$1300 is ridiculous for a propane fire pit. I get that there are places that don't permit open pit fires, but $1300 is absolutely bonkers. I'll be that one guy that disagrees with you on the fire thing. I love having a campfire, so much so that it's a must for me when I go camping. Thats my therapy when camping is sitting by the fire, hearing it crackle and feeling the warmth of a real fire, and I actually enjoy the task of building a fire. It's usually one of the first things I do when I set up camp, after the tent of course, and not just some heat source on a cold night. I think that the SoloStove fire pits are the best compromise for people like me that want a wood fire but may not be able to have an open pit fire, with the added benefit of not having to carry around propane tanks, especially the big 20lb bottles or a dozen 1lb bottles, extra hoses and fittings and the like. Plus, you can cook over the SoloStove firepits.
Great video. I continue to be surprised by how many people think that all overlanding needs to be approached like an expedition to the south pole. My wife and I drove from USA to Panama and back in a stock pickup truck with no traction boards, winch, lights, or shackles. We had a tow strap and a shovel. 1000s of miles of off pavement driving and we really didn't need or want any of that stuff. We also didn't go out of our way looking for the most difficult way to get places. To each their own.
"Overlanding" is something created by yuppies wanting to go outdoors. I agree with you 100%. A little knowledge, common sense, and skill can replace most of this ridiculously overpriced and unneeded gear.
Get a normal 4x4, sleeping bag & mat, a big knife, cooking pots, dry foods(rice, cereals, pulses, flour etc) a raincoat, stove, tarp, tent and lighter. The rest is for show off.
I have both high end and lower end lighting, condensation with both, high end slightly brighter. Good sleeping bag is a must I think. Suspension components should be the best you can find, the best is not always the most expensive. Don't cheap out on frig or power stations. Winch and recovery gear needs to be good quality, generally better is more expensive.
I was inspired. I unplugged my phone to take it with me. And here I am, no longer lounging on the couch, but seated upright, and learning about shovels to dig a poop hole. Meta meets Meta.
@Revereoverland I was thinking the same thing. "a 30 minute poop!?" Do your legs go numb? How do you stand up after that long? I hope you have more than 1 bathroom at your house. 😂😂😂
Out of all the information in this packed video, the biggest revelation to me is that camping without caring about a campfire is an acceptable position. I think you just cured one of my strongest aversions to camping. Seriously, thank you!
Campfire is a great way to smoke out all your clothes and gear. Super annoying! It’s fun if you have a big group though. On my own I never bother with it!
Camping is about doing what you want and enjoying yourself. I always build a fire, but then again I need to heat water and food. If I were camping overland style with stoves and such I don't think I'd bother with a fire most the time. You do you and just enjoy your time in nature.
I care about the wheeling, seeing the sights, and hiking, so the camping side of things is just so I rest and recover for the next day. That means I do the least amount of work possible lol. Building a fire is too much work for me 🤣
I have been researching and putting A LOT of thought into an overland / camping rig for doing cross country camping trips. I took my wife to Overland Expo Mtn West and she decided she wants to do a trailer. I was absolutely opposed to that but ordered the trailer in hopes that she'll come with me more often. The Patriot Camper comes with Dometic and Redarc systems so I'll see how all this goes. I'm actually kind of excited to get it and see how we like it
I decided a overland trailer is the best option for me. I want to be able to camp and go explore a little without all that weight and height from a RTT. Only problem is I cant afford it right now lol.
IMO if you're looking into the Jetboil Genesis stove, splurge a little more and get the complete Basecamp version. This elevates its usefulness and performance into another level. The Jetboil Genesis Basecamp is by far the best camp stove I've had. And I've had plenty of different ones in varying types and styles in my over 30 years camping. Pair this with my Jetboil Sumo and my fold flat firepit, it's all I need for my camping cooking gear. Just add water and food. 😁
It looks like the Basecamp system helps in the wind, which is my main complaint with the Genesis. It takes up a ton of room though, which is why I stuck with the Genesis and the pots and pans I had originally.
I don't usually recommend gear, but the "Clip and Camp" tents from Walmart have held up for several years now. We use them at least 45 nights a year, and have had zero problems. Super quick and easy to set up, and no leaks. We bought these when we forgot to pack our more expensive tents one trip, and found them much easier to use. The best tents for the money. And we don't have to climb a ladder getting in and out of them. 🙂 $39 for the 4 man, and 79 for the 6 man. And you can even stand up in the 6 man. It's a nice size for two people to spread out. The 4 man is about the size of a rooftop tent. We love the ICECO too. A 100 amp hour LiTime battery will power it for a week with no solar. Indefinitely with a solar panel.
ugh, I think he gets caught up with trying to upgrade everything in this video. I've camped for 10 years and the only thing that matters is that you go. Most people will fall for the materialism trap and not think about how often they will actually use these items.
@@erikhanna4525 Exactly its a total waste of resources. Either rich people do this nonsense or people who are sponsored and receive free stuff to sell to the masses. It’s all too overwhelming. Let’s not complicate camping Keep it simple.
I'm VERY new to overlanding and just purchased my first jeep. I've been on sales for many years now and absolutely love your unbiased approach to your reviews. Most importantly, this video helped me to understand the importance and need ir lack of it for so many items. Great job, and I'll be watching more of your posts.
Over the years I have been stuck in the snow so many times. I have learned that a standard #2 shovel it worthless for digging under a high centered rig. I have now look for a shovel with a handle that is long enough to reach under a rig and a blade that is parallel to the handle. A standard garden shovel the blade is angled with limits digging under a rig. I live in Central Oregon and camp in very remote locations the year around. It seems as if nearly all the 4WD rigs I see in town have a roof top tent and snorkel. I understand that roof top tents tend to be make a lot of noise in the wind. We get a lot of wind in Central Oregon. I also understand that a roof top tent needs to be stored dry not wet. To keep my wife happy I travel with a true off road travel trailer, Imperial Outdoors X 195. It does limit some of the locations I can travel. Sharpe switch backs and very narrow trails are my limiting factors. On the other had it is designed to be used at -30 degrees F and has 12 Volt AC. .
Love these videos that try to say what to buy, yours is not too bad, spend what you want and if you are happy with the results then it a win, don't be sucked in to buying expensive accessories just to look the part or because the You Tube crown promotes the heck out of them. Most of these "Overlander" have equipment better than the military and do not need it.
I want to add one more consideration here and that is buying high quality expensive gear used, particularly things with lifetime warranties. I have gotten some KILLER deals on some really crazy expensive gear by setting my search radius to 500 miles and asking people if they will ship the item. If you know what to look for you can spend budget item money on super high end equipment with no downsides.
Ozzie here. No mention of swags. Strange that. Some Ozzie like RTTs but RTTs are generally used recreation here in Oz. People working in the outback nearly 100% use swags. The roof of your car is for other things. And, If you carry a kayak on ypur roof, as I do, then a swag is the go.
I had to google what a "swag" is in australia -- in the USA from what it looks like is very similar to a Bivvy -- a great for solo but less popular option from what I've seen.
I have always followed the "buy once, cry once" with things that are critical. Wether that is overland, in my machine shop, sports, home, etc. related items. For things that I 100% need to be on point its worth the extra cost to me. For things that aren't mission critical, I am perfectly fine and prefer to save a buck. I know we have all been guilty of buying something we thought would do the same job but at a lower price point, only for it to fail at the worst time and end up ultimately buying the better product in the end. Thus wasting money on the initial "cheaper" purchase. The world of machining drilled it into me unfortunately. Wether machine tools, metrology tools, workholding, etc. I can safely guarantee you dont want to gamble with those things if tolerances are at all important to the given work. Many products in said world will do the same job but not nearly as repeatable.
Absolutely! I've definitely wasted money on cheaper things too, but at the same time, I've also bought more expensive things where it wasn't necessary just because they're bougie.
The radio is where I push back. I have been using Baofeng radios for a while. I don't have the money for everything everyone preaches you need. I am a ham and I also have the new GMRS Baofeng which has been flawless. I guess that is why I am pushing back because they are "ok" for trail riding. I also have a mobile 2/10 meter rig in the truck. They are easy to program with the CHIRP app. Manually there is no radio easy to program for 2 meter repeaters without practice.
I'm not going to disagree with you since the radio is just my personal preference, and the Baofengs are great if they suit your needs! I do feel a little more strongly that someone who doesn't understand the ins and outs of ham radio shouldn't be getting a radio that you type frequencies into (whether sold as GMRS or ham), so I think Midland is great for plug and play and new users.
Some of this stuff ends up being more costly than you originally thought as well. I went with a viair onboard compressor kit for $630. Then I added a second compressor and so much extra stuff for it to work the way I wanted that my onboard air setup ended up being $2300, so be aware of that as well lol.
Something to add to this: The handheld tire inflators (mine is Ridgid) is like 300 bucks, can be used with any vehicle (trip the airport in the Accord, trip through the Jemez mountains in the Land Cruiser) and isn't a project to install. Don't need to worry about hoses and fittings and what not either. I can't tell you how many times I can inflate/deflate with it but using my small 2 MaH battery to go from 20 PSI to 35 PSI on 31x10.5 tires didn't even use 25% of the battery. Anecdotal but there ya go.
Lights were by far the biggest waste of my money. Baja LP6s and Squadron SAE ditch lights and I end up never driving around after dark. Good info as usual!
But that ONE TIME somebody needs your help, and it starts getting dark, you'll pat yourself on the back until you remember that one thing you could have brought that would have saved the last three hours in the woods... That said, I buy cheap lights, because I can also slow down and not out run my lights.
The most important pieces are those that allow you to get out and be happy. If you are like me and need to be super organized, then that is gear storage and accessibility. If you are a chef, it might be a kitchen set up. Spend where you get the biggest reward. Just don't cheap on the safety issue items.
I used the gator boards mainly. They are cheap, good flex and don't have the tire shredding metal cleates. At the end of the day they are all garbage. I now use usaf metal runway pieces. They are stainless weigh about twice of maxtrax and never break, if they did, I still have more that I paid $150 for the giant 2000lb piece. I use a 11,000lb winch, my truck (Bronco, 37"tires) weighs 6,000 lbs its fine because a bigger winch wont fit.
Well said. I abandoned “buy once, cry once” under the burden of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Love my Smittybilt rooftop tent (cheapest on the market), some of my Xbull stuff, etc. But I’m always willing to pay top dollar for a clever design or something critical - like attachment points, drivetrain components, or an exceptionally clever paper towel holder.
TH-cam doesn't like them sometimes, but I'm familiar with Expedition Essentials - they make cool stuff! If I had an AluCab, I'd probably have one of those towel holders too.
@@RevereOverland , in my original post with the link I stated that if there were a Nobel Prize for camping gear, Expedition Essentials would have won it for that paper towel holder! :-)
Wanted a Winch… need a new bumper… overland and when I added up all the weight I carry would be over the payload capacity of the vehicle. Don’t want to add aftermarket to increase payload capacity.
I think the firecan is great when you can't setup a campfire. Not just due to a ban, but if you got to your site in the dark and didn't have the time to get a fire going, it's a good stand in.
I agree with what you are saying. Most of our gear is mid priced. Have used some cheap lights...replaced many as they broke or got water damage. Have an Iceco fridge, Badlands Apex winch, OME 3" lift and Baja Boss A/T tires. Nothing crazy, but our 4Runner is pretty capable and we didn't pay a lot of money.
Definitely don’t cheap out on anything that makes you comfortable, especially a tent or of course your vehicles suspension if you put a lift on( do not get a cheap lift) The gazelle might be more than a Walmart tent but it is WORTH IT
Great video about equipments. I own the iKamper Mini and love it, and Dometic CX 95; CFX is too big for my needs now so I sold it and plan to buy another smaller Dometic. It’s great that I can plug in which keeps the frozen foods frozen and the cooler keeps the fresh foods last longer. Love my Tundra 4x4 TRD OR with towing feature. Have taken off roads a couple of times, bit down plan on doing off-roading often. Changed the OEM tires with KO2s. Will probably upgrade to KO3s later on. I bought a Solo firepit. That one isn’t camp tested yet.
If you need to regularly remove your drawers for daily drive use, the deeper red Milwaukee drawers work well and lock into place if needed and stack. Also light weight.
Great info! I tend to go with mid grade items since I’m overlanding in the same vehicle I drive the kids to school in I’m not doing anything wild. I agree that quality coms is important but can’t say I totally agree about the boofwang radio being garbage after watching notarubicon’s channel and grabbing some on his tests and recommendations. That being said I also run a midland MXT 275 in my Tacoma. I am enjoying your content immensely and really appreciate your insight and reviews!!!
Honestly some of these overlanding guys crack me up with the super expensive, ultra rugged radios they buy when that radio spends almost it's entire life inside the vehicle unless they're getting out to spot someone. At the end of the day, it's their money to spend, but I'm definitely going to be sticking to the cheap Baofengs myself. They work fine and if I lose them in the brush on some backcountry survey it's less money down the drain.
Just a tip check marine stores for some things. Buying things made for a sailboat or houseboat can save you a lot of money sometimes. That industry also has its situations where things are expensive.
@@RevereOverland that's where a lot of the fireplaces that you are starting to see in overlanders came from also. My favorite is latches if you think about keeping things in place while on the ocean it'll probably work the same off-road.
Great video as always and well done. So many options and when we were doing our build out we went with the buy once cry once and never regretted it. But I disagree on 2 items and of course this is my opinion. The air compressors are something I researched and since I have a Powertank CO2 system i wanted a backup air compressor and went with the smittybilt 2781 compressor. This thing has performed flawlessley for 2 years and is jus tas fast as VIAR or moreflate compressors but alot cheaper. Second item, Herectic studios lights are not the best. My truck rack manufacturere uses these lights and he had nothing but issues in quality control. So after alot of research and testing, we went the very lessor known but proven to be the best and brightest lights Morimoto banger series. They outperform BD, DD,Heretic, KC by far.
Well... Everything depends on your environment when overlading, but I would say Jerry cans with fuel is up there with tires for me. In a place where the next fuel station may be 200 miles, I want two large Jerry cans with premium on the back.
In regards to the 1300 fire pit, some overlanders love to buy the hottest new item haha. Kinda like when apple drops a new iphone, it's a slight flex. For me, I will continue to cut down the free deadfall in the woods.
Had a HF 12k on my trailer for years until it suffered a spontaneous disassembly. Turns out that the bolts holding the winch to the plate had rattled loose and failed when it was under load. The winch was damaged, but it wasn't really the winch that failed. I ordered some replacement parts from HF and bought the new redesigned 12k for the front of my F250. I have no reservations about running the HF winches on a trailer or weekend truck.
Great video. I always say, buy a Warn or be willing to walk. Lol. We also vary rarely do a camp fire. Not sure why we don’t. But we love cooking good meals while we are out. We will look for you at overland expo east.
I am not for, or against, any brand of traction boards but I would ask- did the broken X-Bull one get your buddy home? Money well spent/saved? He can now go out and decide to buy the same (because it worked, if only once) or more (because it might work better/longer).
I subscribed, good luck on 100k. I appreciate your honesty in this video. I’m interested in over landing and am amazed at the cost of some items. The old wording “camping” not being called “over landing” has tripled the price of things it feels.
Great video!! you covered a lot of gear, in a short period. When it comes to gear, you can spend a ton or go budget at Walmart. I, like you have done both. There are some things that I absolutely will spend the money on. Like you said, a good stove, or tent. I have a very expensive ground tent.. actually 2 one for backpacking and one I used for longer periods (base camp). Everyone will tell you why you are wrong and they are right... it's the internet. Great job on an honest gear evaluation!
I imagine its much like high priced tools vs the local autoparts. You can get 80% of the product for 20% of the price. Somtimes that last 20 percent of functionality may be worth it to you. Ive taken the long way i buy cheap break purchase next tool 15% more.
Over-landers are gear sluts, they will shell out for the latest awesome accessory or bolt on. You absolutely do not need to buy god tier gear to go out and have fun. Spend the money on gas and going out and having a good time. The mid tier or even bottom of the barrel tier gear is often good enough. Spend money on good tires, suspension, lockers but only if you need them; Not on looks and posing as an over-lander. The best recovery kit you can have is a second vehicle in your party. Going alone is ok but always more risky. Final hot take, you never need max tracks or sand ladders if you have proper tires properly deflated and a vehicle that doesn't weigh 7000lbs. Stop building overweight over landing vehicles for the mall parking lot shows.
It is kind of ironic talking about budget options with a $70k truck, $17k camper, thousands of dollars of aftermarket bumpers and lights, Max Trax, Roam cases, $5k of custom drawers and storage, Redarc, starlink and basically the best of the best.
There’s nothing ironic about it. I started this channel with an $1,100 Jeep and a Walmart tent. I’ve used everything from the cheapest options through the best of the best, so can offer a perspective that someone who only ever uses cheap options cannot.
Very well put together and informative video with someone with real world knowledge. Definitely spot on with the iKamper quality. It’s hard to explain if you have used one.
Oh, you are opening the door to so many arguments! I can't wait to come back in a few days and read the comments on this one! Great video, you covered quite a few items!
Walmart had some Ozark trail traction boards and they've been okay, got my gf a set of good year traction boards that were at a mass resale shop for mostly furniture. Hasn't used them yet but they feel better than the Ozark trail ones. Both under 50 bucks.
I'm 40yrs old. What everyone calls "over landing" we always just called camping. The BEST piece of "gear" you can have is a common sense. People have over complicated the hell out of this and spend WAY too much money on it all. It doesn't take a $50,000+ rig and $10,000+ of gear to do this stuff. I'll make it simple.... 1. Decide what you want to be able to do and where you want to go. 2. Take whatever vehicle you have and test it out somewhere. Find it's weak points and it's strengths. Compare to step 1. 3. LEARN HOW YOUR VEHICLE WORKS AND HOW TO REPAIR IT. 4. Make the required "adjustments." 5. Bring GOOD communication and basic survival gear that you know how to use. 6. Go have fun.....and don't leave trash please.
Great video! I had to choose between alu cab 270 and quickpitch 270 awning. Went for quickpitch beacause it's a lot bigger where it matters and price is the same.
Really well done Rob. I guess it is all about priorities. Just curious if you were building a 4Runner again what would you do differently this time? Thanks. Tom
Great video, specific where it needed to be and general with advice otherwise…. One key thing that was missing is bathroom activity, sure you can dig a poop hole, but do you have something you recommend to sit on?
Just my personal experience with winches, I have never had a failure with my Badlands winch, had two 15000-pound winches and both failed due to the brushes sticking in the brackets, and losing connection. I'm not telling anyone what to buy, just sharing my experience.
Not really cheap vs expensive gear, but rather set up. Don’t be cheap and run thin unfused wires for high amp accessories. Also have some form of fire suppression- cheap or expensive, just have something.
Please list all of the locations that your B-Roll shows for your vids, im trying to make a list of all of the places i want to go to and the first clip in the mount range looked amazing!
29:03 - I am going to disagree that Baofeng radios are cheap and poorly made. I know you were referring to a different brand, but the one in your hand is a Baofeng and they make decent gear if you know what you are doing. Other than that one, I agree with all of your other points 😁
Always great videos; have learned so much from them since we embarked on the overlanding train 3-4 years ago. If I may ask; the trail at the 22:53 mark of this video. I saw that in another video of yours in the past but have not been able to guess which trail that might be in/near the S.R.Swell. Would you mind sharing the name of that trail? I know the overlanding community falls into 2 camps. (1) the Hell No I won't share and neither should you -or- (2) Sure, this is where that is or DM me. So thought I split the middle and ask just the name of the trail so I can research it myself.
No talk / Mentioned of underbody armor? CBI, RCI, Slee-offroad? Would nice to have some unbiased review? Steel vs Aluminum , What Material are you running on your specific Tundra? I'building a 2024 Tundra .. Mostly dirt and light trail roads around Colorado.. Some overnight camping beach in Baja. Thank you..
I'll be making a video on building out a vehicle for overlanding soon. For armor I went with CBI, and if you choose to go with CBI you can get 5% off with the code revere. You can't really go wrong with any of the brands skid plates though, since they all basically do the same thing. Both aluminum and steel are strong, although aluminum is a lot lighter, and steel slides over rocks better. If you're going to be using your plates a lot for big rock obstacles, then steel is best. If not, then aluminum is worth the weight savings.
My first one didn't open well and interfered with a ton of electronics (car keys, TPMS, garage door opener, etc.), so they replaced it. The second one opened ok, but always thinks the battery it's running off is dead, so shuts off, and it still interferes with all my electronics. I know one other person with the same fridge, and his also shuts off all the time.
Expensive definitely does not mean the best nowadays. A lot of things are overpriced yet still crap. Just do some research and you'll find what to buy.
This is why I always look at all the flaws and gimmicky features to see if they're worth the asking price tag. You'll know right away when you see the flaws.
@@RevereOverland I have them and they are durable. I've used them on one occasion in the Mojave near the Lava Tube. A car got stuck in the sand at corral and I put them under the front wheels (front wheeled drive car). They got out really fast. The company has been around for a long time.They made them for fire departments and the military. They will replace them if they break.
That's good to hear! I'm sure they're good for getting out of snow and sand. It looks like the only thing they don't work for is bridging, but you might be able to fold them up to fill gaps!
A roof top tent won’t save you from a determined bear, so I keep bear spray on hand in Grizzly country. The best thing is that it keeps you away from the ants and spiders!
How is the large Alu-Cab awning in the rain? Saw some comments in a YT video that were less than flattering. For the money, I hope it would be very good.
I didn't have any problems, but I only used it for two weeks, and it rained on maybe 3 or 4 of those days. Where did you see the negative feedback on it?
The APL55 is a much better choice if you're ok with a much larger footprint! The JP50 Pro doesn't latch properly, doesn't read battery voltage correctly, so turns off constantly, and emits a lot of EM interference that stops remotes like garage door remotes and key fobs from working! I had two, and both had the same problem.
@RevereOverland thank you for the reply! You just saved me from a huge disappointment. Have you used the Apl 55. I noticed you have a 4runner i have a GX460. Pretty sure they have very similar cargo space. How well would it fit in the back.
These are the only budget ones I've seen in person that I think are actually pretty good. They have interchangeable lenses with either white or yellow, work well and look good, and are serviceable. revereoverland.com/products/auxbeam-3-80w-9600lm-led-pods-white-yellow-interchangeable-pair?_pos=3&_psq=auxb&_ss=e&_v=1.0
$1300 is ridiculous for a propane fire pit. I get that there are places that don't permit open pit fires, but $1300 is absolutely bonkers. I'll be that one guy that disagrees with you on the fire thing. I love having a campfire, so much so that it's a must for me when I go camping. Thats my therapy when camping is sitting by the fire, hearing it crackle and feeling the warmth of a real fire, and I actually enjoy the task of building a fire. It's usually one of the first things I do when I set up camp, after the tent of course, and not just some heat source on a cold night. I think that the SoloStove fire pits are the best compromise for people like me that want a wood fire but may not be able to have an open pit fire, with the added benefit of not having to carry around propane tanks, especially the big 20lb bottles or a dozen 1lb bottles, extra hoses and fittings and the like. Plus, you can cook over the SoloStove firepits.
hot take not caring about a fire. That's my favorite part of camping. Goes to show everyone has different priorities
Great video.
I continue to be surprised by how many people think that all overlanding needs to be approached like an expedition to the south pole.
My wife and I drove from USA to Panama and back in a stock pickup truck with no traction boards, winch, lights, or shackles. We had a tow strap and a shovel. 1000s of miles of off pavement driving and we really didn't need or want any of that stuff. We also didn't go out of our way looking for the most difficult way to get places. To each their own.
Also less accessories to be stolen or draw unwanted attention.
"" somebody" here has a very cooperative partner and that stupid idea about driving back roads.
"Overlanding" is something created by yuppies wanting to go outdoors.
I agree with you 100%. A little knowledge, common sense, and skill can replace most of this ridiculously overpriced and unneeded gear.
Honestly a military surplus, fixed handle, trench shovel from WWII-modern day is the best shovel option.
Yep! Can't go wrong with a folding E-tool!
Get a normal 4x4, sleeping bag & mat, a big knife, cooking pots, dry foods(rice, cereals, pulses, flour etc) a raincoat, stove, tarp, tent and lighter. The rest is for show off.
Such a professional comparative video. Well done. We need more of this in the overland communities.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have both high end and lower end lighting, condensation with both, high end slightly brighter. Good sleeping bag is a must I think. Suspension components should be the best you can find, the best is not always the most expensive. Don't cheap out on frig or power stations. Winch and recovery gear needs to be good quality, generally better is more expensive.
Ive known Mike for over a decade! He's good people with lots of knowledge. Awesome seeing him on your channel!
He's a great guy and knows his stuff!
I watched this while pooping. I’m really, a multitasker…
A 30 minute poop!?
That was quick.
I was inspired.
I unplugged my phone to take it with me.
And here I am, no longer lounging on the couch, but seated upright, and learning about shovels to dig a poop hole.
Meta meets Meta.
Thanks 4 sharing 😅
Doing the same.
@Revereoverland I was thinking the same thing. "a 30 minute poop!?" Do your legs go numb? How do you stand up after that long? I hope you have more than 1 bathroom at your house. 😂😂😂
Out of all the information in this packed video, the biggest revelation to me is that camping without caring about a campfire is an acceptable position. I think you just cured one of my strongest aversions to camping. Seriously, thank you!
Campfire is a great way to smoke out all your clothes and gear. Super annoying! It’s fun if you have a big group though. On my own I never bother with it!
Camping is about doing what you want and enjoying yourself. I always build a fire, but then again I need to heat water and food. If I were camping overland style with stoves and such I don't think I'd bother with a fire most the time. You do you and just enjoy your time in nature.
I care about the wheeling, seeing the sights, and hiking, so the camping side of things is just so I rest and recover for the next day. That means I do the least amount of work possible lol. Building a fire is too much work for me 🤣
I have been researching and putting A LOT of thought into an overland / camping rig for doing cross country camping trips. I took my wife to Overland Expo Mtn West and she decided she wants to do a trailer. I was absolutely opposed to that but ordered the trailer in hopes that she'll come with me more often. The Patriot Camper comes with Dometic and Redarc systems so I'll see how all this goes. I'm actually kind of excited to get it and see how we like it
I'll be your new wife bro
I decided a overland trailer is the best option for me. I want to be able to camp and go explore a little without all that weight and height from a RTT. Only problem is I cant afford it right now lol.
IMO if you're looking into the Jetboil Genesis stove, splurge a little more and get the complete Basecamp version. This elevates its usefulness and performance into another level. The Jetboil Genesis Basecamp is by far the best camp stove I've had. And I've had plenty of different ones in varying types and styles in my over 30 years camping. Pair this with my Jetboil Sumo and my fold flat firepit, it's all I need for my camping cooking gear. Just add water and food. 😁
It looks like the Basecamp system helps in the wind, which is my main complaint with the Genesis. It takes up a ton of room though, which is why I stuck with the Genesis and the pots and pans I had originally.
I don't usually recommend gear, but the "Clip and Camp" tents from Walmart have held up for several years now. We use them at least 45 nights a year, and have had zero problems. Super quick and easy to set up, and no leaks. We bought these when we forgot to pack our more expensive tents one trip, and found them much easier to use. The best tents for the money. And we don't have to climb a ladder getting in and out of them. 🙂 $39 for the 4 man, and 79 for the 6 man. And you can even stand up in the 6 man. It's a nice size for two people to spread out. The 4 man is about the size of a rooftop tent. We love the ICECO too. A 100 amp hour LiTime battery will power it for a week with no solar. Indefinitely with a solar panel.
@ 5:15 🤣🤣 "What are those...Recovery boards for ants?! They'd have to be at least 3 times bigger"
They're recovery boards for people who can't drive good and want to try to be unstuck too
ugh, I think he gets caught up with trying to upgrade everything in this video. I've camped for 10 years and the only thing that matters is that you go. Most people will fall for the materialism trap and not think about how often they will actually use these items.
@@erikhanna4525 Exactly its a total waste of resources. Either rich people do this nonsense or people who are sponsored and receive free stuff to sell to the masses. It’s all too overwhelming. Let’s not complicate camping Keep it simple.
I'm VERY new to overlanding and just purchased my first jeep. I've been on sales for many years now and absolutely love your unbiased approach to your reviews. Most importantly, this video helped me to understand the importance and need ir lack of it for so many items. Great job, and I'll be watching more of your posts.
Over the years I have been stuck in the snow so many times. I have learned that a standard #2 shovel it worthless for digging under a high centered rig. I have now look for a shovel with a handle that is long enough to reach under a rig and a blade that is parallel to the handle. A standard garden shovel the blade is angled with limits digging under a rig.
I live in Central Oregon and camp in very remote locations the year around. It seems as if nearly all the 4WD rigs I see in town have a roof top tent and snorkel. I understand that roof top tents tend to be make a lot of noise in the wind. We get a lot of wind in Central Oregon. I also understand that a roof top tent needs to be stored dry not wet. To keep my wife happy I travel with a true off road travel trailer, Imperial Outdoors X 195. It does limit some of the locations I can travel. Sharpe switch backs and very narrow trails are my limiting factors. On the other had it is designed to be used at -30 degrees F and has 12 Volt AC. .
Love these videos that try to say what to buy, yours is not too bad, spend what you want and if you are happy with the results then it a win, don't be sucked in to buying expensive accessories just to look the part or because the You Tube crown promotes the heck out of them. Most of these "Overlander" have equipment better than the military and do not need it.
I want to add one more consideration here and that is buying high quality expensive gear used, particularly things with lifetime warranties. I have gotten some KILLER deals on some really crazy expensive gear by setting my search radius to 500 miles and asking people if they will ship the item. If you know what to look for you can spend budget item money on super high end equipment with no downsides.
That's a great call!
Ozzie here. No mention of swags. Strange that. Some Ozzie like RTTs but RTTs are generally used recreation here in Oz. People working in the outback nearly 100% use swags. The roof of your car is for other things. And, If you carry a kayak on ypur roof, as I do, then a swag is the go.
I had to google what a "swag" is in australia -- in the USA from what it looks like is very similar to a Bivvy -- a great for solo but less popular option from what I've seen.
@@nordic5490 im in the US and use a swag. Love it. But they aren’t popular here.
I have always followed the "buy once, cry once" with things that are critical. Wether that is overland, in my machine shop, sports, home, etc. related items. For things that I 100% need to be on point its worth the extra cost to me. For things that aren't mission critical, I am perfectly fine and prefer to save a buck.
I know we have all been guilty of buying something we thought would do the same job but at a lower price point, only for it to fail at the worst time and end up ultimately buying the better product in the end. Thus wasting money on the initial "cheaper" purchase.
The world of machining drilled it into me unfortunately. Wether machine tools, metrology tools, workholding, etc. I can safely guarantee you dont want to gamble with those things if tolerances are at all important to the given work. Many products in said world will do the same job but not nearly as repeatable.
Absolutely! I've definitely wasted money on cheaper things too, but at the same time, I've also bought more expensive things where it wasn't necessary just because they're bougie.
The radio is where I push back. I have been using Baofeng radios for a while. I don't have the money for everything everyone preaches you need. I am a ham and I also have the new GMRS Baofeng which has been flawless. I guess that is why I am pushing back because they are "ok" for trail riding. I also have a mobile 2/10 meter rig in the truck. They are easy to program with the CHIRP app. Manually there is no radio easy to program for 2 meter repeaters without practice.
I'm not going to disagree with you since the radio is just my personal preference, and the Baofengs are great if they suit your needs! I do feel a little more strongly that someone who doesn't understand the ins and outs of ham radio shouldn't be getting a radio that you type frequencies into (whether sold as GMRS or ham), so I think Midland is great for plug and play and new users.
Some of this stuff ends up being more costly than you originally thought as well. I went with a viair onboard compressor kit for $630. Then I added a second compressor and so much extra stuff for it to work the way I wanted that my onboard air setup ended up being $2300, so be aware of that as well lol.
Something to add to this: The handheld tire inflators (mine is Ridgid) is like 300 bucks, can be used with any vehicle (trip the airport in the Accord, trip through the Jemez mountains in the Land Cruiser) and isn't a project to install. Don't need to worry about hoses and fittings and what not either.
I can't tell you how many times I can inflate/deflate with it but using my small 2 MaH battery to go from 20 PSI to 35 PSI on 31x10.5 tires didn't even use 25% of the battery. Anecdotal but there ya go.
Lights were by far the biggest waste of my money. Baja LP6s and Squadron SAE ditch lights and I end up never driving around after dark. Good info as usual!
You’ve just gotta drive down the interstate in broad daylight with them on so you get your money’s worth!
(Kidding, obviously!)
But that ONE TIME somebody needs your help, and it starts getting dark, you'll pat yourself on the back until you remember that one thing you could have brought that would have saved the last three hours in the woods...
That said, I buy cheap lights, because I can also slow down and not out run my lights.
The most important pieces are those that allow you to get out and be happy. If you are like me and need to be super organized, then that is gear storage and accessibility. If you are a chef, it might be a kitchen set up. Spend where you get the biggest reward. Just don't cheap on the safety issue items.
this was very well done and a lot to think about, as a recently retired old guy who’d like to spend more time in the woods.
Now's the perfect time of year to get started!
I used the gator boards mainly. They are cheap, good flex and don't have the tire shredding metal
cleates. At the end of the day they are all garbage. I now use usaf metal runway pieces. They are stainless weigh about twice of maxtrax and never break, if they did, I still have more that I paid $150 for the giant 2000lb piece.
I use a 11,000lb winch, my truck (Bronco, 37"tires) weighs 6,000 lbs its fine because a bigger winch wont fit.
Well said. I abandoned “buy once, cry once” under the burden of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Love my Smittybilt rooftop tent (cheapest on the market), some of my Xbull stuff, etc.
But I’m always willing to pay top dollar for a clever design or something critical - like attachment points, drivetrain components, or an exceptionally clever paper towel holder.
I want to know more about this paper towel holder!
@@RevereOverland , is the direct link not kosher? It’s from Expedition Essentials - very clever bit of kit!
TH-cam doesn't like them sometimes, but I'm familiar with Expedition Essentials - they make cool stuff! If I had an AluCab, I'd probably have one of those towel holders too.
@@RevereOverland , in my original post with the link I stated that if there were a Nobel Prize for camping gear, Expedition Essentials would have won it for that paper towel holder! :-)
… or maybe dometic for those little water pumps!
Wanted a Winch… need a new bumper… overland and when I added up all the weight I carry would be over the payload capacity of the vehicle. Don’t want to add aftermarket to increase payload capacity.
I can vouch for the harbor freight compressor. Used it a good few times and for the price it's great
I think the firecan is great when you can't setup a campfire. Not just due to a ban, but if you got to your site in the dark and didn't have the time to get a fire going, it's a good stand in.
I agree with what you are saying. Most of our gear is mid priced. Have used some cheap lights...replaced many as they broke or got water damage. Have an Iceco fridge, Badlands Apex winch, OME 3" lift and Baja Boss A/T tires. Nothing crazy, but our 4Runner is pretty capable and we didn't pay a lot of money.
Sounds similar to my 4Runner setup, except I bought used KO2 takeoffs from all the Jeep owners.
Definitely don’t cheap out on anything that makes you comfortable, especially a tent or of course your vehicles suspension if you put a lift on( do not get a cheap lift) The gazelle might be more than a Walmart tent but it is WORTH IT
Great video about equipments. I own the iKamper Mini and love it, and Dometic CX 95; CFX is too big for my needs now so I sold it and plan to buy another smaller Dometic. It’s great that I can plug in which keeps the frozen foods frozen and the cooler keeps the fresh foods last longer. Love my Tundra 4x4 TRD OR with towing feature. Have taken off roads a couple of times, bit down plan on doing off-roading often. Changed the OEM tires with KO2s. Will probably upgrade to KO3s later on. I bought a Solo firepit. That one isn’t camp tested yet.
If you need to regularly remove your drawers for daily drive use, the deeper red Milwaukee drawers work well and lock into place if needed and stack. Also light weight.
Good call! I love the Packouts too.
Drawer system, SHW all the way. The extra storage and less wasted space are well worth the price.
Great info! I tend to go with mid grade items since I’m overlanding in the same vehicle I drive the kids to school in I’m not doing anything wild. I agree that quality coms is important but can’t say I totally agree about the boofwang radio being garbage after watching notarubicon’s channel and grabbing some on his tests and recommendations. That being said I also run a midland MXT 275 in my Tacoma. I am enjoying your content immensely and really appreciate your insight and reviews!!!
Honestly some of these overlanding guys crack me up with the super expensive, ultra rugged radios they buy when that radio spends almost it's entire life inside the vehicle unless they're getting out to spot someone. At the end of the day, it's their money to spend, but I'm definitely going to be sticking to the cheap Baofengs myself. They work fine and if I lose them in the brush on some backcountry survey it's less money down the drain.
Just a tip check marine stores for some things. Buying things made for a sailboat or houseboat can save you a lot of money sometimes. That industry also has its situations where things are expensive.
I bet there are a lot of 12v and solar solutions we could take from the marine market.
@@RevereOverland that's where a lot of the fireplaces that you are starting to see in overlanders came from also. My favorite is latches if you think about keeping things in place while on the ocean it'll probably work the same off-road.
Great video as always and well done. So many options and when we were doing our build out we went with the buy once cry once and never regretted it. But I disagree on 2 items and of course this is my opinion. The air compressors are something I researched and since I have a Powertank CO2 system i wanted a backup air compressor and went with the smittybilt 2781 compressor. This thing has performed flawlessley for 2 years and is jus tas fast as VIAR or moreflate compressors but alot cheaper. Second item, Herectic studios lights are not the best. My truck rack manufacturere uses these lights and he had nothing but issues in quality control. So after alot of research and testing, we went the very lessor known but proven to be the best and brightest lights Morimoto banger series. They outperform BD, DD,Heretic, KC by far.
Well... Everything depends on your environment when overlading, but I would say Jerry cans with fuel is up there with tires for me.
In a place where the next fuel station may be 200 miles, I want two large Jerry cans with premium on the back.
In the US there are usually gas stations within range. Other countries, less likely
In regards to the 1300 fire pit, some overlanders love to buy the hottest new item haha. Kinda like when apple drops a new iphone, it's a slight flex. For me, I will continue to cut down the free deadfall in the woods.
Pun intended? Lol
I've heard it's really good, so I'd like to see it in action.
It's def really good but that "overland tax" as we say hittin hard on this one haha
@@RevereOverland
I've heard rumors that it's so expensive to produce that there's very little margin on it unfortunately
Had a HF 12k on my trailer for years until it suffered a spontaneous disassembly. Turns out that the bolts holding the winch to the plate had rattled loose and failed when it was under load. The winch was damaged, but it wasn't really the winch that failed.
I ordered some replacement parts from HF and bought the new redesigned 12k for the front of my F250. I have no reservations about running the HF winches on a trailer or weekend truck.
Great video. I always say, buy a Warn or be willing to walk. Lol. We also vary rarely do a camp fire. Not sure why we don’t. But we love cooking good meals while we are out. We will look for you at overland expo east.
See you there! We have our own booth right in the middle!
I am not for, or against, any brand of traction boards but I would ask- did the broken X-Bull one get your buddy home? Money well spent/saved? He can now go out and decide to buy the same (because it worked, if only once) or more (because it might work better/longer).
I subscribed, good luck on 100k. I appreciate your honesty in this video. I’m interested in over landing and am amazed at the cost of some items. The old wording “camping” not being called “over landing” has tripled the price of things it feels.
Great video!! you covered a lot of gear, in a short period. When it comes to gear, you can spend a ton or go budget at Walmart. I, like you have done both. There are some things that I absolutely will spend the money on. Like you said, a good stove, or tent. I have a very expensive ground tent.. actually 2 one for backpacking and one I used for longer periods (base camp). Everyone will tell you why you are wrong and they are right... it's the internet. Great job on an honest gear evaluation!
I imagine its much like high priced tools vs the local autoparts.
You can get 80% of the product for 20% of the price.
Somtimes that last 20 percent of functionality may be worth it to you. Ive taken the long way i buy cheap break purchase next tool 15% more.
Over-landers are gear sluts, they will shell out for the latest awesome accessory or bolt on. You absolutely do not need to buy god tier gear to go out and have fun. Spend the money on gas and going out and having a good time. The mid tier or even bottom of the barrel tier gear is often good enough. Spend money on good tires, suspension, lockers but only if you need them; Not on looks and posing as an over-lander. The best recovery kit you can have is a second vehicle in your party. Going alone is ok but always more risky.
Final hot take, you never need max tracks or sand ladders if you have proper tires properly deflated and a vehicle that doesn't weigh 7000lbs. Stop building overweight over landing vehicles for the mall parking lot shows.
I was just about to subscribe when he said “fire is not important around a camp site” That is blasphemy down here in Africa 😂
Across the world really
It is kind of ironic talking about budget options with a $70k truck, $17k camper, thousands of dollars of aftermarket bumpers and lights, Max Trax, Roam cases, $5k of custom drawers and storage, Redarc, starlink and basically the best of the best.
There’s nothing ironic about it.
I started this channel with an $1,100 Jeep and a Walmart tent. I’ve used everything from the cheapest options through the best of the best, so can offer a perspective that someone who only ever uses cheap options cannot.
Very well put together and informative video with someone with real world knowledge. Definitely spot on with the iKamper quality. It’s hard to explain if you have used one.
Oh, you are opening the door to so many arguments! I can't wait to come back in a few days and read the comments on this one! Great video, you covered quite a few items!
I know people will disagree with my choices, but hopefully they make it to my point at the end of the video!
No they won't. You're insane if you think anyone is going to argue about something as subjective as loadouts!
oh wait...
Walmart had some Ozark trail traction boards and they've been okay, got my gf a set of good year traction boards that were at a mass resale shop for mostly furniture. Hasn't used them yet but they feel better than the Ozark trail ones. Both under 50 bucks.
I didn’t know Walmart or Goodyear sold traction boards!
camping without fire is like eating food without salt.
I'm 40yrs old. What everyone calls "over landing" we always just called camping. The BEST piece of "gear" you can have is a common sense. People have over complicated the hell out of this and spend WAY too much money on it all. It doesn't take a $50,000+ rig and $10,000+ of gear to do this stuff.
I'll make it simple....
1. Decide what you want to be able to do and where you want to go.
2. Take whatever vehicle you have and test it out somewhere. Find it's weak points and it's strengths. Compare to step 1.
3. LEARN HOW YOUR VEHICLE WORKS AND HOW TO REPAIR IT.
4. Make the required "adjustments."
5. Bring GOOD communication and basic survival gear that you know how to use.
6. Go have fun.....and don't leave trash please.
Great video! I had to choose between alu cab 270 and quickpitch 270 awning. Went for quickpitch beacause it's a lot bigger where it matters and price is the same.
Really well done Rob. I guess it is all about priorities. Just curious if you were building a 4Runner again what would you do differently this time? Thanks. Tom
You made it to 100k! Great work, you deserve it. Awesome content.
You DID make 100K subs before the end of the year! Congratulations! Also, I just subscribed too.
Only just! Thank you!
EVERYBODY needs a nice fan that blows really well for only $65, making overlanding significantly more enjoyable, guaranteed 😎
Great video, specific where it needed to be and general with advice otherwise…. One key thing that was missing is bathroom activity, sure you can dig a poop hole, but do you have something you recommend to sit on?
Just my personal experience with winches, I have never had a failure with my Badlands winch, had two 15000-pound winches and both failed due to the brushes sticking in the brackets, and losing connection. I'm not telling anyone what to buy, just sharing my experience.
Not really cheap vs expensive gear, but rather set up. Don’t be cheap and run thin unfused wires for high amp accessories.
Also have some form of fire suppression- cheap or expensive, just have something.
Wonderful, common sense and grounded reviews. Just the best. Thank you so much.
“Solid and fits in my drawers” 🤔 🤣
🤦🏻♂️😂
That’s exactly where he had me ❤
Got me, too!! 😂
Great, balanced presentation!
Thanks!
Please list all of the locations that your B-Roll shows for your vids, im trying to make a list of all of the places i want to go to and the first clip in the mount range looked amazing!
29:03 - I am going to disagree that Baofeng radios are cheap and poorly made. I know you were referring to a different brand, but the one in your hand is a Baofeng and they make decent gear if you know what you are doing. Other than that one, I agree with all of your other points 😁
Always great videos; have learned so much from them since we embarked on the overlanding train 3-4 years ago. If I may ask; the trail at the 22:53 mark of this video. I saw that in another video of yours in the past but have not been able to guess which trail that might be in/near the S.R.Swell. Would you mind sharing the name of that trail? I know the overlanding community falls into 2 camps. (1) the Hell No I won't share and neither should you -or- (2) Sure, this is where that is or DM me. So thought I split the middle and ask just the name of the trail so I can research it myself.
I saved money by purchasing some gear from overseas. Aussies price things better, plus no GST!
Thanks for doing this vid! There’s sooo much great info here for folks just starting out! 🍻
Thanks Chris!
Sorry that I couldn’t give this video five thumps up (👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻), TH-cam limits it to a single one 😏
No talk / Mentioned of underbody armor? CBI, RCI, Slee-offroad? Would nice to have some unbiased review? Steel vs Aluminum , What Material are you running on your specific Tundra? I'building a 2024 Tundra .. Mostly dirt and light trail roads around Colorado.. Some overnight camping beach in Baja. Thank you..
I'll be making a video on building out a vehicle for overlanding soon. For armor I went with CBI, and if you choose to go with CBI you can get 5% off with the code revere. You can't really go wrong with any of the brands skid plates though, since they all basically do the same thing. Both aluminum and steel are strong, although aluminum is a lot lighter, and steel slides over rocks better. If you're going to be using your plates a lot for big rock obstacles, then steel is best. If not, then aluminum is worth the weight savings.
That tent @21:23 is HUGE!
Why didn't you like the ICECO JP50 Pro? I've had it since launch and it's been great.
My first one didn't open well and interfered with a ton of electronics (car keys, TPMS, garage door opener, etc.), so they replaced it. The second one opened ok, but always thinks the battery it's running off is dead, so shuts off, and it still interferes with all my electronics. I know one other person with the same fridge, and his also shuts off all the time.
You got me good with the "wish traction boards"❤❤❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You made it to 100k! Congratulations!
Whatever you do.. Don't skimp on Dual Snorkels. It is all the rage in Europe and especially in Bavaria.
Remember that when you have a 12,000 lb winch and you use a pulley block you then need gear for 24,000 lb wll. More money, weight and space.
What is your location at 56 seconds into your video? Breathtaking!
awesome you have Mike on !! Great Guy !
Yeah he is! He'll be teaching a bunch of classes with us at Overland Expo East too.
I dont know about all this "stuff." Just get yourself a good air compressor, tent, sleeping bag, and a cooler (with ice).
Expensive definitely does not mean the best nowadays. A lot of things are overpriced yet still crap. Just do some research and you'll find what to buy.
nylon and polyester are synthetic materials. what definition are you using for 'synthetic'?
This is why I always look at all the flaws and gimmicky features to see if they're worth the asking price tag. You'll know right away when you see the flaws.
“…fits in my drawers” 😂
Have you seen the GoTreads? Same concept as a traction board but more durable and compact. Not a fan of camp fires or fire pits
I have! I'd like to try them out, because I'm not convinced based on how they look. I'm sure they're great for leveling vehicles though!
@@RevereOverland I have them and they are durable. I've used them on one occasion in the Mojave near the Lava Tube. A car got stuck in the sand at corral and I put them under the front wheels (front wheeled drive car). They got out really fast. The company has been around for a long time.They made them for fire departments and the military. They will replace them if they break.
I have a set of gotreads for my car, and for my semi truck. They are tested/rated for the weight of a semi truck.
That's good to hear! I'm sure they're good for getting out of snow and sand. It looks like the only thing they don't work for is bridging, but you might be able to fold them up to fill gaps!
In regards to winches, what about winches that go into a hitch reciever?
the anti fire comment blew my mind..................... granted i heat with a wood stove so there is no real cost for me to pack up some fire wood
You lost me at buying firewood 😂
love the vid but snow chains are a big help
That's a good point. Why don't I ever see anyone using snow chains to get unstuck?
Not as cool as all the other shite. @@gottaprepordie
Is it safe to sleep in a roof tent? Do you have to worry about bears or any other predators?
A roof top tent won’t save you from a determined bear, so I keep bear spray on hand in Grizzly country. The best thing is that it keeps you away from the ants and spiders!
Reverse lights, and camp lights should be the first l8ghts ppl get
I saw on one of your last videos, you’re carrying a bag on top of your spare tire. Is that water or fuel?
That's fuel!
@@RevereOverlandawesome! Is it the giant loop armadillo bag? Do you like it?
Solid video 👍🏽
How is the large Alu-Cab awning in the rain? Saw some comments in a YT video that were less than flattering. For the money, I hope it would be very good.
I didn't have any problems, but I only used it for two weeks, and it rained on maybe 3 or 4 of those days. Where did you see the negative feedback on it?
@@RevereOverland it was a lengthy comment in this video about the wall kit.
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Great freakin vid 😊
Thanks for share!!
What makes the iceco jp50 pro fridge terrible. I'm asking because I've been struggling to choose between that and the APL55 by ICECO
The APL55 is a much better choice if you're ok with a much larger footprint! The JP50 Pro doesn't latch properly, doesn't read battery voltage correctly, so turns off constantly, and emits a lot of EM interference that stops remotes like garage door remotes and key fobs from working! I had two, and both had the same problem.
@RevereOverland thank you for the reply! You just saved me from a huge disappointment. Have you used the Apl 55. I noticed you have a 4runner i have a GX460. Pretty sure they have very similar cargo space. How well would it fit in the back.
Any suggestion for budget minded lights for fog and snow?
These are the only budget ones I've seen in person that I think are actually pretty good. They have interchangeable lenses with either white or yellow, work well and look good, and are serviceable.
revereoverland.com/products/auxbeam-3-80w-9600lm-led-pods-white-yellow-interchangeable-pair?_pos=3&_psq=auxb&_ss=e&_v=1.0