Karl as always your videos are not only instructive but encouraging for armatures like myself to stop watching and start working! Masterful and artistry in the same bite.
Excellent video, I do curved flanges with copper and came to the same conclusion that using wood blocks gives me the cleanest results especially with thin materials like copper, this video has been a great teaching tool .
hell yea ! hammer forming with mdf is definitely the way I would go with this one just because you also get to sandwich it and keep it flat and not worry about it warping much . Great videos keep em coming !
I have watched so many of your videos and they are just great. You show just enough to get me pointed in the right direction. I just re-watched this video as I came to a part for my 49 F1 that I needed a curved flange on. Thanks so much for your video library!
Loved the video, have to agree with you there, hammer forming is better, the more you use your hammers the more skills you will have for other usages in bodywork. I'm convinced that you have to learn how the tool works from feeling. Understanding each tool and their little quirks is essential to your work😊👍❤️
Thanks for explaining everything so well. At 67 I’m working on my 35 ford and you show us how to do panel shaping and repaid easily and quickly. Thanks again.
Thanks for the best tutorial on metal working I’ve seen. The videos are really good and the narrative top notch, explaining what happens and why at every step. Really, really appreciated.
Definitely helpful. Looking into making some fender flares using hammer forming process. Thanks for taking the time to make this video, it is definitely appreciated.
Thanks for sharing, Karl! That was very well presented! It's interesting to learn different solutions to attaining the same goal! I don't have a bead-roller (yet!) but I've got wood, hammers, and plenty of patience! This student is ready! Enjoy your weekend! Be safe!
Ive been doing body repair for 15 years now. Your fabrication skills are amazing. Im not sure if youve mentioned this but your glancing/ sedeways hammer strokes are a kind of shrink/expand technique. I would love to make a living doing what your doing. But in the united kingdom not meny people care about custom work. Im learning alot. 👍
This was a great tuition video….. I tried it on an involute shape …… first time and it turned out really well….I was very pleased …. Now I’ll prepare the final shape and do the real one …. Many thanks
My favorite is hammer forming - especially if you have a bunch of repetitive parts. I've never personally had shrinkers or stretchers but the times I've used them they're great too but I always seem to fall back to hammer forming. I just made a battery tray for my '68 Bronco project! Thanks for the video!
Always fun trying to hold multiple pieces together until you get a clamp on them. Had good luck using some double sided tape. Don't need a lot, just a couple pieces. Works on wood, metal, plastic etc. You can adjust a bit before final clamping or fastening.
Thanks for the lesson Sensei. I have to make a 35 degree flange for a wheel arch repair on my 55 VW. I think this hammer method is just the ticket. Now I have to figure out how to make the correct angle for the flange to match but this points me in the right direction
I love your videos. I'm 65 - about to retire - and have always dreamed of working on a custom car. It's a little late to start, but your videos really give me hope that I can have fun and do more fabrication than I thought possible. Thanks!
Excellent work,i to would go the hammer forming way,and i'm glad you showed to hammer gently when doing so,as the metal has a habit of creeping up from the blocks/forms etc,hence the extra clamps,oh,and congrats to Joey
Another amazing video! Great job you two! Karl you have an incredible way of explaining what you are doing and your techniques! I like how you keep it simple! Love the content!
Thanks Karl, after watching your vids, I am actually trying what you show on my own project car . Thanks you, and I'll keep watching and learning! You instruction are si simple and well explained....
Thank you very much. I tried hammer forming because of your videos and it worked really well the first time because you are a great teacher. I also appreciate the way you Praise a tool (the makita shears) that you are not sponsored from. I hate watching videos that they are sponsored so have to praise the tool, I prefer the honesty approach. Keep at it, I’m learning so much from you (just wish I was as young as you) haha
We have A bead roller at work and we have a back gauge to keep the metal consistently at the desired bend ! You might want to make one adjustable for yourself 👍🏻 great video
I tried firm ng over a 1" thick wood form years ago. Now don't laugh: I had no TH-cam tutorials then(late 90's) so when the flange bucked,I cut " darts" out and hammered it down,then mugging in the slits. End result was leaking seams everywhere...pinholes,bad fit. Your videos make sense out of it. You rock.
First class tutorial. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I make gates, railings, decorative grilles etc and am aware it's knowing what you can get away with than following the in crowd. Keep up the great videos.
Excellent info! I always thought the outside long arch flange would have to stretch and the inside arch flange would have to shrink. I’m still learning and you always teach me something in every video! Thanks man! 🙏
Your Skills Make All Your Videos Appear Very Easy. Your Explanations Step by Step Really Help Everyone To Understand What Is Really Happening With The Panels/Pieces You Are Fabbing. Great Video As Always. I Always Enjoy Your Videos- Great Camera Person!!
Just wanted to comment on your way of cutting the metal.. I've never seen anybody else do it this way in 30 plus years other than me and you! This is mind blowing to me lmao! Good stuff!
Second ))) Want to say hello and respect , from me, I’m Russian, but long time I’m living aboard at Asia now. You have a gold hand and i have a dream meet with you and take some your classes and work with you! Metal my life too! Cheers 🍻
Another great video!!! Also my hammer forming has been getting better because of your instructions! I just need to slow down and be patient! Thank you!
Whew just made sure a like was there on every vid ha. Really enjoy your stuff! I was the son of a old school body man, a guy that used a lot of brass in cars. Always watching as a kid you have been like being able to watch him but now he is explaining it to me. Thanks we pick up on alot of stuff but we don't really know what we don't know? You have a great attitude and if you stay the course, your headed in the right direction. Thanks
Quick tip, if you are doing buck work or form work like this. If your setup is not sufficient enough lto hold the sheet metal rigid to prevent slippage, get some emery cloth or sand paper (100-320 grit), use some contact cement on both the paper and the buck/form sides that contact the sheetmetal and allow the glue to setup for a good half hour. The abrasive of the sand paper will increase the friction much more and lessen the chances of the metal slipping out of place.
awesome! youve got the best metal work ive ever seen by far, very inspiring. this video showed exactly what i wanted to know, how to flange around the inside of a curved piece. ill be doing the corner of my trunks rain gutter toward the back because theyre a little rotted out so this is going to be fun. id love to see you do one of those in a video so i can see how the master does it. thanks for the vid and teachings!
12:04 wen you were doing the shrink you could literally watch the folded side thicken and come together … I’ve done it before but to sit and watch it actually happen that’s pretty cool
Hi Karl, just a tip when it comes to hammer forming my friend. I have been doing this stuff for years and you are pretty close, you need to make your top and bottom forms exactly the same size. Go back through and watch your video and you will see when you have hammered your edge over on inner and outer edges, it will leave a bubbled ridge against the sandwich edges as your top form falls short from holding it at the break point of the hammer fold. I will be in touch in the near future via email once you have settled more in the shop to talk Lincoln Zephyrs buddy. Kenny from Australia. 🇦🇺
Great video Karl, and even better videography Christina. The video angle showing the metal being shrunk ( back side ) best I have seen. I find the MDF method best if you are needing accuracy in your panel. I use double stick tape and clamps to keep the metal from moving between the hammer form. makes it easy to reposition the clamps as you work around the panel. Very thankful this Thanksgiving for your videos. Frank
Hi Karl, I did like this video but, I'm allways suprised that no one ever shows just tipping a flange with a hammer and dolly. when I first got started in working in a rust repair shop in the mid west rust belt I quickly learned that in a collision that if there wasn't anything to weld the new part to you either made one if it wasn't available or waited. I quickly learned how to make panels with this method back in the early 80]s when NO ONE shared any secrets of metal work with any body. I also learned with making quarter panel parts like the dogleg and the inner dogleg that without a hammerform because we didn't have a schrinker or stretcher ( which I had never been introduced to before) that hammer forming was the only way to go. I believe that with this simple forming technique that not only does it do both sides that you will use this same technique ob all kinds of cars so if you're starting out and making forms buy decent quality plywood because it will get used a lot. Thanks for the video !
Brilliant! Love your dedication to using simple tools that don't require huge investments. Would relief holes at the end if the slits help ? Maybe #30, just enough to provide a clean radius at the end of the slit. Im surprised how great it came out there without cracking there. The carpet tools was epic cool!
Love the video, my personal preference would be if making a number of identical flanges (or left & right handed parts) I'd use a form + hammer, also when the flange edge is going to be very visible. For speed and my typical 'one off repairs' tend to roll edges combined with shrink and stretching as required, often when examining the original (corroded!) manufacturers part (UK cars!) 'Z creases' are visible on the parts of the vehicle the owner does not normally see! Looking forward to your next video 😎
great video. I'm not a fabricator, but I have done a little body repair, very little, and this was a great learning video for me. I caught the one you done on the damaged hood and how to attack a dent and smooth it out properly. great techniques!
Another great learning experience to be stored in my memory bank. To bad at 77 bank is quite full, but will be able to pass on knowledge to someone younger. Tks again Karl
I wish I had known about yours and Tony’s channels before I started on my wife’s wrangler project 2 years ago. A lot of my bodywork would have looked a lot cleaner.
Once you understand shrinking and stretching metal shaping makes a heck of a lot more sense. You can also do the flanges just hammer and dolly although I must admit I find the ones where you need to shrink much easier than the ones you have to stretch. My mentor always called the wrinkles 'puckers'. What I find works for me is using something like a tipping die, a home made 3mm wide metal disc with a radiused edge, on the bead roller to put the break line in then hammer and dolly from there because it will bend on the brake. I haven't developed enough skill to break freehand just over a dolly. I've also used a slotted steel rod or even pliers to hand bend the flanges up then finishing with hammer and dolly.Lots of different ways to do things one you understand what it is you need to actually do to the metal I guess.
Great 👍 video, you make it easier to understand how metal can move by using different methods and end up with the same result, also, great camera work, thanks Kristen 😊
Fantastic video, I was having an issue just yesterday tipping a flange with the bead roller and trying to get it to shrink, I ended up giving up and making relief cuts, repair panel was still functional but next time I know what to do
Karl as always your videos are not only instructive but encouraging for armatures like myself to stop watching and start working! Masterful and artistry in the same bite.
Excellent video, I do curved flanges with copper and came to the same conclusion that using wood blocks gives me the cleanest results especially with thin materials like copper, this video has been a great teaching tool .
hell yea ! hammer forming with mdf is definitely the way I would go with this one just because you also get to sandwich it and keep it flat and not worry about it warping much . Great videos keep em coming !
Congratulations on winning the hammer!
Yeah it’s definitely my go to !
I have watched so many of your videos and they are just great. You show just enough to get me pointed in the right direction. I just re-watched this video as I came to a part for my 49 F1 that I needed a curved flange on. Thanks so much for your video library!
Hey, that was very interesting. Nicely taught to all of us that needed to know. See you soon.
Be careful and safe.
your best video yet.Showing how two different methods effect the work piece differently and how to overcome the issues with each method
Great way to show how shrinking and stretching changes the form and how to remedy those changes.
Thank you. Be well and stay safe. UK.
Loved the video, have to agree with you there, hammer forming is better, the more you use your hammers the more skills you will have for other usages in bodywork. I'm convinced that you have to learn how the tool works from feeling. Understanding each tool and their little quirks is essential to your work😊👍❤️
100% metalwork is a journey, takes time to get the 'feel' for it
Absolutely agreed!
YOU ARE AN AMAZING PERSON.THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR EDUCATIONAL VIDEOS.GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS.
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Thanks for explaining everything so well. At 67 I’m working on my 35 ford and you show us how to do panel shaping and repaid easily and quickly. Thanks again.
Thanks for the best tutorial on metal working I’ve seen. The videos are really good and the narrative top notch, explaining what happens and why at every step. Really, really appreciated.
Thank you. Very informative video. I just finished welding two curved flanges on my project. Really like these methods a lot.
Definitely helpful. Looking into making some fender flares using hammer forming process. Thanks for taking the time to make this video, it is definitely appreciated.
That’s so great to hear thank you!
Thanks for sharing, Karl! That was very well presented! It's interesting to learn different solutions to attaining the same goal! I don't have a bead-roller (yet!) but I've got wood, hammers, and plenty of patience! This student is ready! Enjoy your weekend! Be safe!
Goodonya for updating your customers on the planishing hammers. Communication is key! Right on Joey Chooch!
Thank you! You are a natural teacher and more importantly, you know your stuff!
Ive been doing body repair for 15 years now. Your fabrication skills are amazing. Im not sure if youve mentioned this but your glancing/ sedeways hammer strokes are a kind of shrink/expand technique. I would love to make a living doing what your doing. But in the united kingdom not meny people care about custom work. Im learning alot. 👍
This was a great tuition video….. I tried it on an involute shape …… first time and it turned out really well….I was very pleased …. Now I’ll prepare the final shape and do the real one …. Many thanks
My favorite is hammer forming - especially if you have a bunch of repetitive parts. I've never personally had shrinkers or stretchers but the times I've used them they're great too but I always seem to fall back to hammer forming. I just made a battery tray for my '68 Bronco project! Thanks for the video!
Yeah me too Rob! I really like hammer forming!
Always fun trying to hold multiple pieces together until you get a clamp on them. Had good luck using some double sided tape. Don't need a lot, just a couple pieces. Works on wood, metal, plastic etc. You can adjust a bit before final clamping or fastening.
great instructional video for every one that does sheet metal work or wants to do sheet metal work...
Thanks for the lesson Sensei. I have to make a 35 degree flange for a wheel arch repair on my 55 VW. I think this hammer method is just the ticket. Now I have to figure out how to make the correct angle for the flange to match but this points me in the right direction
I love your videos. I'm 65 - about to retire - and have always dreamed of working on a custom car. It's a little late to start, but your videos really give me hope that I can have fun and do more fabrication than I thought possible. Thanks!
You’re so welcome man! Give it a go! Plenty of info and support out there
What a great educational video this was. Following your channel religiously at this point :D
Excellent work,i to would go the hammer forming way,and i'm glad you showed to hammer gently when doing so,as the metal has a habit of creeping up from the blocks/forms etc,hence the extra clamps,oh,and congrats to Joey
Another amazing video! Great job you two!
Karl you have an incredible way of explaining what you are doing and your techniques!
I like how you keep it simple!
Love the content!
Thanks Karl, after watching your vids, I am actually trying what you show on my own project car . Thanks you, and I'll keep watching and learning! You instruction are si simple and well explained....
Thank you very much. I tried hammer forming because of your videos and it worked really well the first time because you are a great teacher.
I also appreciate the way you Praise a tool (the makita shears) that you are not sponsored from. I hate watching videos that they are sponsored so have to praise the tool, I prefer the honesty approach.
Keep at it, I’m learning so much from you (just wish I was as young as you) haha
Thanks very much Shaun!
We have A bead roller at work and we have a back gauge to keep the metal consistently at the desired bend ! You might want to make one adjustable for yourself 👍🏻 great video
Incredible free hand sketching and kuting!
Nice job showing us how you use MDF and Bead Roller for Forming curves in sheet metal Karl! Thank you.
This video is exactly what I needed to see and hear for forming some patch panels. You’re the man!
I tried firm ng over a 1" thick wood form years ago. Now don't laugh: I had no TH-cam tutorials then(late 90's) so when the flange bucked,I cut " darts" out and hammered it down,then mugging in the slits. End result was leaking seams everywhere...pinholes,bad fit. Your videos make sense out of it. You rock.
Nicely done. Bending round the former seems to be the go for an armature. 👍😊
Great video Karl. You are a born teacher.
Bending round the former seems the way to go for me with not having a machine and you have shown the results can be just as good
Great job Karl 😁😁🤘🤘
I think the results are even better. You can control warping of the part and don’t need to finish the edges as much.
So much knowledge in such a young mind. I learn so much from you. Thank you.
First class tutorial. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I make gates, railings, decorative grilles etc and am aware it's knowing what you can get away with than following the in crowd. Keep up the great videos.
Man I pray I get that, I just started sheet metal work because of this show and it would help out a lot
Excellent info! I always thought the outside long arch flange would have to stretch and the inside arch flange would have to shrink. I’m still learning and you always teach me something in every video! Thanks man! 🙏
Your Skills Make All Your Videos Appear Very Easy.
Your Explanations Step by Step Really Help Everyone To Understand What Is Really Happening With The Panels/Pieces You Are Fabbing. Great Video As Always. I Always Enjoy Your Videos- Great Camera Person!!
Great instructor!!!!!
MDF that really surprised me. I always thought I needed a harder type of wood. Thanks, I'll try that.
Just wanted to comment on your way of cutting the metal.. I've never seen anybody else do it this way in 30 plus years other than me and you! This is mind blowing to me lmao! Good stuff!
Great demonstration of alternative methods. Very instructive for us amateurs in metal shaping. Cheers👍 🇦🇺
Second ))) Want to say hello and respect , from me, I’m Russian, but long time I’m living aboard at Asia now. You have a gold hand and i have a dream meet with you and take some your classes and work with you! Metal my life too! Cheers 🍻
Привет, тоже железо выгибаешь ?
Куй железо 😁
Thanks for working with steel and thank you for your time.
Great instruction. I always like the option of multiple ways to make the same thing.
Another great video!!! Also my hammer forming has been getting better because of your instructions! I just need to slow down and be patient! Thank you!
Awesome Jim I’m glad to hear it! Thanks for watching
You make it look easy enough for a jackleg like me to try it. Thanks for the info and tips. Really enjoying your channel.
Thanks for the vids! I like how you take the time to explain things. I always learn something. Keep the coming!
Perfect demonstration on both processes. Very helpful. Cheer mate. Bugger I didn’t win the hammer.
i love watching your shows ive been doing this a long time i learn tips and tricks every show thanks man
Whew just made sure a like was there on every vid ha. Really enjoy your stuff! I was the son of a old school body man, a guy that used a lot of brass in cars. Always watching as a kid you have been like being able to watch him but now he is explaining it to me. Thanks we pick up on alot of stuff but we don't really know what we don't know? You have a great attitude and if you stay the course, your headed in the right direction. Thanks
Thanks mark!!!
Quick tip, if you are doing buck work or form work like this. If your setup is not sufficient enough lto hold the sheet metal rigid to prevent slippage, get some emery cloth or sand paper (100-320 grit), use some contact cement on both the paper and the buck/form sides that contact the sheetmetal and allow the glue to setup for a good half hour. The abrasive of the sand paper will increase the friction much more and lessen the chances of the metal slipping out of place.
Thank you very much! Sounds like a really great tip!
awesome! youve got the best metal work ive ever seen by far, very inspiring. this video showed exactly what i wanted to know, how to flange around the inside of a curved piece. ill be doing the corner of my trunks rain gutter toward the back because theyre a little rotted out so this is going to be fun. id love to see you do one of those in a video so i can see how the master does it. thanks for the vid and teachings!
Great video. I think the hammer forming turned out a nicer piece. Thanks for the education
12:04 wen you were doing the shrink you could literally watch the folded side thicken and come together … I’ve done it before but to sit and watch it actually happen that’s pretty cool
Love it! I can not wait to start trying these techniques myself!
Another great teaching video, thank you!
Timely video. I have some trim that I was thinking about how to form. Got some good ideas, now, thanks.
Way to go, Joey!
Man I can watch your videos all day, I love how you teach bro. Great f$@king work you rock man!!
Hi Karl, just a tip when it comes to hammer forming my friend. I have been doing this stuff for years and you are pretty close, you need to make your top and bottom forms exactly the same size. Go back through and watch your video and you will see when you have hammered your edge over on inner and outer edges, it will leave a bubbled ridge against the sandwich edges as your top form falls short from holding it at the break point of the hammer fold. I will be in touch in the near future via email once you have settled more in the shop to talk Lincoln Zephyrs buddy. Kenny from Australia. 🇦🇺
congrats joey.
This is a very good video. 👍 I learn so much and have attempted this and did a really good job. You are the best. Keep the videos coming.
Great video Karl, and even better videography Christina. The video angle showing the metal being shrunk ( back side ) best I have seen. I find the MDF method best if you are needing accuracy in your panel. I use double stick tape and clamps to keep the metal from moving between the hammer form. makes it easy to reposition the clamps as you work around the panel. Very thankful this Thanksgiving for your videos. Frank
Hi Karl, I did like this video but, I'm allways suprised that no one ever shows just tipping a flange with a hammer and dolly. when I first got started in working in a rust repair shop in the mid west rust belt I quickly learned that in a collision that if there wasn't anything to weld the new part to you either made one if it wasn't available or waited. I quickly learned how to make panels with this method back in the early 80]s when NO ONE shared any secrets of metal work with any body. I also learned with making quarter panel parts like the dogleg and the inner dogleg that without a hammerform because we didn't have a schrinker or stretcher ( which I had never been introduced to before) that hammer forming was the only way to go. I believe that with this simple forming technique that not only does it do both sides that you will use this same technique ob all kinds of cars so if you're starting out and making forms buy decent quality plywood because it will get used a lot. Thanks for the video !
It’s a great idea for a future video! Thanks for the suggestion!
Brilliant! Love your dedication to using simple tools that don't require huge investments. Would relief holes at the end if the slits help ? Maybe #30, just enough to provide a clean radius at the end of the slit. Im surprised how great it came out there without cracking there.
The carpet tools was epic cool!
Very informative video for those of us that are new to metal forming. 😀
Love the video, my personal preference would be if making a number of identical flanges (or left & right handed parts) I'd use a form + hammer, also when the flange edge is going to be very visible. For speed and my typical 'one off repairs' tend to roll edges combined with shrink and stretching as required, often when examining the original (corroded!) manufacturers part (UK cars!) 'Z creases' are visible on the parts of the vehicle the owner does not normally see! Looking forward to your next video 😎
Great video, I have formed it both ways as well. Try using a hard rubber lower die in the bead roller. It works great!!!
great video. I'm not a fabricator, but I have done a little body repair, very little, and this was a great learning video for me. I caught the one you done on the damaged hood and how to attack a dent and smooth it out properly. great techniques!
Great comparison Karl 👍
Cheers Aaron 🍻
Great tip on the shear! I'll be doing that tomorrow
Another great learning experience to be stored in my memory bank. To bad at 77 bank is quite full, but will be able to pass on knowledge to someone younger. Tks again Karl
Nice , the hammer forming looked easier , , stay safe my friend
I wish I had known about yours and Tony’s channels before I started on my wife’s wrangler project 2 years ago. A lot of my bodywork would have looked a lot cleaner.
Once you understand shrinking and stretching metal shaping makes a heck of a lot more sense. You can also do the flanges just hammer and dolly although I must admit I find the ones where you need to shrink much easier than the ones you have to stretch. My mentor always called the wrinkles 'puckers'. What I find works for me is using something like a tipping die, a home made 3mm wide metal disc with a radiused edge, on the bead roller to put the break line in then hammer and dolly from there because it will bend on the brake. I haven't developed enough skill to break freehand just over a dolly. I've also used a slotted steel rod or even pliers to hand bend the flanges up then finishing with hammer and dolly.Lots of different ways to do things one you understand what it is you need to actually do to the metal I guess.
Hi from Argentina!! Hammer forming Is very goog for me!!!
Great 👍 video, you make it easier to understand how metal can move by using different methods and end up with the same result, also, great camera work, thanks Kristen 😊
Awesome tips !!! Thanks again for another great video.
Hey Karl, good to see your shop has dried out👍👍👍
Great video, useful to me for my small projects. Yes, Mr. Fisher, please always let us know what gauge sheet metal you use in your videos!
Love the way you work and the way you explain what you are doing. Keep it up!
Fantastic video, I was having an issue just yesterday tipping a flange with the bead roller and trying to get it to shrink, I ended up giving up and making relief cuts, repair panel was still functional but next time I know what to do
Great tutorial. Thanx. Greetings from Finland.
Great video, excellent camera work Christina!
Another great lesson, thanx mate. Ive got just the job for it.
Another awesome vid Karl, greetings from Australia mate!
Hi.just started watching now couple days.awesum stuff.keep up the good video.Good bless for helping guys that dnt have expensive tools .
I’ve restored a few air boxes that required compound shrink/stretch thought lol. Great show 😎🍻
always watching your videos from Argentina, greetings
dude I wish I stubbled into you years ago, what a legend
We haven’t been on here a year yet! Thanks so much Tim glad you’re enjoying it
You call your dolly's stained, I call them well used. Fantastic information yet again, I await the next video.
Lol they got wet in the move haha
You're an awesome teacher. Great work
I have been welding them on for ever. Thanks
I still do sometimes lol 😆
This guy is nuts.... he makes from nothing.... everything.... he,s a genious
👍🏻Thanks for the 101 lessons with working with metal. Awesome job!!!
Have a good Thanksgiving 🦃
I cant help but think all my questions about this last weekend has inspired this video lol
Hahaha yea probably! 🙏🙏🙏😆
Thanks for the solid videos!