Yep, those devoted rooms can get downright hairy. The first time I ever tried an abyssal deadspace, I was barely three days old and had just bought myself a Rupture. I thought the abyss looked cool, so I decided to take it into a t0 electrical. Unfortunately, I had terrible skills and didn't have any idea what I was doing. The first room I entered had a Skybreaker. I was completely unprepared and got utterly destroyed XD I was crushed and under the impression that Abyssals were just way too hard for me. I didn't find the nerve to try again for weeks! XD I look forward to the Vagabond video, and would love to see a Cynabal video. It was one of my favorite ships in EE, but can't really figure out what to do with it in EO.
Not sure if you mentioned it in the video, but in the fitting you mention using EMP rounds, but I would swear that in the Abyssal Combat demo you are using Phased Plasma (Thermal damage). Of course when you check the resists of the Sansha rat then thermal is its lowest armour resist anyway as it happens, and you are pretty much through the shields by than point anyway. On the whole, great video as always. Looking to learn how to run abyssal stuff and your videos are helpful. Moving to calm so I can learn tactics and rats, but dont want an expensive fit so this looks ideal. Its not about running T0 to make more isk at this point, its about learning what I'm doing so I can move up to higher Abyssal Deadspace. Keep up the good work!
14:22 I've always been amazed in Echoes by how many people never realized it gave a passive penalty. It was one of the reasons I main afterburners, I liked ships like the Stabber, Rupture, Thrasher, Typhoon, and of course the Hurricane and i always found the MWD fits of those so cap unstable you'll cap out just from a hardener. I admit, the Stabber is notorious for its horrible capacitor but thats a trait akin to a lot of Minmatar ships. Terrible capacity, excellent recharge though.
It tickles me I'm not the only one that looks at the Rupture and gets Galleon vibes. Specifically it looks like the upper stern deck, where the wheel and captains quarters would be. Even the engine thrusters look like some of the decoration you'd see a galleon wearing.
Yup, it's literally got a stern, poop deck, and full broadside magazines with cannon hatches! And yes, the thrusters are very reminiscent of whipstaff ornamentations, similar to ships like the Mary Rose!
Somebody is getting the kick back on the 1m skill points. Might as well be the guy who has helped me relearn how to play the game. Sorry that I didn't give you my reup I didn't know that it was a req thing when somebody dropped the link in game.
I really like the look of the Rupture, i also like the omen which i know is not your thing but we agree on autocannons for sure. Just the idea if them. Its an expanse thing to me somewhat, and BSG remake, the autocannons in both those shows were awesome. Anyway i trained into Arty because I was flying a thrasher but its no big deak to train up autocannons.
I still have to recover my loss from picking up a random fit for the Rupture in T1 abyss. The only thing I'm thankful for is I managed to save a couple million ISK by using the tier down in guns and not stocking up a ton in faction ammo. The failure was survivability, as it used passive shields and I couldn't sit around waiting for the shields to recharge. Killing things was also dreadfully slow with the 420mm guns, the battleships I was afraid of never showed up and I kept struggling against frigates and destroyers.
On a ship with a raised prow and stern deck section, you have a forecastle and a castle at the stern. On a ship without a prow forecastle, the stern one becomes the forecastle. Also where the poop deck is. At least, that's how I was told when working on the Golden Hind.
I purely run T6s and i grab the nodes with an MTU dropped on the gate and it adds minimal sometimes no extra time to my sites. If they're too far away I leave them. Some T6s one room can have an extra 40+ mil from just the nodes in each room. just today I had one node drop 17 mil. I did have a 6b drop also last week. sold as well. :D
newbro here, I was thinking about the MTU but didn't know if it was possible/good idea, should I try? Because right now my thrasher clears faster than my Rupture so there are no incentive isk related to use it instead of the destroyer
@@captainbenzie can't I just use the drones to destroy those far away then pull with the mtu? otherwise what is the point of runing the calm ones with the trasher? The ammo is expensive and you waste more because autocannon instead of arty, it's slower to finish but the payout is the same. I mean maybe some different blueprints but since I'm a newbro I don't have enough skills to make it profitable... I'm in a pickle...
@@kr4ftt depends what you're running and in which Abyssals. Cost of filaments is why I steer clear of Electrics as they tend to be expensive. I'm merely showing things that newer players can do, it's up to you to figure the most profitable for you. The point with Extraction Nodes is that they take time to loot. MTU can help with that if you have a ship that can shoot them quickly. If you don't, it's often better to run multiple Cache only runs than a single slow full loot run.
The Broadsword is an interdiction ship, it has very little combat punch, so is not great for PvE at all. It does feature in my wormhole rolling video, however.
Uzi? Hair dryer? Black and Decker, mate. 😂 I wonder how far up the abyssal chain one could go in a Ruppy? I lost a Vexor in a T2 to a Marshal in about a minute this morning, and I knew it was going to happen. Do you think a Ruppy could do T2s?
So, i loved this video but there was one thing i have yet to figure out. When can you activate the filaments? Can you just go in from any location in space or do you have to got to a certain point? This is the only bit i have no clue on for sure and i havent had a chance to tey it yet.
@@captainbenzie Not anywhere. There are limitations. Not within 1000 meters from a station, and higher tier filaments can't be activated above certain security level system.
Allow me to rephrase, what skills do we need to survive the deadspace with average/suboptimal gameplay, e.g. the T0 Corax build that I run needs 120 dps from skills to overcome the pacifier
I'm struggeling with the prioritera of the npc to attack and which to keep long distance from and which to orbit , trying t2 now in caracal but I die like every third abyss 😅
@@JonTaRW84 there are a few new NPCs and you'll start getting a lot more of them pet room (a Calm Triglavian room can easily have two or three Damaviks with a Kikimora, whereas in a Tranquil it's always on Dama only). Be warned that the jump in difficulty is notable.
@captainbenzie ok, I'm gonna try to learn from the Wiki which order to kill em and learning the names they have (EWAR abilities). Really like your videos! You and AceFace for abyssals! 🙂👍
@@captainbenzie thank you. I'm a new player, only 2 weeks in, so I ask a lot of basic questions, not questioning your choices. Thank you for confirming my hunch.
Long time Patreon supporter. 11 minutes into a 27 minute video before you get to actual "content"?!? Honest feedback, that seems a little excessive. I get you need/want to do the intro stuff but that whole section describing abyssals seems unnecessary/repetitive. Just link your other videos regarding abyssals and move on. That being said I loved the rupture in EE, even more so the guardian versions. Tring to reproduce some of that gameplay in EO with logistics cruisers.
I've always tried to be as concise as I can. I'd rather try and keep everything in one place in case it's the first video someone is watching, I want to give them all they need. I do aim to put timestamps in the description to allow you to skip to relevant information if you know the stuff I'm discussing.
i wouldnt recommend cruiser to do anything below t3, even as a alpha its not worth it, you can do anything under t3 in a destroyer or frigate which can yield you way more isk, cruiser in t1 gives same money as frigate in t0 but slower as ship is also slower, better off doing something else with a t1 cruiser rather than doing abyss
It might also just simply be that different dialects pronounce things differently. I really cannot believe the sheer upset caused by how I pronounce this word 😂
@@captainbenzie Hehehe, I have to admit to love spinning up brits on voice coms by correcting them without mercy. Some really get mad about it. It's all fun and games. It we can't talk some shit to each other, how are we even friends?
Funny how people pronounce the same things differently and then insist their pronounciation is the only right way to say it...comments nowadays do my head in......in Germany we say it like cush °!°
Exactly! We have different accents, different dialects. The purpose of language is to communicate, so if they understood me, then it worked 😅 some people just get bent out of shape on the dumbest stuff!
Yep, those devoted rooms can get downright hairy.
The first time I ever tried an abyssal deadspace, I was barely three days old and had just bought myself a Rupture. I thought the abyss looked cool, so I decided to take it into a t0 electrical. Unfortunately, I had terrible skills and didn't have any idea what I was doing. The first room I entered had a Skybreaker. I was completely unprepared and got utterly destroyed XD I was crushed and under the impression that Abyssals were just way too hard for me. I didn't find the nerve to try again for weeks! XD
I look forward to the Vagabond video, and would love to see a Cynabal video. It was one of my favorite ships in EE, but can't really figure out what to do with it in EO.
Awesome story! Abyssals can be scary but I'm glad you gave it a second attempt!
Not sure if you mentioned it in the video, but in the fitting you mention using EMP rounds, but I would swear that in the Abyssal Combat demo you are using Phased Plasma (Thermal damage). Of course when you check the resists of the Sansha rat then thermal is its lowest armour resist anyway as it happens, and you are pretty much through the shields by than point anyway. On the whole, great video as always. Looking to learn how to run abyssal stuff and your videos are helpful. Moving to calm so I can learn tactics and rats, but dont want an expensive fit so this looks ideal. Its not about running T0 to make more isk at this point, its about learning what I'm doing so I can move up to higher Abyssal Deadspace. Keep up the good work!
Yes, I'd accidentally loaded Phased Plasma at that point but it should pretty much be EM. It's a cheap fit and a great way to learn - good luck!!
14:22 I've always been amazed in Echoes by how many people never realized it gave a passive penalty. It was one of the reasons I main afterburners, I liked ships like the Stabber, Rupture, Thrasher, Typhoon, and of course the Hurricane and i always found the MWD fits of those so cap unstable you'll cap out just from a hardener. I admit, the Stabber is notorious for its horrible capacitor but thats a trait akin to a lot of Minmatar ships. Terrible capacity, excellent recharge though.
Yup, it's not very well explained and a lot of folks miss it. Sadly, in Echoes, recharge on ALL capacitors is constant.
You were stressing me out leaving your large shield booster overheated at the end there lol.
Yeah I'm bad at that 😅
It’s a beautiful ship for sure. Love it really much ❤
Glad you enjoy!!
My first cruiser. Been forever ago. God i thought it was expensive back then lol! 5mil!!!
I've tried this yesterday and got triglavian/drifter battleships who were keeping me at 40km range, barely finished it in time.
Yeah, as I said, it works, but there are better options
It tickles me I'm not the only one that looks at the Rupture and gets Galleon vibes. Specifically it looks like the upper stern deck, where the wheel and captains quarters would be. Even the engine thrusters look like some of the decoration you'd see a galleon wearing.
Yup, it's literally got a stern, poop deck, and full broadside magazines with cannon hatches!
And yes, the thrusters are very reminiscent of whipstaff ornamentations, similar to ships like the Mary Rose!
Somebody is getting the kick back on the 1m skill points. Might as well be the guy who has helped me relearn how to play the game. Sorry that I didn't give you my reup I didn't know that it was a req thing when somebody dropped the link in game.
No worries!!
I really like the look of the Rupture, i also like the omen which i know is not your thing but we agree on autocannons for sure. Just the idea if them. Its an expanse thing to me somewhat, and BSG remake, the autocannons in both those shows were awesome. Anyway i trained into Arty because I was flying a thrasher but its no big deak to train up autocannons.
I still have to recover my loss from picking up a random fit for the Rupture in T1 abyss. The only thing I'm thankful for is I managed to save a couple million ISK by using the tier down in guns and not stocking up a ton in faction ammo. The failure was survivability, as it used passive shields and I couldn't sit around waiting for the shields to recharge. Killing things was also dreadfully slow with the 420mm guns, the battleships I was afraid of never showed up and I kept struggling against frigates and destroyers.
Foc'sle is at the front (forecastle). You refer to the stern.
On a ship with a raised prow and stern deck section, you have a forecastle and a castle at the stern. On a ship without a prow forecastle, the stern one becomes the forecastle. Also where the poop deck is.
At least, that's how I was told when working on the Golden Hind.
@@captainbenzie then that would be the aft castle or stern castle.
I purely run T6s and i grab the nodes with an MTU dropped on the gate and it adds minimal sometimes no extra time to my sites. If they're too far away I leave them. Some T6s one room can have an extra 40+ mil from just the nodes in each room. just today I had one node drop 17 mil. I did have a 6b drop also last week. sold as well. :D
Nice!
newbro here, I was thinking about the MTU but didn't know if it was possible/good idea, should I try? Because right now my thrasher clears faster than my Rupture so there are no incentive isk related to use it instead of the destroyer
@@kr4ftt no need in lower tiers since you're not grabbing Extraction Nodes
@@captainbenzie can't I just use the drones to destroy those far away then pull with the mtu? otherwise what is the point of runing the calm ones with the trasher? The ammo is expensive and you waste more because autocannon instead of arty, it's slower to finish but the payout is the same. I mean maybe some different blueprints but since I'm a newbro I don't have enough skills to make it profitable... I'm in a pickle...
@@kr4ftt depends what you're running and in which Abyssals. Cost of filaments is why I steer clear of Electrics as they tend to be expensive. I'm merely showing things that newer players can do, it's up to you to figure the most profitable for you.
The point with Extraction Nodes is that they take time to loot. MTU can help with that if you have a ship that can shoot them quickly. If you don't, it's often better to run multiple Cache only runs than a single slow full loot run.
Captain Benzie do you have content for broadsword?
The Broadsword is an interdiction ship, it has very little combat punch, so is not great for PvE at all. It does feature in my wormhole rolling video, however.
24:35 *BRING REPAIR PASTE!!!* 50 units!! i forgot it once and burned my weapons out. 1 enemy before exit
love you videos
Thank you!
Uzi? Hair dryer? Black and Decker, mate. 😂 I wonder how far up the abyssal chain one could go in a Ruppy? I lost a Vexor in a T2 to a Marshal in about a minute this morning, and I knew it was going to happen. Do you think a Ruppy could do T2s?
Hmm, it's a big jump from T1 to T2. Might be possible with the right fit and implants but...
you should do a vid on your marshal!
Gotta get it built first!
If u have enough skills u can upgrade guns to 220mm Vulcan II and Hail M to almost 500 dps.
Yup. Just following the Alpha Friendly for suggested by CCP
So, i loved this video but there was one thing i have yet to figure out. When can you activate the filaments? Can you just go in from any location in space or do you have to got to a certain point? This is the only bit i have no clue on for sure and i havent had a chance to tey it yet.
Anywhere. I recommend setting up a safe bookmark though.
@@captainbenzie Not anywhere. There are limitations. Not within 1000 meters from a station, and higher tier filaments can't be activated above certain security level system.
It has traditionally been called the Nail gun :) industrial, dangerous, but nothing cool and sleek about it :) Just a mention.
I think it looks like a galleon
I tried this fit and there was an Emberneedle Tesella that I just couldn't hit - timer ran out and game over. My drones were all dead by that point
You have to slingshot some enemies, or use manual piloting to get the angles.
Allow me to rephrase, what skills do we need to survive the deadspace with average/suboptimal gameplay,
e.g. the T0 Corax build that I run needs 120 dps from skills to overcome the pacifier
I'm struggeling with the prioritera of the npc to attack and which to keep long distance from and which to orbit , trying t2 now in caracal but I die like every third abyss 😅
Keep at it, you'll get there!!
@@captainbenzie btw, is the same tactics in Calm abyss as the harder ones and same npc?
@@JonTaRW84 there are a few new NPCs and you'll start getting a lot more of them pet room (a Calm Triglavian room can easily have two or three Damaviks with a Kikimora, whereas in a Tranquil it's always on Dama only). Be warned that the jump in difficulty is notable.
@captainbenzie ok, I'm gonna try to learn from the Wiki which order to kill em and learning the names they have (EWAR abilities).
Really like your videos! You and AceFace for abyssals! 🙂👍
Hey, question, you went for a multispectrum shield hardener, why not specifically EM for this particular weather?
This is just the fit that CCP recommends. The purpose of the video is simply to test that fit. Yes, an EM is probably better.
@@captainbenzie thank you. I'm a new player, only 2 weeks in, so I ask a lot of basic questions, not questioning your choices. Thank you for confirming my hunch.
@@vedranb87 no worries - always question! Sometimes I can come off a little direct in my responses, but that's just the autism. Happy to help!
@@captainbenzienot a problem. I prefer direct. :)
Thank you for taking time to answer. :)
lol "caish!" it's "Cash-ey" :))
As if to prove the point, plenty of comments here and people I know irl say "kash"
Cachet is pronounced 'cash-ey'. it's a different word. Cache is 'cash' or 'kaish' (if you're a goddamn heathen)
Long time Patreon supporter. 11 minutes into a 27 minute video before you get to actual "content"?!? Honest feedback, that seems a little excessive. I get you need/want to do the intro stuff but that whole section describing abyssals seems unnecessary/repetitive. Just link your other videos regarding abyssals and move on.
That being said I loved the rupture in EE, even more so the guardian versions. Tring to reproduce some of that gameplay in EO with logistics cruisers.
I've always tried to be as concise as I can. I'd rather try and keep everything in one place in case it's the first video someone is watching, I want to give them all they need. I do aim to put timestamps in the description to allow you to skip to relevant information if you know the stuff I'm discussing.
Cannons
Autocannons
On a cruiser
Give that thing to me! :D
😬
i wouldnt recommend cruiser to do anything below t3, even as a alpha its not worth it, you can do anything under t3 in a destroyer or frigate which can yield you way more isk, cruiser in t1 gives same money as frigate in t0 but slower as ship is also slower, better off doing something else with a t1 cruiser rather than doing abyss
Again it's about flying what people have or what they find fun
You never shared the isk #s from the abyssal itself. Only saw you grab 400k in the video.
took my wolf to a t1 and im clearing them in 7 min avg. did T2 and died in less than 1 minute lol
Yeah, often not worth the risk going up. Even if you DID those T2s, the extra ISK isn't worth the longer clear times
It's produced "C a SH" not kashe. I'm sorry you were lied to.
It might also just simply be that different dialects pronounce things differently. I really cannot believe the sheer upset caused by how I pronounce this word 😂
@@captainbenzie Hehehe, I have to admit to love spinning up brits on voice coms by correcting them without mercy. Some really get mad about it. It's all fun and games. It we can't talk some shit to each other, how are we even friends?
@@xxxlonewolf49 haha exactly 😅
15 million is not cheap for new players
Yes, it really is. I've got videos showing you have you can make 50m ISK an hour on Day One.
Funny how people pronounce the same things differently and then insist their pronounciation is the only right way to say it...comments nowadays do my head in......in Germany we say it like cush °!°
Exactly! We have different accents, different dialects. The purpose of language is to communicate, so if they understood me, then it worked 😅 some people just get bent out of shape on the dumbest stuff!
I think it looks like a nail gun..! Lmao ..!
Yeah that too!
actually I believe your pronunciation correct
I think it's just an accent thing 😅
You mean quiche? Yep.