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  • These are the tools we use every day in the workshop. Not sponsored, not linked, just straight up a look at the tools we recommend.
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    Wera Torque Wrench
    Wera HexPlus set
    Wear Cycling sets
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  • @michaelb9664
    @michaelb9664 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Another Wera advocate here.
    I’m an industrial electrician and own many Wera and Knipex tools for my profession. It was a natural progression for me as I started cycling and working on my own bikes that I also started buying more Wera and Knipex to fill my garage with 😄
    Big fan of the Wera brand, very good quality and highly functional.
    For anyone reading this I can also recommend Beta 951 sliding T handles for bicycle use as another good supplement tool.

  • @GNX157
    @GNX157 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Just remember when you’re adjusting Shimano di2 limits screws, that the derailleur shouldn’t be resting on the limit screw like it would with mechanical. Once your indexing is done and you set the limits screws, Shimano specifies a small clearance between the upper or lower limit screw and the derailleur body. If there is contact, it could put undue strain on the stepper motor and or excessive battery drain etc.

  • @stephenconnor1274
    @stephenconnor1274 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Worth a mention when using torque wrench from any brand especially in a home workshop environment where the tool may not be re-used for an extended period of time. The torque wrench must be returned to zero torque setting as storing the torque wrench with tension wound on the springs weaken the springs and skew the calibration. Obviously only applies to the mechanical / spring type wrenches.
    Also never loosen bolts with a torque wrench unless the torque wrench has a specific clock-wise and anti-clockwise setting which are normally used for applications where a bolt is reversed (left-hand) threaded.

  • @jolly_raider
    @jolly_raider ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wera, Knipex, Hazet and Hilti never disapoint

  • @paulkilleen3526
    @paulkilleen3526 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wera the best allen key set i have ever used now as a sparkie trying there insulated screwdrivers love the handles just fits my hand just right which is a big plus for all day use. the handles remind me of my very old and lost mini max sets

  • @seanroe3927
    @seanroe3927 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wera Hex and Torx key user here. Beautiful in use. Grip better even than really good Park T Machined ones. That odd shape at the end of the key really does work!

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The magic hex keys

  • @terjemyller6573
    @terjemyller6573 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always bring that 2-8mm+10/25tx-pouch with me on bike holidays. Great stuff!

    • @sabamacx
      @sabamacx ปีที่แล้ว

      That set is a bit heavy for bike touring, aren't they?

    • @terjemyller6573
      @terjemyller6573 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sabamacx too heavy to have in the pocket for sure, but great to have at base camp

  • @bill8791
    @bill8791 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have the Wera bike tools set 3 and an additional T handle from them and aside from a few larger hex wrenches for leverage and a torque wrench it's replaced most of a tool box just for my bike. Really nice quality stuff.

  • @honestmcgyver
    @honestmcgyver ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wholeheartedly endorse this . I have the hex plus Allen keys - such quality and useful for DIY as well as bike. The mini socket sets are great too. I Will look into some of the other bits you showed too such as the torx keys. I have halford t25 ‘screwdrivers’ and agree those sort of tools are great for fine adjustment. Halfords pro gear is good value and lifetime warranty. A very good plumber who’s a mate put me onto wera a few years back and I also saw the hex plus keys being used by Pro world tour team mechanics a few years back.

  • @tkrzysiek
    @tkrzysiek ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol i have 1 Hex plus set rondomly bought after some problems with stripped bolts🙂 nice to see that I made a good choice 🙂

  • @AG17_1
    @AG17_1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wera hex plus sets are the best I've used. I have them as L-hex sets, short, medium and long 1/4 screwdriver bits.
    I do have 2, 2.5 and 3mm hex screwdrivers from PB swiss. Not cheap but feel so nice to use.
    The wera 844/7 tap bit set is brilliant for quickly chasing waterbottle bolt threads, derailleur barrel adjust threads etc.
    That zyklop mini 1 ratchet, in the bike kit, is fabulous for acessing bolts with restricted access, e.g. road rear brake calipers. A tool I use everyday

  • @RBlakemore
    @RBlakemore ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Used Wera for a long time as an Engineer. Only problem with the hex keys is the coloured nylon sleeve works it way loose after a while and gets annoying, their stainless steel ones are much better!

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, this is true. Superglue works.

  • @DeanPattrick
    @DeanPattrick ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the brand, I started using these screw drivers many years ago and then crossed over to the Allen and torque sets.

  • @sabamacx
    @sabamacx ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My (bicycle) Wera torque wrench arrived calibrated to within 0.12% of spec. It gets used for slow joyful assembly.

  • @richardhaselwood9478
    @richardhaselwood9478 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I *don't* need anymore nice hex keys, but I'm very tempted by a decent set of the 1/4" bits. I've been using small ratchets quite a lot lately on the bike, as they are really useful, and having a nice set of the bits would be awesome.

  • @bantolphbantir9605
    @bantolphbantir9605 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For my general shop tools I find the Wera tools awesome, especially the socket drivers. The 1/2 socket wrench is just perfect. I also use the short T-Handle and Screwdriver bit set a ton. I've also got a lot of really quality Wiha stuff. I use an extended magnetic T-Handle äfrom them really frequently. If it grips or cuts its Knipex or Wiha.

  • @ivimas_
    @ivimas_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice to see they have a bicycle specific set available. I'd like to add though, even the more reputable brands seem to have very inexpensive, good quality basic tools and sets available. These are perfectly adequate for most home mechanics, so you can save your money for the more expensive bike or brand specific tools that you can't live without.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheap tool on expensive parts. Makes me 🫣

  • @Countrystock
    @Countrystock ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My dad has been using Wera Tools for year's in the agricultural industry and now I use them on my bike. Can't beat them 👍🏻

    • @DirkSachse
      @DirkSachse ปีที่แล้ว

      Try PB Swiss Tools and you will you toss your Weras in the trash. It is unbelievable to see that you can still improve something like this.

    • @Hexsense
      @Hexsense ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DirkSachse Not on hex key though. PB Swiss use conventional hex design while Wera use Hex plus shape head.
      It's seriously cool to see a bolt that is already rounded by another normal hex key still can be turned when I use hex plus key instead.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have to say I did, and they rounded off real quick. Just didn’t stand up to daily use.

    • @DirkSachse
      @DirkSachse ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Mapdec Wera considers their bits consumables and PBS not. PBS gives lifetime warranty on most of their stuff. I m not sure if you can wear them out on bike parts. Would be interesting to see if they honor their warranty.

  • @Hexsense
    @Hexsense ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A minor warning about Wera Hex Plus L keys. The hex key only maintain its shape for like 1 centimeter then it flare out to be a bigger diameter shaft.
    Rockshox Sid Ultimate lower leg service require you to use 5mm hex key to punch the lower out from upper. It assumed you have 5mm hex key that is consistently 5mm.
    If you knock it with 5mm Wera Hex Plus L keys. You'll deform the (Charger Race Day) damper thread shaft. So.. I still need non-Wera 5mm key for these edge case incompatibility.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Use a RS bash bolt for this.

  • @Bear-Jew
    @Bear-Jew ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to add that the Wera Allan/hex keys profile allowed me often to remove/unscrew bolts that are "too rounded" for the standard hex key.

  • @CtrlAltID
    @CtrlAltID 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of my Wera hex-set wrenches wandered away. I tried to find a replacement, but at least in the US, it is tough to buy just one wrench. Replacing pieces is essential and where a better distribution network shines.

  • @wufler28
    @wufler28 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wanted the wera hex set, but instead bought a look a like from Amazon. The other day I was attaching a derailleur hanger on a new frame and rounded out the head on the special bolt that I only can get from buying a new hanger. FFS. Never buying crappy tools again. The zyklop ratchet is also on my wishlist.

  • @Bear-Jew
    @Bear-Jew ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Using mostly the Wera tools for a long time now. I am a CNC engineer and over many years haven't seen any better brand. Wera isn't cheap, but well worth it. The Wera torque wrench shown in this video comes with the calibration certificate, unlike many other, cheaper ones. I can say from experience that most chap torque wrenches are under-torquing. Wera is really accurate.

  • @JFomo
    @JFomo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've always wanted Wera tools but could never justify the price point, however now that I've taken up cycling, it would be a good excuse to buy a few bits.

  • @Simbostyle
    @Simbostyle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been using the Wira Allen keys and screw drivers for over 15 years at work. The steel is much harder than most others so the ends stay nice and sharp which doesn't round out screw heads as much. Bacho also make some decent small ratchets.

    • @mighnmagic9430
      @mighnmagic9430 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      using cheap allen keys for 20+ and still no problem

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never heard of Wera... looks pretty good!

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว

      Magic hex

  • @rcg9573
    @rcg9573 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I started using WERA tools about 2 years ago after a friend recommended them when he knew I was upgrading my home bicycle tool set. I would never go back to Park Tool unless it was for a cycling specific tool that someone like Wera just does not make. I even have the Wera mini ratcheting wrench set (Bicycle Set #1 that you showed) and bits in their pouch that I carry on my rides. The Wera quality in my opinion is even better than some of the PB Swiss stuff I have.

  • @abbreviateTome
    @abbreviateTome 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hi, excellent review. what's the difference between the Wera Torque wrench A6 ( that you have) and the A5 that is being marketed as a torque wrench specifically for Bicycles?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As far as I know, just the bits it comes with

  • @themoodyteam
    @themoodyteam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could do a short of the ‘few weird things in there’ 🤨

  • @mariopejovic
    @mariopejovic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Recently I ordered set of Wera Hex plus L keys. I wanted to upgrade my set of generic Hex's, so got to treat my self. Only downside is that's hard to find Wera in my country. Any experience with Unior?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. We use Unior a fair bit. Our electric stands. Cone spanner, chain tools etc.

  • @cecilecorpuz5735
    @cecilecorpuz5735 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll use mostly Beta tools for my basic tooling, open ends box end screw drivers nut drivers in both straight and T-handles, sockets, pliers, files T-Handles hex / allen keys in both straight and ball drivers and so on, other tooling that I will also use VAR, HOZAN, TACX, CYCLUS and a lot of other specialty tooling as well for the servicing of Vintage bicycles and I'll have a a few pieces of Park tooling. Most of my Beta tooling are mostly in trays within Beta double stack Roll aways, only the top drawer of the lower stack will be with tooling the other 10 drawers will be for storage for the smattering of bicycle spares I'll have 5 double stacks with Beta tooling and I'll also have a Beta SUPER TANK. So to say I am well tooled to take on most any job. An EX National wrench for the Dutch Olympic mountain bike team was watching me repair a stripped BB of which was being retooled to ITALIAN thread, he looked at me and said, your not doing what I think you are doing and I said yes I am doing just what you see that I am doing and it's happening right right now, he then replied I don't think any other shop here in the Netherlands that would do what you are doing, this job was performed with HOZAN tooling. Wera tooling I will not have a single piece.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok. Have you tried their hex keys? Amazing

  • @n22pdf
    @n22pdf ปีที่แล้ว

    I use Wera tools excellent 😊😃🚴🏻❤️

  • @BloodyClash
    @BloodyClash 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is there a huge difference to proxxon tools ? and what about the 40nm side ?

  • @daviddjerassi
    @daviddjerassi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A question for you please a young person starting racing which medium priced wheel set would you recommend can i wish you and your team a very happy Christmas Thank you

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว

      Fulcrum Racing 5. They are going to crash and break things so it’s easy to fix by any shop, strong, stiff to accelerate well too.

    • @daviddjerassi
      @daviddjerassi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mapdec Thank you we very much i appreciate your help.

  • @a8f235
    @a8f235 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My gripe is with the L-keys because the rubber sleeve get damage so quickly and easily. The color coding itself is an ok idea, but these L-keys must be handled with gentle care or they will get scuffed up in no time at all. Wish they changed this at some point.
    I also hope to see a P-handle hex plus with bolt holder on the tips so you can easily do one handed stuff like holding a handlebar in one hand, and the tool with bolt attached to attach the otuside of the stem to clamp it all down. It is important though that the P-handle is slightly on the smaller side like you see on Unior hex tools, because it will get more use on a bicycle if that is the case.
    In that regard I have a gripe with Shimano on their lower caliper bolts, where you cannot use P-handle hex keys because they have dropped the bolt too far in so you'll just hit the caliper body. So, Shimano fix this because I hate ballhead. 😏

  • @MTBstuart
    @MTBstuart ปีที่แล้ว +1

    look into the "feedback sports range torque wrench" for those little jobs its a small little ratchet driver that displays torque from 2nm to10nm, my only complaint is you need to check you haven't spun the dial or it will be inaccurate but its a fantastic little tool despite that. love wera though and I use them day to day (carpenter/builder)

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Stuart

    • @MTBstuart
      @MTBstuart ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mapdec your welcome, thanks for the good content 👍 I only came across your channel today but I'm a new subscriber and think the content is great even if it is leans a towards road bikes.
      The feedback isn't the cheapest but it will probably replace all the other torque wrenches except for using a bigger one for stuff over 10nm and although you have to check the dial you don't adjust it to a set torque you go by looking at the dial

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MTBstuart MTB to road comes in waves. It might be a bit roadie right now.

  • @davidburgess741
    @davidburgess741 ปีที่แล้ว

    With loose ball hubs, I've never owned a satisfactory cone wrench. On track hubs I've ruined sealed bearings because the preload locknuts slipped when tightening the axle nuts. The cone wrench either cracks where they flare out to two different sizes or rounds off the wrench flats. Is there a good brand?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We use Unior because they are stiff, Pedros are also very good. The Park ones you sometimes see in the background of vids are just old ones for show. They are too soft and flexible.

  • @bignormz
    @bignormz ปีที่แล้ว

    Does IceToolz make a bb tool for the Wheels mfg bb’s? Or is there an alternate one u recommend as the wheels mfg socket is $110 Aud

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m not sure actually. We actually just use the flat wrench for wheels mfg. don’t really use them often enough.

  • @madzonic16
    @madzonic16 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only thing that is stopping me from getting their torque wrench is if I need to send it back for recalibration. My country is not listed for service and won't be available to mail back for recalibration, and that sucks.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว

      That does suck. Shipping could cost more than the service.

  • @nightyas
    @nightyas ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you know when your Torq wrench needs calibration?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว

      About once a year. We set up a little rig now and then and check. For home use most wrenches will last 2-3 years.

  • @GNX157
    @GNX157 ปีที่แล้ว

    What brand do you use for the 11mm (7/16), 12mm, and 14mm hex Allen keys you need to remove some free hubs?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว

      12 an 14 is quite easy. That damm 11 and 15 though. Found some 1/2 drive version online somewhere.

    • @paulsymons562
      @paulsymons562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My previous comments with Amazon links seem to have gone. Facom do an 11 and a 15mm hex key both available on Amazon. You can hold them in a vice and use the wheel for leverage.
      If you want a socket for use with torque wrench etc, then buy the normal key, cut the short leg off with a cutting disc and then put the cut end in an appropriate sized normal socket and hey presto, a hex socket! If you are really devoted I guess you could silver solder or braze the key in place to make it permanent.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulsymons562 strange. I didn’t remove them.

    • @paulsymons562
      @paulsymons562 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mapdec I suspect it might have been because they had Amazon links it them. Most odd.
      Amazing content recently, keep up the good work :-)

  • @manueldeubler1127
    @manueldeubler1127 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know a tool is good when you have 3 of them. That's all I say about that mini bit ratchet.

  • @shannonparker7404
    @shannonparker7404 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave Rome to the courtesy phone…. Lol 😂

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh no. I don’t get the joke.

    • @shannonparker7404
      @shannonparker7404 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mapdec Apologies! Dave Rome is an Australian Journalist/Bike Mechanic who specializes in reviews of bicycle specific tools etc. Quite obsessive about it in a good way. Love your work, these past couple of weeks have been informative and entertaining.

  • @trekkeruss
    @trekkeruss ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TH-cam channel Project Farm tests a lot of tools, and recommends Wera hex keys for durability, but according to his tests, Wiha hex keys have a more accurate fit.On that note, I prefer Wiha's screwdrivers compared to Wera. I also like Vessel for their JIS screwdrivers.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally Vesse for JIS

    • @Hexsense
      @Hexsense ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have both.
      Wiha is a more precise fit which will preserve new bolt head better.
      But Wera hex plus are designed to accommodate rounded head as well. It totally outclass Wiha in its ability to turn worn, damaged screw head.
      So, perhaps use Wiha on new looking screw and Wera for anything that have seen a better day.

    • @LairdDavidson
      @LairdDavidson 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have both Wiha and Wera as well. Both are good when it comes to screwdrivers (I'm happy with either) but I really prefer Wera's hex keys over others.

  • @SzX1X
    @SzX1X 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am always unsure, if my cheap 60 bucks torque wrench is safe enough to work on carbon parts. But then, I always get reminded, when changing tires on a ride or adjusting a carbon seatpost, I don’t carry a torque wrench ofc. So maybe a 100 bucks torque wrench is overrated for a hobby-mechanic?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah. We use expensive ones for workflow and durability really. They still often wear out before they loose accuracy

  • @mikekelly2324
    @mikekelly2324 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ye the lads in work all use bahco and wera

    • @mikekelly2324
      @mikekelly2324 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We do always use norbar torque wrenches/equipment, they do screwdrivers that might be handy for you, up to 6nm

  • @markifi
    @markifi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i prefer beta

  • @jozefsk7456
    @jozefsk7456 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why not calibrate torque wrenches yourself? I bet you do have a good reason for it.
    torque wrench calibration
    kg (of the calibration weight) x 9.81 x length (m) from pivot point to middle of the handle = the torque value to set the wrench to, during calibration, turn the adjustment screw

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I haven’t honestly tried it with my wera kit. I probably should. With the cheap M part ones the adjustment screw is quite obvious.

  • @steppings5645
    @steppings5645 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nothing like good tools and nothing worse than cr@p tools.

    • @KOL630
      @KOL630 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Never a truer word spoken! 👌🏼

  • @cosinus_square
    @cosinus_square ปีที่แล้ว

    'Tools won't pay for themselves unless you work with them for a living !' - says any average auto mechanic anywhere that has over 10K invested in real tools. Save your money and get Halfords Advanced instead. Life time warranty. If you don't use everything as a hammer, they'll be as good as new 25 years later. I've had a Halfords Advanced tool set for about 12 years, allen keys are still sharp after years of abuse. Bicycle bolts are a joke anyway, they won't wear any tool that is not made in china out of recycled pepsi cans. I know this might sound crazy but you don't need ball end allen keys if you only work on bikes, a bolt that needs to be removed at such an angle is not found on a bicycle. If one only works on its own bikes, a better investment is to just replace all bolts with stainless steel bolts, it'll be the best £20 you've ever spent on your bike.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting take.