@missriverlady... exactly correct. People who seek power, control, and coin are usually the least capable of commanding those things ethically. Carl Sagan constantly refused the idea of "pursuing high offices" or "becoming a governor". In hindsight, he was probably the most capable of being an effective leader out of almost anyone else one could've suggested. Same with F.M. Rogers, to some extent.
@@gravity00x Well, SOMEONE has to coordinate things, and some people are DRIVEN to do just that… for their own gain… it would be harder to get more moral people to take these positions, which they would find stressful because they would care what effect their actions had on others. So the cheapest path of least resistance is also the one that wrecks everything for everyone. But that’s why it happens that way! 😵💫
*EDIT: Thank you for your overwhelming love. Yes, it is true that my father has some emotions that drove him, so maybe it is a different condition* My father has pychopathy. He never let it effect his family except for tiny, hidden, isolated pockets. When someone you love suddenly acts like something out of a nightmare, and you can't explain it, and they go back to being normal after... And you're a child. You repress that shit. Over and over. I was in my late 30s when it all starting coming back out of me. When I confronted the rest of my family I realized that they had all been warped by him and 'forgiven' him. No one will acknowleged what he did to us, so I had to walk away from my family. What's worse is I know he hurt other people. Maybe more than that. But I can't prove any of it. I'm complete lost and I have no idea what to do. And yes, I am under the care of a mental health expert, that was my first move because the memories seemed so impossible.
Does he know he has it, or is that your guess? One of the major researchers on Psychopathy found out HE was a Psychopath via brain scans. Once he did, he modified his behaviors because he understood intellectually how some of what he did was harmful. You have to understand though, that if is is a Psychopath, it's not his fault. He was born that way. Taking it personally or expecting different is like expecting someone without legs to walk normally. It's impossible. Just like it is impossible for your father to change brain structures. Maybe if you look at your memories under the lens that he was not choosing to behave that way it will help. It's the difference between someone smacking you with a branch in anger, and a branch simply falling on you. Both hurt, but the one from the tree does not also hurt you emotionally. Your dad is simply a tree. I hope that helps.
@@shakeyj4523 My father experimented with the edges of human experience. Water boarding especially. He knew he was causing harm. It facinated him. No I don't hold him accountable the same way. My brain can barly process this level of betrayal anyways.
But what if someone is questioning being one? When I was young I self-diagnosed as one because I thought I had traits (I'm not actually one), but I wasn't worried about being one, I didn't really see anything bad with being one actually (I do have a tendency to look at everything with an impartial view). But I was still wondering a lot.
@@existentialchaos8A lot of autistic people have some mild to moderate to severe ASPD comorbidity. So if you say you didn't care you might still have very low on the spectrum ASPD. It's not normal, even for autism spectrum, to not care when you fantasize about torturing other humans and ending their lives.
My brother is a psycopath, as was my father. But my brother is much worse. After my other siblings died, he tricked me and my mum, we believed he loved us and the problem was his wife. In reality it was him, he had a plan and made us homeless without a penny. My mum in wheelchair and I was 18 without studies. He used our grief to get his hands on all the money.
“Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid.” I don't know what else to say.
In my family it’s my mother and brother who are psychopaths. My brother is also much worse. Buy my mother supports my brothers evil games. They stole my part of the inheritance and spread lies to my disability insurance, so they won’t pay me any disability money. I was also almost homeless, but could solve the issue with the disability insurance. It’s hell on earth with psychopaths in your own family.
People will say "how do you know someone has a personality disorder if they haven't been diagnosed?" Well, because we suffer with them, and they harm us before they get help. We are the ones who let them know they aren't well in the head before a mental health professional does. We lived it.
Alot of people here just self-diagnose people though, simply because someone was cruel or uncaring or manipualtive or narcissistic to them. even just a partner who was an asshole to them or didn't love them That's simply wrong and I don't think it's good idea to assume people in your life are just irreversibly and clinically "bad". My father is a clinically diagnosed narcissist, he also was cruel to me at times. I know how that feels. But hadn't I known better I'd have self-diagnosed him as a psycho as well ... and would have been wrong.
@@sblbb929 Honestly, it doesn't matter whether the self-diagnosis is correct. Only thing that matters is the suffering. Apart from the fact, that all of it is on a spectrum and overlaps are also possible. Not to mention that even the diagnostic manuals are regularly reworked on the subject.
@@amerubix185 Personality disorders cause harm to the one who suffers from it, if the person does not suffer from it, its NOT a disorder. People can be just bad and evil people without any disorder, because being evil or bad has nothing to do with having disorder, expect the fact people WITH certain disorders, seem to be bad or evil often.
Even saying someone has disorder just because they are cruel is undermining the cruelity itself. "No, he isnt bad person, he just has *insert self diagnosed disorder*"
Flaws in society make it easy for psychopaths to blend in. Specifically how society promotes competition and dominance hierarchies. Sports culture, the educational system, celebrity worship and capitalism all allow psychopaths & sociopaths to thrive. Cut throat competition is rewarded and the people who are successful at competition are the people most socially rewarded and romantically desirable.
Yup. In a nutshell, humanity can be easily summarized by: "if you ain't rich, then you ain't sheet. And if you ain't first, then you don't matter". If you want to "win", you must CRUSH everyone and everything beneath your boots. 💪😎✌️ No exceptions. That's mankind's most methodical methods over the millenia.
I'd argue that they're the ones that forged out those places for themselves in society. Psychopaths coming into power which means a higher ability to change social norms
@@RayneNikole Yep, psychopaths have no place in a culture with egalitarian values. It's not much of a secret that the most powerful people are sociopaths, malignant narcissists, or psychopaths, in positions that don't require ethics or morals. Even if they aren't with those disorders, the power, materialism, and insulation will make you one.
Also how people praise emotionless, calm and calculated people over the emotional ones in political and other discussions. I've been ciritized so many times by pears for discussing too emotionally, hence being the wrong one.
I worked for a psychopathic manager for 10-years, but didn't understand him as such until later, after researching his behaviors. My gut told me there was something different (unwelcoming or similar) about him from my first day on the job. Over the years there were many instances where his behavior made no sense or was unduly confrontational with others. Near the end of my time working for him I started questioning him about this or that action. Bad idea. He turned on me as I had seen him turn on a number of other people over the past years: with cool, calculated and unrelenting cruelty. It's truly hard to imagine how psychopaths operate if you aren't one. Ordinary people just don't think that way.
I had a psychopathic boss but he was mostly in a good mood beause the company was new and OH MY GOD could he sell..he'd sit down and make 1/2 million in a few hours. Nobody could touch him because he simply didn't care if the customer woudl be stuck with the stuff and pushed into bankruptcy,
@user-hv6gt1nm4d He had other traits that went to the extreme. He kept everyone on the team off balance, suspecting each other of being in his confidence, and creating chaos in general. He's give orders before leaving town then grill people for having followed them when he returned, claiming he'd never given those instructions. People would look at each other with WTF eyes and deal with it. My story is that I didn't understand anything about such behaviors until he and I had parted company. I was damaged by his treatment of me and wanted to know what brought it to such a high level of cruelty. In my research I found he ticked all of the boxes for psychopathy but not sociopathy. He was too cool, too self-controlled, emotionally violent toward others but not physically.
As someone who suffers with extreme severe anxiety I can totally relate to her. I would stop eating for days at a time as a punishment. I worry a lot about my life, everyone around me and pleasing everyone. It's absolutely crippling, so glad she got the help she needed, lovely young lady it's so sad that society has 1 in 3 people suffering mental health issues. I hope everyone seeks help
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I was with an antisocial on and off for five years. The takeaway for me was; listen to your intuition and how your stomach feels around an individual. I used to always get a nervous stomach around him. I thought it was love and attraction, but as time went by I realized it was my internal alarm system letting me know something was off. Observe and accept the actions of the individual. Don’t stay mired in fancy words and daydreams. Be honest with yourself about their behaviors. If you see that they mistreat others, but are kind towards you, realize that eventually they will also treat you poorly. Unfortunately, people who have these dark traits can also be very intelligent, charming, funny, interesting and seem to have compelling reasons for why they engage in bad behaviors. The mask is simply a tool they use to manipulate and predate others. What is behind the mask is the truth. They cannot show who they really are behind the mask because they know who they are is socially unacceptable. Trust your instincts with these individuals and get away from them as quickly as possible in a safe manner.
You summed up what I went through with a few narcissistic and toxic relationships. I need to review and analyze my own family and exactly what happened to me as a child and my conclusions were that it’s necessary to go no contact regardless if they felt that they needed to do that to me. I have my own narrative about how I’ve been treated in the past and it’s up to me to stop it and stay away from individuals that think it’s ok to bully, manipulate or control someone else. I only have less than a handful of toxic people that I have to deal with and my educating myself is helping me when I have to communicate. I’d rather not but sometimes the other person just won’t leave me alone and I know why. These toxic individuals have to have someone to abuse in order to play the victim, it doesn’t matter if you don’t participate because the weird wiring going on in their brain they are delusional and think that you are participating when you’re not. Thank you for sharing what I’ve been thinking.
To me, it was a strong headache. Every time I was around her, I would expect her to get angry at me out of nowhere. There was never an interaction where she didn't get angry at me. I tried to end things several times, and I KNEW something was off, but she would almost always manage to reel me back in. I would tell her that we didn't get along, that we didn't have a connection, that there were other people for us, etc. But she would always do something like tell me to hang out at Starbucks, go shopping with her at Walmart, invite me over for dinner, send me flirtatious messages. I never actually had a meaningful conversation with her the 6 months this lasted. Things didn't end well for me. I ended up blocking her everywhere I could and it took me probably another 6 months for me to get back to normal. The only thing that really still bothers me was that I knew she was off, based on her temperament, the way she treated everyone, and the things she said to manipulate me (honestly the worst part was that it made feel uneasy how the things she said never matched the way she acted). The thing that bothered me the longest was feeling shame for how I let her treat me poorly and not being assertive about it. I blocked her and never read any of her messages again because it scared me how despite the constant anger, criticism and manipulation made me feel horrible, she still managed to keep me hooked somehow.
When I first started getting into recovery, I couldn't feel what I thought everyone seemed to feel and felt didn't share the connection others appeared to have and t thought I might be a psychopath. When I asked my psychiatrist, they told me psychopaths don't care about being psychopaths.
It depends on the psychopath, a tetrad, or extremely narcissistic one - which most are, would care… Because if they were known as a psychopath within their community, they may not be able to manipulate and deceive people as well. So they would care. Therapists, psychotherapists, psychologists… Who don’t understand it fully, Spew a bunch of jargon and superficial rhetoric like “psychopaths don’t care if they’re psychopaths”. When someone uses bumper sticker rhetoric like that - I would be skeptical as to their comprehension of anything. I wouldn’t trust most of them.
@@BB-fo5mr Nah, psychopaths really don't care. I had two parents and one diagnosed girlfriend...the abuse they covertly heaped on me is astounding. And zero remorse or guilt is so extreme I actually fogive them because that is NOT normal at all...i have borderline and can be friends with psychopaths in crime but always have to dsimiss myself when i see they are getting out of hand..and they always do..because they jsut don't care..even about going to prison themselves. They don't care about anything except what's shiny, new, rich, gorgeous, etc. in front of them..like a dog.
indeed. the fact that you worried about being truly psychopathic shows that you aren't. it is possible to adopt those tendencies as neurotypicals, i believe, but it's most likely for survivability, which no one should be blamed for if that's the case.
@@stoneneils keep in mind there's a difference between caring about being a psychopath and caring about appearing as a psychopath. I'd assume if you're intelligent and a psychopath, you might not realize or care about being a psychopath specifically, but you might still want to not appear deranged to those around you as that generally would undermine your social position. Of course there might be utility in being perceived as a psycopath as well. Another thing to keep in mind is that the psychopath's that have been studied aren't representative of the entire group as it has been mostly criminals. It's extremely likely that most psychopaths aren't even noticed if we assume blending in is advantageous to their goals/interests, which means the only group that does end up noticed is the portion whose goals it doesn't benefit.
It’s interesting that we describe psychopathy as a disorder. I think of disorders as things that, if you have them, you suffer because of them. Things like depression or schizophrenia are obvious disorders. But with psychopathy, the suffering it creates is primarily in other people. Of course you can argue that a life with low empathy is unfulfilling, but it’s really not the sort of unmistakable personal suffering of depression or schizophrenia. It seems like psychopathy is defined as a disorder from society’s perspective, an interpersonal perspective, whereas disorders in general are typically defined from an intrapersonal perspective. The locus of suffering is in two different places.
The clinical definition of disorder simply refers to traits that deviate from the "normal" population, rather than whether the trait itself is positive or negative.
I think my mom is very altruistic, and I think she raised us to be very altruistic as well. I‘m personally trying to distance myself a bit from this altruism, because I think it brought me more pain than goodness. To give some examples: during my student days I empatized with a homeless guy that much that I made an appointment with him two days later to give him even more money (20 CHF, which was a lot for me at age 15). Or I lost a part of my friends group trying to socially integrate a pretty toxic guy. Altruism can be really rewarding, but at a certain level its pretty stressful to feel responsible for everyone. So I wouldnt frame extreme altruism as a state which we should personally be aming for. It can be rewarding, but not in contrast to the effort you will put in (depending on where you are at the spectrum).
I don't think she ever said it was something to aim for. Of course what you are leaving out is that if everyone was like you, your experience would be much different.
I worked for a psychopath (sorry someone with psychopathy) for 8 years. It was bleeding obvious to me and most people that worked for him that he was some sort of psychopath (we debated whether it was borderline personality or psychopathy). He had major temper control problems and an extreme lack of empathy (I suspect it was both). Most people left after a year or two, I was the longest serving employee at 8 years. He would go into a major rage if you didn't do things exactly as he asked, however he would then change his mind and decide the way he had asked you to do it was wrong and would have a major rage at you for doing things the exact way he asked, he was big into gas lighting like that. He also liked to send you on wild highly unproductive goose chases. I eventfully quit and went into competition with him (I've had my own rail modelling consultancy for the last 8 years). He used to have about 12 people working for him now he is down to 3. I am doing really well - I tolerated 8 years of high stress and constantly being raged at but it lead me to learning my current trade (rail modelling) which has given me my current high income and I now subcontract to a guy (effectively my boss) who I got on really, really well with. 8 years of hell followed by 8 years of heaven.
I had a doctor that was likely a psychopath ½ a decade ago.He was very robotic & unemotional and he liked to try to gaslight his patients likely to feel powerful....He also couldn't keep good employees at his clinic & it ended up becoming a very toxic place that I was quite glad to get out of once I changed doctors after not too long.He seemed disappointed when I didn't take the bait when he was trying to get a fearful response from me when he mentioned about how bad the pandemic was going to be....I just got done with my tele-health visit with him & cheerfully said goodbye😁👍🏻.
@@MsThe90 my father is a psychopath. Also my brother and sister. I feel you. I’m still learning how deep the scars go. Some people don’t want to do the work to heal - and I support them if that’s how they feel. It’s more than anyone can imagine. Besides, the problem was never with us. Surviving it as a child with even one shred of identity left is more epic a feat than we can imagine. People just don’t know.
@@nunyabusySurprised you somehow made it out alive with not one, but THREE PSYCHOPATH CLOSE FAMILY MEMBERS. Don't psychopaths like to off of people that AREN'T like them and KNOW what THEY ARE? Leave no witnesses while indulging in the bored psychopath need for torture at the same time?
My dad is a psychopath. All of the definitions, in this video, he fits. He ruined my and my sister’s childhood. It took a long, long time for me to find a life that was independent from his destruction. I haven’t talked to him in 26 years. Since that time, I’ve not only recovered but have started to thrive. I have a successful business and long term friendships. Nonetheless, even though I’m now middle aged, my dad continues to be the most destructive and evil person I’ve ever met.
Me too. I escaped from my father with psychopathy four years ago. I had to also go no contact with my mom and three siblings because they were so well trained to give him what he wanted they could not protect me and my personal information and would become targets to be used as a way to hurt me. Destruction of the family and family members was our family activity. No one leaves their family unless it’s completely necessary. Family is just too important to being a human. Thanks for sharing your success story. I’m thriving since I got away. But still trying to build up a social network. Me and my two dogs stick together though. And we’re gonna make it.
I believe that there is a neural psycho chemical explanation for psychopathy that is attributable to either environmental or genetic abnormalities. My mother divorced my father when I was three; she told me later that it was because his personality had changed when he was in the Korean war. I can personally attest to his psychopathic behavior. He as much as confessed to killing his girlfriend because she would not get an abortion; as he put it, "I took care of that problem. Her body was found in the Missouri river downstream from a bridge that he would take me to fish. Just the way that he coldly referred to her death convinced me that he was a murderer. This incident was only one of many incidents that left me with no doubt that he was a psychopath.
@@robertperry4439The Korean war only brought his psychopathy to surface. You're BORN with psychopath a.k.a ASPD Factor 1. ASPD factor 2 is created, but usually in childhood to adolescence. It's EXTREMELY RARE to have Factor 2 ASPD be created at the age of 19-20 years old, only 5 years away before the human brain is fully formed and the window of change is closed forever.
That's encouraging... I only broke away 5 years ago, and I'm already middle aged. I know I have a long road ahead of me, especially since my father made a point of keeping us all very close and connected as part of his smokescreen. Breaking away was a messy affair. I hope both you and you sister broke away together. I, for the most, part had to leave my siblings behind.
I believe that psychology should be a normal thing to teach in school to prevent early harming development. Just like ethics but that's just not enough.
@@lekoraxx5406 My first psychology class was in HIGH SCHOOL in the 1970’s. It saved my life. I got away from my dysfunctional family, learned how to deal manage toxic people and adapt to many predatory employers. I finished a Degree in Psychology and eventually a Master’s in Education. Never let anyone tell you that using your brain, or education isn’t important. They are gaslighting you and are only looking for ways to knock-out their competition.
I would even go further and argue that ethics shouldn't be taught at all or at least very differently. Western ethics specifically are very misleading, which is due to Plato's conception of aristocracy and becoming a superhuman. This has historically been the pretext to ideological individualism and the abandonment of our social traits for the sake of "ownness". But that's bs from start to finish. Instead, we should be taught that we are evolutionary adapted to living in small groups and that our singularistic way of perceiving the world fits living in such but not in differentiated societies, as we happen to live in today. We face so many systemic issues which could be avoided by just adapting a lifestyle that suits our non-individualistic, small group-oriented minds and the lack thereof even precedes the lastest trends in individualistic pathologies, like a rise in narcissism, depression, anxiety, alienation etc. You may wonder, but if two thirds of the population are frequently depressed, that's not a phenomenon the individual should have to deal with. It merely happens because of the lack of the right environment and this environment is not right but betrays itself with the notion that it is, over and over again...
@@randommaddlhat7358 In Missouri, in the 1970’s I took my first Psychology class as a Sophomore in High School. It was exactly what I needed. It saved me from the grips of my Choral Director influencing me to become a College Music Major since I was a gifted vocalist. That was his dream, not mine. I did finish a Bachelors in Psychology which I used throughout my life in so many jobs. Eventually I went back for a Masters in Education (TESL) to expand my skill set, update technology and career options. Philosophy, ethics and morality were a part of the Liberal Arts Curriculum required in University which was essential in this immoral world.
@@62Cristoforo They are very charismatic IMITATORS of emotion, body language and MASK to manipulate their vulnerable prey. They are simply HUMAN PREDATORS.
@@ssing7113 What you don’t understand is, I care, and your hate, apathy and dysfunction can’t affect me and others whose energy is more powerful than yours. I know how to deal with bullies and mentally disturbed Anti-Social personalities. PROFESSIONALLY
A guy I used to date told me he was diagnosed from early age as psychopath and at first I didn't believe him but I started noting certain attitudes that were unusual for me, he was able to portray empathy on an intellectual level only but not able to actually have true empathy. In the end, I wasn't able to be with him because I knew that I needed a connection in an emotional level with a couple. I know that most people have these horrible stories about having a relationship with a psychopath, but I just don't see him that way, I know that he sees the world way different than I do and he is aware of his inability to feel concern about others, therefore he has learned how to navigate this world and how to understand the other people's point of view. I believe that if most psychopaths were treated at an early age, they would learn how to build healthy relationships with others.
Psychopaths can be so charming and superficial. There social, emotional interactions tend to be not authentic but can be extremely convincing. They can be excellent readers of situations and body language. However, they may intentionally mislead and disguise their lack of true emotional connection with imitated or learned responses to manipulate their partners. This can make them dangerous in relationships.
Yep. People tend to think psychopathy means "born evil". But they're just as likely to be inherently evil as you're average person. It's all about what environment they grow up in, the types of parents, the moral education, early diagnosis and treatment. Most people affected suffer in a unique way. The same way a deaf person does. They want to be normal and fit in but they know you are closed off from an entire aspect of life. There is a closed door that will never open to you and behind of which everyone you know seems to be happy
@@Carvgoo It is extremely difficult to comprehend another person’s “perceptual cognition”. Psychopathy is seen now as being on a spectrum. It is not a psychopathology that is truly capable of functional emotional relationships. They can imitate for long enough to have families, if that is their life goal, but often their partners end-up being deceived, realizing their spouse with psychopathy was not authentically and emotionally engaged with them. Their words and actions were superficial.
@@visi7891 I agree, but this psychopathy “socialization” will not change their neurological structure. It can modify some individuals on parts of the spectrum but there will always be the dangerous psychopaths, until our neuro science advances to treat them.
I feel like the thing people struggle to understand about psychopathy (ASPD) the most is the fact that it's literally nothing personal. They have nothing especially against you, they just simply care equally little about everyone.
@@kellymichelley I think ASPD (anti-social personality disorder) is the only official diagnosis, sociopath and psychopath are just describing labels, psychopathy you're "born with", sociopathy has a cause in the early childhood. And the ability of experiencing empathy is a bit different: psychopath totally lacks it, sociopath is capable of experiencing it to some extent, but can "switch it off" to do horrible things. Please let me know how you think it's different!
no , A hard dissagree , a psychopath can easly feel irritated or hatefuk towards you . and since they cant feel bond or love with people (they feel connection but not a bond , like a reptile if you would say) nor they can have empathy , they would only care about fulfilling their desires and what benefit them , witch is harming you. so they feel hate and desire to hurt , byt not a desire to love and help , and their lack of empathy and ability to connect with other people ;makes makes it easier .
I think of them as sharks. Sharks are cool and fun to watch, but if you mess with them and get bit, it's a little bit your fault. It's in their nature to lash out. For example, one of the reasons my mother in law hates me is that I never give her any personal information she might potentially use against me. She would obviously use it eventually, and it would be my fault to not have the foresight to keep that chum out of the water. You can be around psychopaths, but you need an extra level of awareness and precaution.
@@عبدالرحمنغزال-ب8د I kinda agree kinda disagree. Or maybe you didn't get my point? They can feel hate and anger, and anger towards a specific person. But their tendency to feel hate and anger and simultaneously the lack of empathy is due to their neurological deviancy. They often do like to provoke people to get their reaction, just to have something happening (they get very easily bored). But _that_ is nothing personal, they just want some stimulation and they don't care it's happening by your's (anyone's) expense. That's not personal.
Having witnessed some extreme cases of malignant narcissism and struggled to describe their behavior behind closed doors, I can tell you several things: * Extreme cases of any one disorder out of the dark triad of malignant narcissism, psychopathy, and machiavellianism as personality disorders tend to contain some degree of the other two, * These individuals are a whole another ballgame to deal with compared to the usual jerks society prepares us to face; they are are *not* normal, and most of their damage gets done while you're trying to relate to them or trust them as if they were, * Much as it's troubling that much of our society doesn't comprehend this psychology outside of fictional thrillers and horror stories, it backhandedly does say that most of us are differently wired from this at a very basic level; humanity on the whole isn't broken, we're better than this. The more aware we are of these disorders, the better we can contain the damage they do when they appear in individuals with influence or power.
@@MiteshDamaniawell instinctively we do... red flag ....red flag .... Pattern I might be dating myself but I didn't have TH-cam when I was growing up... Red flag red flag pattern stay away from that dude
Very informative. Probably is worthwhile pointing out that psychopaths are drawn to altruistic people! You're like beacon for them to target by being nice
I recently became aware of how altruistic I am. I thought all people felt the same way I do, and it's heart breaking to discover how wrong I was. Litterally makes me gutted.
@shontose Obsereve.. and chose. Being altruistic is not a bad thing.. BUT you must find others like you.. it is very easy to have those who look for that sort of thing zero in on you like a lazer and take everything they can. I was lucky.. I was too poor for this.. but there are many many ways others can take advantage.
I’m so sorry I had this too. Realizing that I’ll naturally give more than others and most people only give when it suits them. I’m still wrapping my head around this one. It’s the story of the monk and the scorpion. It may be in the scorpions nature to sting but it’s in the monks nature to help, so don’t change your nature just because people can be terrible.
I do also beg do differ a bit tho, viewing it from the other side where, psychopathy and altruism are two survival strategies. From an evolutionary perspective, it could make sense for both cases: - People with psychopathy would have little to no empathy towards others, allowing them to take out competition more easily and producing their own offspring that way. - People with altruism would have the community on their side, so whatever offspring they may have produced, had a higher chance of surviving because others would be more inclined to help you out naturally. While it may seem as if one is "selfish" while the other is "selfless", both could be considered "selfish" as the entire goal would be the survival of _your_ genes.
I don't agree on the second part. Most ppl will not help you just bc you helped them- not on things that matter anyway. It is a survival strategy though, mainly for others not yourself unlike psychopathy. Alturists are needed very much as they help the marginalised humans that "normal ppl" refuse to help or look into
@@PentoCostal-rh5zd It's not really a case of helping out because you've helped them. It's a case of helping others because "you are part of their group" (they see benefit of having you around). You can still see this concept in say, social media, where if you "attack" one person of a group, suddenly the entire group will jump on your back. I agree that we should help marginalized humans but I also think we should help them by offering equal chances rather than equal results. Sadly, modern society tends to lean more towards wanting equal results.
@@FinlayDaG33k but the irony of alturism is that your group can disown you for going against them but feel like you need to (like a moral stance). But a psychopath can pretend to be an alturist just fine bc they can fake emotion and pretend to be good to manipulate others, also they have no moral stance so they will do what the group wants or be powerful enough to change the group's moral standards (usually by fear and submission which an alturist cannot do). But you are right, i'm also for equal opportunities too. The problem that if you really want to have equality you need to help out marginalised communities not only with jobs but also mental health and better environment- it's what makes them have a worse start at life and also jobs. I guess there is a way that gives all people help without compromising quality/expertise
@@FinlayDaG33k and you are correct, dogpiling is an effective strategy to help out your member of the group. Sadly though, someone who struggles with boundries and helps out too much as ranked lower in the group and usually befriend other kind people = not having enough aggressiveness and attackers when you need them
Extreme empathy (or sensitivity to others' feelings of discomfort), like the extreme lack of it, can be clinically significant. Many people suffer because of this trait. These individuals are generally not altruistic but very insecure, exploitable, and it's easy to trigger high levels of shame in them (which makes them vulnerable to emotional control). Some of their actions may be labeled as “generous,” but they stem from fear (fear of being bad people or harming others if they don't go to extremes to alleviate others' discomfort). As a psychology researcher, I would argue that this is the actual oposite of psychopathy. If psychopathy is an inherited temperament, its opposite would also have to be an inherited temperament. What she refers to as the opposite of psychopathy is not a temperamental inclination but a cluster of behaviors and (good) rationalizations related to cultural norms adopted as a result of the socialization of the individual in accordance to altruistic values. For example, a typical person (not at either extreme) would feel comfortable setting limits for their child, even if it causes temporary discomfort. A highly sensitive person towards others' suffering, on the other hand, wouldn't be able to, to the detriment of the child's healthy socialization, obviously.
What would you call someone with extreme empathy to the point they can't discipline or say no, as you described in your comment? Is there a name for that disorder?
Yeah. But you CAN be extremely altruistic AND be very conscious. I couldnt give a f--k since my teens what other people think I should be doing. I just do what I think is best. I dont.. do things because I feel guilty or need to please, I just feel very intense empathy, and I think its logical to help if one has the skills and resources, and I try to kickstart equally good behaviour in others for the benefit of the hive. When it is ingrained in one to help, one will go beyond one's capacities.. and I'm a VERY strong person. But yeah sometimes it's hard to learn not giving too much. I get better with practise, trying to help less. What helped, bizarrely, was living in a country with the highest per capita psychopathic mindsets in Europe, maybe the world. Estonia. I came as a treehugging extravert, now I try to stay away from people. Estonia is H.E.L.L. for everyone with a soul.
Thank you so much and you are absolutely right. Extreme emphathy is so awful. I got into depression solely bc of it, wondering why nobody gives a d*** about ppl starving and getting into life altering, traumatic situations? It also makes it hard to stand up for yourself or even others bc like you said we are afraid and easily gaslighted into denying our emotions. It's really counterproductive in a world that literally doesn't care. I would consider it as a disorder seeing how everyone glides by irl. I cannot fathom lying or using others or fake small talk which is like, very necessary
It's important that, when you do something worthwhile for people, animals, earth, you need to be discrete and shut-up about it. Else it can just be a new variant of self-promotion. A flavor, of the many flavors, of narcissism. I saw this sh!t all the time in, supposedly, spiritual fellowships.
Sometimes sharing original/new/exciting ways to help can help others use it as well. An example is Auriikatarina here on TH-cam she cleans the homes of the depressed for free. Ot has led others to do this as well in their own countries and even led to international collabs doing this
I think it's be great if people promoted it to inspire young people to do the same actually. I think we want to help people more when we see other people help people. That's a big part of why people even are attracted to churches.
my upbringing and memories of development has strong ties into psychopathy. however, my habits and practices of building peace has strong ties to altruism. this blend of the proposed spectrum is something I'm learning to value within me. also accepting that my psychopathic nature isn't wrong, just can be dangerous if allowed to construct my beliefs without mindfulness.
Take Away: NOTE: Policies that promote general well being & abundance create environments of abundance & well-being. (As opposed to scarcity & selfishness at the detriment of others.)
I don't believe you truly got the meaning of that sentence. Policies that promote general well being & abundance are the ones that grows the economy as well, which is not a zero sum game of limited resources, rather a society of voluntary exchanges between individuals, which also have their individual rights respected. Donating or volunteering is not the same as being taxed, the latter is not voluntary, and doesn't go directly towards helping people.
This is a good and thoughtful description. And I like that it doesn’t just focus on psychopaths. It’s easy to fall into that trap in today’s world, where the news seems so dominated by bad actors. For myself, I’ve learned to be more careful than I used to be, but I also try my best to be kind unless experience tells me I shouldn’t be. Human social relationships aren’t easy, are they?
They can be easy or difficult. It all depends on the people you're around, and the state you're in. Most of the time, people are OK as long as you're not in a bad place. Things always change so that is something to look forward to
Psychopaths are fascinating to me. The idea that a person can't physically feel empathy for another is something I can't understand on a personal level, even if I can on a scientific one. I'm autistic and supposedly have that notorious "double empathy," and have worked in two career paths simultaneously my entire adult life that aim to help others, to my own obvious personal detriment (depending on your definition of quality of life). Many people do. What do psychopaths think we get out of it other than contentment from knowing that another suffers less?
Psychopaths understand empathy and altruism on an intellectual level. They're not stupid. Imagine you woke up this morning and a family member visited you. But you just didn't feel anything inside, you're not hsppy to see them but not unhappy either. Would you suddenly not understand why others might feel happy seeing family members? Just because you feel numb? The reality is that most people with psychopathy have extremly muted emotions, so they know the feelings just on a far diminished level. So they have the experience and are very capable of understanding why people feel the way they do. They just don't do it themselves 99% of the time
I am extremely empathetic and it is very painful. I also look around and find everybody crazy and psychopathic in many instances. I find it crazy how people will walk by a homeless person and not bat an eye. Meanwhile, i oftrn will struggle to fall asleep thinking of things like that over which i ahve no power
True empaths will empathize with psychopaths. I don’t mean that to be funny. Do you at least feel sorry for psychopaths? Understand them? Empathize with them? Because I am an empath and I do.
Thats opposite of reality, "real intuition" is what makes psychopaths invisible, thats why everyone felt good about Ted Bundy, even in the interview room he managed to charm people beyond doubt he is OK and charming guy, and here you are, spreading the word of needing people to trust the intuition.
@@Kormac80 We can’t rely upon what you are thinking of as “intuition”, when we already have researched data, and assessment tools from decades of managing psychopathy, historically and in our modern cultures. It is the political elite who refuse to use these tools for fear it will LIMIT THEIR POWER.
This was very interesting. There are practices in Buddhism aimed at generating more love and compassion, called the Four Immeasurables. I myself practiced these for four years and my personality completely changed, I went from overreactive and hypersensetive to rarely ever taking things personally and holding a grudge, I also become more open and friendly towards others.
It's strange how cruel they are in countries where buddhism is the main or or one of the main religions. Like in the country of enfin nobel prize winner ang suu kyi. Driving out and mutilating people's babies even. Another injustice that doesn't matter to the rest of the world.
I’m a clinical psychologist and psychoanalytic therapist. Just to clarify, the term psychopath/psychopathy is a distinct psychoanalytic term. This I of course endorse! The DSM-5 uses the term “anti-social personality disorder” Nowhere does the DSM speak of psychopathy. The DSM’s anti-social PD criteria and psychopathic diagnostic criteria have some overlap, but not fully. The DSM describes observable symptoms whereas the psychoanalytic term of psychopathy is primarily interested in internal psychological state. I don’t agree with her statement that psychopathy is purely a Neuro-developmental condition. The psychoanalytic and psychiatric evidence does not support that. People with psychopathy come from families where there is either significant abuse/neglect or a deep lack of emotional attachment/coldness and exploitative dynamics by the parents. It is not just a neurological role of the dice. Still, interesting research!
From a neurobiological perspective up regulation of RPL10P9 and ZNF132, and downregulation of CDH5 and OPRD1, as well as astrocytes, RPL10P9 and MT-RNR2 seem to be the base of psychopathy, with the dopaminergic system being responsible for up to 93% of all psychopathic behaviour. Epigenetics doesn’t play that much of a role so society/environment has little influence
"People with psychopathy come from families where there is either significant abuse/neglect or a deep lack of emotional attachment/coldness and exploitative dynamics by the parents." - Well, gee, no kidding. Where do you think the psychopath got his genes from??? The tendency runs in families and the diagnosable psychopath just happened to inherit a larger "dose" of those Machiavellian genes. The social sciences in general have this huge blind spot where heredity is concerned that traces back to the tabula rasa intellectuals of the Enlightenment which frequently leads them to ignore the obvious. And in the psychological sciences, this blind spot is nowhere more pronounced than in the psychoanalytic tradition which has often sought to blame the patient's dysfunctions on his childhood environment although twin and adoptee research almost always shows that to be the weakest influence on adult behavior or performance.
I agree that it’s not only a neuro-developmental condition. I think more research needs to be done on how society enables psychopathic behavior. Many aspects of our society do. We can’t only point fingers at these people without finding out societies role in supporting them. Many times, abusive people have enablers and are able to successfully defame their victims and gain support of others, which just reinforces their behavior.
being born a psychopath is a gift while altruism is a curse. i can tell u d life of an altruist is often very painful. we constantly feel sad for those in need and we spend most of our resources doing so and yet we cant fix society. we certainly get taken advantaged by many and especially by psychopaths due to our kindhearted nature
Remember the words of our Lord: "Be ye therefore wise as serpents yet harmless as doves." We have to be realists about human nature and we have to hold people accountable for their deeds (behavior). Unfortunately, sometimes we have to learn the hard way that men are not angels.
It's crazy how cultural narcissism is normal because it's widely accepted and psychopathy is a disorder because it has to do with few people. Fascist supremacist attitude. You are right on that. Imagine an empath against specisim so numbed to become a psychopath
@@michaels4255 The fictional Abrahamic "God" is literally a psychopath to put it mildly. I'm not talking about your idea of what "God" is, I'm talking about what is literally written in the Torah/Bible.
I was just telling my husband last night how I always feel so badly for others that I offer to do things for them even if it means I will be putting myself in some sort of very stressful or painful position and I just can't help it. But I also have PTSD and anxiety so I then later panic about what I committed to but am still unable to not do it. I'd rather do what is best for someone else than what is best for me. It has been a real problem in my life sometimes and has caused problems for me and those around me.
I feel you. One thing is important to remember that helping ppl is NOT your responsibility, you can help them get to safety but anything after that is optional. Remember that you are obligated to perserve yourself. What makes me realise that is when i give people a lot but i got nothing back irl, the exception is the help by other helpful ppl
Abigail has absolutely nailed it in condensing a myriad of behavioral patterns into two broad categories. All too often people are more focused on a diagnosis versus actually identifying an understanding the actual behavioral patterns. I will definitely be recommending and forwarding this video to my students around the world. There are so many overlaps between her content/distinctions and those of professor Klaas - especially in the business environment. Thank you for making great content like this possible
@@HidingFromFate To find a partner. Or to help your kids in life. Or to make your parents proud. For the feeling it brings you. Whatever that is. But im asking why someone wants to share this video with people for educational purposes?
Ten experts will give ten different explanations of the difference between psychopathy and sociopathy (psycopathy is innate and sociopathy is learned is a big one). Also, I've seen a lot of evidence that more affluent people are actually less generous. If you recognize a lot of charitable activity of the wealthy as the tax avoidance / influence buying that it actually is I think that dynamic becomes more clear.
I got ptsd and quit coding..the day i went homeless (for just a month in 2015) i discovered poor people are SO MUCH KINDER than people not even rich..just with good jobs.
exactly. ppl who think bill clinton and bill gates are beneficent and charitable are beyond naive. "Charities" tend to be tax shelters at best and low overhead profit industries at worst (imagine doing nothing other than saying youll give donated money to some heartwarming cause and then keeping whatever percentage you think is "fair" and justify it as "operating expenses"
That is because poor people can't AFFORD to be generous. So if they do give, it says a lot. But when you are rich, no matter how generous you are, people still won't think it is enough. I swear those who complaints about the rich not giving enough, are also the ones that never gave anything back to society.
Psychedelics saved me from years of uncontrollable depression, anxiety, alcoholism, smoking, and illicit pills addiction. Imagine carving heavy chains for over a decade and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. Believe it or not, in a couple of years they'll be all over for treatment of mental health related issues.
To be honest, mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on the planet and it is natural, they serve in many ways not only for mental related issues.
Can you help me with a reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. It is very hard to get a reliable source here in Switzerland. Really need!
Yes, Sporeville. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD, and addiction... Mushrooms definitely made a huge difference to why I'm clean today.
The reason most people do good is because they benefit from it in a spiritual sense. So if seen from that perspective , it can be argued that we are selfish
You do good for that reason and you think everyone acting good under your criteria and isn't true. Someone said the lion think everyone is under its condition. I do good things because make me feel good not to be recognized o make me feel deserve heaven. I'm not religious person and most of my kind acts I keep it for myself or I do things under the shadows without a face and name.
@@cassiellightman I agree. My point was that people do good because one way or another they believe that it’s gonna benefit them. Spiritually or materially
People do altruism because their brain releases happy chemicals when they do... Obviously thats how the brain works, there is literally no other way for us to operate
@@michaelryan2416what if u do good because you wouldn't like a person coming back to that If they had an extra bad day, why make it worse by them coming back to something awful? Or why not do something that makes them laugh when they come back to it or see it?
I guess maybe its just second hand happiness or something that's a motivator :< Where did that need for second hand happiness even come from tho, how did I get it and find comfort in it, just empathy?? Also the second hand happiness is affected by the outcome not actually being as great so, it turns into a lot of guilt (so nvm I guess the outcome motivates us to do that good oops) I just saw someone feel happy and I know what it's like to feel happy too, so I feel proud for them Apologies for my unstructured sleep deprived ramblings, nearly had a seizure trying to reread it Also wait WAIT last incoherent ramble thing, doing things the selfish way is "doing things for only me", But with empathy what if u view other people as you too, the same, another consciousness the same as u, so u would consider "me" to be so many other "me"s And empathy is not selfish, maybe u could be biased towards one set of experiences but it still is "me" with all other people It's selfish... But not selfish... WAIT WHAT?? idek I need to sleep Maybe biased towards our own biases..
I had a conduct disorder in my childhood and teenage years. Long ago I was diagnosed with PTSD, BPD. ASBD NARCISSISTIC and HISTRIONIC PD. With ASPD I obviously have a measure of Psychopathy. I know that I have and often control or manipulate people, I am rarely aggressive physically but highly aggressive verbally and impulsive. I have had a range of Psychological and Psychiatric treatments for at least 30+. years, both In patient and outpatient. I am now discharged as being too severe and complex to treat. A major factor in that is my ability to mask while controlling and manipulating. I have suicidal ideation and have attempted suicide with definite intent. And yet I can so easily become a real charmer!
Absolutely. Especially when you encounter them firsthand, or god forbid you have them as a parent. It takes a long time to realize just how messed up they treat you. No one wants to believe in real monsters.
I experienced depression at times. Working at an acute rehab as nothing more than as an assistant, i found relief assisting patients. My brain rewarded me for helping others.
While pyschopathy exists, this does not mean that everything we do isn't done for selfish reasons; psychopaths lack "enlightened self-interest." Even the most altruistic person derives some pleasure in being altruistic - the question I raise is: If that positive feedback loop didn't exist, would that person still be altruistic? Certainly some would, but it is my belief that the percentage at this edge of the spectrum is about the same as the percentage who are at the other edge - truly psychopaths.
@@orbismworldbuilding8428 A true psychopath would simply use these lessons to learn how to take advantage of people. In other words, they'd use enlightened self-interest as a weapon. "They will do this for me if I convince them it's in their self-interest."
@@shakeyj4523 While some brains are seriously different from the "norm," they are extremely rare. I'd venture to say that, barring some form of birth defect (be it genetic or environmental in nature), 99% of babies have the same "brain structure." In other words, I'd say that the vast majority of psychopaths learned lessons that convinced them this is the best way to live.
I wanna be selfish for my own benefit but there's a point where I can't help myself to help others big or little things and I assume I'm not the only one thinking like this
You sound like the type that takes care of themselves for others. Rather than takes care of themselves for themselves. Altruistic people sometimes think putting themselves first is selfish when it's simply self care. Don't guilt yourself!
@@HAPPLIP I get this. I used to be a severe people pleaser. I still care for people but there's those people that care too much about themselves - self-centered/callous - and call it "self-care". In a way, it's a form of self-sabotage.
@Pandcakes936 100% agree. You can never predict who is genuinely doing self care vs. those manipulating the word for personal gain. They're out there, and all we can do is recognize and move onto the genuine people out there.
I worked in nursing homes for much of my adult life and I absolutely loved it. Helping others who are at this fragile state in life. I really did start putting myself in their situations as well as my coworkers situations. It takes a lot of compassion and energy to meet the needs of highly dependent patients with a 1/11 ratio. Even 1/1 has it's challenges with a combative or restless patient. Despite the hardship i went home everyday feeling drained and my heart filled with utter joy. Im a STHM now. I took this role on for many reasons. A lot based on trauma, anyway Ive come to learn the resources we're provided just aren't enough. Not in today's society. I think it has to do with the aging population and political issues we're seeing today. Theirs not a lot of compassion for others outside of extreme views and agendas. Anyway, God bless you and your work. ❤
It does make me feel good to help people in need, but it also makes me feel good to help animals that are in need. Baby turtles, bumblebees, I keep my eyes open for them.
@@Lynn-gd6ti i always like turtles,i even touched a big one in our neighbor's house where there is a funeral and i am inspired to buy 1 pack bottle of baby turtle toys in childhood
0:10 I agree with this statement. Most ppl are selfish by nature. I have never met one that wasn't! Different levels of selfishness along with greediness etc. and no, you don't have to be a psychopath because you're selfish that can exist on it's own.
Caring about people… IS also selfish… wanting or acting towards ANYTHING that makes you “feel good” FALLS on the spectrum of selfishness… it goes from “self preservation” out to “greediness”… it’s NEVER black and white… we are all “locally selfish”
That's industrial society which almost forces people to think like this. How can people care about other people, especially in cities, when the reciprocity is rarely there or non existent and if you do something which is inherently good, it can be perceived as weakness or done with ulterior motives? It's almost a survival tactic to be adopted when others take it as the "norm", but there's a nuance between selfishness and enlightened self love. Look at the Masai or other tribes unaffected by the system. Many people in Western countries label them as inferior or uncivilized, when they are wealthy in the way they live in small communities, taking care of each other, living with animals in harmony and developing wisdom. We also had a similar approach to Life. Maybe it's time to co-create way of living which is sane. Even if there are bad individuals, there are still many share good values inside but might find difficulty in expressing them with balance, where they find themselves, or so it may seam. The world isn't all bad or good, we all have flaws and qualities and it's what makes us human.
Selfishness has nothing to do with non-psychopaths. Selfishness is a human survival aspect. For instance, if there is a disaster after a short time ( 3 days ) without food or water everyone will go into selfishness mode. Most non-psychopaths are not selfish during a crisis. In Fact, in bad times most people help others. But, if it comes down to live or die for themselves or their families they will become selfish and do things they would not do normally. However, the psychopaths are selfish and do bad things all the time in all matters of life no matter the circumstances.
some are less fortunate because thieves have been robbing their moneys or either made a mistake of bankruptcy in their financial stability but i don't judge them cuz no one is perfect and i believe everyone deserves second chances,some are babies and kids who got abandoned on the streets
I can tell you that not everyone is selfish. I am a sensitive person. That is a psychology term. It means that I am empathetic and sympathetic to others. I genuinely always care about others and I am very upset when I see people hurt or struggling. If I can help someone, I will. I believe that we should all care about each other. I feel this deep in my heart. To me, psychopaths are the opposite of me. I studied psychology to figure this out. They don't have empathy or sympathy. They only care about their own desires. They are absolutely devoid of feelings for others. They will use other people, hurt other people or even kill other people with no guilt, shame or remorse. People are just objects to them. They have absolutely no feelings for other people. They have no conscience. The reason I studied this is that I have always felt like I was a mark for really bad people. They gravitate to me to try to use me or hurt me. I know that this is because they see that I am a kind person. So, they believe that I will be an easy mark. I finally studied psychology to see what makes really bad people really bad. I found out that the worst of the worst are psychopaths. Serial killers are psychopaths but not all psychopaths are serial killers. Many are business leaders (one in five per a university study), bad politicians, bad religious leaders, anyone who only cares about themselves. They are selfish to the point that they will do whatever is required to meet their goals which are always goals that are good for them and very bad for other people. With all of this, I have realized that everything wrong in this world is because of psychopaths. Climate crisis, homelessness, both drug problems cartels and Big Pharma, racists, homophobes, hateful incels, every type of bad person. Incels frequently turn into serial killers. They blame women because women don't like their hateful nature. Psychopaths are tearing our world apart. They don't care about the consequences so long as they can get what they want. Psychology states that 1 to 3% of humans are psychopaths but their number is very low. I know this because they have only studied violent criminals and business leaders. They haven't studied the general population. When you study other types of studies, polls and even just watch to see which people have psychopathic traits, you find that the number is much higher. I would place the number at 20 to 30% for all of humankind. Your chances of encountering a psychopath are actually very high. You have met them. You just didn't recognize them. They may have even smiled in your face while trying to convince you to do as they pleased. They are charming because they know how to con people. They know how to play a role to get others to do as they wish. It is only when you get close them that you figure out that they aren't nice people at all.
"psychopaths are the opposite of me. I studied psychology to figure this out." - You are lucky. I learned this through the laboratory of life! However, I disagree that the number is 20% or more of the population. Society would be completely dysfunctional! Psychologists do in fact derive their numbers from studies of the general population (okay, admittedly they often substitute college students for the general population, but even so...), not just criminals and business leaders. In fact, the incidence of psychopathy is considerably higher among criminals and even business leaders (and especially in the financial industry - perhaps psychopaths are strongly attracted to money). However, the normal part of the bell curve certainly includes many people who are closer to the psychopathic tail than to the exact center of the curve, but are not so selfish and unfeeling that they would ever constitute clinical cases.
@@michaels4255 Well, maybe it is just that most of the psychopaths live in the United States. When I see that the university study said 20% but most CEOs are psychopaths, I see that the number is actually much higher. This can be seen by their traits. So, they price gouge, pay their employees low wages, keep most employees under 40 hours so that they will not have to provide health insurance for them, have their employees perform dangerous work that causes them injuries (look at how bad it was with Bezos. Doctors were reporting him to OSHA). This is all because of their extreme greed. That is psychopathy. There is also the fact that we are at the beginning the sixth extinction event. This is because Big Oil has lied since 1959. They covered up the fact that they knew that global warming would occur. Now, when the "Doomsday Glacier" breaks free, the next "Great Flood" will happen. I anticipate that this will happen in 2025. The fact that the Big Oil execs didn't even care that this could kill their own family members is psychopathic. Even the fact that Big Pharma is about to collapse our economy due to the prices they are charging for Ozempic and other weight loss drugs is completely psychopathic. No concern for the consequences of their actions. No empathy for others. These are the traits of psychopaths. The captains of industry also called the robber barons started the capitalist system in the United States in the 1800s. They were psychopathic. They told the American worker that if they worked hard, they, too, could achieve great wealth. What they didn't tell the workers was that these robbers were born into wealth and connections that the common man and woman did not have. Most people who are not born with a silver spoon will never achieve great wealth. They will live mediocre lives and very likely die young. They caused workers to die of injuries just as Bezos did. The robber barons, BTW, had greater wealth by comparison than our billionaires of today. Then, the right-wing politicians make every effort to work to help those with great wealth and against the common man including workers. They are also climate deniers even though we are close to the end of humanity because of the global catastrophe being caused by fossil fuel use. The politicians are bought by lobbyists. So, they make laws to help the very wealthy and hurt the poor and middle class. That is psychopathic. Last, psychopathic religious leaders who brainwash their congregations so that they can bilk them. This is especially true of televangelists and mega churches where they teach the opposite of the teachings of Jesus because money is God to them. They have caused the deaths of many just as psychopathic serial killers have done. They created the prosperity gospel that goes against the teachings of Jesus in order to bilk people. People believed them, paid their tithes, then died when the pastors didn't cause them to be healed. The pastors did not care at all. They threw prayer requests in the trash. There are many today with religious trauma because of the treatment that they received in these churches. Organizations have sprung up to help them to overcome their trauma. Psychopathy again. All of it is brainwashing as with any cult. It is the same as Charles Manson or Jim Jones. The common man is brainwashed into believing that they should go along with those things that are against their best interests. Today's robber barons make every effort to ensure that this is the law of the land because they only care about what they desire, great wealth. They have no empathy for others and no concern for the consequences of their actions. Thus, we are at the beginning of the sixth mass extinction, we have homelessness caused by private equity firms who only care about wealth, the major drug addiction problems that we have which were started by Big Pharma. Everything wrong in the world can be attributed to the psychopathy of the wealthy psychopaths. BTW, psychopaths seek leadership positions in order to enact their desires. They can manipulate people when they have the power to do so. Although most people choose not to recognize this, American psychopaths have destroyed the world. We don't have long before that will become evident to those who choose not to recognize this fact. It is sad that most people have been so indoctrinated by their lies that they go along with them even though they are hurting themselves by doing so. I don't know if it is a blessing or a curse that my IQ is very high so that I do recognize this.
I agree with you 100% and this is why I have been studying psychology for a couple of decades. Until I realized that not everyone can experience such an extreme level of empathy for others as I do, I wasn’t able to comprehend the inability to feel empathy or the ability for selective empathy in others. There are some real evil people in this world but many times they are hard for others to identify if they aren’t highly empathetic people. It is sad that empathetic, kind people must always be on guard around others to protect ourselves from these folks. If we don’t then they easily target us. Only someone who has experienced this over and over again would be able to comprehend the number of psychopathic individuals in this world. My personal experience leads me to believe the number of psychopaths in this world is around the percentage you stated. Sadkt, I feel having high levels of empathy is a curse and I would gladly give most of mine away. I wish we lived in a different world where empathy was abundant and psychopathy was rare.
I think in the context of psychopathy it's important to distinguish empathy and compassion. Empathy, like psychopathy, is an inherent trait. Something you're born with. Compassion, like cynicism, is a learned and encouraged skill.
Isn't empathy due to a higher concentration of mirror neurons? That would explain why the woke people are so negatively influenced by the psychopathic woke leaders, they're very empathic and so very impressionable. And in the cult they go. And off to terrorize society they go. What do you think about how the woke are calling for the genocide of the Jews? Can't make that up lol.
6:00 "It's not really your fault if you have these traits. That's not to say that you don't deserve consequences." I.. sense a deep contradiction in this two sentences. Some day .. this will have to be addressed
@@FridaHoeningSpsychopaths have more (relatively) self control, because they are not controled by empathy or a conscience, by guilt, shame, or love, just by their own whims and desires. What they need is less control. They need to be put in prison until they can be given a conscience. It's been attempted multiple times, and each time they fake a conscience, usually get released, then prove to still be soulless monsters.
That contradiction is the smallest problem I have with this video. It's kind of an absurdity, how we use "free will" to describe choices that are not at all free, but completely controled by physics, but we use many of these flawed words for lack of better words, describing situations so complex that accurately defining them would be unreasonably long. This leads to contradictions such as this particular one. Those without a conscience are not at fault for their lack of conscience, and didn't choose to not have one, but they did choose to do evil, because they have no conscience, anr if we just let them run amok, then we'll have devastating climate change, pedos in the churches and schools, dioxins and plastic covering the planet, BigThink spreading propaganda that helps those without a conscience, and a Trump v Biden presidential race. Wait... I guess they're already running amok.
You can be a psychopath and “altruistic.” If a psychopath believes this is the he best path for their future, or they relate their sense of being good as being altruistic this happens. Often manipulation is greater a tool then aggression.
I believe that to be exact my case altho id love to be proven wrong, my pride guides me, taking lives is too easy, id rather help someone because its more challenging, and the only reason i wish i had a heart is because i want to be complete, i want everything, to experience everything, being psychopathic strips me from certain flavors of life i wish to enjoy, although i might just be delusional, i just really hate lacking anything I really hate lacking anything, id hate for those i love to know about me potentially being psychopathic, because i wouldnt want them to question my genuineness ive tried so hard to become who i am today and i do value them for what they are as i understand i couldnt live without my favorite food and having them does a lot for me, i rly wish i had a heart just to avoid that kinda thing but alas even that proves i kinda dont, my world is all for use and the use i want just so happens to make me a better person i rly wonder what life looks like for regular people
I know someone who seems clearly and genuinely altruistic (not in order to gain anything for himself, e.g helped homeless people, ppl with visa problems), while at the same time having pretty obvious psychopathic traits (fighting selfish and ruthlessly for things he wants, being fearless, not understanding a lot of emotions of others, having no guilt feelings, etc)
Altruists are often the victims of psychopaths because they refuse (or cannot) accept that these people are actually doing these bad things. Altruists will surrender their own success too easily. To be healthy, we need a balance. We need to have a certain level of our own survival and success priority. But we also need the other side of the scale, a sense of other people's pain. There is evolutionary basis for some balance between the two. Sometimes people need to suppress their empathy. How else could that person be a relief worker or surgeon in times of war or natural disaster?
Cooperation and caring for others is how humans have managed to survive as long as they have. It takes an intentional discounting and ignoring of what it takes to survive as a species to deny it. If we stay off social media. we can see that most people in society are caring and cooperative. Not one organization could exist for any time without it.
Yes, Ted Bundy saved a girl from drowning at Green Lake in Seattle, Washington, in 1970. This event is documented in Ann Rule's book "The Stranger Beside Me" and is supported by multiple sources
@@007kingifrit the book Altruism, by Matthieu Ricard is excellent . It challenges your assertion that altruism is secretly selfish. I agree with you though that in many instances, what appears to be altruism my have at least a subtle self interested motivation but the author differentiates this from TRUE altruism and provides many compelling examples.
@@JohnnyTwoFingers the money/currency is basically half of the economy, in that it is good for all the good and services (not including the barter economy, which is immaterial in comparison). So the goods and services are the one half, and the currency/money is the other. And this makes sense if you think about how convenient currency makes your life. Now we know from history that a monopoly always abuses it's power. I hope this is obvious enough, but through a deeper economic analysis we can deduce that it is the nature of a monopoly to abuse it's power. And the currency market is clearly a monopoly in every country, where the government sponsored currency (even if it is issued by a privately owned entity like the Federal Reserve) has nearly 100% of the market share. This is a monopoly on half of the economy. A right to issue currency unchecked by potential competitors. If you tried to print your own currency, any transactions or income earned in it is taxed, and in dollars. So if I go all year trading in vouchers, crypto, metals, and bartering, without owning a dollar, the IRS will show up at my doorstep expecting me to sell my assets for Dollars to pay taxes. This tax rule generates a ton of demand for the Dollar, giving the issuer of it unchecked power. Now, you could argue that the Federal Reserve and other private central banks are more powerful than the government. And I would agree. But, I would also argue that said central banks are the real government. And the power to print the money/currency with monopoly status, that is, free of competition, is in of itself, unchecked power, by the very definitions of "unchecked" and "power". Therefore the currency market must be made free, fair, and open to competition, if you want to keep the government in check
So…how do we define “messes up sometimes” on the altruistic side? Like if someone abuses women and children in their personal life and has used their massive platform to dehumanize women, like clearly doesn’t value their humanity, but also uses their massive platform to sometimes help people (but also sometimes misinforms and makes millions off of their followers’ nescience). Are they a psychopath? Can psychopaths mask their psychopathy by appearing altruistic (are people who pander to known people abusers also psychopaths by proximity?)
Yes, psychopaths can mask. Remember, they are unable to feel empathy, so it's not a choice for them. You would have to see inside their brains to know for sure. Are they really feeling empathy and helping people, or are they simply helping because it really benefits them in some way. Without reading minds it can be hard to know.
@@shakeyj4523the best way to tell for sure is to see how many narcissistic tactics they use, and how often. They could just be a moron who's misogynistic because the world is, gaslighting by accident, because they don't know the truth with which to not gaslight, or they could habitually lie, virtue signal, marginalize easy targets for narcissistic supply, bully, push people's buttons, manipulate, tantrum, et cetera ad nauseum.
What are we talking about here...? You sound like you're talking less about psychopathy and more about hatred figures on your political opposite? Growing up misogynistic or brutish does not make them a psychopath.
Helping only those who are close to me never seemed logical to me. The people who are close to me are most likely to be around the same socio economic status as me - yes I can help with things like childcare and spending time doing chores together, but truly helping people - and also recieving help - is most likely going to come from and be given to people who are NOT close to me. In my mind, if I see someone with a need I can meet, I will do my best to meet it - no matter who they are. It is logical to me that society will only get better if we all do this, if this is how society operates. Otherwise there will be people who get left behind, whole groups of people that fall on hard times. A person within a group that the other people do not have the capacity to help to the extent that they need, often leading to them no longer being part of that group anymore. It's not a sustainable way of thinking and acting as a society.
I like to think it this way (full disclosure: I'm Catholic): At the end of my life, I will not be asked which of my family member or my friend I helped. It will be which stranger I helped. p.s. I don't say I'm right. But yeah. A. It feels good to help others. And B. one never knows what the future holds for them.
Didn’t really delve into the details regarding the neurobiology of psychopathy. There are specific brain regions responsible for social cognition that psychopaths manifest deficits in, mostly in the prefrontal cortex as well as the anterior cingulate and insular cortex. The ability to experience empathy and compassion for others are cognitive processes that can be disrupted if these regions are damaged.
Psychopaths, autistics, schizophrenics, rapists and those with OCD have a lot in common. They all have a right hemisphere deficit as you obviously know. I find it remarkable how much serial killers share with all of the above. The compulsion to kill is OCD, the taking of “trophies” from victims are more like an autistic obsession with collecting and cataloguing their deeds than a hunter mounting a head on a wall. Opening bodies to see the mechanic nature of the body is classic behaviour for a far gone schizophrenic.
I cant begin to explain how much I love learning about neuroscience and personality psychology! I have the privilege of being taught by one of the researchers who developed the HEXACO model (M.C Ashton, PhD) at my university!
It is impossible for an individual to act with intention without involvement. Acting with intention guarantees self-interest even if that interest is self-destructive. A martyr is acting selfishly. Selfishness usually describes an act that is hurtful others. Enlightened selfishness does not hurt others and may benefit them. All people "believe" they are acting in their own interest when they act with intention. No person can act in the absence of a self.
Selfishness comes in two flavors: self-centered and other-centered. The former in its extreme is socially destructive. The latter in its extreme is altruistic, even if it can be personally destructive. We call the former jerks or monsters; we call the latter heroes. Psychopaths cannot improve; the rest of us can.
Psychopathy is not a condition that can be diagnosed, only assessed. I don't think I'm a bad person, just someone who has no reason for being other than whatever echoes I seem to repeat back at people who talk to me. I want without knowing why, I simply want to be the best, the richest, maybe just trying to make my reflection mean something more than the skin that I don't really see as mine. The difference between me and the ones behind bars I suppose is insight, my interest in philosophy keeps me questioning my actions and thus not being too easily swayed by impulses. I do wonder if I could be a good father sometimes. My girlfriend wishes for a child someday, but she seems to forget there is nothing nurturing about me. She hears crying, I hear noise and an attempt to interfere with my personal time. I'm open to any questions from others, I don't get to talk about this often so I have a mild interest for the moment, if there is no response, assume I stopped caring.
Do you feel a void like something should be here? When you see a expression on a person face do you go ' that expression for funny i sould laugh too'? Or it something else.
I have a question. I hear you saying that you don't feel like there's much "you" inside. How does this make you respond to other people in relationships? Do you feel threatened by other people who seem confident in themselves? If not, what are other situations that might make you feel threatened and want to end that relationship? Just trying to understand the actions of someone else in my life, the things you say remind me a bit of some of the things they've said.
Yes, they should be held accountable for their actions, just like everyone else. Not to do so is bullshit. Not to do so tells them they can do it again because they won't get into trouble.
It's crazy how cultural narcissism is normal because it's widely accepted and psychopathy is a disorder because it has to do with few people. Fascist supremacist attitude it's only majority vs minority
Thank you for this sharing. It was healing and helpful to revisit as I attempt to recover from being a long term target of narcissistic abuse. Bless you and the important contributions you are making.💙🌻💙🌻💙🌻💙🌻💙🌻💙🌻💙
I know a person who is elderly, he is one of the most soft spoken, diplomatic and superb person when sober. When when he gets drunk, boy o boy he erupts with negativity. Not that I am being judgemental, but I am really curious why?! Does it mean the person has suppressed lot of negetive emotions when sober and somehow the filter is removed when he is drunk?!
The problem you and Pat Noor 7354 have in my opinion is that you seem to think there is one unchanging, real personality, and not recognizing that each and everyone of us can be a different person entirely in different circumstances, under different conditions, especially with drugs involved. A simple example is that militaries are in the business of training and conditioning, ordinary people into becoming obedient murderers. Some never get called to act on that training; and people have very different reactions and responses to it, but for many, many years militaries have found techniques that work to their satisfaction for many, many people. Is it therefore always the real nature of the soldier that he is a murderer? It depends on the context, it depends on the person.
@@Kormac80 I just can't seem to learn that key lesson of the modern webs; thanks for the reminder! (looks at notes; let's see...) Doesn't matter what they say; just attack what you don't like, and that'll show them you're not to be trifled with, whether or not it has anything to do with them or what they said. And then, protocol dictates that everybody reading should take sides immediately and just react to both of you. That's about right, isn't it?
My parents were BOTH psychopaths,....they were introduced and PAID to get married by my father's wealthy mafia-connected mother in the 60s. Both my brother and I ended with severe borderline. And in 2011 my mother finally killed my brother! That was the day I gto ptsd, discovered youtube, quit my coding career, left my entire family and was never normal again. My only saving grace was the school saw scratches on me from my mother..and noticed my father was too close to my brother physically..child protective services stepped in and my grandmother upped the $$$ for my mother to straighten up until we were 18.
I don't have words to encourage you or give you hope in some easy way, but I feel that if you get through all of that is because maybe you will inspire people that are suffering same as you. From the bottom of my heart, I send you light and I admire your strength for going through all of this. God is with you.
Great content! The message that I took from this video is 'they didn't choose to be this way.' Here, she talks about psychopathy, but it also applies to addicts. In my opinion, communities need more education on these topics to prepare for living in a diverse world. Thanks you!
Pet ownership, where the pet is truly loved, cared for, and appreciated, is an indication of a compassionate and conscientious nature in a human being. These folks are more likely to care about other things, including people, as well.
6:02 Excellent point. Recognizing that people simply have innate characteristics that shape their behaviors invites a unique, better perspective on how to respond to their behaviors.
Currently reading some personality inventory of some assessment, it seems to me that this people they seems to lean towards Neuroticism (like melancholic for sample ) , over their counterparts who are high on agreeableness
Cluster B disorders are very misunderstood. The criterion particularly. Very layered, meticulous, and circumstantial. Additionally, you are talking about a scale of behavior (we are all on) which involves contextual consistency or inconsistency. If you were raised by, born into an anti-social parental system, you can understand better than most people (even the professionals). But most people who don’t get, and are merely “enlightened” by youtube videos and generic criterion.. will think narcissists, sociopaths, and psychopaths ‘are everywhere’. Completely misunderstanding what disordered behavior is vs isn’t. Behavior you would think is psychopathic - typically isn’t, and behavior you would think is normal and not psychopathic .. often times, is. You just don’t know how good people are at feigning and manipulating. Whereas genuine behavior is often frowned upon, and thought of as disordered - its not. Its all backwards. Cluster Bs will have you thinking they are the victim, they will even strengthen this stance - by going to psych professionals/therapists (professionals who DON’T get it, who will be fooled) only to validate a Cluster B’s, BS narrative. The professionals are enabling and are complicit with the actions of Cluster Bs. Therapists are often Cluster Bs, or wouldn’t be able to determine the ins and outs of there own criterion for Cluster Bs to save their own life. I have come across countless people (who are TERRIBLE cluster Bs) who only had their actions and false narratives validated by their therapists. Completely fooled them - and now they are more inclined to manipulate and deceive in society. Its a disgrace. If you are raised by a “Tetrad”, and/or multiple Cluster Bs... you will get it better than nearly all professionals. It will inescapably ruin your life. You will see every fractional level of manipulation and deceit in every explicit and implicit human action - daily. It never ends.
You HAVE a personality disorder yourself I''m afraid to say. Its evident to me as a borderline you've got a paranoid narcissitic stance in which therapists are evil, cluster-b's are evil, and the anger/rage in you is clearly palpatable. Best case you just have youtubitis lol.
We can only experience externally whatever our own internal reality is. Therefore people who make such claims about humans being naturally selfish are really only revealing their own selfish nature. If you feel kind and loving inside, you will find kindness and love all around you. And if you are bitter and miserable inside, you will find bitter misery all around you. (And an intelligent person will identify the causality at play, and adjust their demeanour accordingly!)
I have empathy, but I’m aware that I have low sympathy. My wife is very altruistic. I feel strongly that we’re on two sides of the spectrum. I envy her and hope she offsets my own behaviors I’ve observed in our kids.
empathy and altruism can be cultivated if you are interested. There are a series of practices from Buddhism called Metta and the Four Immeasurables that start with the seeds of empathy you already have and through intention, attention and visualization increase the likelihood that you will experience these prosocial emotions.
A lot of people commenting here have a ton of biases to unpack. If you are throwing a ton of labels on someone you’ve never met, you are the issue. If someone who has studied something much more than you has opinions you disagree with, it should be a source of thinking critically not being triggered and refuting. Maybe there is something to learn. Maybe you don’t like the mirror. Maybe the understandings of the world and people you’ve developed to cope with the stresses of life are being challenged. It’s healthy to think about.
I would say that one of my biggest barriers towards being altruistic is fear: fear that the altruistic action would really screw me over (like I give money, but then suddenly, I receive a bill that I can't pay it because I gave away my money), and a general fear of other people (for example, the beggar is putting on an act, and they'll rob me once I open my wallet). So I'd be curious to know if super altruistic people, like psychopaths, don't experience a lot of fear.
I'd like to recommend the book by Robert D. Hare "Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us". For me, it's pretty interesting literature on this topic
@@balahuraadrian9342 by this logic, only truly selfless being are robots, because they follow a set programm instead of goals set by motivation - be that real robots or people brainwashed into doing things that are not aligned with their interests. It is technically not wrong.
Well, I ruined my life beeing selfless!!! It didn’t bring me any positive to lend money to my brother who made me homeless later, and not beeing able to get a job because I couldn’t study. And I took care of the neighbors children for 2 years after they passed away, paying for everything. I did it becuase I thought it was my duty, even though I felt sick to my stomach then and still do, 20 years later! Only regrets!
There certainly are external signs. It isn’t that infrequent that someone psychopathic will forget they should be feeling the appropriate emotion, or they perform it in a perfunctory way then just drop it, or they TELL you they feel/felt an emotion. Or they will fake the wrong emotion. But most people, when they notice the mask drop, they immediately dismiss what they noticed. They literally cannot believe their own eyes and ears. This was what happened with about a dozen or fifteen people, in our admin office one day. I came in to look at the shift chart that had just gone up, and at the back of the room, a buddy who worked in there had given me the “keep it zipped / stay cool” eyebrow flash. A silent “beware” that saved my bacon a couple of times. The branch manager is showing off pics of her new little pup, choosing which to put on her pet-wall. She loved animals and had a special connection with them, she always told everyone. Someone said, “Oh - I thought you’d got one of those (toy breed) *last* year.” “Yeah, I had to get him put down on Friday, he’d started nipping.” Pulled out another photo and looked at it. Did not see the questioner’s jaw drop. Or the double-take someone else did, and…dismissed. But something about the pause alerted her that that would be a sad event, so she then added, “I was up all night crying, you should’ve seen me. Aww, and we got him a wee tartan bow tie to match, look at that!” Down in the canteen, different people kept coming up to us (Because I happened to be standing closest? Right behind her chair at that moment.) Some of them had been arguing with each other about it. They all of them approached and prefaced their questions mumbling some statement that they “must’ve heard it wrong”, or “got mixed up”. She had been perfectly audible to everyone. Most of them had worked daily with this woman for 5-10 years, and this was them just noticing who she was.
Scored a 53, so typical of my life, dead middle of the pack! Though 22 yrs sober after 20 yrs drinking is a bit rare to find esp one whose worked in PRO kitchens for 31 yrs!!
Her fundamental flaw happened at the beginning of the video. Selfishness is not necessarily the complete lack of ability to care for other. You can care for others in a way that is rooted in your selfish interest. In fact, we cannot, not be selfish. Selfishness is one of the most human deep rooted instinct/emotion.
Its not acring if you care for you own interests, its narcisissm. Great example is my mother taking us to the dentist every six months...it was (a) to get her ass off work for the day (b) make us look taken care of to hide the neglect.
@@stoneneils And you think it is possible to do anything with personal interest /motivation at all? What or how will that depressed zombie state look like? And if I care for others to care for me, you mean that's not caring at all? Explain that twist for me, please?
@@ramblingthoughtsandideas yes it is. its just not understandable to psychopaths. thats why you are struggling so hard with the concept and fighting every word of it.
The trouble is that the people willing to trade morality for money end up in power positions, able to control other people’s lives.
Isn't it absolutely batshit insane how nowhere in the world this is addressed?
So well said 👍
@missriverlady... exactly correct. People who seek power, control, and coin are usually the least capable of commanding those things ethically. Carl Sagan constantly refused the idea of "pursuing high offices" or "becoming a governor". In hindsight, he was probably the most capable of being an effective leader out of almost anyone else one could've suggested. Same with F.M. Rogers, to some extent.
@@gravity00x Well, SOMEONE has to coordinate things, and some people are DRIVEN to do just that… for their own gain… it would be harder to get more moral people to take these positions, which they would find stressful because they would care what effect their actions had on others. So the cheapest path of least resistance is also the one that wrecks everything for everyone. But that’s why it happens that way! 😵💫
@@gravity00xIf its so insane then why dont you fix it clownboy?
*EDIT: Thank you for your overwhelming love. Yes, it is true that my father has some emotions that drove him, so maybe it is a different condition*
My father has pychopathy. He never let it effect his family except for tiny, hidden, isolated pockets. When someone you love suddenly acts like something out of a nightmare, and you can't explain it, and they go back to being normal after... And you're a child. You repress that shit. Over and over. I was in my late 30s when it all starting coming back out of me. When I confronted the rest of my family I realized that they had all been warped by him and 'forgiven' him. No one will acknowleged what he did to us, so I had to walk away from my family. What's worse is I know he hurt other people. Maybe more than that. But I can't prove any of it. I'm complete lost and I have no idea what to do. And yes, I am under the care of a mental health expert, that was my first move because the memories seemed so impossible.
You‘re a strong person. How did he act out?
Does he know he has it, or is that your guess? One of the major researchers on Psychopathy found out HE was a Psychopath via brain scans. Once he did, he modified his behaviors because he understood intellectually how some of what he did was harmful. You have to understand though, that if is is a Psychopath, it's not his fault. He was born that way. Taking it personally or expecting different is like expecting someone without legs to walk normally. It's impossible. Just like it is impossible for your father to change brain structures. Maybe if you look at your memories under the lens that he was not choosing to behave that way it will help. It's the difference between someone smacking you with a branch in anger, and a branch simply falling on you. Both hurt, but the one from the tree does not also hurt you emotionally. Your dad is simply a tree. I hope that helps.
@@shakeyj4523 My father experimented with the edges of human experience. Water boarding especially. He knew he was causing harm. It facinated him. No I don't hold him accountable the same way. My brain can barly process this level of betrayal anyways.
Psychopaths are born to be criminals. Evolutionarily programed criminals.
Sounds like your father has low emotional intelligence. That is why you should find it in your heart to forgive him.
you should not be worried about the possibility of being a psychopath. If you were one, you would not worry about it.
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Bingo
By that logic, surely everyone being worried is already sign.....
But what if someone is questioning being one? When I was young I self-diagnosed as one because I thought I had traits (I'm not actually one), but I wasn't worried about being one, I didn't really see anything bad with being one actually (I do have a tendency to look at everything with an impartial view). But I was still wondering a lot.
@@existentialchaos8A lot of autistic people have some mild to moderate to severe ASPD comorbidity.
So if you say you didn't care you might still have very low on the spectrum ASPD.
It's not normal, even for autism spectrum, to not care when you fantasize about torturing other humans and ending their lives.
My brother is a psycopath, as was my father. But my brother is much worse. After my other siblings died, he tricked me and my mum, we believed he loved us and the problem was his wife. In reality it was him, he had a plan and made us homeless without a penny. My mum in wheelchair and I was 18 without studies.
He used our grief to get his hands on all the money.
“Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid.”
I don't know what else to say.
could be an addict
In my family it’s my mother and brother who are psychopaths. My brother is also much worse. Buy my mother supports my brothers evil games. They stole my part of the inheritance and spread lies to my disability insurance, so they won’t pay me any disability money. I was also almost homeless, but could solve the issue with the disability insurance. It’s hell on earth with psychopaths in your own family.
How do you know they weren’t just narcissists?
Followers of budhism are ultimate humans. They are master of psychology.
Nobody can trick them cuz they don't need anything then themselves.
People will say "how do you know someone has a personality disorder if they haven't been diagnosed?" Well, because we suffer with them, and they harm us before they get help. We are the ones who let them know they aren't well in the head before a mental health professional does. We lived it.
Alot of people here just self-diagnose people though, simply because someone was cruel or uncaring or manipualtive or narcissistic to them. even just a partner who was an asshole to them or didn't love them
That's simply wrong and I don't think it's good idea to assume people in your life are just irreversibly and clinically "bad".
My father is a clinically diagnosed narcissist, he also was cruel to me at times. I know how that feels. But hadn't I known better I'd have self-diagnosed him as a psycho as well ... and would have been wrong.
@@sblbb929ok we will just call them…EVIL. Most of them go undiagnosed, doesn’t change who and what they are.
@@sblbb929 Honestly, it doesn't matter whether the self-diagnosis is correct. Only thing that matters is the suffering. Apart from the fact, that all of it is on a spectrum and overlaps are also possible. Not to mention that even the diagnostic manuals are regularly reworked on the subject.
@@amerubix185 Personality disorders cause harm to the one who suffers from it, if the person does not suffer from it, its NOT a disorder.
People can be just bad and evil people without any disorder, because being evil or bad has nothing to do with having disorder, expect the fact people WITH certain disorders, seem to be bad or evil often.
Even saying someone has disorder just because they are cruel is undermining the cruelity itself. "No, he isnt bad person, he just has *insert self diagnosed disorder*"
Flaws in society make it easy for psychopaths to blend in. Specifically how society promotes competition and dominance hierarchies. Sports culture, the educational system, celebrity worship and capitalism all allow psychopaths & sociopaths to thrive. Cut throat competition is rewarded and the people who are successful at competition are the people most socially rewarded and romantically desirable.
Yep, the erosion of egalitarian values in culture allow for functionally evil people to thrive.
Yup. In a nutshell, humanity can be easily summarized by: "if you ain't rich, then you ain't sheet. And if you ain't first, then you don't matter". If you want to "win", you must CRUSH everyone and everything beneath your boots. 💪😎✌️ No exceptions. That's mankind's most methodical methods over the millenia.
I'd argue that they're the ones that forged out those places for themselves in society. Psychopaths coming into power which means a higher ability to change social norms
@@RayneNikole Yep, psychopaths have no place in a culture with egalitarian values. It's not much of a secret that the most powerful people are sociopaths, malignant narcissists, or psychopaths, in positions that don't require ethics or morals. Even if they aren't with those disorders, the power, materialism, and insulation will make you one.
Also how people praise emotionless, calm and calculated people over the emotional ones in political and other discussions. I've been ciritized so many times by pears for discussing too emotionally, hence being the wrong one.
I worked for a psychopathic manager for 10-years, but didn't understand him as such until later, after researching his behaviors. My gut told me there was something different (unwelcoming or similar) about him from my first day on the job. Over the years there were many instances where his behavior made no sense or was unduly confrontational with others. Near the end of my time working for him I started questioning him about this or that action. Bad idea. He turned on me as I had seen him turn on a number of other people over the past years: with cool, calculated and unrelenting cruelty. It's truly hard to imagine how psychopaths operate if you aren't one. Ordinary people just don't think that way.
I had a psychopathic boss but he was mostly in a good mood beause the company was new and OH MY GOD could he sell..he'd sit down and make 1/2 million in a few hours. Nobody could touch him because he simply didn't care if the customer woudl be stuck with the stuff and pushed into bankruptcy,
I think most attorneys are that way only they're not selling. They're yanking and banking
Narcissists have those traits as well.
@user-hv6gt1nm4d He had other traits that went to the extreme. He kept everyone on the team off balance, suspecting each other of being in his confidence, and creating chaos in general. He's give orders before leaving town then grill people for having followed them when he returned, claiming he'd never given those instructions. People would look at each other with WTF eyes and deal with it. My story is that I didn't understand anything about such behaviors until he and I had parted company. I was damaged by his treatment of me and wanted to know what brought it to such a high level of cruelty. In my research I found he ticked all of the boxes for psychopathy but not sociopathy. He was too cool, too self-controlled, emotionally violent toward others but not physically.
@@infinitejest441Narcissists and psychopaths are the same. You can't be a psychopath if you don't have narcissistic traits.
The giver in any situation has to learn limits because takers do not have any
OP Should be the top comment!
Things my mother should have taught me☝️
"Takers"? Who are they?
@@Alsatiagent-zu1rx it's another way of saying 'users'.
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As someone who suffers with extreme severe anxiety I can totally relate to her. I would stop eating for days at a time as a punishment. I worry a lot about my life, everyone around me and pleasing everyone. It's absolutely crippling, so glad she got the help she needed, lovely young lady it's so sad that society has 1 in 3 people suffering mental health issues. I hope everyone seeks help
People need to realise that people with anxiety disorders have oversensitised nerves, it's not a simple case of manning up and getting over it.
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about how mushrooms and psychedelics treats anxiety, but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!
Yes, Doctor Greg Mushrooms he is a great man of God who has the great insight on psychedelic and mushroom. He will guide you on how to use mushrooms to get good trip.
Please, how do I reach doctor Greg?
He’s on the internet
I was with an antisocial on and off for five years. The takeaway for me was; listen to your intuition and how your stomach feels around an individual. I used to always get a nervous stomach around him. I thought it was love and attraction, but as time went by I realized it was my internal alarm system letting me know something was off. Observe and accept the actions of the individual. Don’t stay mired in fancy words and daydreams. Be honest with yourself about their behaviors. If you see that they mistreat others, but are kind towards you, realize that eventually they will also treat you poorly. Unfortunately, people who have these dark traits can also be very intelligent, charming, funny, interesting and seem to have compelling reasons for why they engage in bad behaviors. The mask is simply a tool they use to manipulate and predate others. What is behind the mask is the truth. They cannot show who they really are behind the mask because they know who they are is socially unacceptable. Trust your instincts with these individuals and get away from them as quickly as possible in a safe manner.
You summed up what I went through with a few narcissistic and toxic relationships. I need to review and analyze my own family and exactly what happened to me as a child and my conclusions were that it’s necessary to go no contact regardless if they felt that they needed to do that to me. I have my own narrative about how I’ve been treated in the past and it’s up to me to stop it and stay away from individuals that think it’s ok to bully, manipulate or control someone else. I only have less than a handful of toxic people that I have to deal with and my educating myself is helping me when I have to communicate. I’d rather not but sometimes the other person just won’t leave me alone and I know why. These toxic individuals have to have someone to abuse in order to play the victim, it doesn’t matter if you don’t participate because the weird wiring going on in their brain they are delusional and think that you are participating when you’re not. Thank you for sharing what I’ve been thinking.
To me, it was a strong headache. Every time I was around her, I would expect her to get angry at me out of nowhere. There was never an interaction where she didn't get angry at me. I tried to end things several times, and I KNEW something was off, but she would almost always manage to reel me back in.
I would tell her that we didn't get along, that we didn't have a connection, that there were other people for us, etc.
But she would always do something like tell me to hang out at Starbucks, go shopping with her at Walmart, invite me over for dinner, send me flirtatious messages. I never actually had a meaningful conversation with her the 6 months this lasted. Things didn't end well for me. I ended up blocking her everywhere I could and it took me probably another 6 months for me to get back to normal.
The only thing that really still bothers me was that I knew she was off, based on her temperament, the way she treated everyone, and the things she said to manipulate me (honestly the worst part was that it made feel uneasy how the things she said never matched the way she acted).
The thing that bothered me the longest was feeling shame for how I let her treat me poorly and not being assertive about it. I blocked her and never read any of her messages again because it scared me how despite the constant anger, criticism and manipulation made me feel horrible, she still managed to keep me hooked somehow.
Narcissists leave destruction
You should read the book « the gift of fear » it perfectly encapsulates what you described about needing to listen to your gut.
There’s a book out that speaks for itself called “My Family Can Kiss My Ass” right now I’m reading “Becoming Bulletproof “ very good so far 👍👍
When I first started getting into recovery, I couldn't feel what I thought everyone seemed to feel and felt didn't share the connection others appeared to have and t thought I might be a psychopath. When I asked my psychiatrist, they told me psychopaths don't care about being psychopaths.
it's possible that you might have other condition. Autism can be one of the reason.
It depends on the psychopath, a tetrad, or extremely narcissistic one - which most are, would care… Because if they were known as a psychopath within their community, they may not be able to manipulate and deceive people as well. So they would care. Therapists, psychotherapists, psychologists… Who don’t understand it fully, Spew a bunch of jargon and superficial rhetoric like “psychopaths don’t care if they’re psychopaths”. When someone uses bumper sticker rhetoric like that - I would be skeptical as to their comprehension of anything. I wouldn’t trust most of them.
@@BB-fo5mr Nah, psychopaths really don't care. I had two parents and one diagnosed girlfriend...the abuse they covertly heaped on me is astounding. And zero remorse or guilt is so extreme I actually fogive them because that is NOT normal at all...i have borderline and can be friends with psychopaths in crime but always have to dsimiss myself when i see they are getting out of hand..and they always do..because they jsut don't care..even about going to prison themselves. They don't care about anything except what's shiny, new, rich, gorgeous, etc. in front of them..like a dog.
indeed. the fact that you worried about being truly psychopathic shows that you aren't. it is possible to adopt those tendencies as neurotypicals, i believe, but it's most likely for survivability, which no one should be blamed for if that's the case.
@@stoneneils keep in mind there's a difference between caring about being a psychopath and caring about appearing as a psychopath. I'd assume if you're intelligent and a psychopath, you might not realize or care about being a psychopath specifically, but you might still want to not appear deranged to those around you as that generally would undermine your social position. Of course there might be utility in being perceived as a psycopath as well. Another thing to keep in mind is that the psychopath's that have been studied aren't representative of the entire group as it has been mostly criminals. It's extremely likely that most psychopaths aren't even noticed if we assume blending in is advantageous to their goals/interests, which means the only group that does end up noticed is the portion whose goals it doesn't benefit.
It’s interesting that we describe psychopathy as a disorder.
I think of disorders as things that, if you have them, you suffer because of them. Things like depression or schizophrenia are obvious disorders.
But with psychopathy, the suffering it creates is primarily in other people. Of course you can argue that a life with low empathy is unfulfilling, but it’s really not the sort of unmistakable personal suffering of depression or schizophrenia.
It seems like psychopathy is defined as a disorder from society’s perspective, an interpersonal perspective, whereas disorders in general are typically defined from an intrapersonal perspective. The locus of suffering is in two different places.
The clinical definition of disorder simply refers to traits that deviate from the "normal" population, rather than whether the trait itself is positive or negative.
NPD creates suffering in other people too.
@@ZeeZeeNg shouldn't that mean gay people also has disorder?
You have made up your own definition of disorder lol
@@ZeeZeeNg its a dum way to characterize . everyone will be vastly different from other if there was no social construct .
I think my mom is very altruistic, and I think she raised us to be very altruistic as well. I‘m personally trying to distance myself a bit from this altruism, because I think it brought me more pain than goodness. To give some examples: during my student days I empatized with a homeless guy that much that I made an appointment with him two days later to give him even more money (20 CHF, which was a lot for me at age 15). Or I lost a part of my friends group trying to socially integrate a pretty toxic guy.
Altruism can be really rewarding, but at a certain level its pretty stressful to feel responsible for everyone. So I wouldnt frame extreme altruism as a state which we should personally be aming for. It can be rewarding, but not in contrast to the effort you will put in (depending on where you are at the spectrum).
Just remembered it extends to animals, I spent whole afternoons trying to safe rainworms laying on the streets before a bycicle got them.
I don't think she ever said it was something to aim for. Of course what you are leaving out is that if everyone was like you, your experience would be much different.
« Nothing is more useful to someone than another human. » Barruch Spinoza
@@SneakySteevyTrained pet animals are more useful.
@@al-imranadore1182 not around me
I worked for a psychopath (sorry someone with psychopathy) for 8 years. It was bleeding obvious to me and most people that worked for him that he was some sort of psychopath (we debated whether it was borderline personality or psychopathy). He had major temper control problems and an extreme lack of empathy (I suspect it was both). Most people left after a year or two, I was the longest serving employee at 8 years.
He would go into a major rage if you didn't do things exactly as he asked, however he would then change his mind and decide the way he had asked you to do it was wrong and would have a major rage at you for doing things the exact way he asked, he was big into gas lighting like that. He also liked to send you on wild highly unproductive goose chases. I eventfully quit and went into competition with him (I've had my own rail modelling consultancy for the last 8 years). He used to have about 12 people working for him now he is down to 3. I am doing really well - I tolerated 8 years of high stress and constantly being raged at but it lead me to learning my current trade (rail modelling) which has given me my current high income and I now subcontract to a guy (effectively my boss) who I got on really, really well with. 8 years of hell followed by 8 years of heaven.
What’s rail modelling? ( if you wouldn’t mind telling me?
We really need to stop adding diagnoses to people that are obnoxious- it causes real life harm and stigma for persons that have a diagnosis.
I had a doctor that was likely a psychopath ½ a decade ago.He was very robotic & unemotional and he liked to try to gaslight his patients likely to feel powerful....He also couldn't keep good employees at his clinic & it ended up becoming a very toxic place that I was quite glad to get out of once I changed doctors after not too long.He seemed disappointed when I didn't take the bait when he was trying to get a fearful response from me when he mentioned about how bad the pandemic was going to be....I just got done with my tele-health visit with him & cheerfully said goodbye😁👍🏻.
How did you bear it for 8 yrs?
That’s narcissistic personality disorder not psychopathy.
My mother is a psychopath. No words can describe how I have suffered.
I'm so truly sorry. I hope you've broken free if she's still alive. 🙏🕊️
@@MsThe90 my father is a psychopath. Also my brother and sister. I feel you. I’m still learning how deep the scars go. Some people don’t want to do the work to heal - and I support them if that’s how they feel. It’s more than anyone can imagine. Besides, the problem was never with us. Surviving it as a child with even one shred of identity left is more epic a feat than we can imagine. People just don’t know.
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@@nunyabusySurprised you somehow made it out alive with not one, but THREE PSYCHOPATH CLOSE FAMILY MEMBERS.
Don't psychopaths like to off of people that AREN'T like them and KNOW what THEY ARE?
Leave no witnesses while indulging in the bored psychopath need for torture at the same time?
As someone who has been there, I am sorry. You are not nothing, and you deserve to be treated with the same light and love as any human.
My dad is a psychopath. All of the definitions, in this video, he fits. He ruined my and my sister’s childhood. It took a long, long time for me to find a life that was independent from his destruction. I haven’t talked to him in 26 years. Since that time, I’ve not only recovered but have started to thrive. I have a successful business and long term friendships. Nonetheless, even though I’m now middle aged, my dad continues to be the most destructive and evil person I’ve ever met.
stay true to the human side of you. he is not there for you you should NOT be there for him. he will consume you, & you will be lost. save yourself.
Me too. I escaped from my father with psychopathy four years ago. I had to also go no contact with my mom and three siblings because they were so well trained to give him what he wanted they could not protect me and my personal information and would become targets to be used as a way to hurt me. Destruction of the family and family members was our family activity.
No one leaves their family unless it’s completely necessary. Family is just too important to being a human.
Thanks for sharing your success story. I’m thriving since I got away. But still trying to build up a social network. Me and my two dogs stick together though. And we’re gonna make it.
I believe that there is a neural psycho chemical explanation for psychopathy that is attributable to either environmental or genetic abnormalities. My mother divorced my father when I was three; she told me later that it was because his personality had changed when he was in the Korean war. I can personally attest to his psychopathic behavior. He as much as confessed to killing his girlfriend because she would not get an abortion; as he put it, "I took care of that problem. Her body was found in the Missouri river downstream from a bridge that he would take me to fish. Just the way that he coldly referred to her death convinced me that he was a murderer. This incident was only one of many incidents that left me with no doubt that he was a psychopath.
@@robertperry4439The Korean war only brought his psychopathy to surface.
You're BORN with psychopath a.k.a ASPD Factor 1.
ASPD factor 2 is created, but usually in childhood to adolescence.
It's EXTREMELY RARE to have Factor 2 ASPD be created at the age of 19-20 years old, only 5 years away before the human brain is fully formed and the window of change is closed forever.
That's encouraging... I only broke away 5 years ago, and I'm already middle aged. I know I have a long road ahead of me, especially since my father made a point of keeping us all very close and connected as part of his smokescreen. Breaking away was a messy affair. I hope both you and you sister broke away together. I, for the most, part had to leave my siblings behind.
I believe that psychology should be a normal thing to teach in school to prevent early harming development. Just like ethics but that's just not enough.
@@lekoraxx5406 My first psychology class was in HIGH SCHOOL in the 1970’s. It saved my life. I got away from my dysfunctional family, learned how to deal manage toxic people and adapt to many predatory employers. I finished a Degree in Psychology and eventually a Master’s in Education. Never let anyone tell you that using your brain, or education isn’t important. They are gaslighting you and are only looking for ways to knock-out their competition.
I would even go further and argue that ethics shouldn't be taught at all or at least very differently. Western ethics specifically are very misleading, which is due to Plato's conception of aristocracy and becoming a superhuman. This has historically been the pretext to ideological individualism and the abandonment of our social traits for the sake of "ownness". But that's bs from start to finish. Instead, we should be taught that we are evolutionary adapted to living in small groups and that our singularistic way of perceiving the world fits living in such but not in differentiated societies, as we happen to live in today. We face so many systemic issues which could be avoided by just adapting a lifestyle that suits our non-individualistic, small group-oriented minds and the lack thereof even precedes the lastest trends in individualistic pathologies, like a rise in narcissism, depression, anxiety, alienation etc. You may wonder, but if two thirds of the population are frequently depressed, that's not a phenomenon the individual should have to deal with. It merely happens because of the lack of the right environment and this environment is not right but betrays itself with the notion that it is, over and over again...
@@randommaddlhat7358 In Missouri, in the 1970’s I took my first Psychology class as a Sophomore in High School. It was exactly what I needed. It saved me from the grips of my Choral Director influencing me to become a College Music Major since I was a gifted vocalist. That was his dream, not mine. I did finish a Bachelors in Psychology which I used throughout my life in so many jobs. Eventually I went back for a Masters in Education (TESL) to expand my skill set, update technology and career options. Philosophy, ethics and morality were a part of the Liberal Arts Curriculum required in University which was essential in this immoral world.
@@randommaddlhat7358 good point
@@randommaddlhat7358 Plato?? As a former ethics instructor, I don't even know where to start to say how much BS you are spouting.
Psychopaths don’t not care; they are INCAPABLE of emoting care. They lack the neurophysiology required for such a feeling.
"incapable" isn't the correct word , "less capable" would be more accurate.
@@62Cristoforo They are very charismatic IMITATORS of emotion, body language and MASK to manipulate their vulnerable prey. They are simply HUMAN PREDATORS.
I don’t care what you wrote
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@@ssing7113 Are you part of Trump MAGA’s DOMESTIC TERRORIST movement ? Is that what you care about?
@@ssing7113 What you don’t understand is, I care, and your hate, apathy and dysfunction can’t affect me and others whose energy is more powerful than yours. I know how to deal with bullies and mentally disturbed Anti-Social personalities. PROFESSIONALLY
A guy I used to date told me he was diagnosed from early age as psychopath and at first I didn't believe him but I started noting certain attitudes that were unusual for me, he was able to portray empathy on an intellectual level only but not able to actually have true empathy. In the end, I wasn't able to be with him because I knew that I needed a connection in an emotional level with a couple. I know that most people have these horrible stories about having a relationship with a psychopath, but I just don't see him that way, I know that he sees the world way different than I do and he is aware of his inability to feel concern about others, therefore he has learned how to navigate this world and how to understand the other people's point of view. I believe that if most psychopaths were treated at an early age, they would learn how to build healthy relationships with others.
Psychopaths can be so charming and superficial. There social, emotional interactions tend to be not authentic but can be extremely convincing. They can be excellent readers of situations and body language. However, they may intentionally mislead and disguise their lack of true emotional connection with imitated or learned responses to manipulate their partners. This can make them dangerous in relationships.
yeah psychopaths need education from a young age. that will help i think. it's so scary tho as a parent
Yep. People tend to think psychopathy means "born evil". But they're just as likely to be inherently evil as you're average person. It's all about what environment they grow up in, the types of parents, the moral education, early diagnosis and treatment.
Most people affected suffer in a unique way. The same way a deaf person does. They want to be normal and fit in but they know you are closed off from an entire aspect of life. There is a closed door that will never open to you and behind of which everyone you know seems to be happy
@@Carvgoo It is extremely difficult to comprehend another person’s “perceptual cognition”. Psychopathy is seen now as being on a spectrum. It is not a psychopathology that is truly capable of functional emotional relationships. They can imitate for long enough to have families, if that is their life goal, but often their partners end-up being deceived, realizing their spouse with psychopathy was not authentically and emotionally engaged with them. Their words and actions were superficial.
@@visi7891 I agree, but this psychopathy “socialization” will not change their neurological structure. It can modify some individuals on parts of the spectrum but there will always be the dangerous psychopaths, until our neuro science advances to treat them.
I feel like the thing people struggle to understand about psychopathy (ASPD) the most is the fact that it's literally nothing personal. They have nothing especially against you, they just simply care equally little about everyone.
ASPD is another label for (or at least, very similar to) sociopathy, not psychopathy.
@@kellymichelley I think ASPD (anti-social personality disorder) is the only official diagnosis, sociopath and psychopath are just describing labels, psychopathy you're "born with", sociopathy has a cause in the early childhood. And the ability of experiencing empathy is a bit different: psychopath totally lacks it, sociopath is capable of experiencing it to some extent, but can "switch it off" to do horrible things.
Please let me know how you think it's different!
no , A hard dissagree , a psychopath can easly feel irritated or hatefuk towards you .
and since they cant feel bond or love with people (they feel connection but not a bond , like a reptile if you would say) nor they can have empathy , they would only care about fulfilling their desires and what benefit them , witch is harming you.
so they feel hate and desire to hurt , byt not a desire to love and help , and their lack of empathy and ability to connect with other people ;makes makes it easier .
I think of them as sharks. Sharks are cool and fun to watch, but if you mess with them and get bit, it's a little bit your fault. It's in their nature to lash out. For example, one of the reasons my mother in law hates me is that I never give her any personal information she might potentially use against me. She would obviously use it eventually, and it would be my fault to not have the foresight to keep that chum out of the water. You can be around psychopaths, but you need an extra level of awareness and precaution.
@@عبدالرحمنغزال-ب8د I kinda agree kinda disagree. Or maybe you didn't get my point? They can feel hate and anger, and anger towards a specific person. But their tendency to feel hate and anger and simultaneously the lack of empathy is due to their neurological deviancy. They often do like to provoke people to get their reaction, just to have something happening (they get very easily bored). But _that_ is nothing personal, they just want some stimulation and they don't care it's happening by your's (anyone's) expense. That's not personal.
Having witnessed some extreme cases of malignant narcissism and struggled to describe their behavior behind closed doors, I can tell you several things:
* Extreme cases of any one disorder out of the dark triad of malignant narcissism, psychopathy, and machiavellianism as personality disorders tend to contain some degree of the other two,
* These individuals are a whole another ballgame to deal with compared to the usual jerks society prepares us to face; they are are *not* normal, and most of their damage gets done while you're trying to relate to them or trust them as if they were,
* Much as it's troubling that much of our society doesn't comprehend this psychology outside of fictional thrillers and horror stories, it backhandedly does say that most of us are differently wired from this at a very basic level; humanity on the whole isn't broken, we're better than this.
The more aware we are of these disorders, the better we can contain the damage they do when they appear in individuals with influence or power.
Yes, traits overlap in many disorders.
We are not taught about the red flags, But thanks to TH-cam, there are many videos on narcissism to Enlight us now
Brilliant!
amen and here-here.
@@MiteshDamaniawell instinctively we do... red flag ....red flag .... Pattern I might be dating myself but I didn't have TH-cam when I was growing up... Red flag red flag pattern stay away from that dude
Very informative. Probably is worthwhile pointing out that psychopaths are drawn to altruistic people! You're like beacon for them to target by being nice
They see us as weak.
@@Live1959-y7bWhat they don't realize is empathy goes both ways.
Yes and they love volunteers
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Lol reminds me of a pseudo-word for 2024?
Volentold
When you are helping out but being ordered around like a slave.
We are weak
"We all do better when we all do better"
-Paul Wellstone
Income inequality goes exactly to that.
And just say no? Ugh
@@sweet-bully psychopathic altruism
We all do better when we individually do better
Exactly...but only like 2 of us are actually about this lol🤣🤣🤣🤣
I recently became aware of how altruistic I am. I thought all people felt the same way I do, and it's heart breaking to discover how wrong I was. Litterally makes me gutted.
Some people are just evil
@shontose Obsereve.. and chose. Being altruistic is not a bad thing.. BUT you must find others like you.. it is very easy to have those who look for that sort of thing zero in on you like a lazer and take everything they can. I was lucky.. I was too poor for this.. but there are many many ways others can take advantage.
I’m so sorry I had this too. Realizing that I’ll naturally give more than others and most people only give when it suits them. I’m still wrapping my head around this one. It’s the story of the monk and the scorpion. It may be in the scorpions nature to sting but it’s in the monks nature to help, so don’t change your nature just because people can be terrible.
I feel you! Do what is healthy
Protect yourself, learn psychology, how to recognize those who have psychopathy. You are their prey.
I'm talking by experience.
I do also beg do differ a bit tho, viewing it from the other side where, psychopathy and altruism are two survival strategies.
From an evolutionary perspective, it could make sense for both cases:
- People with psychopathy would have little to no empathy towards others, allowing them to take out competition more easily and producing their own offspring that way.
- People with altruism would have the community on their side, so whatever offspring they may have produced, had a higher chance of surviving because others would be more inclined to help you out naturally.
While it may seem as if one is "selfish" while the other is "selfless", both could be considered "selfish" as the entire goal would be the survival of _your_ genes.
Agreed 100%. Such a shame I had to scroll down so far for a decent analysis.
I don't agree on the second part. Most ppl will not help you just bc you helped them- not on things that matter anyway. It is a survival strategy though, mainly for others not yourself unlike psychopathy. Alturists are needed very much as they help the marginalised humans that "normal ppl" refuse to help or look into
@@PentoCostal-rh5zd It's not really a case of helping out because you've helped them.
It's a case of helping others because "you are part of their group" (they see benefit of having you around).
You can still see this concept in say, social media, where if you "attack" one person of a group, suddenly the entire group will jump on your back.
I agree that we should help marginalized humans but I also think we should help them by offering equal chances rather than equal results.
Sadly, modern society tends to lean more towards wanting equal results.
@@FinlayDaG33k but the irony of alturism is that your group can disown you for going against them but feel like you need to (like a moral stance). But a psychopath can pretend to be an alturist just fine bc they can fake emotion and pretend to be good to manipulate others, also they have no moral stance so they will do what the group wants or be powerful enough to change the group's moral standards (usually by fear and submission which an alturist cannot do).
But you are right, i'm also for equal opportunities too. The problem that if you really want to have equality you need to help out marginalised communities not only with jobs but also mental health and better environment- it's what makes them have a worse start at life and also jobs. I guess there is a way that gives all people help without compromising quality/expertise
@@FinlayDaG33k and you are correct, dogpiling is an effective strategy to help out your member of the group. Sadly though, someone who struggles with boundries and helps out too much as ranked lower in the group and usually befriend other kind people = not having enough aggressiveness and attackers when you need them
Extreme empathy (or sensitivity to others' feelings of discomfort), like the extreme lack of it, can be clinically significant. Many people suffer because of this trait. These individuals are generally not altruistic but very insecure, exploitable, and it's easy to trigger high levels of shame in them (which makes them vulnerable to emotional control). Some of their actions may be labeled as “generous,” but they stem from fear (fear of being bad people or harming others if they don't go to extremes to alleviate others' discomfort). As a psychology researcher, I would argue that this is the actual oposite of psychopathy. If psychopathy is an inherited temperament, its opposite would also have to be an inherited temperament. What she refers to as the opposite of psychopathy is not a temperamental inclination but a cluster of behaviors and (good) rationalizations related to cultural norms adopted as a result of the socialization of the individual in accordance to altruistic values.
For example, a typical person (not at either extreme) would feel comfortable setting limits for their child, even if it causes temporary discomfort. A highly sensitive person towards others' suffering, on the other hand, wouldn't be able to, to the detriment of the child's healthy socialization, obviously.
What would you call someone with extreme empathy to the point they can't discipline or say no, as you described in your comment? Is there a name for that disorder?
@@hauntedstormbird ⬜Normal people would call him/her a weakling.
@@ivapolansky8004 Not asking what normal people would call it, I wanted a professional's advice. But thanks.
Yeah. But you CAN be extremely altruistic AND be very conscious. I couldnt give a f--k since my teens what other people think I should be doing. I just do what I think is best. I dont.. do things because I feel guilty or need to please, I just feel very intense empathy, and I think its logical to help if one has the skills and resources, and I try to kickstart equally good behaviour in others for the benefit of the hive. When it is ingrained in one to help, one will go beyond one's capacities.. and I'm a VERY strong person. But yeah sometimes it's hard to learn not giving too much. I get better with practise, trying to help less. What helped, bizarrely, was living in a country with the highest per capita psychopathic mindsets in Europe, maybe the world. Estonia. I came as a treehugging extravert, now I try to stay away from people. Estonia is H.E.L.L. for everyone with a soul.
Thank you so much and you are absolutely right. Extreme emphathy is so awful. I got into depression solely bc of it, wondering why nobody gives a d*** about ppl starving and getting into life altering, traumatic situations? It also makes it hard to stand up for yourself or even others bc like you said we are afraid and easily gaslighted into denying our emotions. It's really counterproductive in a world that literally doesn't care. I would consider it as a disorder seeing how everyone glides by irl. I cannot fathom lying or using others or fake small talk which is like, very necessary
It's important that, when you do something worthwhile for people, animals, earth, you need to be discrete and shut-up about it. Else it can just be a new variant of self-promotion. A flavor, of the many flavors, of narcissism. I saw this sh!t all the time in, supposedly, spiritual fellowships.
Well said. Just what Jesus said.
Sometimes sharing original/new/exciting ways to help can help others use it as well. An example is Auriikatarina here on TH-cam she cleans the homes of the depressed for free. Ot has led others to do this as well in their own countries and even led to international collabs doing this
I think it's be great if people promoted it to inspire young people to do the same actually. I think we want to help people more when we see other people help people. That's a big part of why people even are attracted to churches.
@@ZZ-qy5mv I think it is great for groups or organisations to talk about what they do. But if individuals start humble-bragging, it turns sour.
@@markaurelius61 'When I die, under no circumstances base an entire religion around me'
- Jesus (disputably)
In essence psychopaths lack what makes us humans human, or humane. A deviation.
A defect.
@@presence5426 That's one way to put it.
@@BlondeManNoName The more we make excuses for the Sociopathic Class, there more damage they can do.
@@presence5426 No excuses.
@@BlondeManNoName Ok. Some people will say Psychopaths are human, just different. When in reality they're defective humans and dangerous.
my upbringing and memories of development has strong ties into psychopathy. however, my habits and practices of building peace has strong ties to altruism. this blend of the proposed spectrum is something I'm learning to value within me. also accepting that my psychopathic nature isn't wrong, just can be dangerous if allowed to construct my beliefs without mindfulness.
@@thehunt510 Mindfulness training is the “enemy of woke” lol. It is the perceptual treatment and life training to a more satisfying self journey.
Me too. I like how you state at the end, though we may he psycopathic we try to integrate the morals and integrity, well said
Take Away: NOTE: Policies that promote general well being & abundance create environments of abundance & well-being. (As opposed to scarcity & selfishness at the detriment of others.)
But life is a zero sum game! /s
Good highlight ✨️
Lead poisoning
Wonder if "Conservativism" is psychopathic?
I don't believe you truly got the meaning of that sentence. Policies that promote general well being & abundance are the ones that grows the economy as well, which is not a zero sum game of limited resources, rather a society of voluntary exchanges between individuals, which also have their individual rights respected.
Donating or volunteering is not the same as being taxed, the latter is not voluntary, and doesn't go directly towards helping people.
This is a good and thoughtful description. And I like that it doesn’t just focus on psychopaths. It’s easy to fall into that trap in today’s world, where the news seems so dominated by bad actors. For myself, I’ve learned to be more careful than I used to be, but I also try my best to be kind unless experience tells me I shouldn’t be. Human social relationships aren’t easy, are they?
They are very easy for normal people. It would be a lie to say they weren't. Relationships are only hard for or with neurodivergent people.
@@gravity00xsometimes it might be that we just didn't learn the skills to get along with people. once you figure that it will get easier
They can be easy or difficult. It all depends on the people you're around, and the state you're in. Most of the time, people are OK as long as you're not in a bad place. Things always change so that is something to look forward to
Psychopaths are fascinating to me. The idea that a person can't physically feel empathy for another is something I can't understand on a personal level, even if I can on a scientific one.
I'm autistic and supposedly have that notorious "double empathy," and have worked in two career paths simultaneously my entire adult life that aim to help others, to my own obvious personal detriment (depending on your definition of quality of life). Many people do. What do psychopaths think we get out of it other than contentment from knowing that another suffers less?
Psychopaths understand empathy and altruism on an intellectual level. They're not stupid.
Imagine you woke up this morning and a family member visited you. But you just didn't feel anything inside, you're not hsppy to see them but not unhappy either. Would you suddenly not understand why others might feel happy seeing family members? Just because you feel numb?
The reality is that most people with psychopathy have extremly muted emotions, so they know the feelings just on a far diminished level. So they have the experience and are very capable of understanding why people feel the way they do. They just don't do it themselves 99% of the time
Ok random altruistic person. Can you help me? How to start studying with interest when you like to do other things more?
I am extremely empathetic and it is very painful. I also look around and find everybody crazy and psychopathic in many instances. I find it crazy how people will walk by a homeless person and not bat an eye. Meanwhile, i oftrn will struggle to fall asleep thinking of things like that over which i ahve no power
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What a beautiful soul you have 😀👍
Sounds like something a psychopath would say.
Just kidding
I cannot walk by a homeless person with-out tears 😢 its very painful
True empaths will empathize with psychopaths. I don’t mean that to be funny. Do you at least feel sorry for psychopaths? Understand them? Empathize with them? Because I am an empath and I do.
Our culture neglects the cultivation of real intuition and that allows so many psychopaths to thrive.
And connection.
100%
Thats opposite of reality, "real intuition" is what makes psychopaths invisible, thats why everyone felt good about Ted Bundy, even in the interview room he managed to charm people beyond doubt he is OK and charming guy, and here you are, spreading the word of needing people to trust the intuition.
@@Kormac80 We can’t rely upon what you are thinking of as “intuition”, when we already have researched data, and assessment tools from decades of managing psychopathy, historically and in our modern cultures. It is the political elite who refuse to use these tools for fear it will LIMIT THEIR POWER.
We need to have people observing children who have antisocial tendencies.
This was very interesting. There are practices in Buddhism aimed at generating more love and compassion, called the Four Immeasurables. I myself practiced these for four years and my personality completely changed, I went from overreactive and hypersensetive to rarely ever taking things personally and holding a grudge, I also become more open and friendly towards others.
Buddhas teachings are so insightful
This practice can be a struggle. Good for you for sticking to it
It's strange how cruel they are in countries where buddhism is the main or or one of the main religions. Like in the country of enfin nobel prize winner ang suu kyi. Driving out and mutilating people's babies even. Another injustice that doesn't matter to the rest of the world.
Interesting, as a Christian I’ve noticed similar changes
@@AP-pm9qy Interesting, its probably because you are focussing on love and compassion and opening your heart, which is the same thing.
I’m a clinical psychologist and psychoanalytic therapist. Just to clarify, the term psychopath/psychopathy is a distinct psychoanalytic term. This I of course endorse! The DSM-5 uses the term “anti-social personality disorder” Nowhere does the DSM speak of psychopathy. The DSM’s anti-social PD criteria and psychopathic diagnostic criteria have some overlap, but not fully. The DSM describes observable symptoms whereas the psychoanalytic term of psychopathy is primarily interested in internal psychological state. I don’t agree with her statement that psychopathy is purely a Neuro-developmental condition. The psychoanalytic and psychiatric evidence does not support that. People with psychopathy come from families where there is either significant abuse/neglect or a deep lack of emotional attachment/coldness and exploitative dynamics by the parents. It is not just a neurological role of the dice. Still, interesting research!
From a neurobiological perspective up regulation of RPL10P9 and ZNF132, and downregulation of CDH5 and OPRD1, as well as astrocytes, RPL10P9 and MT-RNR2 seem to be the base of psychopathy, with the dopaminergic system being responsible for up to 93% of all psychopathic behaviour. Epigenetics doesn’t play that much of a role so society/environment has little influence
"People with psychopathy come from families where there is either significant abuse/neglect or a deep lack of emotional attachment/coldness and exploitative dynamics by the parents." - Well, gee, no kidding. Where do you think the psychopath got his genes from??? The tendency runs in families and the diagnosable psychopath just happened to inherit a larger "dose" of those Machiavellian genes. The social sciences in general have this huge blind spot where heredity is concerned that traces back to the tabula rasa intellectuals of the Enlightenment which frequently leads them to ignore the obvious. And in the psychological sciences, this blind spot is nowhere more pronounced than in the psychoanalytic tradition which has often sought to blame the patient's dysfunctions on his childhood environment although twin and adoptee research almost always shows that to be the weakest influence on adult behavior or performance.
Thank you for the clarity... What you've stated makes more sense.
Psychopathy is basically just an adaptive strategy for a r-selected ecology/fast life history
I agree that it’s not only a neuro-developmental condition. I think more research needs to be done on how society enables psychopathic behavior. Many aspects of our society do. We can’t only point fingers at these people without finding out societies role in supporting them. Many times, abusive people have enablers and are able to successfully defame their victims and gain support of others, which just reinforces their behavior.
When someone is born without the ability to empathize is heartbreaking because we know the damage that causes.
being born a psychopath is a gift while altruism is a curse. i can tell u d life of an altruist is often very painful. we constantly feel sad for those in need and we spend most of our resources doing so and yet we cant fix society. we certainly get taken advantaged by many and especially by psychopaths due to our kindhearted nature
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Remember the words of our Lord: "Be ye therefore wise as serpents yet harmless as doves." We have to be realists about human nature and we have to hold people accountable for their deeds (behavior). Unfortunately, sometimes we have to learn the hard way that men are not angels.
It's crazy how cultural narcissism is normal because it's widely accepted and psychopathy is a disorder because it has to do with few people. Fascist supremacist attitude.
You are right on that. Imagine an empath against specisim so numbed to become a psychopath
@@michaels4255 The fictional Abrahamic "God" is literally a psychopath to put it mildly. I'm not talking about your idea of what "God" is, I'm talking about what is literally written in the Torah/Bible.
I was just telling my husband last night how I always feel so badly for others that I offer to do things for them even if it means I will be putting myself in some sort of very stressful or painful position and I just can't help it. But I also have PTSD and anxiety so I then later panic about what I committed to but am still unable to not do it. I'd rather do what is best for someone else than what is best for me. It has been a real problem in my life sometimes and has caused problems for me and those around me.
Read up on Martyr Syndrome, or Saviour Complex.
I feel you. One thing is important to remember that helping ppl is NOT your responsibility, you can help them get to safety but anything after that is optional. Remember that you are obligated to perserve yourself. What makes me realise that is when i give people a lot but i got nothing back irl, the exception is the help by other helpful ppl
Codependent?
@@macnchessplz yeah
Abigail has absolutely nailed it in condensing a myriad of behavioral patterns into two broad categories. All too often people are more focused on a diagnosis versus actually identifying an understanding the actual behavioral patterns. I will definitely be recommending and forwarding this video to my students around the world. There are so many overlaps between her content/distinctions and those of professor Klaas - especially in the business environment.
Thank you for making great content like this possible
Why do you want to do that?
For real.. why?
@@anderandersson5229Why do anything?
@@HidingFromFate To find a partner. Or to help your kids in life.
Or to make your parents proud.
For the feeling it brings you. Whatever that is.
But im asking why someone wants to share this video with people for educational purposes?
He’s a teacher, evidently. See “my students around the world.”
Ten experts will give ten different explanations of the difference between psychopathy and sociopathy (psycopathy is innate and sociopathy is learned is a big one). Also, I've seen a lot of evidence that more affluent people are actually less generous. If you recognize a lot of charitable activity of the wealthy as the tax avoidance / influence buying that it actually is I think that dynamic becomes more clear.
Agreed
I got ptsd and quit coding..the day i went homeless (for just a month in 2015) i discovered poor people are SO MUCH KINDER than people not even rich..just with good jobs.
exactly. ppl who think bill clinton and bill gates are beneficent and charitable are beyond naive. "Charities" tend to be tax shelters at best and low overhead profit industries at worst (imagine doing nothing other than saying youll give donated money to some heartwarming cause and then keeping whatever percentage you think is "fair" and justify it as "operating expenses"
I've seen many affluent people who are generous.
If you meet a psychopath there gonna be selfish whether rich or poor.
That is because poor people can't AFFORD to be generous. So if they do give, it says a lot. But when you are rich, no matter how generous you are, people still won't think it is enough. I swear those who complaints about the rich not giving enough, are also the ones that never gave anything back to society.
Psychedelics saved me from years of uncontrollable depression, anxiety, alcoholism, smoking, and illicit pills addiction. Imagine carving heavy chains for over a decade and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. Believe it or not, in a couple of years they'll be all over for treatment of mental health related issues.
Congrats on your recovery. Most people don't realize that psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives.
To be honest, mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on the planet and it is natural, they serve in many ways not only for mental related issues.
Can you help me with a reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. It is very hard to get a reliable source here in Switzerland. Really need!
Yes, Sporeville. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD, and addiction... Mushrooms definitely made a huge difference to why I'm clean today.
Shrooms saved me from meth addiction too. Psychedelics could really help addicts a lot!
The reason most people do good is because they benefit from it in a spiritual sense. So if seen from that perspective , it can be argued that we are selfish
You do good for that reason and you think everyone acting good under your criteria and isn't true. Someone said the lion think everyone is under its condition.
I do good things because make me feel good not to be recognized o make me feel deserve heaven. I'm not religious person and most of my kind acts I keep it for myself or I do things under the shadows without a face and name.
@@cassiellightman I agree. My point was that people do good because one way or another they believe that it’s gonna benefit them. Spiritually or materially
People do altruism because their brain releases happy chemicals when they do... Obviously thats how the brain works, there is literally no other way for us to operate
@@michaelryan2416what if u do good because you wouldn't like a person coming back to that
If they had an extra bad day, why make it worse by them coming back to something awful?
Or why not do something that makes them laugh when they come back to it or see it?
I guess maybe its just second hand happiness or something that's a motivator :<
Where did that need for second hand happiness even come from tho, how did I get it and find comfort in it, just empathy??
Also the second hand happiness is affected by the outcome not actually being as great so, it turns into a lot of guilt (so nvm I guess the outcome motivates us to do that good oops)
I just saw someone feel happy and I know what it's like to feel happy too, so I feel proud for them
Apologies for my unstructured sleep deprived ramblings, nearly had a seizure trying to reread it
Also wait WAIT last incoherent ramble thing, doing things the selfish way is "doing things for only me",
But with empathy what if u view other people as you too, the same, another consciousness the same as u, so u would consider "me" to be so many other "me"s
And empathy is not selfish, maybe u could be biased towards one set of experiences but it still is "me" with all other people
It's selfish... But not selfish...
WAIT WHAT?? idek I need to sleep
Maybe biased towards our own biases..
I had a conduct disorder in my childhood and teenage years. Long ago I was diagnosed with PTSD, BPD. ASBD NARCISSISTIC and HISTRIONIC PD. With ASPD I obviously have a measure of Psychopathy. I know that I have and often control or manipulate people, I am rarely aggressive physically but highly aggressive verbally and impulsive. I have had a range of Psychological and Psychiatric treatments for at least 30+. years, both In patient and outpatient. I am now discharged as being too severe and complex to treat. A major factor in that is my ability to mask while controlling and manipulating. I have suicidal ideation and have attempted suicide with definite intent. And yet I can so easily become a real charmer!
“If only everyone were more humble like I am…”
that would be amazing.....
but, if you could set aside your humility for a moment, could you please tell me why EVERYONE thinks I'm paranoid?
infact i'm the MOST humble!
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@@WaterproofSoap Cause you are paranoid.
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I feel we help psycho hide themselves because we hide our intuition from ourselves
This comment makes sense, I think the same
I mean, they appear outwardly normal, and they're pretty rare so it's hardly rocket science.
Hunches and intuitions are wrong often
@@Infoagemage is that your opinion or do you have anything to back your claim
Absolutely. Especially when you encounter them firsthand, or god forbid you have them as a parent. It takes a long time to realize just how messed up they treat you. No one wants to believe in real monsters.
This lady is the best I've ever seen on big think
Very simple, articulate, humble not braggy about her knowledge
All of BT is propaganda helping those without a conscience.
I experienced depression at times. Working at an acute rehab as nothing more than as an assistant, i found relief assisting patients. My brain rewarded me for helping others.
You can have very bad experiences that make you numb and not trust other people.
It's caused by so called normal people aka cultural narcissists. The fake people who are involved in specicism
While pyschopathy exists, this does not mean that everything we do isn't done for selfish reasons; psychopaths lack "enlightened self-interest." Even the most altruistic person derives some pleasure in being altruistic - the question I raise is: If that positive feedback loop didn't exist, would that person still be altruistic? Certainly some would, but it is my belief that the percentage at this edge of the spectrum is about the same as the percentage who are at the other edge - truly psychopaths.
If the brain structures are not there, and there are no alternate structures that can fill in, it simply does not exist.
In therapy they try to teach enlightened self interest cognitively to psychopaths and people with ASPD
@@orbismworldbuilding8428 A true psychopath would simply use these lessons to learn how to take advantage of people. In other words, they'd use enlightened self-interest as a weapon. "They will do this for me if I convince them it's in their self-interest."
@@shakeyj4523 While some brains are seriously different from the "norm," they are extremely rare. I'd venture to say that, barring some form of birth defect (be it genetic or environmental in nature), 99% of babies have the same "brain structure."
In other words, I'd say that the vast majority of psychopaths learned lessons that convinced them this is the best way to live.
@@laurendoe168 Psychopaths ARE outliers. That's the point. And no it is not a learned behavior. That's not how the brain works.
I wanna be selfish for my own benefit but there's a point where I can't help myself to help others big or little things and I assume I'm not the only one thinking like this
You sound like the type that takes care of themselves for others.
Rather than takes care of themselves for themselves.
Altruistic people sometimes think putting themselves first is selfish when it's simply self care. Don't guilt yourself!
That sounds pretty normal to me.
@@HAPPLIP I get this. I used to be a severe people pleaser. I still care for people but there's those people that care too much about themselves - self-centered/callous - and call it "self-care". In a way, it's a form of self-sabotage.
@Pandcakes936 100% agree.
You can never predict who is genuinely doing self care vs. those manipulating the word for personal gain.
They're out there, and all we can do is recognize and move onto the genuine people out there.
Remember that guilt is useless, even if the others are right. What is done is done, you can't go back anyway so better go on.
Civilization needs to be protected from psychopaths.
And you liked your own comment
Psychopathic traits are super important stone age era they played big role in survival of civillisation 1:47 1:47
@@Ariyan_1709 How can you tell that they liked their own comment? Lol
@@Elliecham can't reveal my secrets
@@Ariyan_1709 Oh come on. Makes me wonder what else you can see? 👀
Thanks!
I worked in nursing homes for much of my adult life and I absolutely loved it. Helping others who are at this fragile state in life. I really did start putting myself in their situations as well as my coworkers situations. It takes a lot of compassion and energy to meet the needs of highly dependent patients with a 1/11 ratio. Even 1/1 has it's challenges with a combative or restless patient. Despite the hardship i went home everyday feeling drained and my heart filled with utter joy. Im a STHM now. I took this role on for many reasons. A lot based on trauma, anyway Ive come to learn the resources we're provided just aren't enough. Not in today's society. I think it has to do with the aging population and political issues we're seeing today. Theirs not a lot of compassion for others outside of extreme views and agendas. Anyway, God bless you and your work. ❤
It does make me feel good to help people in need, but it also makes me feel good to help animals that are in need. Baby turtles, bumblebees, I keep my eyes open for them.
Bravo! You're an Angel. The best person in this comment section, or dare I even say, alive
The Bumblebees and turtles Thank you.💚
@@Lynn-gd6ti i always like turtles,i even touched a big one in our neighbor's house where there is a funeral and i am inspired to buy 1 pack bottle of baby turtle toys in childhood
For anyone interested in the brain regions @ 0:59 it’s the rostral anterior cingulate* cortex!
0:10 I agree with this statement. Most ppl are selfish by nature. I have never met one that wasn't! Different levels of selfishness along with greediness etc. and no, you don't have to be a psychopath because you're selfish that can exist on it's own.
Agreed. Just look at the world today and how it always has been. No way will she convince me of something else
Caring about people… IS also selfish… wanting or acting towards ANYTHING that makes you “feel good” FALLS on the spectrum of selfishness… it goes from “self preservation” out to “greediness”… it’s NEVER black and white… we are all “locally selfish”
That's industrial society which almost forces people to think like this. How can people care about other people, especially in cities, when the reciprocity is rarely there or non existent and if you do something which is inherently good, it can be perceived as weakness or done with ulterior motives? It's almost a survival tactic to be adopted when others take it as the "norm", but there's a nuance between selfishness and enlightened self love.
Look at the Masai or other tribes unaffected by the system. Many people in Western countries label them as inferior or uncivilized, when they are wealthy in the way they live in small communities, taking care of each other, living with animals in harmony and developing wisdom.
We also had a similar approach to Life. Maybe it's time to co-create way of living which is sane. Even if there are bad individuals, there are still many share good values inside but might find difficulty in expressing them with balance, where they find themselves, or so it may seam. The world isn't all bad or good, we all have flaws and qualities and it's what makes us human.
Selfishness has nothing to do with non-psychopaths. Selfishness is a human survival aspect. For instance, if there is a disaster after a short time ( 3 days ) without food or water everyone will go into selfishness mode. Most non-psychopaths are not selfish during a crisis. In Fact, in bad times most people help others. But, if it comes down to live or die for themselves or their families they will become selfish and do things they would not do normally. However, the psychopaths are selfish and do bad things all the time in all matters of life no matter the circumstances.
I actually have compassion for people who are less fortunate. I feel bad for them and often wonder what happened to them.
some are less fortunate because thieves have been robbing their moneys or either made a mistake of bankruptcy in their financial stability but i don't judge them cuz no one is perfect and i believe everyone deserves second chances,some are babies and kids who got abandoned on the streets
I can tell you that not everyone is selfish. I am a sensitive person. That is a psychology term. It means that I am empathetic and sympathetic to others. I genuinely always care about others and I am very upset when I see people hurt or struggling. If I can help someone, I will. I believe that we should all care about each other. I feel this deep in my heart.
To me, psychopaths are the opposite of me. I studied psychology to figure this out. They don't have empathy or sympathy. They only care about their own desires. They are absolutely devoid of feelings for others. They will use other people, hurt other people or even kill other people with no guilt, shame or remorse. People are just objects to them. They have absolutely no feelings for other people. They have no conscience.
The reason I studied this is that I have always felt like I was a mark for really bad people. They gravitate to me to try to use me or hurt me. I know that this is because they see that I am a kind person. So, they believe that I will be an easy mark. I finally studied psychology to see what makes really bad people really bad. I found out that the worst of the worst are psychopaths. Serial killers are psychopaths but not all psychopaths are serial killers. Many are business leaders (one in five per a university study), bad politicians, bad religious leaders, anyone who only cares about themselves. They are selfish to the point that they will do whatever is required to meet their goals which are always goals that are good for them and very bad for other people.
With all of this, I have realized that everything wrong in this world is because of psychopaths. Climate crisis, homelessness, both drug problems cartels and Big Pharma, racists, homophobes, hateful incels, every type of bad person. Incels frequently turn into serial killers. They blame women because women don't like their hateful nature. Psychopaths are tearing our world apart. They don't care about the consequences so long as they can get what they want.
Psychology states that 1 to 3% of humans are psychopaths but their number is very low. I know this because they have only studied violent criminals and business leaders. They haven't studied the general population. When you study other types of studies, polls and even just watch to see which people have psychopathic traits, you find that the number is much higher. I would place the number at 20 to 30% for all of humankind. Your chances of encountering a psychopath are actually very high. You have met them. You just didn't recognize them. They may have even smiled in your face while trying to convince you to do as they pleased. They are charming because they know how to con people. They know how to play a role to get others to do as they wish. It is only when you get close them that you figure out that they aren't nice people at all.
"psychopaths are the opposite of me. I studied psychology to figure this out." - You are lucky. I learned this through the laboratory of life! However, I disagree that the number is 20% or more of the population. Society would be completely dysfunctional! Psychologists do in fact derive their numbers from studies of the general population (okay, admittedly they often substitute college students for the general population, but even so...), not just criminals and business leaders. In fact, the incidence of psychopathy is considerably higher among criminals and even business leaders (and especially in the financial industry - perhaps psychopaths are strongly attracted to money). However, the normal part of the bell curve certainly includes many people who are closer to the psychopathic tail than to the exact center of the curve, but are not so selfish and unfeeling that they would ever constitute clinical cases.
@@michaels4255 Well, maybe it is just that most of the psychopaths live in the United States. When I see that the university study said 20% but most CEOs are psychopaths, I see that the number is actually much higher. This can be seen by their traits. So, they price gouge, pay their employees low wages, keep most employees under 40 hours so that they will not have to provide health insurance for them, have their employees perform dangerous work that causes them injuries (look at how bad it was with Bezos. Doctors were reporting him to OSHA). This is all because of their extreme greed. That is psychopathy.
There is also the fact that we are at the beginning the sixth extinction event. This is because Big Oil has lied since 1959. They covered up the fact that they knew that global warming would occur. Now, when the "Doomsday Glacier" breaks free, the next "Great Flood" will happen. I anticipate that this will happen in 2025. The fact that the Big Oil execs didn't even care that this could kill their own family members is psychopathic. Even the fact that Big Pharma is about to collapse our economy due to the prices they are charging for Ozempic and other weight loss drugs is completely psychopathic. No concern for the consequences of their actions. No empathy for others. These are the traits of psychopaths.
The captains of industry also called the robber barons started the capitalist system in the United States in the 1800s. They were psychopathic. They told the American worker that if they worked hard, they, too, could achieve great wealth. What they didn't tell the workers was that these robbers were born into wealth and connections that the common man and woman did not have. Most people who are not born with a silver spoon will never achieve great wealth. They will live mediocre lives and very likely die young. They caused workers to die of injuries just as Bezos did. The robber barons, BTW, had greater wealth by comparison than our billionaires of today.
Then, the right-wing politicians make every effort to work to help those with great wealth and against the common man including workers. They are also climate deniers even though we are close to the end of humanity because of the global catastrophe being caused by fossil fuel use. The politicians are bought by lobbyists. So, they make laws to help the very wealthy and hurt the poor and middle class. That is psychopathic.
Last, psychopathic religious leaders who brainwash their congregations so that they can bilk them. This is especially true of televangelists and mega churches where they teach the opposite of the teachings of Jesus because money is God to them. They have caused the deaths of many just as psychopathic serial killers have done. They created the prosperity gospel that goes against the teachings of Jesus in order to bilk people. People believed them, paid their tithes, then died when the pastors didn't cause them to be healed. The pastors did not care at all. They threw prayer requests in the trash. There are many today with religious trauma because of the treatment that they received in these churches. Organizations have sprung up to help them to overcome their trauma. Psychopathy again.
All of it is brainwashing as with any cult. It is the same as Charles Manson or Jim Jones. The common man is brainwashed into believing that they should go along with those things that are against their best interests. Today's robber barons make every effort to ensure that this is the law of the land because they only care about what they desire, great wealth. They have no empathy for others and no concern for the consequences of their actions. Thus, we are at the beginning of the sixth mass extinction, we have homelessness caused by private equity firms who only care about wealth, the major drug addiction problems that we have which were started by Big Pharma. Everything wrong in the world can be attributed to the psychopathy of the wealthy psychopaths. BTW, psychopaths seek leadership positions in order to enact their desires. They can manipulate people when they have the power to do so.
Although most people choose not to recognize this, American psychopaths have destroyed the world. We don't have long before that will become evident to those who choose not to recognize this fact. It is sad that most people have been so indoctrinated by their lies that they go along with them even though they are hurting themselves by doing so. I don't know if it is a blessing or a curse that my IQ is very high so that I do recognize this.
I agree with you 100% and this is why I have been studying psychology for a couple of decades. Until I realized that not everyone can experience such an extreme level of empathy for others as I do, I wasn’t able to comprehend the inability to feel empathy or the ability for selective empathy in others. There are some real evil people in this world but many times they are hard for others to identify if they aren’t highly empathetic people. It is sad that empathetic, kind people must always be on guard around others to protect ourselves from these folks. If we don’t then they easily target us. Only someone who has experienced this over and over again would be able to comprehend the number of psychopathic individuals in this world. My personal experience leads me to believe the number of psychopaths in this world is around the percentage you stated. Sadkt, I feel having high levels of empathy is a curse and I would gladly give most of mine away. I wish we lived in a different world where empathy was abundant and psychopathy was rare.
I think in the context of psychopathy it's important to distinguish empathy and compassion. Empathy, like psychopathy, is an inherent trait. Something you're born with. Compassion, like cynicism, is a learned and encouraged skill.
Isn't empathy due to a higher concentration of mirror neurons? That would explain why the woke people are so negatively influenced by the psychopathic woke leaders, they're very empathic and so very impressionable. And in the cult they go. And off to terrorize society they go.
What do you think about how the woke are calling for the genocide of the Jews? Can't make that up lol.
@@SilentStormParadoxyour slow people who have empathy wouldn’t join the cult NEXT 😂
Compassion is a learned skill? You probably dont have kids 😂😂
@@TSHUKHAN mfs be saying anything
@@TSHUKHAN what does having kids have to do with learning compassion?
6:00 "It's not really your fault if you have these traits. That's not to say that you don't deserve consequences." I.. sense a deep contradiction in this two sentences. Some day .. this will have to be addressed
Allism is a much bigger problem than psychopathy, but the judging is rigged.
Surely psychopaths can gain self control, no?
@@FridaHoeningS It seems more likely than Allists getting control.
@@FridaHoeningSpsychopaths have more (relatively) self control, because they are not controled by empathy or a conscience, by guilt, shame, or love, just by their own whims and desires. What they need is less control. They need to be put in prison until they can be given a conscience.
It's been attempted multiple times, and each time they fake a conscience, usually get released, then prove to still be soulless monsters.
That contradiction is the smallest problem I have with this video. It's kind of an absurdity, how we use "free will" to describe choices that are not at all free, but completely controled by physics, but we use many of these flawed words for lack of better words, describing situations so complex that accurately defining them would be unreasonably long. This leads to contradictions such as this particular one.
Those without a conscience are not at fault for their lack of conscience, and didn't choose to not have one, but they did choose to do evil, because they have no conscience, anr if we just let them run amok, then we'll have devastating climate change, pedos in the churches and schools, dioxins and plastic covering the planet, BigThink spreading propaganda that helps those without a conscience, and a Trump v Biden presidential race. Wait... I guess they're already running amok.
You can be a psychopath and “altruistic.” If a psychopath believes this is the he best path for their future, or they relate their sense of being good as being altruistic this happens. Often manipulation is greater a tool then aggression.
yes, just doing alruistic things doesn't mean people aren't selfish
Great point!!
Yes there are psychoapths with actual friendships but of course there are degrees in the intensity of whats consifeted negative behaviors too
I believe that to be exact my case altho id love to be proven wrong, my pride guides me, taking lives is too easy, id rather help someone because its more challenging, and the only reason i wish i had a heart is because i want to be complete, i want everything, to experience everything, being psychopathic strips me from certain flavors of life i wish to enjoy, although i might just be delusional, i just really hate lacking anything I really hate lacking anything, id hate for those i love to know about me potentially being psychopathic, because i wouldnt want them to question my genuineness ive tried so hard to become who i am today and i do value them for what they are as i understand i couldnt live without my favorite food and having them does a lot for me, i rly wish i had a heart just to avoid that kinda thing but alas even that proves i kinda dont, my world is all for use and the use i want just so happens to make me a better person i rly wonder what life looks like for regular people
I know someone who seems clearly and genuinely altruistic (not in order to gain anything for himself, e.g helped homeless people, ppl with visa problems), while at the same time having pretty obvious psychopathic traits (fighting selfish and ruthlessly for things he wants, being fearless, not understanding a lot of emotions of others, having no guilt feelings, etc)
Altruists are often the victims of psychopaths because they refuse (or cannot) accept that these people are actually doing these bad things. Altruists will surrender their own success too easily.
To be healthy, we need a balance. We need to have a certain level of our own survival and success priority. But we also need the other side of the scale, a sense of other people's pain.
There is evolutionary basis for some balance between the two.
Sometimes people need to suppress their empathy. How else could that person be a relief worker or surgeon in times of war or natural disaster?
Cooperation and caring for others is how humans have managed to survive as long as they have. It takes an intentional discounting and ignoring of what it takes to survive as a species to deny it. If we stay off social media. we can see that most people in society are caring and cooperative. Not one organization could exist for any time without it.
Yes, Ted Bundy saved a girl from drowning at Green Lake in Seattle, Washington, in 1970. This event is documented in Ann Rule's book "The Stranger Beside Me" and is supported by multiple sources
but why we saved her is the real question, i would argue nobody does it for selfless reasons
@@007kingifrit interesting
@@007kingifrit the book Altruism, by Matthieu Ricard is excellent . It challenges your assertion that altruism is secretly selfish. I agree with you though that in many instances, what appears to be altruism my have at least a subtle self interested motivation but the author differentiates this from TRUE altruism and provides many compelling examples.
@@dandybufo9664yeah and Ted Bundy was a truly selfless person, especially when he killed all those countless women and children
The answer is YES. we have them on charge of our Governments. Especially the ones behind the scenes.
Trump is psychopathic. 100%.
And people WORSHIP it!! 😂😂😂
Only a free currency market can keep a government in check. No taxes on private currencies.
@@moneyvsfinance How did you determine you "only" experience to be correct?
@@JohnnyTwoFingers the money/currency is basically half of the economy, in that it is good for all the good and services (not including the barter economy, which is immaterial in comparison). So the goods and services are the one half, and the currency/money is the other. And this makes sense if you think about how convenient currency makes your life.
Now we know from history that a monopoly always abuses it's power. I hope this is obvious enough, but through a deeper economic analysis we can deduce that it is the nature of a monopoly to abuse it's power. And the currency market is clearly a monopoly in every country, where the government sponsored currency (even if it is issued by a privately owned entity like the Federal Reserve) has nearly 100% of the market share. This is a monopoly on half of the economy. A right to issue currency unchecked by potential competitors. If you tried to print your own currency, any transactions or income earned in it is taxed, and in dollars. So if I go all year trading in vouchers, crypto, metals, and bartering, without owning a dollar, the IRS will show up at my doorstep expecting me to sell my assets for Dollars to pay taxes. This tax rule generates a ton of demand for the Dollar, giving the issuer of it unchecked power.
Now, you could argue that the Federal Reserve and other private central banks are more powerful than the government. And I would agree. But, I would also argue that said central banks are the real government. And the power to print the money/currency with monopoly status, that is, free of competition, is in of itself, unchecked power, by the very definitions of "unchecked" and "power". Therefore the currency market must be made free, fair, and open to competition, if you want to keep the government in check
So…how do we define “messes up sometimes” on the altruistic side? Like if someone abuses women and children in their personal life and has used their massive platform to dehumanize women, like clearly doesn’t value their humanity, but also uses their massive platform to sometimes help people (but also sometimes misinforms and makes millions off of their followers’ nescience). Are they a psychopath? Can psychopaths mask their psychopathy by appearing altruistic (are people who pander to known people abusers also psychopaths by proximity?)
Yes, psychopaths can mask. Remember, they are unable to feel empathy, so it's not a choice for them. You would have to see inside their brains to know for sure. Are they really feeling empathy and helping people, or are they simply helping because it really benefits them in some way. Without reading minds it can be hard to know.
@@shakeyj4523the best way to tell for sure is to see how many narcissistic tactics they use, and how often. They could just be a moron who's misogynistic because the world is, gaslighting by accident, because they don't know the truth with which to not gaslight, or they could habitually lie, virtue signal, marginalize easy targets for narcissistic supply, bully, push people's buttons, manipulate, tantrum, et cetera ad nauseum.
To answe your question jordan peterson has narcisisstic personality disorder not psychopathy. :)
What are we talking about here...? You sound like you're talking less about psychopathy and more about hatred figures on your political opposite? Growing up misogynistic or brutish does not make them a psychopath.
@@fen4554 growing up misogynist and brutish is one thing, being a full grown adult who knows better but does it anyway makes you a jerkhole.
Helping only those who are close to me never seemed logical to me. The people who are close to me are most likely to be around the same socio economic status as me - yes I can help with things like childcare and spending time doing chores together, but truly helping people - and also recieving help - is most likely going to come from and be given to people who are NOT close to me. In my mind, if I see someone with a need I can meet, I will do my best to meet it - no matter who they are. It is logical to me that society will only get better if we all do this, if this is how society operates. Otherwise there will be people who get left behind, whole groups of people that fall on hard times. A person within a group that the other people do not have the capacity to help to the extent that they need, often leading to them no longer being part of that group anymore. It's not a sustainable way of thinking and acting as a society.
"Mother Teresa complex" in full display.
@@gravity00x that is an unfortunately cynical view of altruism
@@dandybufo9664 im not talking about altruism, I am talking about the arrogant and ignorant gracelewis, who suffers from the mother teresa complex.
I agree so much!
I like to think it this way (full disclosure: I'm Catholic):
At the end of my life, I will not be asked which of my family member or my friend I helped.
It will be which stranger I helped.
p.s. I don't say I'm right. But yeah. A. It feels good to help others. And B. one never knows what the future holds for them.
Didn’t really delve into the details regarding the neurobiology of psychopathy. There are specific brain regions responsible for social cognition that psychopaths manifest deficits in, mostly in the prefrontal cortex as well as the anterior cingulate and insular cortex. The ability to experience empathy and compassion for others are cognitive processes that can be disrupted if these regions are damaged.
Psychopaths, autistics, schizophrenics, rapists and those with OCD have a lot in common. They all have a right hemisphere deficit as you obviously know. I find it remarkable how much serial killers share with all of the above. The compulsion to kill is OCD, the taking of “trophies” from victims are more like an autistic obsession with collecting and cataloguing their deeds than a hunter mounting a head on a wall. Opening bodies to see the mechanic nature of the body is classic behaviour for a far gone schizophrenic.
People matter. That's why I resent them.
Caring for others makes us feel good, so we do it ourselves.
Not true in general. Imagine caring about someone you don't want to care about.
I cant begin to explain how much I love learning about neuroscience and personality psychology! I have the privilege of being taught by one of the researchers who developed the HEXACO model (M.C Ashton, PhD) at my university!
It is impossible for an individual to act with intention without involvement. Acting with intention guarantees self-interest even if that interest is self-destructive. A martyr is acting selfishly. Selfishness usually describes an act that is hurtful others. Enlightened selfishness does not hurt others and may benefit them. All people "believe" they are acting in their own interest when they act with intention. No person can act in the absence of a self.
Selfishness comes in two flavors: self-centered and other-centered. The former in its extreme is socially destructive. The latter in its extreme is altruistic, even if it can be personally destructive. We call the former jerks or monsters; we call the latter heroes. Psychopaths cannot improve; the rest of us can.
load of horsedung.
Ehy does acting with intention *guarantee* self-interest?
Psychopathy is not a condition that can be diagnosed, only assessed. I don't think I'm a bad person, just someone who has no reason for being other than whatever echoes I seem to repeat back at people who talk to me. I want without knowing why, I simply want to be the best, the richest, maybe just trying to make my reflection mean something more than the skin that I don't really see as mine. The difference between me and the ones behind bars I suppose is insight, my interest in philosophy keeps me questioning my actions and thus not being too easily swayed by impulses.
I do wonder if I could be a good father sometimes. My girlfriend wishes for a child someday, but she seems to forget there is nothing nurturing about me. She hears crying, I hear noise and an attempt to interfere with my personal time.
I'm open to any questions from others, I don't get to talk about this often so I have a mild interest for the moment, if there is no response, assume I stopped caring.
Do you feel a void like something should be here? When you see a expression on a person face do you go ' that expression for funny i sould laugh too'? Or it something else.
I have a question. I hear you saying that you don't feel like there's much "you" inside. How does this make you respond to other people in relationships? Do you feel threatened by other people who seem confident in themselves? If not, what are other situations that might make you feel threatened and want to end that relationship?
Just trying to understand the actions of someone else in my life, the things you say remind me a bit of some of the things they've said.
Yes, they should be held accountable for their actions, just like everyone else. Not to do so is bullshit. Not to do so tells them they can do it again because they won't get into trouble.
It's crazy how cultural narcissism is normal because it's widely accepted and psychopathy is a disorder because it has to do with few people. Fascist supremacist attitude it's only majority vs minority
Thank you so much for throwing light on this topic 👏🏼
Thank you for this sharing. It was healing and helpful to revisit as I attempt to recover from being a long term target of narcissistic abuse. Bless you and the important contributions you are making.💙🌻💙🌻💙🌻💙🌻💙🌻💙🌻💙
I know a person who is elderly, he is one of the most soft spoken, diplomatic and superb person when sober. When when he gets drunk, boy o boy he erupts with negativity. Not that I am being judgemental, but I am really curious why?! Does it mean the person has suppressed lot of negetive emotions when sober and somehow the filter is removed when he is drunk?!
Yes. In vino veritas. He then doesn't consider consequences and the real man comes out.
@@patnor7354 But which is the real personality, when sober? Or when drunk?
The problem you and Pat Noor 7354 have in my opinion is that you seem to think there is one unchanging, real personality, and not recognizing that each and everyone of us can be a different person entirely in different circumstances, under different conditions, especially with drugs involved. A simple example is that militaries are in the business of training and conditioning, ordinary people into becoming obedient murderers. Some never get called to act on that training; and people have very different reactions and responses to it, but for many, many years militaries have found techniques that work to their satisfaction for many, many people. Is it therefore always the real nature of the soldier that he is a murderer?
It depends on the context, it depends on the person.
@@feediglinuance, context, insight!? How dare you? This is the internet! We don’t do that here. 😂
@@Kormac80 I just can't seem to learn that key lesson of the modern webs; thanks for the reminder!
(looks at notes; let's see...) Doesn't matter what they say; just attack what you don't like, and that'll show them you're not to be trifled with, whether or not it has anything to do with them or what they said. And then, protocol dictates that everybody reading should take sides immediately and just react to both of you. That's about right, isn't it?
My parents were BOTH psychopaths,....they were introduced and PAID to get married by my father's wealthy mafia-connected mother in the 60s. Both my brother and I ended with severe borderline. And in 2011 my mother finally killed my brother! That was the day I gto ptsd, discovered youtube, quit my coding career, left my entire family and was never normal again. My only saving grace was the school saw scratches on me from my mother..and noticed my father was too close to my brother physically..child protective services stepped in and my grandmother upped the $$$ for my mother to straighten up until we were 18.
You had to endure so much. I hope youre doing better these days and found peace and contentment!
I don't have words to encourage you or give you hope in some easy way, but I feel that if you get through all of that is because maybe you will inspire people that are suffering same as you. From the bottom of my heart, I send you light and I admire your strength for going through all of this. God is with you.
Wow im so sorry I hope you are doing better now 🙏🙏
two psychopaths wouldn't date or marry one another
@@tone3560did you see where it said that they were paid to marry each other?
Great content!
The message that I took from this video is 'they didn't choose to be this way.' Here, she talks about psychopathy, but it also applies to addicts. In my opinion, communities need more education on these topics to prepare for living in a diverse world.
Thanks you!
No one chooses to be the way they are. Not one person.
Drug addicts definitely chose to be that way.
@@al-imranadore1182 not at all true
@@TheAmishUpload They didn't chose to take the first doze??
@@al-imranadore1182 Wow, you really are ignorant, and you like to advertise it. Wrong again sparky.
Pet ownership, where the pet is truly loved, cared for, and appreciated, is an indication of a compassionate and conscientious nature in a human being. These folks are more likely to care about other things, including people, as well.
“They didn’t choose to be this way”
Exactly.
Aultristic people might be cultural narcissists then
6:02 Excellent point. Recognizing that people simply have innate characteristics that shape their behaviors invites a unique, better perspective on how to respond to their behaviors.
Currently reading some personality inventory of some assessment, it seems to me that this people they seems to lean towards Neuroticism (like melancholic for sample ) , over their counterparts who are high on agreeableness
A lot of those personality assessments are garbage.
Cluster B disorders are very misunderstood. The criterion particularly. Very layered, meticulous, and circumstantial.
Additionally, you are talking about a scale of behavior (we are all on) which involves contextual consistency or inconsistency.
If you were raised by, born into an anti-social parental system, you can understand better than most people (even the professionals). But most people who don’t get, and are merely “enlightened” by youtube videos and generic criterion.. will think narcissists, sociopaths, and psychopaths ‘are everywhere’. Completely misunderstanding what disordered behavior is vs isn’t. Behavior you would think is psychopathic - typically isn’t, and behavior you would think is normal and not psychopathic .. often times, is. You just don’t know how good people are at feigning and manipulating. Whereas genuine behavior is often frowned upon, and thought of as disordered - its not.
Its all backwards.
Cluster Bs will have you thinking they are the victim, they will even strengthen this stance - by going to psych professionals/therapists (professionals who DON’T get it, who will be fooled) only to validate a Cluster B’s, BS narrative.
The professionals are enabling and are complicit with the actions of Cluster Bs. Therapists are often Cluster Bs, or wouldn’t be able to determine the ins and outs of there own criterion for Cluster Bs to save their own life.
I have come across countless people (who are TERRIBLE cluster Bs) who only had their actions and false narratives validated by their therapists. Completely fooled them - and now they are more inclined to manipulate and deceive in society.
Its a disgrace.
If you are raised by a “Tetrad”, and/or multiple Cluster Bs... you will get it better than nearly all professionals. It will inescapably ruin your life. You will see every fractional level of manipulation and deceit in every explicit and implicit human action - daily. It never ends.
O yes.
A lot of mumbo jumbo to play down the devastating effects of psychopaths on humanity.
You HAVE a personality disorder yourself I''m afraid to say. Its evident to me as a borderline you've got a paranoid narcissitic stance in which therapists are evil, cluster-b's are evil, and the anger/rage in you is clearly palpatable. Best case you just have youtubitis lol.
A psychopath did not choose or want to be psychopath; but they do, absolutely, choose every bad and wrong thing they do.
We can only experience externally whatever our own internal reality is. Therefore people who make such claims about humans being naturally selfish are really only revealing their own selfish nature. If you feel kind and loving inside, you will find kindness and love all around you. And if you are bitter and miserable inside, you will find bitter misery all around you. (And an intelligent person will identify the causality at play, and adjust their demeanour accordingly!)
She studied psychopathy for years and come back to us with exceptional insight
"Trait 1 of psychopaths: they're mean"
They can come as loving and charming of course it’s all fake their true colors is they will shot you on your sleep it you become a burden to them.
I have empathy, but I’m aware that I have low sympathy. My wife is very altruistic. I feel strongly that we’re on two sides of the spectrum. I envy her and hope she offsets my own behaviors I’ve observed in our kids.
empathy and altruism can be cultivated if you are interested. There are a series of practices from Buddhism called Metta and the Four Immeasurables that start with the seeds of empathy you already have and through intention, attention and visualization increase the likelihood that you will experience these prosocial emotions.
A lot of people commenting here have a ton of biases to unpack. If you are throwing a ton of labels on someone you’ve never met, you are the issue.
If someone who has studied something much more than you has opinions you disagree with, it should be a source of thinking critically not being triggered and refuting. Maybe there is something to learn. Maybe you don’t like the mirror. Maybe the understandings of the world and people you’ve developed to cope with the stresses of life are being challenged. It’s healthy to think about.
I would say that one of my biggest barriers towards being altruistic is fear: fear that the altruistic action would really screw me over (like I give money, but then suddenly, I receive a bill that I can't pay it because I gave away my money), and a general fear of other people (for example, the beggar is putting on an act, and they'll rob me once I open my wallet). So I'd be curious to know if super altruistic people, like psychopaths, don't experience a lot of fear.
What a beautiful explanation of human behavior. Altruism is also the best remedy for grief.
I immediately looked up the psychopathy test to make sure I'm not a psychopath. 😅
if you're worried about being a psychopath, then you aren't a psychopath.
@@BigTimeRushFan2112 haha. very true
@@BigTimeRushFan2112idk if that 100% true
95% percentile bayBEEE! 🎉
You should consult to therapy to ask if you are, instead of diagnosing on yourself
I'd like to recommend the book by Robert D. Hare "Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us". For me, it's pretty interesting literature on this topic
I really enjoyed this book, it help me put very puzzling behavior into context
Still don't get how this proves that we aren't selfish at our core. We help because it feels good doing it.
That's the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic rewards. There are still needs be a "reward", otherwise *any* sort of motivation is impossible.
@@Balorng exactly, doesn't this proves we are selfish at our core? look at mall child, they're all selfish.
@@balahuraadrian9342 by this logic, only truly selfless being are robots, because they follow a set programm instead of goals set by motivation - be that real robots or people brainwashed into doing things that are not aligned with their interests. It is technically not wrong.
Well, I ruined my life beeing selfless!!!
It didn’t bring me any positive to lend money to my brother who made me homeless later, and not beeing able to get a job because I couldn’t study. And I took care of the neighbors children for 2 years after they passed away, paying for everything.
I did it becuase I thought it was my duty, even though I felt sick to my stomach then and still do, 20 years later! Only regrets!
I would argue that true altruism is doing good deeds for others despite getting no personal pleasure out of it.
There certainly are external signs. It isn’t that infrequent that someone psychopathic will forget they should be feeling the appropriate emotion, or they perform it in a perfunctory way then just drop it, or they TELL you they feel/felt an emotion. Or they will fake the wrong emotion.
But most people, when they notice the mask drop, they immediately dismiss what they noticed. They literally cannot believe their own eyes and ears.
This was what happened with about a dozen or fifteen people, in our admin office one day. I came in to look at the shift chart that had just gone up, and at the back of the room, a buddy who worked in there had given me the “keep it zipped / stay cool” eyebrow flash. A silent “beware” that saved my bacon a couple of times.
The branch manager is showing off pics of her new little pup, choosing which to put on her pet-wall. She loved animals and had a special connection with them, she always told everyone.
Someone said, “Oh - I thought you’d got one of those (toy breed) *last* year.”
“Yeah, I had to get him put down on Friday, he’d started nipping.” Pulled out another photo and looked at it. Did not see the questioner’s jaw drop. Or the double-take someone else did, and…dismissed. But something about the pause alerted her that that would be a sad event, so she then added, “I was up all night crying, you should’ve seen me. Aww, and we got him a wee tartan bow tie to match, look at that!”
Down in the canteen, different people kept coming up to us (Because I happened to be standing closest? Right behind her chair at that moment.) Some of them had been arguing with each other about it. They all of them approached and prefaced their questions mumbling some statement that they “must’ve heard it wrong”, or “got mixed up”. She had been perfectly audible to everyone.
Most of them had worked daily with this woman for 5-10 years, and this was them just noticing who she was.
Rostral anterior cingulate cortex, not singular 🙂
Scored a 53, so typical of my life, dead middle of the pack! Though 22 yrs sober after 20 yrs drinking is a bit rare to find esp one whose worked in PRO kitchens for 31 yrs!!
Bravo for being sober.
Her fundamental flaw happened at the beginning of the video. Selfishness is not necessarily the complete lack of ability to care for other. You can care for others in a way that is rooted in your selfish interest.
In fact, we cannot, not be selfish. Selfishness is one of the most human deep rooted instinct/emotion.
Its not acring if you care for you own interests, its narcisissm. Great example is my mother taking us to the dentist every six months...it was (a) to get her ass off work for the day (b) make us look taken care of to hide the neglect.
@@stoneneils And you think it is possible to do anything with personal interest /motivation at all? What or how will that depressed zombie state look like?
And if I care for others to care for me, you mean that's not caring at all? Explain that twist for me, please?
@@ramblingthoughtsandideas yes it is. its just not understandable to psychopaths. thats why you are struggling so hard with the concept and fighting every word of it.
@@gravity00x your reply is not clear. Can you be more understandable, please?
@@stoneneils incorrect, narcissism is being overly self-centered. i'm sorry that happened to you, but those are not signs of narcissism.