Agreed. Better than bmw and Audis comparatives and Mercedes' screens look cheap compared to the G80's. I want one over a German car and all I've owned are Mercedes.
@@AmericanBusinessman422 i am so bummed about Merc going all screen... did you look at the new S class? Where did all the elegant yet sophisticated buttons and layout go? 🤢 really sad the industry trend
Once again I tip my hat off to the design team. And bonus points for not copy pasta the GV80 interior into the G80. The only thing I don't like about the new G80 is the lack of V8, pour one out for the homie. As to your question, M, I don't need the AWD, but the interior could make the point for it. If I was buying, I'd test drive both cars and spend a good amount of time inside each one before I decide. As always, excellent work, M.
@@MotoManTV its not that particular V8 per se, its the idea of a V8 luxury midsize sedan. The only ones left under the $100k mark are the older than dirt Chrysler 300 (using the L word very very loosely here) & the BMW M550i. The Bimmer gets so expensive once you start ticking options, you might as well cross the threshold & get a full fat M5. There's the upcoming Ghibli Trofeo, but I seriously doubt it'll be under 90k.
@@IceDree I’ve tested the previous G80 3.3T V6 and I honestly didn’t think I’d prefer it over the old V8 but I did. The torque comes a lot sooner and is spreaded out more evenly. It was definitely not as fast as the V8 but this new 3.5T has been reported to do 0-60 in 4.5s, which is a major improvement. However, I do really miss that V8 sound as well..
I'm choosing this or the GV80, I currently have a 2015 Hyundai Genesis sedan and Love it. Exterior design is beautiful. Interior design is beautiful, and what you get for the money, including warranty, including concierge services for 3 years. All that alone should convince you to lean towards this brand. Of course people are Brand Snobs. And there goes my NUMBER #1 REASON, to buy this vehicle, because I'm not that way. I want different, I want who offers me the most for my money. If I had millions, I'm still buying this over Mercedes or BMW.
I have a 2019 Kia Stinger which I love, its a sweet car. But being 6'4 i need a little bit more room and this car does it for me. At some point in the next year I'm trading up to the G80...
That G80 is what I believe the Japanese competitors’ mid-level models should’ve eventually evolved into by now. The power, detailed aesthetics, & value in Genesis products lets me know they’re serious about what they’re bringing to market to grab their share and shake things up; I absolutely love it.
The knobs and scroll wheels would not be able to used if they stuck to a traditional shifter, but I do agree that a traditional shifter is much more premium.
I disagree. The steering wheel is just fine. I rented one to travel from Nashville to New Orleans. It is an incredible machine. The power is smooth and it probably has close to 400hp than just 375. And if you aren't careful, you will lose your license. However, the trunk is too small and the start stop engine mechanism feels as if I am getting hit in the rear, when it engages. I will buy one.
@@ruslanmishiyev9815 Each generation gets better though. Not sure if you're american or not - but compared to the European market offerings... Well neither BMW, Jaguar or Alfa Romeo are reliable cars. BMW might be screwn together good. But Alfa Romeo - my god that is a piece of 90's plastic with a ticking timebomb under the hood. Jaguars are on the same level as BMW perhaps... They all depreciate and they all suck in some way after a few years. Gensis downfall is that they lack the fanboy crews that ignore the problems :P
I wonder if the reduced weight in the RWD would offset the higher total grip from the AWD top-of-the-line version for a quicker 0 - 60? Also it would be nice to see a black-out package for the G80.
I want this for my 80th birthday. That is in 2023 and this car will be selling for about half original price with very low mileage. Here in the Palm Beaches these cars are everywhere. The wealthy are rich - not stupid! They understand that they can save about twenty=grand and drive in style without that three pronged star out there on the hood advertising they got scammed into paying too much!
Agree 100% with the sweet spot being the base v6, I like the backseat room in the G80 (from what I’ve seen in videos). I’m a Volvo guy and at the top of my list is the S80 T8 R-design and this seems to be in the ballpark, even if it falls a little short but may make up for it in driving dynamics and value. I have a few more years before I’m back on the market, we’ll see. Thanks Motoman 🍻
I've had a Genesis for about three years. Nice car. This car is quite attractive and is undoubtedly an evolutionary improvement over older models, but the gear shift "dial" and the backwards tach bug me.
Having owned a 2012 Genesis (Hyundai) 4.6L V8, I'm sad to see the V8 go away.... However, this redesign is definitely stunning. On the price point..... I've owned a few Hyundais and I still don't feel confident enough in my fellow motorists to not be badge snobs. Which in fact, is the way that the Genesis wings came about to begin with. At a top end of $70k, Genesis will have to offer some attractive lease offers to usher new customers in. That, and get their crap together on their stand-alone dealership situation. If they do that and come up with a CPO program similar to MBUSA's, they'll gain confidence for CPO buyers, like myself.
As a multiple Mercedes owner, I am switching to Genesis as it is simply better interior wise. Badge snobs mean nothing. Also, please do some research on the negatives of leasing.
Did Genesis explain the differences between the 3.5L TT vs the 3.3L TT engines? In the tech review, you mentioned going into more detail during the drive. The output and fuel economies seem pretty similar.
I would agree that the RWD V6 is the sweet spot for this vehicle, and I honestly can’t justify spending $10K more for AWD. However, that steering wheel, I just don’t know if I can get past that or not. Otherwise, nice job Hyundai.
What would happen if they added a mild hybrid option to add instant torque below 2,000 RPM? That would be nice. Have you the new G70? Really sharp for 2021.
The single most interesting feature on the new G80 and GV80 is the AR Navigation. Seen them on the Korean model. But NONE of the US journalists show any of it. Is there an agreement with Genesis or something? How could everyone miss this key feature?
@@antinomie2009 I was told by several reviewers that they are available on the US model. However, NONE of them bother to show any piece of it. And some even have very bad attitude when I asked. If I want to know all the features I'll watch Asian petrolhead. Honestly none of the US reviewer know better that fhe korean journalist. Only reason I watch these is to find out what exactly is missing for the US.
I'd definitely go with a loaded one at $69K, the bells and whistles are just too compelling, though I'd skip the AWD on the grounds that I, too, live in the Sun Belt. Definitely agreed on the steering wheel, though. A new shape is definitely needed, and I personally wish one had a choice for the top (and maybe the bottom, but definitely the top) of the steering wheel to have wood trim, at least on the more loaded models, as well.
Love the review, I believe that the steering wheel is a bit on the luxury design and less sporty so that Genesis can save some design for the sport model. I definitely love the Genesis brand value proposition, I think the world is ready but also genesis gas to continue to offer a competitive product and not fall off like acura. Genesis has to offer a compelling sport model when it arrives and I think it maybe nice to see some hybrid tech to add both mpg and a little extra " sport".
I'll go with the Genesis. It certain has a better presence than it's competitors. It has a lot of room for improvement, and arguably it won't leave you on the side of the road in 5 years; but if it does you have a 10 year powertrain warranty that will gives you a peace of mind. The S Class is undoubtedly, the most advanced luxury car money can buy, but it will depreciate even faster given it's complexities, so that leaves Genesis, Kia k900 to dominate the used luxury car market.
It is a sharp looking sedan . Totally agree these cars need a shift selector. My self personally. I just can’t get over the Hyundai ( generic) name ugh. Sorry
I’ll take a 1970 Buick Electra 225 with the 455, because old. I bought the Lexus ES hybrid a couple of years ago, and would consider this, but it gets nearly half the mileage, so I’m out.
MotoMan, you have to tone it down a bit as well as some of your other car review counterparts. You guys are so technical with your knowledge base that you lose people in the process. The average person buying this car don't understand 70% of the information you're sharing. You're way over most of our heads. Like when all of you say this vehicle has 400 pound feet of torgue. What the hell does that mean to an everyday driver? Y'all never break that down so average folk can understand. Are you reviewing the car for the population that will eventually buy it or for the other technical car gurus like yourself.? Other than that you're great...I do appreciate your opinion on the less expensive standard 2 wheel drive which to me makes more sense..
The previous generation 3.3T (or V8) was $57k msrp. And now it jumps to $69k? Why? It does not make sense. BTW, no one got their G80 paying MSRP. Not even close. But a 12k jump is too much. I don't get it.
I would bet at the right time of year you, could get the fully loaded AWD For close to 60k. People are still buying SUVs, so they won't be flying off the lot.
Let's not forget the warranty that comes with Genesis by 100 thousand miles most German cars really need some TLC and lots of money spent on maintenance.
HUGE point . . . one that I am still having a think on: Does it make a difference for folks in this realm of car? Here's my struggle: The guy buying the Elantra, that car is a more of a financial stretch for them and accordingly they plan to keep it longer . . . thus the warranty is a sizable factor. The folks buying - or sadly, leasing, these types of cars only plan to keep them 3 - 5 years and I don't believe spend a lot of time thinking on warranties and reliability. Going to open this one to you guys as I am still seeking evidence one way or the other.
@@MotoManTV I've been driving Mercedes and Porsche for the past 20 years and it's because out of the German brands they are the most reliable. I do keep my cars about 6 to 8 years. Japanese luxury brands and I talking about Lexus too will sell less cars than Genesis if Genesis keeps making high-quality products like they are doing and they maintain their warranty. As people get older we start thinking about our retirement and we don't want to spend unnecessary money on a cars maintenance if we don't have to. And that's why Lexus if thriving but Genesis has a better warranty and iin my opinion a better lineup of cars. Thanks for responding many channels do not it's good to talk to people that know what they are talking about.
The G80 V6 Prestige is not too far (price-wise) from the GV80 V6 Advanced. After testing both, which one you would go with considering they are so similar. The sedan or the SUV?
Yes! If Chrysler can't get its butt up and give us something new.. like Lincoln and even Cadillac has done . Why not ask the Koreans? Is its own car with a european/american flair.... As long as they keep it good quality people are going to buy it.....
let's be serious here for a minute. how many, in total, do you think will sell in America? ok, so it is nice...but nobody is buying these cars. nobody, except the rich, and do you really think they will make the switch enough times to make this expense a success, financially? motoman can like it all he wants...he will never buy one.
Paul, you make a very fair point. Here's some general market data for you that somewhat supports your point - but for ALL OEMs that play in the space. Crossovers like a RAV4 or a CRV each sell about 250,000 units in the US alone a year. Their sedan counterparts used to do those numbers but now they are a bit less, but still 200,000+ units. That said, the minute you go over US$40,000, volumes half. At that, the ONLY car (not CUV or SUV) that sells 100,000 units annually is the BMW 3 Series - and that figure is *worldwide*. So yes, numbers on anything in the US$50,000 - 70,000 range will be orders of magnitude less but not inconsequential. It's when you arrive at US$70,000 that the volume starts to plummet. Take this brand's top car, the G90: If they sell 2,000 units annually in the US, that would be a win - which is what their business case is based on. So at the end of the day, the question you should be asking yourself is not how many they sell, rather, what is their business case and how do they arrive at profitability . . .
@@MotoManTV " which is what their business case is based on." man, I would have been fired and drummed out of business if my sales reports had this as a "business plan". i don't know where these folks come up with this, but in my business world, you get whipped talking like that. you'd be beaten out of the boardroom. my chair would have fallen through the trap floor my boss would have opened, into the shark tank under the floor. i personally love my cars and wish people would stop trying to get the swiss-army knife vehicle. it ain't gonna happen. there is never gonna be one that does everything. look...SUVs cargo. it should be against the law to count cargo above the rear seat. if you don't supply a flip-up protective barrier, then it is a horrible plan and any sudden stop or accident will behead the rear passengers. my 2010 MKS with 3.5 ecoboost has a 19 cu ft trunk. I bet it will hold more than most suvs ...safely.
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BEST interior in the industry hands down south of Bentley/RR.
Honestly, this is the best interior I have seen.
Agreed. Better than bmw and Audis comparatives and Mercedes' screens look cheap compared to the G80's. I want one over a German car and all I've owned are Mercedes.
@@AmericanBusinessman422 i am so bummed about Merc going all screen... did you look at the new S class? Where did all the elegant yet sophisticated buttons and layout go? 🤢 really sad the industry trend
Once again I tip my hat off to the design team. And bonus points for not copy pasta the GV80 interior into the G80.
The only thing I don't like about the new G80 is the lack of V8, pour one out for the homie.
As to your question, M, I don't need the AWD, but the interior could make the point for it. If I was buying, I'd test drive both cars and spend a good amount of time inside each one before I decide.
As always, excellent work, M.
I think I am the only one on the planet not in love with that old than the hills, Hyundai 'Tau' V8.
@@MotoManTV its not that particular V8 per se, its the idea of a V8 luxury midsize sedan. The only ones left under the $100k mark are the older than dirt Chrysler 300 (using the L word very very loosely here) & the BMW M550i. The Bimmer gets so expensive once you start ticking options, you might as well cross the threshold & get a full fat M5.
There's the upcoming Ghibli Trofeo, but I seriously doubt it'll be under 90k.
@@IceDree I’ve tested the previous G80 3.3T V6 and I honestly didn’t think I’d prefer it over the old V8 but I did. The torque comes a lot sooner and is spreaded out more evenly. It was definitely not as fast as the V8 but this new 3.5T has been reported to do 0-60 in 4.5s, which is a major improvement.
However, I do really miss that V8 sound as well..
I'm choosing this or the GV80, I currently have a 2015 Hyundai Genesis sedan and Love it. Exterior design is beautiful. Interior design is beautiful, and what you get for the money, including warranty, including concierge services for 3 years. All that alone should convince you to lean towards this brand. Of course people are Brand Snobs. And there goes my NUMBER #1 REASON, to buy this vehicle, because I'm not that way. I want different, I want who offers me the most for my money. If I had millions, I'm still buying this over Mercedes or BMW.
I have a 2019 Kia Stinger which I love, its a sweet car. But being 6'4 i need a little bit more room and this car does it for me. At some point in the next year I'm trading up to the G80...
Genesis is taking a page out of Lexus' playbook (circa 1989). Looking forward to the 2022 G70/GV70 launches next year.
I like how the car has a Bentley feel to it. Love it love it love it.
That's because the head of design use to be at Bentley before Genesis hired him.
@@nanaokyere7141 Damn, I just looked that up. No wonder I thought that way.
Watch out! The Koreans mean serious business. I love their new lineup. What a beautiful car. Quality seems right up there with anything German.
Yes like LG and Samsung have taken over their competitors, Hyundai and Kia will be taking over some of their competitors soon in every aspect.
That G80 is what I believe the Japanese competitors’ mid-level models should’ve eventually evolved into by now. The power, detailed aesthetics, & value in Genesis products lets me know they’re serious about what they’re bringing to market to grab their share and shake things up; I absolutely love it.
Compared to the BMW, I’d much rather spend time inside this.
And this will be miles, MILES, more reliable than the BMW will ever be.
But bmw looks better
@@yes8032 What BMW looks better? And do you mean the exterior or interior?
@@yes8032 I agree. The 5 series facelift is the only one that tops the G80 in looks in this class imo
@@kylem324 everything
the looks are just enough to make me go for this baby instead of a 5er or E or an A6 AND you can't argue about its value,consider me a buyer
All those 3 are better
@@yes8032 not by my priorities
The knobs and scroll wheels would not be able to used if they stuck to a traditional shifter, but I do agree that a traditional shifter is much more premium.
I disagree. The steering wheel is just fine. I rented one to travel from Nashville to New Orleans. It is an incredible machine. The power is smooth and it probably has close to 400hp than just 375. And if you aren't careful, you will lose your license. However, the trunk is too small and the start stop engine mechanism feels as if I am getting hit in the rear, when it engages. I will buy one.
I’d spend most of the $30 grand I saved having the smug look surgically removed from my face.
Hah nice
@@ruslanmishiyev9815 Yeah korean cars are still kinda bad
@@ruslanmishiyev9815 Each generation gets better though. Not sure if you're american or not - but compared to the European market offerings... Well neither BMW, Jaguar or Alfa Romeo are reliable cars. BMW might be screwn together good. But Alfa Romeo - my god that is a piece of 90's plastic with a ticking timebomb under the hood. Jaguars are on the same level as BMW perhaps... They all depreciate and they all suck in some way after a few years. Gensis downfall is that they lack the fanboy crews that ignore the problems :P
🤣🤣
Great comment!!!!
I went for a G90. Love it, and it has an actual shift knob. And the DRLs look meeeaan!
I love the steering wheel!
ive been in love with the blue interior we saw in the press release photos
These cars are all over Korea, and man do they have presence.
I wonder if the reduced weight in the RWD would offset the higher total grip from the AWD top-of-the-line version for a quicker 0 - 60? Also it would be nice to see a black-out package for the G80.
Murdered out would be amazing.
One consideration for AWD is the fuel tank is larger giving it a longer cruising range. Important for me on road trips.
GREAT QUESTION
I want this for my 80th birthday. That is in 2023 and this car will be selling for about half original price with very low mileage. Here in the Palm Beaches these cars are everywhere. The wealthy are rich - not stupid! They understand that they can save about twenty=grand and drive in style without that three pronged star out there on the hood advertising they got scammed into paying too much!
Used is always better
I love the steering wheel looks great and if I had the money that comes with age I’d be at the dealership buying one depreciated a few years.
NEW DRINKING GAME!
Every time he’s reviewing a Genesis and says “Hyundai” take a shot!
:)
Agree 100% with the sweet spot being the base v6, I like the backseat room in the G80 (from what I’ve seen in videos). I’m a Volvo guy and at the top of my list is the S80 T8 R-design and this seems to be in the ballpark, even if it falls a little short but may make up for it in driving dynamics and value. I have a few more years before I’m back on the market, we’ll see. Thanks Motoman 🍻
Would have like a naturally aspirated V6- not a fan of turbo’s
Depends on WHERE you live. AWD is a must on the Northeast/Midwest!
Here I'm Florida, the cooled seats are a deal breaker. But we don't even know that people have to change tires halfway through the year for snow!
I love the Dune brown/navy interior
I have a 2018 G80 Sport. Amazing Car and i think my next will be GV 80 .
I've had a Genesis for about three years. Nice car. This car is quite attractive and is undoubtedly an evolutionary improvement over older models, but the gear shift "dial" and the backwards tach bug me.
Dude, the sunglass holder in my old 2010 Sonata opened and closed the same way.
This Genesis brand is seriously enhancing it's sleek identity. This car is gorgeous inside out to European side.
My 2016 Sonata had the same kind of sunglasses holder slow and dampened open/close.
My 2013 Azera had the same.
The only thing it needs is either an even more powerful turbo V6, a N/A V8 or a powerful hybrid powertrain. Otherwise the car is just perfect.
I looks like a Jaguar XF that won't blow up after two years! Like it! :P
Having owned a 2012 Genesis (Hyundai) 4.6L V8, I'm sad to see the V8 go away.... However, this redesign is definitely stunning. On the price point..... I've owned a few Hyundais and I still don't feel confident enough in my fellow motorists to not be badge snobs. Which in fact, is the way that the Genesis wings came about to begin with. At a top end of $70k, Genesis will have to offer some attractive lease offers to usher new customers in. That, and get their crap together on their stand-alone dealership situation. If they do that and come up with a CPO program similar to MBUSA's, they'll gain confidence for CPO buyers, like myself.
As a multiple Mercedes owner, I am switching to Genesis as it is simply better interior wise. Badge snobs mean nothing. Also, please do some research on the negatives of leasing.
@@AmericanBusinessman422 I don't lease cars. Not applicable to me.
Did Genesis explain the differences between the 3.5L TT vs the 3.3L TT engines? In the tech review, you mentioned going into more detail during the drive. The output and fuel economies seem pretty similar.
I would agree that the RWD V6 is the sweet spot for this vehicle, and I honestly can’t justify spending $10K more for AWD. However, that steering wheel, I just don’t know if I can get past that or not. Otherwise, nice job Hyundai.
For the avoidance of doubt, AWD is not US$10,000 . . . is the AWD plus the Prestige Package. One can have an AWD V6 for US$62,500.
What would happen if they added a mild hybrid option to add instant torque below 2,000 RPM? That would be nice. Have you the new G70? Really sharp for 2021.
That is one HUGE grille!
The single most interesting feature on the new G80 and GV80 is the AR Navigation. Seen them on the Korean model. But NONE of the US journalists show any of it. Is there an agreement with Genesis or something? How could everyone miss this key feature?
@@antinomie2009 I was told by several reviewers that they are available on the US model. However, NONE of them bother to show any piece of it. And some even have very bad attitude when I asked. If I want to know all the features I'll watch Asian petrolhead. Honestly none of the US reviewer know better that fhe korean journalist. Only reason I watch these is to find out what exactly is missing for the US.
I have a US 2022 prestige Gv80 and it doesn’t have the AR navigation
@@guevarasamson1165 you got the 4 cylinder? It seems only available on the top trim of V6
I'd definitely go with a loaded one at $69K, the bells and whistles are just too compelling, though I'd skip the AWD on the grounds that I, too, live in the Sun Belt.
Definitely agreed on the steering wheel, though. A new shape is definitely needed, and I personally wish one had a choice for the top (and maybe the bottom, but definitely the top) of the steering wheel to have wood trim, at least on the more loaded models, as well.
VERY good suggestion on the wood trim . . . especially considering the wonderful Satin finish they have elsewhere in the car.
Love the review, I believe that the steering wheel is a bit on the luxury design and less sporty so that Genesis can save some design for the sport model. I definitely love the Genesis brand value proposition, I think the world is ready but also genesis gas to continue to offer a competitive product and not fall off like acura. Genesis has to offer a compelling sport model when it arrives and I think it maybe nice to see some hybrid tech to add both mpg and a little extra " sport".
Like what Genesis is doing as they are clearly sticking to the plot . . . unlike Acura!
I'll go with the Genesis. It certain has a better presence than it's competitors. It has a lot of room for improvement, and arguably it won't leave you on the side of the road in 5 years; but if it does you have a 10 year powertrain warranty that will gives you a peace of mind. The S Class is undoubtedly, the most advanced luxury car money can buy, but it will depreciate even faster given it's complexities, so that leaves Genesis, Kia k900 to dominate the used luxury car market.
This car has a good level of luxury and engine towards other competitor limousines.
Excellent review! My choice is to go all the way !
Is this Hallisan Green?
Go for the gusto. Top of the line all the way.
It is a sharp looking sedan . Totally agree these cars need a shift selector. My self personally. I just can’t get over the Hyundai ( generic) name ugh. Sorry
When you hear "anything you want" you know it's going to be an only option
Pretty much.
We only have 2 options kn canada in thr g80
Demar gio you are right this g80 especially with the luxury package is impressive betters the Germans and cheaper
I like the wheel. Sue me
When did top speed become "v-max"?
When I became a pilot.
I’ll take a 1970 Buick Electra 225 with the 455, because old. I bought the Lexus ES hybrid a couple of years ago, and would consider this, but it gets nearly half the mileage, so I’m out.
So will I . . . but make mine a convertible!
MotoMan, you have to tone it down a bit as well as some of your other car review counterparts. You guys are so technical with your knowledge base that you lose people in the process. The average person buying this car don't understand 70% of the information you're sharing. You're way over most of our heads. Like when all of you say this vehicle has 400 pound feet of torgue. What the hell does that mean to an everyday driver? Y'all never break that down so average folk can understand. Are you reviewing the car for the population that will eventually buy it or for the other technical car gurus like yourself.? Other than that you're great...I do appreciate your opinion on the less expensive standard 2 wheel drive which to me makes more sense..
Appreciate the frank feedback! Happy 2022!
@@MotoManTV You as well thanks...
The previous generation 3.3T (or V8) was $57k msrp. And now it jumps to $69k? Why? It does not make sense.
BTW, no one got their G80 paying MSRP. Not even close. But a 12k jump is too much. I don't get it.
My Loaded 2018 with V8/AWD sticker was $62,000.
This genesis g80 is a formidable rival to mercedes suv.
I would bet at the right time of year you, could get the fully loaded AWD For close to 60k. People are still buying SUVs, so they won't be flying off the lot.
I’d be at the dealership now for a $60k for the prestige awd package...70k is out of the question. Maybe Dec.27th?
Let's not forget the warranty that comes with Genesis by 100 thousand miles most German cars really need some TLC and lots of money spent on maintenance.
HUGE point . . . one that I am still having a think on: Does it make a difference for folks in this realm of car? Here's my struggle: The guy buying the Elantra, that car is a more of a financial stretch for them and accordingly they plan to keep it longer . . . thus the warranty is a sizable factor. The folks buying - or sadly, leasing, these types of cars only plan to keep them 3 - 5 years and I don't believe spend a lot of time thinking on warranties and reliability. Going to open this one to you guys as I am still seeking evidence one way or the other.
@@MotoManTV I've been driving Mercedes and Porsche for the past 20 years and it's because out of the German brands they are the most reliable. I do keep my cars about 6 to 8 years. Japanese luxury brands and I talking about Lexus too will sell less cars than Genesis if Genesis keeps making high-quality products like they are doing and they maintain their warranty. As people get older we start thinking about our retirement and we don't want to spend unnecessary money on a cars maintenance if we don't have to. And that's why Lexus if thriving but Genesis has a better warranty and iin my opinion a better lineup of cars. Thanks for responding many channels do not it's good to talk to people that know what they are talking about.
Switching from Porsche to Genesis
I'm upgrading from Genesis G80 to Porsche.
Why dont you have both?
The G80 V6 Prestige is not too far (price-wise) from the GV80 V6 Advanced. After testing both, which one you would go with considering they are so similar. The sedan or the SUV?
Being that I was the guy that used to goto Costco in a Lotus Elise, you don't want to know my answer to a practical question.
Yes! If Chrysler can't get its butt up and give us something new.. like Lincoln and even Cadillac has done . Why not ask the Koreans? Is its own car with a european/american flair.... As long as they keep it good quality people are going to buy it.....
Nice review. I can’t come around to like their product. Design cues from this manufacturer and that lacking true signature, or identity.
maybe i missed it...but does it have a trunk and if so, how large is it?
15.3 cu ft
If I'm reading the tea leaves correctly...
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No folding rear seats. So no.
That Steering wheel sucks
let's be serious here for a minute.
how many, in total, do you think will sell in America?
ok, so it is nice...but nobody is buying these cars.
nobody, except the rich, and do you really think they will make the switch enough times to make this expense a success, financially?
motoman can like it all he wants...he will never buy one.
This is the most logical and honest response in any review of this car I’ve seen so far.
Paul, you make a very fair point. Here's some general market data for you that somewhat supports your point - but for ALL OEMs that play in the space. Crossovers like a RAV4 or a CRV each sell about 250,000 units in the US alone a year. Their sedan counterparts used to do those numbers but now they are a bit less, but still 200,000+ units. That said, the minute you go over US$40,000, volumes half. At that, the ONLY car (not CUV or SUV) that sells 100,000 units annually is the BMW 3 Series - and that figure is *worldwide*. So yes, numbers on anything in the US$50,000 - 70,000 range will be orders of magnitude less but not inconsequential. It's when you arrive at US$70,000 that the volume starts to plummet. Take this brand's top car, the G90: If they sell 2,000 units annually in the US, that would be a win - which is what their business case is based on. So at the end of the day, the question you should be asking yourself is not how many they sell, rather, what is their business case and how do they arrive at profitability . . .
@@MotoManTV " which is what their business case is based on."
man, I would have been fired and drummed out of business if my sales reports had this as a "business plan".
i don't know where these folks come up with this, but in my business world, you get whipped talking like that.
you'd be beaten out of the boardroom.
my chair would have fallen through the trap floor my boss would have opened, into the shark tank under the floor.
i personally love my cars and wish people would stop trying to get the swiss-army knife vehicle.
it ain't gonna happen.
there is never gonna be one that does everything.
look...SUVs cargo. it should be against the law to count cargo above the rear seat. if you don't supply a flip-up protective barrier, then it is a horrible plan and any sudden stop or accident will behead the rear passengers.
my 2010 MKS with 3.5 ecoboost has a 19 cu ft trunk. I bet it will hold more than most suvs ...safely.
@@MotoManTV oh...and by the way, i am smitten with the caddy ct5 V.
for 45 grand, I would grab it waaaaaay before this massively expensive car.
The steering wheel is very ugly. Other than that, the interior looks very nice.
For $69K I would get a Tesla Model S....
That cheap thing. It’s just electric!! That cheap made thing is terrible!
I know right. This genesis g80 is way better than a freaking tesla!😂😂