I agree with Hoosier Hardware that HP's decisions to make everything on this system so proprietary have rendered it not worth upgrading. Sadly, I went this route a couple years ago because it was the PC that I could afford and I thought it would be a good foundation for a future upgrade. I'll list all the details of what I did below, so you don't have to... Or, at least, know what you're in for if you want to upgrade one of these systems. If I had to do it over again, I would just build a new PC at this point. During Best Buy's Black Friday sale in 2019, I picked up an HP TP01-0034 (Intel Core i7-8700 with a 256 SSD) for $479. I planned to upgrade the video card, but sat on the sidelines until the crypto craze came to an end and GPU prices came down to 'normal' levels. At that point, I knew the 180W PSU wouldn't drive any of the relatively current GPUs. So, I scoured the internet and found there are two (proprietary) HP PSUs that could be bought for inflated prices when compared to standard PSUs. The options are the 400W PSU (L04618-800) and the 500W PSU (L05757-800). Both can be ordered from HP at partsurfer.hp.com or from other resellers. I went with the 500W PSU (~$150 shipped vs $105 shipped for the 400W PSU). Installation of the PSU was plug and play. Next up was the video card. I ordered a GIGABYTE Eagle OC GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB as it is a 'shorter' length card with only 2 fans. The card barely fits in the case. However, HP's absurd board design places one of the two 4-pin power supply cables for the motherboard nearly directly in line with the video card. When both are plugged in, the plug obstructs the video card from fitting straight in the slot and pushes the card on an angle that I was not comfortable with leaving that way. I ended up de-pinning the plug and cutting down the plastic connector to no longer come in contact with the video card housing. I re-pinned the cable and wrapped the wires (separately and then together) with electrical tape to keep them directed away from the GPU. WARNING: If you are not knowledgeable with working with electronics that store electricity, do not try de-pinning a PSU. The case now has the needed power and a more current GPU. It runs current games smoothly and with good frame rates; however, this highlighted the next problem with this PC. Airflow. It has none. That is a requirement with modern GPUs. They need good airflow. This case doesn't have it. And, as other's have commented about HP's production of e-waste, this is another example; this PC's motherboard only has a single fan header and no place to mount a second case fan. At this point, I'm either going to get creative with the case and find a way to retrofit the case to support a 2 fan setup that run off of a single 3 pin fan header (and free up the air intake) or I'm just going to build a new system and carry over the components that are worth keeping. If you have one of these systems and are thinking of upgrading it, you now have more information of what will be involved. Good luck and happy gaming!
I got a hp pavilion TP01-2000na I just wanted to make it be able to play a few games, nothing bang up to date, just maybe some of my 360 era titles in better quality and higher fps, would somthing like a gtx 960 or gtx 1060 (i dont think they require power supply) with some added RAM be plug and play ?
@Cal McAuley Both of those look to be drawing 120W max, which I wouldn't think leaves enough power for the rest of the system. You might get equal performance from a more modern card that has a lower power draw.
Gotta remember these weren't made as gaming systems but home desktop systems. I picked up the i5 11400 variant and it's pretty nice to use as a normal workstation. Sure they're upgradable but most end users won't ever perform an upgrade. At most I see end users upgrade to dual channel ram instead of the single channel they ship with.
There really is no excuse for their anti consumer business practices. They contribute to pigeon holed hardware replacement to hp or equally overpriced 3rd party resellers as well as increased E-waste. I usually dodge hp because of these practices, but there was the hp tp01 1023w on clearance at Walmart for $249. I snagged it with expectations to make a plex server or gift it to my nephew to game on. Of coarse my nephew wanted and received it. It was no issue slapping his pcie powered 1050 ti into it, but because of hp proprietary shenanigans he is pretty much topped out. I plan to gift him my 1070 ti, but now I have to find an adapter to use with an aftermarket PSU for my old GPU.
Somebody who only needs a general purpose computer would save money and get a better build quality if they got a used core i series system or even core 2 quad system. But yeah I understand most wouldn’t know how to perform upgrades to those systems either. You save a lot of money being a computer geek 😅
Hey man! I wanted to replace the psu on this pc and idk what psu to choose can you help me choose one out? Idk if you are gonna see this but if you do please reply to this😀
Can you recommend a great desk top Home computer tower with 16gb of ram and lots of ssd storage space that would allow for future soft ware updates like windows 12 13 14 ..... thanks.
Many years from now when it becomes a budget used desktop, I can see gamers adding a secondary PSU using a “add2psu” adapter. Not exactly the safest thing sure but it could work, especially in a bigger case
You can get an atx adapter for these now for like 10 bucks. Also my opinion is they just wanted to be cheap. Strip down all the extra bells and whistles from a normal motherboard and power supply and they save some money on both. They have engineers who would do that to justify their existence.
I have this exact pc and I just bought a Corsair 750 ps for my newly bought rx6600 and I think ur right that the weird multi color cable is not gonna work with my new ps. Anyone know how to help cuz I waited a week with no pc for this
I think it might be? A PC like this for cheap would be okay, you would want at least 16gb of ram, luckily ram is normally the easiest to upgrade for example... A system that costs $500 for 8gb of ram vs one that is $750 for $16gb, for like $30-$80 you can get 2x8gb of ram or if you are lucky and already have a single 1x8gb stick of ram installed, just get a cheap 2nd stick and throw it in and boom, you have a an awesome mid level PC that can do a little bit of everything. Music production software loves eating your ram lol
@brianeno608 I got a Used Razerblade i7 it's pretty good for music production however it's broken, its battery is dead and nobody will fix it, the only way is for Me to fix it by buying a new battery and installing it. The previous owner said He already changed the battery but that one didn't work either but I think now that what He really did was harvet parts out of it before selling it. Its camera got broken and don't work and I cant think what possible scenario would happen where the camera can stop working. Anyway I was aware of the issues and that is why I payed £300 for it when a fully functioning one RRP is £2500.
Search l04618-800 and choose encompass computers for the 400 watt power supply for this unit. Its about $80.00. This is the HP location to purchase. People will scalp everything. They make me sick. I need one myself, but dont want to spend the 80 + shipping. I have the i3 8100 version. Oh btw, how is Fort Wayne?
Buy a sfx psu, the 4pins plugs are 2x 4pins cpu. Jump the green and black cable on the ATX 24pins cable. For the proprietary plug leave it disconnected. My psu screwed only 2 of the 4 screws and I might have to drill holes under the case for airflow.
The screw pattern is wrong for over the counter motherboards, the in out in front is soldered to the motherboard. Nothing is useful again but the memory, storeage and the Ram.
Buddy, I have a few questions, you mentioned that it comes with an Unbalanced Pair of Memory Sticks. You didn't mention if this affects Dual Channel Memory Performance? I assume a must upgrade is to replace one of the memory sticks to 4/4 or 8/8 and make it balanced and that will improve memory performance? Just for fun can you actually test to see if it really truly 'boots' with a no6pin video card? Never assume. Maybe the HP motherboard bios has something that prevents booting. We need to know if it boots fine with an RX560 and a 1050ti. Is it plug n play? Its not a gaming pc so its kinda normal for Dell and HP and Lenovo to cripple the motherboard. I assume tho that with time the aftermarket community in ASIA will create the Power Supply Adapters necessary for the motherboard but then you will still need a Wheel Cutter to cut out the back of the case abit. The integrated graphics on that cpu is pretty decent its not too far behind a 1030. Passmark shows 2128, wheras a 1030 passmark score is 2620. Which should be more than enough for Indies Games and GOG Games. Of course please take into account thats raw performance. The 1030 will pull ahead even more because of its 2gb of ddr5 plus if the game is optimized for invidia drivers than you get a boost there as well. I just checked Microcenter, Westmont IL Theres over 25 brand new gt1030 ddr5 2gb in stock for $105 plus tax Pickup the pavilion, pickup a replacement ram stick, and pickup a 1030 and that should hold u over for a good long while. Dont assume video cards are coming back anytime soon. They mite never ever come back. Thanks for the video buddy.
My Best friend mom wanted a computer for Home work, no gaming and I picked out this HP but with the Ryzen 7 5600G and 15Gigs Ram. She loves it and i was happy about picking out this one until i watched some videos on it. Now I'm a little sad I didnt know it was proprietary
Here's how you do it you use one extra power supply and a stock one That's how you do it then there's a green while that you just ran awhile from one power supply to the other power supply
I wonder how it would do with RX 6400 or a low profile RTX 3050 or 4060, since you can most likely replace the PSU if you jump a couple of the 24 pin connectors, probably won't even have to mess with the weird extra plug. However I think the 6400 and 3050 will run off of motherboard bus power alone, so they're probably great options. WX 4100 is also a decent upgrade if you find it at a low price. The ones I've seen come with a single 16GB stick of RAM which is kinda not great unless you're looking to upgrade to 32GB, which isn't super expensive to do, and may be a good idea. It's worth a try, never know! Might be easy to replace =) tho for the orientation of the PSU power plug, may need to cut the bottom out of the case for PSU airflow... Could get some of these pretty cheap, eventually, since most gamers will avoid them. Some of them have 5300G and 5700G CPUs which would be great for a 3050 or 4060, or whatever low profile GPUs come out next cycle!
Hey Hoosier I like this HP Case.. I found one today actually with i7 8700 and 8 gigs of DDR4. Having the 310 watt PSU probably affords me a GPU upgrade over the intel HD 630 integrated graphics. GTX 1050ti/1650 for light gaming? I'm pretty stoked on upgrading it with fast storage and GPU.
but if youre looking for a PC that can apparently deliver 4K at 60FPS video streaming and has all the latest wifi and bluetooth, has no interest in gaming and no interest in upgrading this seems perfect.
i bought an acer n50 nitro pc with a r5 3500 about 978$ cdn and it was the cheapest to get a somewhat decent gpu for my rig , put my 1050 in my son's pc to replace his 1030 i paid too much for. i also switched his R3 3100 for the R5 3500.i have put all the remaining parts in the acer pc and my youngest daughter asked me to have it ....... so, Buying prebuilt for the gpu didnt work as expected. and now my other daughter is like i want one too so i'm not out of the woods just yet lol . the acer pc also has some proprietary connectors for sata and psu, the cooler is also with screws not in standard configuration and the dvd drive( yes they still exist lol) also has some proprietary cabling pluging in a dock to slide the "laptop looking" dvd drive in. it has a 1tb hdd and the mb has a m.2 slot but i have to remove the hdd bay and the dvd drive bay since both cover the system where the m.2 slot is . i bought the original prebuilt at a nearby staples store . it seems to suffer from the same 1 8gb stick disease as mostly all prebuilt i've seen so far. now i have a all black generic gtx1650 4gb gddr5 with a big sticker saying " don't touch " on the gpu fan that even gpu-z cannot identify who built it with the lookup button lol XD. it's looks is almost like buying a chinese card knockoff from aliexpress lol
This is sad. Locking such a solid CPU in a usless mobo. I just got an older Lenovo ThinkStation S30 with a Xeon E5 1620 and 32 gb of quad channel ddr3 ram for 500 usd and have all the room and power for most mid tier GPUs. Used workstations with a GPU upgrade is the best bet most have the way computer component prices have been lately.
Lenovo, at least in the past, has had some of the most consumer friendly machines I've worked with. I haven't had my hands on any of their recent desktop machines, but I love when system builders just put together a solid system that has plenty of upgrade paths available to the end user without having to go through the original manufacturer.
@@HoosierHardware I try to not be a fan boy and do build most of my own systems but lenovo has always been a solid option for laptops and prebuilt workstations, that you can upgrade with normal after market parts. I have worked with some of the newer server stuff but that is hard to compare to more normal gaming/home systems.
I just found a used one online for just 150 euro, locally. Just checking to make sure if its worth it to perhaps re-sell or just sell all the parts loose. It still comes with a gtx 1050 ti and all that.Re-selling the cpu and gpu in my country would already make me a profit and have the rest of the parts left over ... too bad the motherboard and the psu are a bitch to transplant ...
HP has learned from Apple and HP thinks well if they're customers are dolts enough to come back after what Apple does, we can screw ours too. If customers stop buying crap they wouldn't be able to do stuff like this. But just like Apple some of it is to tie down the customer with limitations, and to save money on things like wiring. Every penny saved on a thousand machines is hundreds earned and the PC market is already incredibly thin margins.
No computer should ship with an SSD smaller than 500GB. Also a 1TB hard drive is getting a bit small for a hard drive these days..should be atleast 2TB. Computers in 2008 with hard drives shipped with more storage than half these computers with SSD’s now. What a joke.
so , If you want HP gaming pc, buy the Omen Hp series...
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this is e-waste, this should be illegal, I don't know why the US Government allow this type of product to be sold in the country, they obviously want customers to buy a new computer every 2 years, whoever have had a desktop PC for years, you know you always have to replace the power supply, it usually gets damage, sometimes I use the parts from different old pcs to build a nice desktop, now all of this parts are useless, HP should be sue for this.
Over the years I've seen lots of HP prebuilds... this one might be the grossest looking one I've seen. HP has always cheaped out on PSU and Mobo, this is pretty standard for them
never had a good experience with anything HP except the old hp tower slimelines that every school had. Laptop build quality and their desktops just suck and have dumb issues.
100% agree HP Sucks.....And the bios update from their websight has been known to screw up and totally black screen you to death ....Even if you get past that it comes back to haunt you.
Pavilions are those machines you only buy if a) It's on a murderously good sale and b) you have no intention of ever upgrading it. I bought one about five-ish or so years ago. It was an i5-8400 with 16GB of RAM, 128GB SSD and 1TB HD. But like every Pavilion, it has that gimped, non-standard 180W PSU, a proprietary motherboard and a case that can only easily use those motherboards. Outside of doubling the RAM and eventually installing Linux, I didn't touch a thing. I could edit and render 1080p video comfortably and 4K if I didn't like myself that day and didn't want to use proxy clips. Still being used today -- I passed it along to my mother. Works like a champ for what she uses it for. That said, I never recommend HP pre-builts purely because of the proprietary dead-end nature of any individual model. Pity, because they generally aren't garbage build quality...you just can't grow the machine with you. Ironically, the garbage build quality gaming PCs are actually more useful long term.
as a PC technician who sales off-lease rigs to clients, due to it being eco-friendly. I only sell HP, Dell, Lenovo rigs to users who aren't power users. So simple office use, or web browsing or Facebook kinda tasks. Since usually the off-lease rigs I offer to clients are dead end systems and usually proprietary parts inside. If a client doesn't want off-lease then I'll go to a local SI for a new build, however, in my years of dealing with clients, I've only had to sell a brand new rig like 2x. The rest I've sold to users on a budget..and they aren't gamers. I don't have any gamer clients, since for the most part gamers, work their rigs harder than a web browsing rig or media center rig. Usually also, gamers know what they are doing with their build "usually". I know there are those who are newbs in the DIY rig building space, so have to factor that also. My own rigs have been either build by my own hands, or a local SI. I haven't gone to an SI since 2008, since I like the feeling of accomplishment after building a rig :)
Hold on, there! Who said this is a gaming computer? Not Costco. Their least expensive computer listed for gaming is about $900, has 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD, 2TB HDD. I bought the HP primarily for communications, Internet access, and to use the Libreoffice Suite. Mine came with a Ryzen 5 5600g and a 2TB HDD. It’s way more than I need, but the lowest price I could find. If you want a gaming computer, buy one. Don’t try to make an office computer something it’s not intended to be.
It's a consumer pc for web and typewriter programs 😂 Not a gaming pc! So why do you complain about it? You can't take a Fiat 500 and pretend to be upgradable to a Mercedes!😢😂😊
Ah yes good old OEM crap here lads (and that's why you should buy custom prebuilds with standard parts) you can't always know what shit they've done with the design in HP or dell or whatever.
Addendum: If you MUST buy a prebuilt due to market conditions, make sure to look up teardowns to see what type of proprietary crap you'll be dealing with.
They don't want to make it upgradeable, they want to sell another computer to you.
You can get this computer about ~250 open box what do you expect?
Except, I don't want to buy another computer from HP, because they pull this shlt. So~ how are they supposed to sell me another computer? :\
I agree with Hoosier Hardware that HP's decisions to make everything on this system so proprietary have rendered it not worth upgrading.
Sadly, I went this route a couple years ago because it was the PC that I could afford and I thought it would be a good foundation for a future upgrade. I'll list all the details of what I did below, so you don't have to... Or, at least, know what you're in for if you want to upgrade one of these systems. If I had to do it over again, I would just build a new PC at this point.
During Best Buy's Black Friday sale in 2019, I picked up an HP TP01-0034 (Intel Core i7-8700 with a 256 SSD) for $479. I planned to upgrade the video card, but sat on the sidelines until the crypto craze came to an end and GPU prices came down to 'normal' levels.
At that point, I knew the 180W PSU wouldn't drive any of the relatively current GPUs. So, I scoured the internet and found there are two (proprietary) HP PSUs that could be bought for inflated prices when compared to standard PSUs. The options are the 400W PSU (L04618-800) and the 500W PSU (L05757-800). Both can be ordered from HP at partsurfer.hp.com or from other resellers. I went with the 500W PSU (~$150 shipped vs $105 shipped for the 400W PSU). Installation of the PSU was plug and play.
Next up was the video card. I ordered a GIGABYTE Eagle OC GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB as it is a 'shorter' length card with only 2 fans. The card barely fits in the case. However, HP's absurd board design places one of the two 4-pin power supply cables for the motherboard nearly directly in line with the video card. When both are plugged in, the plug obstructs the video card from fitting straight in the slot and pushes the card on an angle that I was not comfortable with leaving that way. I ended up de-pinning the plug and cutting down the plastic connector to no longer come in contact with the video card housing. I re-pinned the cable and wrapped the wires (separately and then together) with electrical tape to keep them directed away from the GPU. WARNING: If you are not knowledgeable with working with electronics that store electricity, do not try de-pinning a PSU.
The case now has the needed power and a more current GPU. It runs current games smoothly and with good frame rates; however, this highlighted the next problem with this PC. Airflow. It has none. That is a requirement with modern GPUs. They need good airflow. This case doesn't have it. And, as other's have commented about HP's production of e-waste, this is another example; this PC's motherboard only has a single fan header and no place to mount a second case fan.
At this point, I'm either going to get creative with the case and find a way to retrofit the case to support a 2 fan setup that run off of a single 3 pin fan header (and free up the air intake) or I'm just going to build a new system and carry over the components that are worth keeping.
If you have one of these systems and are thinking of upgrading it, you now have more information of what will be involved. Good luck and happy gaming!
I got a hp pavilion TP01-2000na I just wanted to make it be able to play a few games, nothing bang up to date, just maybe some of my 360 era titles in better quality and higher fps, would somthing like a gtx 960 or gtx 1060 (i dont think they require power supply) with some added RAM be plug and play ?
@Cal McAuley Both of those look to be drawing 120W max, which I wouldn't think leaves enough power for the rest of the system.
You might get equal performance from a more modern card that has a lower power draw.
@@markm.3740 how did you get the cooling down?
You should've just built a PC at that point
@@slaydog5102 Yep, it was bad money after good money on it...
Gotta remember these weren't made as gaming systems but home desktop systems. I picked up the i5 11400 variant and it's pretty nice to use as a normal workstation. Sure they're upgradable but most end users won't ever perform an upgrade. At most I see end users upgrade to dual channel ram instead of the single channel they ship with.
There really is no excuse for their anti consumer business practices. They contribute to pigeon holed hardware replacement to hp or equally overpriced 3rd party resellers as well as increased E-waste. I usually dodge hp because of these practices, but there was the hp tp01 1023w on clearance at Walmart for $249. I snagged it with expectations to make a plex server or gift it to my nephew to game on. Of coarse my nephew wanted and received it. It was no issue slapping his pcie powered 1050 ti into it, but because of hp proprietary shenanigans he is pretty much topped out. I plan to gift him my 1070 ti, but now I have to find an adapter to use with an aftermarket PSU for my old GPU.
Somebody who only needs a general purpose computer would save money and get a better build quality if they got a used core i series system or even core 2 quad system. But yeah I understand most wouldn’t know how to perform upgrades to those systems either. You save a lot of money being a computer geek 😅
Hey man! I wanted to replace the psu on this pc and idk what psu to choose can you help me choose one out? Idk if you are gonna see this but if you do please reply to this😀
Can you recommend a great desk top Home computer tower with 16gb of ram and lots of ssd storage space that would allow for future soft ware updates like windows 12 13 14 ..... thanks.
It is maddening that OEMs do this! Like Dell once you get past the 7010/9010, the newer models use proprietary Mobo connections! Why?!?!
Many years from now when it becomes a budget used desktop, I can see gamers adding a secondary PSU using a “add2psu” adapter. Not exactly the safest thing sure but it could work, especially in a bigger case
How? Is safe for gpu?
You can get an atx adapter for these now for like 10 bucks. Also my opinion is they just wanted to be cheap. Strip down all the extra bells and whistles from a normal motherboard and power supply and they save some money on both. They have engineers who would do that to justify their existence.
Can you give links of atx adapter
Amazon has both 400 and 500 watt PSUs New, I recently installed my 500 watt PSU but they are not cheap...
I have this exact pc and I just bought a Corsair 750 ps for my newly bought rx6600 and I think ur right that the weird multi color cable is not gonna work with my new ps. Anyone know how to help cuz I waited a week with no pc for this
Is a Used hp pavilion desktop 590 any good for Music production software like Reason and Abalten? I'm not interested in games.
I think it might be? A PC like this for cheap would be okay, you would want at least 16gb of ram, luckily ram is normally the easiest to upgrade for example... A system that costs $500 for 8gb of ram vs one that is $750 for $16gb, for like $30-$80 you can get 2x8gb of ram or if you are lucky and already have a single 1x8gb stick of ram installed, just get a cheap 2nd stick and throw it in and boom, you have a an awesome mid level PC that can do a little bit of everything. Music production software loves eating your ram lol
@brianeno608 I got a Used Razerblade i7 it's pretty good for music production however it's broken, its battery is dead and nobody will fix it, the only way is for Me to fix it by buying a new battery and installing it. The previous owner said He already changed the battery but that one didn't work either but I think now that what He really did was harvet parts out of it before selling it. Its camera got broken and don't work and I cant think what possible scenario would happen where the camera can stop working. Anyway I was aware of the issues and that is why I payed £300 for it when a fully functioning one RRP is £2500.
Search l04618-800 and choose encompass computers for the 400 watt power supply for this unit. Its about $80.00. This is the HP location to purchase. People will scalp everything. They make me sick. I need one myself, but dont want to spend the 80 + shipping. I have the i3 8100 version. Oh btw, how is Fort Wayne?
That's good information to have!
As always the fort keeps rolling onward!
Agreed! I picked up the 4700 variant and was disappointed to discover all the HP proprietary connections on the motherboard.
I have a GEFORCE GTX 1050ti 4gb by NVIDA card I want to install in this unit. Can I use this?
Im going to install my rtx 2080 super and a 2nd psu. Think it'll work. I have to cut the case, the main board is not easyly transferable.
I just returned mine. Thank goodness i didnt open it in the week i had it.
I have trhis PC wanted to know if i can lay it on its side?
Buy a sfx psu, the 4pins plugs are 2x 4pins cpu. Jump the green and black cable on the ATX 24pins cable. For the proprietary plug leave it disconnected. My psu screwed only 2 of the 4 screws and I might have to drill holes under the case for airflow.
I found a HP M01-F0016 with 250w, what gpu do you think I can add on this rig?
The screw pattern is wrong for over the counter motherboards, the in out in front is soldered to the motherboard. Nothing is useful again but the memory, storeage and the Ram.
Buddy, I have a few questions, you mentioned that it comes with an Unbalanced Pair of Memory Sticks.
You didn't mention if this affects Dual Channel Memory Performance?
I assume a must upgrade is to replace one of the memory sticks to 4/4 or 8/8 and make it balanced and that will improve memory performance?
Just for fun can you actually test to see if it really truly 'boots' with a no6pin video card?
Never assume. Maybe the HP motherboard bios has something that prevents booting.
We need to know if it boots fine with an RX560 and a 1050ti.
Is it plug n play?
Its not a gaming pc so its kinda normal for Dell and HP and Lenovo to cripple the motherboard.
I assume tho that with time the aftermarket community in ASIA will create the Power Supply Adapters necessary for the motherboard but then you will still need a Wheel Cutter to cut out the back of the case abit.
The integrated graphics on that cpu is pretty decent its not too far behind a 1030.
Passmark shows 2128, wheras a 1030 passmark score is 2620.
Which should be more than enough for Indies Games and GOG Games.
Of course please take into account thats raw performance.
The 1030 will pull ahead even more because of its 2gb of ddr5 plus if the game is optimized for invidia drivers than you get a boost there as well.
I just checked Microcenter, Westmont IL
Theres over 25 brand new gt1030 ddr5 2gb in stock for $105 plus tax
Pickup the pavilion, pickup a replacement ram stick, and pickup a 1030
and that should hold u over for a good long while.
Dont assume video cards are coming back anytime soon.
They mite never ever come back.
Thanks for the video buddy.
My Best friend mom wanted a computer for Home work, no gaming and I picked out this HP but with the Ryzen 7 5600G and 15Gigs Ram. She loves it and i was happy about picking out this one until i watched some videos on it. Now I'm a little sad I didnt know it was proprietary
Here's how you do it you use one extra power supply and a stock one That's how you do it then there's a green while that you just ran awhile from one power supply to the other power supply
I wonder how it would do with RX 6400 or a low profile RTX 3050 or 4060, since you can most likely replace the PSU if you jump a couple of the 24 pin connectors, probably won't even have to mess with the weird extra plug. However I think the 6400 and 3050 will run off of motherboard bus power alone, so they're probably great options. WX 4100 is also a decent upgrade if you find it at a low price. The ones I've seen come with a single 16GB stick of RAM which is kinda not great unless you're looking to upgrade to 32GB, which isn't super expensive to do, and may be a good idea.
It's worth a try, never know! Might be easy to replace =) tho for the orientation of the PSU power plug, may need to cut the bottom out of the case for PSU airflow...
Could get some of these pretty cheap, eventually, since most gamers will avoid them. Some of them have 5300G and 5700G CPUs which would be great for a 3050 or 4060, or whatever low profile GPUs come out next cycle!
Wow. This is what makes pre-builts such poor value.
Excel link with hp power supply numbers and wattage you might be able to swap with.
I own this piece of junk. DOA after exactly 3 years, Tp01-0014 Junk!
I just got one of these for free from work. im gonna take what i can and do my best
No proprietary is tfx power not atx
I just took the ryzen 5 2400g from mine and bought rog b450f for $80 and got apex going at 75-115fps 1080p nearly max setting lol
Hey Hoosier I like this HP Case.. I found one today actually with i7 8700 and 8 gigs of DDR4. Having the 310 watt PSU probably affords me a GPU upgrade over the intel HD 630 integrated graphics. GTX 1050ti/1650 for light gaming? I'm pretty stoked on upgrading it with fast storage and GPU.
i dont think their psu has a pcie cable for those integrated graphics version
@@tyler9753???
Mine has the Ryzen 7 4700g and can't even play 7 days to die or like any games really besides sims 4
but if youre looking for a PC that can apparently deliver 4K at 60FPS video streaming and has all the latest wifi and bluetooth, has no interest in gaming and no interest in upgrading this seems perfect.
i bought an acer n50 nitro pc with a r5 3500 about 978$ cdn and it was the cheapest to get a somewhat decent gpu for my rig , put my 1050 in my son's pc to replace his 1030 i paid too much for. i also switched his R3 3100 for the R5 3500.i have put all the remaining parts in the acer pc and my youngest daughter asked me to have it ....... so, Buying prebuilt for the gpu didnt work as expected. and now my other daughter is like i want one too so i'm not out of the woods just yet lol . the acer pc also has some proprietary connectors for sata and psu, the cooler is also with screws not in standard configuration and the dvd drive( yes they still exist lol) also has some proprietary cabling pluging in a dock to slide the "laptop looking" dvd drive in. it has a 1tb hdd and the mb has a m.2 slot but i have to remove the hdd bay and the dvd drive bay since both cover the system where the m.2 slot is . i bought the original prebuilt at a nearby staples store . it seems to suffer from the same 1 8gb stick disease as mostly all prebuilt i've seen so far.
now i have a all black generic gtx1650 4gb gddr5 with a big sticker saying " don't touch " on the gpu fan that even gpu-z cannot identify who built it with the lookup button lol XD. it's looks is almost like buying a chinese card knockoff from aliexpress lol
This is sad. Locking such a solid CPU in a usless mobo. I just got an older Lenovo ThinkStation S30 with a Xeon E5 1620 and 32 gb of quad channel ddr3 ram for 500 usd and have all the room and power for most mid tier GPUs. Used workstations with a GPU upgrade is the best bet most have the way computer component prices have been lately.
Lenovo, at least in the past, has had some of the most consumer friendly machines I've worked with. I haven't had my hands on any of their recent desktop machines, but I love when system builders just put together a solid system that has plenty of upgrade paths available to the end user without having to go through the original manufacturer.
@@HoosierHardware I try to not be a fan boy and do build most of my own systems but lenovo has always been a solid option for laptops and prebuilt workstations, that you can upgrade with normal after market parts. I have worked with some of the newer server stuff but that is hard to compare to more normal gaming/home systems.
side note the vender i got that system from just sold out the other day. so i guess others thought it was a good deal aswell.
I just found a used one online for just 150 euro, locally. Just checking to make sure if its worth it to perhaps re-sell or just sell all the parts loose. It still comes with a gtx 1050 ti and all that.Re-selling the cpu and gpu in my country would already make me a profit and have the rest of the parts left over ... too bad the motherboard and the psu are a bitch to transplant ...
glad I don't have a system like this.
I'M NOT A GAMER........................IS THIS DESKTOP OK FOR MUSIC PRODUCTION???
HP has learned from Apple and HP thinks well if they're customers are dolts enough to come back after what Apple does, we can screw ours too. If customers stop buying crap they wouldn't be able to do stuff like this. But just like Apple some of it is to tie down the customer with limitations, and to save money on things like wiring. Every penny saved on a thousand machines is hundreds earned and the PC market is already incredibly thin margins.
Make great two bay NAS systems
No computer should ship with an SSD smaller than 500GB. Also a 1TB hard drive is getting a bit small for a hard drive these days..should be atleast 2TB. Computers in 2008 with hard drives shipped with more storage than half these computers with SSD’s now. What a joke.
HP back to their custom PSU roots. I hate they do this, intels already given you a 12VO only standard why not use that.
180w psu is insufficient and atrocious barely enough to power a 75w card.
so , If you want HP gaming pc, buy the Omen Hp series...
this is e-waste, this should be illegal, I don't know why the US Government allow this type of product to be sold in the country, they obviously want customers to buy a new computer every 2 years, whoever have had a desktop PC for years, you know you always have to replace the power supply, it usually gets damage, sometimes I use the parts from different old pcs to build a nice desktop, now all of this parts are useless, HP should be sue for this.
Over the years I've seen lots of HP prebuilds... this one might be the grossest looking one I've seen. HP has always cheaped out on PSU and Mobo, this is pretty standard for them
I'm watching this on a that pavilion model
Lmao
never had a good experience with anything HP except the old hp tower slimelines that every school had. Laptop build quality and their desktops just suck and have dumb issues.
100% agree HP Sucks.....And the bios update from their websight has been known to screw up and totally black screen you to death ....Even if you get past that it comes back to haunt you.
Fact's 😂 stay away from OEM's
This kind of system is nothing but E-Waste. The CPU is the only good thing in it.
Wow VGA gots to go
Pavilions are those machines you only buy if a) It's on a murderously good sale and b) you have no intention of ever upgrading it.
I bought one about five-ish or so years ago. It was an i5-8400 with 16GB of RAM, 128GB SSD and 1TB HD. But like every Pavilion, it has that gimped, non-standard 180W PSU, a proprietary motherboard and a case that can only easily use those motherboards. Outside of doubling the RAM and eventually installing Linux, I didn't touch a thing. I could edit and render 1080p video comfortably and 4K if I didn't like myself that day and didn't want to use proxy clips. Still being used today -- I passed it along to my mother. Works like a champ for what she uses it for.
That said, I never recommend HP pre-builts purely because of the proprietary dead-end nature of any individual model. Pity, because they generally aren't garbage build quality...you just can't grow the machine with you. Ironically, the garbage build quality gaming PCs are actually more useful long term.
Hp machines being hp machines.
as a PC technician who sales off-lease rigs to clients, due to it being eco-friendly. I only sell HP, Dell, Lenovo rigs to users who aren't power users. So simple office use, or web browsing or Facebook kinda tasks. Since usually the off-lease rigs I offer to clients are dead end systems and usually proprietary parts inside. If a client doesn't want off-lease then I'll go to a local SI for a new build, however, in my years of dealing with clients, I've only had to sell a brand new rig like 2x. The rest I've sold to users on a budget..and they aren't gamers. I don't have any gamer clients, since for the most part gamers, work their rigs harder than a web browsing rig or media center rig. Usually also, gamers know what they are doing with their build "usually". I know there are those who are newbs in the DIY rig building space, so have to factor that also. My own rigs have been either build by my own hands, or a local SI. I haven't gone to an SI since 2008, since I like the feeling of accomplishment after building a rig :)
Hold on, there! Who said this is a gaming computer? Not Costco. Their least expensive computer listed for gaming is about $900, has 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD, 2TB HDD. I bought the HP primarily for communications, Internet access, and to use the Libreoffice Suite. Mine came with a Ryzen 5 5600g and a 2TB HDD. It’s way more than I need, but the lowest price I could find. If you want a gaming computer, buy one. Don’t try to make an office computer something it’s not intended to be.
It's a consumer pc for web and typewriter programs 😂 Not a gaming pc! So why do you complain about it? You can't take a Fiat 500 and pretend to be upgradable to a Mercedes!😢😂😊
I have extra GPU's just hit me up. I'm serious! Don't you read your Instagram?
Ah yes good old OEM crap here lads (and that's why you should buy custom prebuilds with standard parts) you can't always know what shit they've done with the design in HP or dell or whatever.
Addendum: If you MUST buy a prebuilt due to market conditions, make sure to look up teardowns to see what type of proprietary crap you'll be dealing with.
garbage motherboard, your main platform, enough said lol, CPU only thing worth anything
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