The Unappreciated Brilliance of Floch Forster
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- SeaTactics discusses the Unappreciated Brilliance of Floch Forster in Attack on Titan Final Season. Comment below what you think about Floch Forster and as well your thoughts on Attack on Titan Final Season Part 2. If you enjoyed my Attack on Titan Final Season Floch Forster Character Analysis, then give this video a like. Thanks for watching!
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Intro - 0:00
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Joining The Survey Corp - 1:03
The Battle of Shinganshina - 2:08
Floch's Shattered Dreams - 3:44
Straight To Hell And Back - 4:54
Sole Survivor - 5:57
The Truth, Even If It Hurts - 7:25
The Birth of The Yaegerists - 9:09
Dedicating His Heart - 10:23
Floch Is What Erwin Can't Be - 12:00
Unappreciated Brilliance - 12:56
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video on how you think of the yeagerist and what they shoulve represented or such! awesome video
Btw you miss one of Flochs most important lines.. After he got up looking around at all the dead bodies he asked himself "why am i still alive?"...
How was he chosen by Erwin to live?
U pronounced and wrote shinganshina. Why?
It's seem you don't truly understand character of floch you are just a child
You like Floch because he's a well written character, I like Floch because he supports genocide. We are not the same.
quirky
🤣🤣
LMAOO
Me too lol
based
Floch is the shadow of Erwin, in both the literary and the Jungian psychology way.
He was created by Erwin's decisions at Shiganshina, has devoted his life to the rationalization of his survivor's guilt, and shows how Erwin's charisma and nationalistic spirit can be weaponized.
As someone else put it, "He's the side character who became a main character because everyone else was too busy being dead."
Dis right here is a good comment.
I love this comment
He was never the shadow of erwin. Erwin would never be ok with genocide.
@@eveegirl2878 the same Erwin who had eren and Annie fight in the middle of Stohess just to capture her?
@@nobodae3296 Was that made to deliberately kill people????
S3 Floch:Im Scared, I don't wanna die
S4 Floch: I will fight for my people even if i'm gonna die.
I will always respect floch
He takes pleasure in torturing others, don’t be fooled into thinking he’s doing anything solely for righteous reasons. He’s a sadistic sociopath who’s on a power trip at the end of the day, using a righteous goal is an excuse.
@@crabPEOPLE2000 hate bro idgf i like him for his loyalty and if you think i hate allaince no i don't hate allaince
@@ajyeager1830 sure dude if what you’re taking away from this super well written manga/ anime is “alliance = justifying genocide” then go for it homie
@@crabPEOPLE2000 bro i watch it for fun and entertainment because its fucking fictions i will not argue with you guys whats right whats wrong aot fandom is childish if you don't like there fav character you are evil and support genocide grow up kid have a life have enjoy
@@crabPEOPLE2000 thats why i like him 🗿
i never hated him, i always understood his reasons and i honestly think, he’s a very well-written character. thanks for the video, you made me open more my eyes for such a brilliant character.
Fr, I always thought of him as a tragic character, having watched so many people die brutally and questioning whether he even deserved to survive probably pushed him to simply disregard lives that aren’t on his side.
Same. Never hated this guy. I mean why hate him, his reasonings were always correct and based
I liked his character
@@King-vx7dt bro killing people who don’t agree with isn’t based lmao
@@lilmupp875 you can say same about them when his people were killed
What I love about Floch is that before he charged against Zeke and before he became Eren's Dragon, he saw himself as a coward who jumped into something beyond his capabilities. That charge? Changed him. First, it proved to himself that he is not a coward. Second? Surviving the charge? Filled him with a sense of purpose. All he wanted after that was to make _it_ count: his survival and his death. People see him as a power-grabbing fascist, but while that may be a valid interpretation I also see a completely selfless patriot willing to do whatever it takes for the cause he fights for to succeed. There is no such thing as a bloodless revolution. He is selfless because aside from some of the risks he takes for Eren all carrying a large chance of him getting hanged if they failed, he's there risking himself. Participating in the fight. Leading the men. Openly declaring his intentions. A coward after power wouldn't risk the possibility of dying and not enjoying that power. No, Floch legit sees what he's doing as necessary to restore order and usher in the new age he believes Eren will give their people. When he says "Sasageyo" despite twisting it to suit his propaganda purposes as the Number Two of the Yeagerist party--he still genuinely believes it.
KING FLOCH FOR LIFEEEEEE 💞💞💞💞
Him being the line survivor of the charge makes me wonder if anyone else survived would they act the same way as floch. He’s the only survivor who went through that. No one else knows what it’s like. No one
@@kaijuliet5685 Oh, they would have acted differently. They would have all changed, sure. I'm willing to bet on that too. You don't come back from that experience the same person who went towards it. But they would have all had different realizations from what Floch had. Had Marlo lived, for example, I believe he would have realized what was really important in his life and stopped being an aimless martyr looking for a cause. Marlo wanted to help because aside from being a generally good person he felt useless and he didn't want to be like the corrupt MPs he saw. After that charge? He'd be kinder to himself and realize he has value, he doesn't owe anyone shit, and his happiness is his own choice. He'd still help around because he likes it, but he'll be loathe to offer his life for any cause he doesn't 100% believe needs it. Hell, I have a feeling with his post-charge epiphany he might have proposed to Hitch immediately afterwards. 4 years later, he might be a married man with kids. Retired from the army and living in the interior. He wouldn't form the Yeagerists. At least not as Floch did. He could be pro or anti Eren for different reasons: pro because assuming he started a family himself he'd be loathe to go with Zeke's plan and sacrifice his and his family's future, and anti because he's still a principled guy who knows genocide, even of his enemies, is wrong. But, point is: Floch acted like Floch. Everyone would act as themselves. Everyone would get an epiphany. But not everyone gets the same kind.
A "completely selfless patriot" who will do whatever they need for the nation state at the expense of all else is basically just facism, so yeah he'd basically be Stalin if Eren decided to not go full genocidal and then took over afterwards and did it, especially if Eren was actually right in the end and didn't try to destroy the world but then Floch took over after Eren dies (against Eren's wishes)
That's basically the story of Lenin and Stalin, Lenin was ruthless but actually wanted socialism and communism and freedom eventually to happen, Stalin just wanted power and used his influence to gain it and went full facism after Lenin and make the USSR look even worse kind of like how Eren actually did
The story of the USSR under Stalin and China's CCP is very similar to attack on titan's Marlyans and Eldians the capitalist world lied and tried to smother the potentially peaceful and communist utopias and then turned them into the monsters they said they were by inflation and subversion into facism 😩
@@smileyp4535 bro stop this neoliberal idealist crap lol, if you were at shingashina you would be a yeagerist
I never hated Floch at all, I honestly love seeing him on screen, great character development and always interested to see his next move.
An cowardly, slightly ignored and unprepared fanboy who just did not quite grasp what he just walked into.
To an understandable and justified fanatical monster.
Nobody thought that flock of all people would end up leading the charge for the end of the world. Nor that when he finally went down it would be one of the best deaths of a cherictor not just a villain.
Same here.
Is that bcuz u can relate to him?
Or is he doing the things that u would do if u were in his place?
@@harfat2015 His actions are understandable and you can see where he’s coming from. The Marlyians want to genocide the people within Paridise Island. They want to scrub them from existence. So imagine if you spent 75% of your life believing you are the only people on earth. You’ve been trapped behind a wall because if you come out you’ll be shredded limb by limb and eaten. One day the wall is breached by two massive titans. The most horrifying monsters you could imagine.
Floch has really internalized that Eren speech. He doesn’t want his or his comrades deaths to be meaningless. He joined the scouts to seek freedom and allow humanity out of the walls. Living peaceful, free and happy lives.
@@harfat2015 Yes.
Floch accurately predicted the ending ,so he's the smartest as well😌
He was always right
He really was, everything he said was straight fax, about armin being chosen and paradis future but he was still kind of an asshole lol
He doesn’t miss 😎
He was always right.......that's why cringe alliance supporters hate him lol
I don't understand why hate Floch. he's doing nothing wrong. he is protecting his homeland and staying loyal to his comrades and friends, _unlike some people i know_
If I were on Paradis, Floch is a goddamn hero. I’d want him on my side no questions asked if he believed in my cause
Agree
Floch is the most comprehensive portrayal of PTSD I’ve seen in anime. I love how he strikes a tone of bleak realism in the story and reminds us that the Everyman fears for his/her life and theres no real shame in that. Floch isn’t the coward he thinks he is, he just doesn’t wanna die horribly, like a regular person. He’s no hero and never claims to be.
Answers like these are always so shortsighted to me
@@Aden_III you’ll have to elaborate
@@Aden_IIIIt's been a year. Elaborate already.
Even if i hate him hes such a well written character. Guys like him needed in any great story. Like arturo in money heist.
Flochs still a 🐐 btw , and im talking about his character not his ideology for eldia
Arturo that shit is still alive 😭
Dont compare him to arturo, arturo is evil.
Conflict drives plot, Floch is a whole conflict in of itself. So great. Love the tension he brings.
Money Heist? That old movie?
@@SeaTactics couldnt have put it better myself bro keep up the great videos 🐐
Floch charisma is on another level,,, he basically did all the recruitment at the paradise to join and supports the yeagerist/eren.
eren trusted him, he knew floch needed a "devil" and took advantage of that belief
floch basically manages paradis for eren while he's away.
@Jake it's all in promotion bud,gotta do everything lmao
@Jake jokes aside,it happens because they gotta keep cover on zeke,,it's yelena's plan.,and eren.
Eren is the titan god of homeland, Floch is the king
I love floch and I understand why so many people hate him. Still though, I feel like if one of your reasons for hating floch is "NOOOOO U JUST A SIDE CHARACTER, NO ONE ASKED ABOUT UR OPINION ON LEVI'S DECISICION. KNOW YOUR PLACE SIDE CHRACTER. HOW DARE HE GO AGAINST THE MAIN CHARATERS." (I'm specifically talking about the scene when he carries erwin to levi) then thats a pretty dumb reason when there are other legitimate reasons.
This! Its not like there are side characters and main characters in real life either, so thats propably the dumbest argument floch haters could make. So yes his options are as important as the main casts
@@hamlindigoblue9295 People think he's trying to be a main character when all he is doing is keeping his word. Becoming a devil. All he's doing lol. People hate it when side characters grow balls lol
@@coolkid7377 fax ppl always shut their brains off when this happens, these ppl will cheer for his death but some of these dumbasses who hate him for dumb reasons probably don’t understand his character at all to begin with.
@@coolkid7377 This is true, they are just hating floch and supporting Alliance because Alliance consists of Main characters when in fact if they are Paradis citizens in real life they won't even support Alliance.
Isayama worked so incredibly hard to make Floch a villain inorganically because at his core he was a hero.
Floch is relatable, after seeing all his friends die by the hands of a country swearing to wipe them all out as evidenced by all the countries outside the wall uniting with Marley to do one large invasion on a small island. He knew Eren was the trump card to stop his people from meeting the same fate as his comrades.
I’ve always felt like why so many people took erens side with the rumbling was cause they truly felt like the world could not be reasoned with and they would always have a reason to hate eledians and the island for being people that can turn into titans in the end
@@liam6170 tho what about the conqured nations of the anti-marlyans?
Because if you ask me, the got the biggest middle finger in the entire AOT, the enemy of your enemy is your friend? No, the are worse.
if they all knew about yelenas plans, then ok maybe some reasoning for a revenge slaughter, but they all wanted paradise to do well against marlyan imperialism so their nations can also have a chance at that as well. Insted they become malyan hyporacts, even Onyokapon points out the hyporacy of the yeagerist before his exicution
@Elevated Meance no one is truly innocent in all of this their is no clear right and wrong they have all done horrible things well most of them I’m just saying why in opinion I think why so many took Eren side
Yeah also he also saw Erwin's mentality as Eldians' final hope and he noticed Eren shares it.
@@elevatedmeance6807 I mean, we saw in the battle an allied soldier being like, "Don't touch me you devil." So it can be pretty much reasoned that most of the world hated Eldians, even enemies of Marley. Hizuru might have been the only exception.
I think floch just need a hug
Therapy too. Poor guy
He was propably really depressed after being the only survivor, and even in s4 when he was the only survivor again against the cart titan fight. People are ignoring these things but Floch really cares about his comrades despite we dont see him being sad of losing them, but we dont know what he is going through offscreen
What he needs is this 👑
My favorite thing about Floch is he always, and I mean *always*, is concerned for the well being of his comrades. I can't imagine being the only survivor of the charge against Zeke and still subjecting yourself to seeing your friends die while you live. Those lives mean something to him and the moment they die it only strengthens Floch further
You know if Floch would say things in a different tone we would be agreeing with him no questions asked
Yooo I’m so dead 🤣🤣
"Even with the outside threat gone, we can't allow another war to happen on the island. If we don't extinguish all the fires that may ignite another civil war, this hell is just gonna repeat itself. Please Onyankopon, swear loyality to Yeagerists so I can let you go free. I'm sorry about Your homeland, but there was no other choice. Eren's plan was the only way to save the people we love."
Though I'm glad he didn't say anything like that, I love to see Floch larping as a devil.
Factssss😂😂
@@Wasyliyjef tbf, every singe solution in AOT is a short term, rubbing success? Still civil war because not only the anti-marleyians are still around, the cadets that shadis saved will certainly follow his advice about waiting for the right time to rise up. Even excluding the two, facists making a martyr of eren of all people is kinda self-contridicting.
Rumbing 80%? Either the world boimbs Island, or a civil war in paradise, not certain but erwin was right in the fact that humans will fight till one or few remian.
so honestly, Erwin and Kiyomi were both the only ones who have the strongest counterpoints to floch. The cycle of hate wont end, it will just be on an island. And irronicly, even after the eldian empire counqured everyone they turned on themselves, would not be surprised if it turned out the same way
@@elevatedmeance6807 Well, I can't say I disagree. Though my point was similar to the OP's comment, if Foch:
1.Stopped with the Eldian Empire larp
2.Showed that his main motivation is protecting the innocent people of the Paradis
3.Showed deep remorse after doing what's necessary to achieve his goals
In short words if he was speaking and thinking different things, but still taking the same actions, he'd be as likable as our main cast, while having much lower kill count than most of them.
I'm not trying to say that he was or would be in the right. I don't think anyone is at this point.
As one comment said: None of the characters in this show is morally right, yet most of them aren't morally wrong eighter.
I love Flochs character so much because he’s evil but reflects the very real human desire to have something to believe in. That’s why he lost his mind when Erwin wasn’t given the colossal titan. His character is just a vehicle for whatever agenda he believes in and is willing to do anything to achieve it, even at a disgusting price
Really dose show how it doesn’t matter if your eldian or marly or if you have the powers of the devil or god anybody can be a devil
Flock is a character that was embodied by Isiama in order to show the racial intolerance in the story....and he is a wonderful character who does everything for his country
@@gyrozeppeli450 Isayama wanted to say 'Genocide poo 💩' but gave us an important message 'Either kill or get killed'.
@@harshalsharma19 oh the irony. Japan was Nazis in WW2 btw so just imagine the furious outrage it would cause in internet "omg japan nazis again "
Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
Honestly Floch is my second favorite character with only Eren being above him.
He is my favorite too just after the legend Erwin and eren
LMAO fascists the lot of ya. 😂😂
Same
@@Aliballer So, just because he likes Floch’s character, he’s a fascist?
@@mohammedhussain6585 it's a joke bro. I love floch too. He is very facist though.
He's by far my favorite character next to Erwin. When I went on twitter I was SO surprised that everyone hated floch despite everyone being literally him with the same opinion as him back at the ending of season 3. It's actually crazy to me.
90% of twitter AOT fans are mostly ending defenders, and I've seen personally that they only care about their ships and hate Floch and Eren simply cuz, genocide bad when in reality, it's actually more complicated.
Because on twitter only understand genocide is bad, not the fact that it’s be killed or kill, floch understands that if they don’t kill all the outside world they die, which comes true
I mean it's twitter lmao, I bet twitter aot is 90% about ships and 9% about headcanons and 1% about critical discussion that doesn't involve people throwing around ratios
Say what you want about Floch. Can’t change the fact that he is 100% justified.
@Ryan Valinho I don’t care
@Ryan Valinho its either they lay down and die by the world or they take out the world first. They wanted peace but the outside world hates them and weapons were advancing to the point where titans would become obsolete. What else could they do? They really only have two options
@Ryan Valinho so eventually go extinct as a race because everyone wants u wiped out? Thats a horrible plan.
@Ryan Valinho The rest of the world would do the same to Eldia. Eren never wanted genocide but diplomacy was not an option at all.
@Ryan Valinho And that would have stopped Marley and the rest of the world exterminating the people of the Nation of Eldia how?
The world wanted to scapegoat Eldia for all problems including other Eldians. Could you honestly say that you would have laid back and took the death planned for everyone you cared about?
I actually like him. Not justifying his actions or anything. But something about him seems interesting.
@@____Zer0____ tell me you're from reddit without telling me your from reddit
@@____Zer0____ hello my based brother
@@sreenivas6071 it’s ironic because most redditors are siding with the alliance, but nice try
Always the girly anime profiles that can’t stomach true grit
@@Aden_III its always the eren pp that don't understand erens character. Who see him as a murderous king
Man, Eren was such a cool powerhouse, that literally everyone in Paradis flochked to him...
I see what u did there. Nice
Floch gathered Eren's floch, Yeagerists
That's why manga readers call him king floch
I never hated him tbh, altho I understand the hate towards him. I just thought that he's doing the more rational way of thinking as an eldian.
Me too, he's one of my favorite AOT characters.
Floch was always right, delusional ppl refused his message
they are similar to "naive protagonists", ignorant childish beliefs of diplomacy in a "kill or be killed" situation haha
there is only the hunt, the fight
He predicted the ending too. But the selfish alliance warriors praised eren for making them heroes & lived their lives out peacefully while dooming their homeland to destruction. I wonder if any of them had any regret on their deathbeds.
@@evanocity467 well atleast one of the greatest hypocrite(Hange) of the alliance died .She doesn't have any other plan other than Eren's Genocide/Zeke's Eldians Euthanization but she opposed both of them xD.
@@demonslayereren3970 most of those types of people are also the ones who say britian invading america and killing natives for their land is wrong but will provide no other option besides talk no jitsu which almost never works in real time of war and hatred. i.e russia and ukraine have had talks and tried to negotiate for peace and nothing came of it but these people live in a safe bubble reality is often scary to the average human.
@@_whitewizard britain broke lot of treaties with the natives. problem is the british.
russia broke the budapest memorandum. problem is the putin and his goons.
in aot everyone is kinda геtaгded.
I’ll be honest floch was the best part in these boring episodes bout the alliance
absolutely
Floch is just like Soldier Boy, the writers try to get you to hate him but instead he becomes the most honorable person in the show
King Floch, your greatness will not be forgotten
Every time he pronounces Erwin as “Air-win” I can’t help but think of how great a name that would be for a new Jordan shoe lol
It annoys me so much
it's crazy that we can see louise everywhere now that she actually had a role in the plot
bro louise is irrelevant
@@barexexxed6061 Humanity is never irrelevant in AoT...but yeah, she doesn't do big titan squishy squish.
I don’t understand how some people hate floch but love annie, eren, armin. If you hate him then have same energy towards them as well
Im suprised on how much hate he gets, i mean you can dislike him but some people are going way too far over a fictional character
Annie is trash and irrelevant character
Annie swings people like a yoyo and continues to be remorseless. When asked, she said "she'll gladly k*ll eldians again". A psychopath.
Why? What you hate about Armin and Floch is different. For Armin it is his being indecisive and useless thus putting Paradis at risk. For Floch it us something else? I don’t see an inconsistency here.
I like all the characters you mentioned ngl
Love the essay, I think there's a ton to unpack with Floch's character. I would throw two cents in and say replace "demon" with "leader" then you have exactly the formula on why Floch's decision lead him to where he's going to go. Floch was looking for a "leader" to follow that would protect the island and the people. Sure Armin was brilliant but he was never a leader figure. Even when he had the role thrust on to him, he rarely inspired others outside of the core cadets. Through Floch's traumatic experience he knew how important a leader figure was to get people committed. Eren, when he stopped his emotional childish outburst became that figure. An idealized vision of power and change. Based on what we saw, Eren probably rarely talked to the Jagerist which added to that mysterious powerful figure image. This is where Floch's agency comes in as he becomes the mouth piece for the faction. With Eren probably never countermanding Floch's actions and decision, that probably empowered Floch to slowly create his OWN vision of the future. His god leader figure never disagreed with him so there for, he is RIGHT. And that right there is the mixture for a fascist dictator. VISION and a overwhelming sense of SELF RIGHTOUSNESS with little sense for COST or REPERCUSIONS.
facts
Who cares? They need to survive first
at the end of the day it all comes down to "kill or be killed"
no, at the end of the day it comes down to friendship and the little things in life @@demonslayereren3970
Honestly I consider Floch to be one of the bravest and most well written characters in the entire show. Yes he fell apart during the massacre of Shinganshina, but:
-he still had the courage to ride into the jaws of death, on the tiniest hope that his death would give Levi the chance to kill Zeke.
- He calls out the main cast for saving Erwin of Armin.
- finally he has the conviction to do whatever it takes to ensure that his people are never persecuted ever again.
Floch is king.
The thing I truly loved about AoT was that they showed both sides of the conflict and makes you understand both sides of it, by far some of the best story writing ive seen
He went from being scared of death, to then staring it in the face to save his home.
Floch my hero, as a reward, you shall receive my seed.
Never hated Floch. I agree 100% with him. People that disagree with Eren’s decision are delusional of how the real world works.
Dude Eren’s life story is basically a Hitler-Essie life story.
Eren- Hitler
Yegarists- Nazis
Rumbling- Holocaust
Eldia- Germany
Marley- Jews
Fall of Wall Maria- Germany’s defeat in WW1
Marley and other countries leaving Eldia in ruin- Treaty of Versailles
Yeah Marley has fascist parallels as well (both sides do) However it is not a coincidence this story is set in a Germany-like societies and Marley is living in the 30s/40s. And what infamous German in the 30/40s was deemed a threat to the world just like how Eren was deemed the same? Lol
People justify Eren’s actions and takeover here are no different than Nazis or Nazi supporters justifying Hitler’s own actions and takeover. Many Germans had the outlook on Jewish business people leaving them in ruin just like how people see Marley. And Floch is literally the most blatant character to act like a Nazi lol
@@petermj1098 Lmao at this dogshit comparison.
Hitler = Eren
Nazis = Jeagerists
That's just how it is bro. No further elaboration necessary. Surely there isn't a giant difference in ideals and motivations behind their actions, right?
Genocide is not the answer
@@Beyond_That0 Genocide is the only answer. The only thing to decide is which genocide you prefer. Eldian genocide, or non-Eldian genocide? Eren simply picked the genocide that wouldn't cost the lives of his friends and his people.
@@hawkxlr No it is mot the answer, I’ll be dammed first. Armin plan was the way to go.
Dont get me wrong i think he's basically a monster but god is he a well written character
@@____Zer0____ bilieve in god! There is onely one man too save us and that is god! God is needed everyone! Go read quran!
Aren’t they all monsters?
Floch is such a good character and really propels the story. His character just dominates the scenes
he is CARRYING season 4 for me. everyone else is depressed and bland now. they aren’t as interesting as they were in S1-S3
I agree that Floch well-written dude I call Serious cap Floch is not carrying anything dude how is Eren, Reiner, Zeke, Grisha bland characters they have far more depth, development, better portray themes and are far more engaging characters than Floch. The title for this video is literally Canonical nickname for Eren Jaeger
Even GABI BETTER WRITTEN
wdym
Floch isnt the only good character, jean gives off main character vibes tbh
@@johnatello_267 let’s say floch and gabi are carrying s4 p2 after the glorious paths episode and rumbling episode that is the Marley invasion arc
People need to understand that it’s OK to dislike a character and still appreciate the writing.
People need to understand that we like floch
Yeah I can appreciate a good villain because AoT actually makes sense with why characters do the things they do
7:15 there's a mistake. While fighting berthold in his collosal titan form armin had given up his life for the cause, that is something worthy of even erwin himself. Therefore saying armin never had the guts to face the situation is wrong.
Yeah but that was like the only time he actually showed the guts to do something like that, he's still nothing compared to Erwin and that's why he says that, because even him sacrificing himself was not enough to be compared to Erwin
That's for Floch perspective
@@justaplayboywithoutamustac1695 what are u saying lol... Armin never shys away from war... When it comes down to it
@@shivampachauri1200 as I said, he's not comparable to Erwin by any means
Dude! I was like, "Did I hear right?"
Actually before I don't like him but people who didn't like ending able convince me and because of anime Floch its a interested character, i think Him and Jean are actually better leaders than armin ( leadership Wise) but Armin it's still Smarter
Floch it's my top 5 favorite aot characters
Definitely. My man was loyal to the devil till his dying breath.
Floch got that leadership and has that spirit erwin had, especially with those speeches
Yeah he has more resolve than armin. Armin and hange may be smart but politics is not their forte. Floch learned fast and was totally committed to its cause and even if i disagree with him so it’s totally understandable that he would acquire that much following in a few years time after erwin’s death considering floch was new to the whole scene.
Armin pre S4 was my favourite character.
It’s a shame how they massacred my boy.
I personally think aot really does a great job at showing difference between a tactician and a leader
Oh man, in Flock is a legend..and at the end of the manga..everyone admits that Flock is the most realistic person in the story
My favorite video you've ever done man, I love Floch! One of my favorite characters
Wow, thanks! That's a huge compliment. I hope to make better content in the future.
I ain't saying I'd do what Floch did. All I'm saying is, I understand.
#FlockDidNothingWrong
Same, I don’t think he’s doing the right thing, nor that it’s justified. But I understand how and why he’s doing this
@@jakes8971 Hell one of my favorite things about Floch is that he ACKNOWLEDGES that Erens plan is morally reprehensible and unjustifiable but does supports it anyways because he believes (and is likely right) that it is the only way to save his people.
No Angel is coming to save the day in AoT, so all thats left is a Devil that will do the atrocities to save his people and that's what he stakes his life on.
To preserve the meaning of his comrades lives and deaths. To ensure that him miraculously surviving all this time wasn't for nothing.
Meanwhile, alliance keeps pretending they can talk no jutsu peace to literally the entire world that wants to genocide them and they could not rebut alternative ways to save paradis. What a joke.
@@winterlantern5695 Peace was literally never an option
floch was right..
I mean, the dude is basically comparable to a Nazi... I... wouldn't say that.
@@SeaTactics lol so you're one of those throwing out "nazi". cringe
@@SeaTactics If Floch is a Nazi, his enemies outside the walls are also Nazis... So we have Nazis vs Nazis, therefore the Nazis fighting the defensive side of the war are morally in the right. Floch was right..
@@sb17899 Ah yes, flattening the entire world and commuting genocide far past the point that the people you’re attacking are a threat to you. Infamously defensive actions.
@@mr.cup6yearsago211The ending proves Floch was right. The world eventually destroyed Paradis. There was never any compromise or solution that could work besides the complete destruction of one side or the other.
Well, there was no other way to save Paradis than the Rumbling. All the other alternatives were:
1. Die (be genocided) at the hands of Marley
2. Be neutered by Zeke. (while still being attacked by Marley)
Underrated channel man, i watch your brake downs every Sunday. Oh and good vid i agree with everything
Floch is the Guy I would rather have on my side.
The true hero of Eldia
To be honest, I didn't even think about Floch seeing "the second devil" in Eren.
First video of yours I’ve seen in my feed.
Fantastic job.
He’s an extremist I don’t necessarily like him but Floch is a greatly written character I will not deny that
Extremist solutions are needed in extreme situations
@@rinc_1013 but what Eren is doing is not a solution it is global genocide
@@AgeofEmpired He only has two options- kill or get killed.
No other solution than complete rumbling.
I get that what he is doing isn't right. His actions are understandle but not justificable.
Everyone says rumbling is bad and he should have looked for other options but no one has provided he solution other than rumbling.
@@AgeofEmpired Imagine, a person tried to murder you. He failed to do so and police arrived. He is pleading you to let him go. Now will you let him escape or hand him over to the fucking police?
@@harshalsharma19 This is not the case of individuals trying to murder individuals. This is global genocide. What about the people who did nothing wrong, huh? What about the people who are Eldians across the rest of the world, huh?
the jaegerist and eren wants FREEDOM
I like floch, no matter what you say his actions are justified.
I still don't like Floch but as a character he is well written and his arc is necessary in making AOT the epic story that it is. Great vid made me appreciate things about his character I probably didn't give him credit for
Thank you for the compliment!
@@SeaTactics thanks for the great vid!
hating floch but supporting eren. i hope you are not one of that kind
All hail floch
He is like the Mikami to Light Yagami
Yep Floch is obsessed with Eren just as Mikami is obsessed with Light
If you actually compare the recent eps to the suicide charge eps, Floch verbally and is physicallly Erwin's shadow
Exactly, Floch is Erwin's successor
Both of them made a military revolution in order to protect Eren and help him destroy the enemy
The difference now is that enemies are the entirety of Earth's population
@@waffles9733 It was always like that. Anyone outside the walls/island is the enemy.
The story could've been pretty diferent if Erwin was revived. Floch could be likely on his side, and Eren could've likelly worked with him, altrough i don't know if they would plan the whole genocide thing, and if Eren only pretended to be on Erwin's side, it could mean there could be some interesting psychological games of Eren vs Zeke vs Erwin. Such a same the author wasted this opportunity by reviving a character that wasn't even needed in the series anymore.
Wow I can't believe such a small yt can have such good quality. When i tapped on the video I tought u had 1 mil + subs Keep it up!
Wow, thanks! Well, I try my best and I certainly think a big part of that is me producing content for this channel for 10 years now.
Floch in the very little screen time he had to develop, and yet as a SUPPORT character, he has become better than many main characters on other shows with stupidly longer screen time.
I hate him as a person, but as a character he is undeniably well written.
In the last 2 arcs alone he became easily a better written character than mikasa for example
@@hamlindigoblue9295 for sure.
@@hamlindigoblue9295 mikasa is a worst example of character development lmao, she has remained almost static as a character throughout whole show, heck she's actually so damn boring and uninteresting without eren
she has one of the worst character development of all time
@@infamouspotato2028 Exactly!
@@infamouspotato2028 dont really get why she is that popular, a fucking cardboard box has more personality than her
Ngl seatactics ive been watching you ever since 2020 and i gotta say, your videos are literally amazing. Your energy, analysis, and editing is MAD UNDERATED
Perhaps even as underrated as floch himself
“Everyone is a slave to something”
-Kenny Ackerman
cringe
@@milkpeach8091 no
@@milkpeach8091 it’s a good quote, don’t understand how it can even be considered cringe
@@milkpeach8091 says milkpeach, Kenny goated
@@michaelsnyman2800 I’m saying lmao
Great explanation, thank you we needed this.
Floch>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikasa character development lol
Boi I HATE Mikasa as a character
@@getlostinmyeyes3713 she has like no character. Had potential in and after Trost, but was wasted.
Well, Mikasa is a character based in some visual novel story character which Isayama is fan of. It's no wonder she had not much of a character development in the entire story.
Floch is the only character with common sense after the rumbling happened
after that scene of him fighting basically everyone, he easily one of my favourite characters
Made me really think. Great video. Im subbing strictly because this video was so good.
King Floch I kneel. Right about everything and unmonged
Magnificent video bro.
Much appreciated! Glad you enjoyed it
Brilliant video on a brilliant character
On the other hand . We have Annie who was a villain and isn’t a well written character and the fandom and the scouts just forgives her because she’s a female and looks pretty . Annie did the same amount of dirt if not more than Reiner and he’s getting punished while Annie gets rewarded like wtf
For real. Annie is just as bad as Reiner if not worse. At least Reiner feels the pain of what he did. Annie just don't give a damn.
@@Aliballer Annie is worst than Reiner. Reiner wanted to become a hero, she was inside a crystal for four years
Yeah somehow levi is fine with annie who killed his squad...
@@Aliballeryou show the serie ? Reiner litteraly forced Annie to become like her. Annie is 10 x most a good person that Reiner
I think Floch basically tried to become Erwin. I think after he saw Levi (wrongly in his opinion) pass over the chance to revive Erwin, Floch realized the leadership vacuum that he left, and tried to fill it. I think the charge changed him fundamentally, and expelled any selfish motivations for himself, but he strongly recognized how badly the scouts were weakened without Erwin. So he tried to become that leader, and adopted that mindset, but was still a fundamentally different person who went down a different path than Erwin would have.
Yeah, Floch was trying to be someone who could keep a lot people united under a banner that would lead to Paradis survival. He wasn't a logical genius like Erwin, nor a prodigy like Armin, not he had the curiosity of someone like Hange. The thing about Floch is that he was just a human being wanting to believe in a coehent cause, and doing everything he could do to support that cause.
Floch best boy confirmed
Literally my only complaint about Floch is why da fuq did he hesitate to kill yelena? He shot that last guy no problem.
Thank youuuuu!
@@yicasso__3090 no but seriously why would flock hesitate?
For the plot to move forward lol
he wanted to finish his entire speech first i guess lmao
@@alc4528 jean shot the last guy not floch. Also I don't think he hesitated to kill yelena. I think he just wanted to "Save the best for last"
Floch is one of my favorite ones
Great Video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Can’t hate him just like I can’t hate Eren he was the only survivor when the beast titan bombarded them with rocks
I think Floch is the most relatable character, if you went through everything he did and survived then Eren comes along with a solution that would save your people and destroy everyone who wants you dead then you’d do what he did in a heart beat. Let’s be honest we none of us would a Levi or Armin character, we’d all be a Floch character.
Your videos don’t miss !!!
Thank you for the compliment. This one took a little bit more time so I hope it was worth it.
I love him
The way he's written adds a nice vibe of realness to the ending of the story. Eren doing what he's doing is one thing. But then to see someone actually go insane and enjoy killing Marleyans for revenge, and even going into a Dictator sort of mindset when they finally have some power. Really dope to see imo from the writing side of it.
Am I weird for actually liking floch?😂
Hopefully not his morals, but as a character it's 100% okay.
@@SeaTactics yeah nah he’s just a really good character
Floch
I like Floch man, everybody else haters tbh lol
He is that guy, making a change, daring to believe after despair
Not at all! Theres lots of us who love him, even if you dont agree with everything he does hes still an amazingly written character
one of the things I love about floch is something I realised in episode 82 when he had his monologue. it was the episode that made me stop hating him and realise his purpose. before I just saw him as an annoying nobody that came outta nowhere and tried to be important when all he was really doing was being annoying. saw him as more of an attention-seeking lapdog than an idealist one. what I realised after his monologue was that he's actually just a survivalist. and thus he has a perfect dichotomy with eren "freedom fries" jaeger.
floch doesn't REALLY care about freedom. he cares about living. fighting for his life and dying in an honorable way. that's why he states that there's nothing wrong with submission and that it's better than going out swinging for some cause.
on the other hand, eren doesn't care about living as long as his freedom's intact. which makes sense as he doesn't seem to mind much that his life is shortened as a titan shifter.
it's this dynamic of how they both fight for the same goals for fundementally different reasons that made me kinda go "ahhhhhhhh I getchu. floch's kinds okay B)" and realise his purpose in the story and philosophy of attack on titan.
I love to hate Floch. What’s great about him is just how damn smart he is. He’s not a classic evil villain, he’s a very morally grey character who has very valid reasons for doing what he does, even if it’s very extreme. It’s very interesting to have a antagonist that knows exactly how the survey corps works, because he’s very savvy when it comes to their plans.
Erwin was such an amazing character. The depth to him is incredibly written
We call him King Floch for a reason
When Floch started dropping barrels on citizens I knew I was about to enjoy a new character persona being created.
Amazing video! I appreciate Floch’s character a lot, one of the most realistic character in AOT
The fact that you hate a fictional character's guts just shows that they're a well written character.
Didn’t think people would actually hate him
Great explanation of Floch.... he truly is more complex than he is given ccredit for.
The only charater who remembers past events
The best character without question, especially as of chapter 139. Destroying the world is good.
This man speaking facts !!
Floch has been and will always be Goated
Floch best only respect for this king