Genesis brand is very popular with the new wealthy Palm Beach people. Many switched from their Benz etc and in their words:”yes, I am wealthy. No, I’m not stupid! This car has everything I want and saved me twenty grand!” And that is one of many similar conversations I had with people in a couple high end Boca communities where I worked. As for me - I own a Genesis and a new Santa Fe Limited loaded with every option. Love them both!
The Genesis G90 is more popular than the German luxury brands (BMW , BENZ , AUDI) in Korea. Korean politicians and businessmen use it a lot. In Korea, rich people and business leaders who have a lot of money sometimes ride the Genesis G90 for business purposes. In Korea, there is a culture of respect when riding a domestic car. Just like the President of the United States uses Cadillac.
I will never buy another Kia. Period. We contacted the Kia Corporate office to help with an issue we had after our car broke down on the side of the interstate 2 times after being serviced at 2 different Kia dealerships, Langdale Kia in Valdosta and Crown Kia in Saint Petersburg. Kia Corporate gave us the run around, telling us they would send our service request upper management to have it approved. After 3 weeks, they finally told us that no our car wasn’t under warranty! What?! It’s like they didn’t even read what we submitted. Kia doesn’t know how to fix their own vehicles and doesn’t care if they break down multiple times. This has been a horrible
@@dark6c159 It does sound like an annoying experience, but your cheap Kia has nothing to do with the luxury cars like the k900, G80 and G90. It also sounds like your car is actually not under warranty, so I'm not sure why you'd expect a manufacturer to fix something they never said they supported, potentially many years after you bought it...Basically any manufacturer would ask you go simply take it to a local garage and fix whatever is wrong unless it's something explicitly covered under their warranty or part of a recall. You're also free to get a German luxury car for more money and with 2-3 years of warranty instead of 5-10 if you think it'll break down less often.
Newer G70 owner here. I bought it for the tech and luxury, not the badge. Coming from an Infiniti, the dealership experience was so bad that it was almost a dealbreaker. I hope they get stand-alone dealerships soon. Love the car, but It’s not the espresso that’s important, it’s the respect level and customer treatment.
@@jasonpark4293 haha, I have to agree on all counts - @Roman isn't wrong, but I agree with @Law that a crap dealership experience is what drove me (pun intended) away from VW initially (the real deal breaker being that there were no 4/5 door non-SUV AWD options, at the time).
Outstanding products with the most unfortunate service experience. Thankfully they're reliable to an extent. They've started with strong sales but Genesis needs to get it right, otherwise their sales momentum will plummet quite dramatically in coming years.
Stunning design. I am seeing Korean cars slowly taking over Japanese makers like they did with electronics 20 yrs ago. Toyota and Honda need to get their acts together. Otherwise, they will become Sony and Panasonic.
@Andres Perez This comment section is deluded at this point. Korea has never built a better performing or more reliable vehicle to ever be exported than Japan has. Japan has been making quality automotives that last multiple decades for 50 years.
The Genesis G90 is more popular than the German luxury brands (BMW , BENZ , AUDI) in Korea. Korean politicians and businessmen use it a lot. In Korea, rich people and business leaders who have a lot of money sometimes ride the Genesis G90 for business purposes. In Korea, there is a culture of respect when riding a domestic car. Just like the President of the United States uses Cadillac.
@@The-Heart-Will-Testify noo i like the look of the Kia Cadenza i believe it is. That looks good. And the last gen Genesis g80. Those were beautiful. None of the new Korean stuff or the other older stuff do it for me. Benz looks like none of them.
@@adilsagadiyev5090 Lol. Genesis has been a thing since 2015. Jaguar is not worried about the Genesis brand with no identity chasing Bentley’s glory in a budget dress. Genesis fans need to get real, you guys are delusional. Jaguar interiors are shitting all over this, and it’s not just the driver seat that will massage you in the Jaguar. Smh 🤦🏽♂️
@@mybro727 first off genesis also has a massaging seat for the drive AND passenger it’s also wayyy cheaper give it 5 or 10 years people will slowly start to understand
I’m sure Genesis is preparing to introduce a more performance oriented trim in the future. Right now it’s just about launching the new model. Be patient guys. They’re also working on separate dealerships as well
I will never buy another Kia. Period. We contacted the Kia Corporate office to help with an issue we had after our car broke down on the side of the interstate 2 times after being serviced at 2 different Kia dealerships, Langdale Kia in Valdosta and Crown Kia in Saint Petersburg. Kia Corporate gave us the run around, telling us they would send our service request upper management to have it approved. After 3 weeks, they finally told us that no our car wasn’t under warranty! What?! It’s like they didn’t even read what we submitted. Kia doesn’t know how to fix their own vehicles and doesn’t care if they break down multiple times. This has been a horrible
They are. In Korea, the Genesis G80 sport has been spied multiple times with wheels similar to that of the gv70. Reportedly it will use a more tuned version of the 3.5TT V6, with 420 horsepower, and 413 lb ft of torque.
This car is beautiful !! I agree wholeheartedly about buying the car you love and want I went in for a corolla hybrid but went in for the Camry se hybrid! Just had more goodies and more luxury! And I looooove my car and not everyone likes the styling 🤷🏻♂️
@@bobogettingstrangled8289 they literally share nothing with hyundai. The engines are Genesis exclusive, so is the platform, software, switchgear, design and everything else. Stop saying this is only a dressed up hyundai as a petty means to discredit a true non German luxury sedan. Its really annoying and close minded. You're better than that.
@@greg.anywhere yep still associated with Hyundai lowest of lowest car brand(poor mans brand). Unfortunately in the prestige market that's a deal breaker having association with just low level car brand will be a big issue when it's going after Mercedes and etc.
@@bobogettingstrangled8289 Stuck in the past. It makes sense that some have been living under a rock to see that the hyundai motor group are not just underdogs, or cheaper alternatives, as of today, they are actually formidable competitors. They have worked extremely hard to be among the best. And its working. Realize them for what they are, and broke you discredit them, remember that the hyundai motor group makes vehicles like the Nexo, G80, K5, Stinger, K900, Cadenza, Palisade, Telluride, and G70. All amazing vehicles that punch above their weight. Get from under your rock🙂😉
I'd have a lot more respect/praise for the neighbor that got the amazing luxury car that this G80 is for 50-55k rather than a 50-55k Mercedes CLA or C300 for the same price. If it's attention you seek, trust me, this gorgeous styling will go far less unnoticed than anything German
With a kid off to college in two years and a big dog who insists on traveling with the family about 90% of the time I won't be rushing to the local Genesis dealer to purchase a G80 or GV80. But one aspect of each does interest me. The standard 2.5L turbo engine is also found in the forthcoming Sonata N-Line, the KIA K5 GT, and (most importantly from my perspective) is optional in the 2021 KIA Sorento. I own a 2018 Sorento SUV with the 3.3L NA V6 and I was skeptical about durability when I heard that engine was being dropped in favor of the turbo four banger. But I was reassured to find the same engine in KIA, Hyundai, and Genesis products, all with the Korean brands' well known 10 year/100K powertrain warranties. Considering the improved fuel efficiency and equal or better performance, if the new engine is durable, it's a win/win. I'm not overly impressed by extended warranties. Like any insurance policy they're not offered if the insurer loses money by redeeming them. However, a long warranty does demonstrate an automaker's confidence in their product. And that often extends to dealers. My local KIA dealer, for example, doubles the 10 year/100K powertrain warranty to 20 yr/200K miles free of charge on vehicles they sell. As far as the G80 is concerned, members of the local country club driving E Class and 5 Series sedans may sneer but at least some folks who are well enough off to belong to the local CC got there by understanding the value of a dollar. When Genesis introduced the new G80 last year in Korea sales of competing Mercedes and BMW models dropped by more than a third. I think Genesis has a winner in both the G80 and the GV80.
Considering sticker and room for the pup, I'd suggest you look at the Hyundai Palisades with the 6 cylinder. Room for 20 pups and less money out of your pocket.
Great review. Interior design is very good, outside it looks elegant but that Superman grill is too much. But it's priced to sell. I bet it Will be a very good selling sedan
This car looks great. If cars were popular these days, it would be a huge hit. Given the current market, it will still be a decent performer and will definitely grab market share. It's SUV cousin (the GV80) is going to sell like crazy. Genesis is getting ready to become what Lexus was back in the 1990's. The competition better watch out.
I've been driving a 3.8 since 2009i still love it. Yeah I lust after the newer models but mine has been rock solid for over 250,000 miles. Remember to change fluids and don't fight over right a ways and you'll be fine.
Hyundai need some massive credit for the latest genesis cars they've put out, I live in the UK and have an hyundai i40 estate and its an amazing car for the money and won me over from previously having a BMW, I cant see genesis coming over to the UK but if this is how they moving forward as a company then bravo!.
People really need to get past badges and what people think about them, I have a buddy who is a surgeon and real estate developer with over $50 million in commercial properties and he drives a Grand Cherokee Laredo. The weird thing about people that try to impress their friends, neighbors or colleagues with cars is that usually they make the same money you do anyway so it makes no sense. LOL
Depends in what field you are in. I'm in real estate and it is very competitive. Your image and appearance is key in making sales. Our top guys drives Bentley's, Aston's, S63's, etc. and some of our newer guys drives like a C class or a 3 series. Even if it's not intentional, people will most likely trust and buy from our top guys since the image that they project is ''success'' (and yes, they are very good at socializing and what they are doing).
@@fearfactz1 Actually I find in sales positions more expensive cars hurt you, people tend to not trust the guy driving the flashy expensive cars, tend to associate that with stealing their money or other untrustworthy activity. My neighbor for example is president of an investment bank and he drives a BMW 5 series and his wife an X5 and before he became president he always drove cheaper cars. I personally tend to avoid the expensive suit, expensive shoes, Rolex wearing types of salesmen, I have seen those types burn way too many people I know in my lifetime, they tend to have a lack of ethics and morals. Another friend and neighbor who also runs an investment bank did the whole red Ferrari convertible thing a few years ago and had it proudly outside his office and that didn't last long, it was gone shortly and the S-Class and Escalade came back. I find the overarching sentiment most people I know that see someone in sales driving something expensive is "so that's where my money is going" and "how much is he ripping me off to pay for that". LOL Of course this is a regional and cultural thing too.
If it looks Bentley-esque, it may be due to the fact that they hired the guy who designed the Conti GT and Bentayga. And they have Lotus helping on handling. And the former M head for dynamics. Altogether that’s a huge investment in talent. It reminds me of when Lexus came stalking Mercedes.
I just finished watching the Cadillac CT4 review before this one. What I noticed about the Genesis is where the trunk hinges go into the carpeted fabric the Genesis has a finish ring while the Cadillac just cut a hole in the carpet. This is the crazy stuff that make me nuts because I'm nuts.
Depreciation is a concern. I looked into leasing a Kia K900 but it didn’t lease well due to the residuals. Maybe as reputation and sales improve the depreciation will improve.
That grille can burn, but the rest of the design is great. Maybe I find the steering wheel kind of strange and droopy? Either way, Hyundai has done a pretty good job with their luxury expansion
Beautiful car inside and out and it definitely stands out in a crowd, unfortunately too many people underestimate it and don't give it the respect it deserves simply because it's not a Mercedes, BMW, Cadillac or Audi and that's a shame because the G80 seems to be the better car.
Genesis isn't an anonymous brand anymore. It's the new Lexus when Lexus was at its peak. It IS a premium brand & the only thing Genesis has to tackle now is having a premium & upscale standalone dealership network. They need the GV80, G80, & G70 to sell well so they can develop standalone dealerships
Hi Tom, I see a lot of oohs and aahs but but very little from actual owners of the car. I have a new 2021 G80 Prestige which I acquired in late February as a birthday present for myself. Even though it is less expensive than and E Class Mercedes or a 5 series BMW comparably equipped it leases for numbers that are as high as or higher than the aforementioned. This is my 3d G80. Actually, to be totally correct, my first was a 2015 Hyundai Genesis which was the prior name for the Genesis G80, but the same car. My 2d was a 2017 Ultimate with the 3.8 311 HP engine. Up till now the G80 has been a reasonable substitute for a Jaguar XJ at a lower price. I say up till now because my prior two G80s had a much better build quality than my new 2021 G80 prestige does. Unfortunately its interior beauty is only skin deep. It is cheaply made with recycled plastic parts that go snap, crackle and pop like a bowl of rice crispiest on steroids. The drivetrain is far inferior to the prior car and the car shakes and shudders like a tractor when the engine starts and shuts down. The car hit's the brakes on its own when uncalled for and the car gets unstable because of this braking action. It can be scary at times. I have a couple of female friends who won’t ride in the car after it did some wacky things at highway speeds which is a shame because it should be a babe magnet.
Tom I forgot to mention in my previous comment, you shoot your videos in a beautiful neighbourhood. I am assuming you live there as well. Thumbs up to you.
Tom, you'll get this comment. In Spokane WA, a metropolitan area with a population of 500,000+ people, there is NO Genesis dealer. Our one Hyundai dealer was told they couldn't sell Genesis unless they committed to spending a few million building a stand alone dealership/building. So now anyone in Eastern WA, Northern ID, or Western MO has to drive to frckin Seattle. Not that we don't like to visit, but that's a hellava trip to have the dealer change the oil....
I'm not sure the dealer was being straight with you (imagine that). Hyundai has allowed more and more of its dealers to handle Genesis after being kind of picky. Standalone showrooms should start appearing in the near future.
@@DrivenCarReviews Well, (3) salespeople all told me the same thing. Granted, none of them were manager level employees. But they still don't have them on the showroom floor almost a year later...
Beautiful machine - big ‘ol kudos to HAG/Genesis for this one. Couple of thoughts: 1) major sticker shock for $3150 upcharge for AWD! 2) Another reverse tachometer? Ugh. 3) Have unfortunately heard a few firsthand stories about less-than-stellar Hyundai dealer experiences, so fingers crossed they’ve polished up the customer service side of things. That aside, fly high and fly far, Genesis!
Tom you're so articulate and your productions (esp. your still shots) are so so good it makes me embarrassed to watch that quirks and features guy. He does the best he can I suppose.
You have no idea how cathartic it is to hear someone say the CT5 is in this class. I hate hearing people, either, never mention Cadillac at all, or mention them but say the CT6 is in the Mid-size category. Thank you so much. I subscribed just for that.
The Genesis G90 is more popular than the German luxury brands (BMW , BENZ , AUDI) in Korea. Korean politicians and businessmen use it a lot. In Korea, rich people and business leaders who have a lot of money sometimes ride the Genesis G90 for business purposes. In Korea, there is a culture of respect when riding a domestic car. Just like the President of the United States uses Cadillac.
Evil Twin has no Driver's Licence? Come on, Tom... You did an excellent job on this review when you consider that you only had 24 hours to test the G80! Very nice features in the back. Love the idea of putting the Universal Serial Bus socket so close from its user! Other car makers should copy that! However, I am not sure about how practical it is (or not!) to open the trunk this way... Probably would have to be tested for a little while. And in REAL conditions. In your red light comment, maybe you could have mentioned the extra greens to put on the table to jump from 4 to 6 cylinders, what do you think? We love your reviews. And your honesty towards your faithful followers, Tom! Keep up the good work, despite these quite troubled times!
A lot of Hyundai and Kia products have the proximity key trunk opening feature so I'm very familiar with it. It works well unless you hang around the trunk often. And hey, I'm not responsible for ET's shortcomings...
@@regalgs51 It was the first generation Genesis G90, aka the second generation Equus (the original Hyundai Equus had even less Hyundai badging than the Genesis sedan which had less than the coupe), that had the iPad manual...
You should start seeing standalone dealerships very soon. The number of Genesis dealers is small because Hyundai revised all the contracts last year to require those selling the brand to agree to build a separate Genesis facility.
Little brand recognition would be exactly what I'd be after, if I were interested in luxury cars. Only the unnecessarily flashy and large grille clashes with the otherwise understated look of the car. The lower price is just a bonus.
I'm not a Genesis (core) customer, but I'm excited for the brand. Next car after my WRX, if they are still around, will be looking at a G70 6m. Hopefully they (Genesis) still keep the same thoughts on driving in the near future.
What's missing is the big brand logo. If people can overlook that, the G80 is truly marvellous. In fact it is marvellous irrespective of brand logo. And Hyundai is a very reliable brand. Edit: I hope they launch the G80, Telluride and Stinger GT in India. 🤞🏻
@@ch6inre6ction11 I just mentioned the parent company mate. Genesis is an unfamiliar name especially for everyday people who aren't much into cars. Knowing that Hyundai has something to do with the product is reassuring atleast in my eyes.
@@Ex-mn2oq I don't think most of the General public knows Hyundai is the parent company because most still don't know what Genesis is. But from the first tests it's clear the General public knows this is a sophisticated luxury vehicle
@@ch6inre6ction11 guess you missed the part where Tom mentioned that you can buy this car in a Hyundai showroom as there are no dedicated Genesis showrooms. Ofcourse they'll know what Hyundai has to do with this. Anyways, a Carwow video mentioned recently how Honda, Toyota and Hyundai are the most durable and reliable brands. The Japanese and the South-Koreans take pride in their build quality.
@@Ex-mn2oq And I bet you never knew that you don't even need to step foot in any dealership to purchase a Genesis...the sales people come to your home and they also can deliver your vehicle in a Genesis specific trailer. Go look it up.
I currently run a S90 for a Livery sedan (limo) in the Boston area. How do you think this compares to that or say a continental (which I know is dead) for back seat comfort. Price is a factor as I keep my cars 3-4 years and put tons of miles on them
The back seat room is very good. I'm 5'10" and with the driver seat in my perfect position, the back seat had enough room for someone 6'3" It is huge. And the doors open wide. It would be worth your time to investigate. Maybe they might have a program for your profession?
@@GlobalTV123 I looked into it back when the Equus came out... They kind of had a limo fleet option, but it really didn't carry anything like what Lincoln offered. Ford sets the standard for fleet. Chrysler surpassed it on paper, but not after sale. GM is more for large fleets only. Volvo did match Lincoln, and I do love the car... But I always need to be on the lookout. Everyone complains about the death of the town car... But seriously, that was a decade ago now. I'm also waiting to see the MPG numbers on the Suburban diesel... But I'm not holding out hop on that one
@@4wazza the problem there is price. It's too close to the S-class and 7 series. Id be able to charge more with the know brand at those rates. I need to keep the spend in the $50k range
Yeah they lost my buisness for that, I've tried the 3.3t, it's not even close to the same level as the 5.0. it felt shakey and unrefined, like a car worth 30 k less
I have never understood the buying something to impress someone else psyche? I believe that would constitute one version, of a fool. I like this car. I would like, not need more power though. Overall, a nicely styled vehicle. Well done Hyundai.
OK I gotta know. Do you take all of the TP home? Do you buy and then return it? Are you just cool with the Costco folks and they let you borrow a cartful for the test?
That sounds like a good thing... for me. So is this just random? I'm just appearing in your "recommended for you" feed? YT is hard to figure out. It keeps moving the goalposts.
The badge thing is no longer an issue at all. Genesis rises.... Jaguar falls. Jaguar has taken a mighty large prestige fall and has a quality perception problem. Kudos to Hyundai / KIA for a relentless pursuit to improve. 2022 GV80 for me.
Genesis brand is very popular with the new wealthy Palm Beach people. Many switched from their Benz etc and in their words:”yes, I am wealthy. No, I’m not stupid! This car has everything I want and saved me twenty grand!” And that is one of many similar conversations I had with people in a couple high end Boca communities where I worked. As for me - I own a Genesis and a new Santa Fe Limited loaded with every option. Love them both!
I've actually seen one of these in the wild. In person, the new G80 is a very elegant looking car.
The Genesis G90 is more popular than the German luxury brands (BMW , BENZ , AUDI) in Korea. Korean politicians and businessmen use it a lot. In Korea, rich people and business leaders who have a lot of money sometimes ride the Genesis G90 for business purposes. In Korea, there is a culture of respect when riding a domestic car. Just like the President of the United States uses Cadillac.
I will never buy another Kia. Period. We contacted the Kia Corporate office to help with an issue we had after our car broke down on the side of the interstate 2 times after being serviced at 2 different Kia dealerships, Langdale Kia in Valdosta and Crown Kia in Saint Petersburg. Kia Corporate gave us the run around, telling us they would send our service request upper management to have it approved. After 3 weeks, they finally told us that no our car wasn’t under warranty! What?! It’s like they didn’t even read what we submitted. Kia doesn’t know how to fix their own vehicles and doesn’t care if they break down multiple times. This has been a horrible
@@dark6c159 I don't like kia I love ford mustang
@@dark6c159 It does sound like an annoying experience, but your cheap Kia has nothing to do with the luxury cars like the k900, G80 and G90. It also sounds like your car is actually not under warranty, so I'm not sure why you'd expect a manufacturer to fix something they never said they supported, potentially many years after you bought it...Basically any manufacturer would ask you go simply take it to a local garage and fix whatever is wrong unless it's something explicitly covered under their warranty or part of a recall. You're also free to get a German luxury car for more money and with 2-3 years of warranty instead of 5-10 if you think it'll break down less often.
I saw one in Washington DC a few days ago it looks very futuristic
Genesis is starting to look very very good.
Newer G70 owner here. I bought it for the tech and luxury, not the badge. Coming from an Infiniti, the dealership experience was so bad that it was almost a dealbreaker. I hope they get stand-alone dealerships soon. Love the car, but It’s not the espresso that’s important, it’s the respect level and customer treatment.
U are not driving the dealership, u driving the car...lol
@@jasonpark4293 haha, I have to agree on all counts - @Roman isn't wrong, but I agree with @Law that a crap dealership experience is what drove me (pun intended) away from VW initially (the real deal breaker being that there were no 4/5 door non-SUV AWD options, at the time).
I've got my G70 3.3TT AWD Prestige on Labor day.
Very happy with it.
Outstanding products with the most unfortunate service experience. Thankfully they're reliable to an extent. They've started with strong sales but Genesis needs to get it right, otherwise their sales momentum will plummet quite dramatically in coming years.
Stunning design. I am seeing Korean cars slowly taking over Japanese makers like they did with electronics 20 yrs ago. Toyota and Honda need to get their acts together. Otherwise, they will become Sony and Panasonic.
@@paulyun3052 Toyota, yes. Honda, take a look at the new Civic. Toyota is just awful in terms of design and innovation.
Toyota and Honda need to improve their styling. Toyotas are just plain boring to look at.
@Andres Perez This comment section is deluded at this point. Korea has never built a better performing or more reliable vehicle to ever be exported than Japan has. Japan has been making quality automotives that last multiple decades for 50 years.
@Andres Perez didn't know the Lexus LFA, RC F, LC 500 and Supra MK5 came out in the 90s.
@@dougn2350 even more boring to drive and be in
If someone's thinking it's a Bentley... Hmm, the guy who once worked for Bentley designed the Genesis G80
Bentley? Nah, it gives me Hyundai Sonota more than anything.
Yeah, his name is SangYup Lee. He also designed the Chevy Camaro.
The Genesis G90 is more popular than the German luxury brands (BMW , BENZ , AUDI) in Korea. Korean politicians and businessmen use it a lot. In Korea, rich people and business leaders who have a lot of money sometimes ride the Genesis G90 for business purposes. In Korea, there is a culture of respect when riding a domestic car. Just like the President of the United States uses Cadillac.
@@mybro727 more like benz...sonata looks like a benz too now..they improved too
@@The-Heart-Will-Testify noo i like the look of the Kia Cadenza i believe it is. That looks good. And the last gen Genesis g80. Those were beautiful. None of the new Korean stuff or the other older stuff do it for me. Benz looks like none of them.
The interior looks like it came from a Jaquar. It looks elegant and luxurious. The appearance simply looks distinguished and beautiful.
This looks nothing like Jaguar it looks far better but ya it’s amazing
Thought jag was extinct?
@@ebonix33 it will be once genesis releases their vehicles
@@adilsagadiyev5090 Lol. Genesis has been a thing since 2015. Jaguar is not worried about the Genesis brand with no identity chasing Bentley’s glory in a budget dress. Genesis fans need to get real, you guys are delusional. Jaguar interiors are shitting all over this, and it’s not just the driver seat that will massage you in the Jaguar. Smh 🤦🏽♂️
@@mybro727 first off genesis also has a massaging seat for the drive AND passenger it’s also wayyy cheaper give it 5 or 10 years people will slowly start to understand
I’m sure Genesis is preparing to introduce a more performance oriented trim in the future. Right now it’s just about launching the new model. Be patient guys.
They’re also working on separate dealerships as well
I will never buy another Kia. Period. We contacted the Kia Corporate office to help with an issue we had after our car broke down on the side of the interstate 2 times after being serviced at 2 different Kia dealerships, Langdale Kia in Valdosta and Crown Kia in Saint Petersburg. Kia Corporate gave us the run around, telling us they would send our service request upper management to have it approved. After 3 weeks, they finally told us that no our car wasn’t under warranty! What?! It’s like they didn’t even read what we submitted. Kia doesn’t know how to fix their own vehicles and doesn’t care if they break down multiple times. This has been a horrible
They are. In Korea, the Genesis G80 sport has been spied multiple times with wheels similar to that of the gv70. Reportedly it will use a more tuned version of the 3.5TT V6, with 420 horsepower, and 413 lb ft of torque.
Performance? In a luxury car? If you want a sports car, get a sports car. The Genesis is a luxury car.
I am driving Acura because I do not care about badges at all.
Genesis will be my next one, even though not sure when it will be.
Amazing car! Wish we had these in Morocco...
this could be my next lease. i'm in love with this car.
Rule of thumb is: It it depreciates, rent it. If it appreciates, buy it.
me too
This looks much more expensive than the $50k price tag or maybe the Germans have been price gouging for years...
Probably the latter 😂
Maybe...
How does it look more expensive than $50,000? How much would you say it should cost?
Yes dressed up Hyundai lol
@@bobogettingstrangled8289 That you can't afford 😂
Genesis are just doing everything right at the moment.
Expect sales numbers brand prestige
This car is beautiful !!
I agree wholeheartedly about buying the car you love and want
I went in for a corolla hybrid but went in for the Camry se hybrid! Just had more goodies and more luxury! And I looooove my car and not everyone likes the styling 🤷🏻♂️
I love the wheels.
I need to check this out at the dealer. BEAUTIFUL!
I do like the side repeater lamps...
It looks good now people just needs to buy them
Lol
Nah dressed up Hyundai no one will
@@bobogettingstrangled8289 they literally share nothing with hyundai. The engines are Genesis exclusive, so is the platform, software, switchgear, design and everything else. Stop saying this is only a dressed up hyundai as a petty means to discredit a true non German luxury sedan. Its really annoying and close minded. You're better than that.
@@greg.anywhere yep still associated with Hyundai lowest of lowest car brand(poor mans brand). Unfortunately in the prestige market that's a deal breaker having association with just low level car brand will be a big issue when it's going after Mercedes and etc.
@@bobogettingstrangled8289 Stuck in the past. It makes sense that some have been living under a rock to see that the hyundai motor group are not just underdogs, or cheaper alternatives, as of today, they are actually formidable competitors. They have worked extremely hard to be among the best. And its working. Realize them for what they are, and broke you discredit them, remember that the hyundai motor group makes vehicles like the Nexo, G80, K5, Stinger, K900, Cadenza, Palisade, Telluride, and G70. All amazing vehicles that punch above their weight. Get from under your rock🙂😉
Stunning interior, Genesis is in a league of their own. 😎
I'd have a lot more respect/praise for the neighbor that got the amazing luxury car that this G80 is for 50-55k rather than a 50-55k Mercedes CLA or C300 for the same price. If it's attention you seek, trust me, this gorgeous styling will go far less unnoticed than anything German
Lovely vehicle. Although its a lot more car than I’d ever need, I would buy one.
With a kid off to college in two years and a big dog who insists on traveling with the family about 90% of the time I won't be rushing to the local Genesis dealer to purchase a G80 or GV80. But one aspect of each does interest me. The standard 2.5L turbo engine is also found in the forthcoming Sonata N-Line, the KIA K5 GT, and (most importantly from my perspective) is optional in the 2021 KIA Sorento.
I own a 2018 Sorento SUV with the 3.3L NA V6 and I was skeptical about durability when I heard that engine was being dropped in favor of the turbo four banger. But I was reassured to find the same engine in KIA, Hyundai, and Genesis products, all with the Korean brands' well known 10 year/100K powertrain warranties. Considering the improved fuel efficiency and equal or better performance, if the new engine is durable, it's a win/win.
I'm not overly impressed by extended warranties. Like any insurance policy they're not offered if the insurer loses money by redeeming them. However, a long warranty does demonstrate an automaker's confidence in their product. And that often extends to dealers. My local KIA dealer, for example, doubles the 10 year/100K powertrain warranty to 20 yr/200K miles free of charge on vehicles they sell.
As far as the G80 is concerned, members of the local country club driving E Class and 5 Series sedans may sneer but at least some folks who are well enough off to belong to the local CC got there by understanding the value of a dollar. When Genesis introduced the new G80 last year in Korea sales of competing Mercedes and BMW models dropped by more than a third. I think Genesis has a winner in both the G80 and the GV80.
Considering sticker and room for the pup, I'd suggest you look at the Hyundai Palisades with the 6 cylinder. Room for 20 pups and less money out of your pocket.
Great review. Interior design is very good, outside it looks elegant but that Superman grill is too much. But it's priced to sell. I bet it Will be a very good selling sedan
Totally agree
This car looks great. If cars were popular these days, it would be a huge hit. Given the current market, it will still be a decent performer and will definitely grab market share. It's SUV cousin (the GV80) is going to sell like crazy. Genesis is getting ready to become what Lexus was back in the 1990's. The competition better watch out.
I've been driving a 3.8 since 2009i still love it. Yeah I lust after the newer models but mine has been rock solid for over 250,000 miles. Remember to change fluids and don't fight over right a ways and you'll be fine.
Hyundai need some massive credit for the latest genesis cars they've put out, I live in the UK and have an hyundai i40 estate and its an amazing car for the money and won me over from previously having a BMW, I cant see genesis coming over to the UK but if this is how they moving forward as a company then bravo!.
People really need to get past badges and what people think about them, I have a buddy who is a surgeon and real estate developer with over $50 million in commercial properties and he drives a Grand Cherokee Laredo. The weird thing about people that try to impress their friends, neighbors or colleagues with cars is that usually they make the same money you do anyway so it makes no sense. LOL
Depends in what field you are in. I'm in real estate and it is very competitive. Your image and appearance is key in making sales. Our top guys drives Bentley's, Aston's, S63's, etc. and some of our newer guys drives like a C class or a 3 series. Even if it's not intentional, people will most likely trust and buy from our top guys since the image that they project is ''success'' (and yes, they are very good at socializing and what they are doing).
@@fearfactz1 Actually I find in sales positions more expensive cars hurt you, people tend to not trust the guy driving the flashy expensive cars, tend to associate that with stealing their money or other untrustworthy activity. My neighbor for example is president of an investment bank and he drives a BMW 5 series and his wife an X5 and before he became president he always drove cheaper cars. I personally tend to avoid the expensive suit, expensive shoes, Rolex wearing types of salesmen, I have seen those types burn way too many people I know in my lifetime, they tend to have a lack of ethics and morals. Another friend and neighbor who also runs an investment bank did the whole red Ferrari convertible thing a few years ago and had it proudly outside his office and that didn't last long, it was gone shortly and the S-Class and Escalade came back. I find the overarching sentiment most people I know that see someone in sales driving something expensive is "so that's where my money is going" and "how much is he ripping me off to pay for that". LOL
Of course this is a regional and cultural thing too.
I know this is a car review but your neighborhood has some beautiful houses
If it looks Bentley-esque, it may be due to the fact that they hired the guy who designed the Conti GT and Bentayga. And they have Lotus helping on handling. And the former M head for dynamics. Altogether that’s a huge investment in talent. It reminds me of when Lexus came stalking Mercedes.
I just finished watching the Cadillac CT4 review before this one. What I noticed about the Genesis is where the trunk hinges go into the carpeted fabric the Genesis has a finish ring while the Cadillac just cut a hole in the carpet. This is the crazy stuff that make me nuts because I'm nuts.
I'll take this one over the e class that don't even offer real leather..
I’d have e class pre facelift version
I have real leather on my E Class, it was an option..
@@2Greenlid a options for real leather on a car that starts at over 50k? Ya no
Another awesome review Tom. Absolutely love the look of the G80!
Depreciation is a concern. I looked into leasing a Kia K900 but it didn’t lease well due to the residuals. Maybe as reputation and sales improve the depreciation will improve.
Great review, thanks Tom!
I always trust your “takes” on every car you present.
That grille can burn, but the rest of the design is great. Maybe I find the steering wheel kind of strange and droopy? Either way, Hyundai has done a pretty good job with their luxury expansion
All engines and trims offer a choice of AWD or RWD. Why can't BMW and Mercedes do that anymore?
Love the twins inserts, even if one of them wears an old leather jacket (no offense 🙈). Great review, as always! You modestly DO a good job 👏
Great Review Tom. You reviews pack lots of great info, driving shots, and funny stuff. Keep them coming
Fun to see how you pieced the clips together, by the clock on the central display. :)
hate the front end would rather have a '67 Pontiac Grand Prix REAL chrome plated steel bumpers, big beautiful design...
Beautiful car inside and out and it definitely stands out in a crowd, unfortunately too many people underestimate it and don't give it the respect it deserves simply because it's not a Mercedes, BMW, Cadillac or Audi and that's a shame because the G80 seems to be the better car.
Genesis isn't an anonymous brand anymore. It's the new Lexus when Lexus was at its peak. It IS a premium brand & the only thing Genesis has to tackle now is having a premium & upscale standalone dealership network. They need the GV80, G80, & G70 to sell well so they can develop standalone dealerships
Maybe among "car people" but not a single person in my neighborhood knew what it was. Pretty much the same in the wild.
@@DrivenCarReviews Wow thanks for the reply lol
No need to be modest. You are the best car reviewer. Period!
It did not even occur to me that Tom only had a rushed and shortened review opportunity with the G80. Great video review as always.
I would argue that this does in fact have a showy badge...there is always an above level luxurious vibe when a product uses a wing logo.
Genesis just looks classy. The timeless classic look is what they are going for.
Hi Tom, I see a lot of oohs and aahs but but very little from actual owners of the car. I have a new 2021 G80 Prestige which I acquired in late February as a birthday present for myself. Even though it is less expensive than and E Class Mercedes or a 5 series BMW comparably equipped it leases for numbers that are as high as or higher than the aforementioned. This is my 3d G80. Actually, to be totally correct, my first was a 2015 Hyundai Genesis which was the prior name for the Genesis G80, but the same car. My 2d was a 2017 Ultimate with the 3.8 311 HP engine. Up till now the G80 has been a reasonable substitute for a Jaguar XJ at a lower price. I say up till now because my prior two G80s had a much better build quality than my new 2021 G80 prestige does. Unfortunately its interior beauty is only skin deep. It is cheaply made with recycled plastic parts that go snap, crackle and pop like a bowl of rice crispiest on steroids. The drivetrain is far inferior to the prior car and the car shakes and shudders like a tractor when the engine starts and shuts down. The car hit's the brakes on its own when uncalled for and the car gets unstable because of this braking action. It can be scary at times. I have a couple of female friends who won’t ride in the car after it did some wacky things at highway speeds which is a shame because it should be a babe magnet.
Tom I forgot to mention in my previous comment, you shoot your videos in a beautiful neighbourhood. I am assuming you live there as well. Thumbs up to you.
I do not. But i visit often.
Tom, you'll get this comment. In Spokane WA, a metropolitan area with a population of 500,000+ people, there is NO Genesis dealer. Our one Hyundai dealer was told they couldn't sell Genesis unless they committed to spending a few million building a stand alone dealership/building. So now anyone in Eastern WA, Northern ID, or Western MO has to drive to frckin Seattle. Not that we don't like to visit, but that's a hellava trip to have the dealer change the oil....
I'm not sure the dealer was being straight with you (imagine that). Hyundai has allowed more and more of its dealers to handle Genesis after being kind of picky. Standalone showrooms should start appearing in the near future.
@@DrivenCarReviews Well, (3) salespeople all told me the same thing. Granted, none of them were manager level employees. But they still don't have them on the showroom floor almost a year later...
Great review as always, Tom! Ta, m8.
Beautiful machine - big ‘ol kudos to HAG/Genesis for this one. Couple of thoughts: 1) major sticker shock for $3150 upcharge for AWD! 2) Another reverse tachometer? Ugh. 3) Have unfortunately heard a few firsthand stories about less-than-stellar Hyundai dealer experiences, so fingers crossed they’ve polished up the customer service side of things. That aside, fly high and fly far, Genesis!
Tom you're so articulate and your productions (esp. your still shots) are so so good it makes me embarrassed to watch that quirks and features guy. He does the best he can I suppose.
Doug DeMuro?
You have no idea how cathartic it is to hear someone say the CT5 is in this class. I hate hearing people, either, never mention Cadillac at all, or mention them but say the CT6 is in the Mid-size category. Thank you so much. I subscribed just for that.
CT5 is one of those really good sedans people don't test drive. Their loss.
that car back out function is only available for 3T engine upgrade package not 2T base package.
The Genesis G90 is more popular than the German luxury brands (BMW , BENZ , AUDI) in Korea. Korean politicians and businessmen use it a lot. In Korea, rich people and business leaders who have a lot of money sometimes ride the Genesis G90 for business purposes. In Korea, there is a culture of respect when riding a domestic car. Just like the President of the United States uses Cadillac.
Evil Twin has no Driver's Licence? Come on, Tom...
You did an excellent job on this review when you consider that you only had 24 hours to test the G80!
Very nice features in the back. Love the idea of putting the Universal Serial Bus socket so close from its user! Other car makers should copy that!
However, I am not sure about how practical it is (or not!) to open the trunk this way... Probably would have to be tested for a little while. And in REAL conditions.
In your red light comment, maybe you could have mentioned the extra greens to put on the table to jump from 4 to 6 cylinders, what do you think?
We love your reviews. And your honesty towards your faithful followers, Tom!
Keep up the good work, despite these quite troubled times!
A lot of Hyundai and Kia products have the proximity key trunk opening feature so I'm very familiar with it. It works well unless you hang around the trunk often. And hey, I'm not responsible for ET's shortcomings...
@@DrivenCarReviews After the year 2020 we've just lived, Tom... don't hold your breath! ;-)
Gorgeous car! Every angle is show stopper...Those wheels look incredible too!
Lol no
I thought the fun fact was going to be that the original Genesis came with an iPad for an owner's manual.
It was the Hyundai Equus that offered the iPad owner’s manual, not the Hyundai Genesis.
@@regalgs51 Oh, good catch. Wait, this is the internet... am I allowed to admit I made a mistake? 😳
@@regalgs51 It was the first generation Genesis G90, aka the second generation Equus (the original Hyundai Equus had even less Hyundai badging than the Genesis sedan which had less than the coupe), that had the iPad manual...
You should start seeing standalone dealerships very soon. The number of Genesis dealers is small because Hyundai revised all the contracts last year to require those selling the brand to agree to build a separate Genesis facility.
Little brand recognition would be exactly what I'd be after, if I were interested in luxury cars. Only the unnecessarily flashy and large grille clashes with the otherwise understated look of the car.
The lower price is just a bonus.
Shout out to Genesis for doing their own thing when it comes to their flavor of luxury.
I'm not a Genesis (core) customer, but I'm excited for the brand. Next car after my WRX, if they are still around, will be looking at a G70 6m. Hopefully they (Genesis) still keep the same thoughts on driving in the near future.
What's missing is the big brand logo. If people can overlook that, the G80 is truly marvellous. In fact it is marvellous irrespective of brand logo. And Hyundai is a very reliable brand.
Edit: I hope they launch the G80, Telluride and Stinger GT in India. 🤞🏻
Why do you say that? You make it sound as if there is still Hyundai badges on it.
@@ch6inre6ction11 I just mentioned the parent company mate. Genesis is an unfamiliar name especially for everyday people who aren't much into cars. Knowing that Hyundai has something to do with the product is reassuring atleast in my eyes.
@@Ex-mn2oq I don't think most of the General public knows Hyundai is the parent company because most still don't know what Genesis is. But from the first tests it's clear the General public knows this is a sophisticated luxury vehicle
@@ch6inre6ction11 guess you missed the part where Tom mentioned that you can buy this car in a Hyundai showroom as there are no dedicated Genesis showrooms. Ofcourse they'll know what Hyundai has to do with this. Anyways, a Carwow video mentioned recently how Honda, Toyota and Hyundai are the most durable and reliable brands. The Japanese and the South-Koreans take pride in their build quality.
@@Ex-mn2oq And I bet you never knew that you don't even need to step foot in any dealership to purchase a Genesis...the sales people come to your home and they also can deliver your vehicle in a Genesis specific trailer. Go look it up.
Wow I like that rim and interior!
I like this car, but I love these wheels.
This will likely succeed against other rival sedans...but will lose out to it's sibling SUV.
Tom you seem like your from the Pacific Northwest or Canadian. Let me know if I'm right.
I miss the Tau 5.0 V8 from the Genesis sedan🥺
They need to keep the price stable for the 2.5 with prestige package at asking price of $58K for 2022.
Although the Hyundai Santa Fe was more than adequate, this is the car I wished I had when I drove from Oklahoma to Eastern Tennessee back in August.
Our 2029 Santa Fe Limited 2.0T is as enjoyable to drive ( almost...) as our G80.
What neighborhood, were you guys filming in? It’s looks very nice and clean!
In the Bellevue area. Near Seattle.
An FX behind the scene EvilTwin video maybe? Best Car Reviews channel on TH-cam.
I love this blue 😍🔥🤩🙌🏽!!
Concierge service with first 5 years of maintenance covered...with 10year drive train warranty...can't go wrong with that!
I currently run a S90 for a Livery sedan (limo) in the Boston area. How do you think this compares to that or say a continental (which I know is dead) for back seat comfort. Price is a factor as I keep my cars 3-4 years and put tons of miles on them
The back seat room is very good. I'm 5'10" and with the driver seat in my perfect position, the back seat had enough room for someone 6'3" It is huge. And the doors open wide. It would be worth your time to investigate. Maybe they might have a program for your profession?
@@GlobalTV123 I looked into it back when the Equus came out... They kind of had a limo fleet option, but it really didn't carry anything like what Lincoln offered. Ford sets the standard for fleet. Chrysler surpassed it on paper, but not after sale. GM is more for large fleets only. Volvo did match Lincoln, and I do love the car... But I always need to be on the lookout. Everyone complains about the death of the town car... But seriously, that was a decade ago now. I'm also waiting to see the MPG numbers on the Suburban diesel... But I'm not holding out hop on that one
G90 used to be Equis is the stretch limo version look for a bargain used before this refresh it would provide a very good backseat customer experience
@@4wazza the problem there is price. It's too close to the S-class and 7 series. Id be able to charge more with the know brand at those rates. I need to keep the spend in the $50k range
Man I can’t stop loving this car it’s soo 😍
Sadly they don’t have the naturally aspirated V8 engines any more.
Yeah they lost my buisness for that, I've tried the 3.3t, it's not even close to the same level as the 5.0. it felt shakey and unrefined, like a car worth 30 k less
Way better review than Doug deMuro. Thanks Tom
We all have our strengths and weaknesses.
Very nice wheels! I hate that automakers mostly have shiny aluminum spokes...
After 2020 IDGAF what anyone thinks anymore which means I can finally buy a Hyundai product and feel no badge shame.
Price? HP and torque for the 3.5? Did I miss that?
I believe the 3.5 V6 has 375 Horsepower.
7:14 how did his hands reach all the way to the front from the back seat o.o
I have never understood the buying something to impress someone else psyche? I believe that would constitute one version, of a fool. I like this car. I would like, not need more power though. Overall, a nicely styled vehicle. Well done Hyundai.
Oh my God this car is magnificent
Yeah finally someone sees that they raised it almost 6k for 2021 MY from 2020 G80 base price.
Screw the car...I just like listening to Tom.
It looks great, inside and out.
I wish they kept the 5.0 V8 as a sport model at least
OK I gotta know. Do you take all of the TP home? Do you buy and then return it? Are you just cool with the Costco folks and they let you borrow a cartful for the test?
Great looking car, I hope they sale tons of them.
There is a stand alone Genesis dealer in Edmonton. I'm sure it's not the only one.
Tom, you're starting to show up in my recommended again!
That sounds like a good thing... for me. So is this just random? I'm just appearing in your "recommended for you" feed? YT is hard to figure out. It keeps moving the goalposts.
Is the AR navigation available on US model?
The badge thing is no longer an issue at all. Genesis rises.... Jaguar falls. Jaguar has taken a mighty large prestige fall and has a quality perception problem. Kudos to Hyundai / KIA for a relentless pursuit to improve. 2022 GV80 for me.
Them wheels tho 👌🏾
Good review!
4 door sedan means evil twin is in the building! Lol 😆
Why is everyone talking about this car being made by Hyundai. I've never seen Lamborghini and Bugatti mentioning Volkswagen.
Car reviews as vivid and uplifting as a rainbow 👍
Terrific interior. Love the leather color.