Best BIG OLED TV in 2022!?! LG C2 evo Review! 83 inch OLED
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► 83 INCH OLED - LG C2 EVO REVIEW
00:00 LG C2 REVIEW
00:11 LG C2 EVO OLED SPECS
01:44 ARE LG OLED TVS GOOD?
03:40 BEST SETTINGS FOR LG OLED TVS
04:07 IS THE LG C2 EVO OLED THE BEST TV?
06:48 GAMING ON BIG OLED TVS
07:16 OLED TVS FOR HOME THEATER
07:59 PROBLEMS WITH LG TVS
08:53 LG OLED COLOR UNIFORMITY
09:25 LG VS SAMSUNG TV (S95B)
09:45 LG VS SONY TV (A95K + A90J)
10:11 LG C2 VS SONY X95J
10:35 CONCLUSION
11:14 KRISTI'S TAKE
11:49 TV CALIBRATION
14:41 WHY WE DON'T SHARE TV SETTINGS
18:01 KRISTI'S BEST TVS
21:55 SIGN OFF
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Hey Andrew. If you would like to have a conversation sometime on calibration and I can go over some tips with you, let me know. You can message me on Twitter or my email.
Hi Andrew thanks for the video. How high from the ground did you mount the tv?
Thank you guys. I basically smiled all through this video. And then, I smiled again.
Can’t wait for your QD-Oled reviews 👍
I never care for TV reviews, but somehow you guys make them so interesting. Thanks for telling a story and not just a review!
Glad you like them!
I bought this tv and for some reason I cannot use it’s arc output for my Yamaha vx-683 . On my previous lg tv never had a problem with arc .
Did you get a chance to pair the c2 with a av received that works?
Have any picture settings for the C2?
Andrew , do you have a video going through the calibration for the c2 step by step ?
Thanks for the in depth review. I appreciate the issue of giving us your calibration settings. Are you able to create a step by step video to teach us how to calibrate a tv diy style I like learning things and would spend the money to do it if I know what I’m doing and it isn’t ridiculous cost
The shout out to The Orville was the best part, Thanks Drew!
I recently purchased the LG C2 65 inch. And yep your comments on out of the box also apply to the 65 inch. But like you say engage filmmaker mode and then tweak from there and you have an absolute monster of a picture. Superb TV
Or you give us the settings you use and we can go from there?
It's best said that if you play with the settings and have the tv calibrated to how you like to look at images displayed that would be the best recommendation to go with.
I agree. I almost bought the 77” c2 yesterday so I was doing some extra research on it and love this guys videos but don’t see anyone really doing detailed calibrator settings on specific TVs and always wished they would. With CES so close though I decided to hold off in case something incredible is around the corner or the TV gets cheaper after CES but would still like to see tv people on TH-cam making more settings videos to help people and ease the burden of going through the settings struggle.
@@nuke_looter5174 I brought the c2 65" it's amazing for everything Films & Gaming
@@nuke_looter5174 I recently purchased the LG C2 77 inch and its a fantastic panel bear in mind every tv has its pros and cons and pros on this model outweighs the cons. The high quality image clarity and colors are spot on for me in my opinion. Some of the brightness settings can be calibrated to provide a nice bright image. I was in between chosing the Smasung S95b and the LG C2 and the amount of features overall quality image LG C2 has convinced me more than enough to make it my preferred choice.
Hi Andrew, very nice and informative video. I have a Epson FHD Projector in my living room projecting on a 100 inch screen. I am thinking to replace the projector with this 83 inch LG C2. Do you think that would be a good choice ? Thanks
Pardon if this question has been posed before, but on an older LED TV such as Vizio D series, would you opine whether a professional calibration (local charges listed at approx $300 CDN) could forestall the need to upgrade to a newer display? My current 65” is probably 5years(?) old - viewing distance is 10ft - and I’m trying to justify waiting until later this fall/Christmas season to either size up/ move to newer OLED / miniLED display, or both.
Installed a 75” Sony X series for my son a few months ago, and out of the box it far surpasses the Vizio, but of course cost “a few dollars more”
Hello. Please tell me what is better to buy Sony 65A80J vs Sony 55A90J..? Or another version of Sony 65A80J vs LG 65 C2..? Thanks
Great review! Nice tv unit you have there, where was it purchased from? Thanks!
So where I am the c2 cos the same as the same size qn900b you reviewed earlier. After seeing ur reviews I suppose going with the qn900b would the right choice? 🤔
A 5 second search on TH-cam reveals several videos of people calibrating the C2 showing step by step. Why should it be so difficult to follow these steps to get the best results? Perhaps I am over simplifying? What am I missing?
Another amazing review, Andrew and Kristi. Thanks. What tools do you use for video calibration?
Hi John, Thanks for tuning in! You'll find that information in the description box just below the video's title.
Are you guys able to recommend any calibration tools that are available to the consumer? Would a spider monitor calibration tool work? or something similar?
I’m new in OLEDs, I just got a C2 77” and I added an Apple TV 4K, the best combination ever, WebOS sucks and the “magic” remote is not ergonomic at all, on the other hand side, Siri Remote is light years forward. I love this combination LG.C2+AppleTV4K!!
I have owned a C9 for years and absolutely love it. I also own proper calibration tools and software to make the necessary changes so I recently purchased this and can’t wait to see what I can do with it, especially with Calman’s LG autocal feature.
Is the 83inch C2 also EX or is it only 55,65,77?
I saw the LG TV today - it looks REAL - I took a picture off the screen it was AMAZING - I agree with you - #1 TV 2022
This is a good point on calibration….most of us, me included do not have access to a calibrator. I live in the U.K. and as such I’m fortunate enough to still be able to buy Panasonic TVs. I’ve just ordered a 65” Panasonic LZ2000.
That TV was on a shortlist of two along with the Sony A95K - what I will say is that the Panasonic had the best, most natural out of the box picture I’ve ever seen on a TV, it’s a fantastic set. The Sony had some great attributes but at £700 more for the same size, it just wasn’t worth the extra cost….
Excellent review. Thanks.
where did you get ur tv stand from?
Hey guys, Hope all is well in your new home. Looks fantastic! I stream only TV, sports and movies. I use Apple TV 4K and am not a gamer (old guy). I'm considering the 42" LG C2 (899 at Best Buy today) and Sony Bravia XRA90K 1149 at Best Buy today). I only have room for 42" and there are not many choices anymore. I'm leaning towards the Sony as the room is brighter during the day with glare in the afternoon. Is either a better choice? Thanks, David
I ha e one in the garage and I love it when I’m working on a car and I can glimpse over and watch tv while I work on my projects
Lovely tv, and eying it as price gone down, but as this will be viewed close by around 2.5 meter away in a small room for both regular tv but with the occasional large movie which is why I want a massive screen, so was wondering if you can use a zoom smaller feature without losing quality on this set for when you want a smaller screen experience things such as watching news? If not is there any very large tv makes that do have a quick one or two click change to minimise to a smaller screen setting on the tv without losing quality? Hope you understand what I mean :)
Earned yourself a new Sub. I truly, truly , truuuly appreciate how honest and forthright you are with the review. Thanks Andrew and team.
Welcome!
Thanks for the review! C2 is my top choice since I own a Beosound Stage. They could be paired and controlled by the Beoremote. But the review about not being accurate out of the box makes me hesitate. For calibration, how about using the apple tv 4k to do it? Would it work?
Does sony A95K have grey bars vs Lg G2 black bars?
Always love your reviews! C2 Looks awesome however, in a perfect world a comparison between a 83" a90j and the 83' c2. will have been a great one.
I get why you don't share the calibration settings (you explained it well) but do you have a link or video on how to calibrate it for those with the patience and potential capability to calibrate it? Also this review was awesome, thank you!
Thanks for the review, and thanks for turning me on to your brothers channel!
I love the day after tomorrow sample lol
An oldie but goodie.
Great great review Andrew of the C2. What's funny is that everyone that I have talked to that own's this tv has never had a complaint of how the tv look's out of the box, never. And I do know that out of the box the C1 looked great as well so I don't really know what the deal was with your C2 but it is a great tv from LG. Now would I replace my C1 with it? No because my C1 has been fully calibrated and it checks ALL the boxes for what I have wanted in a tv. I dont care about QD OLED's and none of that sales pitch stuff. I am set. That being said. Again great review and as always loved Kristys take as well. Keep up the great work.
I recommend using the quick access shortcuts. It saves you dealing with the ads and sluggishness of the home screen.
Also, I don't understand why people complain about brightness. I find myself turning down the brightness most of the time on my Evo panel.
Great breakdown. I am still hanging on to my Quantum X 75 for now, but tempting. I recentlu shopped calibration at my local best buy and it wasnt available. I live in So Cal so that is a worry for even me let alone someone in the sticks.
It would be awesome if you could share a video talking about what to look for when manually calibrating a panel.
Another thing worth mentioning (having a C2 77") is the lack of DTS support. It can't even passthrough DTS, which is very, very important.
What software, program, or equipment would you suggest for someone who wants to try calibration on their own for their own personal TV’s and displays. I havent found any professionals in my area that offer such service. But id like to get the best out of my TV
You'll find the tools Andrew uses in the desx beneath the video.
I just got this TV for 2100$ open box. Awesome deal.
Love your reviews. Especially the bonus conversation, lucky you have a wife interested in this my friend!
Hopefully you guys get to review the G2. Your reviews are great and would like to see if the price difference is worth it at 77 inches and bigger. Great Channel both of you!
Did LG fix the issue of the dimming brightness as you watch for a few hours? Or do you still need to turn that off in the maintenance menus but voids the warranty? Thanks
This is addressed in the review and we do not recommend going into service menus or voiding warranties.
Well said and spot on Kristi! 🙂
Happy happy joy joy!! You guys did an LG OLED review!!! I have the 55” LG C1 and a 65” Sony A80J. I picked up the Sony 2 months ago for $.1599. My living room is smaller (as is my budget limit) than your room so if works for me. Neither are calibrated but I searched many hours on each for the best out of the. Box settings I could find. I agree with you that both would probably be better with calibration but like you said those that can do it are far and few between. Value Electronics out of NY will do it for you before shipping but I really don’t like getting an OLED off a truck. Just me. I also agree with you both that A: these higher level TV’s should be set closer to calibrated at the manufacturer or B: have the same calibration tools that the ones who currently use a smart phone to calibrate them. Again thanks for the LG OLED review!! Andrew and Kristi if you are ever in PA bring your equipment and calibrate the hell out of my 2 OLEDs!!! LOL.
You can calibrate it yourself if you are game. Links to tools are in the desx!
Great reviews ! Today LG C2 83" cost about 5000€ plus the calibrator costs and Sony x95j 85" about 3000€ plug and play . So is it truly worth it to pay 2000€ more for the LG ?.
Can you list the C2 settings you ended up going with? I just bought a 77" C2 and want to calibrate it to see what you came up with.
We do not share our calibration settings because they are highly unlikely to translate to your own TV and may even result in a worse looking picture. There are simply too many variations between panels for this to work.
On the topic of calibration, do you recommend someone in the greater Austin area? I have been wanting to calibrate my displays for awhile now
Sorry, I don't know any calibrators. Kristi links to the tools I use in the description if you want to give it a go yourself.
Great review! I’m in the market for a new TV. Was leaning towards the G2 77 but now you have me thinking about the C2
They should be relatively close in performance. It is my understanding the G2 has some added lifestyle features and a bit of added brightness, but I could be missing some details so please consult with the LG product pages.
Thanks! I have a 77 inch C2 arriving in a few days which I was planning to to calibrate from the outset! Now I truly know that it has to be my first priority once the wrapping is shed. 👍🏾🙏🏾
I recently calibrated the 65" C2 and was actually really impressed by the results. I definitely think that the size is causing some of the issues you were seeing with the out of the box inaccuracies. I found that film maker tracked fairly close to delta error 3. But the end result of my calibration I was sitting around 850 nits in HDR. And my overall error was very close to the 1 mark.
That being said I'm still not fully sold on no burn in for OLED which is why I'd still stick with LED/QLED although the A90J is still maybe the best I've seen. Haven't gotten to play with the K-series or the QD-OLED yet.
Any pointers to some BASIC setttings to correct these out of the box flaws you guys mention over and over again? WE NEED HELP!!!
I bought a 86 inch LG Nano cell and hated it until I spent ages playing with it until I loved it. recently I bought a 75 inch OLED A1 and had the same reaction but this time knew it just had to be setup right. I didn't use any tools but both look absolutely amazing now. Everything you have said is just so true. btw Nothing is close to OLED for watching TV. Movies still work best with a projector.
What sub you using with the Concept 50?
You’ll find that in the description.
I totally agree with not telling your settings. As a colour-blind person, specially with red, i will certainly not see the tv same as you. Some people can ignore themselves about it & charge you about the « bad settings ». Thank you both for your videos & advices
I wonder if at this price a UST projector may be the way to go if someone is looking for a large image. You are trading off the blacks for peak brightness.
Any thoughts about doing more UST projectors? Or do you think they are not worth the cost or trade offs? Like room brightness and needing to pick the correct screen.
Unless you are in a completely light controlled room, no, I would not go with an UST. They cannot compete and in most cases once you factor in the screen, the projector not to mention finding something to put the projector on that isn't too tall, you don't really save much if any money.
Another great review, and I totally agree with not giving out your settings. Im in San Luis Obispo and earlier this year I was shopping for a new TV for my living room. I was torn between the 77A80J and the 77C1 panels and did get the chance to see both in person although they were in store mode at best buy.
From what I understand the Sony and the LG have the same panels that are made by LG but with a different processor and OS. The reason that I ended up with the Sony is that the LG C1 required calibration from almost every review I saw and I couldn't find a calibrator locally. Im betting that my Sony A80J could be better if I could find a calibrator locally, but it has some "precalibrated" modes out of the box that look really good to my untrained eyes.
You are correct in that LG makes Sony's panels. Based on our time with the A90J, I don't doubt the A80J is a great viewing experience!
Hi there. Could you share your calibration seeting when in Filmaker mode? thanks
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I have the77 inch C2. I bought it because it is pretty much a huge computer monitor for video games. Under 5ms input lag, 120hz, gsync.
Upgraded from X900E to X95J. Only to return the X95J when I got my hands on a C2. It is miles ahead. It also feels way smoother than the Sony. Not to say the X95J is anything near bad. It just might have some bad DSE, which the OLED does NOT. Thanks, great video btw! Keep it up!
Crazy days, watch both you and Kristy with enthusiasm and hand on heart with the passion that cinemaphiles can only have for all things "best".
HOWEVER I'm not standing at the cash register waiting to hand over my dollars. I am sitting focusing on my mobile, as most parents do, whilst my children of 12 and 14 dominate our Smart Sammy.
Translating the passion and knowledge you both instill in your subscribers to pick from some of the most amazing technology my generation will ever see, is "out of the box bonkers". In a perfect world we are like most families purchasing systems which should outlast most famiy pets. I don't hear of turnover or succession like both you and Kristy describe. If I'm lucky I might see one more TV in my life. So I have to kind of get it right for 15 years or so. Sometimes it might be easier to just watch you guys on our phones, wishing and dreaming.
Hey Andrew what would you suggest LG C2 77inch or the 83inch? Since the 83inch has the older panel.
I prefer the bigger panel size.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews thanks for responding, I too prefer a bigger panel size!
Great review. Correct me if I’m wrong but if you do an auto calibration on the LG aren’t the setting adjusted internally against the original factory settings? Meaning there are no settings to really give out anyway.
This LG does not have auto calibration but in the spirit of the question, when doing auto calibration on the Samsung we just reviewed, you can go into the menus and see the post calibration settings or figures which in theory would enable you to share them but they likely wouldn't be accurate for someone else.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews AutoCal through Calman with built in pattern generators. Still need the meter and software and a bit of knowledge but definitely something people can do on their own with a little patience. Unless of course LG didn't include it for this generation.
I love the C2. I absolutely love this tv to death I tested every HDR levels and had it calibrated myself and there are no words to describe how gorgeous the display level is for this tv. It takes a bit of time to set the levels of detail desired to your personal liking, but after you achieved getting the settings what you want this tv will definitely make you really happy knowing you made a great investment.
I had tested the Samsung S95B which also has a gorgeous display but I noticed that there were minor issues with washed out parts of brighter images, tearing and now with the latest firmware update the image quality has sort of downgraded a bit. There are cases with quality control issues of the tv being bent on the upper frame area.
Thanks for the insight. Did you find having it professionally calibrated made a big difference to picture quality?
@Icipher4 I had my panel calibrated on my own and to access the secret menu to change the color settings to bt2020 press and hold for 3 seconds on the remote settings button and highlight the picture setting and then highlight the select picture mode and go ahead and press the following code on the remote 1113111 and select where it says colorimetry and select bt2020 and the colors will look even better on your panel. Then you can calibrate the rest based on the content and source you are going to view.
LG sure does a lot of things right. I game with both consoles so the C2 or G2 would be a great fit but I’m wondering about the glare factor? In my basement H/T I watch mostly with the lights on and just can’t be sure how an OLED will perform in a bright room.
That’s looks like great TV. In January I upgraded my old Samsung to LG C1 65” and I love it…
That C1 was killer and (I believe) is still able to be purchased in some places. Thanks for sharing and for watching this morning!
Question for Andrew and Kristi regarding calibration. I am not gonna ask you for your settings. Specially, I am wondering if the difference in picture quality post calibration was enough of an improvement that you would recommend a professional calibration job for this TV? I have an option to get this done and wondering if it is truly money well spent, or if the C2 is good enough out of the box that some minor settings adjustments get you close enough. Seems like you addressed this to a degree in the video, but wondering what improvements the average consumer might notice. Appreciate your insight here.
Kristi to the rescue - 11:14
Out of curiosity (I’m looking at 83” only, it was a stipulation if I agreed to move away from projectors lol, wife does not want a projector) if looking at 83” and you’re looking at the C2, at this price category doesn’t it make sense to spend an extra grand and get LG’s flagship G2? We’re talking $5200 vs $6300.
made my eldery parents go for the 77g2, holy mother of god, i thought it would be good as i have the 65 a90j, but its on a other level, the c2 catches up to the a90j, but the g2 pushes oled to a completly new place and i love it.
Has beovision harmony the c2 or g2 panel? The new 83 inch i mean.
I do not know, that would be a question for B&O. Thanks for tuning in!
Thanks for the review. This TV (or the 42 inch version) is the top of my list for a gaming set up for my Xbox series x and PS5. Considering your comments about calibration, since I am unable to do it on my own, and not sure about 3rd party calibrators, is there alternative television out that's close in comparison with such a need for calibration?
We talk about this in the review. Start here: bit.ly/3HH3EcA, amzn.to/3biyRXu
@@KristiWright I meant any at the 42-inch size. It looks like the smallest the Samsung QN900 has is 65inch.
@@Boxkerp We honestly don't review TVs smaller than 65" but you might check these out to see if they fit your needs:
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Hi Andrew love your reviews they are fantastic!! My question is how would you rate the LG c2 vs the A90J? I’m looking at 65’.
Your question is answered in the video.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews but how is the C2 better than the A90J? Color accuracy? Upscaling? Motion?
Also is there a difference in performance from the 55’ to the 65’?
Chip quality/ processing speed etc?
Thanks for answering my questions
What about mini led? I think within reason that could b the best going forward. Don't o led go bad if you watch too much tv..TV... I'm waiting fir a great mini led. Maybe next yr I'm hoping. Any thoughts?
Not well versed on OLED, but I think the individual bulbs can burn in, and when that happens you basically have to get a new TV.
Ok I’m buy one next week 83in C2
Hey Andrew. I appreciate the video. Actually expecting mine to arrive tomorrow (albeit 55 inch as NYC apts aren't all that big lol). Nevertheless, I have heard yours and Kristi's complaint about the colors/configuration out of the box not being very good. I will be honest I am NOT very good at calibrating these TVs nor am I good about knowing what the "correct" options to set are. By any chance do you have a list where you've written down your suggested changes to the TV settings to make it pop like you say it can once settings are changed? Would gladly appreciate it! (Also FYI I will be using the newest Apple TV box with it) Thanks a lot
Well I finished watching and you said you don't give settings :( ah well
(sorry to disappoint) We don't share our settings because they likely will not translate to your panel. The "why not" is long and complicated and may not make sense in the long run to those not familiar with manufacturing tolerances and calibration procedures in general. That said, if you want the most accurate image from this display without calibration, my recommendation is to select either the movie or filmmaker profile. Then go into the picture menu and set the color temperature is set to Warm 1 or Warm 2. But if you want the image to "pop", put it in standard mode and use Warm 1. This will maximize brightness and curb the blue bias.
Also - check out our video "how to make any tv look better".
Hello so is it true that c2 83 inch has the older panel not as 77 inch?
Edge profile and bezel is different.
Nothing beats my LG Wallpaper TV...even my much newer OLED and Nano although the Nano is bright af
Is out of the Box the standard mode you are referencing?
I think it's an energy saving/eco mode but I don't have it hooked up at the moment. I'm pretty sure I state the profile name in the review if you want to give another watch. That's not something I would typically leave out.
Having the same c2 evo 83, need to research how to calibrate it, to love it more 😅
While watching football, how much motion blur trail do you see when the football is thrown on deep passes
Can you confirm that the LG 83 inch models are using last year’s panels and not what the rest of the size lineup is using? If so would you recommend waiting on an 83 inch or just grabbing a 77 inch now. I wanted to go 83 but the vertical banding and the suggestion of them using an older panel which limits the brightness is concerning.
I don't understand why reviewers are not making this known. the LG G2 77 is a fantastic option.. but if you want an 83.. it becomes complicated.. C2?? A90J?? or just accept the fact that you're over paying for the G2. Reviewers aren't touching this for some reason
Where you get the information from,
Hello Andrew, is it so important I calibrate my 77" C1? I ordered the TV just for normal usage to watch sports and any other programs on TV, I don't play video games I don't even know how to play video games. I just want a vividly clear and beautiful TV
If you like the image out of the box or find a profile you find pleasing, then no, you don't _have_ to get your TV calibrated. If you want to ensure you have the most accurate display and performance, then I would seek out a professional calibrator or do it yourself.
Good morning Andrew and Kristi. You love to see pricing getting more competitive and filling out size options in OLED. Also, I still can't stand LG remote/webOS. Add in the fact that calibration is mandatory just about kills it for me. I desperately want to see OLED be a better fit for average Joe's, I still think that we aren't quite there. Thanks for another solid, informative, and entertaining review. I especially appreciate the "don't share settings" segment.
Just get the Sony Oleds, they have the best out of the box accuracy, the A80k or the last year A80J or the A90J, way better than any LG oleds that suck out of the box… LG is not for the general consumers… personally, why would I pay extra for a calibrator after I have paid a hefty price for the tv itself?
It will be great if you could also share your settings for this TV.
I understand it will differ based on likings and external facotrs.
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Great job with this review. You voiced a complaint that I’ve had about LGs for awhile, which is poor out of the box calibration. If they could fix that, their TVs would be instant buys.
Being organic, I wonder how the picture will look in 7-8 years? Will the picture quality break down? I keep my TV’s for apx. 10 years, sometimes longer.
What is the TV stand/white furniture under the TV in this video?
Unfortunately, those units are no longer available, however you'll find similar options noted in the description.
I got my C1-77" about a month ago for a crazy good price, to replace my perfectly good working 14 yr old Panasonic plasma. I've had no regrets, love this OLED and
4K movies.... I originally wanted the Sony A80J-77", but the LG's price was lower by 1K & the LG was in stock, Sony wasnt!
Paired with my RZ50 in a 7.1.2 setup, Life is Good...
Hi there. I'm still watching a Plasma Panasonic 720p around 15 years old. No problems whatsoever. And the picture is awesome. No calibration needed. Now it is time to get a larger one, but honestly, I'm worried of spending so much money and ending up with a "Lemon". Looking for a C2 77". Can't find a C1 in Canada anymore. Are you happy with your C1, and is it a big improvement over the Plasma. Thank you.
Well I work in a tech store and I'm mainly in the TV area and whenever me and my coworkers tell the customers about our TV calibration service, they almost all reject it, because they find it useless or expensive (even if we suggest a discount).
Personally I don't like the calibrated profile, I prefer an oversaturated and bright (cool tone) image.
Well from what I know you can set your target white point during calibration but we don't give the option for the customer to decide.
My understanding is that the 2022 83” models (C2 and flagship G2) have last year’s 83” EVO panels and not this year’s EX panels. That’s why I am considering the 77” G2 for my next TV, and probably why your brightness/output level is not where it should be for the current model year. To answer today’s question, I still love my Panasonic Z-series plasma swan song. What a shame that tech could not be made for higher resolutions and still be financially viable. Even at 1080p I still get compliments on how beautiful it is when people see it thanks to its amazing native contrast, and NO motion artifacts while watching sports!
Andrew, Kristi, thanks for the great reviews, especially this one, and thanks for sharing the link to the professional level (and priced) Calman calibration setup you use.
I have an LG C7P 65" OLED which I really like but the price of a 77" like the C2 is much more sane now so I thought I'd upgrade mainly for the size increase.
My C7P certainly did take some dialing in and seeing your review I thought I'd get the Calman consumer level solution to do my own calibration as many people in this thread suggest.
However, when I looked into that consumer Calman solution (Calman Home For LG Software and i1 colorimeter, about $400 total) I found that they did not support the 2022 OLEDS (e.g. the C2's) yet. Same for the Sony 2022 OLEDs. That consumer solution relies on the built in pattern generators (PG) in the TVs/panels. I talked to the company and was told that for the 2022 LGs there was an issue with the Calman SW being able to use the TV's built-in PG and they needed help from LG addressing the issue. It might not be a high priority for LG if I were to guess. I suspect that is also the reason the 2022 Sony OLEDs were also not supported.
Most cannot justify a professional priced calibration solution so something like the Calman consumer solution is a good compromise and likely the only choice for consumers to do their own calibration.
Is there any other consumer priced solution (closer to $400 rather than thousands of dollars) from any other vendor that works and does not have the same issue using the built in PG as Calman?
Thank You!
This is actually what I currently use to measure TVs: bit.ly/3MsYzpR along with DisplayCAL
CalMan became too expensive and not worth the trouble as it was not Mac OS compatible. What I use now produces the same results for way less.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Hi Andrew. Great! I was worried there might not be another consumer priced combination out there. I'll look into the Calibrite and DisplayCal. Thanks for the quick reply on a Saturday.
Great review 👍🏽. Can you imagine if setting up audio equipment was as difficult to set up as one of these t.v.'s ? Maybe it's time for THX to get back into the game with video picture standards with calibrated settings built in. Heck, Netflix does it lol.
I’m seriously considering either the LG G2 77 or the C2 83. I have a C8 55” now which I’ve been really happy with, but looking for something more cinematic now that we have the space. Not sure I can stretch to the G2 83” at £6300 in the uk.
If you strong on G2 design then get it if not bothered then C2
I have the C1 and it’s been a great tv for me. I’m looking to upgrade the size though so looking into C2 or maybe even G2. I’m definitely puzzled over the pre Calibration remarks since Ratings said it has a great out of the box calibration.. ughh haha
Ya, I don't understand that too since others like ratings said it's great out of the box
2:43 I guess you mean 77" instead of 75". The 83C2 is dimmer because it does not have the latest OLED.EX panel, only the 48", 55", 65" and 77" models currently have it.
I know this makes no sense LG doing this the most expensive model at 83 no EX please LG explain to me how does this make any sense?
Great review. I got the G1 on the closeout sale, best picture I've ever seen but it took a week hunting through settings to get it there for every input in all input formats. Also, while the screen was magnificent, everything else about the tv felt cheap to a level that I feel should be unacceptable at this price point. Cable clips, panel cover, remote, even the included mount left a lot to be desired. Would still buy again, damn that picture.
Great review, you guys, and good on you two for calling out LG's insanely stupid and long ongoing habit of not bothering to at least reference calibrate their TVs for the consumer. All TVs 📺 nowadays really do require some pro calibration for the best picture but at least with my previous Samsungs and my friends and family members' HiSense and TCLs, I have been able to adjust their settings to get a more than reasonably good picture that makes them happy and that allows them to view calibration as an option as opposed to a necessity.
No such luck with the LG C2. My friend's father recently got this very C2 you guys reviewed and they asked for my help because they couldn't get a freakin' live basketball game to look right! Keep in mind, live TV 📺 like sports and news which is essentially just video signal requires IMHO the least amount of settings tweaking as compared to movies 🎬 and TV shows. Well after hours of tweaking I finally told my pal's father he should probably get pro calibration done. He did and he's so happy now that he says watching a game now is like being there live.
I completely agree after seeing the final calibrated TV at work and definite kudos to LG for the high quality of their OLED TVs but it's insane that they need pro calibration as a defacto standard. It's more than a little shocking how unwatchable they are without it. I wouldn't be surprised if they had many returns with customers wrongly thinking their brand new LG TV was broken. Wise up, LG.