'60s Indy Kart Resto Pt. 2 | Sandblasting, Paint, Assembly!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- We're restoring our 1960s go kart, the "Crue Cut Indy 500". Given that this vintage go kart is over 50 years old, the frame needed to be sandblasted to remove the rust, then painted with a rust encapsulator. We also clean up the fiberglass body, and reassemble the kart. We decide on a Predator 212 engine as a temporary power plant, but we want to eventually install a vintage, period correct engine on this Indy 500 go kart.
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Use an old 2-stroke.
Dokter Stiefel yes
My thoughts exactly, like an old McCullough.
Obviously
Some guy on an earlier video suggested taking a 6ish hp 2stroke lawn boy engine and turning it on it's side, that could potentially fit this build
Yep
i have a vintage briggs sold by sears and roebuck, circa late 1950s early 1960s, message me if you want details on it. i do believe i had it running on dribbled gas last summer. oil bath air filter is included, as is the glass bowl carb, and i think i have some parts somewhere to rebuild most of the carb too
Do you live close to them though?
Shipping a hunk of iron across the states prolly isn't cheap
Josh, can you get any part numbers off the carb? More than likely they may end up switching to a mikuni or something to that effect if they cant find a rebuild kit in a timely manner
Since the conclusion of this video got cut short: basically we’re going to use a lightly modified 212 on this engine (sorry not sorry purists, they’re cheap and powerful) until we get more information/find a period correct engine to install. Next time we’ll finish up our engine mounts and do some massive one wheel burnouts. I’d really like to build a replica with a live axle, lots of power, updates brakes, etc but making a mold of a body would be quite expensive.
I think you should do some updates to the cart itself. Making it a proper live axle and adding better brakes. You really could leave most of it alone and basically turn it into a restomod cart.
Actually not really a small mold like that would be about the cost of making 3 bodies .So if you make and sold 5 bodies then it would be free .
That cart needs a 2 stroke motor 80-125 cc ,light weight for the frame and enough power . Old John Deer or a McCulloch
I'm sure you could work out a deal with mustie for a period correct engine
Put a 2 stroke dirt bike motor in it
the brake bar with the paddles is installed upside doOwn
"Harder than woodpecker lips" ? That's some pretty hard sh__ !!
I laughed my ass off at that! Caught me off guard!!!!!!
Best country description ever!! Go big Ike!
Shoulda said " harder than a propane tank or propane accessories
So hilarious OMG! I gotta use that one IKE LOL!!!!
I was rolling!!!!! Stealing that one!!!
The engine sitting higher looks 👍.......gives it more of an old f1 look
Your starting to look like marve from home alone lol
I know but garden tractors are heavy and are made for the power of a 670
Hey dungfly what comment are you responding to?
True 🤔
Get a John Deere 2stroke snowblower engine it would be accurate to period edit: there also small and light.
Best idea
TWO STROKE !!
Yeahh
Yes
Obviously
I honestly think that is the way to go right now, the powerband and characteristics of a 2stroke is perfect for the body type, and if they keep it small cc it wont be too torquey = no twisting of the flimsy frame.
I sat try to find an old 60's or so two stroke, keep it simple and classic, and you've got yourselves a winner!
Yeah two stroke the best of all the strokes
You guys pulled a Sopranos on us
@Tony Kiritsis 😁
The new camera person adds alot to the vid. Great job.
You guys save and restore so many karts and bikes, it is truly inspirational to so many of us, viewers. Your passion and skill for building these machines has been incredible to watch and learn from. Just wanted to say thanks and send you an internet high-five.
I vote for an old 2 stroke as well. :)
Kyle Brown I agree
Love this project guys keep it up !! Something cool about the vintage projects
Great video as always guys!
Sandblasting is tedious work, but the right media makes a difference. See if you can run medium grit Garnet in your machine. I used it in my 60 horsepower vapor blaster and it cut right through rust and paint. Also, try putting down a plastic sheet to capture some of that debris. You may reuse it, or at least avoid leaving piles of sand in the yard.
Sandblasting is so freaking satisfying!!
FLAT HEAD BRIGGS RAPTOR With a tillotson carb !!!
Do you think some one flipped the brake upside down? It looks weird as if the leading edge is supposed to be the trailing edge.
Just found this channel a week or so ago... And I am loving these builds. And I cannot stop laughing every time I hear the guy with the hat talk. Reminds me of John C. Reilly's character from Talladega Nights. LOL! I just want to call him Mike Honcho hahaha Shake and Bake, Shake and bake!
Best wrap up of a video so far this year do far!!
Suddenly the video was ov... 😄👍🏻
Stefan Walter 😂😂😂
You guys are my new drug of choice. You make very interesting and well shot videos, nice job overall. Can't wait to see what's next.
Ike...even when hooking up a sand blaster....
"I think we're gonna be good. "
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"Harder than woodpecker lips"...LOL! Excellent Ike!
I love these videos so much! Keep them coming guys!
Man! You can tell, Ike, you're treating this thing like a baby!
Anyone watching this while they should be at school? Worth it.
Hey guys, just a heads up..when you sandblast if you'll put a tarp or even an old sheet down on the ground under your workpiece you can reclaim a good bit of your abrasive rather than using a fresh bag every time you need to refill. Save some cash that way. Love the build. Good video as always 👍🏻
great work guys, yet again your resto hacks have brought a big impression to us. we want to make stuff nice too! great vid.
POR15 no doubt the best, used it on the frame of my C3 when I pulled the body off it. 🤙
I painted my 76 with rustolem.
I remember seeing a Christmas parade in Brevard n.c. when I was 5 yrs old, this was 1969. The shriners had 4 of those karts. I was amazed
Hi, I worked at Crue Cut Mfg Co in Kansas City Missouri from about 1970 until 1980, first as an assembler and later as the assistant plant manager. I built several of these cars, but you are right in that few were built. We also built the T-10 Model T and several other small minicars. This company was founded in the early 1960s by Dale Gosser, after he purchased tooling from McDonough Power Equipment, predecessor of Snapper lawnmowers. We probably only built 2-3 of the Lotus's per month, compared to about 100 model Ts. About 1980, Gosser sold the company to Charles Sharp, his plant manager, and it was moved to Gardner, KS and became known as Sharp Minicars. Charile passed in Jan 2019. The original engine was a Tecumseh, first 3 hp then later 5 hp. I believe the model #'s were H30 and H50. To get them to fit in the allowed space, we removed the gas tank bracket, cut it, re-welded them with a modification, then remounted the tank. The brake problem you mentioned was of factory design and the way you showed it in the video is how it left the factory. The frames were simply painted with silver paint from aerosol spray cans. I am very surprised to see how good of condition this is in after the length of time. I believe we purchased the steering wheel from a company that was known as Azusa, somewhere in California. The bodies were fabricated locally using our master molds. There are no patents on the body style so go for it in making reproductions. FYI, I about this time started a small company building a 1932 Street Rod, mini-car production. I later sold this to Sharp Minicar. I have seen several of them on the internet and they may be still in production. They were a very cool, much heavier car built with square steel tubing and a fiberglas body. Maybe you can find one of those to restore! Let me know if you have any other questions - I can probably answer them.
Ohhh I love this thing! The look is soooo..... Nice!
It looks good in black! And I think it looks nice with the predator it gives it that aggressive look. Just can’t wait to see how it looks with the new racing tires!!
After this episode i started my own research into your kart and went to Google vintage kart's then there it was i could not believe my eyes It was Isaac's doppelganger with the same Crew Cut Kart !!!!! Unbelievable.
David Goodrich link, I searched did not find it
@@mowler8042 Go to vintage go karts (google ) then click on images....It's the thumbnail for the video just thought it was funny. What's next Wikapedia?? LMAO.
Back in the 60’s it was common to use 2 strokes in toys and utility and of course snow machines. OMC made a 1 cylinder 2 stroke air cooled just for that purpose, they used them in Cushman bikes and truckster’s it’s a taller but narrower motor that should fit you cart . I don’t have a single cylinder here but they are available and parts are still available through Sierra . Good luck
POR...Paint Over Rust. That's good stuff. It's recommend to remove as much of the flaky surface rust as possible before applying so, the amount of sandblasting you did was about all that was needed. A remote mounted fuel tank would be the best option to use with one of your vintage engines. Adapt an appropriate replacement carb & pulse pump and it'll be fine.
Wow that thing is so cool great find
You need an updraft carb for the briggs. Tank mounts above head so would fit. Another great vid guys. Thank you.
Y'all find the coolest stuff keep up the great work
the fact you didn't tear it apart completely before sand blasting and painting really bothers me...
thats sure not a proper restoration
I don't think they are going for a "proper" restoration on this. Just making it mostly nice again.
It'll be fine!! LOL
Plus, if they decide to build a new more modern frame as a replica, at least this one will be well preserved!! LOL
There's honestly no point.. as someone who literally spend 3 weeks prepping and painting a Go-kart frame as perfectly as possible, I can tell you it'll get messed up within that month of riding unless you specifically ride only on pavement, which I don't.
I no what you mean
I was screaming at the screen
Throw some flitz polish on a rage and polish that body out to bring it back some more! It would look sweet a little polished up! Good video guys!
kickin it old school,both my thumbs up,cart and i are the same exact age keep goin guys
Another great build guys I love watching your videos Love the cool stuff you build I'm in to Building things myself
Awesome video!
I love this go kart!
I am now just about caught up with all your vids!!!! i have watch them all from the start! Keep up the good work
I love this series:)
I watch you guys work through these projects so easily. It's entertaining. Then you got people like me that can barely mount a predator on a mini bike.
Maybe a WISCONSIN engine would be appropriate? They're old and rare... seems to fit with the theme of this project. Just an idea, keep up the good work y'all!
love it one of my favorite builds awesome music
I can guarantee you, there is a whole motherload of Pb Lead in that classic red and white auto paint. Thank you for entertaining and sharing.
Looking good!!!
Por15 is not a paint per se. It’s a metal sealer/rust inhibitor. I’ve used it for years and I’ve found that it works much better if you also use their degreaser and metal prep. That does add time to the project though. It doesn’t hold up well to UV light either. It works great for fibreglassing too since it doesn’t rot. Enjoyed the video guys. Keep em coming.
Looking good!
The engines for these era karts sat quite low. They were completely covered with a rear fiberglass hatch and were not visible at all. B&S flat top engines were choice engines as they sat low.
Use the smokey racing Briggs & Stratton engine. It still runs right?
This is so awesome
It's a resto/mod , which is cool I like it .
Yup another good vid guys
Lol odd ending. Cant wate for Wednesday. Thanks you guys
Good video
your videos are sooo good. my favorite to watch on here!, thank you, God bless us all good, I'd love to meet ya one day :) you 2 are awesome!
The predator looks great on there, but I understand the point of keeping it period as much as possible. I really hope y'all manage to find an engine that fits the time period of this kart and fits in the area given for the engine. Good luck you two. Keep up the great vids.
Find like a 2 stroke engine from a smaller motor cycle or
Lookin good
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I think it looks better with the 212 predator engine protruding. And yes I remember seeing them in the local lawn mower shop window when I was a kid in the 1960's. Scruff brakes were typical of gocarts and minibikes of the vintage. The alternative at the time was a brake band that tightened on the circumference of the centrifugal clutch. Of which stun k to high heaven if you broke the drive chain.
Cool cart
The brake is upside down that would make the rod above the frame
Agreed, the whole shaft is upside down. The paddles should be below the shaft, not above.
I thought the same on the first vid of it too
They are the correct way around I just found a bit of research www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthread.php?t=9007
It would be pretty sick to take a mould of the body and build another fibreglass body for a new project. With a scratch built frame and space for a bigger engine. Huge project but could be an awesome build!
As far as your brake linkage issue, I think if you look at the system, it's been flipped upside down. The paddles pressing back against the tires opposite the rotation is probably hard on the tread and the paddles. If you flip it over 180 degrees I bet the rod would tuck up inside the frame under the body and it would put the brace for the linkage up out of the way of bumps and tree roots. Just my two cents. Love the videos, Ike reminds me of all the shade tree mechanics and good 'ole boys I knew growing up in middle Tennessee. Keep up the great stuff guys.
Love your videos
Do a full build for a tecumsah or Briggs or something. Like an old muscle car kinda build. Also the quality of your videos keep getting better. Keep it up!
Your videos are awesome
You need a Tecumseh H60....thats the model for a mid 1960s Sears lawnmower. We had one when I was a kid. Put a newer H70 on it and put the H60 on a 1951 David Bradley....that old garden tractor would throw dirt in the air if you opened it up plowing..Hehehe. Grandpa ran out the house yelling "You're gonna tear it all to Hell"
It was fun, though...
I have loved y’alls videos for a long time now and I love when have vintage projects but with this one I think restoring it to its former beauty is the wrong approach I think you guys should take this opportunity to make a rad rat rod styler tuner kart but that’s just my opinion on the matter. I still love the videos you guys make and can’t wait to see more of this build
Thanks, guys.
Have you guys thought of leaving the "Stock" Brake Paddles, but converting to Disc/Drum brakes?...
Just attach the brake cable to the "OEM" Arm and run with it!
This way, it's STILL STOCK, and can easily be converted back!
Rock On guys!
-Thomas (12)
Port Orchard, Washington
I like it!
POR 15 is meant to be a base coat, you must paint over it with a good quality paint (Rust-Oleum) in order to keep the UV Ray's from breaking it down. ( The only thing that will break it down).it will break down and fade , ...learned my lesson.
That engine you pulled off is a Tecumseh HMSK80 8 hp snowblower engine. Great engine!! Find a good running replacement.
i like the idea of a huge modern engine sticking way out the vintage kart...kinda like making a model A fly
Crazy that thing is 45 years away from being 100!!
Try dual external brake linkage rails out board of the chassis for safety, dont be aftaid to do a little metal fab, it could always be returned to 'vintage' if wanted. The current setup looks almost like an afterthought . Bravo on the resto !
Predator isnt vintage but it looks so so good on that cart im excited to see it on there and how that thing will shred with it! Love your guys videos!
Have you considered an electric crazy hobby brushless motor and making a cover for the back to complete that vintage look, it would be new for you guys and will be very fun and interesting to watch. Thanks guys keep up with the content!
I love you guys.
Man the rain is killing your guys yard too...I live a little over 3 hours from you guys and my yard is nothing but mud
You guys should get a hold of Mustie 1 on TH-cam. He's always resurrecting old small engines and may have one on hand.
trick that works is using sandbox sand and a screen door I'm sure you can put two and two together. Did a resto on 63 Impala using the sandbox sand on the frame and it did a real great job on the frame before painting
Maybe it’s cool to remove the gas tank from the engine and put it underneath the body! Grippy tires wide stance, looks good you guys keep up the great work
Dam u guys drag with videos. Been waiting since last Wednesday for another video and all u guys did was sandblast and paint and talk about it. The restoration u guys are doing should be a day project
bob rider Hey now, they’re just coming off the holidays...give ‘em a break in early January!
2 videos a week, Monday and Wednesday I believe
You guys should really top-coat the POR-15. They recommend that, and for years I was like "Bah, I don't need to do that." and then UV turned all the black parts a weird yellow-brownish and I figured I probably should. Just some advice to keep it looking decent for as long as possible.
It looks proper. Very proper. Go fast or go home!
Put the darn thing on some saw horses and sand blast it. My back hurts watching this video.
That and some sandblasting containment
chefdan87 mine too 🤪
I'm a former sand blaster that is the worst job I've scene.
such a badass shop and no sand blaster CABINET #carsandcameras
POR15 is a rust reformer and it is designed to stick to rust so there really wasn't a need to sand blast it unless you just wanted it to be smoother
The brake bar needs flipped so paddles face down and linkage above frame not below
Spoke wheels would look crazy on that thing
predator 212: the LS of the go kart world
I'd love to see an all Sachs rotary engine on there!
Great stuff. You might find your stopping distance to be increased dramatically with the Preditor engine. If you are only temporarily using the engine you might consider temporarily adding better brakes.
Fix the brakes. Vintage motor. Take your time.
Seems pointless to put a predator on it if the brakes won’t stop it.
Might just be me but those brakes look like they belong in the garbage and I would rather watch you build an old engine to put on it.
Is the chassis even safe enough to be run at high speeds?
Why vintage motor but not vintage brakes? All or nothing.
Can we confirm without a doubt the brakes are original?
Randall Zrubek I agree but it is hard to believe that brake setup is original. It looks cobbled in like the engine replacement was.
@@andrewbottrell1048 they are I dont have a indy 500 go kart but i have an 80s naskart and the brakes on it are like that