Tesla Model S LR Raven range test
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I love that sheeeeet. If I park in the middle of the Simpson Desert I swear someone would come and park next to me !
They absolutely would, I live in Scotland and people behave in the exact same way. I have never figured out why.
Bjorn you rock. I’ve owned a Tesla ~60k miles and 2-1/2 years because of your towing videos. Thank you so much! (Love the car!) sorry but my 80+ yr old neighbor got the referral because he gave me a test ride in his Model X. We tow our little trailer all over Oregon!
The only credible efficiency test for EVs. This is now DIN Bjorn. Your consistency in testing is appreciated and your credibility is hard earned........a lot of km travelled. I run a Model S P85 6 years old 100,000 UK miles still superb range and performance balance, coupled to supercharger network a totally credible car / fuelling system, has been since day 1 will be in 10 years time, great value and fun.
DIN Bjorn :D
What's the battery SoH on yours at 6 yrs / 100k Graham ?
That's the car I'm aiming at for my next christmas lol.
Probably a 2014 too, not sure if features are still good today, like it will maybe not have adaptative cruise control and lane assist :(
So I have the Toyota Corolla Hybrid 2020 on plan B.
I'm interested in knowing your average range etc... too :)
DIN = Deutsches Institut für Normung = German Institute for Standardization. So being a positive attitude Norwegian with German language skills it would be NIN-JA. Bjørn is setting NINJA standards ( banana boxes etc....).
@@mikerhinos 2014 has Autosteer and adaptive Cruise. But also MCU1 with memory issues and door handle micro switch problems. From 2018 onwards less problems.
The lady just stopped to admire Bjørn's perfect Audi/Tesla-style parking. Nose in, taking up 2 spots. Nicely done!
But what you didn't know is that the "extra spot" I was taking is not a spot at all. If you watched the live stream you would understand more.
Bjørn Nyland Don’t ruin my funny post with facts, please.
Good job he did because she opened the door wide enough. I was waiting for the dent. Likely he parks into the buffer space from experience.
294 miles at 75 mph and 400 miles at 55 mph is crazy good. People knock Tesla, but they make efficient cars.
75 mph is where its at imo. Doing 55 mph is too slow and it would take forever to get anywhere (anywhere over 70 miles away that is).
You missed the point of the 90 km/h test. It's to simulate city/slower highways. Remember that there's no four lane 120 km/h motorway all the way to your home or to your cabin. lol
Bjørn Nyland I think that is the difference more between countries. In UK we have two or three lanes at up to 40 mph but then motorway is up to 70 mph with occasional 50 mph average speed zone for road works. So long road trips will often be at 70 mph. That’s why for some of us the 120 km/h test is more relevant for long term ownership.
In the last 4 or 5 years that I've travelled to the UK I have never not seen a motorway that wasn't restricted with variable speed zones 60-40 mph (M25) or average speed checks 50 mph (M4, M20, M26 - listed in order of frequency), so I would say he's not far wrong for UK conditions either. I think the M5 was one of the few that I could consistently travel full motorway speed (traffic depending) and possibly also the 42 & 40 but I don't travel the full length of these.
@@rogerstarkey5390 I agree, for me it had the best mix of value, fun, range, and availability.
Great video as always ! Love my old model S -the efficiency even at 80-95 mph is still AMAZING-
Two questions:
a. why is Google map distance more reliable than Tesla odometer distance?
(your Tesla did turn-around, changed lanes, side tripped at least (2) times)
b. predict when Model S Plaid Long Range & what's its range?
Most cars I test are +/- 1 %. The worst was I-Pace at -2.7 %. This is normal due to different wheel size, tire pressure, etc.
Nice more km driving to the south of France in 2 stops. Good work from Elon. Nice video Björn.
Thanks Bjørn! You mention temperature, I wonder if you ever looked into air pressure as well? Guess it affects air density as much as temperature, so it might be significant. I heard speed skaters hope for storms and low pressures to skate faster on a given indoor track.
What I mean is, I've seen barometric pressure vary from 970 to 1035 hPa (at sea level) due to weather, which is equivalent to several hundred meters in altitude variation (12 hPa per hundred meters).
I think I have figured it out why people allways park next to you when the whole lot is empty. I think they are like the parking assitant - they need your car as a reference.... otherwise they would over shoot the parking space. Good that Björn "Porsche parked" so there was enough space for that person to open passenger door. :P
Excellent video, what a super car. Only wish I could afford one!!
PS Hope you didn't snitch any of Magne's buns?
Kan du gjøre 1000 km challenge med den bilen?
Nope
@@bjornnyland Koenigsegg Kronig Chrstian van Sweden!
Not sure how many people will, in reality, drive this distance at 20kph less than the speed limit. I'd like to see the range tests done at the speed limit for a more realistic result. If I were to buy a Model S I'd drive it around the speed limit, not 20kph lower. Edit** I once went to watch a film at the cinema where I was the only one in there at the start of the movie. Then a couple came into the threater and sat directly behind me... and talked through the movie... wtf??
This test is to simulate mixed driving (city+highway). I also do 120 km/h tests. You should check out my videos and don't forget to subscribe. Welcome to my channel.
You need an updatet test of the X, it is a VERY old version i the scheme...
No, it's not. It was Raven Model X. Quite new one.
@@bjornnyland It said X90D... Do you have all the files somewhere, banabox capacity, range and so on?
one question: all long range ravens have this amazing range? or has there been a a hardware improvement recently? i bought mine 12/2019 with a range of 610 km. thanks for this video!
Elon said the improvements were pushed out as they were ready.
Your car would be close to full range with a late 2019 build
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Who doesn't like to eat a dirty sausage.
Looks good.
Going 91km/h does not count drive 100 km/h for proper test .
If i am not wrong, the model S it isn't compatible with supercharger v3. Am i?
It can charge on supercharger v3, but in Europe the max power is about 133 kW via the CCS adapter. In USA, they get about 185 kW or more.
Great to ride with you - 644 km in 19 minutes!
over 2000km/hour!!! 😲
and zero jet-lag effect 😆
Lol
LOL, I hate when folks park next to me also when I park AWAY from everyone else . :(
i have a suggestion. ignore it. life too short to sweat the small stuff.
And the folks how should to know why you parking alone? Maybe folks think you parking long and everyone else went away next from you.
@Richard Nedbalek Yes! That is why I don't mind when someone does it to me or when I join someone in parking away from others. I care so they must too.
Ah, like in the urinals.
i thought that just happens to me, i parked right out of the way ,when i came back to the car the other person parked so close my wife could not open the door, i went mad,shouting and cursing, when i looked round the guy who parked next to mine was standing looking at the floor and apologetic ,bet he didst do that again,,,
BJOOOOOOOOOOOORN! I dont really understand what makes your videos so captivating but I really enjoy them. Thank you for your content and hard work. One day maybe I too I will have a tesla! Good shit
Consistency, fairness, enthusiasm, good English also fun and many more.
Right amount of technical depth and clearly explanation for average person.
Amazing. Very curious what battery day will bring. I picked up a 2020 Chevy Bolt and love it. 100% the right car for me for the next 3-5 years but looking forward to the CyberTruck being my "forever" vehicle.
P.S. - I know, I know - keeping a car for 5 years isn't a _great_ investment but I'm voting with my dollars and I got a great deal.
Ari, if the numbers add up for you, you did the right thing. That's all that matters.
Enjoy your new car!
owning ANY car for a long period of time is a bad investment.. but all electric cars, are a great investment - especially if you pay it off... very low maintenance, and extremely low energy cost. I pay $30 a month on my electric bill to drive 1,000 miles.
I kept staring at the hot dog you where eating. That looks so DELICIOUS!!!
14:30 Model 3 Performance Raven :)
Tire resistance in rain. I was driving in a slightly downsloping tunnel (the last one before reaching Yantian in Shenzhen) and switched on neutral, the car was rolling down at 80km/h, then came out of the tunnel on to the wet road (but no rain) where the downgrade got steeper, and the car started slowing down. I never really thought about how much resistance the rain causes but even the wet road is affecting that much, wow.
When it's actually raining (instead of just wet road) it's even worse
Most important part of the video. The human needed a break after ~5 hours or ~400 km. Any car with >500km range is absolutely sufficient. Especially one with >150kW charging capability. Only a matter of time before this range filters down to the ~$30,000 price range. At that point, bye bye internal combustion.
Agree, but in Russia very cold winter, so more range will be perfect
With normal driving around hat mor common highway speeds the range will be half. So a bigger battery would still be great. 90km/h is not really relevant outside of Norway.
@@mistermaxwell Not half the range in Tesla, but sure if you hammer it well over 120kmh it will drop. Of course, even on autobahn, construction, congestion are very common so average is not that high... Winter temp have small effect if you drive longer...(battery and drivetrain eventually heat up...)
Bye bye internal combustion when you can drive 500 km with 120 km/h speed during winter... (based on my personal preference living in Sweden 😁)
@@ambessashield9360 A bit of honesty helps in life. Please go ahead and document a trip where you go 500km without stopping for the toilet or food.
It's very exciting, but not realistic to drive 90 km/h on the motorway. This is the tempo of the kamion. The allowed speed is 130 km/h in the most european countries. So, i think many people would be curious what is the real range at speed of 140-160 km/h. There was an other test where a Tesla S model (100 kW/h) could go a little over 300 km range at speed of 130 km/h.
Watch the whole video...
Mr Contrapunct, totaly agree with you. And i watched whole video.
The Model 3 SR+ gets incredible efficiency (less than 100 wh/km or ~160wh/mi). Probably the most efficient Tesla out b/c of the smaller battery pack and single motor! Great test of Raven update!
Insane range! “Bladder-killer” 😅
That's good for the prostate 😂
well 600km is about my bladder limit, my diesel car has 1500km range on a tank for these driving conditions but there is no way I can last 1500km, actually I don't like to drive 1500 in a day. 600km is a good point to stop, plug the car in and have a rest.
@@daveamies5031 It's not really about distance though, is it? If you drive 15% above the speed limit your bladder range is extended equally, right? My bladder/comfort range is roughly 3 hours unless I'm pulling a final stretch. I don't average 200km/h anywhere but I suppose you could at 4 am on the Authobahn. Each to their own, but do remember to hydrate.
@@Muskar2 😂😂😂yes you are right around here most inter-city roads are 100km/h with a few rare 110 sections, as it's ~900-1000km between cities and the 80 and 90 sections are more common than the 110 the average is ~90-100 so 100km is roughly equal 1hr. Typically you will pass several fixed and mobile speed cameras an hour so if you speed you won't have a license long. I once passed 13 speed cameras in a hour, 1-13km over the limit would cost me 1 point, but we only get 12, so if I was speeding that day I would have lost my license in less than an hour, not worth the risk.
@@Muskar2 Sure would get ugly fast if an animal got curious and jumped in front of you.
91 kph = 56 miles per hour to achieve 400 miles range.
And at 120 kph = 74 mph gives 293 miles of range.
Shahbaz Fawbush Yikes 😬😳😱
I was thinking the same thing who drives 56mph
and of course electrek took this and talked it down. 90kmh blabla not real world conditions..
Damn, even those guys didn't watch the whole video.
Still remains a benchmark after all these years. Elon said EPA messed up the test by leaving the car on overnight. This may be the first production 400 mile EV.
@@rogerstarkey5390 If they didn't do the test, they didn't leave it "on" either.
@@heinim7691 OEMs do test but EPA confirms the findings by running its own test on standard lab equipment.
This is the result when you design an EV from the ground up rather than a generic platform to allow for HEV and PHEV variants as well as BEV.
Tom Moger Tesla’s designs are very traditional - there are even space enough for a fossil-motor under that hood.
etron and ipace CLAIM to also be that, but i'm sure it's not actually 100%.
@@71kimg The front compartment is for crash saefty. Without it the car would be very dangerous in a head on crash. (and even look stupid with such a short front end)
The Ioniq is a "conversion" vehicle or at least a shared platform, and it's also extremely efficient. Aerodynamics is the key, not the EV platform.
Herra Turhapuro it’s also designed to look like a attractive car - which were some of Elon musks early complains about the past EV’s
Let's not forget that Tesla also has the FSD computer running pretty much all the time (in shadow mode), which also does consume some power. Other cars don't have it yet.
If it consumes 100 W, at 90 km/h it will add:
100 W / 90 km/h = 1.1 Wh/km
That's pretty insignificant if you ask me.
@@bjornnyland Thanks for the clarification. I was not aware that it consumes only 100W.
Actually, it is even less than that: Running the full software stack, the FSD computer dissipates 72 Watts.
Still the king after all these years. Imagine the improvements with the newer batteries!
Roger Starkey No, he doesn‘t. 😉
@@rogerstarkey5390 Mr Tesla fanboy, as a Porsche fan I'm not upset at all. This test proved that Porsche did a great job.
@@Geilegarnele the 2170?
@@Geilegarnele nope. Battery architecture/release is from 2016. It is still on 18650
DownSync however the efficiency of Porsche EVs still have a lot of room for improvements lol
pilot sport 4 aren't even the most efficient right? Those only come on the performance model in canada
I wonder if Tesla will fit a 200 kWh battery in the Model S later on as they're supposed to fit a battery that large in the smaller (?) Roadster.
Right now they have a limited battery supply, so probably not in the short term. Expect more effort to make the cars more efficient.
I have the exactly same car but grey. When driving 500KM between Goteborg and Stockholm i always have to charge atleast once... The worst enemy to range is how fast it is and how fun it is to overtake other cars :)
Oh man, the plaid will be a monster!
It will be one thing for sure sure sure. It’ll light a fire under the competition.
5 nein nein nein 🤣
Nice another Bjørn Video before sleep😄
Wow, efficiency for the win! 😄
Thanks for the Video👍
Thanks for a very informative video. This definitely points me to a LR+. Your other videos on the interior styling on the S are very helpful too.
About to buy a slightly used 2019 Model S (w/Raven upgrade) privately, time can't move fast enough!
9:40: Helga exiting non-german vehicle whilst blue car has been parked Ninja-style.
Please explain
Also, ensure the car door opens to its maximum .
@@icrafterchips Which part needs explaining? Helga and Ninja are Bjørn thingies.
Really impressive! Chapeau! 🥳
So basically if you want a car that youll drive like a grandma just for specs then this is good, if not wait for the next one
So basically you didn't watch the whole video...
Roadster will be a killer..., let porche make a $70k tycan
Hey Bjorne! I’ll help you with that “empty-parking” phenomenon. When you see an empty parking space. Park at the very edge of it and not the center. That way, instinctively, the next driver will park one space over or farther from you.
Longest range EV....... IN THE WORLD.
Surely you know that at low speed the contribution of rolling resistance is more important and that at high speed the aerodinamyc takes the importance. So, based on your test, can we assume that model s aerodinamyc is better than taycan?
Hard to say unless we have Taycan with same wheels as Tesla. So far Taycans tested have wider tires.
@@bjornnyland yeah, but, as far as I know, tyres influence only rolling resistance and not aerodynamics. But, for sure, we are waiting a test of taycan with smaller rims
Giacomo David Of course. Aerodynamics and rolling resistance. The rear tyres of the Taycan are 4 cm wider each site.
Normally American cars sucks on mpg compared to European cars. I'm taking ice here.
Amazing Tesla is turning the tables here.
90 km/h :| ah, that’s too slow. This is not real range test.
What about 120km/h at the end of video?
Watch the whole video...
facepalm
I did a short drive in my Model 3 a couple of days ago and over 12.78 miles managed 192Wh/M or 119Wh/Km which I thought was fantastic.
Again Tesla, it was time!!! 🤩🤩
Thanks to all the tesla team for making it possible. (Big up tesla work force)
What microphone are you using? I need a bluetooth microphone.
In a country where studded tires are forbidden the result would be even better. After winter the tarmac is rough.
Correct.
Man I wish mine could reasonably get anywhere close to this. I have the same vehicle, but it's so hot here that the AC pretty much eats any range efficiency I try to get. In fairness I do not use range mode but even when I tried it wasn't this good. Thankfully i do not require anywhere near this range, I only charge the car 1-2x per week and it's usually well above 40% when I start to charge. Either way cool test!
My compact 4 cil petrol car, on the best possible scenario maybe could get 500km of range..
Tesla is truly next gen, and its just the beggining..
My honda civic has a 400 mile range and I can refuel in 2 minutes . Also the price new was less than 18000 USD.
@@micahrich5683 The price of every km in electricity compared to gas is also better, electric is fas superior to petrol in real world aplications..
@@luisar5755 Don't get me wrong. I love electric cars and I plan to buy one in the future if I live long enough. Dollar for dollar not the most cost effective choice for me yet.
@@micahrich5683 So for your location, a Model 3 doesn't beat the TCO of a Honda Civic after 4-5 years of ownership?
Congratulations Bjorn. Fantastic result. Thank you for your time and effort.
Very impressive ! Thank you Bjorn
Love ya Bjørn keep churning out the vids, i watch them all!
I thought 19 inch wheels were less efficient than 18 inch?
18" wheels on Model S is not common. I don't even know if it fits.
You are so right about finding an empty space for you and the next person has to Park right next to you that is so true 😂😂😂😂😂
Hi! Impressive low consumption for the Model S.
Btw. Wrong wheel size in the table for the Taycan. It should be 245/45-20 at the front axle and 285/40-20 at the rear axle.
I haven't added a separate column for rear wheels.
144wh is. what does Model3 have?
Matthias Fritz What has the Model 3 to do with the Taycan?
Bjørn Nyland That‘s ok. I think it‘s an important information. But it‘s on you. 👍
Awesome looking and performing car. I wish the headrests in rear seats were removable. Here ,too bulky, too big, obscuring view, just redundant.
CabrioDriving Also the seatbelt attachment on the B pillar is not adjustable for us shorter folk. 🤨🤬
What color is the car's upholstery? It has a sort of greenish tint in the early part of the video, but I suspect that is from the windshield tint.
What if you drive 80km/h,do you get +700km?
Probably.
It's already this good... Just think what's around the corner!!! Good shieeeet!
I'm hoping for a 100 kWh rwd Model 3, just because it would have such insane range and charging speed (useful for those living in skycaves or having frequent long trips).
in a few years 600-800km range will be standard. Think about it. Range issues will be the worry of the past
@@johnair1 It would be ok if i can drive 130-140 km/h on autobahn, and do 800 km like many diesel cars can. They can do even close to 1000 km on that speeds in one go. I don't want to drive 90 km/h for 600 km. The day when electric cars with high capacity batteries would do 800 km at 130 km/h, and 1000 km+ at 90 km/h it would be great choice. Today many ev's can't do 400 km at 130 km/h, more like at max 300 km. If i don't include expensive tesla's.
@@ron999 What is the point in driving 6 hours non stop without a single stop?
@@ron999 Very very few people drive 800kms in one go. Come on.
@@sv650nyc7 Stopping every hour for 10 minutes is depressing. I like to stop when I want not every freaking hour. I'll stop when I need to eat or piss or shit or something like every 2-3 hours but if you have to do a 1000-2000 KM trip and drive at 90KM/h and also stop every hour then it will take you at least three days to do it. I drove from Denmark (Aalborg) to Romania (Zalau) about 2000 KM in about 26-27 hours with a 4 hour break for sleeping. Average speed was 140KM/h with highest speed being 210KM/h in Germany for like an hour or so.
Its now official, Tesla Model S hammering the 400 mile mark: www.tesla.com/de_DE/blog/model-s-long-range-plus-building-first-400-mile-electric-vehicle?redirect=no
Oh, yeah. Trying to use the buss lane here! Classic Bjørn
Question for Bjørn: Is the 2 speed gearbox of the Taycan really worth it?
2 gear for only very High speed, but 3 motors will be more better than 2 gear
hirosima1984 Sorry, you are wrong. The Taycan almost always uses the second gear. The first gear is for kick down and launch control only.
@@rogerstarkey5390 Probably getting complicated with complexity to get it to corner better. Weight is your enemy on race track(Taycan is not immune to that with 2.4t!!!) so its really complex to overcome that burden. Maybe engineers started using composite materials, too much body work, huge thermal improvements to drive train, etc... Elon wants it more simple, more "computer gain" on track, utilizing only motor power and torque... Just assumption of course... I`m not sure Tesla should spend a lot of time and money on Plaid... Let others do that and focus on growth and scale of production...
@@DG-uv3zw Giga casting will could help cancel out the weight of the extra motor
Drove. During the winter 2018 on my way to Amsterdam , visit the Tesla HQ, the Model S to Zero. Unfortunately , the Dealership at the TESLA HQ refused to let me charge the car! For costumers only!! What a asshole, he sent me to an another supercharger 7Km away. I made it -!: reached the charger with I don’t know how much minus ZERO! It was -10degree Celsius and a little nervous but made it! They told me it has enough reserve, but it is not necessary with an TESLA to drive it empty. Range is great(!) and supercharger everywhere!
wish the model s had 250kw charging speed
Bjørn! Please do a charging test of the MS raven on the new V3 chargers 😁
Not possible. V3 CCS only. You need CCS-Adapter.
Same speed as on supercharger v3.
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@@bjornnyland Csn you try the same test with a car affected by #chargegate and #batterygate?
Should I get a used 2019 pre-raven or more expensive used 2020 raven. Is it worth it or not? Plan to drive on long trips through Europe during summertime and commute to work and back here in Norway.
you should try E-tron 55 sportback see if there is any improvment :)
I’ve been waiting for this video since February
About the parking, personally I think if I could park on Mars some person would park right next to me. It's like they think they're either missing out on something, incapable of individual thought, or like in online games "griefing". Sooo annoying!
Yeah...but which Taycan buyer will put small/aerodynamic wheels on their car? Not a single one. Whereas fror the Tesla i can actually see that happening because it's a 'sensible' car (by comparison).
i love you too man you are really awesome i just said in the comments box to make long range test and you did 💯❤❤❤❤❤✌✌
I get 230kw/km at 120km/h on my 2016 S90D with the roof rack. Anybody would have other data with the roof rack installed? Bjorn, do you have data for a an S90D at 120km/h, without rack?
Is "Raven" an official name or a youtuber asspull like "Highland"?
Park next to the nice car, so if a burglar wants to rob a car they will pick the nice car!
I think it's super-impressive numbers.
Yes! No sure why people park next to a Tesla when there are other parking spots.. i guess because they know you will be careful opening your doors
Amazing car, amazing tech!
Offtopic: Bjørn, will you go to the Fully Charged Show 2021 in Amsterdam. I know you know eachother (vid a year(?) back).
Nope
Can you specify both front and rear tire sizes?
I believe the Taycan 4S is 245/285 in 20" rim.
Tire width and rim size is one of the major factor for the range.
Thanks for the great videos.
Great test, great car. Model S looks really nice in blue with these wheels.
for BMW IX50 , when you will be able to make a range test ? :)
Nice review on the Model S P100D Raven! The car’s range is awesome!!! Thanks!
And this is a car produced since 2012/13. Wait for the new Model S with 1000km. Yeah!
He said it's the new Raven model.
I'm very, very impressed.
So, just translating to units I’m used to, 144 Wh/Km looks like around 4.3 miles per KWh. Just FWIW, that’s comparable with our Prius Prime, which is considerably smaller and lighter.
Welcome back Bjørn!! Keep safe you and wifey!!
:D plz now time for Model X LR raven
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The Norwegian highway are quite small or narrow and lots of turns. Also you are only going 90 km/h, it really doesn't simulate 'normal' conditions, in my opinion! ;) 110 km/h would have been more realistic!
Watch the whole video...
Great testing! Keep it up!