Love how Ronny has gone the full circle. I feel like he is so credible because he has done all the big builds, he started with simple builds, now he is all about what is practical. I have watched most of his stuff for a long time. I feel like he is more relatable and knowledgeable now, more than ever. Great content.
I sold my car with jackoff aluminium canopy and internal setup, roof top tent, full electrical setup, lift kit, barwork and all the fruit, and bought a stock ute. Now we camp with a 4 man dome tent, gazebo with a matt under it, portable battery box with fridge plugged in. It's much more functional and way cheaper. The ONLY con is it takes us maybe 20-30 minutes longer to setup and pack down than before. A worthwhile trade off in my opinion, and suits our style of camping.
simple is sometimes easier, 7 years ago when i had just bought a house i was also somewhat pushed into taking long service leave. as you can guess. cash was a bit tight. i ended up buying a cheap colman tent, a cheap primus gas stove, along with a small no name fridge off ebay that had a battery. it worked out that the battery in the little cheap fridge was good for 12 hours. that setup and tired old V8 Commodore ute took me from mildura to north of cairns camping in cheap caravan parks as i did not have a duel battery. i just needed to recharge the fridge every 12 hours. plus the fridge was just a wee bit too big to fit in the passenger seat of the ute. hands down one of the best trips i have done
What an excellent video Ronnie. A voice of reason amongst the money grabbing noise that is the 4wd/camping industry at the moment. We got carried away even with our little set up, but have recently pulled things back so we can actually enjoy the simplicity of camping without having to remember how all the fancy stuff works. 😊
All-in-one power stations are a good idiot-proof alternative for a 2nd battery. With a built in charger and inverter it's just so simple. Easy to take inside your home to use during blackouts too.
I've followed most of this advice. Saved me heaps. Good thing about buying these options is that you get out there first, then you have the cash and knowledge to upgrade the things you really want!
I understand why the Canadians love their rooftop tents. Bears, wolves, moose…….it pays to off be the ground. Here in Australia, the drop bears will get you anywhere.
50 km south from QLD-NSW border there is a rest stop on M1 with usual set - toilet, gazebo, couple of tables, simple kids playground... and big placard on the playground fence - BEWARE OF SNAKES! I have a bad suspiction that it was snakes who financed all this bait for silly humans.
Boxes absolutely! I wanted drawers for a while even if I didn’t know what I wanted to put in them. ended up throwing my steel army box in there and put some smaller boxes inside to organize it a bit and it’s so nice. my jack, air compressor, misc tools, fire extinguisher, and tire repair all fits inside. Just labeled the boxes inside the box so I know where everything is. and it left room on the other side of the hatch for my camping kit for when I go out for a weekend! Boxes are the best
I’m familiar with NATO ammo cans, but I can’t picture the Army box you’re referring to. Any chance you could post a pic or share a link to one? I’ve used the heavy duty plastic totes and other containers like this, but this sounds like a great piece for this setup. Much more durable.
For the (JB74 JIMNY 3 Door owners) and Ronny’s the long range tank segment. I’ve had the longer ranger fuel tank fitted for just over 7 months now and yes your L/100 goes up and your range on your instrument cluster isn’t correct. But the little blocks indicating remaining fuel at the bottom of your cluster are correct. This is without a doubt best thing I’ve done next to a 40mm lift and AT tyres. The pros outweigh the cons with this mod. It has more weight lower down and makes its centre of mass waaaaaay more stable. Not to mention having to fill up every 800+k’s is so nice!
We love all the portable stuff, compressor, boxes, and stuff like that, because it all comes out of the vehicle when we get home. If I had all the fixings IN my Jeep, and it got stolen... I lose everything. But then, it also frees up tons of space when I'm around town. We also run a Ground tent cuz we don't have to worry about being off the ground... And we like it.
I'm definitely the cheap guy in all of this lol. The portable air compressor that plugs into the vehicle for power, a couple portable power banks, old tool boxes I got at garage sales for my gear, a couple tarps with a dozen tarp clips and bungee rope to attach it to my vehicle and to a couple collapsible poles which used to be tent poles for an old Coleman tent I got for free, a Teton ground tent with a ground pad and sleeping bag as well as a hammock. While most of my stuff may take more time to set up and take down, it's very versatile whether I want to connect it to my vehicle to make it a part of my camp set up or away from the vehicle as a base camp set up. The other nice thing is, it's not heavy, can be organized to maximize the limited space I have available. I think videos like this are fantastic for those who need ideas depending if this is just a once in a while thing or a lifestyle.
I'm cheap too. One time I went to the Dollar Tree to grab some essentials and camped at the Grand Canyon. We humans don't need a lot of stuff to get outside.My old Yeti cooler from 2017 is still fine. I don't need a Dometic fridge, a coffee machine, and a paper towel holder.
another alternative for the 270 awning is just a 4x4m tarp. I attach one corner to my roof rack above the driver side door, drag the tarp over the roof then use the 2 pole method and 5 guide lines. Takes about a few minutes longer but not that much different if your pegging down your awning. Water drains well, you can also set it up freestanding as a base and costs a fraction compared to an awning
Great video, Ronny! I'm glad to see that I've already been using three out of these ten tips, mostly focusing on weight saving. I opted for roof bars over a roof rack due to the latter's dead weight of around 20kg. Storage boxes allow for quick reconfiguration of my 4x4 and help save fuel during mall crawls. The Gazebo Box adds flexibility for base camp setups while keeping weight down. With a max strap and shovel, you can get out of almost any situation. There's also a product called Bog Out, which can be used as an improvised winch. For sleeping, i do use OZtrail Blockout Stretcher Tent.
Great tips as always. Along the same thought process as a removable battery, get a handheld 5w UHF radio instead of the in vehicle mounted one. No install costs needed and still work perfectly for talking to truckies, pilot vehicles and other folks in your convoy.
You know this is not a stupid idea, I do this for day trip or overnighters... Fridge only goes in for long trips.... Instead of ice use the gel ice packs. The good ones last a good 3 days in a quality Esky and you don't end up with soggy stuff.
Number one. PLB. The Zoleo allows you to make contact via messaging through your phone as well a being an emergency beacon. Similar cost. Works a treat. Thanks Ronny
Absolutely quality episode. Perfect timing…. In a world of ‘must have’s’ , you have created awareness of what you actually need. Hats off to you for making an episode of practicality over ‘must have’s’ Wishing you the best into the future (what ever that evolves into..)
I don't have the money for a winch, so I've bought the good old Farm Jack High Lift with a propper recovery sling. Now I can winch myself out with just a few crancks.
One hell of a video. Practical versus indulgent. I have a single half height ARB drawer in the back of my D22 ute with a 120AH battery box hooked up to a solar panel. The rest of the ute back gets boxes, tent, fishing gear, camping gear and recovery gear. Once emptied, all that is left is the drawer with a fridge on it allowing me to use the tray area for work.
Brilliant video Ronny, Last year I made a lot of changes to my 4x4 and did what you have discussed in the video. I now have boxes, roof bars and use a tent and gazebo and its brilliant. No regrets doing so, it's very easy to fall into the trap of thinking you need something. Keep up the great videos.
Been 4WDRIVING and camping/ hiking all over Australia since a kid in the 1970's. The Kimberly, Pilbara, NT, remote SA, FNQ and everywhere inbetween.,..way back in the late 70's all through the 80's/90's and still enjoying it! Way before mobile phones, navigation systems, bitumen roads, solar panels, inverters, lithium batteries, awnings, tourism and any modern technology that's commonplace these days that has totally changed what used to be REALLY remote areas into now being common tourist/retiree freeways. I'm currently rebuilding an '88 GQ TD42 Wagon and using all of my years of experience in doing many of the things you have mentioned here 👍 Bonus is that it's very simple, cheap and lightweight to 4WD/Camp for months on end in complete comfort without a single modern accessory complicating things and weighing the vehicle down. The GQ is on the way to being able to be fully loaded with all my the gear for a 3 month trip and yet go over the weighbridge at least a whole tonne lighter than the GVM of the standard factory Wagon! Certainly don't need to keep up with all the latest trends and fashionable non necessary equipment to survive out the bush for extended periods......and the weight savings do wonders for proper off road performance, fuel savings and less risk of wearing out/breaking your vehicle 👍👌🇭🇲
This is why Ronny has the best 4x4 channel on the you tubes. Absolutely brilliant. All the content is always well thought and based on HIS actual experience, not just some marketing item description. Keep up the good work Ronny.
I started traveling in the late 1970s, and of course I took the kitchen sink and the sofa too (lol), as I went on the list and the weight got less and less and less. The conclusion is that, you need a lot less than you think, I ended up liking the K.I.S.S. (KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!) a lot and it has served me well. Less is actually better and It doesn't need to be that expensive. So the best practice is, put everything you absolutely need on a big sheet,.... Than, half it, then..... HALVE it again! Then what you have left you'll find after your trip most of it you never used. This advice came from a German that travelled the world several times on a motorbike an XT500 in the 1970s.
I’m a weekend warrior and i have a tent, a canvas tarp and poles (instead of a gazebo), a good insulation esky(no fridge or battery), boxes for organising. Love the setup - especially when the car park is away from the campsite or you want to use the car after setting up camp. … and my plb
Brilliant video. I’ve been doing most of these, and saved thousands. Those expensive items seemed SO IMPORTANT to me, until I got by without them for a couple of years and realized how much I was saving. I’m still on the fence on extended range. I use Jerries; but I may still buy a second tank. Only disagreement is on the winch. I’ve had very little success with traction boards in snow and mud. Used my winch a LOT (and shovels, jacks, etc.). I’ve mostly used traction boards to bridge ruts (lift wheel, slide board under), support a jack. TOTALLY AGREE on the others.
I'm so happy living in a MQ Patrol for one month now. Just less than 8.000€ vehicle, restoration and mods all together, incuiding roof conversion and inside shower. So sad you are not comming to Canary Islands for a modified episode. Love your videos, cheers
Versatility and needs. Those are big one. When someone is starting, my questions turn around their needs and what they want to do. Start minimalist and upgrade with time even more when there.s kid involve. We all are attracted to those shiny object but I went down from a drawer system to a shelf and boxes in the back of my vehicle. Good episode 👍🏻
Great video Ron. Very sensible stuff. A couple of comments. I think you should consider using a 1 pole canvas tent at least once. Our 9 foot by 9 foot tent takes up less space than 1 swag. When it is hot we just sleep on the ground with a mossie net. Mossie nets are $15. I use heavy duty swag mattresses too. It does take about 10 minutes to set up our 1 pole tent and to pack it down. You can fit 4 people in it, so it is a hell of lot of space saved than 4 swags. You can stand up to get changed, which is really important when your knees don't work so well. They are far better in the rain. When alone with your significant other, sex much better than in a swag. I have a series of roof bars which I mainly use. When I head north to the heat I change to my roof cage system. It is set "high" (about 120mm) above the vehicle. it has a lightweight floor in it that acts like a sunshade, or hat for the vehicle. The amount of heat it stops coming into the vehicle is terrific and that helps the fridge freezer keep working. I have a custom made, dust proof canvas "bag" that fits into the roof cage so I can carry a lot of light stuff up there, (like extra swag mattresses and extra tables and chairs when the gang comes to). I have a winch which I use mainly to recover my boat trailer off beaches. I always have 2 manual hand winches, one heavy (1.6 ton), 1 light.. You really should talk about the use of bladders (water and fuel). They can save a lot of problems and cost for those who travel this country rarely. And of course you can move them from vehicle to vehicle. You should also consider a bit of a break down about the choices in various different types of weaponry. Knives, axes, brush axes, (which everyone seems to have forgotten about) and of course spears. If you go to the northern section of this country, you really should have, or the implements to fashion, at least two types of spears. I am not talking about fish spears here. I have a few mates who can do that, but I am not that good. Cheers.
Good tips Ronny ,145 ltr long range tank $2000,200 ltr portable diesel fuel tank with electric pump and bowser filler ,lockable $750 and I store it in my shed ,no Jerry cans ties nicely into my tub for long range remote trips
I'm amazed at the prices you quoted. My napa knock off compressor was $100, my diy 4 tire hose kit with gauge was $120 with bag, nowhere near the price you quoted, yet faster than an ARB twin setup. Same for my battery setup. I have maybe $2000 into the complete system including the 400AH server rack battery, 500W of solar mounted to the vehicle, wiring, DC-DC/MPPT charge controller, 2000W pure sine inverter with remote display and power switch, 12V fuse panel, bus bars, Class T fuse, breakers, and all the wiring is OFC 1/0 double insulated welding cable. The battery alone is $1000. Australia must be super expensive compared to the US. My winch was only $800 with the mount, too. I also cant fathom spending thousands on a RTT or drawers,,, I built a custom interior in my suburban with a high quality mattress, custom shelves, lighting, maxxair fan, fridge/freezer, microwave, starlink, power ports throughout, and even added molle panels for gear on the back of my seats for less than $4000. I could probably redo this build for $15,000 including the vehicle, lift, lights, locker, wheels/tires, and everything else I listed here plus my rooftop storage boxes, rooftop water tank, 8x10ft awning, hitch mount cargo basket. The prices out there are absurd. It might be cheaper to buy/build a vehicle here and ship it there.
You’ve Just described my grenadier build, Ronny. I’ve done it all for $15K on top of the purchase price of the truck. Roof rack 270 awning Custom drawers Onboard air Aux fuel Dual batteries The works! No winch yet…. Need to dig through the couch cushions for some spare change and buy one of those still.
I built a drawer system that used standard sized boxes for the best of both worlds. Fill the boxes at home, drop them into the drawer system and go. I have boxes for kitchen and cooking stuff, tools, dog stuff, bike stuff etc... Just swap in whatever I need for any given trip.
I have a 4m x 4m Canvas tarp and simple but strong modular frame. I added numerous anchor points to the rack on my van. I can setup in multiple directions and account for different weather conditions and orientations. Most often it acts as a roof and wall (to the weather)2m H 2m W and 4m L off the back of the van It becomes our outdoor kitchen and lounge room leaving the bedroom (aka Van) clean. It's been in some wild weather and we've never gotten wet or blown out. I can also drive away from the setup leaving it free standing. Takes 20 mins to setup and 15 mins to drop and go.
Awesome Ronny, i have done much of what you mentioned myself, but there are a few other options id like you to explore if possible, as follows; WINCH: Have you ever tested the Bogout Rope ladder recover system? Worth looking at maybe and various ways of connecting to the fixed recovery point? Chain or adjustable rope length? 270 AWNING: instead of the awning or the heavy bulky awning, I use a 6.5m x 5.5m Drifta Hexatarp. Takes 5 min to setup, my Oztent RV4 goes under it, and i can back my Cruiser under it and use my slide out kitchen while also under cover. The tarp and poles pack up in a small bag and go jn the car for approx $300. I love the setup and my tent stays dry and less effected by wind. DRAWES: yep, i use a couple of Dune 50L watertight boxes plus a Mogu Kitchen Caddy. Boxed also make great seats and coffee tables at camp. Yep, the boxes come out and car is back to normal. Very versatile & cheap. If need be i can strap them to my Slim aluminium tray that can also carry the Oztent. ROOF RACK: yep, 3 Thule Bars, plus a Drifta Ali Roof Tray for the Oztent RV4. Tent can go on the tray, or on the 3 roof bars if i need the tray to carry boxes, gas or fuel. Very versatile. I can also carry a couple of kayaks if im paddling while away. There is so food for thought for others?
I use a hiking tent instead of a swag sometimes. It's not as comfortable, but it's super light weight and fits into a backpack. I can fit my whole setup in a hiking bag (at least the essentials) so I can go camping without my vehicle if i want. Lets me camp in some places that i otherwise wouldnt be able too.
Very cool. hiking trigg stoves are pretty cool too, especially the old pump up solid fuel ones, not the gas ones. The old solid fuel ones last for about 2.5 days heavy use and it is easy to carry more solid fuel. Cheers
I did everything right in the first build. Love my Hybrid hardshell RTT on Rhinorack roofbars. Got a good mobile compressor and a decent portable power system, but I can charge it in my Jeep. I'm building a slide out coller/freezer, and the rest fits in boxes. I can put an awning on my RTT and got a tarp and tentsticks to make an awning on the back. It's not more work than building a canopie. Thanx for confirming my ideas. My Jeeper friends only show off their expensive set up.
Great vid Ronny... getting a bit tired myself from watching 100k plus tricked rigs with all the cool add ons doing trips. Isn't going off roading or going bush about doing it cheaply and with the basic " essential " gear. Good on yer mate to highlighting this.
nice work - I set up my paj so everything is removable. Cars come and go (by design or necessity) but my gear mostly comes with me. Ive a rear awning tent which suits me perfectly (can't seem to get them much now). The thing that irks me though are winches. People use them without any training or experience. They can be very dangerous if used incorrectly or safety precautions are not taken. Just remember - your safety area for people not directly involved in winching is 1.5 times the length of the extended cable in 360 degrees
and alternate to the PLB/EPIRB/stat phone is the Garmin inreach. You can get it as a full handheld gps or in the mini, This will have the emergency help button as well as the ability to send text messages from your phone. (subcripition fees are yearly or monthly so only pay when you need to) Its dearer than the PLB but cheaper than the statphone with a bonus of using it with a table or phone for the gps receiver.
@@oggyoggy1299it’s only the latest iPhone and I *think* it’s only in the US atm. I’ve been using a spot-x for years. It’s satellite so you can send and receive sms anywhere.
Sometimes its just the looks you want to go for, I am waiting on my diamondback cover and have some ideas for racks etc eventually. I need a bullguard around here since I live in the PNW where we have elk, deer, bear and everything else to jump out at you.
Awesome stuff Ronny. I get the point of this video was cheaper alternatives but its all great stuff for us with daily driver 4wds. With daily commuting you probably shouldn't be loading your car up with $10-$20k accessories which increase the weight. Especially if you only use them a few times a year. Im off to go shop for a portable battery system haha.
Great tips Ronny. In the last 2 years building up a 76 I've made most if the same decisions except for the drawer system. But that still cost me 30 % less by shopping around a bit and installing it myself. 4 roof bars do the trick. I've got an slu box on top plus I can add an extra spare tyre if I need to. The soft RTT has a lot of benefits (much more choice!) and only one negative. I've added a tarp to the side (cheap, lightweight).
I really like the tarp to the side idea. I buy canvas truck tarps online for less than $70 and carry ridge poles I make out of Oregon that I make to fit the tarp and tent poles. I make my own heavy duty tent pegs out of Reo, (normally 14 mm). You don't need many poles or pegs then, which is way better. Far less tripping hazards. Cheers.
@@markthomas8766 Tarps are great, it's just a matter of finding the right one/ size. Easy fix to the roof bars and 2 poles will do. Well done with the poles and pegs.
To an extent I like it. One of the things I will certainly agree with is the portable Battery Box!! I have one that I put in a 93 Pathfinder and now have in my 2012 Frontier. Very versatile and helped me with planning the build. One thing I disagree with is the Navigation. As one who has both the Garmin Overlander and the Garmin Tread Overland, I can say that they are far superior to any tablet that you put software on for offline travel. Even though they are pricey, I would highly recommend a good name brand Navigation unit like a Garmin any day. For the fuel I can certainly see it. Yes it is an expensive thing to do, but if one is doing any kind of Touring/Overlanding, then I feel I becomes well worth it in the end. If you are a weekend warrior that goes out a couple times a year at best and do not tow at all, then I will agree with some Jerry Cans of sorts
Most if not all of these are cheaper options to get started. If you think you need more range, get some cans. If you have to actually use them often then consider upgrading the tank. Some people have money to just get everything top of the line, in case they happen to ened that thing. Most of us are on a budget and need to look for cheaper alternatives, at least to start and then later upgrade piece by piece :)
@@ssu7653 nothing wrong with being on a budget. Part of why I like this particular hobby as it allows me to get things as I go vs having to buy every little thing before heading out. Also a good bit of 4wd vehicles have a standard range of around 300-350 miles on a full tank from the factory when doing OffRoad Travel. Depending on whether or not you are Touring or just going to to do Rock Crawling(because some will do just that) will depend if you need the extra range. Also keep in mind that some vehicles may not have the room for a bunch of fuel cans especially when you need water storage as well.
This is a really great video... Things don't have to be expensive or complicated to get out and enjoy the county. Also, many of these options let you use your daily driver without compromising its utility as a daily driver.
Absolutely loved this vid! And pretty chuffed that a few of these I've done myself because I realised that... I just don't need the big expensive thing that I'm seeing in all the 4wd youtube content. Currently have drawers in the back of my Prado, and have considered just going back to boxes - I'm a family man with a family car, and a wagon with a lot of room is bloody handy! Also, it's really good to know that the cheaper Nav options work out so well for people - really ummed and aah'd about getting a Garmin before a recent big trip up north. Just used offline google maps, and you know what... it led us down fewer dead ends than my mates HEMA device!
I'm with you on a lot of those, in fact I've gone for a similar 12v in my 80 but few items I'd like to throw in/challenge. -Winch; tbh you could get a decent one from SCA, or the other thing could be a Turfer which yeah not as convenient and imo a bit more dangerous to use but still cheaper than some winches. -270 awning; Next time Freestanding will be a must for me as my current Ironman straight out awning is a bit of a dog to set up. I'd say another option could be a 180 awning that you could say get a tarp or a canvas section you could tie to your roof rack and the rear extension and just get a pole, guide rope and just peg it down to cover the rear. Especially with vehicles with canopy tailgates, wouldn't have to worry about height clearance. And Draws, yup bins are handy but a top mount cargo shelf would be pretty good as well. And plywood draws you can adapt to make the most of your space vs cookie cutter ones. Not to mention WAAAAY cheaper!!!
For the satellite phone replacement another option is the starlink mobile plans either $80 a month for 50GB or $179 for unlimited with the option to pause the plan means you can have an internet and mobile phone connection (wifi calling) now while away camping
Good review mate, I have done 9 of those top 10's just missing the air compressor. And you do, you save a ton of money, The soft shell roof top tent I have had for 2 years now is awesome, no down sides except it reduced my range by 25klm over a 650klm tank initially, so not bad, and now after 2 years and the 2018 vehicle is slightly older, the klm difference is not even noticeable as the range has increased over time. I don't know of any hard shells that have a full king size bed like the Hanger tent I have does. the only thing I can think you missed was a cheap washing up kit, Coleman do a complete set up for $40 that is perfect for 2 people, even has a battery operated water pump to fill up. And a battery or solar operated shower, Coleman do a cheap cheap one at $14 (solar), just hang the bastard up for the day and by the end it hot enough to shower in. Again good review
The straight pull out awnings are fantastic when you add an annexe to them so you have a covered in area to use if it rains or if the flies and mozzies are driving you nuts. We have three of them, one on the 4x4 and 2 on the little camping trailer we tow behind onsome trips. They are really easy to set up and have a decent amount of room inside.
I just picked up a new style Ironman awning room in Pacific NW and used it straight away for a trip across the Cascades and back up to NW BC. Handled wind and rain fine. Handier than a tent when space and time is limited and a fully sealed bug room for dinner as well as sleeping.
Good points for roof bars vs racks... I have always preferred bars for their lower weight and easier to tie long things to... but one thing I think you missed is that bars + a long enough and strong enough wire basket can weigh less than a rack and gives you the option when you want to carry a gas bottle and/or fuel when you need it.
The other part about attached conopies i don't see much discussion about, is they are great if you are working around your truck, keeping rain and sun off you, but is not really helpful if you have chairs out and are looking for either protection from the sun or weather. Typically, that is not done right upside the truck. This is where a stand-alone canopy comes into play.
Well done, way too many people think that to enjoy Australia you need to spend $150K - $200k on a bells and whistles solution. Most of your Top 10 are my essentials for camping. My two luxury items are a portable toilet and a good set of camp lights (I swear by the HardKorr lights).
We take trips lasting up to several weeks. we like mountains and desert. We get Weather. We had a gazebo simply collapse under the weight of the rain in Arkansas. I do travel with a gazebo, but the OVS 180 awning does the day to day work. Goes up in moderately strong winds, keeps the sun off, its ust big enough that we can pitch the tent under it and move it into position. Expensive, but worth it. A 700AH battery should really be all you need to keep a fridge cold for several days. These are affordable, the well designed ones let you charge while driving while the fridge is plugged in (see the Hobotech for reviews). If yo need more than that, maybe it's time to lighten the load.
We have taken the cheaper option on almost all of your 10 items. We did get a long range fuel tank and it’s my biggest regret. We don’t use a rooftop tent. But yeah, PLB, portable battery, cheap side awning, roof bars etc. we don’t do the hardcore stuff you do but we do get out there. People waste too much money on gear they don’t need. Great video. Love that you’re keeping it real.
@@sickdevs you hit the nail on the head. It’s great having 40L extra in the tank. But we lost 20-40mm of clearance in the process. If I was making that choice now I would mount Jerry cans.
@@CampAndDriveAustralia thought that would be it, and it’s why I haven’t fitted one. I’m not going really remote and although it’s annoying filling up more often I don’t want to run big tires and the ground clearance loss would be a pain. Cheers
@@sickdevs yeah I don’t want the big tyres either. But I need a 40mm lift just to get back to factory clearance. And I find the stock springs on the Pajero are a bit too soft when the vehicle has weight in the back anyway.
I agree with the GPS system. A new tablet with Cellular can be had for just over $100 (Android based) and can do many more things than a dedicated GPS alone. A drawer system is another one - the weight of a drawer system alone is often that of a large adult. Having recently purchased several Wolfpack Pro boxes (amazing!), Im looking to remove the drawers from the wagon and reassess the whole rear storage. My current challenge is working out where and how to best mount water tank and fridge.
@@pantoqwerty agree, dont own a tablet with cellular. These cheap tablets come with it now as standard and up to 1TB of storage so just don't drop a sim into it.
Hi Ronny, love your videos. Just thought I'd point out some more options for the hardshell rooftop tents. I have a cheap Chinese version of an iKamper mini which are normally priced at around $5000, mine cost $1500 second hard but normally around $2500 new. This design can be much larger when opened up and compared to the longer clam shell style. The biggest draw back I think is that they're taller or thicker when closed. But to me they're far superior if you want a smaller footprint to fit over the tray or tub section of a duel cab Ute. Versions I liked but didn't purchase because of weight were ones like the 23-Zero 1600 Panther, which isn't overly heavy.
Very interesting as I have an old subaru forester for basic camping. We have a much modified and strengthened Kings awning, it works now like it was supposed to, on the roof is 4 roof bars. And I have a 35l fridge in the back on a simple slide out platform, with a 40ah Companion Lithium battery which charges as we drive and powers the fridge for 3 days free standing. A simple propane cooker, and milk crate for some basic cooking gear. A instant up 4 man tent and it works for us with an inflatable mattress and is cheap
I’m not sure if this is the proper name for it, but here in the Southeastern US, we call them a ComeAlong. It’s a self contained ratcheting manual winch device. With a properly rated rope or strap around a solid anchor it will lift a vehicle off the ground. Available here at any farm supply store, it’s cheap, requires no power system, portable, and doesn’t require much gear to use. All in with necessary recovery gear it’s more expensive than recovery boards, but less than a farm jack with the same recovery gear or a proper winch setup. Farm jack is multipurpose though. 😁 If you’re looking to eventually get a winch in the future, all the same recovery gear can be used with a winch and if you buy a synthetic winch line to use with the come along, it can be installed on your winch if it’s kept in good condition with the new line from the winch stored as a backup winch line if it breaks.
Thanks for the tips, I am planning a 1st big trip from Sydney to Perth (and back) trip in October and I love the more affordable options. Not everyone can or want to spend 100 of 1000's on car's and camping gear. Great content keep making those!
I opted to make a sleep platform in my rig. Storage/ organization and I'm off the ground and it's cheaper than even the soft roof top tent. I built the platform myself it's just big enough to fit 4 milk crates which are also a cheaper alternative to some storage boxes but they're not sealed so I cant easily protect that stuff from getting dusty.
Great list. It's nice to see videos about alternatives to tools that often require other tools or reconfiguring the rig setup. Instead of a winch I carry a Wyeth-Scott Power Puller (synthetic 35 foot (10.6m) rope with a 12000 lbs (5450 kilo) rating). I've used it to get a car out of a ditch, pulled up a small tree in my yard, and did some trail repair bodywork when I crunched into a rock on a muddy trail. I also use traction boards, but largely to level my vehicle.
I have 6x10 cargo trailer I converted to a camper and toy hauler and wanted an awning and didn't want to spend 1000 or more so I made my own with a 8x12 canvas tarp, angle iron from an old bed frame, some exhaust flange flange clamps, a stick on 2 inch metal pipe and 2 couplers. Cost me under 250 bucks.
Lol, you literally described MY camping equipment. Although, i do have a 200W solar blanket for the portable battery. Basecamp gazebo, two pods, fridge and collapsable bigW kitchen/pantry. Its not about what you bring to the camp, its what experience you take away from the camp!
Thanks for a great video. Have subscribed to your reviews. I have the December 2023 model pro4x and it has been fantastic. I took advantage of the 1% Nissan finance offer so for $185 a week this new car was a no brainer. It looks amazing and for a little extra you can really upgrade these to make them how you like. For not much money I added wireless CarPlay which is fine, under seat led lighting and red aluminium trims to vents and carbon fibre stick on upgrades around the interior and red stitching tape to improve the highlights of the door trims, led illuminated door sill plates that makes it attractive for me to drive. Next month will be adding winch, spotlights and steel hoop less bar that will look refreshingly different to the warrior and for less money
There are combination cot/tents available for a few hundred bucks, for those that want to be off the ground but don't want to mount anything on top of their vehicle. That way you can just fold it and throw it in the back of your truck or SUV. Better for CG when wheeling, better for drag when driving on the highway.
In defence of the peg-out 270 awning vs the free-standing. It's not just the cost: it's also the WEIGHT. I run a hardshell rooftop tent and I like having a 270. (I'm in Tassie: we have this thing called 'rain'. Something of a foreign concept to folks in WA, but we see a LOT of it. So the 270 is often the difference between a wet camp and No Worries.) I've got a dynamic load rating on my canopy of 100kgs and the RTT is an Alu-Cab. So probably 80kgs with bedding in it. My 270 is first-gen, old-school, peg-out Foxwing. It weighs only about 17kgs. I bought it second-hand about 10 years ago. So if the wind grabs it, it owes me nothing. A sudden West Coast Tas wind squall will take even your $$ Bush Co 270. And as nice as that Bush Co awning is, the bugger weighs 34kgs! The peg-out 270 is not for everyone everywhere. But some of us have our reasons.
Ive been followi g your content for a couple of weeks really enjoy the insight to 4wd in australia , new sub. Love your honest opinions. Keep it up mate.
A retractable air line with the portable compressor is a great option. No need to coil up the line after using it and the mini reels are compact. There's also a really nice arm rest/side pocket that you can get for a very reasonable price. I think its from that Ronny Dahl fella, hit him up!
Agree with these options but also suggest trying and make do with what you already have for as long as possible before upgrading, then pick and choose what you really need depending on what frustrates you the most with current set-up. Also, if you really want more expensive option, making do with what you have lets you keep an eye out for good second hand items that pop up... I picked up a set of Drifta drawers for $500 (instead of $2.5k) for my Prado, removed rear seats/ built false floor myself (all bolted into to factory holes, using materials from previous parcel shelf/ tub set-up). 270 awning was another story though, 3m gazebo was fine for my needs previously, but recently upgraded to Darche freestanding 270 on Racksbrax HD mounts. Expensive in comparison but quick set-up amd beong able to take it off my vehicle between trips is perfect for my needs. Whatever works for you i guess, just avoid falling for all the "gamechanger"/ "must-have" hype... 🤷🏽♂️
been roadtripping onroad and offroad for over three decades. my favorite thing? My camp cot tent. Takes about 30 seconds to set up, fits in the boot, waterproof, off the ground and mine cost me $199. And it goes in the car so no drag = better fuel economy. If you need a driver reviver, stretching out full length and having a proper sleep is 100 times better than a nap on the back seat. And I remember back when your channel was starting out, you were doing a similar video about mods and you mentioned awnings and I said something like "yeah but I'm on a pension, I just a 6x4m tarp, some paracord and and some occy straps!" Just think, you save 5 grand on your fitout, that's most of the fuel for a big lap paid for!
I agree with the roof platform view, I went from bars to a full length platform and to be honest, it was a lot of $$ that didn't achieve much. I put my roof top tent on and there's no room for anything else.
Hi Ronnie, one correction. I have a portable battery systems in my boot, a Thumper 12v 90am lithium, and it charges from my alternator just like the fully built systems. Yes, it was another $280 to have it professionally installed but that’s all.
Some great alternatives there. As for Navigation I use Gaia GPS on my phone and it works with Android Auto/Apple Car Play so no need for a tablet. It's free for the base version and works a treat on & off road, walking trails etc etc.
The KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) principle goes a long way offroad. Those expensive drawer setups and complicated electrical fitouts are just adding weight and complexity exactly where you don't need it. It becomes a pi$$ing competition between everyone. Thanks for bringing it back to reality!
Ronny mate you should do a video covering clutches, standard & heavy duty options. There’s lots of videos out there but almost all of them are sponsored. It would be great to see a non biased video on clutch systems.
On the navigation side of things, I plan on installing an Android powered headunit which will let me use the free or fairly low cost navigation software. It also lets me run music streaming, engine scan software via bluetooth, and pretty much whatever else i would use a phone or tablet for. And the bluetooth pairing lets me take and make phonecalls safely aswell. The headunit i will be getting is about 800 bucks and is a fairly simple install, ive already done it and used it in my daily for almost a year now.
i too had the sat phone provider that fell in the black hole last year. was good at only $16 month with no cost for calls coming in or sms. nothing yet that nears that affordability with monthly costs at min of $40 and $2k for the hand set. spot locator is good with ability to suspend service if not venturing out. spot has options for 3 preset messages as in "im ok" , "need medical" or "need mechanical" all with google map location imagery and coords to recipients as you have set up by email,sms. great system but nothing beats a sat phone when right away from it all and voice message is vital. 76 series with false floor at rear, as seats wont go right down , with slide fridge on top 1 side and floor at height to accept cartons and specific size boxes underneath safely. plenty of variation at minimal cost.
Keder rail awning is a cheap alternative and way lighter too. I like having a winch on a hitch mount and then moving it to the front or rear as needed.
On the point of the roof basket vs bars, I have for a long time run with my half length steel roof basket as my top bar slots into it nicely, its one of the strongest small baskets I've encountered, has great tie down options around it, and I've had two full Jerrys, a small 5 kilo gas bottle, my spare wheel, some jarrah firewood and swag on, doing the Holland track, and it worked perfectly ........ Except for the last hr of driving into Hyden. Doing 100 to 110 kph around those rural area bends on the highway before town, I really felt a "very noticeable" weight shift / body roll. I even started backing down to 90 for safety which wasn't really fun for everyone else in the 7 car convoy. Even with just my spare wheel in the basket on some pretty sketchy climbs around Dwellingup and Mundaring and Harvey, having the weight of the basket and a 31 inch tyre and steel rim combo above the roof is a massive load when your front wheels start lifting off the ground. I have had to resort to throwing my spare in the back and tied down when I know I'll be bumping and dancing and lifting wheels up some "middle of nowhere" goat track. While my little rig is off the road ( engine and trans swap ) I've removed the heavy basket and light bar, and popped on a very lightweight and light gauge tubular basket temporarily, to see if it makes a huge difference when the vehicle is running and offroad again. And though it's less than half the weight of the old basket, I wouldn't trust it to jump on my rear wheel and hang off it while loading or unloading gear like I did with the old basket. The best option for me would be to find a way to custom fit the light roof basket directly to where the roof bars / roof racks attach, therefore lowering the lever affect ( body roll ), lessen wind resistance, and drop overall vehicle height for accessing carports or traversing fallen trees or tree limbs when out bush.. So the main point of all this is the having something heavy up top is also bad for offroad stability on uneven and steep tracks.
@@peterdrummond6860 he does have a video on the Garmin Overlander if you are interested. I have one myself and I can say that it is nice. I also have the Garmin Tread Overland(totally different unit) and I find it to be really nice. Both have their place and it really depends on what you are doing and how often you are traveling OffRoad.
I always calculate the cost per use and then set a budget. My roof tent was $1,500, and I aimed for $15 per night. So, I need to spend at least 100 nights on my roof.
The more you pay, the more convenient it is. I run an electric RTT, that I can keep my bedding in (setup and pack up time 1 min each ). A self supporting 270 degree awning ( 1 min setup, 2 min packup). So I can packup my vehicle for a day drive in 3 min. Total cost 8k. I pretty much go cheap on everything else.
Gazebos have the added benefit of being able to easily add bug mesh around the walls. THAT is a game changer in many parts of the world. And the price difference between a cheap gazebo and a nice gazebo is still WAY smaller than a fancy awning.
Refreshing to have someone telling the truth instead of building marketing hype around expensive solutions - respect Ronnie!
Love how Ronny has gone the full circle. I feel like he is so credible because he has done all the big builds, he started with simple builds, now he is all about what is practical.
I have watched most of his stuff for a long time. I feel like he is more relatable and knowledgeable now, more than ever.
Great content.
I like how these 4wd videos are gearing into budget options during this Aussie economic crisis.
Ronny knows his audience. It's bloody refreshing!!
I sold my car with jackoff aluminium canopy and internal setup, roof top tent, full electrical setup, lift kit, barwork and all the fruit, and bought a stock ute. Now we camp with a 4 man dome tent, gazebo with a matt under it, portable battery box with fridge plugged in.
It's much more functional and way cheaper. The ONLY con is it takes us maybe 20-30 minutes longer to setup and pack down than before. A worthwhile trade off in my opinion, and suits our style of camping.
Setting up camp is part of the fun anyway! Well done mate 👍🏼
simple is sometimes easier, 7 years ago when i had just bought a house i was also somewhat pushed into taking long service leave. as you can guess. cash was a bit tight. i ended up buying a cheap colman tent, a cheap primus gas stove, along with a small no name fridge off ebay that had a battery. it worked out that the battery in the little cheap fridge was good for 12 hours. that setup and tired old V8 Commodore ute took me from mildura to north of cairns camping in cheap caravan parks as i did not have a duel battery. i just needed to recharge the fridge every 12 hours. plus the fridge was just a wee bit too big to fit in the passenger seat of the ute. hands down one of the best trips i have done
What an excellent video Ronnie. A voice of reason amongst the money grabbing noise that is the 4wd/camping industry at the moment. We got carried away even with our little set up, but have recently pulled things back so we can actually enjoy the simplicity of camping without having to remember how all the fancy stuff works. 😊
All-in-one power stations are a good idiot-proof alternative for a 2nd battery. With a built in charger and inverter it's just so simple. Easy to take inside your home to use during blackouts too.
I've followed most of this advice. Saved me heaps. Good thing about buying these options is that you get out there first, then you have the cash and knowledge to upgrade the things you really want!
I understand why the Canadians love their rooftop tents. Bears, wolves, moose…….it pays to off be the ground.
Here in Australia, the drop bears will get you anywhere.
50 km south from QLD-NSW border there is a rest stop on M1 with usual set - toilet, gazebo, couple of tables, simple kids playground... and big placard on the playground fence - BEWARE OF SNAKES! I have a bad suspiction that it was snakes who financed all this bait for silly humans.
Don't like camping on the snow either 🤗
By far the best comment I have seen on a video in quite awhile. Thanks for the laugh.
Boxes absolutely! I wanted drawers for a while even if I didn’t know what I wanted to put in them. ended up throwing my steel army box in there and put some smaller boxes inside to organize it a bit and it’s so nice. my jack, air compressor, misc tools, fire extinguisher, and tire repair all fits inside. Just labeled the boxes inside the box so I know where everything is. and it left room on the other side of the hatch for my camping kit for when I go out for a weekend! Boxes are the best
I’m familiar with NATO ammo cans, but I can’t picture the Army box you’re referring to. Any chance you could post a pic or share a link to one? I’ve used the heavy duty plastic totes and other containers like this, but this sounds like a great piece for this setup. Much more durable.
For the (JB74 JIMNY 3 Door owners) and Ronny’s the long range tank segment.
I’ve had the longer ranger fuel tank fitted for just over 7 months now and yes your L/100 goes up and your range on your instrument cluster isn’t correct. But the little blocks indicating remaining fuel at the bottom of your cluster are correct. This is without a doubt best thing I’ve done next to a 40mm lift and AT tyres.
The pros outweigh the cons with this mod. It has more weight lower down and makes its centre of mass waaaaaay more stable. Not to mention having to fill up every 800+k’s is so nice!
We love all the portable stuff, compressor, boxes, and stuff like that, because it all comes out of the vehicle when we get home. If I had all the fixings IN my Jeep, and it got stolen... I lose everything. But then, it also frees up tons of space when I'm around town. We also run a Ground tent cuz we don't have to worry about being off the ground... And we like it.
I'm definitely the cheap guy in all of this lol. The portable air compressor that plugs into the vehicle for power, a couple portable power banks, old tool boxes I got at garage sales for my gear, a couple tarps with a dozen tarp clips and bungee rope to attach it to my vehicle and to a couple collapsible poles which used to be tent poles for an old Coleman tent I got for free, a Teton ground tent with a ground pad and sleeping bag as well as a hammock. While most of my stuff may take more time to set up and take down, it's very versatile whether I want to connect it to my vehicle to make it a part of my camp set up or away from the vehicle as a base camp set up. The other nice thing is, it's not heavy, can be organized to maximize the limited space I have available. I think videos like this are fantastic for those who need ideas depending if this is just a once in a while thing or a lifestyle.
I'm cheap too. One time I went to the Dollar Tree to grab some essentials and camped at the Grand Canyon. We humans don't need a lot of stuff to get outside.My old Yeti cooler from 2017 is still fine. I don't need a Dometic fridge, a coffee machine, and a paper towel holder.
another alternative for the 270 awning is just a 4x4m tarp. I attach one corner to my roof rack above the driver side door, drag the tarp over the roof then use the 2 pole method and 5 guide lines. Takes about a few minutes longer but not that much different if your pegging down your awning. Water drains well, you can also set it up freestanding as a base and costs a fraction compared to an awning
Great video, Ronny! I'm glad to see that I've already been using three out of these ten tips, mostly focusing on weight saving. I opted for roof bars over a roof rack due to the latter's dead weight of around 20kg. Storage boxes allow for quick reconfiguration of my 4x4 and help save fuel during mall crawls. The Gazebo Box adds flexibility for base camp setups while keeping weight down. With a max strap and shovel, you can get out of almost any situation. There's also a product called Bog Out, which can be used as an improvised winch. For sleeping, i do use OZtrail Blockout Stretcher Tent.
Great tips as always. Along the same thought process as a removable battery, get a handheld 5w UHF radio instead of the in vehicle mounted one. No install costs needed and still work perfectly for talking to truckies, pilot vehicles and other folks in your convoy.
And coming in at No.11.... An Esky with ice vs car fridge! Actually, fuck that, Im never going back to ice, lol
Once you ditch the ice you rarely ever wanna go back. Soggy food 🙅🏽♂️
Hahaha the Esky is reserved ONLY for beer now
Amen to that.
No more soggy food lol!
You know this is not a stupid idea, I do this for day trip or overnighters... Fridge only goes in for long trips.... Instead of ice use the gel ice packs. The good ones last a good 3 days in a quality Esky and you don't end up with soggy stuff.
@@jonathancuthbertson9850 yeah, the esky still has it's place, but it's definitely relegated to a distant 2nd for me
Number one. PLB. The Zoleo allows you to make contact via messaging through your phone as well a being an emergency beacon. Similar cost.
Works a treat. Thanks Ronny
plus you can use it for a bushwalk.
Zoleo needs subscription, plb doesn't
@@hi9580 yes, that's correct. Subscription can be suspended at any time where you only pay a few dollars a month. I reactivate before a lengthy trip.
Zoleo works great, used one for a couple of years. if you're not using it you can suspend your sub for $3.50 per month and keep the same number.
Absolutely quality episode. Perfect timing…. In a world of ‘must have’s’ , you have created awareness of what you actually need.
Hats off to you for making an episode of practicality over ‘must have’s’
Wishing you the best into the future (what ever that evolves into..)
I don't have the money for a winch, so I've bought the good old Farm Jack High Lift with a propper recovery sling. Now I can winch myself out with just a few crancks.
One hell of a video. Practical versus indulgent. I have a single half height ARB drawer in the back of my D22 ute with a 120AH battery box hooked up to a solar panel. The rest of the ute back gets boxes, tent, fishing gear, camping gear and recovery gear. Once emptied, all that is left is the drawer with a fridge on it allowing me to use the tray area for work.
Brilliant video Ronny, Last year I made a lot of changes to my 4x4 and did what you have discussed in the video. I now have boxes, roof bars and use a tent and gazebo and its brilliant.
No regrets doing so, it's very easy to fall into the trap of thinking you need something.
Keep up the great videos.
Been 4WDRIVING and camping/ hiking all over Australia since a kid in the 1970's.
The Kimberly, Pilbara, NT, remote SA, FNQ and everywhere inbetween.,..way back in the late 70's all through the 80's/90's and still enjoying it!
Way before mobile phones, navigation systems, bitumen roads, solar panels, inverters, lithium batteries, awnings, tourism and any modern technology that's commonplace these days that has totally changed what used to be REALLY remote areas into now being common tourist/retiree freeways.
I'm currently rebuilding an '88 GQ TD42 Wagon and using all of my years of experience in doing many of the things you have mentioned here 👍
Bonus is that it's very simple, cheap and lightweight to 4WD/Camp for months on end in complete comfort without a single modern accessory complicating things and weighing the vehicle down.
The GQ is on the way to being able to be fully loaded with all my the gear for a 3 month trip and yet go over the weighbridge at least a whole tonne lighter than the GVM of the standard factory Wagon!
Certainly don't need to keep up with all the latest trends and fashionable non necessary equipment to survive out the bush for extended periods......and the weight savings do wonders for proper off road performance, fuel savings and less risk of wearing out/breaking your vehicle 👍👌🇭🇲
This is why Ronny has the best 4x4 channel on the you tubes. Absolutely brilliant. All the content is always well thought and based on HIS actual experience, not just some marketing item description. Keep up the good work Ronny.
I started traveling in the late 1970s, and of course I took the kitchen sink and the sofa too (lol), as I went on the list and the weight got less and less and less. The conclusion is that, you need a lot less than you think, I ended up liking the K.I.S.S. (KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!) a lot and it has served me well. Less is actually better and It doesn't need to be that expensive.
So the best practice is, put everything you absolutely need on a big sheet,.... Than, half it, then..... HALVE it again! Then what you have left you'll find after your trip most of it you never used.
This advice came from a German that travelled the world several times on a motorbike an XT500 in the 1970s.
Thats the kind of videos that made me subscrib to your channel years ago 👍👍👍
I’m a weekend warrior and i have a tent, a canvas tarp and poles (instead of a gazebo), a good insulation esky(no fridge or battery), boxes for organising. Love the setup - especially when the car park is away from the campsite or you want to use the car after setting up camp. … and my plb
Brilliant video. I’ve been doing most of these, and saved thousands.
Those expensive items seemed SO IMPORTANT to me, until I got by without them for a couple of years and realized how much I was saving.
I’m still on the fence on extended range. I use Jerries; but I may still buy a second tank.
Only disagreement is on the winch. I’ve had very little success with traction boards in snow and mud. Used my winch a LOT (and shovels, jacks, etc.). I’ve mostly used traction boards to bridge ruts (lift wheel, slide board under), support a jack.
TOTALLY AGREE on the others.
I'm so happy living in a MQ Patrol for one month now. Just less than 8.000€ vehicle, restoration and mods all together, incuiding roof conversion and inside shower. So sad you are not comming to Canary Islands for a modified episode. Love your videos, cheers
Versatility and needs. Those are big one. When someone is starting, my questions turn around their needs and what they want to do. Start minimalist and upgrade with time even more when there.s kid involve. We all are attracted to those shiny object but I went down from a drawer system to a shelf and boxes in the back of my vehicle. Good episode 👍🏻
Great video Ron. Very sensible stuff. A couple of comments. I think you should consider using a 1 pole canvas tent at least once. Our 9 foot by 9 foot tent takes up less space than 1 swag. When it is hot we just sleep on the ground with a mossie net. Mossie nets are $15. I use heavy duty swag mattresses too. It does take about 10 minutes to set up our 1 pole tent and to pack it down. You can fit 4 people in it, so it is a hell of lot of space saved than 4 swags. You can stand up to get changed, which is really important when your knees don't work so well. They are far better in the rain. When alone with your significant other, sex much better than in a swag. I have a series of roof bars which I mainly use. When I head north to the heat I change to my roof cage system. It is set "high" (about 120mm) above the vehicle. it has a lightweight floor in it that acts like a sunshade, or hat for the vehicle. The amount of heat it stops coming into the vehicle is terrific and that helps the fridge freezer keep working. I have a custom made, dust proof canvas "bag" that fits into the roof cage so I can carry a lot of light stuff up there, (like extra swag mattresses and extra tables and chairs when the gang comes to). I have a winch which I use mainly to recover my boat trailer off beaches. I always have 2 manual hand winches, one heavy (1.6 ton), 1 light.. You really should talk about the use of bladders (water and fuel). They can save a lot of problems and cost for those who travel this country rarely. And of course you can move them from vehicle to vehicle. You should also consider a bit of a break down about the choices in various different types of weaponry. Knives, axes, brush axes, (which everyone seems to have forgotten about) and of course spears. If you go to the northern section of this country, you really should have, or the implements to fashion, at least two types of spears. I am not talking about fish spears here. I have a few mates who can do that, but I am not that good. Cheers.
Good tips Ronny ,145 ltr long range tank $2000,200 ltr portable diesel fuel tank with electric pump and bowser filler ,lockable $750 and I store it in my shed ,no Jerry cans ties nicely into my tub for long range remote trips
I'm amazed at the prices you quoted. My napa knock off compressor was $100, my diy 4 tire hose kit with gauge was $120 with bag, nowhere near the price you quoted, yet faster than an ARB twin setup. Same for my battery setup. I have maybe $2000 into the complete system including the 400AH server rack battery, 500W of solar mounted to the vehicle, wiring, DC-DC/MPPT charge controller, 2000W pure sine inverter with remote display and power switch, 12V fuse panel, bus bars, Class T fuse, breakers, and all the wiring is OFC 1/0 double insulated welding cable. The battery alone is $1000. Australia must be super expensive compared to the US. My winch was only $800 with the mount, too. I also cant fathom spending thousands on a RTT or drawers,,, I built a custom interior in my suburban with a high quality mattress, custom shelves, lighting, maxxair fan, fridge/freezer, microwave, starlink, power ports throughout, and even added molle panels for gear on the back of my seats for less than $4000. I could probably redo this build for $15,000 including the vehicle, lift, lights, locker, wheels/tires, and everything else I listed here plus my rooftop storage boxes, rooftop water tank, 8x10ft awning, hitch mount cargo basket. The prices out there are absurd. It might be cheaper to buy/build a vehicle here and ship it there.
Awesome video Ronny, so many pros and cons for each set up.
You’ve Just described my grenadier build, Ronny.
I’ve done it all for $15K on top of the purchase price of the truck.
Roof rack
270 awning
Custom drawers
Onboard air
Aux fuel
Dual batteries
The works!
No winch yet…. Need to dig through the couch cushions for some spare change and buy one of those still.
I built a drawer system that used standard sized boxes for the best of both worlds. Fill the boxes at home, drop them into the drawer system and go. I have boxes for kitchen and cooking stuff, tools, dog stuff, bike stuff etc... Just swap in whatever I need for any given trip.
I have a 4m x 4m Canvas tarp and simple but strong modular frame.
I added numerous anchor points to the rack on my van.
I can setup in multiple directions and account for different weather conditions and orientations.
Most often it acts as a roof and wall (to the weather)2m H 2m W and 4m L off the back of the van
It becomes our outdoor kitchen and lounge room leaving the bedroom (aka Van) clean.
It's been in some wild weather and we've never gotten wet or blown out.
I can also drive away from the setup leaving it free standing.
Takes 20 mins to setup and 15 mins to drop and go.
Awesome Ronny, i have done much of what you mentioned myself, but there are a few other options id like you to explore if possible, as follows;
WINCH: Have you ever tested the Bogout Rope ladder recover system? Worth looking at maybe and various ways of connecting to the fixed recovery point? Chain or adjustable rope length?
270 AWNING: instead of the awning or the heavy bulky awning, I use a 6.5m x 5.5m Drifta Hexatarp. Takes 5 min to setup, my Oztent RV4 goes under it, and i can back my Cruiser under it and use my slide out kitchen while also under cover. The tarp and poles pack up in a small bag and go jn the car for approx $300. I love the setup and my tent stays dry and less effected by wind.
DRAWES: yep, i use a couple of Dune 50L watertight boxes plus a Mogu Kitchen Caddy. Boxed also make great seats and coffee tables at camp. Yep, the boxes come out and car is back to normal. Very versatile & cheap. If need be i can strap them to my Slim aluminium tray that can also carry the Oztent.
ROOF RACK: yep, 3 Thule Bars, plus a Drifta Ali Roof Tray for the Oztent RV4. Tent can go on the tray, or on the 3 roof bars if i need the tray to carry boxes, gas or fuel. Very versatile. I can also carry a couple of kayaks if im paddling while away.
There is so food for thought for others?
I use a hiking tent instead of a swag sometimes.
It's not as comfortable, but it's super light weight and fits into a backpack. I can fit my whole setup in a hiking bag (at least the essentials) so I can go camping without my vehicle if i want. Lets me camp in some places that i otherwise wouldnt be able too.
Very cool. hiking trigg stoves are pretty cool too, especially the old pump up solid fuel ones, not the gas ones. The old solid fuel ones last for about 2.5 days heavy use and it is easy to carry more solid fuel. Cheers
I did everything right in the first build. Love my Hybrid hardshell RTT on Rhinorack roofbars. Got a good mobile compressor and a decent portable power system, but I can charge it in my Jeep. I'm building a slide out coller/freezer, and the rest fits in boxes.
I can put an awning on my RTT and got a tarp and tentsticks to make an awning on the back. It's not more work than building a canopie.
Thanx for confirming my ideas. My Jeeper friends only show off their expensive set up.
Great vid Ronny... getting a bit tired myself from watching 100k plus tricked rigs with all the cool add ons doing trips. Isn't going off roading or going bush about doing it cheaply and with the basic " essential " gear. Good on yer mate to highlighting this.
People are free to do off-roading how they please though..
Fantastic advice. The other massive advantage of most of these suggestions is that they can be moved to a new vehicle on sale of the old one.
nice work - I set up my paj so everything is removable. Cars come and go (by design or necessity) but my gear mostly comes with me. Ive a rear awning tent which suits me perfectly (can't seem to get them much now). The thing that irks me though are winches. People use them without any training or experience. They can be very dangerous if used incorrectly or safety precautions are not taken. Just remember - your safety area for people not directly involved in winching is 1.5 times the length of the extended cable in 360 degrees
and alternate to the PLB/EPIRB/stat phone is the Garmin inreach. You can get it as a full handheld gps or in the mini, This will have the emergency help button as well as the ability to send text messages from your phone. (subcripition fees are yearly or monthly so only pay when you need to) Its dearer than the PLB but cheaper than the statphone with a bonus of using it with a table or phone for the gps receiver.
I think an iPhone does the same thing. Emergency comms can be made and “find my phone” will establish location.
You don’t need all this other crap.
@@oggyoggy1299it’s only the latest iPhone and I *think* it’s only in the US atm. I’ve been using a spot-x for years. It’s satellite so you can send and receive sms anywhere.
Yes IPhone 15 got Satellite
And soon iPhone will be able to send and receive iMessage over satellite free of charge
Sometimes its just the looks you want to go for, I am waiting on my diamondback cover and have some ideas for racks etc eventually. I need a bullguard around here since I live in the PNW where we have elk, deer, bear and everything else to jump out at you.
Awesome stuff Ronny.
I get the point of this video was cheaper alternatives but its all great stuff for us with daily driver 4wds. With daily commuting you probably shouldn't be loading your car up with $10-$20k accessories which increase the weight. Especially if you only use them a few times a year.
Im off to go shop for a portable battery system haha.
Great tips Ronny. In the last 2 years building up a 76 I've made most if the same decisions except for the drawer system. But that still cost me 30 % less by shopping around a bit and installing it myself. 4 roof bars do the trick. I've got an slu box on top plus I can add an extra spare tyre if I need to. The soft RTT has a lot of benefits (much more choice!) and only one negative. I've added a tarp to the side (cheap, lightweight).
I really like the tarp to the side idea. I buy canvas truck tarps online for less than $70 and carry ridge poles I make out of Oregon that I make to fit the tarp and tent poles. I make my own heavy duty tent pegs out of Reo, (normally 14 mm). You don't need many poles or pegs then, which is way better. Far less tripping hazards. Cheers.
@@markthomas8766 Tarps are great, it's just a matter of finding the right one/ size. Easy fix to the roof bars and 2 poles will do. Well done with the poles and pegs.
thanks for the video... soo many good inputs to never skip a trip just because not having the high end accessory
Quality 2nd hand gear is a great option too. Your local wreckers may even have some goodies.
These are your best videos for saving money
To an extent I like it.
One of the things I will certainly agree with is the portable Battery Box!! I have one that I put in a 93 Pathfinder and now have in my 2012 Frontier. Very versatile and helped me with planning the build.
One thing I disagree with is the Navigation. As one who has both the Garmin Overlander and the Garmin Tread Overland, I can say that they are far superior to any tablet that you put software on for offline travel. Even though they are pricey, I would highly recommend a good name brand Navigation unit like a Garmin any day.
For the fuel I can certainly see it. Yes it is an expensive thing to do, but if one is doing any kind of Touring/Overlanding, then I feel I becomes well worth it in the end. If you are a weekend warrior that goes out a couple times a year at best and do not tow at all, then I will agree with some Jerry Cans of sorts
Most if not all of these are cheaper options to get started.
If you think you need more range, get some cans. If you have to actually use them often then consider upgrading the tank.
Some people have money to just get everything top of the line, in case they happen to ened that thing.
Most of us are on a budget and need to look for cheaper alternatives, at least to start and then later upgrade piece by piece :)
@@ssu7653 nothing wrong with being on a budget. Part of why I like this particular hobby as it allows me to get things as I go vs having to buy every little thing before heading out. Also a good bit of 4wd vehicles have a standard range of around 300-350 miles on a full tank from the factory when doing OffRoad Travel. Depending on whether or not you are Touring or just going to to do Rock Crawling(because some will do just that) will depend if you need the extra range.
Also keep in mind that some vehicles may not have the room for a bunch of fuel cans especially when you need water storage as well.
This is a really great video... Things don't have to be expensive or complicated to get out and enjoy the county. Also, many of these options let you use your daily driver without compromising its utility as a daily driver.
Absolutely loved this vid! And pretty chuffed that a few of these I've done myself because I realised that... I just don't need the big expensive thing that I'm seeing in all the 4wd youtube content.
Currently have drawers in the back of my Prado, and have considered just going back to boxes - I'm a family man with a family car, and a wagon with a lot of room is bloody handy!
Also, it's really good to know that the cheaper Nav options work out so well for people - really ummed and aah'd about getting a Garmin before a recent big trip up north. Just used offline google maps, and you know what... it led us down fewer dead ends than my mates HEMA device!
I'm with you on a lot of those, in fact I've gone for a similar 12v in my 80 but few items I'd like to throw in/challenge.
-Winch; tbh you could get a decent one from SCA, or the other thing could be a Turfer which yeah not as convenient and imo a bit more dangerous to use but still cheaper than some winches.
-270 awning; Next time Freestanding will be a must for me as my current Ironman straight out awning is a bit of a dog to set up. I'd say another option could be a 180 awning that you could say get a tarp or a canvas section you could tie to your roof rack and the rear extension and just get a pole, guide rope and just peg it down to cover the rear. Especially with vehicles with canopy tailgates, wouldn't have to worry about height clearance.
And Draws, yup bins are handy but a top mount cargo shelf would be pretty good as well. And plywood draws you can adapt to make the most of your space vs cookie cutter ones. Not to mention WAAAAY cheaper!!!
And here we have a prime example of practical thinking and common sense. I even have a kitchen sink in a box. (boxio)
For the satellite phone replacement another option is the starlink mobile plans either $80 a month for 50GB or $179 for unlimited with the option to pause the plan means you can have an internet and mobile phone connection (wifi calling) now while away camping
Good review mate, I have done 9 of those top 10's just missing the air compressor. And you do, you save a ton of money, The soft shell roof top tent I have had for 2 years now is awesome, no down sides except it reduced my range by 25klm over a 650klm tank initially, so not bad, and now after 2 years and the 2018 vehicle is slightly older, the klm difference is not even noticeable as the range has increased over time. I don't know of any hard shells that have a full king size bed like the Hanger tent I have does. the only thing I can think you missed was a cheap washing up kit, Coleman do a complete set up for $40 that is perfect for 2 people, even has a battery operated water pump to fill up. And a battery or solar operated shower, Coleman do a cheap cheap one at $14 (solar), just hang the bastard up for the day and by the end it hot enough to shower in. Again good review
The straight pull out awnings are fantastic when you add an annexe to them so you have a covered in area to use if it rains or if the flies and mozzies are driving you nuts. We have three of them, one on the 4x4 and 2 on the little camping trailer we tow behind onsome trips. They are really easy to set up and have a decent amount of room inside.
I just picked up a new style Ironman awning room in Pacific NW and used it straight away for a trip across the Cascades and back up to NW BC. Handled wind and rain fine. Handier than a tent when space and time is limited and a fully sealed bug room for dinner as well as sleeping.
Good points for roof bars vs racks... I have always preferred bars for their lower weight and easier to tie long things to... but one thing I think you missed is that bars + a long enough and strong enough wire basket can weigh less than a rack and gives you the option when you want to carry a gas bottle and/or fuel when you need it.
The other part about attached conopies i don't see much discussion about, is they are great if you are working around your truck, keeping rain and sun off you, but is not really helpful if you have chairs out and are looking for either protection from the sun or weather. Typically, that is not done right upside the truck. This is where a stand-alone canopy comes into play.
Well done, way too many people think that to enjoy Australia you need to spend $150K - $200k on a bells and whistles solution. Most of your Top 10 are my essentials for camping. My two luxury items are a portable toilet and a good set of camp lights (I swear by the HardKorr lights).
We take trips lasting up to several weeks. we like mountains and desert.
We get Weather. We had a gazebo simply collapse under the weight of the rain in Arkansas.
I do travel with a gazebo, but the OVS 180 awning does the day to day work. Goes up in moderately strong winds, keeps the sun off, its ust big enough that we can pitch the tent under it and move it into position. Expensive, but worth it.
A 700AH battery should really be all you need to keep a fridge cold for several days. These are affordable, the well designed ones let you charge while driving while the fridge is plugged in (see the Hobotech for reviews). If yo need more than that, maybe it's time to lighten the load.
We have taken the cheaper option on almost all of your 10 items. We did get a long range fuel tank and it’s my biggest regret. We don’t use a rooftop tent. But yeah, PLB, portable battery, cheap side awning, roof bars etc. we don’t do the hardcore stuff you do but we do get out there. People waste too much money on gear they don’t need. Great video. Love that you’re keeping it real.
Genuine question, what do you regret about the long range tank? Loss of ground clearance?
@@sickdevs you hit the nail on the head. It’s great having 40L extra in the tank. But we lost 20-40mm of clearance in the process. If I was making that choice now I would mount Jerry cans.
@@CampAndDriveAustralia thought that would be it, and it’s why I haven’t fitted one. I’m not going really remote and although it’s annoying filling up more often I don’t want to run big tires and the ground clearance loss would be a pain. Cheers
@@sickdevs yeah I don’t want the big tyres either. But I need a 40mm lift just to get back to factory clearance. And I find the stock springs on the Pajero are a bit too soft when the vehicle has weight in the back anyway.
@@CampAndDriveAustralia fellow Paj owner 👋💪👍🙂
I agree with the GPS system. A new tablet with Cellular can be had for just over $100 (Android based) and can do many more things than a dedicated GPS alone. A drawer system is another one - the weight of a drawer system alone is often that of a large adult. Having recently purchased several Wolfpack Pro boxes (amazing!), Im looking to remove the drawers from the wagon and reassess the whole rear storage. My current challenge is working out where and how to best mount water tank and fridge.
Don’t even need cellular if you’ve downloaded the maps. There’s a device called a “bad elf” that plugs into a tablet to give full gps.
@@pantoqwerty agree, dont own a tablet with cellular. These cheap tablets come with it now as standard and up to 1TB of storage so just don't drop a sim into it.
Hi Ronny, love your videos. Just thought I'd point out some more options for the hardshell rooftop tents. I have a cheap Chinese version of an iKamper mini which are normally priced at around $5000, mine cost $1500 second hard but normally around $2500 new. This design can be much larger when opened up and compared to the longer clam shell style. The biggest draw back I think is that they're taller or thicker when closed. But to me they're far superior if you want a smaller footprint to fit over the tray or tub section of a duel cab Ute. Versions I liked but didn't purchase because of weight were ones like the 23-Zero 1600 Panther, which isn't overly heavy.
Very interesting as I have an old subaru forester for basic camping. We have a much modified and strengthened Kings awning, it works now like it was supposed to, on the roof is 4 roof bars. And I have a 35l fridge in the back on a simple slide out platform, with a 40ah Companion Lithium battery which charges as we drive and powers the fridge for 3 days free standing. A simple propane cooker, and milk crate for some basic cooking gear. A instant up 4 man tent and it works for us with an inflatable mattress and is cheap
I’m not sure if this is the proper name for it, but here in the Southeastern US, we call them a ComeAlong. It’s a self contained ratcheting manual winch device. With a properly rated rope or strap around a solid anchor it will lift a vehicle off the ground. Available here at any farm supply store, it’s cheap, requires no power system, portable, and doesn’t require much gear to use. All in with necessary recovery gear it’s more expensive than recovery boards, but less than a farm jack with the same recovery gear or a proper winch setup. Farm jack is multipurpose though. 😁 If you’re looking to eventually get a winch in the future, all the same recovery gear can be used with a winch and if you buy a synthetic winch line to use with the come along, it can be installed on your winch if it’s kept in good condition with the new line from the winch stored as a backup winch line if it breaks.
Thanks for the tips, I am planning a 1st big trip from Sydney to Perth (and back) trip in October and I love the more affordable options.
Not everyone can or want to spend 100 of 1000's on car's and camping gear.
Great content keep making those!
Fantastic video Ronny! Great advice, I use most of these options, except no roof top tent, I use a cot tent.
I opted to make a sleep platform in my rig. Storage/ organization and I'm off the ground and it's cheaper than even the soft roof top tent. I built the platform myself it's just big enough to fit 4 milk crates which are also a cheaper alternative to some storage boxes but they're not sealed so I cant easily protect that stuff from getting dusty.
this is why i love this guy! always informative!!! cheers to you, mate!
Great list. It's nice to see videos about alternatives to tools that often require other tools or reconfiguring the rig setup.
Instead of a winch I carry a Wyeth-Scott Power Puller (synthetic 35 foot (10.6m) rope with a 12000 lbs (5450 kilo) rating). I've used it to get a car out of a ditch, pulled up a small tree in my yard, and did some trail repair bodywork when I crunched into a rock on a muddy trail.
I also use traction boards, but largely to level my vehicle.
I have 6x10 cargo trailer I converted to a camper and toy hauler and wanted an awning and didn't want to spend 1000 or more so I made my own with a 8x12 canvas tarp, angle iron from an old bed frame, some exhaust flange flange clamps, a stick on 2 inch metal pipe and 2 couplers. Cost me under 250 bucks.
Lol, you literally described MY camping equipment. Although, i do have a 200W solar blanket for the portable battery. Basecamp gazebo, two pods, fridge and collapsable bigW kitchen/pantry. Its not about what you bring to the camp, its what experience you take away from the camp!
Thanks for a great video. Have subscribed to your reviews.
I have the December 2023 model pro4x and it has been fantastic. I took advantage of the 1% Nissan finance offer so for $185 a week this new car was a no brainer. It looks amazing and for a little extra you can really upgrade these to make them how you like.
For not much money I added wireless CarPlay which is fine, under seat led lighting and red aluminium trims to vents and carbon fibre stick on upgrades around the interior and red stitching tape to improve the highlights of the door trims, led illuminated door sill plates that makes it attractive for me to drive.
Next month will be adding winch, spotlights and steel hoop less bar that will look refreshingly different to the warrior and for less money
There are combination cot/tents available for a few hundred bucks, for those that want to be off the ground but don't want to mount anything on top of their vehicle. That way you can just fold it and throw it in the back of your truck or SUV. Better for CG when wheeling, better for drag when driving on the highway.
In defence of the peg-out 270 awning vs the free-standing. It's not just the cost: it's also the WEIGHT. I run a hardshell rooftop tent and I like having a 270. (I'm in Tassie: we have this thing called 'rain'. Something of a foreign concept to folks in WA, but we see a LOT of it. So the 270 is often the difference between a wet camp and No Worries.) I've got a dynamic load rating on my canopy of 100kgs and the RTT is an Alu-Cab. So probably 80kgs with bedding in it. My 270 is first-gen, old-school, peg-out Foxwing. It weighs only about 17kgs. I bought it second-hand about 10 years ago. So if the wind grabs it, it owes me nothing. A sudden West Coast Tas wind squall will take even your $$ Bush Co 270. And as nice as that Bush Co awning is, the bugger weighs 34kgs! The peg-out 270 is not for everyone everywhere. But some of us have our reasons.
Ive been followi g your content for a couple of weeks really enjoy the insight to 4wd in australia , new sub. Love your honest opinions. Keep it up mate.
Thanks for this. As I'm starting out this will help me rationalise my expenses.
A retractable air line with the portable compressor is a great option. No need to coil up the line after using it and the mini reels are compact. There's also a really nice arm rest/side pocket that you can get for a very reasonable price. I think its from that Ronny Dahl fella, hit him up!
Agree with these options but also suggest trying and make do with what you already have for as long as possible before upgrading, then pick and choose what you really need depending on what frustrates you the most with current set-up. Also, if you really want more expensive option, making do with what you have lets you keep an eye out for good second hand items that pop up... I picked up a set of Drifta drawers for $500 (instead of $2.5k) for my Prado, removed rear seats/ built false floor myself (all bolted into to factory holes, using materials from previous parcel shelf/ tub set-up). 270 awning was another story though, 3m gazebo was fine for my needs previously, but recently upgraded to Darche freestanding 270 on Racksbrax HD mounts. Expensive in comparison but quick set-up amd beong able to take it off my vehicle between trips is perfect for my needs. Whatever works for you i guess, just avoid falling for all the "gamechanger"/ "must-have" hype... 🤷🏽♂️
been roadtripping onroad and offroad for over three decades. my favorite thing? My camp cot tent. Takes about 30 seconds to set up, fits in the boot, waterproof, off the ground and mine cost me $199. And it goes in the car so no drag = better fuel economy. If you need a driver reviver, stretching out full length and having a proper sleep is 100 times better than a nap on the back seat. And I remember back when your channel was starting out, you were doing a similar video about mods and you mentioned awnings and I said something like "yeah but I'm on a pension, I just a 6x4m tarp, some paracord and and some occy straps!" Just think, you save 5 grand on your fitout, that's most of the fuel for a big lap paid for!
Great video. I’ve used boxes always as I use the car for so many things when it has to be empty
I agree with the roof platform view, I went from bars to a full length platform and to be honest, it was a lot of $$ that didn't achieve much. I put my roof top tent on and there's no room for anything else.
You don’t need a sat phone or location device if you have a newer iPhone. You can make emergency calls via satellite on iPhones.
Hi Ronnie, one correction. I have a portable battery systems in my boot, a Thumper 12v 90am lithium, and it charges from my alternator just like the fully built systems. Yes, it was another $280 to have it professionally installed but that’s all.
Some great alternatives there. As for Navigation I use Gaia GPS on my phone and it works with Android Auto/Apple Car Play so no need for a tablet. It's free for the base version and works a treat on & off road, walking trails etc etc.
Dude you are killing it I love these videos, I like seeing you post more for sure!! 👌
The KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) principle goes a long way offroad. Those expensive drawer setups and complicated electrical fitouts are just adding weight and complexity exactly where you don't need it. It becomes a pi$$ing competition between everyone. Thanks for bringing it back to reality!
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0:00 Alternatives List
0:44 10-sat phone
1:50 9-onboard air
2:44 8-dual battery
4:00 7-offroad navigation
5:15 6-roof racks
6:25 5-long range system
7:16 4-winch
8:32 3-rooftop tent (hard top)
10:31 2-270° awning
12:10 1-custom drawers
Ronny mate you should do a video covering clutches, standard & heavy duty options. There’s lots of videos out there but almost all of them are sponsored. It would be great to see a non biased video on clutch systems.
On the navigation side of things, I plan on installing an Android powered headunit which will let me use the free or fairly low cost navigation software. It also lets me run music streaming, engine scan software via bluetooth, and pretty much whatever else i would use a phone or tablet for. And the bluetooth pairing lets me take and make phonecalls safely aswell.
The headunit i will be getting is about 800 bucks and is a fairly simple install, ive already done it and used it in my daily for almost a year now.
i too had the sat phone provider that fell in the black hole last year. was good at only $16 month with no cost for calls coming in or sms. nothing yet that nears that affordability with monthly costs at min of $40 and $2k for the hand set. spot locator is good with ability to suspend service if not venturing out. spot has options for 3 preset messages as in "im ok" , "need medical" or "need mechanical" all with google map location imagery and coords to recipients as you have set up by email,sms. great system but nothing beats a sat phone when right away from it all and voice message is vital. 76 series with false floor at rear, as seats wont go right down , with slide fridge on top 1 side and floor at height to accept cartons and specific size boxes underneath safely. plenty of variation at minimal cost.
Keder rail awning is a cheap alternative and way lighter too. I like having a winch on a hitch mount and then moving it to the front or rear as needed.
Nice video, another trick is to buy used gear, a lot of people buy all the stuff and have to get rid of it when they want to sell the vehicle.
On the point of the roof basket vs bars, I have for a long time run with my half length steel roof basket as my top bar slots into it nicely, its one of the strongest small baskets I've encountered, has great tie down options around it, and I've had two full Jerrys, a small 5 kilo gas bottle, my spare wheel, some jarrah firewood and swag on, doing the Holland track, and it worked perfectly ........ Except for the last hr of driving into Hyden. Doing 100 to 110 kph around those rural area bends on the highway before town, I really felt a "very noticeable" weight shift / body roll. I even started backing down to 90 for safety which wasn't really fun for everyone else in the 7 car convoy.
Even with just my spare wheel in the basket on some pretty sketchy climbs around Dwellingup and Mundaring and Harvey, having the weight of the basket and a 31 inch tyre and steel rim combo above the roof is a massive load when your front wheels start lifting off the ground. I have had to resort to throwing my spare in the back and tied down when I know I'll be bumping and dancing and lifting wheels up some "middle of nowhere" goat track.
While my little rig is off the road ( engine and trans swap ) I've removed the heavy basket and light bar, and popped on a very lightweight and light gauge tubular basket temporarily, to see if it makes a huge difference when the vehicle is running and offroad again. And though it's less than half the weight of the old basket, I wouldn't trust it to jump on my rear wheel and hang off it while loading or unloading gear like I did with the old basket.
The best option for me would be to find a way to custom fit the light roof basket directly to where the roof bars / roof racks attach, therefore lowering the lever affect ( body roll ), lessen wind resistance, and drop overall vehicle height for accessing carports or traversing fallen trees or tree limbs when out bush..
So the main point of all this is the having something heavy up top is also bad for offroad stability on uneven and steep tracks.
Great video, I have been looking at getting a new Garmin but can't justify the price I would love to hear your recommendation on good apps
Same here
@@peterdrummond6860 he does have a video on the Garmin Overlander if you are interested. I have one myself and I can say that it is nice. I also have the Garmin Tread Overland(totally different unit) and I find it to be really nice. Both have their place and it really depends on what you are doing and how often you are traveling OffRoad.
Basic…relatable…. honest.👍
Keep up the good work
I always calculate the cost per use and then set a budget.
My roof tent was $1,500, and I aimed for $15 per night. So, I need to spend at least 100 nights on my roof.
The more you pay, the more convenient it is. I run an electric RTT, that I can keep my bedding in (setup and pack up time 1 min each ). A self supporting 270 degree awning ( 1 min setup, 2 min packup). So I can packup my vehicle for a day drive in 3 min. Total cost 8k. I pretty much go cheap on everything else.
Gazebos have the added benefit of being able to easily add bug mesh around the walls. THAT is a game changer in many parts of the world. And the price difference between a cheap gazebo and a nice gazebo is still WAY smaller than a fancy awning.