How to make your own car body repair panels hammer forming Tips and Tricks #18 panel beating

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  • @anderskarlsson9881
    @anderskarlsson9881 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Trev, you are a hero. In a world that flood of cheats and shortcuts you are one of the few that still has the pride, knowledge and skill to do correct and beautifully looking work. A true craftsman.

  • @billbailey48
    @billbailey48 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely Awesome Craftsmanship!!👍👍

  • @ranchrods1
    @ranchrods1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I watch a LOT of metal working videos as one can always pick up an idea or two here n there, BUT i gotta say, without a doubt your videos are the ones i get the most info out of. doing it "all by hand" is the best way to understand how metal will react cuz lets face it, only a very small percentage of the population have access to a pullmax (or can even afford one) the way you present your topic lends itself to being easily understood and leaves very few questions. WELL DONE GOOD SIR!!!!
    and the hair....EPIC!!!! cheers mate

  • @canberradogfarts
    @canberradogfarts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11 months later and I still cant get enough of that outtro montage.
    Trev, you could make entire videos with montages with music and minor explanatory voice over.

  • @samsykes8616
    @samsykes8616 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m making a UFO reception desk and I’ve watched every single sheet metal video available. Welding fabrication I can do in my sleep, sheet metal shaping is not as easy to me! Nice videos!

  • @Eger7law011
    @Eger7law011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a sheetmetal worker I have learned techniques that greatly expand the features of what I am creating with your precision forming knowledge. Greatly appreciated your presentation skills to help get it to come out true, your a marvelous character. Grateful, for all your generous sharing. You're a wizzbang, with the metal.

  • @TheChristeepher
    @TheChristeepher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Very informative Trev. Thank you for your valuable time once more. We all appreciate all you show us. Regards. Chris.

  • @jdwisdom9433
    @jdwisdom9433 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so glad you use a lot of video to explain your concepts for we are two peoples that are separated by a common language as Winston Churchill once uttered. Thanks, JD

  • @viktorhubai4079
    @viktorhubai4079 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very usable tips&tricks again Trev! Thanks for the upload!

  • @PCMenten
    @PCMenten 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trev makes tools. That’s a big part of his craft. I’m impressed.

  • @guillermonieri4203
    @guillermonieri4203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I knew you could be an excellent teacher. That was an awesome, extemely informative class. Thank you.

  • @johnblackburn7673
    @johnblackburn7673 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello Trev great video, I spent four years as a college tutor teaching young apprentices. You get things over brilliantly, interesting and straight to the point
    Your wheels are a shiny cherry red

  • @bigbearvenom6145
    @bigbearvenom6145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great looking replacement panels. True craftsman sheetmetal fabricator. I've done this sort of work my whole life in aviation for Lockheed, McDonnell, & Boeing. You would of fit right in, actually better than most, not all, than I've seen, and worked with in my field.

  • @MLFranklin
    @MLFranklin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's always a pleasure watching these excellent videos.

  • @NilsJakobson
    @NilsJakobson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This probably is the most useful blog on the internet if youre doing DIY automotive bodywork repairs on limited budget, even if you sorta knew how something should be done but never seen it actually being done then this is incredibly helpful, pure distilled down to earth knowledge of tools and metal. Thanks Trev!!!

  • @JuanHernandez-gy2jh
    @JuanHernandez-gy2jh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for sharing all your knowledge with us👍
    We do learn a lot from watching you work
    Keep making good jobs
    Thanks

  • @stevemcilroy9518
    @stevemcilroy9518 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you supply the hammers, lol😂 I'm still watching this years later as a refresher course, cheers Trev.

    • @trevsblog
      @trevsblog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep hammers back in stock soon 👍

  • @TheRadioStu
    @TheRadioStu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    beautiful work, Trev!

  • @EwanSadie1
    @EwanSadie1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Once again a great video. I am busy expanding my hobbies.
    I say white and blue on the van.

  • @PurpleHelmet
    @PurpleHelmet 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was just thinking to myself that stepped section could maybe be done with some sort of DIY pressing tool, then you went on to say just that! Looking forward to that video
    Learning so much from you Sir, many thanks!

  • @JoeKThePotter
    @JoeKThePotter 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am looking forward to your next video! Brilliant!

  • @northernwolfhound7096
    @northernwolfhound7096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fine handmade craftsmanship great video thanks for sharing 👍👍😀

  • @sixtyfiveford
    @sixtyfiveford 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent tips.

  • @pristaxau
    @pristaxau 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ALWAYS A GOOD TEACHING TUTORIAL VIDEO...GOOD ON U TREV!!...U R THE MAN!!

  • @paulhenry4205
    @paulhenry4205 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    White/cream over blue. Nice hammer! Great videos!

  • @roberthernandez9229
    @roberthernandez9229 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your tips are very helpful , Thank you!

  • @airtimegraphix1084
    @airtimegraphix1084 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are the graham hancok of metal working unlocking all the mysteries

  • @kittonsmitton
    @kittonsmitton 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff Trev I would love an hammer, wheels the same colour as the top half of the van 'cream' I think. Thanks again Trev for your brilliant Blog!

  • @luckycordel
    @luckycordel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dig your vids Trev! Thanks for the lesson. Wheel color White.

  • @stevesloan6775
    @stevesloan6775 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was so awesome!
    🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼😎🍀
    I just finished a panel with both a shrink and stretch in the one length.
    You do definitely deserve credit as well as a few more cracking content creators.🤙☮️☮️☮️

  • @jerryoghenekaro8316
    @jerryoghenekaro8316 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate all your videos

    • @trevsblog
      @trevsblog  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you 😊

  • @MegaCountach
    @MegaCountach 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    More good info Trev! Wheels will be cream. Cheers Doug

  • @willieboy8798
    @willieboy8798 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    excellent and clean instruction!!! txs

  • @stevesloan6775
    @stevesloan6775 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bloody brilliant video….!
    I learned so much

  • @TTTzzzz
    @TTTzzzz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will have to watch this again and again...

  • @VIDEN_SL
    @VIDEN_SL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent works !

  • @simonbertioli4696
    @simonbertioli4696 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Trev...l have done some similar....work on my LDV...but l used an hydraulic jack and steel male and female...worked ok and first time l did it...
    Please keep making the videos....first class👍

  • @wirefeed3419
    @wirefeed3419 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just found this channel, fantastic content, liked and subscribed

  • @floralfray7718
    @floralfray7718 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The new color of your van is Blue and Cream. Looking to enter the planishing hammer contest. Win or not, your videos are the best. Thanks Trev

  • @ricky12811
    @ricky12811 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    OmG to me this is art. Awesome job Sir.

  • @anthonykinrade8642
    @anthonykinrade8642 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving these videos!

  • @michaeljohnson404
    @michaeljohnson404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome bit of knowledge

  • @BEYTEK
    @BEYTEK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Urchfab hoodie on too. Another great fab guy

  • @oldyoung9379
    @oldyoung9379 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is the true work. Thank you very much.

  • @Giovanni-88.
    @Giovanni-88. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    true enthusiast you see that you put all your soul into your work this and the true craftsmanship congratulations and 'as you say in Italy so much of a good hat I follow you deserve it

  • @ricardobenin7830
    @ricardobenin7830 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the music in the intro lol

  • @monogramadikt5971
    @monogramadikt5971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn i wish i had a workspace to start playing around with metal. great video man, feeling inspired now ;)

  • @michaelharrison4066
    @michaelharrison4066 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trev you're a ninja very cool work.
    Subs should be well over a 150k mark
    Pure skill, humbleness and brilliance. I thank you for the time making videos 😎👍

  • @jjscustomfabrications8234
    @jjscustomfabrications8234 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff. Thank you

  • @acarcalledmercedes4750
    @acarcalledmercedes4750 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video , keep at it mate , good work

  • @backpages1
    @backpages1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, in #13, the wheels are a nice cherry red (unless of course that is the primer, but I've not ever seen a glossy red primer!). Enjoyed the video, it will likely help my VW bus project when I get to that stage. Keep at it!

  • @harnesswinergy9785
    @harnesswinergy9785 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir, for teaching me

  • @gerhardnowak3700
    @gerhardnowak3700 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great videos. Greetings from Germany

  • @joseluipy
    @joseluipy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Felicitaciones muy buen trabajo te lo agradezco mucho saludos desde Huaral Perú éxitos siempre

  • @joelarroza
    @joelarroza 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent video!!

  • @iambeeman1
    @iambeeman1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's pretty cool.

  • @wichelhausfab5309
    @wichelhausfab5309 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice hoodie!

  • @sblack48
    @sblack48 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A bit of heat with a torch (I mean oxy-acetylene, not a flash light!) will help shrink the radiused bit, even at full width.

  • @vorhernachher5499
    @vorhernachher5499 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello Trev,
    You are the best teacher. I love your channel, I learned so much from your work.
    The answer to your question: red steel wheels
    You are my hero for sheet metal work, do not know what you could do better on your channel.
    Greetings from Germany
    Joe

  • @82werk72
    @82werk72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    urchfab ! hell yeah

    • @chopperhehehe
      @chopperhehehe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Second that 👍👍👍😜🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿😁✌️

  • @vanceheistand7289
    @vanceheistand7289 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    White wheels, thanks for simplifying

  • @marcobegg5168
    @marcobegg5168 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant 👏

    • @trevsblog
      @trevsblog  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you 😊

  • @yar784
    @yar784 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's amazing!

  • @coherantbliss3483
    @coherantbliss3483 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    it takes more time, but to keep the bends on the straight runs tighter, I add clamps and clamp blocks holding the steel tight to the form near the edge (because your straight runs have a larger corner radius than the round corners do). It takes more time but you will get a uniform bend radius. Plus, if any part of the bended lip will be hidden you can cut/notch into the bended lip area allowing the metal to hammer easier...then just do some spot welds or stitch welds.

  • @mikep608
    @mikep608 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The templates for plywood bucks available for sale on sights like Etsey are a very great and affordable way to start metal shaping

  • @user-dc6ph1dw5o
    @user-dc6ph1dw5o 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Отличная работа!)

  • @bibblybobs1
    @bibblybobs1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Trev, awesome vid again. Wheels are off white, cream I think x

  • @ferdinandcuevas8457
    @ferdinandcuevas8457 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content Thank You please keep Us updated on Your process and Your project can't wait for You to get completed ! Thank You & Best Wishes . 🇺🇲🇵🇷🦊👍

    • @trevsblog
      @trevsblog  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s been completed for nearly three years now. I’m actually compiling the video files to make part 20, the final part. I hope to get this on TH-cam well before the year is out. Unfortunately I don’t have the free time to get on and do it. All the very best Trev 👍

  • @mariogoncalves3515
    @mariogoncalves3515 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good

  • @raulmarulanda8529
    @raulmarulanda8529 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Un autentico artesano👍

  • @throngcleaver
    @throngcleaver 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the content, including the ending reel with the great music! Of course, it's always nice to see a hot blonde with her high beams on, too. :D

  • @AMStationEngineer
    @AMStationEngineer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My 94 y/o uncle will be here tomorrow (steaming 2 bushels of Chesapeake Blue #1 Male Crabs, corn, potatoes, and beer from a friends microbrewery). He returned to work at my family's autobody shop in late 1945, after WWII (Pacific Theater). We'll kill the steamed crabs with Arthur Tussik, and polish off the brews, with you last four offerings, cheers!

  • @4speed3pedals
    @4speed3pedals 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again Trev. I love your videos. Please, don't pay too much attention to the naysayers. "Stick to your guns".

  • @georgiosivankof7071
    @georgiosivankof7071 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing. 👍👍👍 i hope you have a lot of jobs.

  • @waynegray6453
    @waynegray6453 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great skills, a true tradesmen. What gauge panel steel are you using? Cheers Wayne NZ 🇳🇿

  • @THEBULK1023
    @THEBULK1023 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks

  • @perr1don
    @perr1don 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Genius

  • @OO-nd2kn
    @OO-nd2kn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guys got my dads hair!

  • @abubakarmdharun226
    @abubakarmdharun226 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absalute enjoy watching the whole video...more&more input came in my head...
    And i must let u know this....
    "Your finishing is * SUPERBBBB*
    TQ for waddever it is...
    &
    WISH IM THE ONE WHOM CUD BE AMONG D'OWNER of THAT ..
    BBB YOU T FULLL HAMMERRR
    👍💘💞💕💖

  • @satarbhatti759
    @satarbhatti759 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good

  • @mickholgate3347
    @mickholgate3347 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic vid Trev, would love to win one of your hammers, might get me doing a better job...lol

  • @antoniocesarbarbosasilvaba1709
    @antoniocesarbarbosasilvaba1709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Olá aqui e do Brasil .vídeo muito bom

  • @dacat8171
    @dacat8171 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Applause 👏🏿

  • @bibblybobs1
    @bibblybobs1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Trev, great videos mate, really good. Can I ask what you grind the welds off with? You can never see the welding after you grind, mine always seems to be visable. thanks bud

    • @trevsblog
      @trevsblog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bibblybobs1 check out my distortion control video, cheers Trev 👍

  • @bodyrepaircar9156
    @bodyrepaircar9156 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool

  • @josephcurran6510
    @josephcurran6510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good video's.Have you ever done any panels for vw beetles ?.And if you did are they up on this channel.Thanks.

    • @trevsblog
      @trevsblog  ปีที่แล้ว

      Done a bit on Porsche 911’s 👍

  • @GPZ_Biker
    @GPZ_Biker 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As someone who is absolutely new to this, are there particular hammers and dolly's I should buy. What would be the most cost effective kit to buy?

  • @000gjb
    @000gjb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, lots of food for thought. Would it have been an option to use Electrolysis rust removal on the mud catcher panel to save the panel as opposed to making a new panel or was the original too porous to keep? Another tool to use I found on the internet, which is available commercially, was a converted pneumatic aircraft riveter used as a Planisher for making deep dished items. Have you used one of these? One of the projects I have is to make the primary chain cover on the engine of a 1939 600 Levis motorcycle from steel as per the original, working from photos as the bike is just so rare. Do you intend to make any videos on more complex deep drawn shapes?

    • @trevsblog
      @trevsblog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      000gjb it was way too rusty to try and save. It’s actually much quicker for me to just make a brand new one. A video I uploaded last week shows a deep shape. Cheers Trev 👍

  • @ZeroaxeSA
    @ZeroaxeSA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos. Keep up the good work (2 years late lol)
    I was wondering about the 'studio' clips at the end, was it part of a TV show?

    • @trevsblog
      @trevsblog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes there does contain some TV work. I’ve had stuff on Sky BBC and C4 I think the clip was from a show called “It’ll never work” cheers Trev 👍

    • @ZeroaxeSA
      @ZeroaxeSA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trevsblog I assume it worked then !! Hahaha!!!

  • @jackharty1751
    @jackharty1751 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What make of gun do you use for spraying 2 pack paint and what fluid tips do u recommend. Great videos by the way

    • @trevsblog
      @trevsblog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jack Harty this is a vast subject Jack and very dependant on your budget. I personally use a Iwata chrome flash AZ3 HTE-S 1.3 air cap, it’s a good gun if you’re on a budget. Another good gun would be a Devilbiss Pro, again more money. I can actually achieve a good finish with a duren/fast mover , costing around £20 but the fan is more narrow than the more expensive guns. Cheers Trev 🤩

  • @olivedrabgarage6243
    @olivedrabgarage6243 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah damn...I was getting excited that you'd show how to hammer for the step section on that front wheel mid guard Trev...but alas, you used a bead roller. I guess that means there's no way around it....we have to buy a $2,000 bead roller to make a part that has stepped sections because repro parts makers don't want to make the part for a handful of dollars. Bugger

    • @trevsblog
      @trevsblog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bead rollers can be very cheap to buy even the budget ones make a very good job and are nowhere in the region of 2000 dollars 👍

    • @olivedrabgarage6243
      @olivedrabgarage6243 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trevsblog in Australia if you want a motorised one yes, they start at $2,000 for a good quality one that won't flex under load mate. Sorry..should have told you my location.

  • @loftusroadmodelrailwaywort3511
    @loftusroadmodelrailwaywort3511 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Trev, awesome work mate. Would you use the same process to form chassis rails that aren't plain and straight ? Scratching my head a bit 🤔🤔

    • @trevsblog
      @trevsblog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Loftus Road Model Railway Worthing MRC yes I’m sure that you could utilise the same process, no problem but the rails may have to be jointed differently than they were originally. Cheers Trev 👍

    • @loftusroadmodelrailwaywort3511
      @loftusroadmodelrailwaywort3511 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanx 👍👍👍

  • @ze_german2921
    @ze_german2921 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know your good at shaping metal when you made yourself your own personal Tin Man Figure

  • @achristiansilluminosity2596
    @achristiansilluminosity2596 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    tikkun olam brother

  • @rodmacisaac5963
    @rodmacisaac5963 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The wheels are creamy white to match the side panels on the van!

  • @marquiswinecellars
    @marquiswinecellars 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trevor, I will make a donation. Quick question, intend to teach myself how to do metal work and welding. Although I live in Canada, where do you think the best place is to source out hand tools? Many thanks

    • @trevsblog
      @trevsblog  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      John I’m not expecting a donation for helping you out in anyway, the donation link is for those people in a position to make one and feel that they would like to help contribute towards the channel. With regards to the hand tools then a great online resource would certainly be eBay, I have bought many secondhand and new tools from sellers that advertise on there. I’ve often travelled to auto-jumbles in the hope that I would find useful tools but I think because panel beating/ metal shaping is quite a niche interest I find that these places cater more for tools for mechanics. There are a few online companies that specialise in panel beating or auto restoration tools and you will quickly find those by entering in key words into google, just bear in mind that you will be paying premium prices for some of this equipment. Also keep in mind that some of the most useful pieces of equipment can be made from scrap items or simple plywood. It’s very much a craft that relies as much on your own initiative as it does the tools that you use. Happy new year Trev👍

  • @jord001
    @jord001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Trev, Can a larger lip be created? I would like to recreate a silencer on my vintage Honda by using a wooden form and making it in 2 halves but they would need to be about an inch deep as the silencer is about 2 inch deep.

    • @trevsblog
      @trevsblog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lee Jordan it depends on the radius the tighter the radius the harder it is. Just try it out perhaps get some really big g clamps and put loads of pressure on. Cheers Trev 👍

  • @SmietanDH
    @SmietanDH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn ! You Are The best! Thx for A lot of informations! Please Tell me one, you work with on 1 mm tin or 0.8 ?? Dc01 or dc03 ?

    • @trevsblog
      @trevsblog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SmietanaDH 0.9mm cold rolled mild steel. 👍

    • @SmietanDH
      @SmietanDH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trevsblog thx! I work on 1 mm DC01 cold rolled . I try to 0.9mm . Greetings from Poland ;)

  • @jameswagner3685
    @jameswagner3685 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am preparing 1937 Packard rust pitted parts for paint. I have sandblasted and now ready to prep for primer. I would like to kill the rust in the pits of the metal. I was told not to use Ospho because of the reaction through the Epoxy Primer. What do you use? What should I use and what is the procedure if Ospho is used so that the Ospho is neutralized.

    • @trevsblog
      @trevsblog  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      James wagner sorry for the late reply. It depends how bad the rust is... if you put epoxy over the top and it successfully seals well to the metal you will have isolated the oxygen to the open surface stopping rust from continuing to form. Think about a fire burning? It needs heat, fuel and oxygen to continue burning, if you take one of these requirements away it will stop burning. Cheers Trev 👍

  • @THIRSTYGUMS
    @THIRSTYGUMS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Trev's Blog why do you not nip out little triangles from the curved lip edge and weld back up?

    • @trevsblog
      @trevsblog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jamie Thompson it’s all about finesse. It’s always preferable to make a panel with the least amounts of joints and welding, as these processes contribute to premature corrosion issues, heat distortion etc. Once you have mastered the skill it is no more time consuming than cutting and welding. Cheers Trev 👍

    • @THIRSTYGUMS
      @THIRSTYGUMS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trevsblog right right t makes sense, I'm just starting out , great videos watch every one!