Unrest and Opposition Over Military Rule: Thailand on the Brink (Dispatch 4)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 พ.ค. 2014
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As Thailand's military tightens its grip on the nation, General Prayuth Chan-ocha has now received a royal endorsement - an essential piece of legitimacy - for his new position as head of the National Council for Peace and Order. Activists, politicians, students, and pro-government Red Shirt leaders continue to be detained by the junta, though it's not clear how many have been detained. Former Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra is said to have been released, though no one has seen or heard from her yet.
The junta is continuing to strike at the media and free speech, vowing to deal with any opposition or critics with force. Yet anti-coup sentiment is on the rise. Each day protesters appear on the streets in the evening in busy areas to call for a return to democracy. For all the army's threats, it has not yet used any deadly force against the protesters on the streets.
VICE News is on the ground in the "Land of Smiles" as the situation becomes more volatile and conflict engulfs the nation.
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First it was about the prime minister and the king, now it's about a dictator coup? Well that escalated quickly
First it was about Yugoslavian independence, and then it was about the worlds largest militaries struggle for dominance.
Things like that tend to escalate very quickly.
1manuscriptman Who the hell was talking about foreign intervention?
If you didn't understand what I was saying, read about Franz Ferdinand, the Black Hand and WW1.
My comment was an attempt, to show how seemingly small actions, can escalate, very quickly, into horrendous monsters.
I'm sorry I wasn't more clear. But I wasn't talking about the country Yugoslavia. I was talking about the Yugoslav people (Serbs included). Therefore, Yugoslav independence , which the black hand were fighting for.
This video is now blocked in Thailand... unless you use the mobile app ;)
The Army is actually doing a good job.
If anyone in Thailand sees this comment. Your revolution will fail either way for one simple reason. To many of you are asking the question what do we replace the current system with rather? rather than why did we ever need this system at all?
It failed ครับ
Great coverage guys.
was in victory square just a few months ago... how sad. :(
Why are all of people's signs written in English?
Is it something wrong with my hearing or if it's kind of hard to listen to what the reporter is saying?
Thai's internal issues, let them resolve it themselves. Any intervention from the outside will only cause the situation to deteriorate and most possibly degrade into a civil war.
By the way, hereditary dictatorship masquerades as democracy these days, not to mention the preselected candidates as well.. how is it different from autocracy? Well, besides the method of putting someone at helm, the end results is nevertheless the same irregardless of the small deviations.
"Any intervention from the outside will only cause the situation to deteriorate and most possibly degrade into a civil war."
Honestly, any intervention from the Inside might cause a civil war.
wyvernlord23
A foreign agent from a different land will not care about the indigenous and the more immediate consequences if they decide to intervene, most likely to secure an interest from the conflict. However, an internal intervention will be taken with considerable care as not to damage its relations and interest that are closely linked to the people that they know and care for.
In summary, an internal intervention is happening at this point in time even as we're discussing here, its a natural cause which is taken with mindful thoughts and calculus instead of a reckless one from a foreign agent.
無窮大 "By intervention from the inside", I meant if the citizens start killing each other.
wyvernlord23
There has been many deaths resulting from random beatings, assassination, and etc. ever since the protest started, VICE is not doing a good job covering them.
Anyhow, this is their internal problem, an outsider like us should continue to observe and act only when the situation really demands us to, for now, this is a not-so-common event happening in their country, I believe after so many instances, they should have a better understanding and solution to the problem themselves.
And that seems like what the powers that be are doing. No one wants a civil war here. A secure Thailand, is a secure region. But the most intervention I see is a condemnation and sanctions, but that's only if the military does something REALLY stupid.
Oh boy......
the caption link that says the military banned facebook for around half an hour, only has half a fucking sentence stating that they suspended over 30 MILLION accounts nationwide. I'd say thats a little more important.
JAKARTA MAY 1998.
where is young people Thailand?
Crazy how MSM in America barely even touches this rapidly unfolding issue.
Really brave from that minister of education to defy the junta's orders and speak out against the coup. The world needs a lot more politicians who put the country's wellbeing before their own
just curious why are some protesters yelling in English rather than Thai?
respekt to those people
could you make Thai subtitle?
because Thai media are shut their mouth
so you are a good way to check what's happen.
is there a country on earth that isn't experiencing civil turmoil right now?
Iceland, got fixed very nicely only because they chose the people over the system.
What an age we live in...
It seems to me like the leader of the Thai military mixed up "top 10 ways to fuck up a coup" with "How to take over your country in 10 easy steps"
You know politicians Thailand ?
the last few years it has been Power to the people around the world.
They sound like the seagulls from Finding Nemo.
I am was in Bangkok 3 days ago. I did not see any soldiers.
I am one of the thai people that want this to be end
I'd like to know more about what the problem was with the previous government that lead to the coup?
They're military, not policemen.
I think it's a really bad idea to put them against crowd
The fuck is going on
When it's gets down to having to use violence, then you are playing the system's game.
The establishment will irritate you: pull your beard, flick your face to make you fight. Because once they've got you violent, then they know how to handle you.
The only things they don't know how to handle is non-violence and humour.
John Lennon
The video is too loud, hard to hear the commentator
Honestly, I don't think these people don't even know what they really want anymore.
Can someone explain to me who the militants are that were lobbing grenades and shooting protesters back before the coup? And the ones that killed that one soldier in eastern Thailand?
What do you suppose a "june-tah" is?
if i was the reporter i would put my middle finger up to them every time they touched the camera or told us to leave
I don't like Coup's either, I'm more of a 4 door older car lover myself.
At least the soldiers aren't violent to the protesters,
Real shit.
Every Thai I've talked to agreed that junta is better than (previous) democracy. You wouldn't believe how corrupted is it over here.
no soldier no bad things
Elect Ton now!!!
More often than not I really like these Vice reports, but this piece seemed a bit overly dramatic. Other than for the red and yellow shirt protesters, the military has only been an inconvenience.
if elections were to happen next month the government would be a mess, which could lead to PDRC vs Red shirt conflict in the streets. Bangkok is ALOT safer for everyone since the coup.
Holy sheeeet i was thought Today
6:04 morgan Freeman, (the dark skinned cop with glasses)
The soldier at the start is torn inside by the look on his face :/
It's 100 people from Thaksin Shinawatra's "red Sunday" group - this is confirmed. Please note that some of the protesters are even still wearing their red shirts, and some are wearing their "respect my vote" shirts which was from the last ham-handed re-brand of this violent, diminutive street mob.
The "red Sunday" group was allowed to protest despite the new laws - it was only after VIOLENCE at Victory Monument that the government decided to break them up. Even the idiot reporting admits that the mob is confronting the soldiers. and there is video RIGHT HERE IN THIS REPORT of the "red shirts" trying to strangle and beat a WOMAN that disagreed with them!!!! They can also be seen attacking soldiers and VICE cleverly omitted the mob trying to overturn a military vehicle and vandalizing another.
VICE somehow how knows all the contrived pro-Thaksin talking points - is that because they have no clue how to conduct a real journalistic investigation, or because they never intended to be journalists in the first place?
PS - Junta is Spanish so the J is pronounced like wh- in "who." Hard to find good help these days, especially when the job requires dishonesty and shamelessness.
He said the magic words "We want democracy"! America to the rescue! Lol ( It's a joke before you all go crazy)
5:20 that guy has really dishonest eyes..
นอกจากยุดสลายสีเสื้อไม่ได้แล้ว? ยังช่วยสร้างประชาชนตัวจริงเสียงจริงเกิดขึ้นโดยไม่ต้องมีแกนนำ อืม ขอบคุณประชาชนผู้รัก ปชต.คร๊ะ..
Well they are very calm about it ( Thai military ) Not really hitting people kind of taking their shoving.
I think it would be good for Thailand if they got rid of their monarchy.
นี่คือประเทศไทย
This is the definition of black and white thinking
Why so serious my friend...I was speaking metaphorically.
Thats the problem of Thais, we watch too much tv drama and think that the world consist of only good and bad peoples.
You're wrong, the dictator isn't any better than you or I. Who is another man to make my decisions?
Its the fluoride. Sometimes people don't get enough of it. That could lead to civil unrest ,whistleblowers and accusations of corruption against the government. Ask your doctor about the benefits of fluoride and find out if fluoride is right for you.
i dont understand why people dont ignore protesters, if the government deploys more troops it either always influences new protesters or brings about more, half the time if you ignore them and nothing comes them gathering in the streets then yelling chants for a couple hours they all get bored and leave, it is completely unnecessary to go and confront a group of protesters, now if they confront a building then that's something else but to deploy troops randomly in downtown streets is the stupidest shit ever
'cuz if you leave them alone with no one watching they have a tendency to riot. VICE is being a bit bombastic with it claims of imminent civil war. Thailand has had something like 12 bloodless coups since the monarchy stepped down from absolute rule. In Thailand the military serves as a sort of balancing act. When civil unrest from politics gets too high they come in and tell them to chill the fuck out for a while and then they go back to elections.
You may hear a word "Holy traffic cone" which is placed by PDRC (or pro-coup supporters today). People who move this traffic cone may tend to be attacked by PDRC with warfare weapons, knives and grenades.
Today PDRC supporters disguise themselves as pro-coup supporters and allegedly blame pro-democracy groups as terrorists (You may have seen through this video on boards displayed by those group such as "support military anti-terrorism). Pro-democracy supporters call for only elections but they are closely monitored by police and soldiers. Many of them are still being detained in military barracks across Thailand. Recently one Belgian national is caught and taken to somewhere withheld. This is a situation in Thailand. Without help from Western countries, political stance in this country is no longer ruled under democracy regime.
The majority support the military. The US have a delusion that democracy is the only "good" form of government.
In reality most of the people of Bangkok just want the government to settle down so that they can continue living as normal.
The King backs the military, and the people of Thailand back the king.
- I was in Bangkok last week
The majority supports the militrary? I SERIOUSLY doubt that. I have been following this conflict and from what I understand, most people are against this.
Have you been to Bangkok yourself?
Vice is a great new site, but it's the medias job to over hype things
Dane Alexandre No but I'd like to visit. I have been following the conflict and the yellow shirts are clearly a pro-elitist minority. Most protesters are not so openly antidemocratic unless they are a minority. But they have the military on their side so they have no reason to worry about democracy getting in their way. Also, I suspect that Thaksin AND his sister wouldn't have won for so many elections if they were so unpopular.
BUT AM SAVE
>Took power from the government
>Therefore is government
>Still a rebel
Democracy aka mob rule, 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner.
Dictatorships are terrible
It’s world star where I am born
3:20 Who is she ???
yelling at soldiers does nothing. They are just doing their job
everybody is self made, only rich people are willing to admit it.
Every living organism is dependent upon it's environment and other organisms for survival. No living in this universe is truly self-made. First of all, mammals(including humans) have to depend upon their parents to survive when small and for training to make it in life. You don't think that your parents influenced who you are now? What about the countless workers, without them rich people would be nothing. Unless you are a mentally ill psychopath with no empathy, you have built in mirror neurons who exist simply to learn and understand others. It seems evolution itself doesn't think you are self-made but has hard-wired you to be made with the help of others. That's why it provided you with the ability to communicate learn etc. The process of learning itself is proof of this. There is no way to ever make it in the world, without learning things that others discovered. Don't forget that humans are social animals not tigers, with the small exception of a number of mentally ill sociopaths, psychopaths and narcissists, who usually have problems in life and destroy themselves and others
humans are the only creature born with no skills to survive in are own environment. because humans have the energy to create are own circumstances an environment, based on are habitual thoughts. if you think it, you become it.
Does everyone know what could have prevented this?.......................Heavily armed civilians.
I'm just here to see people bashed
Better then in furguson?
...ขออย่าให้มีอีกเลย
Someone send the UN there.
It would be nice if u could do the commentary over less screaming so we can actually understand what you're saying.
Thailand does things the "Thai" way, it might not make sense from an outside perspective, but to Thais it is what it is. Take prostitution for example, it is illegal in the country of Thailand, but the police tolerate it for obvious reasons(Eg. Sex tourism). There are a lot of contradictions in Thai society, but like I said before it might not make a lot of sense from an outside perspective. Thailand is what it is.
anything new on this vice?
yellow and red markings on army and police? no one saw it or commented??
I get the pro coup supporters and sympathise with them. However, attacking taht woman who was pro-coup was very wrong. It reminds me of the Ukraine video where that one anti separatist lady almost had her passport ripped up by someone just because she supported a different movement.
#anti_coup #NoCoup #FreeThailand #BBC #CNN #Reuters #NHK #Aljazeera #Washingtonpost #UN #UNHCR #EU #HumanRightsWatch
We want to vote = We want your money
Still wait election and wait....
Now call me crazy but maybe just maybe we should have a country take control of Thailand until we can build it back up. In Some way kinda what we (the us) did in Japan, Korea, Germany etc. Those are the only ones I can think of but I am sure other countries have done it too.
red shirt player reaction after server admin kick all of them out of game.
I just hate watching the country my parents and ancestors came from fall apart
This is Asian "democracy" at its best… ;-)
!!!!Orz เอาตรงๆนะกูอาย ....
democracy? pffff
This is merely the final wrap up of the whole situation, it's the conclusion phase now. Where the fuck were you guys when this rising started? It has been going on for over six months now.
wheres the Molotov cocktails, that will spread the pigs fast
They are so funny.
Wing wok wak vok wok wak wing vok vok sai
2:38 WE WAN DECROMACY!!
4:17 Interrupted by Army
Things aren't looking too good for Thailand..
the King will call for elections as soon as things calm down. . . not the first time this.
I am people in thailand.I think that coup is fuck. next year i think that in Thailand better.
มันไม่โทษกันเองมังวะ นักการเมือง
พวกปล้นอำนาจประชาชนมาปกครองประเทศ จบไม่สวยสักราย ตัวอย่างมีให้เห็นแล้วหลายราย
No Coup
หรอ!!! กลับมาดูคำพูดด้วยครับ ตอนนี้ก็ยังอยู่ครับ ไหนบอกจบไม่สวยทุกรายไง 555
Thai Royal Army trying to protect the country form some group who have been planning and getting ready to bomb and killing pure people. I knew this because my family and friends are in the Army. Please understand them what they are trying to do. Nobody want to see Thailand got destroy by some group of people who tried to make the situation is getting worse. Thanks to all the soldiers who always be there for our country. I believe General will give the power back to Thai citizen. I also live in USA, but my opinion is us shouldn't intervene Thailand situation cause USA did not know what was happened? so I hope my country will get back to normal.
มีทรราษฎร์อยู่ที่อนุเสาวรีย์ ประชาธิปไตยด้วยหรือ ไม่คู่ควรไปยืนอนุเสาวรีย์แห่งความเสียสละชีวิตของประชาชนผู้รักประชาธิปไตย
During Cold War this happen in country very often. But USA all way said is domestic issue.