LIKE if you want to watch more real-life driving. SHARE if you'd like to tell your friends & family about Fully Charged. What happens when German engineering meets British weather? Robert range tests the Taycan Turbo. It's a Porsche so it's pretty incredible, but does the battery meet expectations? Fully Charged is 100% independent thanks to TH-cam Memberships and Patreons. Without you this channel wouldn’t be possible! If you’d like to help support the Fully Charged channel and its mission: Become a Patreon: www.patreon.com/fullychargedshow Become a TH-cam member: use JOIN button above Subscribe to Fully Charged & the Fully Charged PLUS channels Buy the Fully Charged Guide to Electric Vehicles & Clean Energy : buff.ly/2GybGt0 Browse the Fully Charged store: shop.fullycharged.show/ Visit our LIVE exhibitions in the UK, USA & Europe: FullyCharged.Show/events Subscribe for episode alerts and the Fully Charged newsletter: fullycharged.show/zap-sign-up/ Visit: FullyCharged.Show Follow us on Instagram: instagram.com/fullychargedshow Timestamps: 0:00 German engineering v British weather 0:47 The Trip 2:44 How much? 3:10 The Range 4:12 Quality Throughout 4:49 Regenerative Braking 8:02 Charging with 35 EVs for Chargegasm episode 10:00 Bladder Anxiety 10:27 Faster & Faster Charging 11:58 Porsche pushed by Tesla 14:25 Journey's End 15:42 Bobby made a Boo-Boo 16:00 Subscribe & Support Us #CleanEnergy #ElectricCars #ElectricVehicles #ElectricForecourt #ElectricCharging #RenewableEnergy #CleanEnergy #Solar #Wind #Batteries
Why do some Brits insist on incorrectly pronouncing the Porsche name? It's pronounced por-sha not porsh. As a Porsche enthusiast it makes me cringe everytime it's mispronounced. I doubt I'm alone in this as I've heard the same complaint from my club friends.
EU emissions regs forced them to do this. If they wanted to beat a tesla they already had the 911 turbo s. It beats the taycan and will wipe the floor with a tesla.
It's funny you say Porsche has never built electric cars before, but Ferdinand Porsche built the world's first electric car over 100 years ago and built hybrid diesel-electric tanks in WW2, he was fascinated by electric power so have the Taycan is just coming full circle and I think he would have loved what they have done and are continuing to do with electric vehicles.
4ndrossi yea in the UK! The only one in America is Tesla Chargers and high speed charging rapid chargers for non-Tesla cars (CCS) are few a far between in Northern half of our country!
anyone here knows how to convert charging rate from miles per hour to kw per hour. I cannot figure out how fast my car is charging. My car was charging at 297 miles per hour. How many kws per hour is that?
I have suffered this many a time over the years and its definitely worse than range anxiety. Especially if you are in someone else's car and you are trying to persuade them to stop.
This is a serious topic. Most of the charging infrastructure has no “bio” facilities. After driving for an hour or two and then parking to charge for an hour.....🥴 Still find the term bladder anxiety funny though 😂
@@logicalChimp The connectors on smartphones are also hopeless for current carrying capacity. USB C attempts to get around it with higher voltages but the contact size is ridiculously small.
That is what I call dedication. Driving the Porsche Taycan in the pouring rain so that you can charge it up! Robert clearly hated every moment of it. Robert used to be a petrol head, now he is an electron head! Thanks a lot, a video from Robert always makes the day better.
@@user-jt1jv8vl9r Agree. I can´t be bothered to drive from Wembley to Brighton. Much more convenient to fly. Especially if you don´t take in account the trip to/from the airport and the time spent for traveling in addition to check in/boarding/disembarking.
What Robert so sensibly points out is... under normal circumstances. nobody buys any car based on a single feature. In this case, you buy a Porsche for it's road behaviour, not it's fuel consumption or range. I see no criticism of Tesla in this, or a criticism of any other electric car. Those who talk of "Tesla killers" seem to miss this major fact of vehicle purchasing. The sooner discussion of electric cars gets away from people trying their hardest to tear down the whole idea of an electric car, and Tesla in particular, the sooner we might all be able to be able to allow them to be very much a small facet in the background of our lives.
I was lucky enough to have a Taycan 4S (93kwh pack) for a couple of days recently. Our company was using it to validate some high powered charging stations in upstate NY. I drove 700 miles in under 24 hours in that car, and it was completely effortless. The fast charging stations in NY and the Electrify America network made it so easy to do. The Taycan was spectacularly comfortable and competent. It also has the best "Guess O Meter" of any EV I have driven, which made the journey that much easier.
People who don't own EVs often focus on how long it takes to FULLY charge from empty to full which is a terrible way to look at charging on road trips. You won't do it that way once you own one. It's a known fact that all EVs charge much faster from 0-50% than they do from 50-100%. The key is to stop more frequently for shorter durations approaching 0% charge rate. Most people factor to arrive at the next charger w/ around 10% left (those who are brave go below that) and then charging only enough to get to the next stop. If you do it this way, with the newer charge technology, you can expect stops less than 10-15 minutes which will get you another hour or two down the road. After a short period you find that this is a FAR better way to travel on long journeys. Far more enjoyable, relaxing and you get to enjoy more of our great country. Also, everything I just described will make up less than 5% of your total time driving it. The other 95%+ will just be plugging in at night when you get home and always leaving on a "full tank" w/o ever having to worry about getting gas again. You'll quickly realize how stupid it is to HAVE to go out of your way once or twice a week to stand outside in the rain pumping gas. What a stupid way to go through life. While it's not perfect it's FAR better than ICE for passenger vehicles for 99% of people out there. Sadly, most of them have no idea that EV would not only work fantastically for them but would improve their day-to-day life in noticeable way... environmental debates aside. They're just better cars in every imaginable way. I'm sure the transition is similar to that of going from horseback riding as a necessity to get from point A to point B to cars the first time around. It really is that much different and makes ICE cars seem so antiquated in power, noise, smell.... just like a horse.
I know it falls short of a Tesla Model S on the range and infrastructure point right now but honestly there is not a world where I choose a Tesla over a Taycan. It’s a delightful car that is super important at convincing die hard petrol heads that EVs can indeed be fun. Just think what the cheaper RWD models will be like or the even faster GT line! Also do you really want to bet against VW catching up on infrastructure. I’d bet they are on parity with Tesla sooner than you think
I got the chance to drive the Turbo S and it is super fast! it is faster then the fastest Tesla (this in the video is not). Well and finally it’s a Porsche .. nothing beats Porsche in build quality - especially not a Tesla 😅
@@MrStian78 There are so aspects of its history they could have drawn on without using a word that has absolutely nothing to do with electric drive-trains.
You're not stupid your an ultimate human entertainment machine, even gives us health facts every time I go on a long journey now I'm going to think of my bladder👍🤣
test drove a Polestar 2 recently. Planned a journey to Switzerland (from Surrey), where I drive quite often to see my sister, and the journey was 7 hours longer because of charging breaks. I will keep my 530bhp twin-turbo V8, thanks!
Probably drove in eco mode. EPA tested lower because they use the default settings and I bet Robert did not use any special settings either. You have to drive in gentle or eco, whatever it is called, that uses only the weaker motor instead of two motors, in order to get the reasonable range out of the Taycan. Otherwise the EPA ranges for city and highway are accurate.
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 EPA ranges are jokes. Tesla never achieved their "wow" range while most of VW Group cars beat their EPA range by 10 - 20%. WLTP range are more accurate..
As far as reviewing cars especially electric cars goes, this channel is one of a kind and brings it to the next level in my opinion. Thank you very much for your content and have a great christmas time.
Well done Robert. Another enthusiastic well informed report. Sensible comments with the appropriate amount of excitement. Mind you I would be excited just to sit in one of those examples of automotive fine art.
Brilliant video. This subject could be so dull but in the hands of Robert it becomes funny, informative, and engaging. Looking forward to more of these and more house price, car price comparisons.
Wait a mo. As a pukka old-school petrol-head I've got a niggling negative observation to make about EVs in general and this Porsche Trashcan in particular. I drove rally cars in the Group-B era - only as an amateur, but I prepared cars, twice drove support vehicles for privateers in the Safari (and finished both times) and did a lot of club rallying in England. So I know whereof I speak when I ask, "Whither Colin Chapman and his philosophy of 'Simplify and add lightness'?" This car weighs 2,880 kilos. Say it slowly. Savour those syllables. It's insane. It's a Porsche, not a brick-built porch. Robert says it costs more than he paid for his house, but I bet it weighs almost as much, too. This car is telling people that being packed with lardy extras is somehow necessary and desirable. Plenty of power, yep, but it sets a bad example of what performance [sic] EVs could and should be about. Discarding an old, heavy, noisy, messy, complicated, inefficient, high-maintenance internal combustion engine and transmission in favour of battery power should be a good thing, but look at the cost in terms of renewables and energy efficiency. It's absurd. It's replacing the Merkin dream of chrome, an iron chassis built out of RSJs, a big block V8 and 'automatic everything' with a mountain of high tech bloatware. And automatic everything. So much for progress. This car - like all EVs - would be a great deal more impressive if it weighed 50% less. Imagine the mileage. I don't mean build it flimsy to give it artificially cool range figures (mentioning no names, hem hem), I mean don't load your cars with a ton of smart tech and energy-hungry goodies. That should be seen as a BAD thing. I'm reminded of US manufacturers falling over themselves to produce bigger and bigger cars with gigantic engines and stupid kerbweights because consuming less and taking up less space on the road and in the world was seen as un-Constitutional and Communist and evil and cowardly and wrong. Well, conspicuous consumption is back, and it's lithium powered. Viva Canyonero. Making it electric doesn't make it good. Are EVs destined to become tomorrow's moronic muscle cars? Colin Chapman might be impressed by the technology, but I think he'd be appalled by its application.
Great work, such a well put together episode. Love the futuristic music. 45 kWh/100 mi ~ 2.2 mi/kWh which is appalling for a city car, but irrelevant for a performance vehicle for the disgustingly rich. Also, another great car producing no toxic fumes or ear blowing exhaust sound to cause nuisance in cities 🥳.
Great video. Both informative as well as entertaining to watch. I have a Taycan Cross Turismo since 4 months and absolutely love it. Fantastic car to drive and charging on Electrify America works well for road trips. As a daily I charge it in my garage 2-3 times per week over night.
Good story, homey and fun. Robert, you have a way with words. Do I want a Porsche, prolly not due to the fact that I'm older than you and it's a chore crawling down into my wife's XJ6. So something a bit more upright and off-roady (I do go off road now and then), but with the same level of detail, fit & finish would be nice. Also love the no huge center screen. Proper cockpit there :-)
OK this episode is a watershed moment in UK EV life for me. Its not a Tesla, Its not a golf cart, there is superb charging, It all works, its positively cool because its Robert Lewellen and the credibility level is off the scale. Congratulations to Fully Charged, Porsche and Gridserve. I have to wave the Tesla flag since owning P85 Model S from 2014 and 100,000 UK miles, Tesla your mission is officially working. How long have I waited for this moment, Id say 20 years! From the early days of the Electric Symposium meetings to test drive in a P85..........The frustrating thing is EVs are just plain better, unstoppable momentum here guys.....at last!
Alas, Bobby had to drive across the country to Essex because that's the only GridServe (so far) in the country. Definitely a positive sign, but I'd hold back on the celebrations until they've got a half-decent network of stations covering most of the UK, etc :D (I don't think Bobby went back to the point about the Superchargers at Membury, but iirc there's only a dismal pair of 50Kw chargers for non-Teslas there, as with most UK motorway stations, and a depressingly high chance they're not actually functioning)
@@logicalChimp you don't need to convince me I also ride a Zero SRF electric motorbike which is genius with everything cranked up 100%........oh 80 miles down to 5% and the public charger is Kaput...again! The Zero just needs the public chargers to be working basicly 90 miles range max, its great for a quick blast and back home. Im not up for the logistics of charging at 60 miles on plan A only to panic about plan B and panic panic plan C. I see GridServe as the answer and hopefully when they roll out a few more they will raise the bar, the only down side no more free leccy off Ecotricity pumps!
Dream car. I sold my boxster S for my e-golf. The e-golf can outrun and out handle my boxster with 16” bobbley tyres! I do miss the open top car and the roar it made though. The way it gulped down fuel, not so much. The e-golf off the mark is just astonishing and into a roundabout at a tight lick is nifty. If there is an ID.R that comes out, now that would be something. The golf chassis is so good.
I have a 20 Bolt. The fastest I've see it charge is 53kw, but that is only below 35%, where the charge rate starts to reduce. I think by 55% of capacity the rate was about 45kw. The range estimates are nothing near accurate, and are mostly a shot in the dark. I just made a ~400 mile trip. The app showed 430 miles range before I started. It quickly dropped to 220 mile by time the car was started. I had to charge at about 150 miles. Even on the way back, after the 3rd change (not to full) the dash showed 126 of range and I had 83 miles to go. I arrived home with only 24 miles remaining. Somehow the range was off by nearly 20 miles in just 83, with hours of trip driving to calibrate on. I don't know what kind of engineer writes programs with so much inaccuracy. I can't imagine trusting autonomous driving from GM. The longer I have this car, the more I feel it is a POS.
Speed of charging will be a game changer. Important to us as we are in the 40% with no off road parking or charging, plus no charging at work. I still think the place for these fast chargers is at the out of town supermarket and shopping centres. Everyone has to buy food at some point! Go do your grocery shopping once a week, plug the car in at the car park, come back after doing your shopping and hey presto another weeks worth of fuel! It really is that simple isn't it?
I'd argue that this is perfect weather for test driving a new EV. Any fool can get fairly good results on a fine sunny day but the likes of a typical soggy good ol' Blighty day is much better for giving a more accurate idea of a car's performance. Fantastic review Robert. 👌
Only 81.4KW/h. A long way short of 350! The first and last 20% do tend to charge at a slower rate, plus the battery would be hot from the long journey so the charge rate is reduced to protect the battery. Plus it is limited by local demand. Go back on a quiet day after a short journey and you might see closer to 350. At 14:49 you see he charged 1.221Kw in 54 seconds. (1.221/54)*3600 = 81.4KW/h
Matt Farah got 299 miles or something out of it on a long journey mostly highway miles, but he was not going for range, he just drove it normally. Think he had AC on even... The car has better range than advertised, typical Porsche or any German manufacturer... Shmee just got one, will be interesting to see what he can get out of his car, when he do a longer journey. I'd like all this tech in a Panamera wagon, perfect car! :D But right now, this is the dream, not that I'll ever own one... but one can dream! xD
14:00 Just a note. The Taycan's battery really is significantly smaller than a Model S P100. The Taycan only has 83.7 kWh usable, which is more than 16 kWh less than the Tesla.
2:10 My Taycan takes currently less than 29 kWh/100 miles in 80% city and 20% city highway driving with average 16°C temperature driving slightly faster then the rest of the traffic - no hypermiling!
Now for comparison, stats from the opposite spectrum. Porsche - 2 miles/kWh (eco) Electric Bike - 80 miles/kWh Porsche - $138,000+ Electric Bike - $1,300 Porsche - Faster than a speeding ticket (no limiters required) Bike - 28mph (limited by law to 1HP and built in speed limiter, because a bike is lot more terrifying than a speeding car) now punish my impudence.
I enjoyed your report on the Taycan - thank you. Such vehicles will devolve into vehicles for "the masses". I would like to see your uncle who says "Mhya Mhya Ya", he sounds really interesting.
Terrific piece from the fully charged show, the original and best. Taycan Turbo has to be the best looking EV yet, although hard to see how one would ever actually call upon those massive disc brakes given the regen capacity at each of the four wheels. Perhaps on a track!
How much does the cost per KW compare between fast charging and regular charging? At ionity, it’s 69p per kw for fast charging, at home overnight cheap charging is 5p per kw. That’s 14 times more expensive. What a revolution!
Gentlemen, I realise that we are in sensitive times (Brexit related), is there any chance you could please add range data in km too. That would be greatly appreciated. By the way the graphics u use are excellent, thanks for you good work!
98% of the world uses km not miles, ditto for litres/100Km Combustion car fuel economy and Kwh/100Km for EVS. The default measurements should be these with subtitles for the 2% who need the old system.
I like the analysis that VW was forced kicking and screaming by Tesla to make EVs. Also if it wasn't for motor racing we wouldn't have the tech we all enjoy in modern cars. Or the safety features especially in tyre technology.
Yeah its quite amusing to remember Porsche's early cars were electric and quite innovative. Apparently Boeing/NASA studied them for development of the Lunar Rover..
It's a horrid thought but there was a landmark judgement in the UK yesterday, regarding a little Girl who died from respiratory failure in London and for the first time it was judged to be caused by pollution. Maybe it's me but i figure this would've been quashed if the car companies were still making Billions from using Fossil Fuels. I definitely will not buy an EV from a manufacturer that previously made combustion cars.
It seems that production of luxurious, powerful vehicles isn't the perfect way to improve environmental sustainability - "the larger the vehicle, the more materials required for vehicle and battery, and the more energy required across the various life cycle stages."
It feels like from the start Robert wants to showcase the charge rate and drives all this way only to find out it's not that great and decides not to say it as not to put the Porsche too much in a bad light. Though I do like the Porsche as it has a couple of things really going for it, but I think being open is important as some people might get a surprise if they purchase one and it is not to their expectations. I also understand that peak charge rate doesn't say much in how much time it takes to charge, so best would be to show the charge rate graph over SoC/time.
@@MrBra1nDeaD I agree with you. The car may support 150kWh+ charging but from my experience the peak charging rate is only achieved for a small time. Certainly above 80% the charging speed will drop significantly
Well, @14:48 the display has that charger has delivered 1.221 kW in 0:55 minutes (55 seconds). This equates to a charging rate of ~241.76 kW; not too shabby...
@@returner323617 Hmm, do you mean 1.221 kWh? (Notice the "h"). I don't think that's quite right as 241.67 kW in 55 second would give you 3.69 kWh. So I think you've missed something in your calculation.
Seriously, the max speed on UK motorways should be increased to 80 mph. Same goes for every Interstate in the US. In my opinion, you can only feel the full potential of those cars when you launch them from 30 to 80, like when joining a german Autobahn.
Great video as always. El-cars are so much more interesting than ex-cars. Looking forward to the day you in addition convert to the modern units of measurement 👍
My dad, who hasn't gone further than the next village in three years absolutely won't buy an electric car until they have a usable 400 miles of range. I show him on a map that 400 miles means he'll be in the sea and needing his passport, but it makes no difference. A dose of Robert's common sense might stat to do the trick.
Robert, my first introduction to electrification was a fabulous and highly educational video about Mate Rimac, the Croatian engineer. It’s my understanding that Porsche have bought a stake in his company, which is a technology company.
Great video. Just a couple of comments though The battery pack in the Taycan has (like you also stated) a net capacity of about 83kWh, even if it has about 10 more full, you cannot charge it full. However Tesla doesn't do it like that, they allow you to utilize much more of it. And the pack you find in the P100DL (and the now Performance), and the Long range (Model S and X) for that matter, has about 98kWh net capacity. That is a lot more, that's 15kWh more capacity you can actually charge. So the big range difference is mostly due to that. And that's a big and important factor. Because the Porsche can be charged to 100% every singe day if you want to. While you can do that in the equivalent Teslas, it's not recommended, you will damage the battery pack doing so. And you're left with charging to something like 80% which gives you just about the same range as the Taycan. Now, when you're going on a long trip, you would of course charge the Tesla to 100%, and get the full range. And then it will obviously have an advantage over the Porsche. The secondary reason the Porsche have a bit less range is those massive tires. The car you tested had 305mm rear tires, and 265mm front tires. Equivalent Model S would have 245mm front tires and 265mm rear tires. And that makes a big difference for an electric car. The Porsche is more aerodynamic but those tires bite it in the ass, in terms of range. And you get even more ass biting when you have to drive on a wet road like you did. I think you found the perfect day to show it's lowest range potential. On a warm summer day, you'll get 300 miles easily. So for every day use, the range will not be a big difference. It's only when you have to go far you will get into a bigger difference. And then it's down to charging speed. And if you're going 300 miles, you need to charge both cars, and then you will use less time with the Porsche. Even if you're going to go twice that, you'll still use less time with the Porsche. Unless you get into a queue, or no chargers available and you need to do a detour. But more and more chargers will pop up in the future, and that should not be an issue. The fastest range car will still be a Model 3 Long Range. With it's 250kWh charging potential, Tesla super charger network, and low consumption. ! And for reference I drive a Model S 100D at the moment, and I have a Taycan Turbo in delivery. I had a Model S P85+ before. And I have tested the Model S Performance (latest model) and the Model 3 Performance. That should be all the cars I've talked about !
*Tesla Model S has to be now over 100kWh, because Panasonic improved cell energy density, 400+ mile range. Model 3 battery pack is now 82kWh with the same amount of cells, same price ... 350+ mile range. **Porsche didn't make the Taycan drivetrain, it was Rimac. Mate was saying something about them making the software for the whole VW group. 👍
I have an S but I have to say the Taycan is incredible and a totally different vehicle. Congrats Porsche! Stirling achievement! Did anyone spot what max kW Rob got?
Definitely agree the car is better built. Very impressive vehicle. Battery is slightly disappointing, but in reality not the most ideal car for road tripping anyway. Since an autopilot feature is the best way to go. But regardless it’s luxuriously beautiful. Road trip vehicle? no. Commuter vehicle? Yes.
@ 12:00 - Wise Tesla owners are not upset as we signed on to the brand because of the mission statement. 😎 We welcome all new BEV market entries. (Yeah, there are a few who want the status and to be noticed, but that's why that type used to buy top end Mercs & Jags 🤑 ). By the grace of a higher power and an inheritance, this 99%-er has the basic Tesla M3SR+ and some shares. If money wasn't a restriction, I'd like the Taycan. The car is aimed at those with dosh & a penchant for lifestyle of sleek fast cars. Hopefully pushing BEV's into the mainstream. We live in a capitalist economic system so the Taycan is tailored to take advantage of that (& "human weaknesses").
Gov't really needs to sort the residential public parking , we can't be adding alot of day time high rate charging demand, it needs to be off peak. Local authorities have been putting in chargers in city centre car parks instead of residential areas to support businesses, that wasn't what the gov't intended for the budget.
There have been a lot of gripes about the station range number but it seems to be an underestimation, German car manufacturers tend to lowball their official numbers for some reason. Lots of people get much more than the stated range number in the tycan
Good video and honest truth about range and performance. However, you could have edited it down without losing any significant information. When you've completed your edit it's worth going through it looking for what can be removed that won't detract from the message. Just a suggestion, love your work and enthusiasm.
Hi - excellent review and did consider this vehicle but ultimately purchased the 2021 RS6. My issue as the indicate is the charging network and applaud Tesla for its progressive decision to build a truly global charging network along side the sale of its vehicles. UK Government is of course promoting electric vehicles but do not understand the implications around charging availability. In large cities most housing is apartments, and will have no allocated parking or charging points so will have to use the rapid charging points and these will not be available for other users on extended journeys etc. All new houses should be built with solar panels and 7kw or larger home charging points but will still not negate the apartment issue. Will look again in 3 years and if charging is available at service stations etc will certainly buy an EV, but likely to be the Audi Etron GT when released. Merry Christmas and keep safe in these uncertain times.
Robert, can you feed back on the Ionity upping the price on chargers to be almost the same as filling up with unleaded. i am interested to understand the tariffs involved when charging a non tesla on a longer journey. great vid, love the channel and i am a petrol head 😀
We MAY be at another watershed in battery technology very shortly and a step change in charging and range may happen. There are some very promising developments.
Good point on off-street re-fuelling. I live in Wembley in a 1930s house. No off-street parking. I can see type 2 chargers being rolled-out on-street but not high-speed chargers. The ability to take an EV somewhere, fully fuel it in say 15 mins would be ideal. With top-up where I live...
Actually, Porsche was the first to build a EV-SUV - at the beginning of the 20th century, the Lohner Porsche had hubmotors on each wheel. A later version was the fitrst hybrid vehicle, sporting a ICE and EV drive.
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0:00 German engineering v British weather
0:47 The Trip
2:44 How much?
3:10 The Range
4:12 Quality Throughout
4:49 Regenerative Braking
8:02 Charging with 35 EVs for Chargegasm episode
10:00 Bladder Anxiety
10:27 Faster & Faster Charging
11:58 Porsche pushed by Tesla
14:25 Journey's End
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Great show again! Go on like this, well done, loved it !
How fast was the charging in the end?
This! ^^^
Why do some Brits insist on incorrectly pronouncing the Porsche name? It's pronounced por-sha not porsh. As a Porsche enthusiast it makes me cringe everytime it's mispronounced. I doubt I'm alone in this as I've heard the same complaint from my club friends.
EU emissions regs forced them to do this. If they wanted to beat a tesla they already had the 911 turbo s. It beats the taycan and will wipe the floor with a tesla.
Only found this channel last month. Absolutely Fantastic.
Willkommen im Klub =)
Welcome. It's been fantastic for long time :)
Thanks.
Lucky you! A whole catalogue of great episodes stretching back for years.
Thanks to Bobby, I'm on my 3rd EV.... Zoe, Leaf and 3
It's funny you say Porsche has never built electric cars before, but Ferdinand Porsche built the world's first electric car over 100 years ago and built hybrid diesel-electric tanks in WW2, he was fascinated by electric power so have the Taycan is just coming full circle and I think he would have loved what they have done and are continuing to do with electric vehicles.
15:29 The charging station, Gridserve, looks like an absolute electric car nerd fest - I can’t wait to find a reason to visit.
I can only say it's amazing. 2 minutes from me and been there so far 3 times :)
Electric nerd rest - Why do you think Robert used the Taycan as a reason to visit? 😉😅
4ndrossi yea in the UK! The only one in America is Tesla Chargers and high speed charging rapid chargers for non-Tesla cars (CCS) are few a far between in Northern half of our country!
@@terryrodbourn2793 The one advantage in shoving 64 million people into an island smaller than the state of Kansas
anyone here knows how to convert charging rate from miles per hour to kw per hour. I cannot figure out how fast my car is charging.
My car was charging at 297 miles per hour. How many kws per hour is that?
'Bladder anxiety' is my new favourite phrase.
I have suffered this many a time over the years and its definitely worse than range anxiety. Especially if you are in someone else's car and you are trying to persuade them to stop.
This is a serious topic. Most of the charging infrastructure has no “bio” facilities. After driving for an hour or two and then parking to charge for an hour.....🥴 Still find the term bladder anxiety funny though 😂
Crazy to think there are electric cars with impressive range that charge faster than most smartphones.
Yus - but (most) EVs have active cooling for the battery whilst charging, unlike smartphones etc.
@@logicalChimp The connectors on smartphones are also hopeless for current carrying capacity. USB C attempts to get around it with higher voltages but the contact size is ridiculously small.
Charge your phone in 1 microsecond.. Just before it explodes!
@@anthonyarcher7268 Compared to a petrol or diesel no but its twice as far as the electric van I drive at work.
and it was charging at what rate?!?! Wasn’t that the point?! 🤷♂️
The actual value was, obviously not that impressive.
No, that was the excuse
I wanted to know that as well.
That is what I call dedication. Driving the Porsche Taycan in the pouring rain so that you can charge it up! Robert clearly hated every moment of it. Robert used to be a petrol head, now he is an electron head! Thanks a lot, a video from Robert always makes the day better.
15:30 Looks like someone is happy 😂
LMAO
Uncle Knobhead won’t ever listen to anything that isn’t powered by liquid dinosaurs!
The good thing about electric cars is that you don't HAVE to listen to them.
That and max torque at 0rpm.
Can it beat a train though....!! London - Glasgow..?
Uncle Knobhead loves Brexit and diesel.
@@delboy7039 I'd rather fly. Convenient and cheap. Went from London STN to Edinburgh for £30 return. By train cost me £110.
@@user-jt1jv8vl9r Agree. I can´t be bothered to drive from Wembley to Brighton. Much more convenient to fly.
Especially if you don´t take in account the trip to/from the airport and the time spent for traveling in addition to check in/boarding/disembarking.
What Robert so sensibly points out is... under normal circumstances. nobody buys any car based on a single feature. In this case, you buy a Porsche for it's road behaviour, not it's fuel consumption or range.
I see no criticism of Tesla in this, or a criticism of any other electric car. Those who talk of "Tesla killers" seem to miss this major fact of vehicle purchasing. The sooner discussion of electric cars gets away from people trying their hardest to tear down the whole idea of an electric car, and Tesla in particular, the sooner we might all be able to be able to allow them to be very much a small facet in the background of our lives.
1:27 "Im not going wax lyrical about this car" & then then he starts
What a beautiful car!
The production on this channel is top notch.
You are awesome man, i like watching ur vids.
Cheers from Libya the middle east.
Libya isn’t in the middle east
@@malekalkshaik7243 maybe
I agree when the German manufacturers show up to the party Tesla is going to have some competition ....
And competition is good!
well, where are they all ??????????????
@@Leopold5100 Managing a well thought vehicle that wont lock you inside the car, the second the batteries ignite.
@@4rzaluz Funny cause a Taycan burned down a house in Florida soon after sales
@@shankhadeepshome3982 Thats the point.. batteries are a sudden risk.
I was lucky enough to have a Taycan 4S (93kwh pack) for a couple of days recently. Our company was using it to validate some high powered charging stations in upstate NY. I drove 700 miles in under 24 hours in that car, and it was completely effortless. The fast charging stations in NY and the Electrify America network made it so easy to do. The Taycan was spectacularly comfortable and competent. It also has the best "Guess O Meter" of any EV I have driven, which made the journey that much easier.
Raining in December. Shocker!
NO get it right raining in the UK throughout the whole year shocking.
Turbo S is even faster when turbo kicks in.
Yep, lightning-fast
Add some nox and it will be way faster.
😂
People who don't own EVs often focus on how long it takes to FULLY charge from empty to full which is a terrible way to look at charging on road trips.
You won't do it that way once you own one. It's a known fact that all EVs charge much faster from 0-50% than they do from 50-100%. The key is to stop more frequently for shorter durations approaching 0% charge rate. Most people factor to arrive at the next charger w/ around 10% left (those who are brave go below that) and then charging only enough to get to the next stop. If you do it this way, with the newer charge technology, you can expect stops less than 10-15 minutes which will get you another hour or two down the road. After a short period you find that this is a FAR better way to travel on long journeys. Far more enjoyable, relaxing and you get to enjoy more of our great country.
Also, everything I just described will make up less than 5% of your total time driving it. The other 95%+ will just be plugging in at night when you get home and always leaving on a "full tank" w/o ever having to worry about getting gas again. You'll quickly realize how stupid it is to HAVE to go out of your way once or twice a week to stand outside in the rain pumping gas. What a stupid way to go through life.
While it's not perfect it's FAR better than ICE for passenger vehicles for 99% of people out there. Sadly, most of them have no idea that EV would not only work fantastically for them but would improve their day-to-day life in noticeable way... environmental debates aside. They're just better cars in every imaginable way. I'm sure the transition is similar to that of going from horseback riding as a necessity to get from point A to point B to cars the first time around. It really is that much different and makes ICE cars seem so antiquated in power, noise, smell.... just like a horse.
I know it falls short of a Tesla Model S on the range and infrastructure point right now but honestly there is not a world where I choose a Tesla over a Taycan. It’s a delightful car that is super important at convincing die hard petrol heads that EVs can indeed be fun. Just think what the cheaper RWD models will be like or the even faster GT line! Also do you really want to bet against VW catching up on infrastructure. I’d bet they are on parity with Tesla sooner than you think
80's are back, let's stick a turbo batch on anything moving fast !! ;-)
I got the chance to drive the Turbo S and it is super fast! it is faster then the fastest Tesla (this in the video is not). Well and finally it’s a Porsche .. nothing beats Porsche in build quality - especially not a Tesla 😅
Silly name...
Xtreme Turbo on steroids? ...vomit
@@snowstrobe no, it’s Porsche history.
@@MrStian78 There are so aspects of its history they could have drawn on without using a word that has absolutely nothing to do with electric drive-trains.
Love the car, 350kw charging is a game changer.
The 350 KW charging is bad for battery health though
@@lukeotter898 not according to Porsche.
@@MrStian78 it is because Porsche limit the 350kw down so owners can’t use it because it’s poor for the battery 🔋
@@lukeotter898 well, I have the warranty and I’m not keeping my Taycan longer than 2 years 😊
@@MrStian78 fair enough, they have limited your rate. Looking at a plaid s I guess 😂
From your early days in the model x with the cat you have really nailed this channel, thanks Robert.
You're not stupid your an ultimate human entertainment machine, even gives us health facts every time I go on a long journey now I'm going to think of my bladder👍🤣
test drove a Polestar 2 recently. Planned a journey to Switzerland (from Surrey), where I drive quite often to see my sister, and the journey was 7 hours longer because of charging breaks. I will keep my 530bhp twin-turbo V8, thanks!
If I had the money this is the one I would buy. I have been lucky enough to have owned three Porsches in my life, each car was a joy to drive...
But a pain to live with - too unreliable in my experience
Bjorn Nyland got nearly 580 kms at 90 kph cruise from the big battery Taycan 4S. Only bested by a Model S, I think. On a bigger battery.
I think it did have smaller wheels fitted, though.
4s with big battery is the best of the lot I reckon. Good combo of everything.
Probably drove in eco mode. EPA tested lower because they use the default settings and I bet Robert did not use any special settings either. You have to drive in gentle or eco, whatever it is called, that uses only the weaker motor instead of two motors, in order to get the reasonable range out of the Taycan. Otherwise the EPA ranges for city and highway are accurate.
Yes, Taycan range is extremely variable depending on the the wheels and tires
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 EPA ranges are jokes. Tesla never achieved their "wow" range while most of VW Group cars beat their EPA range by 10 - 20%. WLTP range are more accurate..
Porsche better built than a Tesla - what a surprise. Heck, my wife’s 2013 Audi wipes the floor with my Model 3 with respect to build quality.
Fair to say, no one is buying a Tesla for its build quality. Hopefully this will improve over time.
@@user-jt1jv8vl9r nah they won't because they ain't designed with that in mind.
Don't Tesla have the worst build quality of any cars built today.
As far as reviewing cars especially electric cars goes, this channel is one of a kind and brings it to the next level in my opinion. Thank you very much for your content and have a great christmas time.
Well done Robert. Another enthusiastic well informed report. Sensible comments with the appropriate amount of excitement. Mind you I would be excited just to sit in one of those examples of automotive fine art.
I support only two makers on Patreon. One is an eclectic but highly skilled woodworker, and the other is this show. That's it.
Brilliant video. This subject could be so dull but in the hands of Robert it becomes funny, informative, and engaging. Looking forward to more of these and more house price, car price comparisons.
Robert, I think I speak for all millennials when I say - please don't mention house prices from 30 years ago...
Wait a mo. As a pukka old-school petrol-head I've got a niggling negative observation to make about EVs in general and this Porsche Trashcan in particular.
I drove rally cars in the Group-B era - only as an amateur, but I prepared cars, twice drove support vehicles for privateers in the Safari (and finished both times) and did a lot of club rallying in England.
So I know whereof I speak when I ask, "Whither Colin Chapman and his philosophy of 'Simplify and add lightness'?"
This car weighs 2,880 kilos. Say it slowly. Savour those syllables. It's insane. It's a Porsche, not a brick-built porch. Robert says it costs more than he paid for his house, but I bet it weighs almost as much, too.
This car is telling people that being packed with lardy extras is somehow necessary and desirable. Plenty of power, yep, but it sets a bad example of what performance [sic] EVs could and should be about.
Discarding an old, heavy, noisy, messy, complicated, inefficient, high-maintenance internal combustion engine and transmission in favour of battery power should be a good thing, but look at the cost in terms of renewables and energy efficiency. It's absurd. It's replacing the Merkin dream of chrome, an iron chassis built out of RSJs, a big block V8 and 'automatic everything' with a mountain of high tech bloatware. And automatic everything.
So much for progress.
This car - like all EVs - would be a great deal more impressive if it weighed 50% less. Imagine the mileage. I don't mean build it flimsy to give it artificially cool range figures (mentioning no names, hem hem), I mean don't load your cars with a ton of smart tech and energy-hungry goodies. That should be seen as a BAD thing.
I'm reminded of US manufacturers falling over themselves to produce bigger and bigger cars with gigantic engines and stupid kerbweights because consuming less and taking up less space on the road and in the world was seen as un-Constitutional and Communist and evil and cowardly and wrong. Well, conspicuous consumption is back, and it's lithium powered. Viva Canyonero.
Making it electric doesn't make it good.
Are EVs destined to become tomorrow's moronic muscle cars? Colin Chapman might be impressed by the technology, but I think he'd be appalled by its application.
Great work, such a well put together episode. Love the futuristic music.
45 kWh/100 mi ~ 2.2 mi/kWh which is appalling for a city car, but irrelevant for a performance vehicle for the disgustingly rich. Also, another great car producing no toxic fumes or ear blowing exhaust sound to cause nuisance in cities 🥳.
Great video. Both informative as well as entertaining to watch. I have a Taycan Cross Turismo since 4 months and absolutely love it. Fantastic car to drive and charging on Electrify America works well for road trips. As a daily I charge it in my garage 2-3 times per week over night.
I love it!! You can't even put into words how great it feel to drive!!!❤❤❤❤🙏🏾
that needs just a little bit more dense baattery and a pittle bit much more effective electrical motor and it will be on top.
Good story, homey and fun. Robert, you have a way with words. Do I want a Porsche, prolly not due to the fact that I'm older than you and it's a chore crawling down into my wife's XJ6. So something a bit more upright and off-roady (I do go off road now and then), but with the same level of detail, fit & finish would be nice. Also love the no huge center screen. Proper cockpit there :-)
OK this episode is a watershed moment in UK EV life for me. Its not a Tesla, Its not a golf cart, there is superb charging, It all works, its positively cool because its Robert Lewellen and the credibility level is off the scale. Congratulations to Fully Charged, Porsche and Gridserve. I have to wave the Tesla flag since owning P85 Model S from 2014 and 100,000 UK miles, Tesla your mission is officially working. How long have I waited for this moment, Id say 20 years! From the early days of the Electric Symposium meetings to test drive in a P85..........The frustrating thing is EVs are just plain better, unstoppable momentum here guys.....at last!
Alas, Bobby had to drive across the country to Essex because that's the only GridServe (so far) in the country. Definitely a positive sign, but I'd hold back on the celebrations until they've got a half-decent network of stations covering most of the UK, etc :D (I don't think Bobby went back to the point about the Superchargers at Membury, but iirc there's only a dismal pair of 50Kw chargers for non-Teslas there, as with most UK motorway stations, and a depressingly high chance they're not actually functioning)
@@logicalChimp you don't need to convince me I also ride a Zero SRF electric motorbike which is genius with everything cranked up 100%........oh 80 miles down to 5% and the public charger is Kaput...again! The Zero just needs the public chargers to be working basicly 90 miles range max, its great for a quick blast and back home. Im not up for the logistics of charging at 60 miles on plan A only to panic about plan B and panic panic plan C. I see GridServe as the answer and hopefully when they roll out a few more they will raise the bar, the only down side no more free leccy off Ecotricity pumps!
Take a drive in that new Ford everyone is talking about.
Dream car. I sold my boxster S for my e-golf. The e-golf can outrun and out handle my boxster with 16” bobbley tyres! I do miss the open top car and the roar it made though. The way it gulped down fuel, not so much. The e-golf off the mark is just astonishing and into a roundabout at a tight lick is nifty. If there is an ID.R that comes out, now that would be something. The golf chassis is so good.
Much love, fantastic episode, Robert! ❤️
Just love the looks and design of the Porsche Taycan lineup, saying that as an Tesla Model 3P owner.
Great video as always, Robert is a true gem
The most beautifull EV ever! Amazing car, what a power! What a beauty!
This host is just fantastic.
Very fair. Thanks. 😎
I have a 20 Bolt. The fastest I've see it charge is 53kw, but that is only below 35%, where the charge rate starts to reduce. I think by 55% of capacity the rate was about 45kw. The range estimates are nothing near accurate, and are mostly a shot in the dark. I just made a ~400 mile trip. The app showed 430 miles range before I started. It quickly dropped to 220 mile by time the car was started. I had to charge at about 150 miles. Even on the way back, after the 3rd change (not to full) the dash showed 126 of range and I had 83 miles to go. I arrived home with only 24 miles remaining. Somehow the range was off by nearly 20 miles in just 83, with hours of trip driving to calibrate on. I don't know what kind of engineer writes programs with so much inaccuracy. I can't imagine trusting autonomous driving from GM. The longer I have this car, the more I feel it is a POS.
Amazing video,great graphics about range & location.
Speed of charging will be a game changer. Important to us as we are in the 40% with no off road parking or charging, plus no charging at work. I still think the place for these fast chargers is at the out of town supermarket and shopping centres. Everyone has to buy food at some point! Go do your grocery shopping once a week, plug the car in at the car park, come back after doing your shopping and hey presto another weeks worth of fuel! It really is that simple isn't it?
I'd argue that this is perfect weather for test driving a new EV. Any fool can get fairly good results on a fine sunny day but the likes of a typical soggy good ol' Blighty day is much better for giving a more accurate idea of a car's performance. Fantastic review Robert. 👌
Mechanic: Furiously trying to find the turbo
Hopefully this will be a vehicle that is on the list for a young driver of the future and excites the next gen of drivers !
Only 81.4KW/h. A long way short of 350! The first and last 20% do tend to charge at a slower rate, plus the battery would be hot from the long journey so the charge rate is reduced to protect the battery. Plus it is limited by local demand. Go back on a quiet day after a short journey and you might see closer to 350.
At 14:49 you see he charged 1.221Kw in 54 seconds. (1.221/54)*3600 = 81.4KW/h
Gorgeous car
Matt Farah got 299 miles or something out of it on a long journey mostly highway miles, but he was not going for range, he just drove it normally. Think he had AC on even...
The car has better range than advertised, typical Porsche or any German manufacturer...
Shmee just got one, will be interesting to see what he can get out of his car, when he do a longer journey.
I'd like all this tech in a Panamera wagon, perfect car! :D But right now, this is the dream, not that I'll ever own one... but one can dream! xD
14:00 Just a note. The Taycan's battery really is significantly smaller than a Model S P100. The Taycan only has 83.7 kWh usable, which is more than 16 kWh less than the Tesla.
2:10 My Taycan takes currently less than 29 kWh/100 miles in 80% city and 20% city highway driving with average 16°C temperature driving slightly faster then the rest of the traffic - no hypermiling!
Now for comparison, stats from the opposite spectrum. Porsche - 2 miles/kWh (eco) Electric Bike - 80 miles/kWh Porsche - $138,000+ Electric Bike - $1,300 Porsche - Faster than a speeding ticket (no limiters required) Bike - 28mph (limited by law to 1HP and built in speed limiter, because a bike is lot more terrifying than a speeding car) now punish my impudence.
I enjoyed your report on the Taycan - thank you.
Such vehicles will devolve into vehicles for "the masses".
I would like to see your uncle who says "Mhya Mhya Ya", he sounds really interesting.
Beautiful machine... i love it
Terrific piece from the fully charged show, the original and best. Taycan Turbo has to be the best looking EV yet, although hard to see how one would ever actually call upon those massive disc brakes given the regen capacity at each of the four wheels. Perhaps on a track!
Fabulous show as always - really enjoyed that. Don't like the colour but LOVE the car
Not read all the comments so it might have been mentioned, there is an 83K option and range will improve when the climate is warmer.
How much does the cost per KW compare between fast charging and regular charging? At ionity, it’s 69p per kw for fast charging, at home overnight cheap charging is 5p per kw. That’s 14 times more expensive. What a revolution!
on my christmas list now!!!
Gentlemen, I realise that we are in sensitive times (Brexit related), is there any chance you could please add range data in km too. That would be greatly appreciated.
By the way the graphics u use are excellent, thanks for you good work!
98% of the world uses km not miles, ditto for litres/100Km Combustion car fuel economy and Kwh/100Km for EVS. The default measurements should be these with subtitles for the 2% who need the old system.
I like the analysis that VW was forced kicking and screaming by Tesla to make EVs.
Also if it wasn't for motor racing we wouldn't have the tech we all enjoy in modern cars. Or the safety features especially in tyre technology.
Yeah its quite amusing to remember Porsche's early cars were electric and quite innovative. Apparently Boeing/NASA studied them for development of the Lunar Rover..
It's a horrid thought but there was a landmark judgement in the UK yesterday, regarding a little Girl who died from respiratory failure in London and for the first time it was judged to be caused by pollution.
Maybe it's me but i figure this would've been quashed if the car companies were still making Billions from using Fossil Fuels.
I definitely will not buy an EV from a manufacturer that previously made combustion cars.
It seems that production of luxurious, powerful vehicles isn't the perfect way to improve environmental sustainability - "the larger the vehicle, the more materials required for vehicle and battery, and the more energy required across the various life cycle stages."
But how fast was it actually charging at it's highest peak then? 100kW? 200kW? 300kW?
Agreed - what was the actual charge rate during the stop?
It feels like from the start Robert wants to showcase the charge rate and drives all this way only to find out it's not that great and decides not to say it as not to put the Porsche too much in a bad light. Though I do like the Porsche as it has a couple of things really going for it, but I think being open is important as some people might get a surprise if they purchase one and it is not to their expectations. I also understand that peak charge rate doesn't say much in how much time it takes to charge, so best would be to show the charge rate graph over SoC/time.
@@MrBra1nDeaD I agree with you. The car may support 150kWh+ charging but from my experience the peak charging rate is only achieved for a small time. Certainly above 80% the charging speed will drop significantly
Well, @14:48 the display has that charger has delivered 1.221 kW in 0:55 minutes (55 seconds). This equates to a charging rate of ~241.76 kW; not too shabby...
@@returner323617 Hmm, do you mean 1.221 kWh? (Notice the "h").
I don't think that's quite right as 241.67 kW in 55 second would give you 3.69 kWh. So I think you've missed something in your calculation.
As a petrolhead I am a huge fan of the new electric revolution compared to hybrids.
Seriously, the max speed on UK motorways should be increased to 80 mph. Same goes for every Interstate in the US. In my opinion, you can only feel the full potential of those cars when you launch them from 30 to 80, like when joining a german Autobahn.
Thankyou Robert. Great job as always. x
Great video as always.
El-cars are so much more interesting than ex-cars.
Looking forward to the day you in addition convert to the modern units of measurement 👍
My dad, who hasn't gone further than the next village in three years absolutely won't buy an electric car until they have a usable 400 miles of range. I show him on a map that 400 miles means he'll be in the sea and needing his passport, but it makes no difference. A dose of Robert's common sense might stat to do the trick.
Robert, my first introduction to electrification was a fabulous and highly educational video about Mate Rimac, the Croatian engineer. It’s my understanding that Porsche have bought a stake in his company, which is a technology company.
Great video. Just a couple of comments though
The battery pack in the Taycan has (like you also stated) a net capacity of about 83kWh, even if it has about 10 more full, you cannot charge it full. However Tesla doesn't do it like that, they allow you to utilize much more of it. And the pack you find in the P100DL (and the now Performance), and the Long range (Model S and X) for that matter, has about 98kWh net capacity. That is a lot more, that's 15kWh more capacity you can actually charge. So the big range difference is mostly due to that. And that's a big and important factor. Because the Porsche can be charged to 100% every singe day if you want to. While you can do that in the equivalent Teslas, it's not recommended, you will damage the battery pack doing so. And you're left with charging to something like 80% which gives you just about the same range as the Taycan. Now, when you're going on a long trip, you would of course charge the Tesla to 100%, and get the full range. And then it will obviously have an advantage over the Porsche.
The secondary reason the Porsche have a bit less range is those massive tires. The car you tested had 305mm rear tires, and 265mm front tires. Equivalent Model S would have 245mm front tires and 265mm rear tires. And that makes a big difference for an electric car. The Porsche is more aerodynamic but those tires bite it in the ass, in terms of range. And you get even more ass biting when you have to drive on a wet road like you did. I think you found the perfect day to show it's lowest range potential. On a warm summer day, you'll get 300 miles easily.
So for every day use, the range will not be a big difference. It's only when you have to go far you will get into a bigger difference. And then it's down to charging speed. And if you're going 300 miles, you need to charge both cars, and then you will use less time with the Porsche. Even if you're going to go twice that, you'll still use less time with the Porsche. Unless you get into a queue, or no chargers available and you need to do a detour. But more and more chargers will pop up in the future, and that should not be an issue.
The fastest range car will still be a Model 3 Long Range. With it's 250kWh charging potential, Tesla super charger network, and low consumption.
! And for reference I drive a Model S 100D at the moment, and I have a Taycan Turbo in delivery. I had a Model S P85+ before. And I have tested the Model S Performance (latest model) and the Model 3 Performance. That should be all the cars I've talked about !
One of these cars drives past my house every morning, it sounds like something from “Tron”. Please Santa please....
*Tesla Model S has to be now over 100kWh, because Panasonic improved cell energy density, 400+ mile range. Model 3 battery pack is now 82kWh with the same amount of cells, same price ... 350+ mile range.
**Porsche didn't make the Taycan drivetrain, it was Rimac. Mate was saying something about them making the software for the whole VW group. 👍
Really? Better tell Hitachi....
I have an S but I have to say the Taycan is incredible and a totally different vehicle. Congrats Porsche! Stirling achievement! Did anyone spot what max kW Rob got?
Definitely agree the car is better built. Very impressive vehicle. Battery is slightly disappointing, but in reality not the most ideal car for road tripping anyway. Since an autopilot feature is the best way to go. But regardless it’s luxuriously beautiful. Road trip vehicle? no. Commuter vehicle? Yes.
The future is here, amazing tech. Very happy with my Tesla Model 3 Long Range, fantastic machine.
@ 12:00 - Wise Tesla owners are not upset as we signed on to the brand because of the mission statement. 😎 We welcome all new BEV market entries. (Yeah, there are a few who want the status and to be noticed, but that's why that type used to buy top end Mercs & Jags 🤑 ). By the grace of a higher power and an inheritance, this 99%-er has the basic Tesla M3SR+ and some shares. If money wasn't a restriction, I'd like the Taycan. The car is aimed at those with dosh & a penchant for lifestyle of sleek fast cars. Hopefully pushing BEV's into the mainstream. We live in a capitalist economic system so the Taycan is tailored to take advantage of that (& "human weaknesses").
You also have quite a few Porsche owners who would otherwise buy Porsche ICE cars...
Very interesting video!
Gov't really needs to sort the residential public parking , we can't be adding alot of day time high rate charging demand, it needs to be off peak.
Local authorities have been putting in chargers in city centre car parks instead of residential areas to support businesses, that wasn't what the gov't intended for the budget.
There have been a lot of gripes about the station range number but it seems to be an underestimation, German car manufacturers tend to lowball their official numbers for some reason. Lots of people get much more than the stated range number in the tycan
you are a ambassador for electric tech
Good video and honest truth about range and performance. However, you could have edited it down without losing any significant information. When you've completed your edit it's worth going through it looking for what can be removed that won't detract from the message. Just a suggestion, love your work and enthusiasm.
Hi - excellent review and did consider this vehicle but ultimately purchased the 2021 RS6. My issue as the indicate is the charging network and applaud Tesla for its progressive decision to build a truly global charging network along side the sale of its vehicles. UK Government is of course promoting electric vehicles but do not understand the implications around charging availability. In large cities most housing is apartments, and will have no allocated parking or charging points so will have to use the rapid charging points and these will not be available for other users on extended journeys etc.
All new houses should be built with solar panels and 7kw or larger home charging points but will still not negate the apartment issue.
Will look again in 3 years and if charging is available at service stations etc will certainly buy an EV, but likely to be the Audi Etron GT when released.
Merry Christmas and keep safe in these uncertain times.
Robert, can you feed back on the Ionity upping the price on chargers to be almost the same as filling up with unleaded. i am interested to understand the tariffs involved when charging a non tesla on a longer journey. great vid, love the channel and i am a petrol head 😀
We MAY be at another watershed in battery technology very shortly and a step change in charging and range may happen. There are some very promising developments.
Another excellent video.
So what charging speed did you top out at?
Very nice, I still find it ridiculous that EVs charge at less the 250kWh, less time charging is always needed on longer trip.
Always interesting and very entertaining !! Thank you
*QUESTION FOR PORSCHE:* Why is it called a 'Porsche Taycan Turbo', when there is no turbo? It's an electric vehicle.
In the Porsche world “turbo” denotes the top of the range...
Simpletons point out it doesn’t have a “turbo”
Good point on off-street re-fuelling. I live in Wembley in a 1930s house. No off-street parking. I can see type 2 chargers being rolled-out on-street but not high-speed chargers. The ability to take an EV somewhere, fully fuel it in say 15 mins would be ideal. With top-up where I live...
Presumably you can charge it over night?
Great review. And great video to watch.
Actually, Porsche was the first to build a EV-SUV - at the beginning of the 20th century, the Lohner Porsche had hubmotors on each wheel. A later version was the fitrst hybrid vehicle, sporting a ICE and EV drive.