Porsche Taycan 4S 93 kWh range test
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The german guy was not convicted for using touch screen, he was fined because he wasnt paying attention on the road. Media was misleading
Yes
He was trying to find the wiper setting and had to search in the menu.
Every other proper car has a direct stick switch for that. Not so in a Tesla. What a fail!
@@SpeedFlap You can use your voice for the wipers...
He wasn't paying attention to the road because the only way to adjust his windshield wiper speed was on the touchscreen, yet he *has* to adjust the speed in order to be able to see. Do you understand the problem now?
@@homomorphic again, wrong, the screen is not the only way to adjust the wipers, you can just use your voice...
About the using Touchscreen Lawsuit: He got punished for looking away from the road for too long and causing an accident that way. Using a touchscreen is perfectly legal in germany as long as you are still able to drive your car safely. Source: I read the court documents.
Source(s): Dude trust me
@@MrHardasLt what kind of source do you want to see? I can link you the sentencing explanation given by the court, which is in German if you want to. I don't know if there are any good translations. If you really want to I can translate it for you.
Max xaM Thanks for the info. I didn’t know the details.
Everything what distracts you while driving is a problem (especially if you're holding a cam constantly :D) .. but the stupid press will just push it with a TESLA buzz word in the headline :)
he went into the menu and changed advanced settings you should have already changed prior to the drive. The touchscreen was never the problem, but media is full of retards. Then again this is the reason people who provide good information like Björn get so many views here.
260 kw charging and such a good range must make up for an excellent competitor in the 1000km challenge
Best test it with Sweden route.
@@NyashaM Yes, shows they have 0 knowledge of EV marketing, otherwise the range test for WLTP and others(press cars for instance!!) would have been done with 19". The extreme bad press for the poor range hurt the Taycan a lot.
Taycan even gets a "German Supercharger" network. They announced it recently. With Audi together, it should be ready in a few years. So even there they are catching up, very slowly, but its a start.
Tesla is using Aero wheels since the 2012 Model S, they really should watch closer what they are doing. Beginners mistake with dramatic consequences.
@@NyashaM Arc invest(the one that told everyone that Tesla stock will skyrocket for sure 2019) for instance used the extreme poor range of Mercedes,Porsche, Audi... for there advantage, they pushed the Tesla stock easy and a lot because of this. If Porsch is satisfied with the result. Good for them. Even better for Tesla. After B-Day there is nothing that can stop Tesla anyway. So doesn't matter really.
Nyasha Mushambi Tesla is competing with them, they modified the model s on the Nurburgring to beat the taycan’s best time for marketing. They said the model s is the fastest sedan car on the Nurburgring which is bullshit as they turned it into a race car which no longer makes it a sedan.
Tesla is competing with them and beating them, but they are always say that Tesla is not a competitor, so they don't have to do anything to improve in relations to Tesla. For example BMW, officially, BMW says they are not competing with Tesla. VW is.
The fact is, Tesla is the benchmark in most things EV right now and the other competitors don't like it at all. Polstar just did fabricate a efficient test where Model 3 is behind the Polestar 2. It really must hurt them, that they can do nothing to challenge Tesla. B-Day will be the final nail in the coffin for them. Looking forward to it.
The 19" alloys look better than I thought, I'll take back what I said during the live stream. Definitely worth for the efficiency
According to Porsche the 20" aero wheels are actually slightly more efficient, it depends mostly on tire width and rim design.
Lol. Efficiency with a Porsche. That’s why these cars just don’t work.
@Kzn Nzn 20" Taycan Turbo Aero have the highest range. Even more than the 19".
@Kzn Nzn
You can see it in the configurator at the bottom you have Technical specs and there is Range specific to vehicle.
21" E-design wheels: 460 km
20" Turbo aero: 503 km
19" base Aero wheels: 500 km
Adding sunroof is 2 km less
Adding comfort seats with heating and cooling is 12km less
Sport design packet is 1 km less range.
These was taken from Taycan RWD with battery plus.
And the Aeroblades Carbon are also 461 km which surprised me the most.
I've actually started to like the look of higher-profile tires. Just me?
No, not just you. I have always wondered when the growth of the wheel sizes will stop. It is increasingly harder to get a car with not some kind of humongous wheels. I would have loved to install 16" wheels to Kona EV, but they are not allowed by spec. Wonder what range might a 64 kWh Kona EV have with 205/55 16" tyres?
Low profile tires might look cool for some people. But they are loaded with disadvantages:
- More noise
- Higher consumption
- More expensive
- Worse comfort
- More likely to damage them on potholes
- Less forgiving when doing a mistake parking
totally!@@Tanel3
@@bjornnyland Exactly!
Have you noticed how cars look better when the tires are covered in snow or dust? The tires become more visible and the wheels look larger and better.
I have been watching your channel for many years. Thank you so much for all your research and the clear presentation of your results. I have decided to sell my Fossil cars and go full EV from watching your channel. Test driving the Taycan 4S and Turbo on Wednesday even though I live in UK where we have terrible supercharger network if you don't drive Tesla. I like Tesla generally but this review and the others you did on Porsche Taycan made me want to try those. Great channel Bjorn.
If you have a budget for a Porsche, no doubt ... Porsche must be the choice!
I would look into the palladium(3 motors) "120 kWh" Model S in a few month. But your choice.
@@kasmopaya2676 Thanks. I am interested to see what happens on "Battery Day" with Tesla and Plaid speed. But if I were buying a Tesla I would want the Roadster - which isnt available and unlikely to be for about two years in UK. Or Model X - when they upgrade it - for long road trips. They need to refresh the S and X before I would think of buying one. Just like the look of the Porsche as a car - and Bjorn's road test shows they go much farther than they advertise. But thank you for your comment. Much appreciated
@@robmac9733 You are welcome. ^^ I think the plaid drive train will be ready on B-Day. Soon after they announce the bigger battery's for S and X on 22.09.20 , you can buy them. Delivery time minimum 3 month, because of US production.
Good night.
@Rob Mac: and what was the test drive like? Are you getting a Taycan?
i love aerodynamic rims. about the only thing on your car you can change to improve efficiency
But it looks so ugly 🙄😂
And Rims look good too.
@@marcw8133 I dont find it ugly at all! efficiency is beautiful!
I really like the look of aero-wheels. They make the whole car more sleek and elegant. And of course the effect on efficiency compared to a normal design is huge, especially if the rims have a big diameter.
lowering it changes a lot too.
Super impressive, it annoys me that the EPA understates the Taycans range so heavily
Fansl And overstates a US manufacturer EPA range.
@@VirtuellJo Exactly. I love Tesla and I'm not even saying that the EPA is lying, just saying that their test cycle has to be absolute BS
It's wild. Taycan 4S and Model S Raven have about the same highway efficiency, with the Taycan battery having 7% less usable energy, but the Porsche is rated for 203 miles while the Tesla is rated for 402 miles (50% less).
Porsche needs to calibrate and engineer the Taycan to perform to the EPA test better -- even if the real world results are good.
Michael S. And Tesla must stop lying.
@@VirtuellJo All testing is standardised for comparison, even with ICE cars few people can get the rated efficiency. A car manufacturer can use the standard test range, or they can reduce the range, they cannot increase it. Porche almost certainly reduced the range for some marketing reason.
There is no lying here.
Some ICE cars did create a bypss in the testing - not just emissions - but with a special code that would detect the test and turn of functionality completely to improve the range.
Just because you don't like Tesla, don't make comments like this.
I’m surprised how much I like this car
For that kind of budget it would be sloppy of them to release a shit car. Then again money doesn't guarantee a good product. I'm glad they did a good job!
@@rbkfan200 yet you’ve never owned a taycan?
Just saw one of these (in blue) on a highway near me -- the Taycan is beautiful!
This is why i get 18" aeros for my Y. Efficient tires are just that important. Maximum efficiency FTW. And the 19" tires on Taycan look just gorgeous
What size exactly are ur tires and wheels? I too want to downsize my 21” on my Y for the winter set..
@@haroldlee6923 Hi there. I don't have my Y yet, because the Gigafactory Berlin has to be built first. I am planning(End of 2021, beginning 2022) on getting a long range Y, silver color, white seats, FSD and so on. Currently the configurator only lets me put on the 19" but i know that the 18" aeros from Model 3 are also fitting. So if Tesla doesn't offer it, i get them after market. Last year we could pre-order the Y with 18", don't know why this is not offered any more. So, just as far as i know, you only have to buy the 18" from Model 3 and you are done. But i recommend you research that first, i am not 100% sure.
@@kasmopaya2676 if you dont mind
what is FSD on a model Y meaning? and did you pre order the car or would order it later? :)
thank you :)
@@giri1478 FSD= full self driving
Also i order tow hitch and winter tires.
I did not pre order, because the extra colors that Giga Berlin(gets best paint shop in the world) offers are not available in the configurator yet. And the 18" are also not available. Once you pre order, you cant change our order, as far as i know. So, i defently want one of the new colors that will come. Elon recently spoilered the first new color, its blood red. Very nice. I want the discontinued Metallic Silver color back. Or maybe a color that i dont even know yet, because who knows what colors come. Some of them subtly change with curvature of the car. Its gonna be awesome and Ramstein comes to the opening of the factory, they are building a rave cave under the factory!
And to top it off, we are getting the new battery tech, that will be shown on B-Day, right from the start for the Y. (1 million mile battery)
This car will be beyond insane...
Have a nice day and stay healthy.
@@kasmopaya2676 thank you for the reply - i hope the battery tech improves
we understand, bjørn: the only advantage of an 800 V system is doubling the power delivered by the cable when charging at the same current rating compared to a 400 V system. but the major drawback is the higher dielectric stress on all drivetrain components and the need for improved insulation in order to maintain insulation lifetime compared to a 400 V system...
Another disadvantage of 800 V is the need for DC to DC conversion when using most fast chargers that are only designed for 400 V systems.
That's a big difference between front and rear tires width, 225 vs 275. I wonder if a more reasonable 245 at rear would make a worthy difference.
It should give Taycan better efficiency, but well that's Porsche. They love big wide wheels/tyres
With some golden wheels and accents it would make a fine Iron Man mobile.
Thanks for your videos, you make these times easier for me
Base Taycan would be fine for me. These wheels look nice. The red color...not so much. Porsche has plenty of nice colors available
This is a very important video. It shows that the silly concept that "Tesla has the best batteries/drivetrains" and "Everyone is 8/12 years behind them" is a very silly concept. On the drivetrain they may have only some % advantage if any. Most of the Tesla cars efficiency is in the other parts of the car IMHO: weight, aerodynamics.
Many people measured Tycan range more than the EPA range. But this video shows a much bigger difference.
Also shows the affect of the wheels.
The one thing I do not understand is why did Porsche let the EPA stay with that low number. They could have made this configuration for the EPA/WLTP testing. That number still matters for many people, even for EV experts.
This is a big question for me.
Because these type of test can be misleading!!! EPA doesn`t test in range mode! In range mode, this car does not use rear motor at all! If you drive in normal it uses rear motor often. Imagine accelerations, uphills etc...consumption will go waaay higher! Its much better then EPA but its on Porsche, not them... They can ask for another test... They also unlocked top buffer...
And btw. this car costs twice as Tesla with similar specs!!!
This shows that you have to modify the taycan to compete in range with tesla but that taycan would be much slower than a tesla. By the way costing double.
The car have got a 93 kwh battery if you put the model 3s 75 kwh battery you'll see the difference.
Ferenc Tóth here’s why, Porsche doesn’t want to tell too many taycans. If the range was 300+ you bet a lot of people would chose a taycan over not only tesla, but other Porsche vehicles, they don’t want to cannibalize their own sales. I’ve heard many people say that if it had a longer range they’d buy it over any other Porsche!
@@harsimranbansal5355 Why is that a problem for them? They can just limit their production/year. Easily doable. + they can raise the price. What you are saying does not seem logical to me.
However EVs with limited editions are not logical for me either. So maybe I do not get something.
Also, now Tesla has 3-4x more capitalization than VW. I really don't think that this does not matter to the shareholders and leaders.
nice car. can wait the 1.000km chalenge with taycan.
thanks again for suffering on the highway for hours so we don' t have too...i feel your pain but smile also with the lights on/lights off....
Hmmm curious how a couple of the popular electric vehicle sites haven't posted anything about these results even though it's been up for two days now...
Doesn't fit the narrative...
Thanks for this👍 you saved a boring sunday with this upload.
5:40 , the tallest wood multi story building in the world
Sup
15:07 OMG at the dang bugs!!!! I couldn't live there. Great test!!
I have Hankook Ventus Prime 3 (225/50 R17) on Dotz Shift rims on my classic IONIQ and these tyres are much better than the the original Michelin tyres on R16 rims. In consumption as well as in noise level.
Yesterday, I drove ca. 550 km on German Autobahn with 148 Wh/km at 125 km/h (GPS measured). Never got this low consumption with the Michelin tyres on original IONIQ rims...
Michael Pries Sounds like an interesting case for Uncle Bjorn to test. Either this Taycan with the Michelins or a Tesla Model S raven with these Hankooks.
@@MacGuyver85 Maybe, if he is not to busy with all his other projects...
We could take my 90.000 km old IONIQ as reference. I was at his address last year, but unfortunately he was on a 1000 km challange at this time.
But he can give me a note here and I will contact him, if he is interested. He knows me as "The crazy German living in Danmark". So Bjørn, if you read this, it's up to you 😉
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
Maybe I'll swap my Michelins for the Hankook Ventus Prime 3 K125 in 235/45R18 on my TM3.
The Taycan looks sooooo good omg
The moral of this video is narrower tires make a big difference. Thanks for this one.
That’s the reason why Teslas have narrow tires that make them more efficient but look so ugly, especially Model S.
@@ericdupin5405 Model S has (at least) 245 wide tires, what are you talking about?
To be honest, Porsche has years of experience in the Le Mans series. Tesla and the Chinese manufacturers needed to start at almost zero with inventing the car. But I love to drive it when I can afford it.
But Porsche has no experience with electric drivetrain. Tesla has years of experience from Roadster.
@@bjornnyland True, it was a hybrid, but I assume Audi's e-tron was also a derived product from the racing team inventions. They are both still more experienced in car building. The rattle you mentioned shouldn't be in an almost final production car, that is not Porsche-worthy. But you accept it for Tesla because their lack of experience.
Not too shabby range! So there are configurations that TayCAN the range thingie. Like the rims and color. I think the owner picked the right options. Comfort and range first. Car is still way fast enough.
Yesterday long ass trip with my Model3 LR AWD. Max speed is limited to100km/h now in
The Netherlands during the daytime.
No wind, temperature between 23 and 30. Tesla 18" no aero caps. Standard Michelin tires. 500km in total, to the South of the country and back. Average 140 Wh/km. Cruising 105km/h on speedo.
Would be interesting if you swapped the all tyres for 235 to see if it would beat Tesla. Those 275 at the rear are big as hell
It is a Porsche , it needs fat tires at the rear :)
19 inch looks good on Taycan!
Have driven taycan turbo with acoustic glass on 21" rims and i have to say it is almost like a library inside. Feels more silent than a 5 series or e class etc
Yeah
I drive 1.2 litre swift and I am watching this
@@NyashaM at least you use public transport, all I can afford is using my grandfather's mule and attached wagon. Public transport is my dream
@@jordanhart9441 I'm sitting on the toilet
@@NyashaM you'll get it
@@sticc3978 me too 😁
Now that Porsche has made a software upgrade, you need to test it again to see if they really did have a range increase.
That case was not about touchscreens alone. Touchscreens are fine to use, but functions that you may adjust while driving must have a known spot. Its not allowed to have them hidden within sub-menus within the infotainmentsystem on a touchscreen. Big difference.
So wiper intervals in TM3 is not allowed for example.
ABS-OFF on the Porsche is allowed, since its always on the same place.
Would be interesting to see what the Model S Raven could do with those Hankook tires.
And at 27 degrees.
Best EV cars reviewer. Period. Good stuff Bjorn!
In my opinion taycan is the best electric car out here(not looking at price), it doesn't overheat it's schell but that price is high
XxKubaxX Yeahhh, except it does overheat of course.
riDDimann thedriven.io/2020/08/14/porsche-taycan-battery-overheats-on-nurburgring-north-loop/
wystaam no ID3 is best.
@@MacGuyver85 Every car will overheat but not that often like tesla
Tesla is loosing power after second 0-100 launch, taycan can do more and after that charge at 300kw
A great result no doubt, but take the basic Tayacn price and add €6000 for the larger battery, €4000 for the sunroof, €2000 for the tinted sound insulated glass and the price soon soars far past the €110,000 price point. If you can afford the price, I’m sure it’s a great machine. Perhaps not for everyone.
Taycan 🥰
great test and a great car... Especially 800 volts quick charging is great.
Porsche offer 22kW charging upgrade above 11kW default. If an aftermarket provider offered 22kW upgrades for Tesla model 3&Y I’d be a buyer.
Thanks so much for making these incredibly informative videos 👍👍
Thanks for the vid but I'll stick with Tesla S lud.
If you want to improve mileage, blow the tires up more to decrease rolling resistance
amazing the amount of time you put into range test these vehicles. I do similar tests but only because I need to go anyway. My lead foot would wreck all these tests, 30% decrease because the car cant stay below 90 :)
Use cruise control and enjoy the ride!
4:20 I have seen this landscape so often in your videos that i want to go there 😂
Can highly recommend going on a road trip in Norway! You could go to Oslo, then follow this road north/north west, and explore Møre og Romsdal (Trollstigen, Trollveggen/Troll wall, Romsdalen, Atlantic Ocean Road, Geiranger - All amazing places!)
You very fast at editing. Yesterday filmed, today video online. Impressive!
kWh/100 km is a very useful quantity... You can very quickly ascertain in your head how efficient the battery pack is, knowing how many kWh it is when fully charged, and thus how many hundreds of km you are getting... 15 kWh/100 km is excellent, as you say, because one can quickly see that there are six 15s in 90 (6 x 15 kWh = 90 kWh), so you can get close to 600 km of driving if that rate holds up, which is astounding range.
You should add a slide that shows the AA of the tires. That is what makes a tire more or less efficient and gives some good perspective rather than just giving the name of the tire. Ex. 400AA is less efficient than 700AA but provides greater traction...
Bmw i3 also shows accurate battery temperature in a hidden menu very easy to find!
This is what doesn’t make sense to me. How does the Taycan only score 198-201 miles of range on the EPA test but a Model Y LR AWD can get 316 miles??? I know I personally wouldn’t ever be able to hit 316 miles in my Model 3, let alone the bigger and heavier and less aerodynamic Model Y. This Taycan on the aero wheels and smaller tires is impressive! If only it wasn’t so ridiculously overpriced. It does give me hope though that future electric VW models will be decent!
They left the door open?
After dieselgate all german manufacturers will be extremely conservative because the US guys are ready to sue evedybody for anything for money 😁
EVPaddy I don’t understand why they’d underreport so substantially. Every test of the Taycan has far exceeded the rated range.
Ivan Dimitrov I mean dieselgate is sorta way different than giving a car a range estimate. Dieselgate was the purposeful manipulation of emissions equipment and a 10 year long cover up of it.
EVPaddy maybe so. I mean the tires and wheels definitely make a huge difference on EVs so I wouldn’t be surprised if the official range is closer to the actual real world range of Taycans with he massive high performance rubber. Between my Performance 3 and our non-P LR AWD 3 the tires and wheels contribute to a 20-25% difference in range.
You are a blessing for people looking into buying an EV. Real numbers. Don't have the money yet but one day I'll buy one based on your research, thanks! Btw, you are also super funny.
Thanks to Bjorn I have played the lottery ... and I keep on doing that, I want that car! 🤠
Philip Claeys no auto steering though
@@jaguar4u the answer can be found in this video, at 2:10 th-cam.com/video/sA4gTmGAMsw/w-d-xo.html, meaning, you are wrong!
The car is spec`d with LED Matrix (PDLS+), but in range-mode the car will power down the lights due to increase range. If you put the car in an another mode, as normal, sport or Sport+, the lights will even be brighter. The strange thing her is that the owener of the car has not spec´d it with Sport Chrono... what a shame.
Great test as usual. It's obvious that tyres dimension and compound have a huge effect on efficiency as Cx, SCx and weight also have. But as you say it's a sport car and people love big rims and tyres. I was surprised the first time I saw the model S large tyres because in my opinion this would eat energy and reduce part of the engineering effort to gain every wh of consumption. But you know marketing is always a powerful department in a company.
Only if my wallet could get fatter this is my dream car🔥
Use lots of small value bills?
@@bonham1981 ouch
Like those rims. Excellent as always.
Yes! I want a Taycan now!
Good result ..best we got at that speed on our etron was 18 without climate but its a boxy suv ..far cry from sleek taycan..gom on similar battery was 445km
The German guy in the Tesla went onto his middle screen to adjust the setting of his wiper interval. Instead he could have just used the lever (I think he was in an S?), just like you'd do in the Porsche
Nice! So basically Taycan 4S with 19" wheels has the same highway efficiency (okay, about 3% less) as a Model S Raven with 19" wheels.
But as a performance vehicle, more Taycan owners are likely to get the Turbo or Turbo S wheels, which increases grip at the expense of efficiency (more drag and rolling resistance).
Sort of. Conditions were ideal, with model s test temperature was much lower... But range and efficiency is really good. Bare in mind in range mode!(only front motor) Also AC was in eco mode...
The PS4S are the grippiest tires you can get though
Car and Driver Tested Both a Model S Raven Performance, and A Taycan Turbo S H2H. During their test, both cars achieved the same, similar range, particularity on the streets during their testing (vs the oft quoted 75 mph, 100 mile Nardo Oval test) where both cars achieved identical MPGE ratings. .
@@shellderp My Nitto NT01s would beg to differ
@@DG-uv3zw well hes doing all efficiency test with the most efficient drive mode any car offers. the model s temp was only a few degrees lower, not even close to where it would need to heat the battery.
As for the advantage of a 800V system compared to a 400V; the power (loss) is the current squared times the resistance. So if you double the voltage to 800V (by putting more battery cells in series) then also the current required to in/output the same given power is only half, but because the internal resistance losses are squared they are 4 times smaller instead of just 2 times. So less heat generated inside the battries and electronics/cables. However it comes with some drawbacks as well (more expensive electronics and increased distance need for insulation)
The heat generated in the batteries are the same for 400 V and 800 V packs.
@@bjornnyland Yes you are right! The heat (loss) generated in the battery pack stays the same regardless of voltage. The only difference is in the cabling and motor + drive units, I cut a corner too fast there in my initial reply.
Taycan is so amazing quality! So massiv stiff
Amazing Taycan EV
It’s not just tires making it efficient, Bjorn is driving sub 100km/h..
That's the procedure of my test. Check out my channel.
@@bjornnyland change your procedure to reflect real world driving (70mph is pretty much the min speed in the us) love your videos though, so dont get butt hurt :)
What a beautiful car
Wow perfect car ,perfect configuration !!!! Dream car!!
Philippe Fagnant no auto steering
@@jaguar4u i hope so
Excited
579kms 😳😵😎😎😎
78 mins to fully recharge is nothing..
Wow!
2-75% took only 20 minutes.
@@baldurornoskarsson1204 amazing tech
@@baldurornoskarsson1204 that's pretty good. You could pull over grab a sandwich and a drink while the car recharges.
The problem with the test is that you have a super heavy car on skinny tires. The skinny tires will have less traction on acceleration, cornering and braking - and that is the price you pay for greater range. The range difference between this car and the stock Taycan is due almost entirely to this.
This is Norway and not on the autobahn. I think the tires will be more than fine on everday use in Norway, providing Great grip, Hankook tires are very good tires..
Statistically the Xpeng P7 is more efficient in '90 km Test' based on this chart 12:02 and should be ranked #3 ahead of Taycan using your own numbers:
-Xpeng P7 492 / 73.8 = 6.667
-Taycan 4S 579 / 86.9 = 6.663
The subtitles in the preview if this video says ’thai can’😂
Bjørn must have hacked it
Bjørn must have hacked it 👨🏻💻
You made a good call switching out your Tesla to be able to show us lots of different vehicles
Who said I switched out my Tesla?
@@bjornnyland I must be mistaken. Didn't you sell one of them?
Bjørn used to have a Model S, then X, and now 3. But he tests all brands.
@@tbnzet Okay, I must have mis-remembered. I do remember a video on wanting to spice things up with more than just Tesla content
@@amateurwizard Sure, and even though I own a Tesla, I think it's awesome that he tests all brands. All EV's are a step in the right direction :)
this was so awesome, need more of this
Nice review Bjorn. My Tesla Model S Performance however also shows battery temperature when switching to ludicrous mode. The Taycan is not the only one... :)
I don't count it because you have to be in Ludicrous+ mode which heats up the battery for maximum acceleration. This is not a normal mode anyone is using.
I was hoping you could do the 1000km challenge, but I think you actually have the data to do it in theory given this run.
Taycan Turbo S on Autobahn would be insane
I was reluctantly considering one, but the range would be non existent with my driving style. The charging network in the U.K. is awful, so it just doesn’t make sense.
I love fat profile tyres now that low profile is so common :) looks tough
If they make a revised version without the 2 speed in the back, man that's gonna be amazing! But i'll miss the thicc model 3 Pilot Sport tires
This Taycan is very nice I like the green color tho bc it looks like a frog 💚💚💚
It's nice that the Taycan is showing the battery temperature, but at the end of the day it does not matter at all. The only thing that matters for the driver are the recuperation restrictions.
You should also give us the Wh/mi for people in the US. Thanks!
9:57 that red paint, 😭 looks like a fire dpt car
Great stuff. Love the colour and styling. It makes me wonder how much difference tyre and wheel combinations make to the fuel consumption of ICE cars
The rims look nice 👍
You seem to read the questions I have in my mind
Great test. Now you need to test the RWD Taycan!
Interesting I have a 4S (93) with Michelin tires (turbo wheels) and got almost 300 miles calculated after a 150 mile trip at mostly 75 MPH. My instrument read 29.6 KW/100 miles.
Congrats on getting such a sweet car!
@@Y34HN0 You should try a 75MPH run on the Model S
Thank you
Red is definitely not the best looking colour on a Taycan
I see they do a powder blue...a bit like the gulf colours blue. It doesn't suit that either. This needs to be in a dark colour. Or white.
3:30 regarding the touchscreen case / the Tesla owner opted to use the touch screen in the center for activating his wipers instead of the lever on the wheel which he could have used without having to look away from the street. he had a save option available and choose the less save one which led to an accident. There is a nuance here that probably does not survive the internet fact twisting machinery...
Nice car, but I can't get past that it has a transmission. The nice thing about other electric cars is that you can avoid all of that complexity, maintenance, and potential for failure.
Every car has transmission. This only has one gear more. And it's not even used that often if u drive it like in the video. I'm sure it will not fail. Maybe if u do regular launching from the standstill every day.
The 2-speed gearbox is actually in use a lot. In normal mode (which it defaults to every time you start the car) will be RWD. It means that the car will start in 1st gear and then go to 2nd gear past 80-100 km/h.
@@bjornnyland my mistake then. I thought that lower gear is only user when launching the car, not the normal driving and sport mode to help acceleration
Bjørn Nyland great review as always. As for the 2 speed transmission range mode defaults to second gear and even normal mode will not kick down to first gear unless max torque is requested from the accelerator pedal. Only Sport and Sport plus modes prioritize first gear off the line and hold it to 60mph before shifting to second. Good reading here:
www.peakresources.com.au/news/an-extremely-detailed-look-at-the-porsche-taycans-engineering-designed-to-take-on-tesla/
Thank you for the Video.
I tested the Taycan 4S for the weekend and had reached a promised possible Range of 470km.
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I’d drives top and looks good, but my „Paulchen the black Panther“ (I-Pace 😉) looks better inside (in my opinion).
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looks like the first Tesla S you owned
Interesting. Great work, thank you Bjorn.
Bjørn, did you, at any point of this long drive, find yourself really missing the autopilot? How do you rate the Porsche innodrive?
Yes. This car didn't have autosteer.
The_Dalek interesting.
Thanks for asking the question 👍
FutureNow EV’s and Solar Power in the meantime I had a test drive in my city in a Taycan with innodrive(Porsche autopilot) and have to say it is quite good. Porsche has really killed it. Just waiting for the Lucid Air event this week and the Tesla Battery day to pull the trigger.
No real surprises, here. The Taycan should be extremely efficient on paper, and it's really only the large, performance tires that impact that. Even then, in real-world driving, many Taycan reviewers saw 250+ miles out of a battery charge.
I wouldn't say "extremely efficient". Ioniq and Model 3 are extremely efficient. Taycan and Model S is just "efficient".
@@bjornnyland As executed, sure. Even the 4S you tested could be more efficient with narrower tires all around and completely disabling the rear motor during driving. I guess what I was pointing out is that the Taycan's aerodynamics are actually better than the Tesla Model 3's, so on paper, it should be even more efficient at freeway speeds.
You need to account for all the bugs smashed on the windshield. At least 10 km more without the bugs.
Hey Bjorn, like to see the 1000km chalange with this car. please.
FWD Porsche on 225 skinny tires still not as good as Tesla.. I wonder what Tesla on 225s will be like?
rear tires are 275 Tesla was on 245 front and rear so not really a big difference here, probably even in favor of Tesla.