I will be maintaining a list of components that have been successfully upgraded in the description. If you have had any success stories, please comment below and I will gladly add your experience to this list. A big thank you to all my viewers and subscribers! Much obliged 🎩 to all my viewers. Like. Share. Subscribe. Enjoy. Support links ☕ BuyMeACoffee: buymeacoff.ee/accessrandom 🐦 Twitter: twitter.com/accessrand0m ► Subscribe: th-cam.com/users/accessrandom _ Due to popular demand, I've made some measurements on the video card (which has also been updated in the description under "Graphics"). The length of the RX 580, measured from the back of its plate to the edge of the card, is 7 1/16". The length of the case is *approximately* 10" - in other words, that would be the longest card that can fit. I didn't measure the width of the RX 580 but it's the standard width of a card that takes two slots. _ ► Please note that there is no need to remove the DVD cover as shown in the video. _ Thx to Ye Wang: No need to pry the DVD cover "like you did there on 2:25, instead [it] has a black plastic quick release tab (seen in 1:43), you can press it in and push the entire optical drive out of the front panel..." _ Also: thx to tinmania: "HP recommends: Before removing the drive cage, unplug the two cables connected to the rear of the optical drive, press the lever on the rear of the drive, and simply slide it out to the front (no screws). Reverse when reassembling." _ ► A note about the PCIe x1 Slot. _ Thx to jofrejkd: You can't use the PCIe slot to install a sound card if you use an NVMe in M.2 slot: "To be clear, the port can be used if... using sata drive... The M.2 NVMe is faster because it actually steals the PCIe ports pipeline... if you install a sound card, it will show it in device manager but the system won't find it" See jofrejkd's comment for workaround. _ ►M.2 SSD _ Thx to tinmania: HP's site lists SSD as NVMe but is actually SATA (MZNLN128HAHQ-000H1). Replaced it w/ a 500GB Crucial NVMe SSD (CT500P1SSD8) _ Thx to Richard Burns: 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD (Crucial P1 CT1000P1SSD8) works in a Pavilion 690-0067c _ Thx to Jon Kingsbury: Addlink S70 512GB SSD NVMe PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 works in a 690-0022na _ ►Power Supply _ Thx to Stephen Craig: in a 690-0067c, upgraded from 310W to 400W (HP part L04618-800) _ Thx to Jon Kingsbury: in a 690-0022na, upgraded to a 500W (HP part L05757-800). Slight misalignment of screws - only one fits - but fits in latch and doesn't move in chassis. _ Thx to PinoyPhantom: in a 690-0067c, upgrade to a 500W (HP part L05757-800). Could only secure the PSU with the top left screw. It has a 6+2 pin connector so you dont need an 8 pin adapter (please see corresponding graphics card update in description). _ ►Case Fan _ Thx to Joe Candelaria: replaced existing case fan with 92 mm be quiet! fan. _ Thx to S6.: 2 x 92mm Noctua NF-A9 PWM 25MM in case. Along with Noctua CPU fan (see following section), temps are ~65°C. _ ►CPU Fan _ Thx to Jake Wagner: upgraded to Freezer 12 (removed the drive cage) in a 690-0024 - idle temps ~25C, full load stress test at ~65C _ Thx to S6.: Noctua NH L12S, with pipes up and fans at bottom in push mode. Along with Noctua case fans (see previous section), temps are ~65°C. _ Thx to Terry Parrott: “First thing you need to know is... the hold down spacing is for an Intel 115X." An AM4 cooler won't fit _ “The case fan sucks air out of the case but the [inlets] are... blocked by the rack holding the HDD and Optical drive... temps run up to 85C+ playing Fortnite. _ “The only way to improve that is to remove the rack... and even then it only drops to around 80C under load. So I removed the rack and replaced the Freezer 11 LP with a Freezer 12. _ “Two problems... 1) the PWM fan for the Freezer 12 isn't recognized by the motherboard and 2) the M3 [fasteners] that come with the kit are too long. _ "So here's what you have to do... 1) order a Freezer 12 and 92mm case fan 2) go to Home Depot and buy 2 packs of M3-0.5 x 16mm Socket Cap [fasteners], one pack of M3 flat washers, 6" zip ties 3) remove the rack entirely 4) plug in the 92mm fan and set it aside (because it’s a hassle with the cooler in place) 5) replace the CPU cooler with the Freezer 12 using the [fasteners from] Home Depot 6) zip tie the 92mm case fan to the Freezer 12 on the RAM side blowing through the cooler toward the back of the case _ "Temps maxing out at 65C under full load... Downside is you lose the HDD & optical... and end up with [an opening] in the front of the case… AMD says the max safe temp for Ryzens is 70C and this was the only way I could get the temps to stay that low.” - ►Reducing CPU temperatures Thx to epc for the following tip on reducing CPU temps: 1 easy modification to increase the cooling of this PC: move the 3.5" HDD from the top to the bottom of the rack. This gives a direct path of air flow going from the top of the rack, past the CPU heat sink / fan, then to the case fan in the rear. On my system (690-0067C), this reduces the CPU temperature by 5 degree C as measured by CPUID HWMonitor. _ Thx to KayBassYT: After removing the cage and losing the optical, I ziptied the sata drive at the bottom of the case against the front mesh plate and it's sitting there stable. I put in a Noctua NH L9x65 cpu cooler/fan. With stock case fan and no intake fan yet (I ordered one just now), the temperature range is 33~47C. This is a HUGE improvement from 55~70C @ 28 ambient @ only 5~15% cpu utilization. - ►Phased Upgrade Notes _ Thx to drunkdonkeydude for the following write-up: Priority upgrades - RAM, Get at least 2x8 2666mhz (The fastest this mobo can support unfortunately) SATA or M2 SSD Drive. Make that your boot drive. I went with a PCI-E 4.0 backwards compatible m2 drive to use in future builds. Mind you this mobo only supports 2 of the 4 PCI lanes the m2 drive could utilize, so your M2 drive will be running a lot slower then it could. Its probably still faster then a SATA SSD though. Either of them is a HUGE upgrade over the crappy HDD. I had to unplug the hard disk when putting windows on the new drive for it to boot properly, then I was able to set the HDD up as a secondary large storage. _ Those will be your most important and easiest upgrades out of the box. Next will be a CPU or GPU if you want to keep going. Read the description to see what others have gotten away with. You only have about 10 inches of clearance and not a lot of power to spare. My unit had a 400w PSU. This limits our choices. So I went with a RTX 2060 super, figuring the GFX card will come to whatever future machine I build. The CPU is also tricky. This motherboard does not support the X version of the ryzen chips. Because of power limitations and motherboard limitations, realistically your best options are a R5-2600 or a R7-2700. You could also look into 1000 series chips if you would like but those arent all supported either. Since this motherboard cannot overclock, I went with an R5-2600 for its higher base clock speed and comparable performance in games. You could potentially get a nice deal on a CPU right now as 3000 series Ryzens are doing well and folks will want to get rid of their old ones. Sadly we cannot use those new 3000 series CPUs. But worry not! _ If a new SSD and RAM upgrade are phase 1, and a new GFX card and CPU are phase 2, and you've come this far and still are considering the future of your invested machine, then consider phase 3: A new case, motherboard, and power supply. I would go with a newest chipset that can still support your Ryzen 2000 series CPU if you can. Like perhaps the x570 later this year or next year when prices have come down a bit. A new motherboard will give us a lot of improvements and features over HP's proprietary customized junk. More slots for RAM, expansion, potentially more ports, incorporated cooling, THE ABILITY TO NOW OVERCLOCK OUR CPU FREELY. A new Power Supply to facilitate this new case and board will also mean being able to support a whole bunch of expansions and devices and overclock that graphics card without fear of overdrawing from HP's weak 300-400w PSU You may also want to buy faster 3000mhz DDR4RAM at this point to replace our old 2666 mhz RAM. Better RAM speed/timing will get you bigger yields over marginal OCs in many cases with Ryzen CPUs. _ If you've gotten to or past phase 3 and have moved all your expensive components to a new case/board, did your overclocking, or decided its not for you, and are ready to embrace the future...Well, you're pretty free at this point. You could buy a 4000 series Ryzen (5000 series?). You could buy a RTX 3080ti or 3660ti or whatever is relevant at the time. Better coolers for more overclock tinkering. _ tl;dr 4 phase upgrade plan to turn our dinky prebuilt storebought mass produced PC into an unbeatable titan of the future. - ►CMOS Reset Notes - Thx to Chris for an important note about re-setting the CMOS: Before upgrading make sure you update the latest BIOS and make sure you are very patient since this computer is extremely hard to upgrade. Make sure you clear the CMOS before you install your new components since this motherboard is so stubborn recognizing new components which I made the mistake of not clearing the CMOS which made the PC not boot at all and cause a boot loop. To reset the CMOS it is very hard to do without removing the GPU out of the computer so make sure you do that and remove the battery from the PC for a couple of minutes and put it back on. When you finally boot with the new CPU make sure you press Y which will Reset the fTPM which will remove user accounts but not the data on the drive windows is installed on and you can always add back the user accounts if you want.
I have upgraded the RAM with another 8GB module (since the existing 8GB is one module, not two 4GB modules--thankfully). I bought the module from Amazon, and it matches the specs of the existing RAM: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0734V4SSR It was recognized fine, and runs in dual channel mode at 2666MHz, as it should.
if I buy a WD hard drive, will it come with screws to mount it? I don't think it does, i've seen unboxings on youtube. Would I need to buy a sata data cable to connect to the board? if so, which one. Where do I get these screws and what size are they
Just ordered to be what I understand is the original ram that came with the box: Samsung M378A1K43CB2-CTD on amazon here: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F72RJYN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 UPDATE:. JUST INSTALLED AND COMPARED THE RAM. SAME EXACT ONE.
I know I’ve asked a lot of questions on this video- all I have to say now is thanks so much! I had this PC and in the past week, I added a Ryzen 7 2700, 16GBs and today a 1TB SSD. Thanks a lot!
Hi, ii have the 690-0020 and ii want to know if ii can upgrade to the ryzen 7 3700x or can ii only upgrade to the ryzen 7 2700 also can ii make these upgrades without changing the stock cpu cooler? Ii also want to know if ii can upgrade my rx 580 4gb to a gtx 1660 ti 6gb
Thank you so much for this video. Ive got the Ryzen 7 2700 version. Its my first PC. I have watched this video several times already! And thank you to all the comments, Im learning allot
PLEASE HELP. I purchased the HP Pavilion 690-0020 and it doesn't come with an ssd. I created a backup device using an empty 128gb sd card. I put the sd card into a usb adapter. Then I changed some setting so now I can select it as a legacy boot device (Labeled "generic usb device"). When I select it to boot the pc, it doesn't boot, it does something else like "attempting to repair pc" or something like that. I would really appreciate any help I would really like to use an ssd in this computer. Is it possible that the motherboard just doesn't support usb booting and I need to use a cd to boot the pc? Thanks in advance!
With the HP recovery manager, you can create recovery media (in my case, I created a set of four recovery DVDs using the DVD writer - I believe you can a USB disk though I'm not 100% sure about that). Once you do that, you can boot to the DVD and restore the factory image to the SSD. I recommend that you physically disconnect the hard drive before restoring to the SSD.
Regarding the optical drive, at 2:33 in the video. You don't have to pop/pry off the front cover. HP recommends: Before removing the drive cage, unplug the two cables connected to the rear of the optical drive, press the lever on the rear of the drive, and simply slide it out to the front (no screws). Reverse when reassembling. I like that method since you don't risk breaking a tab on the plastic cover, as I have seen reported.
I have the Ryzen 7 version of this (model 690-00xx) with 16 GB of RAM. It's awesome for video editing. Going to upgrade to 32 GB of RAM soon. Nice video, it definitely helped me figure out how to access the RAM slots.
@@SpyderBlackOfficial I replied to this a few days ago with a link to the RAM that I used, but my reply must've been deleted. So here's the description of the RAM that I bought from Newegg: G.SKILL Aegis 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Memory Kit Model F4-3200C16D-32GIS
Hi, ii have the 690-0020 and ii want to know if ii can upgrade to the ryzen 7 3700x or can ii only upgrade to the ryzen 7 2700 also can ii make these upgrades without changing the stock cpu cooler? Ii also want to know if ii can upgrade my rx 580 4gb to a gtx 1660 ti 6gb
ok it arrived and I have installed it but now I will watch yout other video on the ssd on the dell laptop. Thank you so much you deserve the best!!! Thanks
For what its worth at this later date, I have the latest model of this same sort of setup but with a 3700x and an rx550. Similar proprietary 310W supply and motherboard. The power supply has a 6+2 power connector for a gpu, so I have 150W plus the 75W from the slot for a gpu. At the wall power measurements (subtract for PS inefficiency) with both cpu and gpu pegged was ~120W. The PS is a dual rail, so half the supply heads to the motherboard connectors and half going to that gpu connector. The RX550 draws ~50W full tilt, so the power demands for the cpu/motherboard/peripherals is around 70W. Here's what I did. Add second stick of the same 2666 ram. I did tests with 3200 which the mobo is supposed to support, but it stubbornly wants 1.2v memory and anything I did involving 1.35v memory cut the speed to 2133. I software overclocked the 3200 memory and memory benchmarks improved. Overall system performance, however, did not. The second stick of ram enabled dual channel and huge cpu and memory performance boosts. It was $32. Added a short RX570 (both not tall and not long). The big drive cage in the video above no longer is in there, but it still has a smaller black mesh thing that I could find no purpose for, so I just removed it as it was blocking airflow a bit. With that out, you might get a long card in, but with it in, the gpu power connectors were rubbing against the cheese grater black mesh panel. $99. You could go 1650, 1650 super, rx5500, plausibly an rx5600 or a 1660. As long as the gpu power is < 150w, you should be fine. Additionally, the cpu cooler has way too small of a heatsink and I just saw an interesting video talking about cpu heatsinks and the newer AMD chips that are 'chiplet' or monolithic pieces of silicon. In the old days, most of the heat from a cpu came from near the center, now its all over the surface of the chip. Many heatsinks have a round contact point. BAD for these AMD designs. When I removed the old cooler, yep, round contact point, very bad thermal paste application (all over the place, some of the cpu not covered). I had an old i7 cooler I used water cooling on laying around, the cooler is intel spaced, not amd spaced, so after removing the old cooler and cleaning the paste off the chip, the new one screwed right in, no problem. And it has a square contact point. Much larger spire heatsink as well. I found that running the cpu hard (folding@home anyone) was driving the cpu up to 100% and I was seeing cpu temps in the mid to upper 80C range. Not what I like to see. With this new one (spire is about twice the size) a square contact and good thermal paste application, this dropped to 75-77C at the max. Much better. Free because I still had that old cooler laying around. I also replaced the case fan with a same size cpu fan from another cooler, better quality and moves more air. Also free. Sometimes hoarding old electronics pays off! So don't sweat the power supply even at 310W. You're good to go with anything gpu wise other that super high end cards like a 2070 or 2080 or 5800.
@@accessrandom Thats the one! Got it for $368 plus tax late last year. Was $550, they said it had a 1tb drive it didn't have and gave me $50 back for that, and I got 20% cash back plus office depot and credit card rewards. Steal of a deal. One thing I'll mention regarding the 3700x in particular is it seems that the cpu firmware/bios/OS power settings still aren't settled. Folks with huge radiator water coolers are able to maintain a low (~30C) idle temp but most people including those using the AMD Wraith are seeing 50C at IDLE and almost 90C at full load. I installed two different coolers yesterday, a much larger heat sink model with a bigger fan, and an Aidos tall radiator/heat pipe model. Neither one reduced the idle and load temps very much, but that i7 bigger heat sink cooler I replaced the OEM one with works quite well, doesn't take up much space in the case, and is definitely better than stock. Seems there are issues with overboosting and overvolting the cpu that happen automagically in the cpu, causing the higher temps. Its really easy to replace the cooler in this. No need to pull the mobo at all. I just unscrewed the old one, cleaned the cpu, applied fresh paste and screwed the new one on. So my key takeways from this were to not bother trying to get faster ram than 2666 to work, its a waste of time but definitely install a second stick for dual channel. Replace the stock cooler with a bigger heatsink; the one it comes with is only 1/2"! I'm pleasantly surprised at how much GPU this can take, just watch the height of the card. And that "small" 310W supply is more than enough for most mid range to upper mid range gpu's. Fairly quiet machine also, unless you run folding@home with both a cpu and a gpu load...
@@tfharper That's a great deal 👍 It's a curious combination of a high-end processor with a not-as-high graphics card (heck, most of the cost is in the CPU). I'm wondering if the general airflow within the case isn't carrying the heat out as efficiently as it should. Pinning your comment - thanks for the great info.
@@accessrandom Well that was the thing, the "experts" all said it was a stupid machine because it was cpu heavy and had a weak PS and GPU. Well, it can take a much bigger gpu, the PS isn't an issue and even the old RX550 played a surprising number of admittedly lower end games, but it played Doom 2016 quite well, which surprised me. When I put the RX570 in it, I put the RX550 in my HTPC, which was a great upgrade over the intel 530 integrated graphics I had. Nope, the case flow isn't the trouble with the cpu heat. I had the side off and a 12" fan blowing right at the mobo. Not even a flinch in heat. As I understand it, the new Ryzen "PBO" (precision boost) overvolts and overboosts to levels that aren't well controlled by air based coolers, even humongous well regarded ones like that Aidos tower cooler I tried. Only folks not complaining about it have the big 120-140mm water coolers. Apparently AMD is okay with the cpu running up to 90C with PBO to get max performance. I'm not really that okay with it though. However I'm a bit stuck momentarily. You need Ryzen Master to turn PBO off and that won't run if you're using hyper-v, which I definitely use. So I might have to make a boot usb to run ryzen master once to turn it off, as its on by default. If you look at places like anandtech or even AMD's own forums in the cpu sections, everyone is having heat problems with the 8+ core cpu's, even with AMD's wraith cooler and high end pastes. The combination gives "I have to build it myself" and "everything has to be a gaming machine with 200fps" folks the creeps. But considering that the vast majority of PC users don't game or don't game much, and the longevity such a SKU has for that 'grandma pc' you'll never have to replace or replacing that ten year old desktop that's still 'okay', or for workstation types that just want cpu and a gpu that'll transcode all day and drive multiple displays. Its actually pretty tough to beat for those sorts of needs. I replaced a ~5 year old HP prebuilt 6700 machine with it. Over twice the cpu, much faster SSD, stuck a 5tb HDD in it and its my daily driver and plex server.
@@tfharperI have the rx 550 model and I would like to know, if you can upgrade the rx 550 to a Rx 580. If not what would you recommend as an upgrade? I just want to be able to play games like Jedi fallen order and Plague tale at a consistent 60 fps in 1080p no matter the settings.
You're welcome, and thank you 🙏. You'll find lots of information from other viewers in the description and the pinned comment, where I keep track of successful upgrades.
1 easy modification to increase the cooling of this PC: move the 3.5" HDD from the top to the bottom of the rack. This gives a direct path of air flow going from the top of the rack, past the CPU heat sink / fan, then to the case fan in the rear. On my system (690-0067C), this reduces the CPU temperature by 5 degree C as measured by CPUID HWMonitor.
@@kennethpacheco1716 No need to modify the rack. The rack is designed to be able to mount two 3.5" hard disks: one in the top (the factory default position), and one in the bottom, which is empty. Just disconnect the cables from the hard disk. Unscrew the 4 screws. Note the location of the 4 corresponding mounting holes on the disk. Match those 4 holes on the disk to 4 holes in the bottom of the rack. The 4 holes on the rack are marked "C" I believe. Reinstall the screws and reconnect the cables. Note the hard disk orientation is different in the bottom rack; it will rotate 90 degrees. Also note HP glues paper washers to those holes on the rack. Take care those paper washers don't drop into the machine as you unscrew / screw.
Ok, I have the 590-p0020 with the same motherboard. I have seen reports of people upgrading the PSU. Based upon my research, power is only delivered via the two four pin connectors. The proprietary connector at the bottom is a PSU fan connector. So, I would imagine you probably could put an sfx PSU in it with those connectors along with a jumper for the 24 pin.
I have bought a newer version of this pc and i’m really glad that all the parts are removable and accessible i’ve gotten it for a steal so if I ever want to fix some of the thermal issues I have I can just transplant it into another case thanks for this video I saw all I needed to know
I found this video very helpful when disassembling and upgrading my HP. I put 16GB of RAM and a 256GB M.2 drive in mine. A few comments though: 1) I was unable to pop the cover of the DVD drive using the method shown no matter what kind of tool I used. I ended up popping the drive tray out in the open position and prying the cover off from the end instead of the side. The tabs that hold it on look pretty fragile and I'm not sure how many removals they can survive. 2) The M.2 drive isn't an NVMe it's a SATA. (two notches in the end, not one) I don't know if the motherboard will accept an NVMe also, but the sites I checked all said SATA.
Glad you found it helpful and thanks for your comments. One viewer has posted the official way of removing the DVD bezel - you can find it in the description (I believe it comes from the HP service manual). Good observation on the M.2 SSD - at one point in time, the spec was listed as an M.2 NVMe, which was very misleading.
@@skinniyp 1) Make sure you bought the correct RAM. It should be DDR4 (do you know what the timings are?) 2)Pull them out and put them back in again. sometimes they don't get seated correctly 3)If it still doesn't work, try each stick individually and see if the computer boots
What are the brands/models of the memory? I may need to list these in the description as something that is incompatible with the HP. Also - have you tried the memory in a different system (if possible)?
Correction to video... no, you cannot use the pcie slot to install a sound card. The m2 ssd uses that pipeline, it's not functional while using the ssd. Can use external USB sound card, use the hdmi or digital ports in graphics card to carry digital sound, or plug 5.1 surround jacks to mic and line in ports on rear and pc will auto configure into output ports. You can access by going into REALTEK visual interface. I own the 690-0034 model with Ryzen 2700. I upgraded the ssd to a larger size and it's western digital black edition. I reconfigured ports on rear to act as audio out for my 5.1 speakers as I stated above. Works great.
@@accessrandom sure thing... To be clear, the port can be used if switches to using sata drive, (ssd or hdd). The M.2 NVmE is faster because it actually steals the pcie ports pipeline... So if you install a sound card, it will show it in device manager, but the system won't find it and will refuse to install software for it. I have my workaround for sound utilizing the rear ports as I stated (set up in the visual interface for realtek), but one can use external USB sound card or use HDMI or even digital port to sound receiver\compatible speakers (provided video card has those) .
Thank you! I had to paraphrase a little bit because I'm hitting the 5000 character limit for the description, but I think I've captured the main points. Thanks again.
@@accessrandom so basically, you can buy another 2.5 hard drive and it would fit next to the oem one but in the opposite direction. Also, what happens if I get a new ssd to replace the stock one, wouldn't i lose windows 10 as the while thing is installed on the ssd
Yes, that's correct - you can add an additional 2.5" or 3.5" hard drive or 2.5" SSD and mount it opposite the existing 1TB HDD. You can also replace the existing 128 GB M.2 SSD, which has Windows on it, with a larger M.2 SSD, but you would need to re-install Windows on the new SSD; alternatively - and a bit more complicated - is that you could clone Windows from the existing to the new (you'd need an M.2 enclosure to connect the new SSD to a USB port so you can perform the clone). Hope that makes sense...
is there a way to overclock ram on these motherboards? I can go to bios but there is no options for speeds or voltage and i cant find how to access the advanced bios.
3:08 motherboard *does* support intergrated graphics. My dad took my pc to use for work. I took the graphics card out and the black plastic part on the motherboard hdmi port and then I tested it. Windows automatically installed drivers and it works 100%.
Thanks for the information. I didn't know it at the time I recorded the video, but I've tried it myself shortly thereafter and can confirm. When you remove the video card, the BIOS will automatically switch to the internal graphics (even though there's no settings for it).
Hey accessrandom, me again. I sold my hp 690 for about $500, and spent another $120 on a dell prebuild with an rx 580 that more powerful than this one, has a ryzen 2700, and a full 1 year warranty. I think this is going to be better for me as its just as loud as the HP but i get better components. This pc is also a lot easier to upgrade physically, and im planning on adding a 1660 super in the future. For the 4 months i had the HP for, it wasnt bad, but i still want something more futureproof
access random i mostly got it for the better cpu and upgradability, so far the cpu temps are way better than the hp, since theres plenty of vents for air to enter. GPU temps are about the same, this model uses a blower style RX 580. Im going to add an ssd later, as well as a better gpu. Thanks for the help again back when i had my HP
Ok so i boot my pc up and now is not working . Now its just a black screen how can i get some help? Im so desperate i have a project to finish due tommorow
Did you disconnect or touch anything while you were in the case, and were you grounded? Check to make sure all your connections are secure, including anything going to and from the motherboard.
@@accessrandom no all i did was just turning on my pc than i realized that battle.net (a launcher for overwatch) wasnt working.So i restarted my pc then i see a black screen saying "Fixing (D:) Stage 1: 71% (51937 of 72448); Total 24%; ETA 8:06;27" I just want to know whats the cause of it and how to fix it if possible.
Sorry for the delay - TH-cam somehow filtered out your comment. Judging from the message, there's a possibility that there are bad sectors on the hard drive. I would try running a surface scan or a chkdsk /r (note: this may take a long time to scan).
Excellent video, really like the detailed explanations and the sequence in how to get to the different components safely. Answered a lot of questions I had, and surely without doubt, for countless other people with this system that are thinking of upgrading components. Thank you and please keep up the great work. Greatly appreciated.
Anyone know if it's possible to transition everything inside to a different case? I understand it's a custom size motherboard but I hate the stock case and cooling system that it comes with.
I didn't really check the mounting holes on the motherboard to see if they had standard spacings for standard cases. I'll need to defer to other viewers who may have had experience with this - anyone?
SAME HERE CAN SOMEONE TELL ME IM TRYING TO SWITCH CASES BUT DONT KNOW FOR SURE THE MOTHERBOARD WILL LINE UP PERFECTLY WITH MY NEW CASE SOMEONE TELL ME PLZ
On my HP 690-0067C, I have replaced the stock Radeon RX 550 graphics card with MSI GTX 1650 Super Ventus XS OC. The new card fits physically. The stock HP power supply can handle it. The new card's fans are much quieter, and the performance is obviously much, much better than RX 550. The new card is more power efficient, but the system as a whole is now generating more heat. CPU temperature is up, not due to higher utilization, but due to hotter air inside the case. The metal case cover near the graphics card is much warmer to the touch. So my next upgrade will be replacing the case fan.
I am upgrading cpu and possibly psu, I have a 180w 80+ gold psu and was wondering if there is a 650 watt psu for the lincs motherboard? I have an HP Pavilion 690 0035no, gtx 1650 lp 4gb, i3 8100 4 core 4 threads, 16gb ram corsair vengance 2400mhz and one samsung 8 gb 2400!
Unfortunately, the power supply is non-standard (with custom pin-outs to match the non-standard motherboard). In the pinned comment, I've listed the successful upgrades from other viewers (under "Power Supply"), but the only ones that have worked are OEM parts from HP.
thanks for this video i got the upgraded virsion of this pc with i5 9th gen and a geforce 1660 but only came with 8 gb of ram and wanted to upgrade glad it doesn't look to difficult
for what you mention at 4:55 about a recovery partition , could i use samsungs data migrate tool and copy the drive to an SSD to upgrade? im a PC noob i dont know what a partiion is, would just copying the whole drive save whatever is needed and allow me to upgrade to SSD?
To make it simpler, you might want to use HP's Recovery Manager to create a set of recovery disks. You can use DVD-R's or a USB drive. Basically, HP will allow you to create one set of recovery disk(s) which contain an image of the factory-installed Windows.
@@accessrandom Okay. after that is complete, is it as simple as to remove harddrive and plug in new SSD? Is the operating system already on the 128gb SSD that comes with this PC? Thanks again really appreciate it.
Sure, no problems. Yes, after you remove the hard drive, you can just plug-and-play the SSD. It will be a secondary storage device to the existing M.2 SSD (which has Windows on it).
its been about 7 months since i had the 690-0010 and i greatly recommend you upgrade the gpu and ram in this system the rx550 is not meant for 1080p gaming at all and the one stick of ram greatly hinders your performance. i upgraded to a gtx 1650 and added another 8gb stick of ram and performs so much better now.
@@kevinjuarez5796 I've kept track of successful upgrades from viewers in the "Graphics" section of the description. It looks like a couple people were able to upgrade to the 1660 Super.
Hey I'm back after a couple of years haha, Replaced the Ryzen 5 2400G to a Ryzen 7 2700. Changed the RAM from 24gb to 32gb of Samsung memory running 2666mhz dual channel. Also upgraded the SSD to the stock crappy 128gb SATA SSD to a 500gb Samsung 980 m2 nvme beast. Before upgrading make sure you update the latest BIOS and make sure you are very patient since this computer is extremely hard to upgrade. Make sure you clear the CMOS before you install your new components since this motherboard is so stubborn recongnizing new copoments which I made the mistake of not clearing the CMOS which made the PC not boot at all and cause a boot loop. To reset the CMOS it is very hard tto do without removing the GPU out of the computer so make sure you do that and remove the battery from the PC for a couple of minutes and pt it back on. When you finally boot with the new CPU make sure you prress Y which will Reset the fTPM which will remove user accounts but not the data on the drive windows is installed on and you can always add back the user accounts if you want. Next up is a GPU upgrade when GPU prices go down.
@@Chris-eq6jbHi, ii have the 690-0020 and ii want to know if ii can upgrade to the ryzen 7 3700x or can ii only upgrade to the ryzen 7 2700 also can ii make these upgrades without changing the stock cpu cooler? Ii also want to know if ii can upgrade my rx 580 4gb to a gtx 1660 ti 6gb
I was able to put an HP 500w SFF PSU into my HP Pavilion 690-0067c. However, I could only secure the PSU with the top left screw. I was also able to install a Gigabyte 1070 Mini ITX into my system. Edit: The model number for the PSU is L05757-800 you can find it in the HP parts store. It has a 6+2 pin connector so you dont need an 8 pin adapter.
@@accessrandom It was a pretty tight fit because the 6+2 pin connector stuck out a little. You kinda have to jam the cables in to fit the cage. Note that the PSU does not correctly fit in the case and that you can only secure it with one screw.
HP Pavilion 790 Gaming Desktop has a very similar front panel design that has a laptop size optical drive but with a slightly larger dimension case . You don't need a plastic card to pry open the optical drive's front cover like you did there on 2:25, instead the optical drive has a black plastic quick release tab (seen in 1:43), you can press it in and push the entire optical drive out of the front panel, so that way the entire optical drive module can slide out (there is no screw or SATA cable to hold the drive).
@@naegleriafowleri1715 Yes, the back of the slim DVD-RW drive looks just like a 2.5inch SSD drive, SATA connector and SATA power connecter next to each other. It doesn't use any screws to fix the drive so you can push it out from the inside with a little of force: take a look at this eBay item's picture, you will what I am talking about. ebay.us/ZM2Y8F
00:02:24 That is not how to do it properly. On the back of the DVD writer, there is a black tab that you need to push, then the DVD writer slides out from the front.
Thanks. I've noted it in the pinned comment (unfortunately, I ran past the character limit in the description). I wish TH-cam brought back annotations so I could put it in the video...
Thanks for the video! I've been looking to get an additional stick of ram for my machine but I had no clue how to even start or how much more I could add.
Hey i got the hp pavilion 690-0008ng and want to upgrade the power supply for a new graphiccard can u help me out by showing which would fit (i have a 310watt right now want to upgrade to a 500watt power supply)
I have been keeping track of successful power supply upgrades in the pinned comment under "Power Supply". Unfortunately, it's a non-standard PSU so the only replacements that have worked are HP OEM parts.
This is my pc , and it is very incredible . I buy it for 500 € and it is : -Small - Sober and beautiful - Gtx 1050 2gb - 8gb ddr4 2666 -Amd ryzen 5 2400g with vega 11 - Disk reader - don't make noises - Wifi integrated - Windows 10 64bits -1 to - SSD
I bought the Ryzen 7 version and upgraded my ram and its a beast! Selling the old sticks of 2x8GB if anyone wants to match originals and upgrade to 16GB. $35 per stick. Also the power supply on mine is proprietary but there is a 500w version of the same power supply with the same connector. I have no need to upgrade the power supply though so I haven't done it. Just the RAM and went NVME and boy are my benchmarks goood!
My man from slickdeals. How much faster is that nvme compared to the sata that came with the machine and hp lied about. We should be compensated for all this. We got scammed by hp
@@naegleriafowleri1715 I think it's much faster but to be honest I upgraded both the hard drive and the RAM basically at the same time. But from a user bench standpoint that standard config was 70% 78% 80% and with just the two upgrades went to 68% 113% 107% I could probably OC in ryzen master and tweak that 68% for gaming but I am not that pro yet and will get there one day. But to be at UFO for the other two categories was major for my use
@@naegleriafowleri1715 outside of overclocking and trying to find better cooling somehow no other plans unless a better GPU that can fit comes a long and then I'll also upgrade to the 500w power supply. I hope someone here finds some awesome cooling options as that's what I want to find before I OC.
Where can I find a 400 Watt Power Supply, or even a 500 Watt Power Supply that looks exactly like the one in this video? I want to upgrade the power supply in my own HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop that looks exactly like this one, as mine has only 310 watts in it, and I want to see if I can upgrade to a Geforce GTX 1060 6 GBs.
I searched everywhere and couldn't find anyone who actually upgraded the power supply. Wish I had a better answer for you. According to a review on best buy, the power supply dimensions are 2.8125 x 2.9375 x 6.25 inches. The official line from HP is "This model uses a standard 12V PSU. Make sure it has two 4 pin connectors. It is not a custom PSU. HP does not maintain a database of compatible third party products."
@@accessrandom is a bronze 400 something psu, it doesn't have to be upgraded, many people buy too much psu power for nothing and don't really need it, this psu is enough for all the components it has
@@jus_ttkrl I upgraded the ram to 16gigs and this box runs PubG and battlefield V (5) in highest ultra setting. smooth as butter, why bother upgrading. Just add the RAM first. The only thing is heating will be an issue once it's out of warranty. The GPU runs a solid 86C when playing PubG for half hour not more.
There is some conflicting information out there - a reviewer at the best buy site is adamant that it's a non-standard PSU, while HP (who has an official presence there) says that it's a standard SFF. I'll need to revisit the power supply in the future as I didn't take a close look at it when I opened it up.
Yes, the other parts are all standard - the CPU, graphics card, memory, M.2 SSD, and hard drive. If you plan to move the CPU, make sure to get a CPU fan since the existing fan won't be transferrable. The DVD drive is a slim-type, so you may need an adapter to fit it in any 5.25" bays.
Hey so i was trying to put an SSD in the machine, and I noticed that with the power cord, it has two ends and then has the bigger end. it’s difficult to explain. but I can’t figure out where this end goes
Do you mean the connector that I'm holding at the 5:13 mark? If so, there's two connectors there (the same size) on the same cable - one goes to the hard drive, and the other would go to your SSD.
access random Thanks for your help, but a best buy employee told me that i would have to sauter a sata power cable to the psu. I just returned the ssd and got a 2tb external hdd. It works great
Priority upgrades - RAM, Get at least 2x8 2666mhz (The fastest this mobo can support unfortunately) SATA or M2 SSD Drive. Make that your boot drive. I went with a PCI-E 4.0 backwards compatible m2 drive to use in future builds. Mind you this mobo only supports 2 of the 4 PCI lanes the m2 drive could utilize, so your M2 drive will be running a lot slower then it could. Its probably still faster then a SATA SSD though. Either of them is a HUGE upgrade over the crappy HDD. I had to unplug the hard disk when putting windows on the new drive for it to boot properly, then I was able to set the HDD up as a secondary large storage. _ Those will be your most important and easiest upgrades out of the box. Next will be a CPU or GPU if you want to keep going. Read the description to see what others have gotten away with. You only have about 10 inches of clearance and not a lot of power to spare. My unit had a 400w PSU. This limits our choices. So I went with a RTX 2060 super, figuring the GFX card will come to whatever future machine I build. The CPU is also tricky. This motherboard does not support the X version of the ryzen chips. Because of power limitations and motherboard limitations, realistically your best options are a R5-2600 or a R7-2700. You could also look into 1000 series chips if you would like but those arent all supported either. Since this motherboard cannot overclock, I went with an R5-2600 for its higher base clock speed and comparable performance in games. You could potentially get a nice deal on a CPU right now as 3000 series Ryzens are doing well and folks will want to get rid of their old ones. Sadly we cannot use those new 3000 series CPUs. *But worry not!* _ If a new SSD and RAM upgrade are phase 1, and a new GFX card and CPU are phase 2, and you've come this far and still are considering the future of your invested machine, then consider phase 3: A new case, motherboard, and power supply. I would go with a newest chipset that can still support your Ryzen 2000 series CPU if you can. Like perhaps the x570 later this year or next year when prices have come down a bit. A new motherboard will give us a lot of improvements and features over HP's proprietary customized junk. More slots for RAM, expansion, potentially more ports, incorporated cooling, THE ABILITY TO NOW OVERCLOCK OUR CPU FREELY. A new Power Supply to facilitate this new case and board will also mean being able to support a whole bunch of expansions and devices and overclock that graphics card without fear of overdrawing from HP's weak 300-400w PSU You may also want to buy faster 3000mhz DDR4RAM at this point to replace our old 2666 mhz RAM. Better RAM speed/timing will get you bigger yields over marginal OCs in many cases with Ryzen CPUs. _ If you've gotten to or past phase 3 and have moved all your expensive components to a new case/board, did your overclocking, or decided its not for you, and are ready to embrace the future...Well, you're pretty free at this point. You could buy a 4000 series Ryzen (5000 series?). You could buy a RTX 3080ti or 3660ti or whatever is relevant at the time. Better coolers for more overclock tinkering. _ *tl;dr* 4 phase upgrade plan to turn our dinky prebuilt storebought mass produced PC into an unbeatable titan of the future.
@@sethrandir If you've done every other upgrade you can, then you would shop for a motherboard, case, and power supply together. Getting your parts out of HP's shoebox case will expand your options dramatically for future upgrades. __ So you can shop for any motherboard as long as: -It fits the case you are shopping for -It can fit whatever drives, GFX card, and other upgrades you may have put into your HP machine -It can fit whatever you think you might want to acquire down the line (networking/USB expansion, cooling systems, more drives, bigger GFX card) -(Of course make sure the case and power supply your looking at can potentially support all this too!) -Any other built-in features you might want - built in wifi, what sort of ports are available, etc. -AM4 CPU Support - While AMD is technically letting some B450 motherboards update BIOS to support new 4000 series Ryzen processors, it will involve taking away support from older Ryzen CPUs (entirely optional). If you're savvy with BIOS this is an option. I would rather not fuss with it. Some viewers have 1000 series Ryzens and some have 2000 series. Some have integrated graphics on their processors. For this I can't tell you what motherboard or what chipset you should look into getting. I was considering an x570 board to accompany the Ryzen 5 2600 I'm replacing the stock CPU with, because x570 supports 2000 series Ryzen CPUs, *and* the upcoming 4000 series Ryzens. I wouldn't have to mess with updating BIOS. This gives my CPU an upgrade path to go into the future with, as well as the added bonus of actually letting the Ryzen 2600 be overclocked on the new board (unlike HP's) until then. __ Not a bad deal at all. Sadly x570 boards run a little more expensive right now. And new releases always have some uncertainty. That is why this is a final upgrade step. Its something to keep on your radar while you shop for other parts of your PC, but not something to actively look for for another year or so, unless an amazing deal falls out of the sky.
I got this same model from wal-Mart lol just to dip my feet in the PC world and I love it will never go back to console how ever it could b a lil faster witch I’ll prob do soon it’s a grate PC for anyone just getting into PC gaming iv even done a bit of streaming off it and it’s really good for the money u payed
I have one of these, its a HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop 690-0028b. Got it from Arron's years back. Funny part about it, no graphics card, no SSD, no nothing. Over a thousand dollars for a metal box and some flashing lights.
quality vid, i just upgraded my 0020, it's the one released earlier that year and actually has integrated graphics capable.. it's lacking the nvme ssd, i upgraded with an old regular ssd.. and yes, you'll need a bracket, except what i did was simply switch the hdd to the other side of the cage.. and then above the disc player, there's screw holes to mount an ssd directly.. again, thanks for the vid.. the only thing is the plastic giftcard did not work for me LoL! use a paperclip to press the extra button inside the front pinhole, and pry the disk cover off by hand 😂 🤣
How did you get the ssd to work, I tried the same thing, but the computer won't let me boot from an sd card or a usb stick, so how did you do it please?
Successfully upgraded the GPU from a 4 GB RX 580 to an 8 GB Sapphire Pulse RX 6600 using a 6-to-8 pin adapter. I had to removed the black GPU bracket attached to the black drive cage. It was held in place with just one screw and then I pushed on the tabs on the other side to remove it. I also moved my HDD to the bottom of the case for better airflow and my boot SSD I have just resting on the bottom of the case. I already upgraded the CPU a couple years ago to a Ryzen 5 2600 and the RAM to 2 sticks of 8 GB, 16 GB total. With the disk drive removed, my idle CPU temp is around 55 degrees now. If anyone has any suggestions on covering the disk drive slot with some kind of dust protection, please let me know.
AXD 210 Lol I have one with the RX 580, my only gripe is that with some games I get a blank black screen for a couple of seconds every now and then. I would assume the gpu isn’t getting enough power is why it happens, but I’m going to buy a new case, motherboard and bigger power supply and possibly cpu cooler to see if the extra air flow and power will help with it.
John Lee yeah how’d it turn out? Mine is doing the same thing.. I also suspect the power supply. My screen won’t turn on at all now. I’ve seen some videos about cleaning the ram so I’ll try that tomorrow.
One caveat is that the pins for the power connector on the motherboard and the power supply are non-standard, so they would need to be moved together. All the other components (graphics card, memory, M.2 SSD, and hard drive) are standard, and the DVD drive is the thin type so you may need an adapter to place it in a 5.25" bay. Unfortunately, I didn't check the mounting holes for the motherboard while I was inside, so I'm not sure if they are standard spacings. Has anyone else tried this? I checked the screwholes of the power supply, and they are roughly 3 3/8" apart at the top and about 3/8" along the bottom of the PSU.
@@toma3620 Oh, sorry. I think others have done this but they have usually replaced the motherboard and power supply (while moving everything else over).
Mine is the same Except it has an Nvidia GeForce GTX1050 with AMD Ryzen 5 2400 Vega. So basically the same except mine has an Nvidia Graphics card which is crazy. Nvidia and AMD in one PC? Like they made it like that. It's great...really is.
@@benmarsico9403 yes, power consumption could potentially be the only issue. But modern cards such as the 1660 use more or less than the rx580. You should be good!
@@primeshowinc it didn't. I bought the HP pavilion Gaming Desktop with that already inside of it brand new. HP makes different kinds with different specs
I got the one with the Ryzen 7 2700 and 16gb of ram and I absolutely love it. The only real difference between this one and mine is more ram and a Ryzen 7 2700 which btw is a really good processor.
@@accessrandom your video helped me a lot, please keep it up so that I can reference it later. I have it saved in my videos. The 690-0024 is the exact same aside from the processor and the extra ram.
I probably got mine at the same time. What type of videos would you like to see? My holiday spending is a bit depleted so it may be a while before I upgrade anything ;)
Can you swap the processor with anything with an AM4 cable? I was wondering if I could get something like the Ryzen 7 3800XT but idk if that might mess something up or what.
According to HP's specifications website, I'm afraid the 690-0024 will only go up to a Ryzen 7 2700 (so it wouldn't support the third generation Ryzens). With a supported CPU, you can either use the existing fan or you will need one that fits an Intel CPU. Curiously, the motherboard is drilled for an Intel fan, even though the CPU is a Ryzen!
XFX reccommends a 550W power supply (minimum is 500W), so based solely on the power requirements you'd need to upgrade the PSU. In addition, I'm not sure if it would physically fit. You can change the case, but I'm afraid you'd probably need to replace the motherboard also if you plan to upgrade the PSU (to handle the XFX). The PSU appears to be non-standard, so both the motherboard and PSU would need to be replaced.
great post , HP motherboards don't support anything lol, new motherboard that fits that CPU and you are set, even if it means reinstalling a new copy of windows 10
Very good video, but these PC's are throw aways, HP doesn't allow upgrades, mainly because of how the storage partition is, so flashing the BIOS doesn't help. It's only set up to accept what's in it. Unfortunately changing it will cause the PC to be erratic or not work at all. Even more memory modules are finicky. Also you can NOT replace the 400w PSU in this, so hardcore gaming is out of the question unless you want to fry the pc. It also uses an HP motherboard, which wouldn't even cost about $30. So everything is cheap. The one they are "attempting" to sell at walmart has a 1660TI (minimal 450w psu), with a 256gb SSD and an I5 9400F for $579. Sounds like a good deal, but read the horrid reviews these PC's get. Some don't even get ANY 4 or 5 star reviews. They are THAT bad. Hope this helps!
Thanks - after having played with it for a year now, I agree. Other than certain memory modules with very exact specifications, the addition of another hard drive or SSD, and possible upgrades of the video card (within the power requirements), it's a challenge to upgrade this model. You can see some of the limitations and testimonials of certain commenters in the description - especially Terry Parrot's.
@@accessrandom yeah it's really disappointing because I really wanted to get that model with the 1660 TI, and you know the engineers at HP had to know that card requires at least 500 watts. But oh well there are a lot of good companies out there :-). Also it's good to see that yours is lasting at least, lots of complaints that I've seen the computer doesn't even last a few days or weeks.
Jeremy Freeman i also considered getting that model, as i saw it on Walmarte Black Friday ad. You’re absolutely right about all of that. I already sold mine (amd variant) and bought a dell machine. Didnt have the 1660ti but at least it won’t overheat itself
At the very bottom of the graphics card where the card meets the slot on the motherboard, there should be a small plastic sideways lever on the slot that locks the card in place. You'll need to lift that lever to take the card out.
Hey thanks for answering , I found that out myself a couple of hours ago , another question , I did some over clocking and my pc now won’t boot , I tried resetting cmos and using the jumper but none of that works , do u have a solution?
@@chikenkillz5666 Is this for the HP Pavilion? I don't think there are any settings in the BIOS to allow overclocking. If this is for another PC, which component(s) did you overclock (CPU? GPU? memory?), and how high did you try to go?
Are all HP Pavillion PCs about the same size? The one I want has a GTX 1650 super. I was wondering if that would probably fit RTX graphics cards for if I wanted to upgrade later on? Maybe a RTX 3060ti or 2060 depending on what is available.
All of the cases in the 690 family are the same size - but other lines look to be different (like the 790 series). All of the ones referenced in the description and pinned comment are in the 690 family. Others like the TG series are different.
Do you mean that you have the same 690-0024 Pavilion model with the Radeon RX 580 and the Ryzen 5 2400G? If so, according to HP's specs, the motherboard will support an upgrade to a Ryzen 7 2700.
Hi , I apologize in advance for my poor English. I own the HP Pavilion 690-0018nf version, it's the same, but with an i7-8700 and a 1050ti 4g and model H370 E motherboard. I will soon put a RTX 2060 super mini 8g and 32g of ram. However I can not find a power supply of 500 or 600 w compatible, can you help me?
Unfortunately, I've had very few reports on successful third-party PSU upgrades (as seen in the description in the Power Supply section). There seems to be some evidence that the power supply is not standard. It looks like the 690-0018nf uses a Lincs motherboard, and a 310W power supply with a part number of L64961-800 - I think. The HP Parts Store doesn't list the 690-0018nf explicitly, but there are other variations of the 690-0018 listed. If you want to upgrade to an HP part, I would contact HP and ask for the part number to a larger PSU.
@@accessrandom hey, I found a similar model (not the same motherboard) HP Pavilion 690-0029 with a 400w PSU the most powerful I found with pc product number : 3LB27AA for HP store. This is the: Power Supply - GNRC PSU 400W SFF Entl FR with this number L04618-800. However it does not correspond to my request of minimum 500w or 600w. Do you think that a PSU of another brand (be quiet! Corsair, EVGA) would be compatible?
To be honest, I am not sure. I have read elsewhere that the power supply is not pin-compatible with standard PSUs, but I have not had first-hand experience upgrading it. I'll need to ask my viewers and subscribers if they have had any luck - anyone?
Yeah, I know - I wish I had a better answer. Shame on HP for using such non-standard parts. Even the motherboard (in the 690-0024) is non-standard in that the CPU fan mounting points on the motherboard is for Intel, even though the CPU is a Ryzen (!).
If i would add a SSD to the sata port, what adpater do i need? You said "You may need an adapter to mount it" which one are you talking about? Also - What do i use to mount it? Thanks for all the help on this video, had this desktop for over a year and have been upgrading it ever since.. Still new to computers
By the adapter, I simply mean some type of container that has the correct mounting holes so that it lines up with the holes on the cage. Personally, I used velcro to mount it because I wasn't able to find one.
HELP. can I change the case?I mean I want to buy a mid tower to put everything cleaner but I see that this motherboard has a few usb on the front. can i change it?
If you move to a new case, you would need to move both the motherboard and power supply at the same time (since they're both non-standard and are matched to each other). The only thing I'm unsure about is the mounting holes on the motherboard - it is such a non-standard board I don't know if the mounting spacings are standard. All the other components (memory, M.2 SSD, graphics card, hard drive) are standard, except for the slim DVD drive which needs some adapter to make it fit in a 3.5" bay. Like you mentioned, you'd also lose the front panel ports
I don't have any personal recommendations, but other commenters have used the Arctic Freezer 12 (caveat: you will need to remove the internal cage to make the fan fit), and a 92 mm be quiet! fan for the case (you can see their comments and the extensive write-ups for the Freezer 12 in the pinned comment).
in addition to a new 3.5'' HDD and SATA cable. what else is needed to mount the drive to the case? The stock one seems to be inside a drawer of some kind
It looks like it is short enough to fit lengthwise - in the worst case scenario, you can remove the bracket (with the QR code) as seen at the 3:24 mark. The only concern I have is the power requirements - keep in mind that the RX 580 has a 6-pin power connector, while the RTX 2060 has an 8-pin.
@@accessrandom thanks do you think it will work even if it is 8 pin because the rx 550 sucsk and the 2060 ti is decent for fortnite so just wondering thanks again for the info
I haven't tried this myself, but you should be able to use a 6-pin to 8-pin adapter for the power. The 6-pin carries 75W and the 8-pin is 150W, but the RTX 2060 and RX 580 power requirements are roughly the same.
I have an hp pavilion and when I turn it on it keeps turning off and on off and on. I looked inside and I seen a cable witch said P4 on it. And it was not plugged. So I was wondering if you can help me out
Yes, I recommend an ESD strap. You can do it without a strap and you could simply touch the metal part of the case, but you would need to maintain contact with it while you're upgrading the memory.
Would you open the newer version of this pc where it has nvidia gtz 1660 and intel i5 9th gen. I got mine and i wana use displayport on grafik card but i dont know how to open it up
Are you referring to the 690-0073w by any chance? The HP Pavilion 690 family should have the same mechanism to open the case. From looking at other videos, it looks like the graphics card has one DisplayPort on it.
So I took it apart and after putting it back together, the pc no longer reads the hard drive, the cables seem to be in the right order, I may have switched the p3 and p4 cables but unlikely they seem to be length to prevent that, any thoughts on what I might have done?
Make sure that both the data and power cables are securely attached on both sides: the drive and motherboard. Does it show any error messages when you boot, or is it just a blank screen?
So I’m planning on putting it In a new case with more space and 6 fans for better airflow and I have upgraded the ram what should I upgrade after that I was thinking a new graphics card
Sure, a graphics card is a good upgrade (I've been keeping a list of successful upgrades in the "Graphics" section of the description). If you're keeping the motherboard and power supply, just make sure you don't go beyond the power requirements of the 400W PSU.
Ok so I have upgrade psu to 500w, added a rtx 2060 phoenix GPU and 16gb vengeance. But now I want to add a western digital blue 500gb or 1tb Sata III ssd 2.5” do I need any special cable or mountain bracket or is everything already in the pc ready to be installed? Thanks for your help! 🙏🏽🤙🏽
You'll need a SATA data cable to connect to the light blue SATA port on the motherboard at the 5:11 mark. You can then use the spare SATA power connector at the 5:14 mark to power the SSD. To physically mount it, you might be able to find a hole or two on the cage to match the SSD hole pattern, but I just used some velcro to secure it.
@@accessrandom thanks again!! I just got the cable and drive also got the ryzen 5 2600 so I will be upgrading that also when it arrives!! So the PC will be R5 2600, RTX 2060 phoenix, 500w psu, 16gb venegeance, extra 1tb ssd sata iii! All this was done with your help and video! I’m subscribing!! 🙌🤙🏽
@@TheTattoedVRpilot You're welcome, and thank you 🙏 Very happy to have you here. If you have the model numbers of the 2060, PSU, RAM and SSD, I can add them to the description/pinned comment if you like.
@@accessrandom absolutely! With all the help you provided I would be more than happy to try my best and help others! It has become a very capable Vr pc now! All with your help! Here is my list of added components. Ph-RTX2060-6G : rtx 2060 phoenix gpu WDS100T2B0A : 1tb western digital blue ssd 2.5” CMK16GX4M2A2666C16R : 16gb red vengeance lpx ram L05857-800 : 500w psu from the HP website YD2600BBAFBOX : Ryzen 5 2600 cpu with wraith cooler
I have a HP Pavilion Gaming 790-0000nl and I noticed that the panel where the hard drive is located is not the same and the screws are different. Do you have a video which explains how to upgrade that particular computer? I would like to add a SSD but I struggle understanding how to properly open the PC. if you have any useful information let me know.
From the information that i could find online, this is a model specific for the Dutch market but the case seems to be the same as the 690-0024. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any information about the internals so I hope one of my viewers has had experience with it. Anyone?
I upgraded my cpu to the R5 1600. Only $80 at Microcenter. Had to keep the stock cooler though. When changing the cpu, I noticed that HP did a terrible job of applying the thermal paste, it was all over the place and uneven. After changing the cpu, cleaning off and reapplying Artic MX4 thermal paste, the temps were much better. Though temps will never be great given the poor airflow of the case. Also added another 8gb of Gskill Aegis 2666 Ram. Works great.
Thanks! I've added your comments - I had to abridge it a little bit because I'm coming up against TH-cam's 5000 character limit, but I've captured the main ideas.
I will be maintaining a list of components that have been successfully upgraded in the description. If you have had any success stories, please comment below and I will gladly add your experience to this list. A big thank you to all my viewers and subscribers!
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Due to popular demand, I've made some measurements on the video card (which has also been updated in the description under "Graphics"). The length of the RX 580, measured from the back of its plate to the edge of the card, is 7 1/16". The length of the case is *approximately* 10" - in other words, that would be the longest card that can fit. I didn't measure the width of the RX 580 but it's the standard width of a card that takes two slots.
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► Please note that there is no need to remove the DVD cover as shown in the video.
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Thx to Ye Wang: No need to pry the DVD cover "like you did there on 2:25, instead [it] has a black plastic quick release tab (seen in 1:43), you can press it in and push the entire optical drive out of the front panel..."
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Also: thx to tinmania: "HP recommends: Before removing the drive cage, unplug the two cables connected to the rear of the optical drive, press the lever on the rear of the drive, and simply slide it out to the front (no screws). Reverse when reassembling."
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► A note about the PCIe x1 Slot.
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Thx to jofrejkd: You can't use the PCIe slot to install a sound card if you use an NVMe in M.2 slot: "To be clear, the port can be used if... using sata drive... The M.2 NVMe is faster because it actually steals the PCIe ports pipeline... if you install a sound card, it will show it in device manager but the system won't find it" See jofrejkd's comment for workaround.
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►M.2 SSD
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Thx to tinmania: HP's site lists SSD as NVMe but is actually SATA (MZNLN128HAHQ-000H1). Replaced it w/ a 500GB Crucial NVMe SSD (CT500P1SSD8)
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Thx to Richard Burns: 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD (Crucial P1 CT1000P1SSD8) works in a Pavilion 690-0067c
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Thx to Jon Kingsbury: Addlink S70 512GB SSD NVMe PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 works in a 690-0022na
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►Power Supply
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Thx to Stephen Craig: in a 690-0067c, upgraded from 310W to 400W (HP part L04618-800)
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Thx to Jon Kingsbury: in a 690-0022na, upgraded to a 500W (HP part L05757-800). Slight misalignment of screws - only one fits - but fits in latch and doesn't move in chassis.
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Thx to PinoyPhantom: in a 690-0067c, upgrade to a 500W (HP part L05757-800). Could only secure the PSU with the top left screw. It has a 6+2 pin connector so you dont need an 8 pin adapter (please see corresponding graphics card update in description).
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►Case Fan
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Thx to Joe Candelaria: replaced existing case fan with 92 mm be quiet! fan.
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Thx to S6.: 2 x 92mm Noctua NF-A9 PWM 25MM in case. Along with Noctua CPU fan (see following section), temps are ~65°C.
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►CPU Fan
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Thx to Jake Wagner: upgraded to Freezer 12 (removed the drive cage) in a 690-0024 - idle temps ~25C, full load stress test at ~65C
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Thx to S6.: Noctua NH L12S, with pipes up and fans at bottom in push mode. Along with Noctua case fans (see previous section), temps are ~65°C.
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Thx to Terry Parrott: “First thing you need to know is... the hold down spacing is for an Intel 115X." An AM4 cooler won't fit
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“The case fan sucks air out of the case but the [inlets] are... blocked by the rack holding the HDD and Optical drive... temps run up to 85C+ playing Fortnite.
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“The only way to improve that is to remove the rack... and even then it only drops to around 80C under load. So I removed the rack and replaced the Freezer 11 LP with a Freezer 12.
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“Two problems... 1) the PWM fan for the Freezer 12 isn't recognized by the motherboard and 2) the M3 [fasteners] that come with the kit are too long.
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"So here's what you have to do...
1) order a Freezer 12 and 92mm case fan
2) go to Home Depot and buy 2 packs of M3-0.5 x 16mm Socket Cap [fasteners], one pack of M3 flat washers, 6" zip ties
3) remove the rack entirely
4) plug in the 92mm fan and set it aside (because it’s a hassle with the cooler in place)
5) replace the CPU cooler with the Freezer 12 using the [fasteners from] Home Depot
6) zip tie the 92mm case fan to the Freezer 12 on the RAM side blowing through the cooler toward the back of the case
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"Temps maxing out at 65C under full load... Downside is you lose the HDD & optical... and end up with [an opening] in the front of the case… AMD says the max safe temp for Ryzens is 70C and this was the only way I could get the temps to stay that low.”
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►Reducing CPU temperatures
Thx to epc for the following tip on reducing CPU temps: 1 easy modification to increase the cooling of this PC: move the 3.5" HDD from the top to the bottom of the rack. This gives a direct path of air flow going from the top of the rack, past the CPU heat sink / fan, then to the case fan in the rear. On my system (690-0067C), this reduces the CPU temperature by 5 degree C as measured by CPUID HWMonitor.
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Thx to KayBassYT: After removing the cage and losing the optical, I ziptied the sata drive at the bottom of the case against the front mesh plate and it's sitting there stable. I put in a Noctua NH L9x65 cpu cooler/fan. With stock case fan and no intake fan yet (I ordered one just now), the temperature range is 33~47C. This is a HUGE improvement from 55~70C @ 28 ambient @ only 5~15% cpu utilization.
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►Phased Upgrade Notes
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Thx to drunkdonkeydude
for the following write-up:
Priority upgrades -
RAM, Get at least 2x8 2666mhz (The fastest this mobo can support unfortunately)
SATA or M2 SSD Drive. Make that your boot drive. I went with a PCI-E 4.0 backwards compatible m2 drive to use in future builds. Mind you this mobo only supports 2 of the 4 PCI lanes the m2 drive could utilize, so your M2 drive will be running a lot slower then it could. Its probably still faster then a SATA SSD though. Either of them is a HUGE upgrade over the crappy HDD. I had to unplug the hard disk when putting windows on the new drive for it to boot properly, then I was able to set the HDD up as a secondary large storage.
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Those will be your most important and easiest upgrades out of the box. Next will be a CPU or GPU if you want to keep going. Read the description to see what others have gotten away with. You only have about 10 inches of clearance and not a lot of power to spare. My unit had a 400w PSU. This limits our choices. So I went with a RTX 2060 super, figuring the GFX card will come to whatever future machine I build.
The CPU is also tricky. This motherboard does not support the X version of the ryzen chips. Because of power limitations and motherboard limitations, realistically your best options are a R5-2600 or a R7-2700. You could also look into 1000 series chips if you would like but those arent all supported either. Since this motherboard cannot overclock, I went with an R5-2600 for its higher base clock speed and comparable performance in games. You could potentially get a nice deal on a CPU right now as 3000 series Ryzens are doing well and folks will want to get rid of their old ones. Sadly we cannot use those new 3000 series CPUs. But worry not!
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If a new SSD and RAM upgrade are phase 1, and a new GFX card and CPU are phase 2, and you've come this far and still are considering the future of your invested machine, then consider phase 3: A new case, motherboard, and power supply. I would go with a newest chipset that can still support your Ryzen 2000 series CPU if you can. Like perhaps the x570 later this year or next year when prices have come down a bit. A new motherboard will give us a lot of improvements and features over HP's proprietary customized junk. More slots for RAM, expansion, potentially more ports, incorporated cooling, THE ABILITY TO NOW OVERCLOCK OUR CPU FREELY. A new Power Supply to facilitate this new case and board will also mean being able to support a whole bunch of expansions and devices and overclock that graphics card without fear of overdrawing from HP's weak 300-400w PSU You may also want to buy faster 3000mhz DDR4RAM at this point to replace our old 2666 mhz RAM. Better RAM speed/timing will get you bigger yields over marginal OCs in many cases with Ryzen CPUs.
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If you've gotten to or past phase 3 and have moved all your expensive components to a new case/board, did your overclocking, or decided its not for you, and are ready to embrace the future...Well, you're pretty free at this point. You could buy a 4000 series Ryzen (5000 series?). You could buy a RTX 3080ti or 3660ti or whatever is relevant at the time. Better coolers for more overclock tinkering.
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tl;dr 4 phase upgrade plan to turn our dinky prebuilt storebought mass produced PC into an unbeatable titan of the future.
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►CMOS Reset Notes
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Thx to Chris for an important note about re-setting the CMOS:
Before upgrading make sure you update the latest BIOS and make sure you are very patient since this computer is extremely hard to upgrade. Make sure you clear the CMOS before you install your new components since this motherboard is so stubborn recognizing new components which I made the mistake of not clearing the CMOS which made the PC not boot at all and cause a boot loop. To reset the CMOS it is very hard to do without removing the GPU out of the computer so make sure you do that and remove the battery from the PC for a couple of minutes and put it back on. When you finally boot with the new CPU make sure you press Y which will Reset the fTPM which will remove user accounts but not the data on the drive windows is installed on and you can always add back the user accounts if you want.
I have upgraded the RAM with another 8GB module (since the existing 8GB is one module, not two 4GB modules--thankfully).
I bought the module from Amazon, and it matches the specs of the existing RAM:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0734V4SSR
It was recognized fine, and runs in dual channel mode at 2666MHz, as it should.
if I buy a WD hard drive, will it come with screws to mount it? I don't think it does, i've seen unboxings on youtube. Would I need to buy a sata data cable to connect to the board? if so, which one. Where do I get these screws and what size are they
Normally you will need to buy a SATA data cable and the screws, which are usually just sold as hard drive mounting screws. They are #6-32 screws.
Just ordered to be what I understand is the original ram that came with the box: Samsung M378A1K43CB2-CTD on amazon here: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F72RJYN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
UPDATE:. JUST INSTALLED AND COMPARED THE RAM. SAME EXACT ONE.
@@accessrandom how many m.2 slot are there? can i put another m.2 ssd
I know I’ve asked a lot of questions on this video- all I have to say now is thanks so much! I had this PC and in the past week, I added a Ryzen 7 2700, 16GBs and today a 1TB SSD. Thanks a lot!
That's a lot of upgrades! Happy to have helped - thanks for the update 👍
did you retain the stock cpu cooler?
@@accessrandom Will a Ryzen 7 2700x work?
@@josefbecker3267did yu find out if yu can upgrade the cpu while keeping stock cooler?
Hi, ii have the 690-0020 and ii want to know if ii can upgrade to the ryzen 7 3700x or can ii only upgrade to the ryzen 7 2700 also can ii make these upgrades without changing the stock cpu cooler? Ii also want to know if ii can upgrade my rx 580 4gb to a gtx 1660 ti 6gb
Great overview. I appreciate reviews of computers but knowing the internals and upgradability for these pre builts are really helpful. Thanks.
Thank you so much for this video. Ive got the Ryzen 7 2700 version. Its my first PC. I have watched this video several times already! And thank you to all the comments, Im learning allot
You're welcome, and thank you. Glad you found the video useful. 👍
PLEASE HELP. I purchased the HP Pavilion 690-0020 and it doesn't come with an ssd. I created a backup device using an empty 128gb sd card. I put the sd card into a usb adapter. Then I changed some setting so now I can select it as a legacy boot device (Labeled "generic usb device"). When I select it to boot the pc, it doesn't boot, it does something else like "attempting to repair pc" or something like that. I would really appreciate any help I would really like to use an ssd in this computer. Is it possible that the motherboard just doesn't support usb booting and I need to use a cd to boot the pc? Thanks in advance!
With the HP recovery manager, you can create recovery media (in my case, I created a set of four recovery DVDs using the DVD writer - I believe you can a USB disk though I'm not 100% sure about that). Once you do that, you can boot to the DVD and restore the factory image to the SSD. I recommend that you physically disconnect the hard drive before restoring to the SSD.
@@accessrandom Ok I will try the dvd's because when I tried using a usb stick it didnt work
Regarding the optical drive, at 2:33 in the video. You don't have to pop/pry off the front cover. HP recommends: Before removing the drive cage, unplug the two cables connected to the rear of the optical drive, press the lever on the rear of the drive, and simply slide it out to the front (no screws). Reverse when reassembling.
I like that method since you don't risk breaking a tab on the plastic cover, as I have seen reported.
Thanks again! 👍😃 Someone had notified me of that earlier but I will add your text to it in the description.
@@accessrandom maybe make a video on how to do it?
I feel like im watching How Its Made.... I LOVE IT
Lol 😀 but I can't hold a candle to Brooks Moore. Much obliged 🎩
@@accessrandom 🤣🤣🤣
I have the Ryzen 7 version of this (model 690-00xx) with 16 GB of RAM. It's awesome for video editing. Going to upgrade to 32 GB of RAM soon. Nice video, it definitely helped me figure out how to access the RAM slots.
Glad you found the video useful. Thank you 🙏
Which ram did you go with. I have the same exact pc
@@SpyderBlackOfficial I replied to this a few days ago with a link to the RAM that I used, but my reply must've been deleted. So here's the description of the RAM that I bought from Newegg: G.SKILL Aegis 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Memory Kit Model F4-3200C16D-32GIS
Hi, ii have the 690-0020 and ii want to know if ii can upgrade to the ryzen 7 3700x or can ii only upgrade to the ryzen 7 2700 also can ii make these upgrades without changing the stock cpu cooler? Ii also want to know if ii can upgrade my rx 580 4gb to a gtx 1660 ti 6gb
@@Shrulii Sorry, I don't know the answers to your questions. I've never upgraded the CPU or graphics card on a gaming desktop.
ok it arrived and I have installed it but now I will watch yout other video on the ssd on the dell laptop. Thank you so much you deserve the best!!! Thanks
For what its worth at this later date, I have the latest model of this same sort of setup but with a 3700x and an rx550. Similar proprietary 310W supply and motherboard. The power supply has a 6+2 power connector for a gpu, so I have 150W plus the 75W from the slot for a gpu. At the wall power measurements (subtract for PS inefficiency) with both cpu and gpu pegged was ~120W. The PS is a dual rail, so half the supply heads to the motherboard connectors and half going to that gpu connector. The RX550 draws ~50W full tilt, so the power demands for the cpu/motherboard/peripherals is around 70W.
Here's what I did.
Add second stick of the same 2666 ram. I did tests with 3200 which the mobo is supposed to support, but it stubbornly wants 1.2v memory and anything I did involving 1.35v memory cut the speed to 2133. I software overclocked the 3200 memory and memory benchmarks improved. Overall system performance, however, did not. The second stick of ram enabled dual channel and huge cpu and memory performance boosts. It was $32.
Added a short RX570 (both not tall and not long). The big drive cage in the video above no longer is in there, but it still has a smaller black mesh thing that I could find no purpose for, so I just removed it as it was blocking airflow a bit. With that out, you might get a long card in, but with it in, the gpu power connectors were rubbing against the cheese grater black mesh panel. $99. You could go 1650, 1650 super, rx5500, plausibly an rx5600 or a 1660. As long as the gpu power is < 150w, you should be fine.
Additionally, the cpu cooler has way too small of a heatsink and I just saw an interesting video talking about cpu heatsinks and the newer AMD chips that are 'chiplet' or monolithic pieces of silicon. In the old days, most of the heat from a cpu came from near the center, now its all over the surface of the chip. Many heatsinks have a round contact point. BAD for these AMD designs. When I removed the old cooler, yep, round contact point, very bad thermal paste application (all over the place, some of the cpu not covered). I had an old i7 cooler I used water cooling on laying around, the cooler is intel spaced, not amd spaced, so after removing the old cooler and cleaning the paste off the chip, the new one screwed right in, no problem. And it has a square contact point. Much larger spire heatsink as well. I found that running the cpu hard (folding@home anyone) was driving the cpu up to 100% and I was seeing cpu temps in the mid to upper 80C range. Not what I like to see. With this new one (spire is about twice the size) a square contact and good thermal paste application, this dropped to 75-77C at the max. Much better. Free because I still had that old cooler laying around. I also replaced the case fan with a same size cpu fan from another cooler, better quality and moves more air. Also free. Sometimes hoarding old electronics pays off!
So don't sweat the power supply even at 310W. You're good to go with anything gpu wise other that super high end cards like a 2070 or 2080 or 5800.
Thanks for the detailed write-up. This would be really helpful for others - is the model number the TP01-0066 with a silver case by any chance?
@@accessrandom Thats the one! Got it for $368 plus tax late last year. Was $550, they said it had a 1tb drive it didn't have and gave me $50 back for that, and I got 20% cash back plus office depot and credit card rewards. Steal of a deal.
One thing I'll mention regarding the 3700x in particular is it seems that the cpu firmware/bios/OS power settings still aren't settled. Folks with huge radiator water coolers are able to maintain a low (~30C) idle temp but most people including those using the AMD Wraith are seeing 50C at IDLE and almost 90C at full load. I installed two different coolers yesterday, a much larger heat sink model with a bigger fan, and an Aidos tall radiator/heat pipe model. Neither one reduced the idle and load temps very much, but that i7 bigger heat sink cooler I replaced the OEM one with works quite well, doesn't take up much space in the case, and is definitely better than stock. Seems there are issues with overboosting and overvolting the cpu that happen automagically in the cpu, causing the higher temps. Its really easy to replace the cooler in this. No need to pull the mobo at all. I just unscrewed the old one, cleaned the cpu, applied fresh paste and screwed the new one on.
So my key takeways from this were to not bother trying to get faster ram than 2666 to work, its a waste of time but definitely install a second stick for dual channel. Replace the stock cooler with a bigger heatsink; the one it comes with is only 1/2"! I'm pleasantly surprised at how much GPU this can take, just watch the height of the card. And that "small" 310W supply is more than enough for most mid range to upper mid range gpu's. Fairly quiet machine also, unless you run folding@home with both a cpu and a gpu load...
@@tfharper That's a great deal 👍 It's a curious combination of a high-end processor with a not-as-high graphics card (heck, most of the cost is in the CPU). I'm wondering if the general airflow within the case isn't carrying the heat out as efficiently as it should. Pinning your comment - thanks for the great info.
@@accessrandom Well that was the thing, the "experts" all said it was a stupid machine because it was cpu heavy and had a weak PS and GPU. Well, it can take a much bigger gpu, the PS isn't an issue and even the old RX550 played a surprising number of admittedly lower end games, but it played Doom 2016 quite well, which surprised me. When I put the RX570 in it, I put the RX550 in my HTPC, which was a great upgrade over the intel 530 integrated graphics I had.
Nope, the case flow isn't the trouble with the cpu heat. I had the side off and a 12" fan blowing right at the mobo. Not even a flinch in heat. As I understand it, the new Ryzen "PBO" (precision boost) overvolts and overboosts to levels that aren't well controlled by air based coolers, even humongous well regarded ones like that Aidos tower cooler I tried. Only folks not complaining about it have the big 120-140mm water coolers. Apparently AMD is okay with the cpu running up to 90C with PBO to get max performance. I'm not really that okay with it though. However I'm a bit stuck momentarily. You need Ryzen Master to turn PBO off and that won't run if you're using hyper-v, which I definitely use. So I might have to make a boot usb to run ryzen master once to turn it off, as its on by default. If you look at places like anandtech or even AMD's own forums in the cpu sections, everyone is having heat problems with the 8+ core cpu's, even with AMD's wraith cooler and high end pastes.
The combination gives "I have to build it myself" and "everything has to be a gaming machine with 200fps" folks the creeps. But considering that the vast majority of PC users don't game or don't game much, and the longevity such a SKU has for that 'grandma pc' you'll never have to replace or replacing that ten year old desktop that's still 'okay', or for workstation types that just want cpu and a gpu that'll transcode all day and drive multiple displays. Its actually pretty tough to beat for those sorts of needs.
I replaced a ~5 year old HP prebuilt 6700 machine with it. Over twice the cpu, much faster SSD, stuck a 5tb HDD in it and its my daily driver and plex server.
@@tfharperI have the rx 550 model and I would like to know, if you can upgrade the rx 550 to a Rx 580. If not what would you recommend as an upgrade? I just want to be able to play games like Jedi fallen order and Plague tale at a consistent 60 fps in 1080p no matter the settings.
Def adding this video link to my notes and cloud for later use. HUGE THANK YOU
You're welcome, and thank you 🙏. You'll find lots of information from other viewers in the description and the pinned comment, where I keep track of successful upgrades.
1 easy modification to increase the cooling of this PC: move the 3.5" HDD from the top to the bottom of the rack. This gives a direct path of air flow going from the top of the rack, past the CPU heat sink / fan, then to the case fan in the rear. On my system (690-0067C), this reduces the CPU temperature by 5 degree C as measured by CPUID HWMonitor.
Thank you. Do you mind if I add your tip to my pinned comment, with credit to you?
@@accessrandom Sure, go ahead!
@@echopapacharlie Done, added to the pinned comment - thank you!
How did you do that? Did you modified the rack?
@@kennethpacheco1716 No need to modify the rack. The rack is designed to be able to mount two 3.5" hard disks: one in the top (the factory default position), and one in the bottom, which is empty. Just disconnect the cables from the hard disk. Unscrew the 4 screws. Note the location of the 4 corresponding mounting holes on the disk. Match those 4 holes on the disk to 4 holes in the bottom of the rack. The 4 holes on the rack are marked "C" I believe. Reinstall the screws and reconnect the cables. Note the hard disk orientation is different in the bottom rack; it will rotate 90 degrees. Also note HP glues paper washers to those holes on the rack. Take care those paper washers don't drop into the machine as you unscrew / screw.
Ok, I have the 590-p0020 with the same motherboard. I have seen reports of people upgrading the PSU. Based upon my research, power is only delivered via the two four pin connectors. The proprietary connector at the bottom is a PSU fan connector. So, I would imagine you probably could put an sfx PSU in it with those connectors along with a jumper for the 24 pin.
I have bought a newer version of this pc and i’m really glad that all the parts are removable and accessible i’ve gotten it for a steal so if I ever want to fix some of the thermal issues I have I can just transplant it into another case thanks for this video I saw all I needed to know
Glad you found it useful - yeah, this is a good bang for the buck for most of the parts. Transplanting them is a good plan. 👍
I found this video very helpful when disassembling and upgrading my HP. I put 16GB of RAM and a 256GB M.2 drive in mine.
A few comments though:
1) I was unable to pop the cover of the DVD drive using the method shown no matter what kind of tool I used. I ended up popping the drive tray out in the open position and prying the cover off from the end instead of the side. The tabs that hold it on look pretty fragile and I'm not sure how many removals they can survive.
2) The M.2 drive isn't an NVMe it's a SATA. (two notches in the end, not one) I don't know if the motherboard will accept an NVMe also, but the sites I checked all said SATA.
Glad you found it helpful and thanks for your comments. One viewer has posted the official way of removing the DVD bezel - you can find it in the description (I believe it comes from the HP service manual). Good observation on the M.2 SSD - at one point in time, the spec was listed as an M.2 NVMe, which was very misleading.
Alan Hobson I just bought two 8gb sticks and inserted them both and turned on the pc and nothing happens the power button just blinks wtf do I do ?
@@skinniyp
1) Make sure you bought the correct RAM. It should be DDR4 (do you know what the timings are?)
2)Pull them out and put them back in again. sometimes they don't get seated correctly
3)If it still doesn't work, try each stick individually and see if the computer boots
What are the brands/models of the memory? I may need to list these in the description as something that is incompatible with the HP.
Also - have you tried the memory in a different system (if possible)?
@@pegr
Mushkin Enhanced Source M.2 2280 250GB SATA III 3D TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MKNSSDSR250GB-D8
Correction to video... no, you cannot use the pcie slot to install a sound card. The m2 ssd uses that pipeline, it's not functional while using the ssd. Can use external USB sound card, use the hdmi or digital ports in graphics card to carry digital sound, or plug 5.1 surround jacks to mic and line in ports on rear and pc will auto configure into output ports. You can access by going into REALTEK visual interface.
I own the 690-0034 model with Ryzen 2700. I upgraded the ssd to a larger size and it's western digital black edition. I reconfigured ports on rear to act as audio out for my 5.1 speakers as I stated above. Works great.
That's a great catch - do you mind if I add it to the description (with credit to you)?
@@accessrandom sure thing... To be clear, the port can be used if switches to using sata drive, (ssd or hdd). The M.2 NVmE is faster because it actually steals the pcie ports pipeline... So if you install a sound card, it will show it in device manager, but the system won't find it and will refuse to install software for it. I have my workaround for sound utilizing the rear ports as I stated (set up in the visual interface for realtek), but one can use external USB sound card or use HDMI or even digital port to sound receiver\compatible speakers (provided video card has those) .
Thank you! I had to paraphrase a little bit because I'm hitting the 5000 character limit for the description, but I think I've captured the main points. Thanks again.
@@accessrandom no problem
Good video... enjoyed the added power wrench sound effects when using screwdriver. Nice touch.
Thanks man. No one wants to see me use a screwdriver for 2 minutes so I use that in all my recent videos :)
@@accessrandom so basically, you can buy another 2.5 hard drive and it would fit next to the oem one but in the opposite direction. Also, what happens if I get a new ssd to replace the stock one, wouldn't i lose windows 10 as the while thing is installed on the ssd
Yes, that's correct - you can add an additional 2.5" or 3.5" hard drive or 2.5" SSD and mount it opposite the existing 1TB HDD. You can also replace the existing 128 GB M.2 SSD, which has Windows on it, with a larger M.2 SSD, but you would need to re-install Windows on the new SSD; alternatively - and a bit more complicated - is that you could clone Windows from the existing to the new (you'd need an M.2 enclosure to connect the new SSD to a USB port so you can perform the clone). Hope that makes sense...
access random but isn’t the recovery on the sata hard drive so just swap the ssd snd do a recovery, though you would lose whatever you have.
Yes, that's correct - you can always do a recovery onto the SSD.
Love the sound effect while unscrewing :). Nice Video like and subscribed
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Much obliged 🎩 Happy to have you here. I thought it would be better to shorten those parts rather than show 10 to 15 seconds on each screw :)
is there a way to overclock ram on these motherboards? I can go to bios but there is no options for speeds or voltage and i cant find how to access the advanced bios.
I'm afraid not - HP has locked down their BIOS pretty tightly.
@@accessrandom yeah thats really annoying,i recently upraded to 16gb of ddr4 2666 and it stays at 2133.
3:08 motherboard *does* support intergrated graphics. My dad took my pc to use for work. I took the graphics card out and the black plastic part on the motherboard hdmi port and then I tested it. Windows automatically installed drivers and it works 100%.
Thanks for the information. I didn't know it at the time I recorded the video, but I've tried it myself shortly thereafter and can confirm. When you remove the video card, the BIOS will automatically switch to the internal graphics (even though there's no settings for it).
well thats calming yet informative
I have this computer and wanted to learn how to upgrade it safely and surely. This helps alot. Thx.
You're welcome, and thank you. Glad you found it useful.
Hey accessrandom, me again. I sold my hp 690 for about $500, and spent another $120 on a dell prebuild with an rx 580 that more powerful than this one, has a ryzen 2700, and a full 1 year warranty. I think this is going to be better for me as its just as loud as the HP but i get better components. This pc is also a lot easier to upgrade physically, and im planning on adding a 1660 super in the future. For the 4 months i had the HP for, it wasnt bad, but i still want something more futureproof
Good deal - I think that was the smart thing to do. The HP is going to be for a certain niche gaming market where upgradeability isn't a priority...
access random i mostly got it for the better cpu and upgradability, so far the cpu temps are way better than the hp, since theres plenty of vents for air to enter. GPU temps are about the same, this model uses a blower style RX 580. Im going to add an ssd later, as well as a better gpu. Thanks for the help again back when i had my HP
Ok so i boot my pc up and now is not working . Now its just a black screen how can i get some help? Im so desperate i have a project to finish due tommorow
Did you disconnect or touch anything while you were in the case, and were you grounded? Check to make sure all your connections are secure, including anything going to and from the motherboard.
@@accessrandom no all i did was just turning on my pc than i realized that battle.net (a launcher for overwatch) wasnt working.So i restarted my pc then i see a black screen saying "Fixing (D:) Stage 1: 71% (51937 of 72448); Total 24%; ETA 8:06;27" I just want to know whats the cause of it and how to fix it if possible.
Sorry for the delay - TH-cam somehow filtered out your comment. Judging from the message, there's a possibility that there are bad sectors on the hard drive. I would try running a surface scan or a chkdsk /r (note: this may take a long time to scan).
These vids are awesome. I have this PC and have upgraded based on you vids. Perfect
Much obliged 🎩. Glad you found my videos helpful 👍
Excellent video, really like the detailed explanations and the sequence in how to get to the different components safely. Answered a lot of questions I had, and surely without doubt, for countless other people with this system that are thinking of upgrading components. Thank you and please keep up the great work. Greatly appreciated.
Many thanks for the kind words 🙏
Anyone know if it's possible to transition everything inside to a different case? I understand it's a custom size motherboard but I hate the stock case and cooling system that it comes with.
I didn't really check the mounting holes on the motherboard to see if they had standard spacings for standard cases. I'll need to defer to other viewers who may have had experience with this - anyone?
Alec Weltz did you figure out if you could?
SAME HERE CAN SOMEONE TELL ME IM TRYING TO SWITCH CASES BUT DONT KNOW FOR SURE THE MOTHERBOARD WILL LINE UP PERFECTLY WITH MY NEW CASE SOMEONE TELL ME PLZ
@@sorinzo3902 yeah same want to case swap but I think you need to buy a other motherboard because this is a custom fittings
On my HP 690-0067C, I have replaced the stock Radeon RX 550 graphics card with MSI GTX 1650 Super Ventus XS OC. The new card fits physically. The stock HP power supply can handle it. The new card's fans are much quieter, and the performance is obviously much, much better than RX 550. The new card is more power efficient, but the system as a whole is now generating more heat. CPU temperature is up, not due to higher utilization, but due to hotter air inside the case. The metal case cover near the graphics card is much warmer to the touch. So my next upgrade will be replacing the case fan.
Thanks again for the great info. Do you mind if I add your comment to the description under the "Graphics" section to your credit?
@@accessrandom Yes, please! Thank you for organizing the information for all the HP users out there.
@@echopapacharlie Done, and thank you again! Much appreciated...
I am upgrading cpu and possibly psu, I have a 180w 80+ gold psu and was wondering if there is a 650 watt psu for the lincs motherboard? I have an HP Pavilion 690 0035no, gtx 1650 lp 4gb, i3 8100 4 core 4 threads, 16gb ram corsair vengance 2400mhz and one samsung 8 gb 2400!
Unfortunately, the power supply is non-standard (with custom pin-outs to match the non-standard motherboard). In the pinned comment, I've listed the successful upgrades from other viewers (under "Power Supply"), but the only ones that have worked are OEM parts from HP.
very calming voice and very straightforward. wonderful video.
Thank you 🙏.
The sound effects while removing the screws had ne busting a gut laughing 😂
You just have to be careful with the torque when putting them back on 😀
The video wasn't what I was looking for but your comment kept me around. It was exactly what I expected. 😂
Torqued em bud... lol
busting a what?
Bust a…. n u t ?
thanks for this video i got the upgraded virsion of this pc with i5 9th gen and a geforce 1660 but only came with 8 gb of ram and wanted to upgrade glad it doesn't look to difficult
Sure thing. Yeah, the 690 series of the Pavilion are pretty much the same except in terms of the housing. Only the internals vary...
What power supply did you use for that? I can not find a power supply that has enough wattage for that does not have 24 power pin for motherboard
@@davidcaldera6768 i was wondering the same :( i wanna upgrade my gpu but the current psu is too low to support the rtx gpu's.. :/
if you knew how much you helped me
Happy to help - thanks for the feedback 🍻
for what you mention at 4:55 about a recovery partition , could i use samsungs data migrate tool and copy the drive to an SSD to upgrade? im a PC noob i dont know what a partiion is, would just copying the whole drive save whatever is needed and allow me to upgrade to SSD?
To make it simpler, you might want to use HP's Recovery Manager to create a set of recovery disks. You can use DVD-R's or a USB drive. Basically, HP will allow you to create one set of recovery disk(s) which contain an image of the factory-installed Windows.
@@accessrandom Okay. after that is complete, is it as simple as to remove harddrive and plug in new SSD? Is the operating system already on the 128gb SSD that comes with this PC? Thanks again really appreciate it.
Sure, no problems. Yes, after you remove the hard drive, you can just plug-and-play the SSD. It will be a secondary storage device to the existing M.2 SSD (which has Windows on it).
Can i change the motherboard with a different brand? Or do i need to buy a new psu?
its been about 7 months since i had the 690-0010 and i greatly recommend you upgrade the gpu and ram in this system the rx550 is not meant for 1080p gaming at all and the one stick of ram greatly hinders your performance. i upgraded to a gtx 1650 and added another 8gb stick of ram and performs so much better now.
Thanks for the info - this will be helpful for others who have the 690-0010.
do you think ill be able to upgrade to 1660 super
@@kevinjuarez5796 I've kept track of successful upgrades from viewers in the "Graphics" section of the description. It looks like a couple people were able to upgrade to the 1660 Super.
Mine came with a 1660 super whats the max you can go is my question
Do you think I can use G.SKILL Trident Z ram ddr4 8GB x 2 3600 megahertz with the Sunflower motherboard or do I have to upgrade.
Hey I'm back after a couple of years haha, Replaced the Ryzen 5 2400G to a Ryzen 7 2700. Changed the RAM from 24gb to 32gb of Samsung memory running 2666mhz dual channel. Also upgraded the SSD to the stock crappy 128gb SATA SSD to a 500gb Samsung 980 m2 nvme beast. Before upgrading make sure you update the latest BIOS and make sure you are very patient since this computer is extremely hard to upgrade. Make sure you clear the CMOS before you install your new components since this motherboard is so stubborn recongnizing new copoments which I made the mistake of not clearing the CMOS which made the PC not boot at all and cause a boot loop. To reset the CMOS it is very hard tto do without removing the GPU out of the computer so make sure you do that and remove the battery from the PC for a couple of minutes and pt it back on. When you finally boot with the new CPU make sure you prress Y which will Reset the fTPM which will remove user accounts but not the data on the drive windows is installed on and you can always add back the user accounts if you want. Next up is a GPU upgrade when GPU prices go down.
Thanks again! Lots of good info, especially about resetting the CMOS. Do you mind if I add that to the pinned comment with credit to you?
Yea sure
@@Chris-eq6jb Done - thanks!
@@Chris-eq6jbHi, ii have the 690-0020 and ii want to know if ii can upgrade to the ryzen 7 3700x or can ii only upgrade to the ryzen 7 2700 also can ii make these upgrades without changing the stock cpu cooler? Ii also want to know if ii can upgrade my rx 580 4gb to a gtx 1660 ti 6gb
I was able to put an HP 500w SFF PSU into my HP Pavilion 690-0067c. However, I could only secure the PSU with the top left screw. I was also able to install a Gigabyte 1070 Mini ITX into my system.
Edit: The model number for the PSU is L05757-800 you can find it in the HP parts store. It has a 6+2 pin connector so you dont need an 8 pin adapter.
Thank you! Do you mind if I credit you in the description and the pinned comments, and is the model number GV-N1070IXOC-8GD for the GTX 1070?
@@accessrandom Yes, I am pretty sure the model number is correct. I don't mind being credited in the description. Thank you!
@@accessrandom It was a pretty tight fit because the 6+2 pin connector stuck out a little. You kinda have to jam the cables in to fit the cage. Note that the PSU does not correctly fit in the case and that you can only secure it with one screw.
@@pinoyphantom9423 Done! Thank you 👍
What do you do with the cpu? Leave it as is wouldnt it drag down the 1070?
Tried to upgrade it with a new cpu, gpu and power supply bit it won't turn on.
Any ideas on why?
What CPU did you upgrade to? For the 690-0024, HP lists a limitation of 2nd generation Ryzens (specifically the 2700).
@@accessrandom RYZEN 5 3600
@@thereplication2567 Unfortunately even with a BIOS update the motherboard isn't capable of supporting anything higher than a 2700.
HP Pavilion 790 Gaming Desktop has a very similar front panel design that has a laptop size optical drive but with a slightly larger dimension case . You don't need a plastic card to pry open the optical drive's front cover like you did there on 2:25, instead the optical drive has a black plastic quick release tab (seen in 1:43), you can press it in and push the entire optical drive out of the front panel, so that way the entire optical drive module can slide out (there is no screw or SATA cable to hold the drive).
Thank you for the info. I'll add this to the description, with credit to you.
@@accessrandom thank you for your high quality video content!
@@yewang2361 how is the drive connected to the pc then? when you slide in, is plugs into a socket?
@@naegleriafowleri1715 Yes, the back of the slim DVD-RW drive looks just like a 2.5inch SSD drive, SATA connector and SATA power connecter next to each other. It doesn't use any screws to fix the drive so you can push it out from the inside with a little of force: take a look at this eBay item's picture, you will what I am talking about. ebay.us/ZM2Y8F
@@yewang2361 pic doesn't show the cables though, id rather see a video of my man access random doing this
I have a similar build that has a Ryzon 3 2200g with Vega 8 graphics with a b350 motherboard...I don't know what power supply it has though
Oh you are talking about the 590 one
My brother has the same one however the PC refuses to use the integrated Vega graphics
@@whiskeyTX mine uses it but only 1gb of vram
00:02:24 That is not how to do it properly. On the back of the DVD writer, there is a black tab that you need to push, then the DVD writer slides out from the front.
Thanks. I've noted it in the pinned comment (unfortunately, I ran past the character limit in the description). I wish TH-cam brought back annotations so I could put it in the video...
@@accessrandom Ok
@@accessrandom Yeah, annotations were nice
THIS HELPS. SO. GODDAMN MUCH. Literally could not do this teardown myself until I found this comment.
Thanks for the video! I've been looking to get an additional stick of ram for my machine but I had no clue how to even start or how much more I could add.
You're welcome, and thank you. I'm glad you found the video useful 👍
Hey i got the hp pavilion 690-0008ng and want to upgrade the power supply for a new graphiccard can u help me out by showing which would fit (i have a 310watt right now want to upgrade to a 500watt power supply)
I have been keeping track of successful power supply upgrades in the pinned comment under "Power Supply". Unfortunately, it's a non-standard PSU so the only replacements that have worked are HP OEM parts.
Very helpful! Exactly what I was needing to assist in upgrading my pc!
Perfect. Thanks for this info!
You're welcome, and thank you.
This is my pc , and it is very incredible .
I buy it for 500 € and it is :
-Small
- Sober and beautiful
- Gtx 1050 2gb
- 8gb ddr4 2666
-Amd ryzen 5 2400g with vega 11
- Disk reader
- don't make noises
- Wifi integrated
- Windows 10 64bits
-1 to
- SSD
Wich pc?
the fans gets louder over time
I bought the Ryzen 7 version and upgraded my ram and its a beast! Selling the old sticks of 2x8GB if anyone wants to match originals and upgrade to 16GB. $35 per stick. Also the power supply on mine is proprietary but there is a 500w version of the same power supply with the same connector. I have no need to upgrade the power supply though so I haven't done it. Just the RAM and went NVME and boy are my benchmarks goood!
My man from slickdeals. How much faster is that nvme compared to the sata that came with the machine and hp lied about. We should be compensated for all this. We got scammed by hp
@@naegleriafowleri1715 I think it's much faster but to be honest I upgraded both the hard drive and the RAM basically at the same time. But from a user bench standpoint that standard config was 70% 78% 80% and with just the two upgrades went to 68% 113% 107% I could probably OC in ryzen master and tweak that 68% for gaming but I am not that pro yet and will get there one day. But to be at UFO for the other two categories was major for my use
Capturing Perfection Photography damn you alien now. Any more plans?
@@naegleriafowleri1715 outside of overclocking and trying to find better cooling somehow no other plans unless a better GPU that can fit comes a long and then I'll also upgrade to the 500w power supply. I hope someone here finds some awesome cooling options as that's what I want to find before I OC.
Capturing Perfection Photography why not just get rid of the motherboard and psu and transfer everything to a new case?
What kind of gpu would I be able to put In here?
Where can I find a 400 Watt Power Supply, or even a 500 Watt Power Supply that looks exactly like the one in this video? I want to upgrade the power supply in my own HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop that looks exactly like this one, as mine has only 310 watts in it, and I want to see if I can upgrade to a Geforce GTX 1060 6 GBs.
I searched everywhere and couldn't find anyone who actually upgraded the power supply. Wish I had a better answer for you. According to a review on best buy, the power supply dimensions are 2.8125 x 2.9375 x 6.25 inches. The official line from HP is "This model uses a standard 12V PSU. Make sure it has two 4 pin connectors. It is not a custom PSU. HP does not maintain a database of compatible third party products."
@@accessrandom is a bronze 400 something psu, it doesn't have to be upgraded, many people buy too much psu power for nothing and don't really need it, this psu is enough for all the components it has
@@naegleriafowleri76 If you want to Upgrade the GPU, with say a 1080/1070 or mini you would probably want to upgrade the PSU, just to be safe
SBCurley is it even possible to put a 1080 in this system lol
@@jus_ttkrl I upgraded the ram to 16gigs and this box runs PubG and battlefield V (5) in highest ultra setting. smooth as butter, why bother upgrading. Just add the RAM first.
The only thing is heating will be an issue once it's out of warranty. The GPU runs a solid 86C when playing PubG for half hour not more.
Processor is upgradeable to Ryzen 2700. Ryzen processors with an X at the end are not supported.
Thats all fine and dandy except that processor is like $250 right now which is half the cost of what i paid for this pc 😂
Be careful of heat...the 2400G already gets way too hot
@@terryparrott9426 could re-application of thermal paste help w\that? I haven't taken off the fan to see how it looks
Custom motherboard, hope that never breaks.
Can you upgrade the power supply ?
There is some conflicting information out there - a reviewer at the best buy site is adamant that it's a non-standard PSU, while HP (who has an official presence there) says that it's a standard SFF. I'll need to revisit the power supply in the future as I didn't take a close look at it when I opened it up.
access random ok thanks for the response
access random and for the graphic card in my computer there is more space than you (im french so dont be rude with my english)
access random and I have thé project to upgrade to a gtx 1050ti and continue your great job
Pas de problème, let me know how the upgrade to the 1050ti goes.
I have the same computer but I want to upgrade it, would I be able to get a new case mother board and power supply and use the other parts? Thanks!
Yes, the other parts are all standard - the CPU, graphics card, memory, M.2 SSD, and hard drive. If you plan to move the CPU, make sure to get a CPU fan since the existing fan won't be transferrable. The DVD drive is a slim-type, so you may need an adapter to fit it in any 5.25" bays.
@@accessrandom thank you so much!!!
Hey so i was trying to put an SSD in the machine, and I noticed that with the power cord, it has two ends and then has the bigger end. it’s difficult to explain. but I can’t figure out where this end goes
Do you mean the connector that I'm holding at the 5:13 mark? If so, there's two connectors there (the same size) on the same cable - one goes to the hard drive, and the other would go to your SSD.
access random Thanks for your help, but a best buy employee told me that i would have to sauter a sata power cable to the psu. I just returned the ssd and got a 2tb external hdd. It works great
Cool, thanks for the update.
Priority upgrades -
RAM, Get at least 2x8 2666mhz (The fastest this mobo can support unfortunately)
SATA or M2 SSD Drive. Make that your boot drive. I went with a PCI-E 4.0 backwards compatible m2 drive to use in future builds. Mind you this mobo only supports 2 of the 4 PCI lanes the m2 drive could utilize, so your M2 drive will be running a lot slower then it could. Its probably still faster then a SATA SSD though. Either of them is a HUGE upgrade over the crappy HDD. I had to unplug the hard disk when putting windows on the new drive for it to boot properly, then I was able to set the HDD up as a secondary large storage.
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Those will be your most important and easiest upgrades out of the box. Next will be a CPU or GPU if you want to keep going. Read the description to see what others have gotten away with. You only have about 10 inches of clearance and not a lot of power to spare. My unit had a 400w PSU. This limits our choices. So I went with a RTX 2060 super, figuring the GFX card will come to whatever future machine I build.
The CPU is also tricky. This motherboard does not support the X version of the ryzen chips. Because of power limitations and motherboard limitations, realistically your best options are a R5-2600 or a R7-2700. You could also look into 1000 series chips if you would like but those arent all supported either. Since this motherboard cannot overclock, I went with an R5-2600 for its higher base clock speed and comparable performance in games. You could potentially get a nice deal on a CPU right now as 3000 series Ryzens are doing well and folks will want to get rid of their old ones. Sadly we cannot use those new 3000 series CPUs. *But worry not!*
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If a new SSD and RAM upgrade are phase 1, and a new GFX card and CPU are phase 2, and you've come this far and still are considering the future of your invested machine, then consider phase 3: A new case, motherboard, and power supply. I would go with a newest chipset that can still support your Ryzen 2000 series CPU if you can. Like perhaps the x570 later this year or next year when prices have come down a bit. A new motherboard will give us a lot of improvements and features over HP's proprietary customized junk. More slots for RAM, expansion, potentially more ports, incorporated cooling, THE ABILITY TO NOW OVERCLOCK OUR CPU FREELY. A new Power Supply to facilitate this new case and board will also mean being able to support a whole bunch of expansions and devices and overclock that graphics card without fear of overdrawing from HP's weak 300-400w PSU You may also want to buy faster 3000mhz DDR4RAM at this point to replace our old 2666 mhz RAM. Better RAM speed/timing will get you bigger yields over marginal OCs in many cases with Ryzen CPUs.
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If you've gotten to or past phase 3 and have moved all your expensive components to a new case/board, did your overclocking, or decided its not for you, and are ready to embrace the future...Well, you're pretty free at this point. You could buy a 4000 series Ryzen (5000 series?). You could buy a RTX 3080ti or 3660ti or whatever is relevant at the time. Better coolers for more overclock tinkering.
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*tl;dr* 4 phase upgrade plan to turn our dinky prebuilt storebought mass produced PC into an unbeatable titan of the future.
Thanks for the awesome, detailed upgrade plan. Do you mind if I append it to my pinned comment with credit to you?
What motherboard will fit?
@@accessrandom I don't mind at all!
@@sethrandir If you've done every other upgrade you can, then you would shop for a motherboard, case, and power supply together.
Getting your parts out of HP's shoebox case will expand your options dramatically for future upgrades.
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So you can shop for any motherboard as long as:
-It fits the case you are shopping for
-It can fit whatever drives, GFX card, and other upgrades you may have put into your HP machine
-It can fit whatever you think you might want to acquire down the line (networking/USB expansion, cooling systems, more drives, bigger GFX card)
-(Of course make sure the case and power supply your looking at can potentially support all this too!)
-Any other built-in features you might want - built in wifi, what sort of ports are available, etc.
-AM4 CPU Support - While AMD is technically letting some B450 motherboards update BIOS to support new 4000 series Ryzen processors, it will involve taking away support from older Ryzen CPUs (entirely optional). If you're savvy with BIOS this is an option. I would rather not fuss with it. Some viewers have 1000 series Ryzens and some have 2000 series. Some have integrated graphics on their processors. For this I can't tell you what motherboard or what chipset you should look into getting. I was considering an x570 board to accompany the Ryzen 5 2600 I'm replacing the stock CPU with, because x570 supports 2000 series Ryzen CPUs, *and* the upcoming 4000 series Ryzens. I wouldn't have to mess with updating BIOS. This gives my CPU an upgrade path to go into the future with, as well as the added bonus of actually letting the Ryzen 2600 be overclocked on the new board (unlike HP's) until then.
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Not a bad deal at all. Sadly x570 boards run a little more expensive right now. And new releases always have some uncertainty. That is why this is a final upgrade step. Its something to keep on your radar while you shop for other parts of your PC, but not something to actively look for for another year or so, unless an amazing deal falls out of the sky.
Thank you, and done! I've appended it to the pinned comment (I actually ran into a character limit in the description so I couldn't add it there).
THANK YOU SO MUCH, YOUR A GOD SENT!
I got this same model from wal-Mart lol just to dip my feet in the PC world and I love it will never go back to console how ever it could b a lil faster witch I’ll prob do soon it’s a grate PC for anyone just getting into PC gaming iv even done a bit of streaming off it and it’s really good for the money u payed
What FPS do you get playing fortnite?
@@DAMDAM333_ was pretty round good 100 120(internet not the best) now my sound wont work in my head set idk what happen only on the one game fortnite
@@blueberrycrush5420 it's probably a glitch from the game thanks for responding!
@@DAMDAM333_ yea n.p
This video helped me install a new hard drive into mine, was pretty straight forward, thanks!
You're welcome, and thank you 👍🙏
Azunyan best girl
@@pandrific3469 respect ✊
I have one of these, its a HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop 690-0028b. Got it from Arron's years back. Funny part about it, no graphics card, no SSD, no nothing. Over a thousand dollars for a metal box and some flashing lights.
Lol!
quality vid, i just upgraded my 0020, it's the one released earlier that year and actually has integrated graphics capable.. it's lacking the nvme ssd, i upgraded with an old regular ssd.. and yes, you'll need a bracket, except what i did was simply switch the hdd to the other side of the cage.. and then above the disc player, there's screw holes to mount an ssd directly.. again, thanks for the vid.. the only thing is the plastic giftcard did not work for me LoL! use a paperclip to press the extra button inside the front pinhole, and pry the disk cover off by hand 😂 🤣
Thank you! This will be very helpful for others (esp. the tip about the DVD/CD player).
How did you get the ssd to work, I tried the same thing, but the computer won't let me boot from an sd card or a usb stick, so how did you do it please?
@@chriscuddy633 maybe push Esc a bunch of times on start up, and go into bios and make sure the boot device is usb and not the hard drives
anyone found an 8gb rx580 to fit in this case?
Also, is the power supply of 400W enough to run said 8GB rx580?
My hp pavilion 690-00xx has an rx 580 8gb not sure about power supply though
Great video keep it up
Thanks, appreciate it.
Thank you for this video, it really helped in finding and installing some new memory!
You're welcome - glad you found the video helpful 👍
Successfully upgraded the GPU from a 4 GB RX 580 to an 8 GB Sapphire Pulse RX 6600 using a 6-to-8 pin adapter. I had to removed the black GPU bracket attached to the black drive cage. It was held in place with just one screw and then I pushed on the tabs on the other side to remove it. I also moved my HDD to the bottom of the case for better airflow and my boot SSD I have just resting on the bottom of the case. I already upgraded the CPU a couple years ago to a Ryzen 5 2600 and the RAM to 2 sticks of 8 GB, 16 GB total. With the disk drive removed, my idle CPU temp is around 55 degrees now. If anyone has any suggestions on covering the disk drive slot with some kind of dust protection, please let me know.
Just purchased this PC for $549! Along with hp 25x monitor for $219 !
Nice! 👍
Same here lol now the price is back to around $800
@@TehUltimateSnake I returned this model and got the ryzen7 2700 16gb 128ssd 1tb HDD rx580 model for $699!
@@TheEgb18c im getting that same one with the 2700 but its like 1000 bucks :( whered you buy it or was it on sale?
@@jgarcom8 Best buy ! In January there was a sale
I have the 690-0010 and i successfully upgraded to an RTX 2060 mini and also upgraded my PSU to a 500w,i will probably do a video one day.
Please do! You are the first to report a successful power supply upgrade.👍
Yes please do it bru
@@royeah8419 already did
@@pegr i dont own that pc anymore
Did you do that upgrade with the original mobo?
Damn, I just found out I have a 1050 and thought had a rx 580 lol
AXD 210 Lol I have one with the RX 580, my only gripe is that with some games I get a blank black screen for a couple of seconds every now and then. I would assume the gpu isn’t getting enough power is why it happens, but I’m going to buy a new case, motherboard and bigger power supply and possibly cpu cooler to see if the extra air flow and power will help with it.
John Lee how’d it turn out ?
John Lee yeah how’d it turn out? Mine is doing the same thing.. I also suspect the power supply. My screen won’t turn on at all now. I’ve seen some videos about cleaning the ram so I’ll try that tomorrow.
Can you take everything out and put it in a bigger case for more upgradeability?
One caveat is that the pins for the power connector on the motherboard and the power supply are non-standard, so they would need to be moved together. All the other components (graphics card, memory, M.2 SSD, and hard drive) are standard, and the DVD drive is the thin type so you may need an adapter to place it in a 5.25" bay.
Unfortunately, I didn't check the mounting holes for the motherboard while I was inside, so I'm not sure if they are standard spacings. Has anyone else tried this? I checked the screwholes of the power supply, and they are roughly 3 3/8" apart at the top and about 3/8" along the bottom of the PSU.
@@accessrandom tbh I didn't realy understand this lol. And I haven't seen anyone do this i was just wondering if it was possible.
@@toma3620 Oh, sorry. I think others have done this but they have usually replaced the motherboard and power supply (while moving everything else over).
@@accessrandom Thanks!
how would you get electrocuted if it is not powered when while you upgrade it?
Are you referring to the ESD strap? That is to protect against electrostatic discharge, not electrocution.
Mine is the same Except it has an Nvidia GeForce GTX1050 with AMD Ryzen 5 2400 Vega. So basically the same except mine has an Nvidia Graphics card which is crazy. Nvidia and AMD in one PC? Like they made it like that. It's great...really is.
Would a 1660ti be compatible with this? I know there are other variations with Nvidia cards
@@benmarsico9403 yes, power consumption could potentially be the only issue. But modern cards such as the 1660 use more or less than the rx580. You should be good!
How much did it cost to add on
@@primeshowinc it didn't. I bought the HP pavilion Gaming Desktop with that already inside of it brand new. HP makes different kinds with different specs
Can u upgrade to gtx 1060 or gtx 1070 plz answer me back
I replaced the boot SSD on mine with a 250GB SanDisk Ultra 3D SSD
Thanks for the info. Was this an additional drive or did it replace the existing HDD?
@@accessrandom The existing SSD
How did you go about reinstalling the OS? Fresh install of windows without the other stuff HP puts on, or just recover it?
I cloned the drive.
I got the one with the Ryzen 7 2700 and 16gb of ram and I absolutely love it. The only real difference between this one and mine is more ram and a Ryzen 7 2700 which btw is a really good processor.
Agreed. If you got them at holiday pricing, these HPs are/were a great deal.
@@accessrandom I think that I paid $800 for mine, the actual price was $1050 but it was a weeked sale at Best Buy and mine is the 690-0034
@@accessrandom your video helped me a lot, please keep it up so that I can reference it later. I have it saved in my videos. The 690-0024 is the exact same aside from the processor and the extra ram.
I probably got mine at the same time. What type of videos would you like to see? My holiday spending is a bit depleted so it may be a while before I upgrade anything ;)
and those are about the only 2 things that can be upgraded lol
Can you swap the processor with anything with an AM4 cable? I was wondering if I could get something like the Ryzen 7 3800XT but idk if that might mess something up or what.
I’d be surprised if anyone commented on this because this video was a year ago and I just found it
Also do I have to get a new cooler for it or can I keep the stock one
According to HP's specifications website, I'm afraid the 690-0024 will only go up to a Ryzen 7 2700 (so it wouldn't support the third generation Ryzens). With a supported CPU, you can either use the existing fan or you will need one that fits an Intel CPU. Curiously, the motherboard is drilled for an Intel fan, even though the CPU is a Ryzen!
Can i put a xfx rx 580 in there and if not can i change the case
XFX reccommends a 550W power supply (minimum is 500W), so based solely on the power requirements you'd need to upgrade the PSU. In addition, I'm not sure if it would physically fit.
You can change the case, but I'm afraid you'd probably need to replace the motherboard also if you plan to upgrade the PSU (to handle the XFX). The PSU appears to be non-standard, so both the motherboard and PSU would need to be replaced.
great post , HP motherboards don't support anything lol, new motherboard that fits that CPU and you are set, even if it means reinstalling a new copy of windows 10
Yeah, the more I work with this motherboard the more I see its limitations (and downright weird compatibility issues).
Success upgrade with mom. RAM ADDED 16GB SAMSUNG 2666 MHZ DUAL CHANNEL.
Awesome - thank you. Do you mind if I add this to the description with credit to you? Just to make sure - you added two sticks for a total of 32 GB?
Only one.
Very good video, but these PC's are throw aways, HP doesn't allow upgrades, mainly because of how the storage partition is, so flashing the BIOS doesn't help. It's only set up to accept what's in it. Unfortunately changing it will cause the PC to be erratic or not work at all. Even more memory modules are finicky. Also you can NOT replace the 400w PSU in this, so hardcore gaming is out of the question unless you want to fry the pc. It also uses an HP motherboard, which wouldn't even cost about $30. So everything is cheap. The one they are "attempting" to sell at walmart has a 1660TI (minimal 450w psu), with a 256gb SSD and an I5 9400F for $579. Sounds like a good deal, but read the horrid reviews these PC's get. Some don't even get ANY 4 or 5 star reviews. They are THAT bad. Hope this helps!
Thanks - after having played with it for a year now, I agree. Other than certain memory modules with very exact specifications, the addition of another hard drive or SSD, and possible upgrades of the video card (within the power requirements), it's a challenge to upgrade this model. You can see some of the limitations and testimonials of certain commenters in the description - especially Terry Parrot's.
@@accessrandom yeah it's really disappointing because I really wanted to get that model with the 1660 TI, and you know the engineers at HP had to know that card requires at least 500 watts. But oh well there are a lot of good companies out there :-). Also it's good to see that yours is lasting at least, lots of complaints that I've seen the computer doesn't even last a few days or weeks.
Jeremy Freeman i also considered getting that model, as i saw it on Walmarte Black Friday ad. You’re absolutely right about all of that. I already sold mine (amd variant) and bought a dell machine. Didnt have the 1660ti but at least it won’t overheat itself
Hello , I’ve been trying to take the graphics card out but I’m not able to, do u know how ??
At the very bottom of the graphics card where the card meets the slot on the motherboard, there should be a small plastic sideways lever on the slot that locks the card in place. You'll need to lift that lever to take the card out.
Hey thanks for answering , I found that out myself a couple of hours ago , another question , I did some over clocking and my pc now won’t boot , I tried resetting cmos and using the jumper but none of that works , do u have a solution?
@@chikenkillz5666 Is this for the HP Pavilion? I don't think there are any settings in the BIOS to allow overclocking.
If this is for another PC, which component(s) did you overclock (CPU? GPU? memory?), and how high did you try to go?
Are all HP Pavillion PCs about the same size? The one I want has a GTX 1650 super. I was wondering if that would probably fit RTX graphics cards for if I wanted to upgrade later on? Maybe a RTX 3060ti or 2060 depending on what is available.
All of the cases in the 690 family are the same size - but other lines look to be different (like the 790 series). All of the ones referenced in the description and pinned comment are in the 690 family. Others like the TG series are different.
I have the same computer but a 580 and ryzen 5 if I get an ryzen 7 2700 do I have to get different mother board?
I don't think the socket are the same
Do you mean that you have the same 690-0024 Pavilion model with the Radeon RX 580 and the Ryzen 5 2400G? If so, according to HP's specs, the motherboard will support an upgrade to a Ryzen 7 2700.
access random yes I do
access random thank you!
I just got the Ryzen 7 and it fits but the fan doesn’t have anything to latch on to
Would i need to buy a Sata Cable or a Motherboard Connecter?
For the SATA data cable, yes - you would need to buy one as it isn't included.
where could i search to replace the front bezel of the pc
The best place would probably be the HP parts store (where you can enter 690-0024 or your specific model number).
@@accessrandom thank you
Hi , I apologize in advance for my poor English. I own the HP Pavilion 690-0018nf version, it's the same, but with an i7-8700 and a 1050ti 4g and model H370 E motherboard. I will soon put a RTX 2060 super mini 8g and 32g of ram. However I can not find a power supply of 500 or 600 w compatible, can you help me?
Unfortunately, I've had very few reports on successful third-party PSU upgrades (as seen in the description in the Power Supply section). There seems to be some evidence that the power supply is not standard.
It looks like the 690-0018nf uses a Lincs motherboard, and a 310W power supply with a part number of L64961-800 - I think. The HP Parts Store doesn't list the 690-0018nf explicitly, but there are other variations of the 690-0018 listed. If you want to upgrade to an HP part, I would contact HP and ask for the part number to a larger PSU.
@@accessrandom hey, I found a similar model (not the same motherboard) HP Pavilion 690-0029 with a 400w PSU the most powerful I found with pc product number : 3LB27AA for HP store. This is the: Power Supply - GNRC PSU 400W SFF Entl FR with this number L04618-800. However it does not correspond to my request of minimum 500w or 600w. Do you think that a PSU of another brand (be quiet! Corsair, EVGA) would be compatible?
To be honest, I am not sure. I have read elsewhere that the power supply is not pin-compatible with standard PSUs, but I have not had first-hand experience upgrading it. I'll need to ask my viewers and subscribers if they have had any luck - anyone?
@@accessrandom So if I want to change PSU I need to change the motherboard and therefore change the pc case ?! omg haha
Yeah, I know - I wish I had a better answer. Shame on HP for using such non-standard parts. Even the motherboard (in the 690-0024) is non-standard in that the CPU fan mounting points on the motherboard is for Intel, even though the CPU is a Ryzen (!).
If i would add a SSD to the sata port, what adpater do i need? You said "You may need an adapter to mount it" which one are you talking about? Also - What do i use to mount it? Thanks for all the help on this video, had this desktop for over a year and have been upgrading it ever since.. Still new to computers
By the adapter, I simply mean some type of container that has the correct mounting holes so that it lines up with the holes on the cage. Personally, I used velcro to mount it because I wasn't able to find one.
access random alright thanks!
also, wont i need a a power cable from the power supply to connect to the ssd..? Do u know how many are on the power supply/ how many are available
Sure, there's a power cable right on the cage next to the square vents, as seen at the 5:12 mark.
HELP. can I change the case?I mean I want to buy a mid tower to put everything cleaner but I see that this motherboard has a few usb on the front. can i change it?
If you move to a new case, you would need to move both the motherboard and power supply at the same time (since they're both non-standard and are matched to each other). The only thing I'm unsure about is the mounting holes on the motherboard - it is such a non-standard board I don't know if the mounting spacings are standard. All the other components (memory, M.2 SSD, graphics card, hard drive) are standard, except for the slim DVD drive which needs some adapter to make it fit in a 3.5" bay. Like you mentioned, you'd also lose the front panel ports
any ideas for a new cooler for the cpu and a replacement intake fan?
I don't have any personal recommendations, but other commenters have used the Arctic Freezer 12 (caveat: you will need to remove the internal cage to make the fan fit), and a 92 mm be quiet! fan for the case (you can see their comments and the extensive write-ups for the Freezer 12 in the pinned comment).
@@accessrandom use the be quiet fan in place of the one they give you?
@@dynamitedom767 Yes, this would be to replace the existing one.
in addition to a new 3.5'' HDD and SATA cable. what else is needed to mount the drive to the case? The stock one seems to be inside a drawer of some kind
looks like maybe you could mount another fan on the bottom of the black tray where the hdd sits?
actually not a bad idea for people who sit this unit on its side instead of vertical, because that would stir up the air above the chipset heatsink 😅
Will a rtx 2060 single fan black edition fit in there?
It looks like it is short enough to fit lengthwise - in the worst case scenario, you can remove the bracket (with the QR code) as seen at the 3:24 mark. The only concern I have is the power requirements - keep in mind that the RX 580 has a 6-pin power connector, while the RTX 2060 has an 8-pin.
@@accessrandom thanks do you think it will work even if it is 8 pin because the rx 550 sucsk and the 2060 ti is decent for fortnite so just wondering thanks again for the info
I haven't tried this myself, but you should be able to use a 6-pin to 8-pin adapter for the power. The 6-pin carries 75W and the 8-pin is 150W, but the RTX 2060 and RX 580 power requirements are roughly the same.
Would a rtx 2060 with 4.4 x 2.2 x 7.5 inches dimensions fit? I’m looking to upgrade it but don’t know if I need a bigger case. Thansk
I'm not sure at the moment, but what I can do is measure the spacing and the card the next time I'm inside the computer.
I have an hp pavilion and when I turn it on it keeps turning off and on off and on. I looked inside and I seen a cable witch said P4 on it. And it was not plugged. So I was wondering if you can help me out
Plz get back asap
Can you provide a timestamp in the video where you see a P4 cable and describe it more detail (color coding, etc.)?
Probably the best upgrade video ever lol thanks man and thanks for the description very helpfuk
You're welcome, and thank you 🙏👍
Should I were one 9f those wrist straps that prevents electronic shock if I'm upgrading ram and I've never turned on the pc
Yes, I recommend an ESD strap. You can do it without a strap and you could simply touch the metal part of the case, but you would need to maintain contact with it while you're upgrading the memory.
also...make sure you unplug the computer before you open it up...every time...long story!
I can't get the CD drive cover to pop off using a credit card as shown - any tips?
Would you open the newer version of this pc where it has nvidia gtz 1660 and intel i5 9th gen. I got mine and i wana use displayport on grafik card but i dont know how to open it up
Are you referring to the 690-0073w by any chance? The HP Pavilion 690 family should have the same mechanism to open the case. From looking at other videos, it looks like the graphics card has one DisplayPort on it.
So I took it apart and after putting it back together, the pc no longer reads the hard drive, the cables seem to be in the right order, I may have switched the p3 and p4 cables but unlikely they seem to be length to prevent that, any thoughts on what I might have done?
Make sure that both the data and power cables are securely attached on both sides: the drive and motherboard. Does it show any error messages when you boot, or is it just a blank screen?
So I’m planning on putting it In a new case with more space and 6 fans for better airflow and I have upgraded the ram what should I upgrade after that I was thinking a new graphics card
Sure, a graphics card is a good upgrade (I've been keeping a list of successful upgrades in the "Graphics" section of the description). If you're keeping the motherboard and power supply, just make sure you don't go beyond the power requirements of the 400W PSU.
access random I won’t or I’ll just upgrade to 750w PSU when I find one I like
Ok so I have upgrade psu to 500w, added a rtx 2060 phoenix GPU and 16gb vengeance. But now I want to add a western digital blue 500gb or 1tb Sata III ssd 2.5” do I need any special cable or mountain bracket or is everything already in the pc ready to be installed? Thanks for your help! 🙏🏽🤙🏽
You'll need a SATA data cable to connect to the light blue SATA port on the motherboard at the 5:11 mark. You can then use the spare SATA power connector at the 5:14 mark to power the SSD. To physically mount it, you might be able to find a hole or two on the cage to match the SSD hole pattern, but I just used some velcro to secure it.
@@accessrandom thanks again!! I just got the cable and drive also got the ryzen 5 2600 so I will be upgrading that also when it arrives!! So the PC will be R5 2600, RTX 2060 phoenix, 500w psu, 16gb venegeance, extra 1tb ssd sata iii! All this was done with your help and video! I’m subscribing!! 🙌🤙🏽
@@TheTattoedVRpilot You're welcome, and thank you 🙏 Very happy to have you here. If you have the model numbers of the 2060, PSU, RAM and SSD, I can add them to the description/pinned comment if you like.
@@accessrandom absolutely! With all the help you provided I would be more than happy to try my best and help others! It has become a very capable Vr pc now! All with your help! Here is my list of added components.
Ph-RTX2060-6G : rtx 2060 phoenix gpu
WDS100T2B0A : 1tb western digital blue ssd 2.5”
CMK16GX4M2A2666C16R : 16gb red vengeance lpx ram
L05857-800 : 500w psu from the HP website
YD2600BBAFBOX : Ryzen 5 2600 cpu with wraith cooler
I have a HP Pavilion Gaming 790-0000nl and I noticed that the panel where the hard drive is located is not the same and the screws are different. Do you have a video which explains how to upgrade that particular computer? I would like to add a SSD but I struggle understanding how to properly open the PC. if you have any useful information let me know.
From the information that i could find online, this is a model specific for the Dutch market but the case seems to be the same as the 690-0024. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any information about the internals so I hope one of my viewers has had experience with it. Anyone?
I upgraded my cpu to the R5 1600. Only $80 at Microcenter. Had to keep the stock cooler though. When changing the cpu, I noticed that HP did a terrible job of applying the thermal paste, it was all over the place and uneven. After changing the cpu, cleaning off and reapplying Artic MX4 thermal paste, the temps were much better. Though temps will never be great given the poor airflow of the case. Also added another 8gb of Gskill Aegis 2666 Ram. Works great.
Good find about the thermal paste. Do you mind if I add that to the description with credit to you? Also - do you have the model number of the RAM?
@@accessrandom Sure no problem. Gskill F4-2666C19S-8GIS
Thanks! I've added your comments - I had to abridge it a little bit because I'm coming up against TH-cam's 5000 character limit, but I've captured the main ideas.