Jaynalysis: Cat & Robbie's Dirty Secret
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Cat shrieking “Nooo” is unnerving.
Yeah the “playing pirates” part sounds so predatory. Damn this show was much darker than I thought.
Right? It's wild how the showrunners played that for laughs and had robbie be a sympathetic character at the same time,,, Uncomfy Tm
I read: cat sherk.
@@Love-ic1yw bruh I read that too then i read the actual thing
Most of her lines are delivered in an already very unnerving airy monotone expression.
Airiana Grande somehow added fear into that mix of voice traits perfectly.
Tbh Ariana shouldve done acting instead of music
Sometimes it feels like he's weird with love, cause he hasn't seen his parents intereact much, considering his mom refuses to live with him at times
Wow 1.6k likes and 0 replies
where is all the replies???
Soo they are divorced? Man robbie needs therapy to beggin a relationship
@@ericgabrielalvesdecarvalho3496 Fr
"Weird with love" aka implied sexual assault.
Bruh, Robbie was really creepy and so pervert towards Cat, not just Robbie, but general Victorious and Dan Schneider's shows
Not denying that he was a stalker. I love the guy but he should definitely mature a bit.
Fr, I loved the ship but Robbie didn't need that much energy towards Cat.
not just Cat, I remember in Beggin On Your Knees, when Tori said that Ryder will notice Robbie hiding behind the bush on her patio, Robbie said that Tori never has
I’m sure you look more like a pervert or creepier than Tinky Winky on Teletubbies
Sighs* I done said my peace about this "relationSHIP" and people still wanted a video about it. No hate though lol
Sidebar: I have NEVER seen a video with literally negative thumbs down..wow smh
In lots of kids shows they always seem to have the boy who’s “innocent and sweet but nerdy and doesn’t know how to talk to girls” but in that the guy seems to harass the girls or act inappropriately around them but we’re told that they’re harmless and sweet? Something odd I notice we grew up with
Always bugged me too cause like...is that the lesson they're teaching kids?
@@JayniacJr yes!! I’ve dated a guy who’s behaviour was the same as these characters and people often look past it
Still though, people ignore trina. Yes robbie is bad but trina is equally as bad
@@terrakage4462 1. trina's personality is meant to be obnoxious and crazy and that's shown through her actions, and 2. this comment was talking about a common trope in children's sitcoms not specifically robbie
@ReddX robbie is also played for laughs, that's the entire point of this video
I just thought robbie was bad at playing pirates. And jade gets protective. Imma just let this be innocent and cute in my head for the sake of my childhood.
I thought the same when I was a kid...🥺
It's literally just a theory, it could still very much just be that.
@@noodlegumm_ I hope so
The thing is I don’t think they genuinely meant to make it sound the way they did. I’m hopeful that the bad writing was the only thing that made Robby look like the way he does to us now that we’re old enough to understand
@Username where’d you find this? lmao
Mmmmm while the 'pirate' game does sound alarming, I don't think its as bad as we think it is since Jade knows about it as well and I feel like if Robbie had done something really bad Jade would have been angrier with him so he was probably just being kind of weird and Cat didn't like it but that's just my thoughts lol
That’s a valid argument. I might just be projecting onto the character, but maybe she downplayed it? Or maybe she begged Jade not to get mad or get him in trouble? I know that that’s what I’ve done when things like that happen to me. It feels less scary to just ignore the problem and not involve any authority figures or anything. But, once again, self-projection can be common with fictional characters that we relate to/liken ourselves to, so this might just be me projecting.
I thought about the sexual component too but I honestly feel like it's more likely that he just played (literally played the game) too rough, and scared her. And I also think that while there are a lot of double antandres (cannot spell) the thing about "I don't want to see that thing again" was not sexual. Man probbakt has a dead beetle collection or something.
@@El-jf8fz I hope that you’re right
I think Robbie just wants to be experience 🙄
But remember, what if Cat told Jade what happened and she already severely injured him in the past. This can also explain why she's always disgusted and rude to him now. Someone made a good point about her downplaying it
he puts so much effort into these videos, you can tell he rewatched episodes and the slap videos THAT many times.
Yesss
So true
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Robbie is ethically questionable to say the least. He is not a bad person, but he could be a lot better.
He’s rather misunderstood
I can’t admit he can come off as social awkward I love him no lie he’s my fave character, I just think he’s misunderstood and needs help in communicating with women properly.
@@eph_loves_80s74 He does need to know how to talk to women, I guess that's why he wanted to see Ryder and Tori's date, except Beggin On Your Knees made him sound like he's a bit of a creep/stalker
@@tinyelephantxdaisy Yeah
@@tinyelephantxdaisy The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
I think Robbie took advantage of Cat's naivety and kind nature.
Definitely
Oh be quiet you simp
@@eph_loves_80s74 wtf
And Cat took advantage of the attention Robbie gave from his crush on her...they do not have a good relationship
@@growingupwithdisney Cat doesn’t know how to express her love for him and Robbie doesn’t know how to talk to women properly despite becoming better later on
1:09 Can't forget the time they were singing "5 Fingers to The Face" and Cat didn't want to say the line about Pirates cuz it was "dirty"
I don't think it was about pirates. It was just dirty.
@@sirmel11 It was, because the line she thought was dirty was, "I'm a pirate and you're my booty."
@@mahutin2 but it isn't dirty
@@charlotteevans7868 Robbie probably made it sound dirty to Cat
I think it’s just cause the word booty lmfao
1:31- 1:36 Robbie said that he had something. Cat covered her eyes, and said that she didn't want to see "that" again, he should put it away.
I never even realized that that was an innuendo, until now.
OH MA-
SAME OML-
It was about the butterfly cage, nothing sexual or implications of rape I promise
@@blackprimrose7541 u wrote the script?
@@koriyona cats whole part in the episode was about a butterfly in her ear. i made theres a chance it could be dirty but i dont think so
Robbie and cat's relationship was........
Weird to say the least.
Robbie isnt bad he just need to go on a therapy, a good amount
@@ericgabrielalvesdecarvalho3496 a lot amount just to be sure
It felt very one sided
I strongly believe that if Victorious wasnt cancelled, they would have become a proper couple by the end. I guarantee it!
We've been Manifesting for years
Why was it canceled?
@@mss.nthng13 people say it was because of Victoria's concerts and some problem with Nickelodeon something like that
@@joemama8133 Yeah, I believe it was this. Like, her concert would’ve interfered with the potential filming of a next season.
And still wouldn’t convince that Cat like him
In urban dictionary it says that playing pirates is a pickup line (a creepy one really). An example given is "Wanna play pirates?" "What's that?" "We go under the sheets and find the booty".
Oof, that’s upsetting
:Flushed_face: omg.
@@chargirlplayz9838 i would like to inform you that this isnt discord
@@graypot9851 ok.
Oh no.
Can we talk about trinas harassment of beck I feel like I’m the only one anoyed by it
shes just the only one who isnt in the group so she flirts with beck alot just like another girl in the show
Alyssa but she’s 10x creeper than Robbie she just gets a pass because she’s a FEMALE
@@killermothxd4085 She's also more aggressive towards others than Robbie. She physically bullies him in one episode.
@@killermothxd4085 i don't think trina gets a pass due to her being female, i think it's more to do w the fact that the show does portray it as negative (whereas the show often brushes over the creepy things robbie says and does). i also disagree w the assertion that she's creepier than robbie, she's overbearing and is definitely creepy towards beck but she hasn't ever done anything that could traumatise him, it's heavily implied that robbie's "pirate game" (and more) was creepy enough to traumatise cat. don't downplay his actions to push some weird agenda
Zaddy faye at least Robbie was kinda and innocent with the things he did Trina did actively agrssive things like force kissing beck tackling him jumping on a guys back and bullying Robbie I’m just saying it’s a double standard that robbies is getting called out but not Trina
Can you do an analysis on Cat and Tori's friendship, cause they seem to care a lot for the other, but sometimes get into Rocky situations when it comes to their friendship
i agree. i’d like to see a video for them too
I do love their friendship, but jade is a much better friend to cat. She would drop anything to help her and when cat gave jade the perfect gift, that smile on jade’s face. Priceless. Also cat and jade always have fun singing together.
Idk but every time is saw cat and toris friendship sometimes it would seem fake at times
@@gabrielleduplessis7388 Tori would also drop anything to help Cat, and if Tori did Cat wrong, she always tried to make it right, where as Jade tried to kill Cat once, and didn't even feel bad about that
@@nunyabuissness8058 when did it seem fake,i'm not saying you're incorrect, i'm just curious to know
If only we got a proper finale that explained this smh
...stay tuned
@@JayniacJr ....say WHAT-
@@JayniacJr SO TRUE IM EXCITED
Cat shrieking “NOO!!” honestly made my heart break
Fr, she sounds so scared
Scared?😐
@@toasterowens8916 yes scared…?
0:25 Hints? It is pretty much directly stated. In season 4 episode 2 "Hambone King" Bobbie and Cat meet a guy at Nozu and the dude mistakenly believes that Cat is Robbie's girl. If I remember correctly, this guy was rude and disrespectful to Cat. Robbie corrects they guy. After Robbie points out that Cat is not his girl, he turns to her and says "unless you wanna be." Cat says "I'm good." Then, if I recall correctly, Robbie defends Cat's honor. That's how I remember it.
Hence why he said many hints not that it wasn't directly stated.
I am a strong Cabbie fan. They are both immature weirdos and flaws and all, they are funny, caring and sweet to each other in an earnest way. They will forever be my favorite characters/ship in Victorious.
I really Ship cade. 😬 they're fire and ice
@@lilicarter6662 she sees her as a pet, and plus they are best friends
@@lilicarter6662 SAME AAA
@@lilicarter6662 that dynamic is way to familial to me like daughter or annoying lil sister for my liking
Ya I love cabbie
My head cannon is that cat gets too involved in her imagination. Like one episode she makes finger guns then says "don't worry, they're not real". I think when they play pirates, it becomes too real for cat, and she freaks out.
Robbie's Obsession
Let's call it like it is people
Yeah, sexual harassment *
8:48 look at jades reaction. She knows somethings up with that.
100%!!!
@WD Vinco Personally i dont think thats the case cat has probably told jade about the game pirates so if or when Robbie brings it up or cat brings it up jade can do something about it
@WD Vinco and plus it seems like robbie acts a pervert-y way to cat
Just found out that in the song 5 fingaz to the face there was a line: "I'm a pirate and you're my booty, arg". And in a later episode, when Cat and Trina were singing this song in a car, it was Cat's turn to sing that line and she refused and said it was dirty.
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn boi, they went far with the joke
This is kind of off-topic, but would you consider making a video on how the show SHOULD HAVE ended? The show was cancelled and didn't have a proper finale, so what do you think would happen in a perfect VICTORIOUS finale special/movie.
I always thought it would have been nice if, at the end of the show, Trina discovered that she's not talented and had to learn to accept that and grow from that.
I also thought it would have been nice to see certain characters get together. For example, I also like the idea of Jade and Andre and wish the show went somewhere with the Andre-has-a-crush-on-Jade plot. ;) It would have been cute if there was a scene where Andre sings the original version of "365 Days" (i.e. the version in which he sings "Jade" instead of "Baby") and Jade chimes in mid-song, singing Tori's parts. I also like Cat and Robbie, Tori and Beck, Trina and Sinjin.
I remember him saying something about the gang having to battle a gang like their's but from Northridge and then Trina being the one who has to battle them on a live
i would've really liked to see tori and andre have a little bit of a relationship. while i did like their platonic friendship, they most definitely could've grown as partners. whenever andre had a problem he would almost ALWAYS go to tori, same for tori.
I recently wrote some scenes with Trina and sinjin in them. I thought i was the only one. I started to ship them after sinjin defended Trina to the group. Sinjin was not always bad. Why did the creator have to make almost all the guys creepy? Wait, don’t answer that.
I thought tori and Robbie at first, then tori and beck.
Jade and Andre
Cat and Robbie.
As far as i got.
...stay tuned
Jade and Andre was supposed to be the end couple I'm still mad they cut that out
can you, please, do a video about Greg Heffley and his family? I would love to see you talking about his sociopath and narcisitics tendences,
btw today´s video was great as always. Keep going and never give up :D
his WHAT tendencies ?????
@@dickridernumber1 do you wanna a link about a video explaning it better?
Oh wtf, I would like to see that episode
I always thought he was narcissistic too😂
@@RT-rs6eb do you wanna see the video kinda apointing that? The guy made one video for each book.
If you ask me, as the series went on, Robbie's feeling towards Cat seemed to get more genuine and less a nerdy guy liking a pretty girl who is out of his league. And at the same time, Robbie seems to dial back his creepy / Inappropriate behaviour.
I agree. And honestly I have a thing for nerdy guys so if these were real people I would be much quicker to date Robbie instead of Beck or Andre.
honestly I think the 'playing pirates' gag was just that he scared Cat, shes terrified of a lot and he probably made her jump too much
In my head cannon, they are a good couple. I feel if it were not for dan schendier’s writing, we would not being seeing these problematic and perverted men.
I can see how some may see them as a bad couple, but i feel they would always be there for each other and have a mature friendship and relationship. Even victoria justice has them get married in her script for the victorious finale.
To be honest, in my scripts i take rex and the perverted nonsense out of it.
That reminds me.
He didn’t mention Rex once in this video.
The “I never hit on you” line from him that’s directed towards Cat definitely could’ve been discussed. Maybe this line implied that Robbie liked her even before the kiss in the third episode.
I always thought Robbie just did scary pirate things like sword fighting and such, and Cat was scared of that
I think he jumped out from behind her and yelled aargh with his hand in shape of hook
Same
As cat said, “you ain’t my boyfriend, I ain’t your girlfriend, but you don’t want me to see nobody else, and I don’t want you to see nobody”
Do you guys remember that Robbie accused Cat that she's the one who hurted Trina where in fact He and Rex are the one who did it to Trina. That boy is a mess. But idk I really love him haha.
Rex is what Robbie wouldn’t do or say. It’s like it’s his persona
@@eph_loves_80s74 yeah I'm aware of that, but still a puppet is a puppet Robbie is the one who did it to Trina
@@stanelizabethgillies111 Rex is what Robbie wouldn’t dare do or say. That’s his persona
@@stanelizabethgillies111 But yeah I think Trina still deserved it
@@eph_loves_80s74 hey! No one deserves that. Yeah she's so annoying but she doesn't deserve those! She was almost killed.
1:48- 2:05 Two things...
1. That was a great innuendo. I am not even sure I can call it an innuendo. Innuendos are supposed to be subtle. That was not subtle at all.
2. Why did Robbie and Cat give the thugs their Pajelehoochos? Initially, Robbie did not want to and then Cat reminded them of the deal that they made with Sikowitz. However, when they made that deal, Sikowitz cited an exception for anything dangerous or illegal.
I suppose one alternative explanation could be that they were afraid the thugs might hurt them (i.e. physically assault them). However, putting aside the fact that Robbie initially did not want to and Cat specifically said that they have to because of the deal that they made with Sikowitz, Cat and Robbie could have just retreated.
Cat and Robbie both have their own issues to deal with. Putting those two together would be unhealthy for either one of them, for Cat in particular. A romantic relationship between them would be toxic...
True or somehow they're good for each other and they make the relationship work but who's to say 🤷
Arianna and Matt Bennett do have great chemistry and it’s nice that their real life friendship continued after the show since she had him in her One Last Time and Thank U Next music videos
i would love to change the script where it's less creepy and Robbie is simply a white knight
If Robbie was less creepy and perverted, or if he worked on those to better himself, they would've been great together. Though, he's obviously done something to upset Cat enough for her to hate "playing pirates" with him, which creeps me out a lot. Taking that into consideration, I don't think they'd be a healthy couple if Robbie continued to act like that and upset Cat a lot.
He has a hard time communicating with females properly.
0:54 I have a theory about why Cat denies her feeling for Robbie. It is likely that her own psychological problems are enough to deal with, she does not need a boyfriend with as many psychological problems as Robbie.
There's this one channel that talked about Robbie specifically saying that he and Rex are the same person, which might make sense, but at the same time, it doesn't seem possible. The two are so different from each other. When they're alone, it feels like Robbie is talking to a real person.
But, even though Robbie always seems like an innocent guy, he could be a real monster on the inside. Maybe Rex is that monster.
Lmfao that's crazy.. scared of Rex now 😂😂😂
Your use of alliteration will never cease to impress me
Robbie still cool the way he write that song to Cat and said these brave words about her. Yes okay Robbie seemed a bit into her, and Cat didn’t know how to express her love for him, but at the same time I think they are cute together. Both are childish.
The more I rewatch these shows, the more perverted I realise Schneider is.
straight here to tune in yassssss love this guy
First comment right here
It probably isn't a coincidence that historical pirates had the tendency to humiliate their captives which could possibly include degrading sexual intercourse.
What if Cat was just scared of his pirate impersonation sheerly due to pirates are scary? It would seem in character at least
Man this stuff is a lot darker than I remember. But tbh, I don’t think Robbie was necessarily a bad person. He just had no clue how to communicate romantic feelings in a healthy way.
Me when seeing the thumbnail: *EXCUSE ME?*
xD
Cat throwing that chair at the wall was a 👀 moment😂
FINALLY!! I’ve always wanted this time to happen and now I'm finally happy it’s here!! 😊😊😁
While I agree with most of this, I don't think the pirate thing was anything sexual, Jade knew about it and she's very protective of Cat, if it would've been anything bad she wouldn't have let it pass...
Knowing jade, She would probably torment Robbie until death if he did touch cat inappropriately.
Just want to put my 2 cents In here:
I believe that Rex was entirely behind the whole pirate thing. I know Robbie controls Rex, but I think Rex is just how Robbie communicates things he can’t implement elsewhere. If anything happened with pirates and Cat, I believe it started with Robbie being Rex. With that being said, I also don’t think the pirate thing was anything major. If it was, I doubt Jade, beck, or Andre would let Robbie near Cat again. I’m guessing Cat just didn’t like how Robbie played pirates, simple as that.
i’m hoping it’s that otherwise my childhood is gonna be a lot darker than i remember
I think Robbie's Mamma being so terrible to Cat is a contributing factor to her not wanting to get in a serious relation with Robbie.
At least Sinjin was aware he was a creep to girls whilst Robbie tried to act all innocent about it
"Awwww ill let pat know" HELP SJSJDUHFJ
I KNOW, SHE’S SUCH A CUTIE AHSHASHSAHAHAHAHAHAHA
growing up brings the reality we didnt understand when we were kids..
I don't think their relationship is good or bad. Just weird
I feel like Jori and Cabbie are the most complicated ships from the show but Jori is less problematic in a way. I was a big Cabbie fan untill I watched hariyanna's hook opinion vid about Robbie and I realised how creepy he really is so I have mixed feelings about the ship now. If it wasn't for that pirates thing I would be 100% for this ship. I found the I think you are swell scene and when he told Cat that any guy would be lucky to go out with her relatable to myself and my experience with feelings so ye. That scenes were adorable but is a complicated relationship in more than one way.
@Luke Jameson Ye it is funny how one vid can change your point of view this much
i honestly think in-universe the pirates thing is nothing serious, since cat having extremely exaggerated reactions to random stuff is a recurring joke in the show
Honestly I’m pretty concerned on why Cat always gets so scared when Robbie asks: “Wanna play pirates?”
WTF IS YOUR PFP IM DYING
The show's infantilisation of cat paired with robbie's predatory comments and innapropriateness leaves me with a really gross feeling... Their dynamic is far more reminiscent of a child and their abuser than two teenagers romantically interested in eachother.
Most of my observations have been covered in the comments, but i would like to draw attention specifically to the fact that cat's refusal of her feelings for him could (with the 'pirate' thing's hints at sexual assault) be because part of her feels like that means she must have liked what he did to her- and thus, she can't have feelings for him because that would invalidate her trauma. It is a very common response in survivors of sexual assault or abuse to develop feelings, especially in one where the assaulter in question is so affectionate and their age. They justify the event and trick themselves into believing it was something they should be happy about, convincing themselves that they are the ungrateful ones. Robbie's behaviour and overt favouritsm of cat, as much as it may be genuine from his point of view, is a method of grooming and attempting to coerse her into positive feelings of him. Showering people in gifts and compliments is often a response to guilt from the assaulter. They justify it to themselves as well, telling themselves theyre making up for it, or that their victim actually wanted it and is just shy.
It is extemely unhealthy, and honestly speaks volumes about dan schnider if we didnt already know, since he doubtlessly pulls from his own experiences for robbie. Robbie doesnt *care* if cat is uncomfortable. Or that she flat out rejects him so often. If anything, it wouldnt surprise me if he believes she belongs to him in some way when you consider how he has responded to romantic encounters previously. The idea of the only girl he has sexually advanced with, would create the kind of obsession we see he has with cat throughout the show. Which...explains even more in regards to smaller details, like how he brought cat to meet his grandmother in a way that he would most likely believe is very romantic and generous of him.
He is honestly a disgusting character, and if it weren't unintentional, i would commend the accuracy to real life sexually abusive situations. Unfortunately, the most accurate reflections of the darker side of humanity often come from perpetrators themselves.
Can we talk about Cat's Inconsistent feats of strength? Like one minute she's about to break a chair pretty easily just by chucking it at a wall. Then the next she's unable to take a Teddy bear from a 10 year old. And then she's able to take down the flower bomber
Robbie gives me "I'm a nice guy" vibes
These two are perfect for each other
I think I just permanently have the Jayniac theme song stuck in my head😭😭😂
Could it be she’s afraid of being with robbie because she might know they’ll be in a serious relationship and she doesn’t want to end like her parents
Can we just appreciate that it is exactly 12:00 long
The only reason why cat and Robbie were put together in the show is because they’re both the strangest characters of their respective genders in the cast. Aside from that I don’t think they’re compatible at all. Robbie’s creepy and predatory, cat’s naive and childlike. They have a very unsettling dynamic.
I can admit that Robbie can come off as social awkward but I wouldn’t see him as a predator. I think he needs help when it comes to talking to females
@@eph_loves_80s74 Robbie as a character doesn’t come across as predatory in my opinion but when I realised that everything that Rex says and does is actually coming from him, my view of him shifted a lot.
@@l4uryn.850 Well........Rex is what Robbie wouldn’t dare say or do. He’s like his persona
I have a video idea for you! You briefly mentioned in your seddie video the relationship between freddie and his mom and how it shaped his personality, but perhaps you could do a further analysis on her. Do you think ms benson is too overprotective/a helicopter parent, is she acting as a normal concerned mother who means well or is she bordering toxic behavior by trying to control so much of his life. Happy valentines day, great video as always!!
Maybe cat has an anxious avoidant attachment style. She wants the boy but when she has him she gets anxiety and freaks out and pushes away
You realize that EVERYTHING rex says Robbie thinks
I think he had most character development. He was so weird when it came to love, sometimes the interactions felt more like assault. But it seems like he changed and now isn’t that bad although he still isn’t perfect when it comes to love, but I think it’s because he doesn’t really have a proper example, since his parents are hardly mentioned and his mom refuses to even live with him
YOOOOOOOOO speaking of booty in reference to pirates, in the scene where cat and trina are singing "five fingas to the face" in the car, she doesnt wanna say the line "im a pirate and you're my booty" bc "it's dirty" IT ADDS UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wait someone already said this bye.
Yess I've been waiting for this one
I have a feeling that the writers wanted a real love story between the two, meanwhile dan (and probably other shady people on set) were projecting to make robbie a perverted character towards cat which is why it's such a weird switch up
Just so yall know the Pirates theory is just a theory. If anything on the surface it just feels like a really silly gag and nothing else. Alot of people are jumping to this theory to accuse Rob of being someone who sexually assaults. He has far other examples of being creepy, this one is literally just a theory.
Thank you
It is 100% just a theory/audience conjecture. And, honestly, I hope that we’re wrong, because if that’s the innuendo that was intended, then that’s really very very upsetting. For me, it may also be a partial self-projection, since I relate to Cat as a character, and have had some scary experiences with guys like that. But projection and conjecture does not equal canon, so I honestly really really hope that you’re right, and that it isn’t anything as bad as what a lot of us make it out to be.
Yes but I still want to know how Robbie plays pirates
I put on this video while starting up a game, the game's beginning has this low hum, and watching that scene with cat and robbie at the beginning with a low hum changes the tone of that scene COMPLETELY
Cat throwing the chair is genuinely scary - like how quickly she can go from calm & collected to absolutely furious
Cat is secretly a Yandere
It really pisses me off that now as adults we go back and watch it and they felt the need to put such inappropriate jokes and innuendos that make your stomach churn, like they didn't need to put that in a show like this and yet they did....
I would like to say that Robbie matured over the course of the series and his feelings for Cat were definitely real. No one writes a song like “I Think You’re Swell” without having serious feelings for someone. I think that it’s really Cat that can’t bring herself to admit her feelings to Robbie. I agree with the other person who posted below that her brother may have a lot to do with how Cat approaches relationships with other people. Based on what Car tells us about her brother, he has serious mental issues and is eventually taken by her parents to an inpatient treatment facility in another state. This would have been a good place for Cat to start on her journey to moving past whatever abuse she suffered by her brother. She seems to have a need for others to like her no matter what the cost as shown in “The Blonde Squad” when she kept up the facade of being a blonde even after finding out the guy she liked didn’t like people who pretend to be something they aren’t. Even after Robbie pours his heart out to her by singing his song she is still desperate for the other guy to like her and muses about maybe dying her hair blonde. This is after it is very clear the guy doesn’t want anything to do with her. I think that if Cat and Robbie did start dating, they would need to have a serious conversation about boundaries. I think Robbie likes Cat so much he would take the relationship at whatever pace felt right for Cat. She would have to tell him many more details about her relationship with her brother and how that factors into how she is thinking about dating him. Robbie is a patient guy, sometimes to a fault. He knows Cat is worth waiting for. Cat would definitely need some serious therapy to help her deal with her family life and perhaps by working through those issues, it would help her come to terms with her feelings for Robbie. She’s in a very conflicted place by the end of the series. As stated in this video, Cat isn’t sure she’s ready to date Robbie but doesn’t want him dating anyone else either. However, she does admit to Robbie at the school dance that she was unnecessarily jealous of the fact that he brought another date. She also said she should have just said yes when he asked her to be his date. I would want to see at least one more episode of Victorious for many reasons, but in terms of the content of this video, I would want Cat and Robbie to finally have a serious conversation about the feelings they have for each other and finally agree to start dating.
"No I don't want to see it again!"
How did THAT get past the censors?!
The pirate game couldn't be that bad like Robby feeling her up or anything else because the other characters won't just play it off as a joke
Jade gets upset with him when she thinks that he tried to play pirates with Cat, and in the scene at Tori’s house, she makes a visibly angry/annoyed/disgusted face after Cat says, “I don’t like the way you play pirates.” But, then again, this whole interpretation is pure conjecture, and I might be projecting something bad onto it because of my own experiences with guys who have some of Robbie’s creepier tendencies. I hope that you’re right, though, because Cat doesn’t deserve to be hurt like that.
@@thatoneperson8593 yeah I know but if one of your friends was taking advantage of another friend would you just say don't do that and keep them in the friend group and never address the problem properly?
@@silvertongue.242_99 Definitely not, and I totally see what you’re saying, but I know that similar things have happened to me. It’s very situational, but with the right person getting harassed, sometimes the perpetrator gets a pass. Like, every time it happened, as frightened and upset as I was, after telling a trusted friend what had happened to get it off of my chest, I’d beg them not to say anything to the person who had done it, and I’d beg them not to tell a teacher, because I was afraid of what would happen if he found out that I told. I was afraid that he’d be angry and hurt me or tell lies about me, or any number of other things. As much as my friends tried to get me to say something, I just couldn’t bring myself to get the guys in trouble. Even when I finally told my Algebra teacher and asked her if she could just keep the person away from me, I begged her not to tell the principal or do anything that could get the person in trouble, because I was afraid, and I’d feel bad if they got in trouble just because I was uncomfortable with the way they touched me and talked to me. Because, like, I never explicitly said no(out of fear, but still), so I felt that maybe the guys didn’t even know that what they were doing was wrong, even though my body language and such was very clearly that of fear and discomfort. Now, it’s probably not canonically that deep😂😂, but yeah. It’s probably just some joke involving Cat’s innocence and Robbie’s creepiness. But what’s really concerning to me is that that sexual innuendo seems absolutely intended, yet their relationship is still portrayed as desirable and acceptable. I don’t know, Dan Schneider really was out here with the creepy stuff😭😂. I feel like the really concerning part, outside of any canonical interpretation or consequence thereof, is the real-world implication that things like that are meant to be nothing but throwaway jokes. But, I don’t know; I might just be getting up onto my soapbox about nothing. But, yeah, it’s just ehh, kind of spooky scary. I’m probably definitely getting too deep with it, though🤦🏽♀️😂.
@@thatoneperson8593 it's ok good to get it out there you are right though. Sad to hear no one took a stronger push to help you. Cause I would have confronted them for my friend. Yeah I do think the sexual innuendo is inappropriate and set a pretty creepy tone. Maybe I just hoping it isn't bad canonical in the show, cause it would make them keep robbie in the friend group more baffling. Cause the characters act it more as a joke tbh. Glad you shared your story and feelings on the matter 💕
Also if they are making you feel uncomfortable you should get them in trouble! Even if you feel bad or iffy about it ain't fair, it would help solve the problem eventually
thanks so much for the upload and also because this is uploaded on my bday and this is the best victorious couple this was a great present!
Happy birthday!
@@JayniacJr thank u :)
I you were forgetting one key point in this video. We can see A LOT of Robbie's inappropriate behavior through Rex. Rex is constantly catcalling, making inappropriate comments, and overall just a little vulgar at times and because Robbie is speaking through Rex we can only assume this is what Robbie is thinking or feeling. So it should come as no surprise when he acts inappropriately towards a girl he really does like. He probably has no idea of expressing that any other way.
"No! I don't want to see that thing again!" Hol' Up.....
Dude, I love your analyses! Thanks for putting their interactions in perspective. I really enjoyed this one! :D
I think if the series wouldn’t have been cancelled, Cat and Robbie would’ve been something. Or at least have a little more history to their relationship. I think Robbie always loved Cat for how weird she is, and sees her as extraordinary and unique in the most lovely way. Cat liked the attention Robbie always gave her, but then she discovers feelings for Robbie that confuse her. That’s why she ran away after the kiss. If I had a guy best friend and out of nowhere he kissed me I would also ran away because of how I felt and what might occur to our friendship. And I think that’s exactly what Cat felt. But since they made Tori the star, we couldn’t even see what happened after that in the next episode.
This show gives us the false sense that it is an ensemble show and all characters get to be the star of an episode every so often. This isn’t the case. It has been well established that the show is directly from Tori’s point of view which is why it looks like she’s butting into everyone’s lives even if they don’t want her help. I too would have wanted at least the B plot of the very next episode to be Robbie wanting to talk to Cat about the kiss and why she ran away. This would force Cat to confront her feelings for Robbie. By the end of the episode they would have made a decision one way or another as to whether or not they would begin dating. Of course their whole would this ruin the friendship thing would be discussed. Even if Cat told Robbie she wasn’t ready to date him, he would ask her if she would ever in the future want to date him and I would hope she would say either maybe or yes, but that she has some personal issues to sort out first (I.E. whatever her brother did to her overtime to make her wary of forming relationships with others especially romantic ones). I would also hope Robbie would say he would be there for her in any way possible. He would say something like “whatever you want me to do I will do and whatever you don’t want me to do I won’t do.” But they wouldn’t stop being friends. It would be like a less aggressive version of Freddie in iCarly having a crush on Carly but her only wanting to be friends and Freddie coming on pretty strong for most of the first season and a bit again after he and Sam break up. I know Cat and Freddie would end up together one day, they just both have to be on the same page.
I always picked up Robbie’s crush on Kat and the fact we were never an official couple on the show is a tragedy
Excited for the Courtney analysis! I haven't been commenting often, but I just want to say I have been keeping up with the videos! They have been very good and insightful!
Yay, thank you!
No matter how you look at it it never changes the fact that Robbie needs therapy 👁👄👁
Am I the only one who whatched this show with my mom and I asked what snoodling was and she said you'll find out what it is when your older and she didn't let me whatch the show anymore and I was sad😟
i feel like he did something bad playing “pirates” and cat told jade being clueless about what was wrong with it. and jade told her what was wrong with it and told her not to tell anybody. that’s why u always see jade carrying colouring books or keys for her when she starts to talk to much
I love them together I feel they are both weird so it works.
anyone remember how that one episode where jade went to cats house in sam and cat and then sam and jade hung out, and jade told sam that cat had a crush on robbie for years???
Seriously, though, how does Robbie play pirates? 🤨
That’s what I’m wondering 🤔
For all we know he may yelled argg at her
I feel it was like how kids play doctor. In doctor your both willing the whole time, so I figure he began pulling his pants down/looked up her dress and she was like "Nope! wrong kid of pirates."
A misunderstanding with a hint of skin seen, that was stopped before anyone did anything against anyones will.
notice how she covered her eyes when he tried to show her something. maybe he flashed her once lol
I think Robbie was just a tad bit weird, and maybe a bit too weird at times for Cat's taste. But at the same time, there's genuine love between em, and love that develops over time. I think that if it had been explored more, Robbie could've learned himself to be a bit less odd, and his relationship with Cat could've gotten even better.
This show is messed up when you think about it too much.
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IM just wondering how terrible that pirate game was to make cat so scared. or maybe im missing something. still a cute precious oblivious couple
Okay but there’s an episode where cat and Trina are rapping a song and cat stops singing and Trina ask why, cat then says the next line was inappropriate. Well I’m sure we all remember the episode where tori needs to get rides from everyone and ends up taking a party bus to school at the end but cat tells everyone and they all end up riding and rapping that same song. AND YOULL NEVER GUESS WHAT THE NEXT LINE WAS THAT CAT SAID WAS INAPPROPRIATE “I’m a pirate and you’re my booty”
I've always believed the reason their weird towards each other a lot is bc they actually have done the dirty with each other at least once or more than once lol. Theres a lot of times where you can see he's trying to convince her to kiss him or come home with him so in my mind he's either just sexual harassing her and she's just oblivious as always or they've done the dirty before and he's trying to get her to do it again when she doesn't want to until eventually she does catch feelings for him towards the end. Then in Sam & Cat he gets extremely jealous of Freddy when he thought Freddy was "messing around" with her then it totally didn't help when Cat said he could have if he wanted to lol you can just tell most of their interactions together always have a sexual innuendo
Let’s face it:
It’s a tween show.
I feel the ages of the characters help to figure out the demographic