And in the 2020 one (where you can see) there is no diagnostic plug in the clips nor connector for the fuel solenoid above the inlet tract. Nor any wires. Not seen a non M-tronic that late here in the UK....
I have 362cm. just breaking it in. it has run beautifully, without fail. once it's "hot" and shut shortly. it starts easily without choke. no problem. great saws!
Both of these are the "c" models, neither are mtronic. I have a '13 model and absolutely love that thing! In the process of changing clutch cover and intake assembly to the newer versions
Thanks for the side-by-side. BTW, your older saw is non-CM. I'm puzzled as to the three carb adjustment screws on the new saw, I thought the CM models only have the idle adj one only. - N Idaho -
starting a warm or hot 362cm without the choke will burn out the solenoid ? I kinda don't believe it. However, the old black version of solenoids sucked, and would auto fry anyway. I think your dealer made that up because he didn't feel like honoring the 2 year EPA warranty.. Thanks for the video.
Hello, can you explain to me why there are holes on the cover of the CM, while there is no adjustment. And it's not a made in germany when you look at the label in front? THANKS.
Both of these saws have carb adjustment holes so neither it would appear are m tronic. Which is strange I didn’t realize you could still get a new non m tronic 🤷🏻♂️
I got stuck with the first year of production, I had no idea that regular carb saws were available, Nothing but headaches from the first version of the MS362CM. the solenoids sucked, the piston and cylinder are scored from the lean setting that Stihl provided with their new improved shit.
Hi, Really interesting video, thanks. I have a 362cm (m-tronic) bought in europe and it has no option to adjust the H, L or T screws as both your saws do. Are you sure that either of them have a computer (m tronic) carb because the computer ones do not have the option to override the computer as yours do. In any case they are a great saw. Happy cutting!
I would not know until they were removed to see if the bolt pattern is the same as to 2020 does not show the mounting bolts. They are under the removable front cover. With no need to do so and chance a leaking gasket I can't say for sure. But you could ask Stihl for cross reference part numbers or ask service.
i have a 2015 362 cm vw that is outside like your 2020, but my heatcover and summer/winter piece are like the 2010 model, airfilter like 2020, interesting
Neither of these saws are mtronic. The older models run harder. I have three that are crossover models that have the older style clutch cover with captured bar nuts and they also have the newer style air cleaner and older style top cover. There are more variations of this saw than you think. Two of mine are west coast versions with wrap handles.
as many people have pointed out in the comments, neither is an m-tronic. resale value is better on the standard-carb. also, those chips get outdated and obsolete. of course a big company like Stihl makes sure to get the stock to keep servicing running, but eventually they will run out. when i was purchasing this chainsaw half a year ago, i made a point to get the standard-carb. to me, the m-tronic is not worth it. the little fuel it saves cannot cannot compare to the problems of these chips. btw, it's those that are making these saws not start properly once they start malfunctioning (which might be sooner then you expect). i have heard horror stories of a guy changing his chip 3 times within 100 working hours, on this exact model. especially if you're not using it professionally and you aim to keep it longer than 5 years, i can only see positives in not getting the m-tronic. if you want to be super cautious, you can bring your saw to your dealer once a year to adjust the carb. or get yourself an RPM-meter and you can do these adjustments yourself. the standard adjustment is noted in the user manual, then you go from there.
10 years of professionally running an Mtronic 362....Only once have I had to change the solenoid - chip.....The key is to be fanatical about keeping the air cleaner clean and the throttle linkage and carb area spotless after each session.
The best thing to have before spending $800 on a Stilh MS 362 chainsaw is a 20 year old Poulan chainsaw that "still" cranks after 20 years. Because the Stilh saw will fail you after 6 months, then after 1 year, 1.5...etc. Stilh having trouble with my MS [POC} 362 after 3 solenoid changes and now have a 2 yr old Stilh setting dead on a table.
I think that if a man buys stihl he automatically loses his nuts from the start….just kidding. I used to dislike Stihl but that’s because I never had one. Got a 362 yesterday….and the hat
Older covers are better, built stronger...The newer covers are cheaper and break easy, they clog with gunk and toss off the chain a LOT more than the older models, just ask a powerline clearing pro who does a lot of brush out
the new air filters are TOTAL CRAP replace it with one from West Coast saws....no matter what you do they WILL NOT SEAL and WILL let dust into the Carb...they're CRAP get rid of them
The sales man at Stihl and the box says so. Cm is just a computer controlled ignition module. My 500i is fully controlled by modules and no adjustments. Thank you for the compliment
I’ve owned both the older adjustable carb 362 and now a 2021 362cm that has no adjustment for the carb… because it’s a CM. I swear, guys like you are a salesman’s wet dream!
Have to investigate whether it's a cm. If it was a CM it would be like your new one it would have no holes to adjust the carburetor and only one starting position for the choke. You're making yourself look very inexperienced and uninformed. I don't think I can learn anything from your video so I'm moving on. Don't say dumb things right off the bat.
Move along then, and oh, are you so naturally nasty, or do you work extra hard at it? Sheesh, try to be a little more civil and compassionate, be KIND to others.
@@georgedavall9449 Kindness is nice, but the presentation has much, very much wrong information, , , ,some of which he got from the dealer, and other is from inexperience, but no matter what it is still incorrect..
Harsh? I don't see that. I see a guitar dude in his guitar mancave passing out bad info on a chainsaw and he deserves to be corrected. He should have deleted the video as it is not useful. Who owns a chainsaw that has zero dirt under the covers? The bottom looks like he carefully sets it on a pillow between cuts. I want a guy who uses his saws and lets tham bounce around in the truck bed between sites and has some scars to prove it actually gets worked.
Neither one is the c-m, notice the carb adjustment holes on the cowling.... I have a MS362c-m and there are no carb adjustment holes....
And in the 2020 one (where you can see) there is no diagnostic plug in the clips nor connector for the fuel solenoid above the inlet tract. Nor any wires. Not seen a non M-tronic that late here in the UK....
I have 362cm. just breaking it in.
it has run beautifully, without fail.
once it's "hot" and shut shortly. it starts easily without choke. no problem.
great saws!
Excellent info. Thanks for sharing.
Both of these are the "c" models, neither are mtronic. I have a '13 model and absolutely love that thing! In the process of changing clutch cover and intake assembly to the newer versions
Great video… very interesting.
The adjustment holes are sometimes present on the cover reguardless of c-m model or not, manufacturing process.. why make two of the same cover
Nice saws and axes too !
Yep, neither saw is Mtronic 😂 I saw the carb adjustment holes right away.
Thanks for the side-by-side. BTW, your older saw is non-CM. I'm puzzled as to the three carb adjustment screws on the new saw, I thought the CM models only have the idle adj one only. - N Idaho -
starting a warm or hot 362cm without the choke will burn out the solenoid ? I kinda don't believe it. However, the old black version of solenoids sucked, and would auto fry anyway. I think your dealer made that up because he didn't feel like honoring the 2 year EPA warranty.. Thanks for the video.
Hello, can you explain to me why there are holes on the cover of the CM, while there is no adjustment.
And it's not a made in germany when you look at the label in front? THANKS.
I will have to look at that 🤔
I wonder what the price difference in air filters. I wonder how much more the mini hot rod version costs.
It's probably a 3rd of the saw, lol.
Both of these saws have carb adjustment holes so neither it would appear are m tronic. Which is strange I didn’t realize you could still get a new non m tronic 🤷🏻♂️
I can only go by what the box and sales guy said. I am not a saw man lol I just run them.
I got stuck with the first year of production, I had no idea that regular carb saws were available, Nothing but headaches from the first version of the MS362CM. the solenoids sucked, the piston and cylinder are scored from the lean setting that Stihl provided with their new improved shit.
That 2010 looks brand new !!
All in the the care of the tool!
Hi,
Really interesting video, thanks. I have a 362cm (m-tronic) bought in europe and it has no option to adjust the H, L or T screws as both your saws do. Are you sure that either of them have a computer (m tronic) carb because the computer ones do not have the option to override the computer as yours do. In any case they are a great saw. Happy cutting!
The m-tronic saws don’t have a choke position.. only a start position and the saw decides everything for you
@@SgtNiceman M-Tronic saws do have a choke. I believe the 500i is the only saw without a choke because it is fuel injected.
My 362CM (2016ish) has no adjustment screws or holes in the cover. Do you have screws behind those holes?
I will check.
Yep
@@ThatGuitarGuysChannel I don't think you have the M-Tronic version - it looks like you have a regular carburettor.
Are the mufflers interchangeable? 2020 muffler on the 2010?
I would not know until they were removed to see if the bolt pattern is the same as to 2020 does not show the mounting bolts. They are under the removable front cover. With no need to do so and chance a leaking gasket I can't say for sure. But you could ask Stihl for cross reference part numbers or ask service.
Yes they will both bolt to the cylinder.
@@danielbenedict9236 sweet man thanks
👍👍👍
i have a 2015 362 cm vw that is outside like your 2020, but my heatcover and summer/winter piece are like the 2010 model, airfilter like 2020, interesting
what dog spikes you running
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Neither of these saws are mtronic. The older models run harder. I have three that are crossover models that have the older style clutch cover with captured bar nuts and they also have the newer style air cleaner and older style top cover. There are more variations of this saw than you think. Two of mine are west coast versions with wrap handles.
Like anything else they make to many variations
And I must have got hosed at the dealer lol
is there an easy way to tell if a saw is M-tronic?
@@stewy_604 M-tronic doesn't have carburetor adjustment holes on the side of the top cover.
I got a dropped one with cylinder missing. was told it is a 2018. what is the best cylinder to find?
what you said is a no no. is how us loggers start a flooded saw.
as many people have pointed out in the comments, neither is an m-tronic.
resale value is better on the standard-carb. also, those chips get outdated and obsolete. of course a big company like Stihl makes sure to get the stock to keep servicing running, but eventually they will run out.
when i was purchasing this chainsaw half a year ago, i made a point to get the standard-carb. to me, the m-tronic is not worth it. the little fuel it saves cannot cannot compare to the problems of these chips. btw, it's those that are making these saws not start properly once they start malfunctioning (which might be sooner then you expect). i have heard horror stories of a guy changing his chip 3 times within 100 working hours, on this exact model.
especially if you're not using it professionally and you aim to keep it longer than 5 years, i can only see positives in not getting the m-tronic.
if you want to be super cautious, you can bring your saw to your dealer once a year to adjust the carb. or get yourself an RPM-meter and you can do these adjustments yourself. the standard adjustment is noted in the user manual, then you go from there.
10 years of professionally running an Mtronic 362....Only once have I had to change the solenoid - chip.....The key is to be fanatical about keeping the air cleaner clean and the throttle linkage and carb area spotless after each session.
Neither of these are CM they have carb adjusters. ??????
just going by what the box and salesman said.
The best thing to have before spending $800 on a Stilh MS 362 chainsaw is a 20 year old Poulan chainsaw that "still" cranks after 20 years. Because the Stilh saw will fail you after 6 months, then after 1 year, 1.5...etc. Stilh having trouble with my MS [POC} 362 after 3 solenoid changes and now have a 2 yr old Stilh setting dead on a table.
Kind of an odd comment to put on a video of a guy showing you his saw from 2010...
Those saws hardly look like they've seen work.
Its all on how you care for something.
I can assure you that both of them are non m-tronic
I think that if a man buys stihl he automatically loses his nuts from the start….just kidding. I used to dislike
Stihl but that’s because I never had one. Got a 362 yesterday….and the hat
They kick ass, and if you maintain them they will go for years.
Older covers are better, built stronger...The newer covers are cheaper and break easy, they clog with gunk and toss off the chain a LOT more than the older models, just ask a powerline clearing pro who does a lot of brush out
the new air filters are TOTAL CRAP replace it with one from West Coast saws....no matter what you do they WILL NOT SEAL and WILL let dust into the Carb...they're CRAP get rid of them
How can that be a C-M model with the carb adjustments?!? Know what you’re talking about before making a video.
The sales man at Stihl and the box says so. Cm is just a computer controlled ignition module. My 500i is fully controlled by modules and no adjustments. Thank you for the compliment
I’ve owned both the older adjustable carb 362 and now a 2021 362cm that has no adjustment for the carb… because it’s a CM.
I swear, guys like you are a salesman’s wet dream!
Wow, how can it be you’re so harsh, and its pretty rich comment coming from a guy with 11 Subscribers, and no content. Be KIND to others.
@@ThatGuitarGuysChannel C stands for comfort, M stands for M Tronic.
Have to investigate whether it's a cm. If it was a CM it would be like your new one it would have no holes to adjust the carburetor and only one starting position for the choke. You're making yourself look very inexperienced and uninformed. I don't think I can learn anything from your video so I'm moving on. Don't say dumb things right off the bat.
Move along then, and oh, are you so naturally nasty, or do you work extra hard at it? Sheesh, try to be a little more civil and compassionate, be KIND to others.
@@georgedavall9449 Kindness is nice, but the presentation has much, very much wrong information, , , ,some of which he got from the dealer, and other is from inexperience, but no matter what it is still incorrect..
Harsh? I don't see that. I see a guitar dude in his guitar mancave passing out bad info on a chainsaw and he deserves to be corrected. He should have deleted the video as it is not useful. Who owns a chainsaw that has zero dirt under the covers? The bottom looks like he carefully sets it on a pillow between cuts. I want a guy who uses his saws and lets tham bounce around in the truck bed between sites and has some scars to prove it actually gets worked.
My intent was not to be nasty. I'm very experienced with chainsaws. Stick to what you know. People are looking for good advice not misinformed advice.