a family member, even from caring for their own health if they have chronic/many health issues
I think that everyone who worked through the whole pandemic, had to pick up all the responsibilities of the furloughed staff, then those positions were never hired back, and companies didn’t give pay increases… are all in a very advanced stage of burnout. I have been trying to set better boundaries at work, have told my boss that I cannot continue to work 55+ hours a week, and must have time for myself, but every week that I don’t put the extra time in, I’m under so much stress about incomplete work, that I can hardly enjoy my free time. I feel angry and exhausted all the time, and ineffective. I know I’d actually be better at work if I could actually have a normal workload and have “me” time after work… but nothing changes and I don’t know what to do. I’ve threatened to quit if I don’t get help and a raise. Crossing my fingers that they sit up and take notice.
Though I don’t work nearly as many hours as you, I can relate. Since covid started, I’ve been trying to do the work of more than one person, and there being no end (no new staff) in sight… the thing that really gets me is that I love my job when I actually have enough hours to do it, or the right number of staff. I hate feeling like I’m doing a half-assed rush job all the time, letting down the people I’m supposed to be working with (I’m in healthcare). I set limits on how many hours a week I work, but the stress of untended requests sits very heavily. 🙁
A healthier diet is what helped me with emotional burn out. Also taking a blood test to know what vitamins i was lacking on also helped. Eat healthy, get some sun, and stay hydrated!
I burned out and luckily was in a position to leave my job amicably, but unemployment is rough. Sitting around all day not doing anything is a mode you can very easily fall into, and in a way can burn you out even more. Stay active, physically and mentally. I've started doing that recently and it's really helped.
I’m beyond the burnout stage at work and I’m getting worried now. I feel like I’m self-sabotaging so I can lose my job. It happened over the past couple of years. I was carrying a 161% client load. It’s about to change-we hired a couple more people in my position, but I’m not sure I’m going to make it. I’m exhausted.
@@hkmarketingco I’m slowly getting better. The workload has eased up quite a bit. Still get triggered by certain things, but overall I just need to decide my path.
Thats not what, "depesonalisation," is. Also, lots of people dont have the means to access the resources needed to recover. Its called poverty and disadvantage.
Right! I was literally thinking: This sounds like everyone who lives in the ghetto. 😏 I’m fortunate to not be in such dire straights anymore but for some people, this is a whole-life experience!
Yep, Robert Sapolsky notes that one of the surest ways to have way too much stress in your life is to be poor, especially if you are born poor. That’s why there is such a life expectancy gap between the classes.
This feels a little insane. Like, our societies have decided to aggressively ignore an ongoing pandemic of a SARS known to cause cognitive decline and immune dysregulation. We are barreling towards a climate change future of global food shortages and unlivable heat that will cause deaths and migration on a massive scale. And our jobs are almost entirely focused on trying to preserve a damaging status quo that funnels as much money as possible upwards to make the rich richer. How are we supposed to feel that our jobs are meaningful? Isn't depersonalization a natural consequence of social organization and outcomes? When the values of your entire economic system are aligned against the values of community care and human life, how are you supposed to emotionally conform to them to not burn out? Burnout isn't an individual phenomenon; it is a systemic and social sickness. And the prognosis isn't good.
I’ve worked in restaurant hospitality for the past 15 years. The last few years have been difficult for me and I had no way of confirming that what I’ve been experiencing is burnout until I watched this video. Especially the description of depersonalization. I’ve told a close friend recently that I’ve become a shell of who I used to be and it’s true. Thanks for this dose of gnosis. It’s time to reclaim myself 🙏🙌
Honestly if customers weren't unpleasant or rude I'd be far less burnt out. The other night a manager got cussed out for being "discriminatory" for simply stating our restaurant didn't have military discount, and couldn't tell them to leave because we're a corporate location and the higher ups are VERY "the customer is always right!" Dealing with insane people and being unable to get away from them drains us heavily as humans are social creatures 🙁
Restaurant manager here. It’s beyond hard. I don’t even have the energy to figure out something else. I just got into a new company and it was cool at first but the location blew up and it’s now the hot-spot in the area. The demand is overwhelming and the amount of employees I’m in charge of is overwhelming. 50 people bugging me nonstop. I want to escape.
I would have liked a last piece about recovering from established long term burnout. This is the hardest, because the preventative measures probably still apply, but they take on the quality of more things you “are supposed to be doing” - more demands. My one criticism of the piece is that I think limiting burnout to work factors creates an incomplete picture. Personal demands can definitely play a role. Single moms is probably the most often cited, though in my case an elderly parent was the biggest factor. The reason I got served this clip is that long term burnout is a big topic at the moment on the neurodivergent channels, ADHD and autism. Neurodivergence adds some tricky variables; it certainly can make you more vulnerable to burnout, and certain neurodivergent traits strongly resemble the symptoms of burnout, which makes untangling what is a result of what that much harder. Not least because some of the traits that resemble burnout may in fact come from experiencing the causes of burnout throughout all areas of a neurodivergent person’s life. These days, this type of ongoing stress is often misattributed as trauma, and I appreciate that this piece talks about stress as a root. I do feel a need to clarify one last thing about that, however: burnout as an outcome is distinguishable from stress, but it flows from persistent stress. If you are trying to preempt burnout, it’s very important not to fall into looking at your situation and going “it’s just stress.” There’s nothing “just” about stress. No one can live a stress free life, just as no one can avoid being exposed to any carcinogens. But too much of either too constantly is likely to lead to health problems, and in the case of stress, those problems are often mental health related. Alas, the concerns often get applied only to whether you have a heart attack or a stroke. But many of us can tell you that breakdowns can be debilitating too. Persistent stress does damage to all systems, especially the prefrontal cortex. It is long past time for business and society to stop pretending that “what does not kill us makes us stronger.”
I’m just finally recovering from a burnout. Had to quit a dream job and take three months off to become myself again. Wow, so many of these symptoms I didn’t realize were caused by it, like the depersonalization.
the culture in Corporate America is probably a big cause of burnout. I worked for 6 years in Asia and colleagues there, tend to get friendly with time. Some of my good friends are my colleagues from my first job. And then I moved to America and colleagues are just cold and tend to switch out of their work personalities at 5 pm. And workplace conversations are just about work, which is why colleagues remain colleagues.
absolutely. when my workplace (european corp but the asia company office) basically still left the country offices alone, even though my team was a virtual team across southeast asia, we got to meet about once or twice a year, and we were globally among the best teams for the seamless teamwork and camaraderie. i still catch up with some of them years later whenever i’m in their countries. today, when they try to exert more control over the department and more of the north american culture is dominant over the whole global team whereas we’re no longer allowed to get together as a regional team, it all evaporated. north american way of fostering trust in a team is by making normal human cooperation into an acronymised concept. and then instead of literally just being a genuine friend to your colleagues so that you understand why they might be struggling or snippy, and therefore have a real team culture, you tell staff they should respond to the situation by saying their behaviour “is a lemon” and that’s supposed to be a non confrontational way of reminding them it isn’t helpful or welcome and they should stop it. and somehow the north americans think this is a fantastic idea - the rest of us can’t see how that helped the person with the behaviour grow since all it seems to do is pressure them to repress and internalise it. but hey the north americans are by far the majority now, so no one says anything for fear we’ll be told we are doing a lemon! 👏🏼 fantastic idea to make sure nobody in the team ever says how they really feel!
we're not allowed to talk about life and general stuff at work. it's the "time to lean, time to clean" culture. work is slavery in north american capitalism. if you aren't going at 100% 100% of the time you will be punished or at least it will reflect badly upon you in the eyes of management and they will hold it against you. the humanity of workers is disrespected and spit on constantly. poverty wages, no time off, no pensions. you're supposed to work until you drop dead on the shop floor; if you didn't already die last night sleeping on the street because you can't afford even the shittiest one bedroom.
After a life time of working, doing my best, working nights, weekends, really working hard, I always got a below average assessment from my bosses, no matter where I worked, what job I had, how hard I worked, how smart I worked, I always always always fell short. I felt it was useless for me to try anymore but yet, I had to work or I'd starve. I feel I cannot ever please an employer no matter what the job, career, task. So YES I'm burned out. I HATED working. Thank GOD I retired. I didn't think I could but after talking to a financial advisor, I found I could. So, GOOD BYE WORK WORLD. I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so burnt out that I have all the symptoms described in the video. At the end of my last job, I cried even when I was assigned to some small simple tasks which I would have no problem with. I don't want to talk to my coworkers anymore outside of work. I go berserk when someone wastes my time at work, I used to have a better control on my temper before that. I lost almost all of my compassion for others because I am busy with my self-pitying. I don't even feel happy when I get a raise because I felt like shit and my project has no progress at all, which makes me feel anxious constantly, even though my performance was praised by the manager. After quitting I still felt anxious and overwhelmed, because I need to find another job and I can't find one.
Hi everyone! I know you all think work is so important and “you can’t miss a day” but if you don’t take a break, your body will take the break for you. I spent a week in the hospital from having a seizure after being clinically burnt out. Tread realllll lightly folks.
Fam. I can so relate. Was on 3 straight weeks off work for sick leave treatment and recuperation. Pneumonia mainly but fatigue that led to low immunity was the main trigger.
That's awful. It has so many different ill effects on the brain, body and spirit that you don't even notice how quickly and viciously it's hitting you until it completely pulls you under. Amongst other thrilling treats, my grand prize is a stress-induced ulcer, yayyy. I resent this. I dread returning to work on Monday after 4 weeks of prescribed leave. I do not feel any better at all...
great resignation is fantastic response to be on that "verge of burnout" in my opinion. If you don't feel valued and appreciated, before you lose your own sense of value and let yourself be wounded, just runaway. You'll find someplace else, they'll find someone else. Nobody can be asked to sacrifice themselves or their health for a project. Because without your health you can't work and you'll have no income to put a roof over your head or food on your plate.
A good part of the burn out comes from societal issues. Another part comes from the way one personality reacts to the environment You may try to change external causes .. you can also try to modify the way you react to things..sometimes safety is in leaving the hostile environment you are in .
I’m trying mightily to do just that. I’ve been in burn out for so long though (years….years….years [Jim Halpert voice]), that in order to do what it takes to pull myself out and change the opportunities I qualify for I have to go beyond burn out…whatever that is. ☄️
There's quite a few comments saying not everyone can afford to go on sabbatical, which is true. However, what we CAN do, is really invest in ...making sure to get good rest every night...go out to your local park when the weather is nice, and enjoy the day, it's Free!...also, invest in social activities that you CAN afford. If you can't afford to go to the bar, have some friends over, and have an old school house party, if it's your thing. There's so many ways to let go, and have fun, as well as peace and quiet that are free, or lowered cost, and time. I started doing this about 10 yrs ago. I started treating my Friday's like it's the last day of school before summer...that alone really refocused my personal time in a Big way. Every weekend feels like summer break, and it's really changed my life😅 It really is the simple things that matter, and you can have it more often than you may realize.🥂💃
Where I’m from there’s really no help for that type of stuff, best thing to do is drink ( what most do in the area ). Used to work 12-13 hour work days for minimum wage and didn’t have days off so yeah booze is a friend sometimes when burnout happens
But what if in fact there are structural constraints that keep you from being effective? I didn’t burn out (I 100% was clinically burned out) the job changed over time to make it actually impossible to do well. But I reject that I was the one at fault. It wasn’t a lack of self care or some fault in my mental health, it was the structure of my job! I’m a teacher who took early retirement last year.
That’s just a toxic work environment. I’m going into my third year teaching, and I think I understand what you are saying. It’s really difficult to keep a work/life balance. Heck, I feel like a lot of the kids are experiencing burnout, but the fact is they don’t usually have to work.
If you're in an environment where you CAN'T succeed, the answer is to move on. If you're in this situation, and you don't realize the this quickly enough - that's a recipe for burnout.
I was researching on emotional exhaustion last night and frankly, none of it was appealing. However, "finding your identity outside of work" gave me something to ponder upon. Thanks 🙂
Another video dumping social problems on individuals. Just on more resilience or self care video and people should be fixed and everything will suddenly work
I have been through a burnout I really did hit rock bottom I wasn't able to work for 7 months straight. Don't ignore the early sighns it's a serious thing and YOU come first not any type of job. Cause at the end of the day a workplace can just replace you with someone else at least you put yourself first and take care of yourself ❤
I wish my parents felt this way. I've literally BEGGED them to quit for YEARS, espec lately, but they won't let me and get mad at me about 'being lazy' and 'just can't handle the pressure/stress' that they claim is 'my fault anyway'. Just got a massive lecture yesterday. It REALLY sucks! It's gotten to the point that I've started with they'd die just so I can get some peace! ;A;
I will gladly be a psychotherapist and have patients pay me to seek help. I will help them by telling to every one of them this same solution "What do you think you can do to help yourself?" Credits to my psychothreapist who gave me the same help which I paid for.
Lol this is so disproportionally out of touch with reality. We are poor. We can't afford therapy and proper care. I'm from Latin America btw. Not even public Healthcare or public universities have good mental Healthcare programs that could help people. In my case I'm autistic and ADHD, and it's hard as fuck to find care for adults like me even if you have the money because everyone treats kids only. Most people are too busy to make ends meet, we can't afford to save our minds.
Sadly I’m learning that’s largely the case even in richer countries with national health care. Adults with autism and ADHD mostly have few options unless they can pay...and even then there are long waits. I would guess it’s even worse where you are though.
Sometimes burnout isn’t so much about workload, but the nature of your tasks. When they are not as meaningful as you’d like them to be, when that feeling becomes overwhelming and causes emotional exhaustion, lack of purpose, lack of reward.
I appreciate that you go right to the elements of burnout and then move on to the factors behind those elements without some long drawn out introductory history taking up space until you get to the point. Thank you. Well done.
Every teacher around the world is feeling this. Correction: every good teacher who got into teaching to make a difference and not to enjoy a small power trip. I had to quit for my mental health. Maybe there's another type of job out there for me but being in a classroom isn't it. I'm in South Asia, burnout happened for so many people here in the aftermath of Covid.
Experienced burnout before years ago. Took a long sabbatical. Got a job I like but now, I'm on the verge of a burnout again. I remember the signs and the feelings with it. This video reminded me that I only can establish the boundary for work-life balance when others try to push it.
Doing the same thing over the days, weeks, and years even if you liked it at the begging after a while you just think that you should be doing something else and from my personal perspective it is worst when is a sedentary work. Also, the feeling that you cannot really stop doing this because you need the income these things are not cured with a book or sudden motivation.
I support call center operations and deal with 100's of requests from associates a day. I have no capacity to care and want to help. Every single request from associates or from my team members feels like I'm being imposed upon. I used to feel the desire to take on a little extra to help the team, but now that feeling is completely gone and I fear I am perceived as a mean slacker by my team. I have no energy for things I used to enjoy and barely manage to take care of myself and my home. I don't feel like I'm living my life anymore.
Actually, I believe that many sabbaticals are paid. Sometimes you have a specific project you are supposed to be working on, like a book. Sometimes you are a resident at another school. I think maybe sometimes it’s mostly just a break. At least that’s the way it used to work...I never got to do this but my wife used to houseclean for people who did...college town. I’ve come to the conclusion that the way to respond to people with favorable working conditions is to be glad for them, but recognize that others deserve the same options. (I’m not talking about the Bezos or Musks; no one needs a mega yacht or a social media company as your vanity platform.) We are in the end game with productivity...25 years ago, gains were easy because the PC made so many things faster. Now it’s blood from a stone, with frontline workers being the stone. Time to repudiate the Friedmanesque economic theories that have dominated the global ecomony for almost 50 years.
Oh, when I hear people talk about taking a sabbatical it really just pisses me off. Must be freaking nice to have all your ducks in a row all your bills pay everything perfectly where you can just stay six weeks three months, six months off and not have to work. That is not the case for majority of humans.
Ugh, I went from caregiver burnout to compassion fatigue about 3 years ago, and isolation and getting to a safer situation has been obstructed as I continue to overwork myself in order to push through
As all the comments seem to already observe, these silly concepts like "burnout" (ok, not silly per se, but usually in how it is presented) only serve to normalize American business and capitalisms artificial enforcement of scarcity. I recommend David Graeber's talk on here about "bullshit jobs", in which he discusses how feasible a 15 hour work week is (very), and the social consequences of artificially employing people doing nothing but killing time. These videos kill me. We cannot separate social science from mental health any longer. Yes, social workers etc are crucial in times where we need not revolution, but a simple support mechanism to get back on our feet. But this is no world to stand in, because you stand only to take more blows, and doing so repeatedly constitutes for us our self hatred, not some need for a damn vacation. Herbert Marcuse called his concept of revolt "the great refusal," which I think explains itself pretty nicely; and we can refuse modernity's sick socio-logic by criticizing videos like this one for normalizing abusive regimes and economic structures. S/o all my sane homies in the comments feeling the same.
This is me as a nurse. I’m 15 years in and some point during Covid I feel like something left my body. I was ICU nursing the entire pandemic. My soul was sucked out of me and I have yet to recover.
I’m so thankful that in Europe you can take sick leave if you are burned out. And the doctor’s note just says “due to illness” and doesn’t mention burnout which protects employee from backlash that they are somehow weak or sick in the head or something (I know some employers are wild out there).
In my last job I felt burnout basically every day, but I couldn't quit because I have a small child and live in an area with limited opportunities. I was there for 7 years.
I think burnout will become only more prevalent. Partly due to the workload, but even more significantly due to no longer accepting all the rubbish that goes on in the workplace. And that doesn't involve just the usual office gossip, but more profoundly what each industry actually means to the human race and the planet.
I took a break after years of saving for it but now the problem is the opposite. I now have zero interest on going back and wasn't even sure that I have the capacity to go back. How you act during the sabbatical is also important and only take a break if you have a clear plan on what's next. I thought I had plans but they're mostly ideas that bounced off my head. My learning is that I should've had a fixed time and should've set my plans into action before I even went on a break.
We need to change the language here describing burnout. Constatnly referring to "job" or "work" negates those who are suffereing form burnout due to life circumstances. So yes an unpaid "job" like caring for sick loved ones is a "job" nonethelss it isn't a choice. That lack of choice in your direction adds another dimension to burnout. So while people can comit to a career that leads them to burnout, others have to work at a "job" and have demands beyond the norm outside of working, like caring for sick or special needs people in their lives and that is a whole other level of burnout. The reference to unfairness in the video touches on an important point, often the lack of control and with no reward is draining.
Yes , it’s the modern world demands , frustration, revolting phone queues, being controlled, being talked down too, 40 mins -2 hours waits when your trying to sort things out. Low paid workers and disabled. It’s toxic ness from bosses treating staff like robots. DWP bullying low paid, trying to get things fixed that do t work. Everyone judging each other. I have adhd autism . And everything else, but then we get bullied out of work so people can’t recover. This is psyops and socially engineered in uk. Stop treating workers like robots. Misplacing disabled people and expecting same workloads iff them and same re older workers expected to do the same as a 20 year old. Thing is if people are tired stressed and actually don’t have outside of work time they don’t do these things. Manual workers who don’t drive have no life really.
@JesusIsTheSonOfGod-kc3pz death isn sun it’s in everything lol it’s nature. Look at your own sins before trolling people who have said we aren’t interested.
Potential solutions on a societal scale? 30hr workweeks, 3day weekends. Automate as many jobs as possible and give everyone a Universal Basic Income and Universal Healthcare not tied to a job. The USA was almost the first country to implement a 30hr workweek(see Black/Connery Bill). Pres FDR said not doing it was one of his major regrets. That was almost 100 years ago. We should be reducing the work hours and giving people more freedom and free time as we automate jobs. It’s long overdue. A sabbatical sounds awesome. But who is able to do that nowadays???
This exactly describes all emergency personnel. In addition to working unusual shifts, covering all times of the day and week, the stresses of dealing with emergent healthcare drastically increase the speed of the onset of burnout.
Love that for you but the majority of people can't take a sabbatical. The majority of the people need to work to survive and that's ultimately an issue that comes from the way things work in this modern day and age and we can't be made responsible for fixing ourselves when the way our work environments function is wrong.
👎I have no degree or neither am I doctor of any kind. But in my opinion I don't agree with these definitions. When I talk to others about burnout which I've gotten quite a bit (ask anyone in design or marketing) they usually talk about the exhaustion of not being able to care of yourself. For example, working on a project for so long that you haven't showered, haven't had time to do any hobbies, and missed family events and on Monday you still gotta go in and get more stuff on your plate. That's burntout there's no other emotions other than anger, you're just angry you gotta work this hard to keep your job and make someone richer than you. That's the state I've found plenty of people in...I do agree with the rewards part, it adds to it. These signs/definitions sound more like depression then burnout..again burnout is the point where you can't sleep properly because your job/responsibilities are hunting you = you can't take care of yourself. I'm sorry but I just can't agree with these signs, I know she talks about stress and burnout being different but I they've evolved in today's era. I'll try to look at the studies but to me these don't make sense.
So the answer to burnout is to do even more stuff? I actually do a lot of stuff as far as hobbies and spending time with people who aren’t co-workers. I’ve never staked my identity in my job because I’ve never had a job that has anything to do with who I feel I am. The tech companies and education debt zapped my chances of engaging my talents and interests for steady, existence-sustaining income generation. I’m completely burned out and very lonely. I was fired by my therapist, so I pack my non-work hours with activities I enjoy, eschew things I don’t enjoy (aka cleaning domicile) and just hope my human existence terminates soon.
No amount of copium or sabbaticals can address the issue of modern society being a productivity machine, where human nature clashes with human greed. We live in an age of post-accountability. A person might spend years in prison for a minor offence, whilst big league traders and companies get let off with a slap on the wrists or a fine that is mere percentages of their profits. Young people strive to be influencers, advertisements are bombarding us from the second we wake up, Big Brother is watching and we're all just drifting along, pressured and discouraged by the unnatural feel of it all. TLDR, but that's my personal experience with burning out.
"Depersonalization can consist of a detachment within the self, regarding one's mind or body, or being a detached observer of oneself. Subjects feel they have changed and that the world has become vague, dreamlike, less real, lacking in significance or being outside reality while looking in. It can be described as feeling like one is on “autopilot” and that the person's sense of individuality or selfhood has been hindered or suppressed" This is what depersonalisation feels like, I've been through this myself. The autopilot part is really how it feels like, or like looking at your life through glass, being an observer. Puting depersonalisation and being cynical or on a short fuse and labeling as the same is just wrong.
My favorite part of being burnt out is having a 2300 dollar a month rent and 750 in student loans that make any kind of career or lifestyle change impossible. I definitely do not want to die!
Meanwhile quit quitting is everywhere because nobody feels like their valued or is payed what their owed regardless of how much they give. Our success is most often than not, not in our hands. We rely on others to elevate us to where we wanna go, and today hard work is not rewarded. So we become pissed off, cynical, depressed, nihilistic. For me? Its pissed off, because ive always stood everyone up regardless of lvl of experience or qualification without feeling like its hard in every working environment ive been in, and yet im tired of petty, insignificunts who wont move asside because their ego or delusions cant handle it. So i distance myself from society because people make me tired, i dont deal with slackers or anyone who cant keep up. I think allot of young people are tired of old methods, traditions, amd our fates decided by the older generations who dumped their problems onto us and then have the audacity to call us weak. Like yeah its my fault i cant afford a house when you could at my age. Russia, Japan even South Africa, and more, the youth are subject to decisions made by their older peers that hinder our lives. Hence we are all so fked in the head these days.
I hate the phrase quiet quitting...as usual struggle and attempts to find work life balance are characterized as moral failings. Can’t those selfish workers puhLEEZE think of the long suffering billionaires struggling to afford their third mega yacht? Yeah, every generation I’ve seen has been screwed in lots of ways, but yours is stuck with the disintegration of the planet and a spectacular gilded age. You can feel pissed with my blessing.
I appreciated that there wasn't very much background music. It is so anxiety producing. This was nice that there wasn't too much background music. Thank you for your video.
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Do you feel burned out?
I feel emotionally burned out and worry re my spinal health. And OA and gerd and terrified of the future but due to adhd I either process ridiculous amounts of info but then don’t process others so I actually don’t appear to be burned out , I’m not sleeping I’m hyper intellectually but burned out with the system that is supposed to help
They don’t care son
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I've been a hair away from going berserk for 3 years now... at this point, jail or a hospital sounds like a restful vacation.
@@lc6450 it’s the way I feel too. I’m sorry you feel that way too. I think the northeast is backwards re mh on working class autistics. They just don’t get that the actual system makes us sick. I’ve got one more pip I’m hoping they will just leave me in peace for 10 years at least. I’ve had 2 year assessments or fails for 18 years with them. 14 I was failed 2 I got.. the actual phone calls needing support to deal with the actual services is what roles me and being passed around to endless people. We’ve had fibre put in the village today they been buzzing my doorbell when I’m upstairs . Asking about the neighbours cars to move them even when I don’t drive3 times and I said ring 88&86 the other lass is at work . And my neighbours got really bad RA atm. Been doing a fridge maintain type clean and couldn’t get the glass to go in that’s done my back in. Supposed to be getting a kitchen in as my tap is so old they can’t get the parts. But that in next 2-8 weeks and takes a week plus’s it’s everything they are doing . That means finding some place to put 11 seriously full cupboards some place for a week. I recon that will be a microwave meal and salad week and having a Chinese 🤣🤣 Ive order loads of Temus stuff and gadgets. But it’s mostly storage keep it tidy stuff they had a sale on if storage thickened storage zip bags for £2.47 reduced from 12.99 they stack up and go on top of stuff and look tidy. I’m waiting on a decent bungalow to move into. So I’ll need stuff like that to put my stuff , had loads if vouchers and used the lot 🤣🤣 . I’ve got shrink on the 4th, someone saying they are doing a repair but not saying what it is on the 5th, the podiatrist in the 6th , the mould guy coming out to inspect the mould problem on the 7th, the social services on the 10th and the dentist in the 14th. I hate appointments. Pips assessments due anytime between July n October. Honestly I just deal with it. Just want . A holiday which I haven’t had since 1997 seriously, doesn’t have to be abroad. 🤣🤣
I love how the fix to this is to take a sabbatical and re-align yourself...something a vast majority of us can't ever afford to do. It's just not a plausible fix in reality.
That's a problem with modern culture that can be changed
yes but they won't because people in power want people working for them as long as possible with no breaks
@@Taku1Tqkus2 that's definitely not true if you work hourly. Bosses want to avoid overtime at all cost. Also, it's a choice for you, every day, if you go to work or not. You aren't a slave. Or try becoming a "person in power" yourself and be the boss you would want to have.
If you're living paycheck to paycheck, that's your own fault. People taking extended time off is quite common outside the US. Live in a cheaper house / city. Drive a cheaper car. Cook your own meals instead of going to restaurants.
The average global income is like $10k ish per year. We Americans think we have to spend $50k-$100k per year to be comfortable, and we just don't. If you're working that hard just to be miserable, what's the point?
And it's not like time off has to be traveling the world, staying at 5-star hotels. It IS possible to have cheap time off.
It's absolutely true that most people aren't able to take a sabbatical; she was just speaking from her own experience. Even if you don't have the luxury of being able to take one, it's worth noting you you may still be able to apply the strategies she mentions: cultivate relationships outside of work, remember to do simple things that bring you joy (e.g. Guitar Hero), move your body regularly, etc.
I'm pretty sure we live in an age and society...that creates burnout.
Our lifestyles are so unnatural and nonstop. The large majority also deal with real financial stress just trying to survive and get to work and pay for childcare.
Then there's all the greed and corruption that dictates and shapes important social structures like access to medicine and education.
Our entire species is burned out.
....I dont think it's created. It's symptom of lying to oneself. And affluent Western nations are champions of deceit, cowardice and self promoting propaganda...
I would go as far as to argue that those that don’t experience burnout are the real issue. They are the reason we keep this charade called ‘modern civilisation’ going
@@MadsNordholm I am more concerned with the actual definition of "burn-out" and the causes.
Nobody is claiming it doesn't exist - even if it's referred to under a different name.
It was referred to by the ancient Greeks and in the Stoic traditions as melancholy.
The Indigenous people of Australia also made references to it in their Dream Time stories.
Sports people also show signs of "burn-out" sometimes called fatigue or a lack of inspiration to battle on in contests.
In affluent Western Nations it is common for "burn-out" to be exploited by the Ruling class and also the intellectual class - an excuse for facing some home truths.
After all it's much easier to blame an affliction or something else rather than looking in the mirror - one of the hardest things to do.
Just my opinion of course......
It's just the normal course of capitalism. It need to tend to that, to accelarate, it's part of his internal dynamics.
@@OsvaldoBayerista But the USA is not a Capitalist system. It's a corrupt tyrannical Corpocracy with expansionist imperialist tentacles that has invaded at least 38 countries since the end of WW2 resulting in about 23 million deaths - mainly civilian deaths.
The 20th century has seen the emergence of 3 major forms of fascism: Bolshevism, Nazism and Corporatism.
Were you paying attention as to who was calling the shots during the Pandemic? Who was bailed out? Who was looked after? Who made the profits? Why there are so many corporatised elitist puppets dangling in Washington?
There has been shift away from US Hegemony over the past decade or two. It has accelerated over the past 5 years. US Petro-Dollar will be dead soon. There are economic and strategic alliances being formed across the planet that dont include the toxic US master-servant model that was developed by the British during their global reign of terrorism on the high seas......
One of The most difficult things to do is to look in the mirror and make honest judgements.
As someone born in the US, but living the last 4 years in the Netherlands - it's very interesting to see how differently the subject of burnout is addressed in each country. In the US, the best burnout treatment most people can hope for is a compassionate boss that will help prioritize your mental health by making small, temporary adjustments to your workload. In the Netherlands, you're able to take up to two years off with a government mandated 70% minimum of your pay to allow you to focus on your mental health and truly treat your symptoms. And many companies will even add additional pay up to 100% of your salary. And yes, we do pay high taxes for the privilege of prioritizing mental health, other healthcare, transportation, education, etc - but in my mind - it's absolutely worth every penny to know that if and when I need help, I'm able to seek it - regardless of pre-existing conditions or financial pressures. Not trying to push this structure on anyone else, just some food for thought for those that might share a similar vision for a balanced and secure human existence.
I've considered relocating from the USA because of the social structure and lack of prioritization of human rights ... But we can barely afford to pay the bills and I'm deeply in debt due to a life changing injury to my neck.
We are enslaved to this broken system.
I dream of a world where we don't allow Profits and Currency to undermine social institutions. A resource based economic system.
It's not a lack of resources...but a lack of morality
How did you move from the U.S. to the Netherlands?
Wow, that system in the Netherlands sounds amazing! I’m in the UK, and that sounds like such a good way to reset.
I’ve been at the point of burnout for over 2.5 years now… a fifth of my department at work got made redundant in 2020 including my closest colleague, which was very upsetting (leading to increased workload for those remaining), and in the next year we lost three more really great people through their own choice to leave, all of whom made the experience of working there better, so their leaving has been a real detriment. We’ve since hired a few more people - some of them good, but notably the head of department and also my line manager are… not good, to say the least (my old manager is still there but I don’t report to him anymore after some restructuring, which is a shame… though I do still get to work with him a little bit). Morale is terrible, the dept head is a manipulative tyrant who treats us like children and makes every interaction something to dread, and my line manager drains the interest and enjoyment out of everything while serving purely as a slow down and obstacle to getting anything done. Everything is antagonistic and feels futile, and I’m not drawing any sense of fulfilment or satisfaction from my work anymore.
Short of those two people leaving who are so instrumental in the way the team is run and managed, I don’t see any way for it to be salvaged for me… problem with burnout is it’s also difficult to get the mental energy and motivation together to update your CV and do the whole exhausting job-hunting thing, even though I know it’s essentially the only way to make things better! The idea of an extended time where I’m still getting enough money coming in to pay the mortgage and living costs, but don’t have to keep getting ground down by everything at work so I can try and muster the energy and actions required to get a new job, is very appealing.
I wish I could move literally anywhere that treats its citizens better than the USA, but if you're someone who has no money, no work experience that qualifies you for a high demand job, no self employment, and experiences disabilities that mean you need some social support even if you're working... pretty much no country will allow you to immigrate there. Not to mention the double-bind of it being difficult to find work if you're not in the country you're looking at, but not able to get a work visa unless you have a job. As a globe, we make it really difficult for people to just pack up and move somewhere else if they don't like the country they were born in. I'm happy for you that you were able to leave.
Sadly, I think the Netherlands is more of an outlier than I had hoped. I have typically considered the US to be bottom of the barrel among industrialized nations with regard to employment and mental health issues, and it is. But following neurodivergent channels has made me realize that national health care does not result in particularly good or affordable mental health care in many countries. Adult autism and ADHD support is heavily privatized in many places. And obtaining meds if you have ADHD is actually even harder in a lot of places. One neurodivergent vlogger I follow is from the Netherlands, and I have gathered that things are better there. I’m not sure from news reports where things are going politically though.
One thing is clear to me: we are reaching the end game with regard to unchecked global capitalism. The absolute worst export the US has given to the world is the toxic idea that capitalism is self-regulating and needs no other inputs or controls.
This isn't a clinical problem, it's a perfectly natural reaction to American businesses grasp on us. We are constantly driven to work ourselves to death with no hope of real growth. We fulfill other men's dreams and ours die in the process.
Absolutely correct
Sounds like a fair observation to me (from the other side of the Atlantic) -- but what drives you to do this?
If I were in a different culture or economic system, I would likely still endure burnout. That is because I am neurodivergent, which has a more intense and regular form of burnout. Communist countries, for instance, do not yet accommodate neurodivergence.
And to top it off, the burnt out party is usually Pune for being burnt out rather than helped in any way by their employer. It was the case for me anyway.
The logical end step of unchecked capitalism borne of the Protestant work ethic.
As someone with ADHD + sensory processing sensitivity I feel like I walk around with this dirty secret that I've been burned out every waking moment of my life and no amount of vacation can ever remedy it.
Yeah, likewise. Additionaly, currently i´m at uni + working part time highly intensive and physical labour till late evening.60,70 hours per week in total. Everyday i wake up feeling like a lorry drove over me. It´s not even burn out, but it isn´t depression. Maybe there is no medical term for what we feel. And people ask me how i am, why i´m tired. Jeez, give me a break...
i know what you mean smh
I felt this. Being aware of it doesn’t solve anything neither even if it’s “aware now to find solutions”. You just get use to it and do what you can and got to do. Shit is ridiculous, I don’t plan on living like this forever
If you're already 27 yrs and above, I recommend meth.
@@needheartranken Lmaooo. Marijuana is the perquisite 21-26 before next option😩😩
I ended up in the hospital because of burnout. I called it a nervous breakdown, but my shrink said I was suffering from emotional and physical exhaustion. I did recover eventually. It was a long road. I had to learn how to take care of myself. I don't run myself ragged anymore. I say no to people if I need too.
It's very important to be able to say no to people, whether it's at work, or emotional blackmail from family and friends.
Look after yourself.
How long was the process? I’m a year into recovery now myself.
Any tips or advice?
@@User98681 Sorry to hear that. I don't wish it on anyone. I was 25 at the time. I'm 66 now. I was in the hospital for 2 months. I was not working for another 2 months, but then I had to go back to work. My hands were still shaking. It took about a year for my hands to stop shaking. I was very nervous about looking for a new job, but I got one and it was the first step to me normalizing my life again. When I was 28 I accidently fell upon a medication a doctor had given me for headaches, but it turned my world from black and white to color after my shrink increased the dosage. I've been on it ever since. My recovery was one step at a time and it was important to take good care of myself. Life got better and better over time. One piece of advice for anyone with depression etc. is to stay away from drugs and alcohol. They really don't help you. I drank wine every night and I was definitely self-medicating. If I had to do it all over again, I would stay away from alcohol. Fortunately, I don't have an addictive personality so when I retired, I just didn't want a glass of wine every night and I stopped. All my best to you. Be good to yourself, stay in therapy if you need it, if you are on medication and it is helping keep taking it, take one step at a time, and leave the past behind you as much as you are able to. Counting my blessings every day really helps too.
Laughs in software engineer
Snickers in special education teacher.
I actually started as a computer science major and dropped it because despite doing OK my eyes were gonna fall out.
And then I chose a more burnout of a career 😅
you get paid a lot for that burnout.
Literally 😅
@@krisxaeroyeah I was just about to say, my programmer friend gets like $200K/an, they complain but they get all the cash
There's no amount I could be paid that would be worth the stress of dev, unless I happened to be the scrum master.
I suffered clinical burnout, severe clinical depression and diagnosable adrenal fatigue from my job. Brought on by a toxic boss, working in a pressure cooker, and a hostile work environment. Coupled with a personal loss, and a work injury that resulted in severe chronic pain, that I had to learn how to absorb/sit in the pain because nothing worked to relieve it.
I ended up struggling for another year, concentrated on eliminating my monthly outflow of cash (bills), paid off credit cards and cancelled them. And saved as much as I could.
I was able to quit work for two months and then found a part time job. I would ride my motorcycle almost daily. Sleep as long as I wanted and just sit in my hammock and watch the birds for hours. It was bare bones living but I somewhat healed my body, mind and soul. That was 3 years ago. I still struggle when I feel the least bit stressed. It is a long road to recovery, of which I really don't know if I will ever completely recover from.
I now try to live the most peaceful, calm, drama-free life I can. I have walked away from people and jobs to maintain my peace and contentment. Your mental health, people is one of your most precious resources.
Sounds like you had some ptsd from the injury. accident. Great recovery future for you. Sound like on the right path.
More power to you. I relate a lot to what you said and chronic stress reallllyy sucks. Hope you get a good life.
Am curious what kind of job youre doing now?
@@mamoon7619I am currently working in manufacturing on an off shift. My supervisor is exceptional. It's very laid back and no top brass around, so it's fairly quiet. I punch a clock and when i walk out the door, the work stays at work.
I have a 3-year plan that I am executing. Looking to purchase another motorcycle and eliminate all my remaining debt. I then plan to work part time.
1. Increased workload
2. Values mismatch
3. Unfairness
4. Sense of reward
She just described 99.9% of jobs in America. Why do you think "quiet quitting" became a thing?
It’s not even “quiet quitting”
It’s asking work to simply do what is required of them. Not have to work extra hours without proper pay, more time off, etc. these things should be a given but media makes it out to be like we are “quitting”
It's crazy that the "symptoms" of burnout are directly in line with the normal modern "work environment".
Only those in higher paying careers or those with a spouse who makes a lot of money can choose to go on sabbatical. Those of us who have struggled to build a career or are undereducated just have to suck it up when burnout happens.
@@Dimitris_Half pretty sure it's worldwide. Don't get me started on asian work culture. They're raised to be burned out.
@@Dimitris_Half bro you know how many hours they work in japan, south korea and even china? do u?
Facts
@@Dimitris_Half In capitalism*
90% of world cant afford sabbatical
I'm so burned out that I'm abandoning friendships in a desperate attempt to have more time for myself. I just don't have the time, energy or inclination to maintain them anymore, & the idea of someone wanting to hang out with me makes me irrationally angry to the point where I want to physically lash out.
But people just expect so much. People at work want to hang out afterwards. People outside of work want to infringe upon my decompression time once work is over. People assume that my weekends are free for socialising, when I need them to recover enough energy to lather, rinse & repeat the next week.
Honestly, if I never interacted in-person with another human being in my life, it would be too fucking soon.
I’ve been lucky enough to take some sabbatical for the past months. First thing I did was to move to another country where I don’t know anybody. I’ve been on almost zero interaction for the past 4 months, I only use my voice to order at cafes, or to say hi/bye to the cashier and bus driver. Best months I’ve ever had in my entire life. No pointless coffee brake small talks, no draining overwhelming family reunions, etc. Just my own days to spend however I want. Even not having to regularly decline invitations is a blessing. I loath having to go back to this constant invasion of my personal space.
Exactly how I feel. You've described it perfectly. I can't even concentrate anymore on anything and don't have the enthusiasm for a thing. I avoid everything as much as I can. The cats are the only creatures I love and want around me. I'm fed up with everything. How much longer is this life gonna take... I'm only 39 and a thought of being a slave for another 10, 20, 30 years or so, makes me even less motivated for anything. And people are so boring. Nothing interests me anymore. All I hear is boring and all I see is wrong. I hate to be here...
Ending up alone isn’t good. I think your issue isn’t not wanting your friends around. It’s that you have the wrong friends for you.
@@Callitout-kl1uq It's about not having enough time to recharge. When You don't have that, even the good times and the good people are exhausting You.
Burned out with the whole system
I feel you...
real
Facts
The work environment really contributes. Micro-managers will criticize your one 'mistake' and overlook the 100 ways you do the job well. The boss has 'favourites' who get away with anything. People sense the toxicity and quit so their workload is dumped on the survivors. Salaries not keeping up with inflation Constant scheduling changes and workplace wants you available 24/7 and on short notice. Every day I go to work I wonder if this is the day where I just walk out.
Yes! Hard work used to be rewarded decades ago. Now you’re just rewarded with more work. I’m an older person who has seen management styles really go downhill! The lazy are rewarded. Hard work doesn’t pay off. 🤷♀️
As a fellow academic, i find it really very insulting that she said "oh i just took a sabbatical to fix my issues". Most people can't do that, and suggestions like that are utterly pointless. The burnout stems *from* an inability to stop working, an inability to control your circumstances, little to no reward for your work, and the apathy that comes with those things.
This speaker is a professor, head of department (i.e. has been heavily rewarded for their work), and was able to take a sabbatical (i.e. has complete control of their workflow) and they have the audacity to pretend that this is any sort of solution for the vast majority of people?
Further, while she does - very briefly - talk about organisations needing to change their approach to work, she spends most of her time talking about how *you* need to change *your* approach to work. Cause clearly, its the worker that's mostly at fault here. *You* haven't managed *your* workload effectively, *you* haven't taken time for *your* hobbies and interests, *you* identify too strongly with *your* work. Shifting blame and responsibility onto the worker and not the employer or the structural systems behind the work...
Horrible attitude. Even worse that its held by a researcher in the field.
i agree!
when psychologists or psychiatrists pathologize normal human emotions and blame everything on the individual, rather than the system that is servile to the rich and powerful … all it means is that we have commodified the disenfranchised members of society!
when laws are passed to allow the billionaires to underpay workers and overcharge/gouge customers and pay no taxes themselves - we have become the new slaves
i can’t stand it when these people blame the individual for their plight! it’s like they’re telling the poor to “shut up and be a nice, compliant, lowly slave”
🤢
yeah
“sabbatical”!
ha! just what IS sabbatical for minimum-wage earners?
Emotional burnout doesn't happen only at work. I've got a burnout being a stay-at-home mother with three kids.
And why did you make 3 kids then?
@@Yakito666 Because I love kids. Loving parents are not immune to burnout.
Your question is like "You injured your knee while you were jogging. Why did you go jogging?"
Being a [good] mother IS a F/T job. You're working harder than most people w a F/T office job, hell these days you're probably working harder than most of my laborers on a bricklaying crew.
@Yakito666 because of biology and math. If 2 people replace themselves w 1 person [by having only 1 child] the entire human race would cease to exist in a determinant amount of time. If 2 people replace themselves w 2 people the race is stagnant and will just take longer to die off. If 2 people replace themselves w 3 or more people the population grows and the human race continues to prosperity. Biology and math.
@CanadianMason85 Thank you ❤️
I just quit my job for being burnt out. I don't think I can work anymore. After quitting I feel so good and alive again. But cannot be without job much longer, gotta take care of my family.
any progress in a new job? how have things been 7 months later?
@@sk8legendz I am at new job now. Restarting my career again. Career break gave me mental peace. I did lose my salary though, it's much lower than before. But mental peace is more valuable to me.
The problem is work and other people. I don’t like work and I don’t like other people. If I could just remove both of those things from my life, I would feel better.
I think relationships with other people is important for happiness, but I get that some people have harder times finding people they like.
😂 hahahahah same here some times
I’m hearing ya ❤
I don't like corporate world and some bosses that are too BOSSY!
Dont wish your present to be something else, accept it and start to understand how to deal with everyday things, just complaining about your job, your co workers or that your family isnt ideal is not going to take you anywhere. Start taking action.
Oh Jesus, you guys act like rich billionares haven’t extorted me for every dollar they can, and I just have wads of cash lying around to go get therapy and help.
Which billionaires have extorted you and for what?
We just lost a few billionaires in the Titan. At $265K each, very expensive funerals.
@@harshbutt corporate shill detected.
@@Dimitris_Half bingo!!
@@harshbutt bud, the tendency of company owners today is to hire the worker for as little money as legally possible, give them so many hours they can’t reasonably go on vacation any time soon, then turn around and go on bi-weekly vacations in their private jet at the cost per trip of your entire yearly salary.
While you struggle to put food in your fridge and pay the car loan at the same time.
I love when people with the privilege of being able to take an actual *sabbatical* try to tell you how you can stop feeling burnt out.
I feel you
Its like "go get help with the no extra money and no extra time"
Yeah it’s a very “let them eat cake” response. My sabbatical is retirement or death.
Line cook here. Yep. We work 365 days a year. No vacation. No breaks during our shifts. We make food but rarely get to actually eat. It’s unrewarding. Hot. Humiliating. Exhausting. I’m constantly in a state of fatigue and soreness. Must be nice having a career that allows time off. In the kitchen it’s get over it and get back to work and keep working until you fall over from a heart attack. Which actually happened to another line cook that used to work with me. Just fell over dead. Sabbatical. Ha!
@@CBBeresfordHow do you yourself keep going?
@@Ophelia11 I have to work to survive and I’ve already been doing this most of my life. Coupled with the fact that I have zero friends and haven’t been on a date, or had physical contact with a person who likes me, in eight years. It’ll probably lead me to an early grave. Yay capitalism.
For me personally, the talk I hear about burnout makes me angry. I got burnt out mainly from having to care for myself, literally from self care itself, like going to the doctors, cleaning, eating, exercising etc. while having unadressed health issues/disabilities. And the solution I hear to burnout is always caring for yourself better. Aaaagh. Like mate. That being so hard is what got me there in the first place.
ADHD?
@@kathrynroitz I mean, I was diagnosed with ADHD, but it's a bit more complicated, because I might be also autistic, and I kinda relate to the PDA type of autism.
@@Dimitris_Half I mean, it's a bit complicated. You can have people in your life but they don't understand you and don't support you in ways that help you. A lot of my social struggles have to do with the same thing that made everything difficult. I'm trans and gender dysphoria got me personally really bad. I personally got chronic stress from being on the wrong hormones, there being constant noise in my emotions and them feeling wrong, my sensations feeling wrong somehow, a general sense of just something being wrong. I was just too tired and overwhelmed and emotional to deal with people.
Right?! We're trying to take care of ourselves with a system set up to crush us. Everyone can't take a sabbatical
I have a lovely partner and friends, and a comfy home. I'm seriously burned out by being disabled (physically and cognitively). Being disabled in modern society practically guarantees some continuous form of burnout, particularly if you aren't wealthy.
As a former software engineer, the notion of "emotional burnout" resonates strongly with me. I experienced it in the final job of my career. (I retired early because of it.)
If you've ever experienced sleep paralysis, that's what burnout felt like to me. When I would sit down at my computer to start working, my arms felt paralyzed; it took all of my will to lift my hands to the keyboard to start working.
That was five years ago. Even today, the thought of putting together a resume and starting the interview process for another engineering job feels daunting and stress-inducing. Even worse, the experience was systemic; it left me unmotivated and apathetic toward all aspects of my life. It's a malaise that persists to this day.
Prior to my last job, I always felt considerable passion for my work. This was such an unfortunate, unexpected end to my career.
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Sorry to hear about this. I can relate and I'm an engineering manager
Hi. I think I understand you. I am more fortunate. I still keep on going to work. Let’s say because I must. Just to survive. I wish you the best luck.❤
Feeling this way with 35 yo and 12 years of programming. Can't do it anymore
@@juanmaflyer Ugh, sorry to hear it. Unfortunately, you're a bit young to retire. Are you considering moving on to something else?
"the best thing you can do is look after yourself" gee who would've thought of that, how fkn profound
Yes to all of this, but the problem is that you don’t really think you’re burnt out until you hit a wall and you have nothing left. I found the best way to get past without was to ask myself who am I at my core and how can I bring, more of that to my day. That allowed me to take baby steps when I was burnt and then bigger steps as I became more energized.
There is no question I've hit clinical burnout. I even took a vacation/travel sabbatical of sorts a few months ago; about 5 weeks long which is much longer than most Americans would be able to do. It was great, but when I got back to the job it was almost as if I never left. Just as cynical, fuse just as short, motivation shot, stress level rocketed back up again. Been at this 15 years. For those who are feeling the same but only a couple years in, it doesn't always get better. Sometimes a total change is in order.
5 weeks are not enough. At least 3-4 month (or better a year) are needed to completely restore your nervous system. I know it's almost impossible in our current economic situation...
@@_Julia.K_ or two, a year in an abusive or less-than-supportive/accepting environment where you feel inferior will often times prolong this even though the nervous system has opportunity to get better, and may, it is very sensitive at this time. So, someone who is completely, or even repeatedly, assaulted/harmed/made-to-feel-unsafe-in-any-way again can easily revert back to incapacity, making recovery longer. This is why the current mechanism of our society doesn't work super well. It can, but I think truly, relationships and emotional wellbeing are the most advantageous thing to understand for long term success and change.
I just came back from the holidays on a very long stretch of vacation, and coming back was painful. Even now it literally causes me pain to be at my job. I get paid extremely well and can more than provide for my family, but at what cost? I have no life, no purpose other than my family, and I waste my evenings watching ever more TH-cam feeling tired but can't sleep. The sooner I sleep the quicker another miserable day comes.
@@effervescentrelief Looks more like depression than burnout. Depression can't be treated by vacations.
You have to take a break and also change the situations that caused burnout in the first place
Oh cool the answer is just to take a sabbatical. Lmao.
Exactly. Most people don’t have the luxury of such time off.
I took a sabbatical and they repossessed my car 😩
i'm sorry 😭😭 but this highlights the inevitable hypocrisy of a subject like this. i get she's a psychologist and so she's working on what individuals can do to make themselves happier but the truth is, unless we change the physical conditions of our society burnout will not end. people are getting burned out because of constant exploitation. we can't just take a sabbatical! our bills won't get paid!
What an eye opener. I started a new job 9 months ago 'cause my old company downsized and I needed to make rent and since then my mental (and even physical) health went downhill real fast. This new job doesn't let me do what I do best, I provide almost no value, and I'm even doing something that I wasn't hired for. Some days there's literally zero work to do but I still feel the pressure to do something. Most people would say "oh cool you get paid for doing nothing" but the kind of stress and emotional drain coming from feeling useless and doing things wrong just because the company works a certain way it's eating me up from the inside. I've been sleeping either 2 hours or 12, snapping at friends and family and just generally dreading going into work at 9.
I can totally relate to not doing anything and feeling emotionally stressed by it. During the first year and a half of covid I sat at my desk and waited to hear from my supervisor or boss. No one ever engaged with me. I played hours of animal crossing. Eventually my supervisor one day told me "the work we are doing is above you. Just wait until we ask you to do something." It made me feel worthless. I worked on myself and then one day in June of 2021 restrictions were lifted and I was at full speed ahead - double speed even since we were now all working overtime to get things back up and running. But I wasn't prepped for it, I wasn't apart of these "larger conversations" and so I broke down a couple of weeks in and have been going that speed every since. Even changing jobs it just put me in a worse position mentally. Finally I got another new job a couple of months ago and I realized after a couple of weeks that I had been so burnt-out for years that coming into a nurturing place was foreign to me. Now I'm still working but I don't cry every night, I don't feel worthless and I finally think I can focus on me again. Just in time for my wedding!
I'm not sure if this description of 'depersonalisation' is accurate, especially in a mental health context. 'Depersonalisation' can refer to a disillusionment with the people around us, but in a psychological sense it refers specifcally to a dissociative sensation that is caused by prolonged heightened anxiety. I have Depersonalisation Derealisation Disorder and been chronically dissociated for over 7 years. I'm always keen to discuss and inform on it. I'm impressed by the rest of this video, but I just wanted to make sure this one qualm wasn't lost amongst all the other great points and advice.
I’m a mental health therapist and have been going non-stop since the pandemic. With burnout, I noticed a couple of days off here and there didn’t help. Restructuring my life so far has felt so reviving. I enjoy socializing again in my personal life! I decided to take break from doing therapy/my practice and work doing something non-therapy related in mental health. So far so good.
So glad to hear that you've found a remedy! What tips can you share about restructuring your life?
Im all these thing all the time for 15 years as a plumber. Hated it since day one but have bills to pay and mouths to feed. I figured I was just a weak asshole, shrugged it off and carried on. Every waking moment feels like a waste and I passively contemplate ending it all daily. I also figured that was just how everybody felt all the time because the culture at work is Macho and people never really talk about these things. Weird. Did a mindfullness meditation course and It was helpful but I still cant shake that nagging feeling that everything is completely futile, meaningless and that suffering is the rule rather than the exception. My curiosity keeps me alive so there's no real chance for self harm but If not for that I would have nipped life in the bud ages ago. I take virtually no joy in life 90% of the time and even when I'm not working I spend most of that time in fear of having to go back so even leisure time is wasted on work. Friday evening is the only time my mind feels free but by Saturday I'm already dreading Monday. What's the point of all this? I have made a great upper middle class lifestyle out of this but that comfort has seemingly no effect on my mindstate. Sometimes I feel moving into a tent in the woods and living a subsistence lifestyle would be less demeaning and stressful to my soul than this crushing modern lifestyle I can't seem to escape. There I go being weak again. Literally off to work after typing this.
feel your pain man. In my case, I had to focus on whats important to me. Friends and Family, without these 2 factors I would have been dead 8 years ago from burnout. Nothing seemed to matter, but Ive always thought of the image of my family and friends crying over me.
Got into a burn-out during the covid period. Working in a laboratory it really took a toll on me and my colleagues. Now 2,5 years later I’m still recovering.
I burned out, got laid off from work, employer made sure that I never got another job. Job search for more than 6 years itself created a chronic burnout which is beyond all definitions. It is a privilege to sit there and tell people what is the definition of burnout and what they should do. Let me add to their knowledge that there exists a next stage of burnout as well. It is when burnout persists for many years resulting in you becoming literally a dead person. You feed yourself the bare minimum, force yourself to only have the most basic life needs. You stop caring if you died the next moment, in-fact you develop such a wish. And funny thing is that it was done to me by such "academics" like herself.
I hope things get better for you.
In which field were you working in?
I hear you. When you lack the control to address the burnout, it turns out there’s another level beyond what you thought was bad. I called myself burned out throughout 2019, and then every year after that was a new level of feeling helpless and angry and utterly becalmed. I’m starting to get some motivation back, finally, slowly. I hope you can have the same, friend.
Things will get better. Keep Working on it. Never Stop. The process is the key.
Yeah, it makes me angry that when it comes to academic definitions, it's all just concerning work, when in reality, people can be burnt out from applying to jobs, from school, from being a carer for a family member, even from caring for their own health if they have chronic/many health issues
I think that everyone who worked through the whole pandemic, had to pick up all the responsibilities of the furloughed staff, then those positions were never hired back, and companies didn’t give pay increases… are all in a very advanced stage of burnout.
I have been trying to set better boundaries at work, have told my boss that I cannot continue to work 55+ hours a week, and must have time for myself, but every week that I don’t put the extra time in, I’m under so much stress about incomplete work, that I can hardly enjoy my free time. I feel angry and exhausted all the time, and ineffective. I know I’d actually be better at work if I could actually have a normal workload and have “me” time after work… but nothing changes and I don’t know what to do. I’ve threatened to quit if I don’t get help and a raise. Crossing my fingers that they sit up and take notice.
Though I don’t work nearly as many hours as you, I can relate. Since covid started, I’ve been trying to do the work of more than one person, and there being no end (no new staff) in sight… the thing that really gets me is that I love my job when I actually have enough hours to do it, or the right number of staff. I hate feeling like I’m doing a half-assed rush job all the time, letting down the people I’m supposed to be working with (I’m in healthcare). I set limits on how many hours a week I work, but the stress of untended requests sits very heavily. 🙁
A healthier diet is what helped me with emotional burn out. Also taking a blood test to know what vitamins i was lacking on also helped. Eat healthy, get some sun, and stay hydrated!
I burned out and luckily was in a position to leave my job amicably, but unemployment is rough. Sitting around all day not doing anything is a mode you can very easily fall into, and in a way can burn you out even more. Stay active, physically and mentally. I've started doing that recently and it's really helped.
I’m beyond the burnout stage at work and I’m getting worried now. I feel like I’m self-sabotaging so I can lose my job. It happened over the past couple of years. I was carrying a 161% client load. It’s about to change-we hired a couple more people in my position, but I’m not sure I’m going to make it. I’m exhausted.
Better speak up or you'll end in hospital
How's it going now?
This. Employers will push it as far as they can before investing in a proper amount of resources. Profit trumps people every time.
Hows your health now?
@@hkmarketingco I’m slowly getting better. The workload has eased up quite a bit. Still get triggered by certain things, but overall I just need to decide my path.
Thats not what, "depesonalisation," is. Also, lots of people dont have the means to access the resources needed to recover. Its called poverty and disadvantage.
Do it anyway
If enough of us die people will have to take notice
The Chinese call it bai lan
Right! I was literally thinking: This sounds like everyone who lives in the ghetto. 😏
I’m fortunate to not be in such dire straights anymore but for some people, this is a whole-life experience!
Lol yeah, what guess a cognitive psychologist from Yale know about this, right?
I think "Burnout" can manifest itself far, far, far... Beyond work. I believe society its self can also be a source of "Burn" out !
Yep, Robert Sapolsky notes that one of the surest ways to have way too much stress in your life is to be poor, especially if you are born poor. That’s why there is such a life expectancy gap between the classes.
What I learned from this is that broke people don't have the luxury for burn out.
This feels a little insane. Like, our societies have decided to aggressively ignore an ongoing pandemic of a SARS known to cause cognitive decline and immune dysregulation. We are barreling towards a climate change future of global food shortages and unlivable heat that will cause deaths and migration on a massive scale. And our jobs are almost entirely focused on trying to preserve a damaging status quo that funnels as much money as possible upwards to make the rich richer. How are we supposed to feel that our jobs are meaningful? Isn't depersonalization a natural consequence of social organization and outcomes? When the values of your entire economic system are aligned against the values of community care and human life, how are you supposed to emotionally conform to them to not burn out? Burnout isn't an individual phenomenon; it is a systemic and social sickness. And the prognosis isn't good.
I’ve worked in restaurant hospitality for the past 15 years. The last few years have been difficult for me and I had no way of confirming that what I’ve been experiencing is burnout until I watched this video. Especially the description of depersonalization. I’ve told a close friend recently that I’ve become a shell of who I used to be and it’s true. Thanks for this dose of gnosis. It’s time to reclaim myself 🙏🙌
Honestly if customers weren't unpleasant or rude I'd be far less burnt out. The other night a manager got cussed out for being "discriminatory" for simply stating our restaurant didn't have military discount, and couldn't tell them to leave because we're a corporate location and the higher ups are VERY "the customer is always right!"
Dealing with insane people and being unable to get away from them drains us heavily as humans are social creatures 🙁
Restaurant manager here. It’s beyond hard. I don’t even have the energy to figure out something else. I just got into a new company and it was cool at first but the location blew up and it’s now the hot-spot in the area. The demand is overwhelming and the amount of employees I’m in charge of is overwhelming. 50 people bugging me nonstop. I want to escape.
I would have liked a last piece about recovering from established long term burnout. This is the hardest, because the preventative measures probably still apply, but they take on the quality of more things you “are supposed to be doing” - more demands. My one criticism of the piece is that I think limiting burnout to work factors creates an incomplete picture. Personal demands can definitely play a role. Single moms is probably the most often cited, though in my case an elderly parent was the biggest factor.
The reason I got served this clip is that long term burnout is a big topic at the moment on the neurodivergent channels, ADHD and autism. Neurodivergence adds some tricky variables; it certainly can make you more vulnerable to burnout, and certain neurodivergent traits strongly resemble the symptoms of burnout, which makes untangling what is a result of what that much harder. Not least because some of the traits that resemble burnout may in fact come from experiencing the causes of burnout throughout all areas of a neurodivergent person’s life. These days, this type of ongoing stress is often misattributed as trauma, and I appreciate that this piece talks about stress as a root. I do feel a need to clarify one last thing about that, however: burnout as an outcome is distinguishable from stress, but it flows from persistent stress. If you are trying to preempt burnout, it’s very important not to fall into looking at your situation and going “it’s just stress.” There’s nothing “just” about stress. No one can live a stress free life, just as no one can avoid being exposed to any carcinogens. But too much of either too constantly is likely to lead to health problems, and in the case of stress, those problems are often mental health related. Alas, the concerns often get applied only to whether you have a heart attack or a stroke. But many of us can tell you that breakdowns can be debilitating too. Persistent stress does damage to all systems, especially the prefrontal cortex. It is long past time for business and society to stop pretending that “what does not kill us makes us stronger.”
I had to retire early due to burnout. Took a hit financially but there just was no way I could continue working in the field of public education.
I’m just finally recovering from a burnout. Had to quit a dream job and take three months off to become myself again. Wow, so many of these symptoms I didn’t realize were caused by it, like the depersonalization.
Lovely video and explanation.
Primary caregivers like moms feel this too.
the culture in Corporate America is probably a big cause of burnout. I worked for 6 years in Asia and colleagues there, tend to get friendly with time. Some of my good friends are my colleagues from my first job. And then I moved to America and colleagues are just cold and tend to switch out of their work personalities at 5 pm. And workplace conversations are just about work, which is why colleagues remain colleagues.
absolutely. when my workplace (european corp but the asia company office) basically still left the country offices alone, even though my team was a virtual team across southeast asia, we got to meet about once or twice a year, and we were globally among the best teams for the seamless teamwork and camaraderie. i still catch up with some of them years later whenever i’m in their countries. today, when they try to exert more control over the department and more of the north american culture is dominant over the whole global team whereas we’re no longer allowed to get together as a regional team, it all evaporated. north american way of fostering trust in a team is by making normal human cooperation into an acronymised concept. and then instead of literally just being a genuine friend to your colleagues so that you understand why they might be struggling or snippy, and therefore have a real team culture, you tell staff they should respond to the situation by saying their behaviour “is a lemon” and that’s supposed to be a non confrontational way of reminding them it isn’t helpful or welcome and they should stop it. and somehow the north americans think this is a fantastic idea - the rest of us can’t see how that helped the person with the behaviour grow since all it seems to do is pressure them to repress and internalise it. but hey the north americans are by far the majority now, so no one says anything for fear we’ll be told we are doing a lemon! 👏🏼 fantastic idea to make sure nobody in the team ever says how they really feel!
we're not allowed to talk about life and general stuff at work. it's the "time to lean, time to clean" culture. work is slavery in north american capitalism. if you aren't going at 100% 100% of the time you will be punished or at least it will reflect badly upon you in the eyes of management and they will hold it against you. the humanity of workers is disrespected and spit on constantly. poverty wages, no time off, no pensions. you're supposed to work until you drop dead on the shop floor; if you didn't already die last night sleeping on the street because you can't afford even the shittiest one bedroom.
After a life time of working, doing my best, working nights, weekends, really working hard, I always got a below average assessment from my bosses, no matter where I worked, what job I had, how hard I worked, how smart I worked, I always always always fell short. I felt it was useless for me to try anymore but yet, I had to work or I'd starve. I feel I cannot ever please an employer no matter what the job, career, task. So YES I'm burned out. I HATED working. Thank GOD I retired. I didn't think I could but after talking to a financial advisor, I found I could. So, GOOD BYE WORK WORLD. I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so burnt out that I have all the symptoms described in the video. At the end of my last job, I cried even when I was assigned to some small simple tasks which I would have no problem with. I don't want to talk to my coworkers anymore outside of work. I go berserk when someone wastes my time at work, I used to have a better control on my temper before that. I lost almost all of my compassion for others because I am busy with my self-pitying. I don't even feel happy when I get a raise because I felt like shit and my project has no progress at all, which makes me feel anxious constantly, even though my performance was praised by the manager. After quitting I still felt anxious and overwhelmed, because I need to find another job and I can't find one.
Can understand
Hi everyone! I know you all think work is so important and “you can’t miss a day” but if you don’t take a break, your body will take the break for you. I spent a week in the hospital from having a seizure after being clinically burnt out. Tread realllll lightly folks.
Fam. I can so relate. Was on 3 straight weeks off work for sick leave treatment and recuperation. Pneumonia mainly but fatigue that led to low immunity was the main trigger.
That's awful. It has so many different ill effects on the brain, body and spirit that you don't even notice how quickly and viciously it's hitting you until it completely pulls you under. Amongst other thrilling treats, my grand prize is a stress-induced ulcer, yayyy. I resent this. I dread returning to work on Monday after 4 weeks of prescribed leave. I do not feel any better at all...
Sabbatical?! Who can afford it? I understand it can help a lot, but only a few can do it.
I thought these were just the symptoms of adulthood
pretty much
If you live in the US, yes.
The man silhouette in the thumbnail looks like Jair Bolsonaro lmao
great resignation is fantastic response to be on that "verge of burnout" in my opinion. If you don't feel valued and appreciated, before you lose your own sense of value and let yourself be wounded, just runaway. You'll find someplace else, they'll find someone else. Nobody can be asked to sacrifice themselves or their health for a project. Because without your health you can't work and you'll have no income to put a roof over your head or food on your plate.
A good part of the burn out comes from societal issues. Another part comes from the way one personality reacts to the environment You may try to change external causes .. you can also try to modify the way you react to things..sometimes safety is in leaving the hostile environment you are in .
100%
Love this ❤
I’m trying mightily to do just that. I’ve been in burn out for so long though (years….years….years [Jim Halpert voice]), that in order to do what it takes to pull myself out and change the opportunities I qualify for I have to go beyond burn out…whatever that is. ☄️
There's quite a few comments saying not everyone can afford to go on sabbatical, which is true. However, what we CAN do, is really invest in ...making sure to get good rest every night...go out to your local park when the weather is nice, and enjoy the day, it's Free!...also, invest in social activities that you CAN afford. If you can't afford to go to the bar, have some friends over, and have an old school house party, if it's your thing. There's so many ways to let go, and have fun, as well as peace and quiet that are free, or lowered cost, and time. I started doing this about 10 yrs ago. I started treating my Friday's like it's the last day of school before summer...that alone really refocused my personal time in a Big way. Every weekend feels like summer break, and it's really changed my life😅 It really is the simple things that matter, and you can have it more often than you may realize.🥂💃
American society is exhausting. Going under anesthesia for a colonoscopy was the most peaceful time of my life and I literally cried when I woke up
Where I’m from there’s really no help for that type of stuff, best thing to do is drink ( what most do in the area ). Used to work 12-13 hour work days for minimum wage and didn’t have days off so yeah booze is a friend sometimes when burnout happens
But what if in fact there are structural constraints that keep you from being effective? I didn’t burn out (I 100% was clinically burned out) the job changed over time to make it actually impossible to do well. But I reject that I was the one at fault. It wasn’t a lack of self care or some fault in my mental health, it was the structure of my job! I’m a teacher who took early retirement last year.
That’s just a toxic work environment. I’m going into my third year teaching, and I think I understand what you are saying. It’s really difficult to keep a work/life balance. Heck, I feel like a lot of the kids are experiencing burnout, but the fact is they don’t usually have to work.
If you're in an environment where you CAN'T succeed, the answer is to move on. If you're in this situation, and you don't realize the this quickly enough - that's a recipe for burnout.
sounds like they did quiet hiring (giving an employee more responsibilities without additional pay)
As a fellow educator contemplating leaving the field, I relate strongly to what you've said here.
And as a fellow educator who retired last year I understand.
I was researching on emotional exhaustion last night and frankly, none of it was appealing. However, "finding your identity outside of work" gave me something to ponder upon. Thanks 🙂
Another video dumping social problems on individuals. Just on more resilience or self care video and people should be fixed and everything will suddenly work
I have been through a burnout I really did hit rock bottom I wasn't able to work for 7 months straight. Don't ignore the early sighns it's a serious thing and YOU come first not any type of job. Cause at the end of the day a workplace can just replace you with someone else at least you put yourself first and take care of yourself ❤
I wish my parents felt this way. I've literally BEGGED them to quit for YEARS, espec lately, but they won't let me and get mad at me about 'being lazy' and 'just can't handle the pressure/stress' that they claim is 'my fault anyway'. Just got a massive lecture yesterday. It REALLY sucks! It's gotten to the point that I've started with they'd die just so I can get some peace! ;A;
I will gladly be a psychotherapist and have patients pay me to seek help.
I will help them by telling to every one of them this same solution "What do you think you can do to help yourself?"
Credits to my psychothreapist who gave me the same help which I paid for.
Lol this is so disproportionally out of touch with reality. We are poor. We can't afford therapy and proper care. I'm from Latin America btw. Not even public Healthcare or public universities have good mental Healthcare programs that could help people. In my case I'm autistic and ADHD, and it's hard as fuck to find care for adults like me even if you have the money because everyone treats kids only. Most people are too busy to make ends meet, we can't afford to save our minds.
Sadly I’m learning that’s largely the case even in richer countries with national health care. Adults with autism and ADHD mostly have few options unless they can pay...and even then there are long waits. I would guess it’s even worse where you are though.
Sometimes burnout isn’t so much about workload, but the nature of your tasks. When they are not as meaningful as you’d like them to be, when that feeling becomes overwhelming and causes emotional exhaustion, lack of purpose, lack of reward.
The use of the word Depersonalization in this video is completely off from its original meaning.
Sounds like being an educator in the public school system.
I HATE that she only framed burnout within the context of work
I appreciate that you go right to the elements of burnout and then move on to the factors behind those elements without some long drawn out introductory history taking up space until you get to the point. Thank you. Well done.
Every teacher around the world is feeling this.
Correction: every good teacher who got into teaching to make a difference and not to enjoy a small power trip.
I had to quit for my mental health. Maybe there's another type of job out there for me but being in a classroom isn't it. I'm in South Asia, burnout happened for so many people here in the aftermath of Covid.
EXACTLY
I think most people are burned out from just living now a days.
Experienced burnout before years ago. Took a long sabbatical. Got a job I like but now, I'm on the verge of a burnout again. I remember the signs and the feelings with it. This video reminded me that I only can establish the boundary for work-life balance when others try to push it.
Doing the same thing over the days, weeks, and years even if you liked it at the begging after a while you just think that you should be doing something else and from my personal perspective it is worst when is a sedentary work. Also, the feeling that you cannot really stop doing this because you need the income these things are not cured with a book or sudden motivation.
I support call center operations and deal with 100's of requests from associates a day. I have no capacity to care and want to help. Every single request from associates or from my team members feels like I'm being imposed upon. I used to feel the desire to take on a little extra to help the team, but now that feeling is completely gone and I fear I am perceived as a mean slacker by my team. I have no energy for things I used to enjoy and barely manage to take care of myself and my home. I don't feel like I'm living my life anymore.
imagine getting so well paid that you can afford to take a WHOLE YEAR of rest
Actually, I believe that many sabbaticals are paid. Sometimes you have a specific project you are supposed to be working on, like a book. Sometimes you are a resident at another school. I think maybe sometimes it’s mostly just a break. At least that’s the way it used to work...I never got to do this but my wife used to houseclean for people who did...college town.
I’ve come to the conclusion that the way to respond to people with favorable working conditions is to be glad for them, but recognize that others deserve the same options. (I’m not talking about the Bezos or Musks; no one needs a mega yacht or a social media company as your vanity platform.) We are in the end game with productivity...25 years ago, gains were easy because the PC made so many things faster. Now it’s blood from a stone, with frontline workers being the stone. Time to repudiate the Friedmanesque economic theories that have dominated the global ecomony for almost 50 years.
Oh, when I hear people talk about taking a sabbatical it really just pisses me off. Must be freaking nice to have all your ducks in a row all your bills pay everything perfectly where you can just stay six weeks three months, six months off and not have to work. That is not the case for majority of humans.
Ugh, I went from caregiver burnout to compassion fatigue about 3 years ago, and isolation and getting to a safer situation has been obstructed as I continue to overwork myself in order to push through
As all the comments seem to already observe, these silly concepts like "burnout" (ok, not silly per se, but usually in how it is presented) only serve to normalize American business and capitalisms artificial enforcement of scarcity. I recommend David Graeber's talk on here about "bullshit jobs", in which he discusses how feasible a 15 hour work week is (very), and the social consequences of artificially employing people doing nothing but killing time. These videos kill me. We cannot separate social science from mental health any longer. Yes, social workers etc are crucial in times where we need not revolution, but a simple support mechanism to get back on our feet. But this is no world to stand in, because you stand only to take more blows, and doing so repeatedly constitutes for us our self hatred, not some need for a damn vacation. Herbert Marcuse called his concept of revolt "the great refusal," which I think explains itself pretty nicely; and we can refuse modernity's sick socio-logic by criticizing videos like this one for normalizing abusive regimes and economic structures. S/o all my sane homies in the comments feeling the same.
This is me as a nurse. I’m 15 years in and some point during Covid I feel like something left my body. I was ICU nursing the entire pandemic. My soul was sucked out of me and I have yet to recover.
Have you recovered yet? SOunds like your have severe troubles within your body.
I’m so thankful that in Europe you can take sick leave if you are burned out. And the doctor’s note just says “due to illness” and doesn’t mention burnout which protects employee from backlash that they are somehow weak or sick in the head or something (I know some employers are wild out there).
In my last job I felt burnout basically every day, but I couldn't quit because I have a small child and live in an area with limited opportunities. I was there for 7 years.
I think burnout will become only more prevalent. Partly due to the workload, but even more significantly due to no longer accepting all the rubbish that goes on in the workplace. And that doesn't involve just the usual office gossip, but more profoundly what each industry actually means to the human race and the planet.
I took a break after years of saving for it but now the problem is the opposite. I now have zero interest on going back and wasn't even sure that I have the capacity to go back.
How you act during the sabbatical is also important and only take a break if you have a clear plan on what's next.
I thought I had plans but they're mostly ideas that bounced off my head. My learning is that I should've had a fixed time and should've set my plans into action before I even went on a break.
We need to change the language here describing burnout. Constatnly referring to "job" or "work" negates those who are suffereing form burnout due to life circumstances. So yes an unpaid "job" like caring for sick loved ones is a "job" nonethelss it isn't a choice. That lack of choice in your direction adds another dimension to burnout. So while people can comit to a career that leads them to burnout, others have to work at a "job" and have demands beyond the norm outside of working, like caring for sick or special needs people in their lives and that is a whole other level of burnout. The reference to unfairness in the video touches on an important point, often the lack of control and with no reward is draining.
Yes , it’s the modern world demands , frustration, revolting phone queues, being controlled, being talked down too, 40 mins -2 hours waits when your trying to sort things out. Low paid workers and disabled. It’s toxic ness from bosses treating staff like robots. DWP bullying low paid, trying to get things fixed that do t work. Everyone judging each other. I have adhd autism . And everything else, but then we get bullied out of work so people can’t recover. This is psyops and socially engineered in uk. Stop treating workers like robots. Misplacing disabled people and expecting same workloads iff them and same re older workers expected to do the same as a 20 year old. Thing is if people are tired stressed and actually don’t have outside of work time they don’t do these things. Manual workers who don’t drive have no life really.
@JesusIsTheSonOfGod-kc3pz I’m not interested. I’m not a great sinner . That’s the rich lol you need to repent using fake stuff to preach and live off
@JesusIsTheSonOfGod-kc3pz death isn sun it’s in everything lol it’s nature. Look at your own sins before trolling people who have said we aren’t interested.
@@AutisticAwakeActivist Religion prevents some people from burning out.
Jesus keeps people out of the hospital, AND, anxiously whining autistic people burn me out…
Potential solutions on a societal scale?
30hr workweeks, 3day weekends. Automate as many jobs as possible and give everyone a Universal Basic Income and Universal Healthcare not tied to a job.
The USA was almost the first country to implement a 30hr workweek(see Black/Connery Bill). Pres FDR said not doing it was one of his major regrets. That was almost 100 years ago. We should be reducing the work hours and giving people more freedom and free time as we automate jobs. It’s long overdue.
A sabbatical sounds awesome. But who is able to do that nowadays???
This exactly describes all emergency personnel. In addition to working unusual shifts, covering all times of the day and week, the stresses of dealing with emergent healthcare drastically increase the speed of the onset of burnout.
Love that for you but the majority of people can't take a sabbatical. The majority of the people need to work to survive and that's ultimately an issue that comes from the way things work in this modern day and age and we can't be made responsible for fixing ourselves when the way our work environments function is wrong.
This hit me right in the stomach. It's a relief to hear it described by a professional.
👎I have no degree or neither am I doctor of any kind. But in my opinion I don't agree with these definitions. When I talk to others about burnout which I've gotten quite a bit (ask anyone in design or marketing) they usually talk about the exhaustion of not being able to care of yourself. For example, working on a project for so long that you haven't showered, haven't had time to do any hobbies, and missed family events and on Monday you still gotta go in and get more stuff on your plate. That's burntout there's no other emotions other than anger, you're just angry you gotta work this hard to keep your job and make someone richer than you. That's the state I've found plenty of people in...I do agree with the rewards part, it adds to it. These signs/definitions sound more like depression then burnout..again burnout is the point where you can't sleep properly because your job/responsibilities are hunting you = you can't take care of yourself. I'm sorry but I just can't agree with these signs, I know she talks about stress and burnout being different but I they've evolved in today's era. I'll try to look at the studies but to me these don't make sense.
So the answer to burnout is to do even more stuff?
I actually do a lot of stuff as far as hobbies and spending time with people who aren’t co-workers. I’ve never staked my identity in my job because I’ve never had a job that has anything to do with who I feel I am. The tech companies and education debt zapped my chances of engaging my talents and interests for steady, existence-sustaining income generation.
I’m completely burned out and very lonely. I was fired by my therapist, so I pack my non-work hours with activities I enjoy, eschew things I don’t enjoy (aka cleaning domicile) and just hope my human existence terminates soon.
No amount of copium or sabbaticals can address the issue of modern society being a productivity machine, where human nature clashes with human greed.
We live in an age of post-accountability. A person might spend years in prison for a minor offence, whilst big league traders and companies get let off with a slap on the wrists or a fine that is mere percentages of their profits.
Young people strive to be influencers, advertisements are bombarding us from the second we wake up, Big Brother is watching and we're all just drifting along, pressured and discouraged by the unnatural feel of it all.
TLDR, but that's my personal experience with burning out.
"So I took a sabbatical"... Me, a working class person in a third world country: "Am i a joke to you?"
Come on.. what that mentality you'll always be a third world country worker
3 symptoms of burnout:
0:31 - Emotional exhaustion
1:01 - Depersonalization/cynicism
1:28 - Personal ineffectiveness
"Depersonalization can consist of a detachment within the self, regarding one's mind or body, or being a detached observer of oneself. Subjects feel they have changed and that the world has become vague, dreamlike, less real, lacking in significance or being outside reality while looking in. It can be described as feeling like one is on “autopilot” and that the person's sense of individuality or selfhood has been hindered or suppressed"
This is what depersonalisation feels like, I've been through this myself. The autopilot part is really how it feels like, or like looking at your life through glass, being an observer.
Puting depersonalisation and being cynical or on a short fuse and labeling as the same is just wrong.
My favorite part of being burnt out is having a 2300 dollar a month rent and 750 in student loans that make any kind of career or lifestyle change impossible. I definitely do not want to die!
Meanwhile quit quitting is everywhere because nobody feels like their valued or is payed what their owed regardless of how much they give. Our success is most often than not, not in our hands. We rely on others to elevate us to where we wanna go, and today hard work is not rewarded. So we become pissed off, cynical, depressed, nihilistic.
For me? Its pissed off, because ive always stood everyone up regardless of lvl of experience or qualification without feeling like its hard in every working environment ive been in, and yet im tired of petty, insignificunts who wont move asside because their ego or delusions cant handle it. So i distance myself from society because people make me tired, i dont deal with slackers or anyone who cant keep up. I think allot of young people are tired of old methods, traditions, amd our fates decided by the older generations who dumped their problems onto us and then have the audacity to call us weak. Like yeah its my fault i cant afford a house when you could at my age. Russia, Japan even South Africa, and more, the youth are subject to decisions made by their older peers that hinder our lives. Hence we are all so fked in the head these days.
I hate the phrase quiet quitting...as usual struggle and attempts to find work life balance are characterized as moral failings. Can’t those selfish workers puhLEEZE think of the long suffering billionaires struggling to afford their third mega yacht?
Yeah, every generation I’ve seen has been screwed in lots of ways, but yours is stuck with the disintegration of the planet and a spectacular gilded age. You can feel pissed with my blessing.
I appreciated that there wasn't very much background music. It is so anxiety producing. This was nice that there wasn't too much background music. Thank you for your video.
Why do I feel like I get burnout so bad that I hit a wall every 6 months now... I just feel like when my life was simpler, it wasn't as bad.