Great tips. Didn't know the 1h/2h grips improved value! Definitely did not know you could sell to lords. I was amazed to see you had 27k influence. I'm 100+ hours into my game and I've barely hit 500 lol. Of course I keep spending it to make armies and whoop ass, but I haven't spent that much really (maybe 2 or 3 hundred total spent). Every video on smithing says just keep buying pugios and tribal throwing daggers to get materials, but I've found that after I did that the initial first time, none of the cities ever sell more than 1 now...I'm pretty sure at least a few game years have gone by since then too.
I used footage from various videos as well as recordings specifically for this - the high influence is from my Empire only run where I never looked at it - it’s funny because in my Battania only run I ended up running out, odd. In both of those videos I was smithing and was excited when I found a stack of 20 Pugios - I’m my new video that I’m still editing I banned smithing and literally every town had a stack of 100 of them 🤣 I nearly cried! Oh and in regards to selling to lords, you will be selling at a loss compared to towns, unless you get 2/3 specific perks that increase selling to males/females etc BUT I’d say it is still a good idea to dump $400k-$1m in one transaction, especially if the smithed swords are so easy (and cheap) to make. Just bear that in mind when you decide to sell!
Came here expecting to already know what was presented. Left with new knowledge. Might be interesting to see the level 150 charm perks are actually useful (decreased barter penalty) in this context.
Charm is so much easier and more enjoyable to level than Trade (in my opinion) so this might be just as good - in terms of selling crafted weapons, I don’t like the interface when trading as you can’t see stats or what you’ve marked to keep etc. It’s amazing to me that they come back with more money after some time has passed, imagine doing this for 3/4 cycles!
Indeed, very good. Here's some more tips when you need nice metals to smith, in towns, also buy pitch forks for wood, fine steel spears, pugio are the best of course, but also Tribesman throwing daggers are also really good. Any Spatha's (fine, steel, narrow fuller), battle axes, wide leaf spear, long fine steel spear. Some have an additional lumber, some do not, but they all give nice metals. Make sure to give at least one companion the practical smelter skill, you'll smelt three times as much with one person. When you gain huge amounts of money you can buy lots of weapons in towns (which nobles cannot give you), so you might switch between selling to nobles and buying in town, since in town you can pay for all your needs with all your weapons, basically making towns your income. I didn't know about the nobles, thanks for that! If you have a big army you can also give your soldiers a lot of XP by 'throwing away' weapons and gear' to give them big boosts, making them elites.
Love these tips thank you! I always forget which weapons are the good ones to buy for smithing, I knew wooden hammers are great (+3 hardwood) but I'll add pitchforks to my list! I'm always scared to buy weapons because I've been burnt in the past lol so I rely on battle loot but to be fair if we're bringing in millions it wouldn't matter lol
@@bim_94 pitchforks also work buy they are less material for more price as a mallet would be 60~ denars for 3 wood 1 crude iron Whilst the pitchfork is 90~ denars for 3 wood and that's it.
last time i was big into smithing, i just gave one of my companions all my smithed weapons and they sell them while leading a party. this is a few patches ago, so not sure it still works, but it could be an alternative. they also gain trading skill doing that. EDIT: confirmed it still works, have to be in a kingdom and give them things via the barter menu and they will sell it over time
Someone else commented this but when I couldn’t find how to do it - thank you! I’ll give this a go. Does it sell overtime or do they actually have to go town to town? I keep companion party leaders in my army, but if they have to visit maybe giving it to a companion caravan is better?
They sell som each day, though i dont think they physically sell it to towns as they still "sell" it if they get captured. Also, i dont think you can give it to your caravans. The only time i've been able to get the barter menu is when im in a kingdom, and they are leading a party. You don't seem to get the option when they are in your army either.
Very cool! I also noticed that two handed swords are the fastest to get parts for first. I think next is javelins, and then polearms. Do you know when one-handed swords are the fastest to unlock parts for? I'm trying to make an OP one-handed sword in my current playthrough, but it's taking forever to unlock the parts.
If I’m being totally honest…I’ve only ever done the 2h weapon route. But the fastest way to unlock parts would be smelting other 1h weapons especially if you have the 100% unlock rate perk like in the video - I don’t know of any other ways to unlock parts. Post the recipe once you got it though!
Most army loot is going to be 1 handed swords anyway, im already at the start of tier 3 one handed, its a bit slow but would only focus on it if you really want a crafted 1-hander.
Or a well deserved dislike lol. Just note: without 2 charm perks you will be selling at a loss compared to towns BUT this is still great for getting a whole bunch of cash in one transaction. You’ll be selling at maybe 60% but it’ll take a day and you can just smith more, compared to a year of circulating the map selling them
Yes I've just realized that you need some extra perks I haven't gotten 😂 but my character does have good amount of focus and attribute in those areas so shouldn't be a problem 😁
Thank you for your efforts for the video. Let me ask you something. The level of blacksmithing is over 250, but it gives a bonus when you forge the weapon (green + points), but after a day, the weapon returns to its old state. I wonder what is the reason?
There’s a couple of perks in charm and trade that make this even more worthwhile but even if you’re selling at a loss you could still build it up to $1m in one transaction which is the real game changer. Instead of spending a year navigating the map for 500k, spend a day and drop $1m!
I use a gaming laptop and unfortunately it cannot handle almost any mods 🙁 When I upgrade to a PC I’ll 100% play modded, everyone is suggesting all these great mods!
Just starting, do I have to wait until I’m clan tier 3 to start smithing? I want to do it from the beginning but i don’t really know if it’s viable. Not sure if it’s necessary to spec into smithing early if im not using it right away. Also read someone else saying this doesn’t work anymore?
Hey! Still working fine! You certainly can start this day 1, I just find the stamina cap to be irritating so I like getting companions involved with making charcoal so I can focus on the bigger xp stuff like actually making the swords. And I saw your comment on the other question and yes it is still working but it is sold at like 50% reduced price but the alternative is selling one weapon per town as by the end the weapons are so valuable that a normal town might not be able to afford it! Good luck with the game though I'm so happy you picked it up, it's one of my favourites
@@bim_94 thanks for the response, I’ve been playing for a couple days and it took me this long to realize all my companions suck ass and will never be smiths. Even the smith companion I found is capped really low and I can’t control his focus/attribute points when he (very slowly) levels up. I think the console version of this game is cucked. On 1.7.0
I've been hunting down armies to sell weapons to, but they dont offer the same amount as settlements. Is this normal or do I need a perk to get the most value, or is it a trade-off for working around selling to settlements? I would be getting 240k from a settlement, but trading with a noble only getting 87k?
You’re absolutely right, you will be selling at a loss but for the cost of the materials it’s still overpowered if not maybe slightly more balanced and you are able to drop $1m in one transaction. but if we’re going for fast riches there are 2 perks one in trader and one in steward (I think!) it’s about selling to nobles. It’ll never be town sell value but it’ll increase the odds
Does this method still work? (Selling). And how exactly do the mechanics of the method work? Do the lords independently then go and sell those items with no trade penalty therefore increasing their gold stockpile? Or is the money just coming from thin air?
Also, shouldn’t you always grab the trade penalty perk? You say that if you’re the one smithing it makes sense to take the stamina reduction one. Regardless, your companions can’t really sell the items right? So doesn’t it make more sense for you to just take the selling perk regardless? And does that perk affect bartering? I assume not
Still works! I'm not sure exactly what happens if I'm entirely honest, I know In some instances money just happens for NPC's and other times it's transactional - but waiting a week always makes the clan leaders barter gold increase. Not sure if they're draining a towns gold or the knock on effects of this (bugger party size/more upgraded troops etc) and just to clarify it's clan leaders only, all other lords seem to always have exactly $1,000 The perk choice is personal preference, if you end up getting the final perk and make masterwork weapons then you're already selling at silly prices so for me I like to make slightly more and sell for slightly less. This also means you can smith more before having to rest. But it's of course personal preference, if you're selling in towns you may only be able to sell 1 per town or might have to spend a few weeks selling to a clan leader and building up their cash reserves, but if we're at that level you're probably already at $10m and if someone was to do this for a world conquest then you'd likely just stop smithing at that point
@@bim_94 no, no. That was certainly eloquent enough and extremely helpful. Your smithing point was also completely valid, especially considering the fact that past very early game smithing materials are extremely easy to get. I normally roll with a coalbiter that I can use as a melee infantry captain, a scout/bow captain, and myself as mandatory party members. I usually am able to get my coalbiter up to around 150-200 smithing pretty quickly so wasn’t sure I should personally take the smithing or $ perk. Regardless, I think you’re right and both options are valid. But considering offloading is the biggest issue and trade price doesn’t help the barter price, I think the smithing option is probably optimal.
@@bim_94 btw it doesn’t work anymore unless I’m doin something wrong. Barter value of goods is atrocious. Lords will value your 25k item at like 10-20%
Only for the first few refining perks, it’s so that you can focus of stamina and quality of items, and when you want charcoal or other things like iron and steel refined - or weapons smelted you can use the companions stamina instead of your own!
The latest part about selling the 2 handed swords to Nobles is new to me... wow. I hope you got 1 specialist companion as an Assistant smith. The guy who smelting junks weapons for raw materials and refinering while your main character do the actual smithing. Lmao i once got my 150 skill points smithing companion killed in a random Siege... got really depressed for 1 hour😂😂
Haha noooooo! Getting to 150 is easily done but the focus points you’d need them to get would take the longest that’s heartbreaking! And yes selling to nobles! There’s one or two good bartering with nobles perks in the charm tree so it makes leveling the trader skill less worthwhile (which I don’t like levelling anyway, it’s not that entertaining to me)
Nice vid and great exploit. You are right. I have not seen anyone else mention this exploit. I wonder whether this helps deplete the kingdom bank due to the trades so you can undermine the kingdom easier by sending them to bankruptcy or not? Since they come back with more money, it seems they sell the weapons you traded with them so they should be richer and stronger as a kingdom overall.
It’s an interesting point but I noticed that every non clan leader always has exactly 5,000 on them suggesting that the AI don’t pay for recruitment or upkeep. It makes me think if they’re actually paying their own tribute or is it just random cash from the computer. Like I wonder if there is the same amount of Denars throughout the entire game or does magic money just appear
@captainuzumaki6992 what do you mean exactly? Smelting perks are for unlocking parts and we’d have the materials from smelting the weapons we have been collecting since the start. Was that your question? 😊
@@bim_94 I mean there’s perks that are mainly refining which allows you to make fine steel and higher however if you choose all the smelting perks you’ll no longer be able to refine higher materials
@captainuzumaki6992 ah right, so I use one companion, Normally my wife, to be the only refiner - and I use her mainly for the lower end materials as I more often run out of those and I buy Pugios and other daggers that give fine steel. I like my stamina to be spent in smithing so I prefer to travel and buy these daggers than spent time refining
Thanks! I’d still test it with an item you know the value of, sometimes especially without perks you get ripped off BUT it’s still a way to get their budget up so next time you can sell all 👌
The value goes down but there are 2 perks that help offset this, one at charm 150 that improves barter penalty with lords of the same/different culture (depending which one you pick) And Trade 225 gives -50% barter Pemulwuy which is huge. BUT in my opinion, even selling smithed items at a loss may still be more efficient, you can quickly make a massive stack of crafted weapons and need to take a year to sell them full price, or - call a clan leader and still make a crazy amount (even at a loss) in one transaction, and the beauty is next time they will have even more denars on them (which is how I got that one clan leader to have over $1m)
I’m not 100% what the question is sorry, but hopefully this answers: Smelting unlocks parts, so if you want to start smithing 1h weapons but don’t have the parts you want, all you need to do is make the cheapest 1h weapon you can, make an absolute heap and then smelt it down again. Repeat until you have more parts you can use!
When you to lords there’s a penultimate, there’s a few perks that offset it but the cost of making a sword is so low that I still think it’s worth it - compared to spending a year travelling the map!
tribesmen throwing daggers are the most abundant and also Pugios in empire towns, they’re the cheapest and offer almost all materials, might need to do a lap of the world to collect enough but one lap is all you’d need 😊
So you’d use lords of your own kingdom so that you can call them into your army, instead of trying to find them on the map - and honestly I don’t know what repercussions there are to NPC lords having a lot/no money, but they’ll already be in your kingdom 👌
@@bim_94 today I finally had some time, so I figured following your video. It works which is great, but do you know anything about how smithing works? Because most of the time I'm getting either dull or rusted blades from smithing :(
Unfortunately I haven’t smithed since patch 1.2 was released and they added these modifiers you’re talking about, all I can guess is that if the weapon is above your skill level then you have a higher chance of it being defective, I do not know if this effects XP though. If it’s cost is drastically effected I may even consider smelting it down to smith again (at the loss of the highest ingot used)
You’re absolutely right but on the balance of things I still would use this method as the time it takes to circle the map to sell at full price rages so much longer than selling all in one transaction and remaking more. That being said there are two main perks that improve this, an early Charm perk that improves selling to males/female’s AND a 225 trade perk that reduces the trade penalty to Lords by -50%. Bit of a pain if you’re not levelling a trade/charisma character but I’m even without these perks I still use this way ⚖️
Honestly, not sure. Other than just having more money I’m not sure what the other implications are, but quite possibly! They have a ‘wealth’ statistic in the encyclopaedia
@@bim_94 it also seems like a great way to keep vassals out of poverty when that comes up. And... I've seen their trade skills homies are using console commands lol
Not that I’ve noticed, I’d love to know the AI money mechanics as all non clan leaders always have exactly 5,000 no matter what, suggesting that they have no expenses even though they’re running a party. So I’m thinking clan leaders have the income from their properties but there’s no actual use for it? That’s all speculation on my part BUT I do know that if a faction isn’t doing well and can’t afford peace then the AI forces YOU to pay THEM - so if you defeat a kingdom but do this method to their kingdom ruler it might mean cheaper/proper peace deals? None of this 100k/day for peace with a kingdom with 0 lands? Again speculation though
@@bim_94 ir you, the clan leader, make a party with a clan member, their expenses are also yours, maybe its just that, and the 5000 is just to make them actually have money, maybe as a debug thing or something.
lol you literally broke the game economics. now you can make a huge army of high level mercenaries and rule the world 😂. Honestly the game is more fun when managing your economy while struggling to keep your army salaries and expenses, which drives you to take care of your workshops snd caravans and your fiefs and your citizens to increase taxes to make even bigger army. BUT overall thanks for the guide, I will definitely follow it in moderation.
I’m a real sucker for smithing, I’m currently playing my next world conquest but I’ve banned smithing and oh my word I’ve struggled, was in debt for 10 years and it’s taking far longer than usual - but I’m having an absolute blast playing it!
@@bim_94 Indeed it would be a real struggle, but with high level roguery you can get good quality loot to sell, Also I always buy things I see cheap hoping to sell them later if I came across a profitable market, but the struggle is the fun of it. I have lost many battles and lost tons of products and equipments and expensive horses only to start from scratch after paying for my freedom.. only to get captured the same day by bandits 🤣... I would love to see a mod where you get sold to work as a slave in a cave and you have to escape or work there for few days lol.
Haha the setbacks are devastating AND euphoric! Bannerlord is such an incredible game and the mod possibilities are absolutely endless, I wouldn’t be surprised if this mod came to fruition!
Smelting weapons - higher tiers generally provide higher materials, or use companions (ideally) to refine all the lower grade materials. A cheap way to get a bunch of materials is looks for Pugios and Tribesmen Throwing Daggers, they're very cheap ($100ish each) and give you all but themeskine!
Alot to do with highest cut damage is wrong, its all balancing the right part. Higher tier generally is better but i feel like it scales to the lower tiers also a bit to the higher tiers but it comes down to certain parts, it could even be part combos, when I made a cool looking eastern sabre at tier 2 it was worth 5.5k while higher tier parts were worth less. This dude clearly did no proper testing before he made the video
I’m certainly not one of the ‘proper’ TH-camrs like Flesson19 or Strat and don’t have the time nor intelligence to go through to find the best combination parts and what each element changes to the value etc but generally speaking what I say in the video is true, I say to check the value every time so you know if the last part you added was a good move or not. I’m sorry you feel let down with this video but I appreciate your comment ❤️
Haha go level your companions! To be fair I spent my first few playthrough not knowing how to outfit my companions so they remained as I found them lol
Why dont these weapons stack? I started playing 4 weeks ago on bo.This game cost 50euros and is made by people who want you to suffer endlessly.Unless you are a big clan.then you can outrun everyone on the map, kill 30% of their troops,steal gear,ssteal their money and put the player in jail for 1 hour.Absolutely sickening this game in my opnion.Only a monkey cn play this and think hes having fun;
The weapon stacking Doesn’t bother me too much but it does clog up your inventory lol. I was so bad and did not know how to play until about the 200 hour mark, what kept me coming back was the massive battle sizes, Once I saw a few (a lot) of guide videos this because my favourite game ever (maybe second to Lord of the Rings: Return of the King in PS2 lol) 🐒
The fun part about it is strategy.. can you recruit and train a strong big army before war time comes? can you survive and win a war while outnumbered and outranked with strategy? can you lead your army in battle with low casualties with low tier troops? can you manage your army expenses...etc etc... if all you care about is money exploits then this is no longer bannerlord and it will become boring like Playing grocery store simulation 😂. I am actually here trying to learn how smithing works and how to make good weapons for personal use and the market as I just started playing the game few days ago. I usually get enough money smithing orders. 😊.. though I am still struggling with war mechanics as i get defeated most of the time.. super hard to lead an army while arrows flying and heavy cavalry can come from behind you and take your head 😂 Edit: oh I am always the first to die in battle 😂🤦
@techach3490 the unfortunate thing is that there isn’t actually any penalties to being in debt so low money only really gets in the way of recruiting. You can win a $40k noble horse at a tournament and fully equip a companion/set up caravans/workshops. Personally I like getting a few million via smithing then just forgetting about money because it really is a redundant mechanic. I think the game will run as well if there was no such thing as money as the party cap is more than enough to balance the game - you’d remove all realism and roleplay value (and I wouldn’t like that) but it’s an interesting point I think. I had written a large reply to this previously but I lost it because my baby stole my phone I hope I’m didn’t forget anything 🤣
You just made bannerlord fun for me again; I hated worrying about my funds every day, but now I’m free
Yayyy! I’m so happy! People seem to be up and down with this game recently but I’m still very much loving it! Glad to hear 🫡
Yay support the Bannerlord content creators!!
Great tips. Didn't know the 1h/2h grips improved value! Definitely did not know you could sell to lords. I was amazed to see you had 27k influence. I'm 100+ hours into my game and I've barely hit 500 lol. Of course I keep spending it to make armies and whoop ass, but I haven't spent that much really (maybe 2 or 3 hundred total spent). Every video on smithing says just keep buying pugios and tribal throwing daggers to get materials, but I've found that after I did that the initial first time, none of the cities ever sell more than 1 now...I'm pretty sure at least a few game years have gone by since then too.
I used footage from various videos as well as recordings specifically for this - the high influence is from my Empire only run where I never looked at it - it’s funny because in my Battania only run I ended up running out, odd.
In both of those videos I was smithing and was excited when I found a stack of 20 Pugios - I’m my new video that I’m still editing I banned smithing and literally every town had a stack of 100 of them 🤣 I nearly cried!
Oh and in regards to selling to lords, you will be selling at a loss compared to towns, unless you get 2/3 specific perks that increase selling to males/females etc BUT I’d say it is still a good idea to dump $400k-$1m in one transaction, especially if the smithed swords are so easy (and cheap) to make. Just bear that in mind when you decide to sell!
Came here expecting to already know what was presented. Left with new knowledge. Might be interesting to see the level 150 charm perks are actually useful (decreased barter penalty) in this context.
Charm is so much easier and more enjoyable to level than Trade (in my opinion) so this might be just as good - in terms of selling crafted weapons, I don’t like the interface when trading as you can’t see stats or what you’ve marked to keep etc.
It’s amazing to me that they come back with more money after some time has passed, imagine doing this for 3/4 cycles!
@@bim_94 would do these to boost a new clan/once rebel clan.
Nice! Idk why i never thought to try that!
Yoooo The "sell to noble" is brilliant!
right ? it creative such way
Haha glad you like it!
@bim_94 definetly man ;) this started cascade that I didnt sleep for last 2 days properly :D my boss is kinda stressed bcs Im so fucked up at work xD
Haha you don’t sleep in game so you don’t sleep IRL 🤣
omg though get some rest!
@@bim_94 exactly xD
The final minute of this video is pure unedited gold
One minute of errors per 8 minutes of recording haha, should probably just use Siri to be my narrator lol
RIP to all the men starving at the end, very cool vid!
Haha it was an old save, forever in eternal empty belly-ness
side note now that i have done some testing, you need the -50% trade penalty to trade with lords, if not they will take your stuff for 50% discount
Interesting! I created a character especially for this video, and used footage from 2 other playthroughs and didn’t spot this. Thanks for the intel!
Great info!
Selling to Nobles is a really great idea, nice work.
It really is! never considered it before accidentally figuring it out!
Damn, really smart move with the nobles ! Appreciate that tipp ! Thanks for that 👍🏼
So much better to be able to (end up) doing everything in one transaction 😩
Indeed, very good. Here's some more tips when you need nice metals to smith, in towns, also buy pitch forks for wood, fine steel spears, pugio are the best of course, but also Tribesman throwing daggers are also really good. Any Spatha's (fine, steel, narrow fuller), battle axes, wide leaf spear, long fine steel spear. Some have an additional lumber, some do not, but they all give nice metals.
Make sure to give at least one companion the practical smelter skill, you'll smelt three times as much with one person.
When you gain huge amounts of money you can buy lots of weapons in towns (which nobles cannot give you), so you might switch between selling to nobles and buying in town, since in town you can pay for all your needs with all your weapons, basically making towns your income. I didn't know about the nobles, thanks for that!
If you have a big army you can also give your soldiers a lot of XP by 'throwing away' weapons and gear' to give them big boosts, making them elites.
Love these tips thank you!
I always forget which weapons are the good ones to buy for smithing, I knew wooden hammers are great (+3 hardwood) but I'll add pitchforks to my list!
I'm always scared to buy weapons because I've been burnt in the past lol so I rely on battle loot but to be fair if we're bringing in millions it wouldn't matter lol
Finally, someone else that knows the hammer trick
I love these little finds that help out SO MUCH 👌
@@bim_94 pitchforks also work buy they are less material for more price as a mallet would be 60~ denars for 3 wood 1 crude iron
Whilst the pitchfork is 90~ denars for 3 wood and that's it.
yeah I love seeing pitchforks in battle loot but I wouldn’t buy them especially
Great tip! Definitely have to try this next playthrough!
With a few perk choices you could seriously make bank with this method!
How have I never heard of this game until a few days ago? seriously..I would have been all in on this a long time ago
Go all in on it now! It’s about to get a massive update with a lot of quality of life improvements! Literally the best time to start is now!
last time i was big into smithing, i just gave one of my companions all my smithed weapons and they sell them while leading a party. this is a few patches ago, so not sure it still works, but it could be an alternative. they also gain trading skill doing that. EDIT: confirmed it still works, have to be in a kingdom and give them things via the barter menu and they will sell it over time
Do you know how to get steel
Someone else commented this but when I couldn’t find how to do it - thank you! I’ll give this a go. Does it sell overtime or do they actually have to go town to town? I keep companion party leaders in my army, but if they have to visit maybe giving it to a companion caravan is better?
For steel - Smelt down weapons, my favourite are pugios and tribesmen throwing daggers!
They sell som each day, though i dont think they physically sell it to towns as they still "sell" it if they get captured. Also, i dont think you can give it to your caravans. The only time i've been able to get the barter menu is when im in a kingdom, and they are leading a party. You don't seem to get the option when they are in your army either.
I've been trying to figure out how to make more gold fast 😩 this video literally helps me do so
I'm so glad it helped! Good luck with the wars ahead 🫡
This should be how smithing works in a city builder game like Manor Lords
Loved manor lords! Don't find it very replayable though. And you're absolutely right!
Very cool! I also noticed that two handed swords are the fastest to get parts for first. I think next is javelins, and then polearms. Do you know when one-handed swords are the fastest to unlock parts for? I'm trying to make an OP one-handed sword in my current playthrough, but it's taking forever to unlock the parts.
If I’m being totally honest…I’ve only ever done the 2h weapon route. But the fastest way to unlock parts would be smelting other 1h weapons especially if you have the 100% unlock rate perk like in the video - I don’t know of any other ways to unlock parts.
Post the recipe once you got it though!
Use a 2h handle that allows for 1 handed and make it small might help. I use a falx blade on a 2h but cannise it with a shield doing this
Most army loot is going to be 1 handed swords anyway, im already at the start of tier 3 one handed, its a bit slow but would only focus on it if you really want a crafted 1-hander.
This is the best guide out there
Thank you bro
Thank you! I hope it helps!
Gonna try this real soon just crafting up the materials and weapons if this works your getting a well deserved like my friend
Or a well deserved dislike lol. Just note: without 2 charm perks you will be selling at a loss compared to towns BUT this is still great for getting a whole bunch of cash in one transaction. You’ll be selling at maybe 60% but it’ll take a day and you can just smith more, compared to a year of circulating the map selling them
Yes I've just realized that you need some extra perks I haven't gotten 😂 but my character does have good amount of focus and attribute in those areas so shouldn't be a problem 😁
@bim_94 only need trade 225 for the -50% penalty and gotta start stockpiling that influence
Wait what?!?!? Sell to clan leaders?!?!
You won yourself a sub, that is amazing!
Haha thanks! I’m glad you are blown away by my magnificence ❤️
Thank you for your efforts for the video. Let me ask you something. The level of blacksmithing is over 250, but it gives a bonus when you forge the weapon (green + points), but after a day, the weapon returns to its old state. I wonder what is the reason?
Ooohhhh I think this is a new thing in 1.2? I haven’t actually done any smithing at all during this patch so I’m unsure! Sorry
HOW DID I NEVER HEAR OF THIS!
There’s a couple of perks in charm and trade that make this even more worthwhile but even if you’re selling at a loss you could still build it up to $1m in one transaction which is the real game changer. Instead of spending a year navigating the map for 500k, spend a day and drop $1m!
Just made me want to really attempt smithing for income
Careful! Once you start you will never be able to play the game without doing it! 🤣
i found out that 2h pikes, with a t3 staff that allows thrown and the rest parts that consume steel or fine steel sells for 21-23k
I heard polearms were the most resource efficient way to earn, I’ve actually never done it!
WOW MY IQ WAS RAISED BY 10000 VERY NICE!
It’s 10001 now then! 😉
I love to see campaing with mods of your preference :)
I use a gaming laptop and unfortunately it cannot handle almost any mods 🙁
When I upgrade to a PC I’ll 100% play modded, everyone is suggesting all these great mods!
Awesome tip. Thanks.
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You can do javelins and unlock all parts in no time at clan tier 0. Makes the early game a breeze
I've never actually gone down the javelin route myself! Parts just come faster with swords!
Just starting, do I have to wait until I’m clan tier 3 to start smithing?
I want to do it from the beginning but i don’t really know if it’s viable. Not sure if it’s necessary to spec into smithing early if im not using it right away.
Also read someone else saying this doesn’t work anymore?
Hey! Still working fine!
You certainly can start this day 1, I just find the stamina cap to be irritating so I like getting companions involved with making charcoal so I can focus on the bigger xp stuff like actually making the swords.
And I saw your comment on the other question and yes it is still working but it is sold at like 50% reduced price but the alternative is selling one weapon per town as by the end the weapons are so valuable that a normal town might not be able to afford it!
Good luck with the game though I'm so happy you picked it up, it's one of my favourites
@@bim_94 thanks for the response, I’ve been playing for a couple days and it took me this long to realize all my companions suck ass and will never be smiths. Even the smith companion I found is capped really low and I can’t control his focus/attribute points when he (very slowly) levels up. I think the console version of this game is cucked. On 1.7.0
Dude heck yeaaaa🔥🔥🔥
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I've been hunting down armies to sell weapons to, but they dont offer the same amount as settlements. Is this normal or do I need a perk to get the most value, or is it a trade-off for working around selling to settlements? I would be getting 240k from a settlement, but trading with a noble only getting 87k?
You’re absolutely right, you will be selling at a loss but for the cost of the materials it’s still overpowered if not maybe slightly more balanced and you are able to drop $1m in one transaction. but if we’re going for fast riches there are 2 perks one in trader and one in steward (I think!) it’s about selling to nobles. It’ll never be town sell value but it’ll increase the odds
thats actually genius!
Just be aware that you do sell at a loss! There’s 2/3 perks that help reduce this but this is a way to dump $1m in one transaction easily!
Does this method still work? (Selling).
And how exactly do the mechanics of the method work? Do the lords independently then go and sell those items with no trade penalty therefore increasing their gold stockpile? Or is the money just coming from thin air?
Also, shouldn’t you always grab the trade penalty perk? You say that if you’re the one smithing it makes sense to take the stamina reduction one. Regardless, your companions can’t really sell the items right? So doesn’t it make more sense for you to just take the selling perk regardless?
And does that perk affect bartering? I assume not
Still works! I'm not sure exactly what happens if I'm entirely honest, I know In some instances money just happens for NPC's and other times it's transactional - but waiting a week always makes the clan leaders barter gold increase. Not sure if they're draining a towns gold or the knock on effects of this (bugger party size/more upgraded troops etc) and just to clarify it's clan leaders only, all other lords seem to always have exactly $1,000
The perk choice is personal preference, if you end up getting the final perk and make masterwork weapons then you're already selling at silly prices so for me I like to make slightly more and sell for slightly less. This also means you can smith more before having to rest. But it's of course personal preference, if you're selling in towns you may only be able to sell 1 per town or might have to spend a few weeks selling to a clan leader and building up their cash reserves, but if we're at that level you're probably already at $10m and if someone was to do this for a world conquest then you'd likely just stop smithing at that point
Can I just say that I was out walking and typing at the same time and this might not make perfect sense haha.
@@bim_94 no, no. That was certainly eloquent enough and extremely helpful. Your smithing point was also completely valid, especially considering the fact that past very early game smithing materials are extremely easy to get.
I normally roll with a coalbiter that I can use as a melee infantry captain, a scout/bow captain, and myself as mandatory party members. I usually am able to get my coalbiter up to around 150-200 smithing pretty quickly so wasn’t sure I should personally take the smithing or $ perk. Regardless, I think you’re right and both options are valid. But considering offloading is the biggest issue and trade price doesn’t help the barter price, I think the smithing option is probably optimal.
@@bim_94 btw it doesn’t work anymore unless I’m doin something wrong. Barter value of goods is atrocious. Lords will value your 25k item at like 10-20%
Could please explain what is the point of having smithing companions?
Only for the first few refining perks, it’s so that you can focus of stamina and quality of items, and when you want charcoal or other things like iron and steel refined - or weapons smelted you can use the companions stamina instead of your own!
The latest part about selling the 2 handed swords to Nobles is new to me... wow.
I hope you got 1 specialist companion as an Assistant smith. The guy who smelting junks weapons for raw materials and refinering while your main character do the actual smithing.
Lmao i once got my 150 skill points smithing companion killed in a random Siege... got really depressed for 1 hour😂😂
Haha noooooo! Getting to 150 is easily done but the focus points you’d need them to get would take the longest that’s heartbreaking!
And yes selling to nobles! There’s one or two good bartering with nobles perks in the charm tree so it makes leveling the trader skill less worthwhile (which I don’t like levelling anyway, it’s not that entertaining to me)
@@bim_94 imagine having all the barter perks and max charm, selling a single 2-hander for like 1Million xd
With the right you could make serious cash, with the wrong jerks you could make serious cash 🤣
trible trowing knifes in empire lands also gives 1 of every ingot, just saying
Pugios were the only ones I had memorised until recently 🤣
Nice vid and great exploit. You are right. I have not seen anyone else mention this exploit. I wonder whether this helps deplete the kingdom bank due to the trades so you can undermine the kingdom easier by sending them to bankruptcy or not? Since they come back with more money, it seems they sell the weapons you traded with them so they should be richer and stronger as a kingdom overall.
It’s an interesting point but I noticed that every non clan leader always has exactly 5,000 on them suggesting that the AI don’t pay for recruitment or upkeep. It makes me think if they’re actually paying their own tribute or is it just random cash from the computer.
Like I wonder if there is the same amount of Denars throughout the entire game or does magic money just appear
@@bim_94how do you get smithing materials then if you choose all the smelting perks
@captainuzumaki6992 what do you mean exactly? Smelting perks are for unlocking parts and we’d have the materials from smelting the weapons we have been collecting since the start. Was that your question? 😊
@@bim_94 I mean there’s perks that are mainly refining which allows you to make fine steel and higher however if you choose all the smelting perks you’ll no longer be able to refine higher materials
@captainuzumaki6992 ah right, so I use one companion, Normally my wife, to be the only refiner - and I use her mainly for the lower end materials as I more often run out of those and I buy Pugios and other daggers that give fine steel. I like my stamina to be spent in smithing so I prefer to travel and buy these daggers than spent time refining
Greatest tip ever man
Thanks! I’d still test it with an item you know the value of, sometimes especially without perks you get ripped off BUT it’s still a way to get their budget up so next time you can sell all 👌
When I attempt to sell the smithed items to other lords they are treating a 17k sword in a town, for only 3-4k. Why?
The value goes down but there are 2 perks that help offset this, one at charm 150 that improves barter penalty with lords of the same/different culture (depending which one you pick)
And Trade 225 gives -50% barter Pemulwuy which is huge.
BUT in my opinion, even selling smithed items at a loss may still be more efficient, you can quickly make a massive stack of crafted weapons and need to take a year to sell them full price, or - call a clan leader and still make a crazy amount (even at a loss) in one transaction, and the beauty is next time they will have even more denars on them (which is how I got that one clan leader to have over $1m)
@@bim_94 Thanks! Made my first million because of this guide
Is it possible to switch to smithing from two handed swords to something else? I seem to be stuck on one handed swords and not sure how to change it
I’m not 100% what the question is sorry, but hopefully this answers:
Smelting unlocks parts, so if you want to start smithing 1h weapons but don’t have the parts you want, all you need to do is make the cheapest 1h weapon you can, make an absolute heap and then smelt it down again. Repeat until you have more parts you can use!
Hello, so i get more xp forging T5 weapons or smelting T5 weapons?
Smelting only unlocks parts - forging offers the XP and whether it’s T5 or not, XP is more tied to the value of the item 🔨
Very nice. Does it also work for console?
Need verification from a console player but I am sure that this will work on console 😊
@@bim_94 I'll check it out later tonight and let people know.
OK just checked some. I works! And if you are comfortable with a slight profit loss you can use selling the swords for relation gain.
Thank you! I was certain it would but I don’t have the necessary means for a necessary means to verify it
Whos best to make us learn about smithing than the Emperor of like...4 different calradias?
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Sadly the last part was patched a sword that sells for 27k only sells for 5k to lords now 😔
When you to lords there’s a penultimate, there’s a few perks that offset it but the cost of making a sword is so low that I still think it’s worth it - compared to spending a year travelling the map!
Having trouble with the materials keep on running out whilst smithing
tribesmen throwing daggers are the most abundant and also Pugios in empire towns, they’re the cheapest and offer almost all materials, might need to do a lap of the world to collect enough but one lap is all you’d need 😊
one thing worrying me is that the lords are becoming richer every after trade, does it make them harder to persuade in joining my kingdom?
So you’d use lords of your own kingdom so that you can call them into your army, instead of trying to find them on the map - and honestly I don’t know what repercussions there are to NPC lords having a lot/no money, but they’ll already be in your kingdom 👌
@@bim_94 today I finally had some time, so I figured following your video. It works which is great, but do you know anything about how smithing works? Because most of the time I'm getting either dull or rusted blades from smithing :(
Unfortunately I haven’t smithed since patch 1.2 was released and they added these modifiers you’re talking about, all I can guess is that if the weapon is above your skill level then you have a higher chance of it being defective, I do not know if this effects XP though.
If it’s cost is drastically effected I may even consider smelting it down to smith again (at the loss of the highest ingot used)
I feel like the nobles are scamming me as normally it’s worth like 100k to sell 10 but I have to give the nobles more than that for 100k
You’re absolutely right but on the balance of things I still would use this method as the time it takes to circle the map to sell at full price rages so much longer than selling all in one transaction and remaking more.
That being said there are two main perks that improve this, an early Charm perk that improves selling to males/female’s AND a 225 trade perk that reduces the trade penalty to Lords by -50%. Bit of a pain if you’re not levelling a trade/charisma character but I’m even without these perks I still use this way ⚖️
Superp guide I didn't about selling weapons to Lords
I didn’t even know they carried money to be honest
Superbbbb video
Thank you! i hope it helped!
If a lord gets richer does his troop quality increase as well?
Honestly, not sure. Other than just having more money I’m not sure what the other implications are, but quite possibly! They have a ‘wealth’ statistic in the encyclopaedia
If you make a party with your brother give him all the swords and you make millions per day
Yes some other people have said similar! Much less hassle,Thanks!
Big brain
I love the fact that the clan leaders themselves make a profit from selling your 40k weapons, what price are THEY selling them for 🤣
@@bim_94 it also seems like a great way to keep vassals out of poverty when that comes up. And... I've seen their trade skills homies are using console commands lol
@Platerade hahahaaha - that’s a good point but I’d be half expecting the Ai noble troop recruitment and expenses to be 0
Have you noticed if it does anything to make your kingdom richer and more powerful?
Not that I’ve noticed, I’d love to know the AI money mechanics as all non clan leaders always have exactly 5,000 no matter what, suggesting that they have no expenses even though they’re running a party. So I’m thinking clan leaders have the income from their properties but there’s no actual use for it?
That’s all speculation on my part BUT I do know that if a faction isn’t doing well and can’t afford peace then the AI forces YOU to pay THEM - so if you defeat a kingdom but do this method to their kingdom ruler it might mean cheaper/proper peace deals? None of this 100k/day for peace with a kingdom with 0 lands? Again speculation though
@@bim_94 ir you, the clan leader, make a party with a clan member, their expenses are also yours, maybe its just that, and the 5000 is just to make them actually have money, maybe as a debug thing or something.
The test for this would be to sell to a "poor clan" clan leader various times, and see if that changes things.
Is it possible to buy fiefs this way?
Absolutely! That’ll be the perfect time to also offload smithed weapons
@@bim_94 great I think you just saved my game, sided with the Southern Empire and they're going a bit too ham so time to buy fiefs and rebel lol
lol you literally broke the game economics. now you can make a huge army of high level mercenaries and rule the world 😂. Honestly the game is more fun when managing your economy while struggling to keep your army salaries and expenses, which drives you to take care of your workshops snd caravans and your fiefs and your citizens to increase taxes to make even bigger army. BUT overall thanks for the guide, I will definitely follow it in moderation.
I’m a real sucker for smithing, I’m currently playing my next world conquest but I’ve banned smithing and oh my word I’ve struggled, was in debt for 10 years and it’s taking far longer than usual - but I’m having an absolute blast playing it!
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Indeed it would be a real struggle, but with high level roguery you can get good quality loot to sell, Also I always buy things I see cheap hoping to sell them later if I came across a profitable market, but the struggle is the fun of it. I have lost many battles and lost tons of products and equipments and expensive horses only to start from scratch after paying for my freedom.. only to get captured the same day by bandits 🤣... I would love to see a mod where you get sold to work as a slave in a cave and you have to escape or work there for few days lol.
Haha the setbacks are devastating AND euphoric! Bannerlord is such an incredible game and the mod possibilities are absolutely endless, I wouldn’t be surprised if this mod came to fruition!
anyone knows how long it took him to do this ( how many gameplay hours )
I did this at the end of a 100 hour gameplay and it took me less than 1 hour. Doing this mid game you might need more resources and therefore longer
@@bim_94 I wasn't expecting the goat himself to answer me
@ouasselbentahar6566 Hahaha, listen I’m new to TH-cam so as soon as I get a notification that someone’s commented I get excited! 😂
how can i get steels?
Smelting weapons - higher tiers generally provide higher materials, or use companions (ideally) to refine all the lower grade materials.
A cheap way to get a bunch of materials is looks for Pugios and Tribesmen Throwing Daggers, they're very cheap ($100ish each) and give you all but themeskine!
Good vid appreciate it
Thank you ☺️
Omfgggg dah money yessssss
Don’t spend it all at once!
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Alot to do with highest cut damage is wrong, its all balancing the right part. Higher tier generally is better but i feel like it scales to the lower tiers also a bit to the higher tiers but it comes down to certain parts, it could even be part combos, when I made a cool looking eastern sabre at tier 2 it was worth 5.5k while higher tier parts were worth less.
This dude clearly did no proper testing before he made the video
I’m certainly not one of the ‘proper’ TH-camrs like Flesson19 or Strat and don’t have the time nor intelligence to go through to find the best combination parts and what each element changes to the value etc but generally speaking what I say in the video is true, I say to check the value every time so you know if the last part you added was a good move or not.
I’m sorry you feel let down with this video but I appreciate your comment ❤️
you pretty much have middle age Tupperware parties nice.
I don't think I understand what this means but thank you ❤️ lol
Omg so i can use companions to unlock weapon parts and then dismantle with the main character ?
Omg i'm an idi0t. 🤦♂️ 🤣
Haha go level your companions! To be fair I spent my first few playthrough not knowing how to outfit my companions so they remained as I found them lol
Might as well just use a cheat code it's so broken lol
That would take far less time lol
Why dont these weapons stack? I started playing 4 weeks ago on bo.This game cost 50euros and is made by people who want you to suffer endlessly.Unless you are a big clan.then you can outrun everyone on the map, kill 30% of their troops,steal gear,ssteal their money and put the player in jail for 1 hour.Absolutely sickening this game in my opnion.Only a monkey cn play this and think hes having fun;
The weapon stacking Doesn’t bother me too much but it does clog up your inventory lol. I was so bad and did not know how to play until about the 200 hour mark, what kept me coming back was the massive battle sizes, Once I saw a few (a lot) of guide videos this because my favourite game ever (maybe second to Lord of the Rings: Return of the King in PS2 lol) 🐒
The fun part about it is strategy.. can you recruit and train a strong big army before war time comes? can you survive and win a war while outnumbered and outranked with strategy? can you lead your army in battle with low casualties with low tier troops? can you manage your army expenses...etc etc... if all you care about is money exploits then this is no longer bannerlord and it will become boring like Playing grocery store simulation 😂. I am actually here trying to learn how smithing works and how to make good weapons for personal use and the market as I just started playing the game few days ago. I usually get enough money smithing orders. 😊.. though I am still struggling with war mechanics as i get defeated most of the time.. super hard to lead an army while arrows flying and heavy cavalry can come from behind you and take your head 😂
Edit: oh I am always the first to die in battle 😂🤦
@techach3490 the unfortunate thing is that there isn’t actually any penalties to being in debt so low money only really gets in the way of recruiting. You can win a $40k noble horse at a tournament and fully equip a companion/set up caravans/workshops.
Personally I like getting a few million via smithing then just forgetting about money because it really is a redundant mechanic. I think the game will run as well if there was no such thing as money as the party cap is more than enough to balance the game - you’d remove all realism and roleplay value (and I wouldn’t like that) but it’s an interesting point I think.
I had written a large reply to this previously but I lost it because my baby stole my phone I hope I’m didn’t forget anything 🤣