Yamaha R3 v KTM 390 Duke
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2018
- Following our attempts at passing the Mod1 test, here's a head-to-head featuring Yamaha's R3 and the KTM 390 Duke. Supersport or naked? These A2-friendly pocket rockets answer that very question...
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Please get your own TV show! The new Top Gear for bikes!
Fuck TV, the internet is better in every way
I was thinking about a bigger budget and more money for them because they deserve it. Maybe a show on Amazon prime then?
Everything on TV is utter crap because there are twats that tell the producers what they want. Those twats have no clue but they're the ones with the money.
TV ruins the soul from channels like this. They would have to have a break to talk about a sponsor or their product, tone down the dirty humor that we all love, and be produced by people out to make money. The good thing about YT is that there are no rules or regulations that crush creativity (besides the whole ad-sense thing I guess)
Why put it on tv when you get reviews like this in real time for free. Tv production takes months and months to release
Best motorcycle channel on youtube *period* It's amazing how much effort you put into coming up with unique and worthwhile content and don't even bother to monetize it. Bravo my dudes!
Guys, live these kinds of videos. Anything with the funny interaction feel like the bbb series is always going to be a winner
Ah nice, was wondering if you'd review them after the Mod1 video. Amazing video as always! I feel like reviewing A2 bikes could make a great series (CB300, Ninja 400, G310R or even some of the restricted ones like the SV650 or the MT07)
Great genuine review guys. Really enjoyed this. I nearly bought a KTM Duke some years ago in preparation for my full bike licence, the itch for one is still there, more so after watching this video! Thank you
What the! I've seen the test video when it came out - but TH-cam never had this additional video shown for some reason; now I'm laid up nursing crash injuries, it seems there might be a wealth of 44Teeth content I have missed over the years!!! Time for some happy watching 😊
Fantastic high quality content as usual, every time a video comes out it never fails to amaze. Really can't say enough, the best is to echo what others have said: for sure one of the best (if not the absolute best) motorcycle channel on YT. ❤❤
Those Dukes are super super nice in any capacity 👌
shame they aren't actually reliable
@@bazitube390 owned one for a couple of years I take it?
Bikes now across all the Rangers have come so far. The KTM seems to do everything well. You could have a real hoot on either of these little ripper. Good show again lads.
From India, was considering a purchase between the two. Thanks for your inputs. Coming from the pros, always a delight. I personally would be going with the r3.
Another great review and content lads. Cheers
I love my little Duke 390. I've literally crossed the country on it four times since getting it in December. Wicked little machine.
Great review guys 👍👍
Top quality entertainment and fantastic bike reviews! Loving 44 teeth! 😁
I work at a Dealership that sells both of these, I Hoon around on them a little too much 🤷🏽♂️
This video is a godsend, couldn't choose between the two. Defo now going with the Duke for my first big bike
Jonnie Bassett Try the Ninja 400. You might change your mind.
Yeah, make sure you give Ninja 400 a try before you make your final purchase (unless you're terribly in love with TFT dash with day/night modes and back-lit switches).
Do a bit of research before purchasing it. They got an issue with engines blowing up pretty early. Not sure about other things like maintenance intervals, rust etc. ... just do your research what owners have to say
Actionlutz
Isn't that RC 390 with those issues? I could swear it was RC 390... something about overheating if I'm not mistaken. Please do correct me if I'm wrong.
MackP the RC is just a Duke with fairings, both are based on the same platform
One of these with the Ninja 400 and the MT-03 would be fantastic, keep up the great work guys :)
I live in Japan now and bought my first motorbike last year. I was considering getting the KTM but the reliability issue is what killed it for me, I got the R3 instead. Everyone I know here who has owned a KTM Duke or RC390 has told me about its issues and here in Japan there aren't many shops that can service KTM bikes leading to higher upkeep costs and general pain in the ass.
My R3 is an excellent commuting bike and fun on those day trips on the weekends, not to mention its rock solid reliability.
And yes, the R3 is a stepping stone to something bigger like a R6 or ZX-6R but I feel like I'll definitely keep it around as my daily commute.
Awesome review chaps! saw you blast past the Copthorne hotel next time your in sussex let me know!
I race a Yamaha R3 in the British Junior Supersport and I have also raced the RC 390 in the KTM cup but I found the Yamaha handling was better, however lacks on speed and mid range punch. Not sure how similar RC is to the duke other than the handlebars and fairing, but I would have an R3 over KTM.
jamie le masurier RC has flatter bars but very wide, absolutely shit riding position IMO
You should swap the r3 for the Kawasaki i raced against them they are fast for a 400 twin. Only a few seconds of my 650 laptimes
Everybody does not race.....Dude..
Great review..... I love my 2017 Duke 390.... best little A2 bike for the city.... chuck an Arrow slip on without the spark arrestor and it sounds meaty and gurgly ....... and the cracks and pops are a treat.
The r3 is a lot of fun at the track. But it's badly in need of suspension and tire upgrades, especially for riders over 120 lbs. And once you take off the fender and replace the blinkers, mirrors, and windscreen, the r3 really does look great. The used market is so good for these bikes. Sure the Kawi 400 is a better bike, but you can't find one a couple years old for under $3k.
Another great review,. You two are class, why are you not on main stream TV?
I have a 2020 390 Duke and I love it. I got it second hand from an old guy, 2 years old and only 1,200 km on the clock. Basically brand new and I got an amazing deal on it. The previous owner had core drilled the baffle out of the exhaust and it sounds way meatier than standard without being unbearably loud. It sounds kinda like a dirt bike. I love it. I have been shopping for my next bike, maybe a 790 Duke, but every time I ride the 390 (which is almost every day because I commute on it) then I realise that I don't need a new bike, this thing is frickn awesome and I love it.
Double bloody review 👍😄
R3 is starting to show it's age. Wouldn't be surprised to see Yamaha update it this year!
Great job from the 44 teeth chaps as usual.
44 teeth best UK biking content out there good job laddddssss
Since you are comparing with the duke, why not yamaha mt-03? pairs should be duke - mt03 and rc - r3
You should consider doing a series on the old 400 4 cylinders as they are a2 compliant and are in general cheaper than the newer a2 bikes and with far better components and parts.
For my A2 bike I thought a little outside the box and bought a 1979 cb400... Would be fantastic to see a side by side comparison between these newer A2 specific bikes and older bikes that just so happen to be slow
The r3, with a few mods, seems like a very good first trackday bike for building skills and learning how to keep your momentum up. As well as a bike to keep around to refresh one on the fundamentals. Also, on a really technical track, I bet it would be a blast!
Just sold my 390 for street triple , I'm missing it ☹️ was more on the road , great works chaps by the way 😘
Another awesome video
I completely agree with you two again
Cool. I definetely agree on the Naked vs. racer argument, but then so has the entire industy and community, hasn't it really?
Would love to see a serious comparo test, of how the Duke does alongside the Scrambler 62 and the G310R :)
3.40 I always have time for a bit of 'Razzle Dazzle'! I borrowed a 390 Duke while my 690R was having some recall work and was amazed at how good it was.
I missed out on the whole small capacity bike thing in doing a direct access and going straight to a cbr600, took it in for a service the other day and had a loan cb500x for the day. Had an absolute blast going everywhere full gas and being so light, definitely made me reconsider my choices for my next bike.
i would like to see you guys try the cb500f if you guys ever do an a2 license comparison
i love my r3 and i daily ride it and i got alot of mods for it already which makes it look so much better im keeping mines for longevity i have it 1yr and 3 months and 11k miles already and dont plan on getting rid of it anytime soon
Top Gear for bikes...I feel like you would need a 3rd person....I’d just like to formally put myself forward for that position haha seriously though ;)
Fuck yea... Guest staring a different biker every week. why have TV execs not made this happen allready.
nice to see you here jay
Boom Drifts haha thanks bro you too!
That intro.. spectacular. Makes me want to immediately purchase a saxophone.. and a KTM
Good comparison, would be interesting to see how the Ninja 400 would be against these two
zakelwe well it would be faster
It will decimate these two...
I tend to agree with both comments, would be nice to see a review if 44 can blag one.
don't be so sure..
Ninja 400 all day ;)
You seriously need to get your arses over here to Ireland for the craic. Awesome roads up the mountains, and being an instructor at Mondello Park, I'm sure we can arrange a couple of laps for ya there too! ;)
Please get a 790 Duke vid up! You boys will love it :D
It’d be cool to see some of the restricted options compared, I’m on a monster 797 restricted for A2 and I’d love to see that against an MT07 etc
This channel and smooth jazz music lmao yall kill me.
Hey I thought I recognised those roads! Awesome video.
No nonsense bike reviews with Jason and Sue 👌🏻smashing the pasty out of the TH-cam scene as always boys.
Glad to hear Chris positive about a small bike :)
Would be nice to see the 390 vs the MT03 for A2 upright bikes
I own a 2017 Duke 390. Fantastic bike. Lots of fun to ride.
Guys do i get Two Stickers for the price or are they priced for a single sticker? i was going to order but dont fancy spending £10 on one sticker if that is the case many thanks
The R3 is probably called the R3 because there is a race series for them. I agree it's a shadow of the R1 & R6, but the R3 and R150 (available is Asia) both have their own championship.
You mention that the R3 is a crossplane, I thought it was only a 180 degree. Or am I wrong?
Because I would like to hear a small cc parallel twin crossplane.
God I love that music in the intro!!!
“Small cc bikes are so brilliant!!!”... yet none of these reviewers own one 🤔
Filming ends and they get back on their 1000cc+ daily riders 👀
District Six too lazy to work a small bike
After i ride a 600 or 1000, I can’t ride a small capacity I find it too slow to be honest
I live near the hills and have had all sizes and types of bikes. My favourite is still an Aprillia RS250. Not much will touch a small nimble bike with a little bit of HP in twisties.
Oh god...
Best of all they're always fun without being frightening. If you ride with friends on big displacement bikes they won't go any quicker. Only on open, straight roads will they leave you behind.
Where have you guys been?
Spain. Hola
What you don't consider is the long trip capability. In the USA we have many high speed tarmac, and R3 gives you wind protection. Also it hold to sport saddlebags in the rear, a tank bag, and for long trips a top bag in the rear. I agree with the short comings, and I found an aftermarket seat was absolutely necessary for a 400 mile one day trip. Metzeler Sportec M7RR 110/70 front but a wider 150/60 rear tyre makes a serious difference in all aspects of the bike.
Take a look at the Honda CBR500 please ! a review on one of those would be ideal - top end engines on an A2 license
I'd like to see something like these bikes compared against an older bike like a MC22 cbr250rr from the early 90's...
The MC22's were awesome bikes if you're wanting a sportsbike to learn on... I genuinely miss mine despite owning and riding much bigger, better, bikes.
Mat Prior that bike was a beast im sad they don't really do them in Europe):
Interesting video. I’m in NZ and about to go for my learner license which is up to 660cc depending on power to weight ratio. I’ve been ripping on a Yamaha rd50 which only requires a car license so far, but I’m torn between the parallel twin of the mt-03 or a bmw 310 or ktm
Hey mate I'm in NZ too what did you end up getting??
I agree the Duke is the winner here. So much so that it's the reason I bought one to use as my commuter bike instead of piling the miles on my tuono factory. Lovely little bike
I'm looking to get an a2 bike and my heart tells me to get the Duke but the reliability issues are putting me off. What's you're experience been since you've had yours?
I am going to be doing my A2 soon and the bike that I would really like to get is the Kawasaki z300, the looks and coming off a 125 with 9 bhp the power of the z300 will be enough for me for 2-3 years maybe more
Hi Guys, I have a question for Chris. I know that you are a tall rider, would the KTM fit a 6ft 4" male, and is the 390 frame the same size as the 125cc?. Keep up the good work guy's.
Nice view of 2 behinds in opening credits
I can't argue with their points but I still want an R3...I kinda want the mock sports bike because I want to do track days and i already have an upright bike. A 2017 Triumph T120. I feel like getting a 390 is too samey because it's the same style body position wise as my Triumph
When are you getting your hands on 2024 390 Duke? It comes with Apex suspension and removes one of the two bottlenecks of suspension and brakes. Cheers!
I'm curious how tall the rider on the 390 duke.. I sit on the duke tippy toe at 5'10 .. is the bike lowered ?
I am looking at getting a 390 duke for my commuter, would you recommend one?
Quality , little bikes are taking over ✌🏻
Both of those are nice bikes. Makes me wish I was 18 again. Only negative are those donkey ears for mirrors on the KTM.
I ride a 2006 zx6r, thinking of going to a 390 Duke, a few reasons including easier maintainence, the price of fuel but mostly comfort of being more upright.
I CANT WAIT FOR THE NEXT BUDGET BIKE 🏍 BATTLE 🏍💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨
How different is the Vitpilen 401 to that duke?
Amrit Swain different body
Trying to figure out my first bike..tossing up between mt07, cb500f or 390 duke.. Any suggestions fellas?
I absolutely love my girlfriends Duke 390! It's a riot to ride.
Lucky man, I doubt I'll ever convince mine to get anywhere near one hahahah
I keep remembering Fast Bikes videos from the 90s.... Stoppies are ok for the motorcycle.... I'll find the video of The Trip to the South of F one day :)
U British people are pure class. Great job 44teeth, subscriber here.
How come you never mention the CBR500R for an A2 bike? Just curious as I have one :)
One thing i was thinking about is the fact that the Duke 390 can be ridden anywhere in the world comfortably and it's absolutely beautiful anywhere in the world - in cities that have limited infrastructure, offroad, highways, in the himalayas and the Himachal Pradesh, in bad traffic, on poor roads and even on great roads it's fun as the power comes early and it can be thrashed around. True all rounder.
what boots are you wearing? I love the orange
Proud to own one! It’s a joy up in twisties andin city pure fun!
how come people dislike this vid? brilliant stuff guys
The dash on the KTM is just as sexy as the old Aprilia Mille ones.
I think you need to add one more element to your comparison test, the LCR muffin under the seat test. 😂😂😂
Love it!
So when are you guys going to ride to Morocco on them two then ?
Great Banter as always.
Can you turn off abs on the r3 like the duke 390???
Watched this when it came out, just bought a ktm 390 duke and saw this video appear again, got to agree with everything Al and Chris said, by far the most fun I have had on a bike in a long time. And for the price I paid i'm astounded at how good it is.
I've got a Duke 390 as a 2nd bike I love it! Probably more than my triumph.
Hey Nick. Good choice, I've got a Daytona 600 and have just bought a 390 Duke. It's early days for me as it's not even had it's 1st service yet but I'm struggling with no power and really jumpy at low revs - in slow traffic I have to drop down to 1st as it's unrideable in 2nd below 4K. Is this normal? Cheers
999pez yep, it's normal, just had mine serviced and it feels a lot better now, but not 100%. Keep it revving higher... I'm guessing the bike used on this video was before the first service?? I suggest they get it serviced and then take it out. I wouldn't say its a different beast, but it's more rideable and fun as you have more rev range to play with.
Thanks Nick. Yes, I can't wait for 1st service so I can open it up.
i have the 390 duke also, yeah in lower revs under 5k its shuddering alot, but above 5k revs its very fun to ride
@@999pez I own a duke 390 as well.
And yes, it's really jumpy in traffic and not a lot of punch in the low revs.
Here's an amazing solution and even better,is that it's extremely cheap.
The Duke 390 comes with a 15 teeth front sprocket but the Duke 250 comes with a 14 teeth front sprocket.
It's an simple swap and also completely eliminates the jerkiness and makes riding in traffic,in 2nd gear so much better.
Highly recommend it.
Here in India,the sprocket from the 250 costs 195 rupees.
So I guess like 3ish pounds.
Those Dukes were selling for £3k not too long ago, was sooooo tempted
have KTM sorted the cooling issues on the 390? The old version had problems keeping the engine cool!
Matthew Perry yes they fitted a big radiator
It still does, but has reduced a bit. Cools much faster.
My 2015 model had an ecu issue where the bike ran so lean, the engine did an emergency shutoff after idling 5 minutes on a cold engine, it would already be at operating temp after 2 minutes of idle. That was fixed by the dealer however, she works great now :)
what would be cool is a A2 naked shootout between the 390 duke and the honda cb500F as thats on the limit for the A2 restriction
That 390 looks like a right hoot - not sure what the point in a racebike look on a 300 is really, but variety is the spice and all that I guess.
I would definitely get the new R3 because of overall quality feel, looks and highway-ability.
The 390 is a riot with such a good engine but when I test rode it, it kept feeling like it was about to brake. It surely was not but it felt like it.
I just hope that the engine on the R3 is not going to get boring to quickly and that the position will not be to radical coming from a Yamaha MT125.
4 years late but I am currently on a mt125 going for my A2 soon would you recommend the 390 or the r3?
@@scobus follow your heart brother! ✌️
Personally I waited for the end of my A2 and bought a Honda Hornet 600
Ride safe, peace !
@@guillaumed1691 appreciate that man 🤝 I will 💯
they look ace but you certainly can take a 125 away for the weekend haha, me and my friends road from Gloucester to Essex, Colchester and back on a weekend that was yzf r125
Chris makes a very good point about the enjoyment of thrashing a smaller engine... Please, please Mr KTM; put the 690 in a race-rep body!
Baron has been matching his bikes to his boots of late, or is it the other way around. Orange for the Duke 390, green for the ZX7R. Think it influences his opinion ;-P