Shootout: Nissan 370Z Nismo vs. Subaru WRX STI are red-hot track toys
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- Nissan's low-slung sports coupe and Subaru's hottest sport sedan battle for superiority. Which performance model is the best on the road and on the track?
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3.5? Seriously?
Video was edited and not even corrected?
Ahmed360 its right there in the name of the car
Ahmed360 who cares its still slowww
Who cares its still slow
It has a VQ37VHR which is 3.7L.
Wrong it was released in 2008 and it has a 3.7L 🙄
3.7 ! its a 3.7 liter. hence the name 370. All credibility went out the window soon as he said 3.5. smh
Just a slip of tongue
Maybe he confused it with the horsepower
How the FUCK do people not know what engine is in a 370z where the fuck and how do these people get hired? HIRE ME
P.S. I'll know more than the person hiring me, any car...... 😁
Dino Alexander lol EXACTLY!! What the frick 3.7 god 🙄
wow someone on youtube that thinks they know everything never seen that before...
Richard P lol! Not literal homie. But seriously, where do they hire these people? What is the interview like lol
just like any corporation out there, you just have to know someone on the inside even if you don't know shit about cars. He says more power but didn't even give horsepower figures,just the wrong engine displacement. He's a joke.
the moment he said 3.5l in 370z I stop watching and ended my life wtf
3.5? lol, there goes any luck for this channel. RIP Road Show
latino914 I like this comment
Aret Zelli there's a button for that...
@@frankly2677 this made me laugh
starting to wonder if my 350z really a 3.3,....
lol i didnt know the started putting 350z motors into 370's
AllFromA_Phone I didn't know pizza places made motors either
I didn't know the 370z shits all over the Impreza o wait excuse me STI eco box, o wait I did lmao!! The STI is trash
Carl Manney Yeah, was kinda thinking the same.
😂😂😂
Impreza is a nice rally car but the Z is a way better looking and handling car and is a true sports car not a family car.
"3.5 V6"
"I didn't have time to look up the specs"
Don't forget the hellcat review
"Automatics go with muscle cars like pb&j"
You're ignorant AF
Learning2Smile Dude I died reading that
370 is from 2009 and the engine is a 3.7.
David Sandoval these guys are jokes. I love that they are evaluating practicality in a rwd sports coupe vs awd sedan.
Blake Swan how many times are you going to repeat yourself man.
Peter Reifenstein a bunch. this was horrible
David Sandoval
Flame Beats out of date??? the car can rev match for you, you call that out of date??
the girl in the green sweater should get her facts straight
At least when you add more power to both cars the Subaru will drive straighter on the line
That would be a vq37 not a vq35. hence the 370z moniker, therefore a 3.7 liter v6 guys.
This feels so fake and the conversations seem so forced. I get it's a show, but they're horrible hosts and don't even seem remotely passionate about cars.
They messed up after getting changing Cnet on Cars and mostly because Brian Cooley was a league of his own.
fanousontheloose - Cone on, the two were made for each other. Their joy of Z.
fanousontheloose it is fake, my stock 370z beats stock STI's in the quarter mile all day, there are also tons of videos here on TH-cam which show the base 370z beats the new STI's
fanousontheloose , because of the black guy?
Emery Lindeman I’m sure it’s just the driver mod. Try and beat a automatic subie on the strip. I dare you😂
Curious. In a car review how does one get the motor from the car being reviewed wrong? Definitely not a 3.5. It's a 370z not a 350z. 3.7 v6 just like mine .
Hydraulic power steering? I'm sold.
Lmao both cars have hydraulic power steering 😂😂😂
Wow what a big fuck up, a 370Z wit a 3.5 really, nothing but hired help with no knowledge of cars smh.
Dude, it is 3.7. How can he got that wrong when the car's name is 370z? And 370 means 3.7L not 370 hp. And I found it stupid to spend that much time to talk about the cargo space in the Z. And really, the Z should be compare with Mustang and Camaro both V6, not a 4 door, AWD, 4 cylinder turbo car.
Why shouldn't it be compared to the Subaru? You think cvt give the mustang & Camaro competition to me the cvt slow but higher rev then it picks up speed
I stopped watching the video as soon as I heard him fuck up the engine size. do your research before making a video. can't take anything they say seriously now.
Have to agree. I can understand the voice may be hard to edit, but at least put a text banner making the correction like every other video would have done. With today's market, there's no reason for anyone to tolerate 4th grader video production standards.
Aaron Berg lol you don't need to do research for that, it's in the name lol
Gin356a I know right? haha
Very nicely made video!! Great quality. 😊
how you geT the displacement wrong!?! COOLEY SLAP THESE FOOLS!
I don’t care, z for me!
3.7L V6 *
No no no no. He said three point fife. Fife is lisp for seven.
okay you'll know that this will suck because the guy can't even get the displacement right, wtf???? let me work for you guys instead lol
okay so let's start off the370z started in 2009 not 2010. The amount of room back there can fit you up to to u.s. Navy Sea bags to carry-ons three pillows and my wife's makeup bag for a two-week trip across the country which was very comfortable and averaged out to be 28 miles to the gallon at 80 miles an hour on the interstate.
A friend of mine had a 370z throughout college and we would occasionally fit a third person in the back. Great car.
It actually started in 2008, the roadster 2009.
@@_c_a_b_1997 in America where the basis of this conversation started it came in 2009. The Japanese model went on sale December 1, 2008. Hardly a difference to mention to be honest.
How did you guys come up with that match up? Was it based on Price? Just curious, seemed like an odd comparison.
Agreed each car has a totally different approach to driving than the other, I still found the comparison interesting however.
the nissan atleast here in sweden is way more expensive, its 15000$ more than a standard wrx sti. this is a ridiculous comparison and it shouldnt have happened, the sti is a pure rally car and the 370z is a sports car
its 10kaud more in Australia the Nismo over a base sti
I searched it up specifically so I guess it’s not to random it has similar specs and a similar price.
@@coopsnz1 Pretty much idental pricing between the Nismo 370 and the Spec R STi
IF Nissan would Boost the Z it would be a different story. Stupid Nissan, hurry up and catch up to Infiniti!
Nissan owns Infiniti so it's a matter of time, they just can't release it the same time because it would steal sales from the Q50/Q60.
+BigHeadClan and most at that point would rather buy a Z over the flagship GTR
Well the GTR competes in a totally different class and is 3x the cost of a new Z so I'm not sure what point your trying to make.
PtotheHILIP same company dumb ass !
+BigHeadClan point is more would buy a Z over the GTR? since a stock z can be boosted to about 600 on stock internals while keeping the 6 speed many wished the gtr offered
All wheel drive cars get good numbers only because of their launches.But in the real world it actually accelerates slower
Whether you see inclement weather or not, I believe the Subaru is the better choice for everyday use. This is due to the 4 doors(vs 2) meaning it can carry more passengers comfortably, awd vs rwd(subjective). Lets not forget the safety factor, "visibility."
Let’s not forget boxter engine are trash… plus the 370z is a panty dropper
@@jagermeisterNY If you really want to talk "TRASH?" Nissan hasn't had a really iconic looking/performing car since the 30ZX. The 350, and by extension the 370 are pure trash vehicles. So yes, take your trash talkin' else where.
Love my 2017 370z sport 6 speed. Yes its outdated interior but i dont care about that stuff and its more things to fail in the long run. I like simple. This chassis is well balanced and power to weight ratio is phenomenal. And it comes stock with a forged crank and rods you can push these VQ37HR’s to 600-700 whp with no reliability issues
Seriously, he couldn't even Google the specs before the scene?
"3.5 liter" that's when I stopped watching the video
Car journalists getting the engine displacement wrong on the 370Z. Not good. Even worse to not be corrected while taping the episode.
Is rev match really for traffic?
i've owned both cars and love them both but the 370z feels more special when i drive it. the wrx sti is a great everyday car though.
paused the video to see how many people already commented about it being a 3.7 not a 3.5
This guy is stupid! The displacement is in the name of the car! SMH 😡
Bit of an odd comparison but as they said "different cars for different styles" so they aren't really great to compare but both are great bang for the buck. That said Nissan should
be showing off the new Z in 2017, which should be a full refresh and include the new 400hp motor found in the Q50.
BigHeadClan the STI is due for a new motor as well.
Oh that's exciting, I hope they toss a detuned version at the BRZ then. :)
not going to happen LMFAO
Probably not but another 40-50hp is really all the BRZ needs.
This didn't age well. Z in 2020 and well, no STI lol
So love their tense expression when they are sitting in each other cars, probably didn't expect the other to drive that fast?
Honestly, fire Antuan. The sheer disregard of his job is apparent here. He stated himself that he didn't have time to look up the specs however he knew that it had 350 HP and 260-something lb-ft. However, he didn't take the extra second to see that it was a 3.7L engine, not a 3.5L. That's ridiculous. You on purpose created this off-shoot channel for all things about cars and he states himself that he can't be bothered to spend 5 seconds to get true information. He's a journalist, that's what journalists do. I would understand if it was something obscure or unknown. But the 370Z has been out for the better half of a decade now and it's been a 3.7L engine ever since it got the 370 name. CNET on Cars is going downhill fast. Nothing bothers me more when I see a lazy reporter publishing information that is readily accessible to literally anyone. Type in "2017 370Z Nismo" and the first result on google is a small specs sheet where engine displacement is one of the first points. Antuan, you need to be ashamed of yourself for calling yourself a journalist and publishing crap like this. If you're going to publish information, double check your facts and statements. Or at the very least take 3 seconds to find the basic facts. Honestly, I'm disgusted by this. CNET an Cooley, take care of this joke of a reporter. Emme is ok thus far, maybe a little less forced dialogue would go a long way for her
___ ___ i definitely agree with you. Antuon is a generic reviewer, not car guy. If he gets basic specs wrong on cars, how can viewers put confidence in the rest of his review of the car? CNET should be hiring journalists that genuinely have a passion for cars if they are going to review them for a living. BRING BACK COOLEY
___ ___ couldnt agree more! Thought the exact same. Lost interest after he didnt even know what he was driving nor cared to look.
I definitely felt like this is a BS review comparison of the nismo and sti. I own a 2017 nismo and 2015 sti, I can tell you 100% of out factory the nismo is faster than the sti, not from a dig but it will creep up and pull away from the sti. Anyone that owns a sti can agree that after a few hard pulls on the sti, it starts losing power because that car starts heating up like a mf.
Let's review and compare these two sports cars!!! What should we talk about? Hmmm.. How is the storage and fuel economy?
It's a 370Z because of the displacement not the horsepower!! Jesus, how did these guys get their jobs?!?
Interesting, I thought the 370s had 3.7L engines. Was this a mistake missed in editing or is there a 350 engine in the Nismo for some reason?
From California and just getting into performance driving. Any dudes out there that know where I can find some roads like these.
Earned a sub. +like! Love it!
Why does Nissan take forever to redesign their sports cars?
Because they had to give Infiniti the Q60 first, they should show off their new car in 2017.... I hope.
If you do some research you will find the secret ... Nissan's CEO wants to have the highest profit margin in the industry while selling the most. Basically they want to maximize profits.
Yep and that means making a solid offering in every niche. Pretty sure making as much money as possible is every companies goal though.
BigHeadClan yeah that is true. But, the way nissan is doing it they are doing it wrong. That is what gm and ford used to do. They have learned from that.
Not necessarily the worst thing, if you look at the 2011-13 wrx vs 14/15-17..Subaru should of had more time off to redesign too.
I love the duo reviews. other than the 3.5 - 3.7 V6 mix up, keep it up Roadshow.
Is this thunderhill?
What kind of year is it
The sti
This guy knows nothing. Including how to drive apparently. I drove my Z from Seattle to Sacramento and over the 756 miles I averaged 27.3 mpg. In town I get approximately 18-20 mpg depending on how heavy I am on the throttle. They are both wonderfull cars, and I'm a fan of both. I was hoping this would result in a knowledgable comparison between the two cars. Keep the girl, she has great energy and is very knowledgeable. But I won't watch another video with this guy in it.
How do you own a 370z yet you dont know when they first came out nor what engine its got tf.
Why are we reviewing storage, gas mileage and ride quality in a NISMO tuned car?
sti is better
*3.7L
*350HP/276lb-ft
damn y'all just kept fucking up.
Someone educate this dude on the difference between a pillar bar and a strut tower bar, the 370Z does not have a "Functional strut tower bar" in the trunk!!
That moment they have the wrx beating the Z in a Drag Race, laughable to say the least. Absolutely no way the wrx could ever beat the Z.
Cyrus Cheek but it did, so?
Geoff /// M Nelson this is a staged video clearly
Cyrus Cheek Probably that shitty guy who did not even know the displacement! Probably never turned traction control off, and floored the pedal which causes massive wheels pin in the 370z. (Trust me I own one) He needs to feather the throttle and turn off TC!
Platinum I own a 2017 sti, wish I had a 370z also lol
sti 0-60 4.7 quarter mile 13.4
370z 0-60 4.9 quarter mile 13.4
Seems pretty close to me and that result is totally possible considering the sti has all wheel drive. I've owned a 2015 sti for 2 years and it's fairly snappy off the line with the short gearing
I'm not gonna freak out about the 3.7l thing like everyone else, I just wanted a direct comparison, which seems difficult when two different people are driving and comparing them. Wouldn't it make more sense to have each person drive both and then get both opinions?
Great, beautiful area, up near Carmel/Monterey CA. Great roads and always very low DA which is like getting free hp.
Great video you guys
This video lost all credibility not even 1:30 in when he said 3.5 liter twice.
What happened to that job with Brian Coolay at CNET Emme?
That's 12 minutes of my life I will never get back...
Nice video quality!
That woman looked scared shitless while the guy was driving the Z on the track.
That girl leaned when she turned 😂😂
Yeah Emme nice to see back!!!
It's a 3.7L hint it's name...370. Just wow
The flare in all the interior shots make it almost unwatchable, I think you need a hood on the gopro. Mounting it in better position, or driving the opposite direction probably would have helped too.
Awesome review, hot track cars, even hotter presenter Emme, Antuan is distinctive too.
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It’s been 4 years now, tell me your name
Who would have thought a sedan is more practical than a 2 seat coupe?! I'm shocked.
350Z had a 3.5L engine, 370z has, you guessed it, a 3.7L engine.
Assuming it's a 2016 370z Nismo edition it makes a bit more Horsepower but a bit less torque than the STI.
STI is more practical if you need space, the ride quality isn't too bad considering the handling and power.
So we saw the drag race, what about on the track?
Wait wait did he really say 3.5 😂😂😂😂 I'm dead
Why are you comparing “sports cars” to “daily drivers”? Haha I just bought a 370 nismo and it is the greatest decision I’ve ever made.
Nick Hooper Amen! same here.
Nick Hooper haha if you don’t know already they’re both considered to be “sports cars” and they can both be daily driven. Don’t get me wrong, I like the 370 but I think the wrx is a way better decision not only because it’s also a rally car but the 370 is a little outdated version of a wanna be GTR which is a real sports car😂
I also just picked up a used 370z for under 20k and it's the best car I've ever owned.
@@mattsintetos2085 which model year and is it a nismo?
@@srp770 I just sold one for $14k
As a sports car, the Z is superior. Those ppl don't know how to drive.
Herman Johnson True. The STI isn't a 'sports' car by any means... Lol
Herman Johnson if the subaru lost then that perosn wouldn't have known hiw to drive. it has all wheel drive. it should win a drag race. considering its a smaller engine missing two cylinders that the nissan has. I'd say the sti engine is more sporty.
Gavin Whiteley the Sti is a sports sedan dude, therefore it is a sports car.
Jonathan Pontel Sports cars aren't classified by their speed. A sports car is a lightweight coupe, by definition. The STI is neither lightweight or a coupe. Hell, a Miata is more of a sports car than an STI, even though it's obviously not as fast.
Gavin Whiteley I never said sport cars are classified by their speed. I said sport SEDAN... do you know what a SEDAN is? It's still a CAR, so by definition YES the Sti still is a sports sedan (sports car).
Its the Vq37* not Vq35
Heard Anttoine say 3.5L and knew he'd get mobbed for it lol
Can you guys leave cars to the big boys or professionals ?
Emme Hall is one of the 'big boy' professionals.
Sometimes flubs happen, especially when it comes to specs. Owning a car or being a fan of a car and knowing the specs of said car is one thing. It is a different animal to be given a car for 72 hours and have to fit in: driving it, understanding it, writing an article or script about it, in their case shooting the video, then possibly editing it in post after the fact if they don't have a dedicated editor, all while also likely doing re-shoots or photography for other mediums and executing on the social media aspect that doesn't tie directly back to the video itself. Once the pros get through that, they then get the keys to another car and it is rinse-repeat, thousands of cars... easy to get confused on a small number that anyone can look up on their own without the car with them. Matters a whole lot of not at all.
What matters is that they can communicate how the car feels, how it sounds, and how it performs in the moment, the things they are experiencing as the content creator, that we as the viewership are not.
Brian Cooley NEEDs to do ALL of Roadshow shows in the future. Or you know what, I think Brian Cooley needs his own TH-cam channel.
One looks like it’s made for the track the other for a good car for young person in college
Was driving an automatic transmission? How can you compare an automatic transmission to manual transmission?
In our next video we will be reviewing a 350Z with the 3.7 Liter engine LMAO
three theventy thed... three point theven litre dude
Nissan's 3.5L V6?! Did this man really just fuck that up? wow
I'm in a 370 convertible vs STI or wait for the next evo I really don't know xD love them all or even a Miata a love that car too
Sad, supposedly car guys doing reviews on sports cars and they dont even know the engine size of the 370z, one the most iconic sports cars recognized to this day..
Reviews a 350 says it's the 3.7L TRiggered..
I'm glad I went with an STI! Fun and extreme but still very practical.
Low RWD coupes are fun (my old Zx)... but when the weather is bad they kinda suck because you gotta drive extra slow and careful which takes away the sports car element. Not to mention the blind spots.... I mastered the blind spot on my Z... but I have had fucking Tractor Trailers that were hidden by it... I have my mirrors adjusted all the way out too certain angles on certain merges you just cant see shit. I'm sure the 370z's blind spot is even worse with those tiny side windows.
No fuck off, STI is a better all around chassis then the Z32 hands down. Besides that my Z is a Z32 2+2. I know how to drive my the 2+2 WHICH slides even easier then a 2+0 in the rain pendulum effect. Ive driven it through plenty of downpours, floods and standing water.. in cold weather on summer tires, etc. Snow and ICE but I want a car that I can just drive to work with no bullshit.
If I adjust the STI center diff to full rear and turn traction control off it will slide.... but what the fuck is the point of sliding i'm in heavy rush hour traffic with Semi Trucks and Dump Trucks that could literally run the Z32 over if you fuck up. Drifting on streets = fucking retarted...
The Z32 is and solid heavy but not invincible... slide sideways and hit a pole or tree the wrong way and your done. The side is the weakest part of the Z32... very weak in side impact from what I have seen. Metal is soft.... no high strength steel in that chassis. Those poles and trees will cut through a Z32 like a hot knife through butter. And no the hardtop does not improve on that side weakness. Doesn't matter how much balls you think you have there is no negotiating with physics.
It's old 90s tech... I like the Z32's look but my 2+2 is obsolete, overweight and a 4 door sedan with AWD is lighter and handles better then it...
NOT WORTH IT. I have nothing I need to prove to anyone and STI is how i'm doing it.
They are both cars... STI is better in all areas FACT. Has your Z32 ever seen snow? Can you drive your Z32 on Gravel?, Mud? Sand?
The funny thing is I could put my STI around a track faster then you could put your Z32 even if you have more HP. You have a heavy cast iron lump in the front with PISS POOR weight distribution... Z32 is like a fucking pickup truck lol. "Never an issue". It's never an issue until there an issue. Your overconfident and the Z32 is gonna bite you for that...
I know I can drive my Z32 in the rain well.. it's just no ideal... I was doing 70-80mph turns in pouring rain one summer I know I can drive... but its dumb. The STI does it all better.
I went with Subaru because it is the best car available... and has a proven power plant.
Your driving a Nissan with a Toyota engine... Blasphemy. You could have put an N/A VH45 (which is underrated) and made just as much power to the wheels. VH45 is actually a swap idea I have and it is the BEST Swap for a Z32... when I have time to waste on something as SILLY as doing that on a Z32. There is nothing special about what you did... Cookie cutter build lol. Everybody has a 2JZ.
EDIT: Or you could have went VG30DETT... you lazy fuck. Inline 6 is for lazy people.
Your an idiot. The STI's transmission is STRONG and heavy duty, they don't break. The old 02-03 WRX's had weak transmissions. You were driving a regular WRX and if you shattered a gearbox then you couldn't shift for shit. STI has the option to turn traction control off... your argument is invalid about driver assists. If you take your Z32 on gravel it must be the biggest POS Z ever. Ive driven my Z32 in the snow, I know how to slide it but thats not the point. Z32's are not made for that kind of crap. Z32's are highway cruisers.
THEY DONT EVEN MAKE THE LANCER EVO ANYMORE FOOL! Mitsubishi lost their Balls and Evo's are the ones with weak transmissions. STI has always been the better car. Mitsubishi Evo's all have loose timing chains and bend their valves or randomly spin their bearings.
Also Z32 is not a "No Bling" sports car... bullshit. Why do you think the Z32 is so heavy? It is a 90s Luxury Sports car. Here the Z32 is known as the 300zx (X is for Luxury). And it is a grip car actually... it's not like your driving a 240SX or Toyota MR2... Z32's are not as twitchy as you say but they still suck in poor weather. If you wanted to race your going to need to figure out how to make your Z drive on water becuase i'm on a different continent.... but if your in Australia i'm not sure why you even go with a Z32 anyway... R34's are a better choice and available to you. BTW VH45 is not that big... actually leaves alot of room.
Z32 really does not take skill to drive and the funny thing is with all that weight in the front and the weight distribution the first thing EVERY Z32 (modified or not) does is UNDERSTEER! Then it goes into Oversteer if kept on the power and your too stupid to notice your going beyond it's limit.
I'm not relying on tech at all.... I own and drove a Honda S2000 AP1 before I got my STI... the AP1 is even twitchier then your Z32 ever would be... essentially a Front-Mid Engine car. My S2000 also has no traction control or any nannies.... I know how to drive... and if you think you can just drive an STI care free your wrong... it requires knowledge of driving dynamics just like any other car does. It's not like a Nissan GTR.
In FACT... I bought the AP1 because the Z32 was not raw enough.
That's a sweet 350z bro :)))
Def is a 3.7L, u guys should review the BMW m2
Ken S with the 9.2L ? hahaha If Cooley did the review I would want to see it.
Ken S why so they can name countless dumb shit and all that a fucking 1 liter focus
"Too busy driving it to look up the specs". This is evident in your presentation by the lack of correct information.
Goodwin is the best! She is badass too. CNET, give us more of this golden goodness!
about the nissan you kept saying power but you never mentioned how much horsepower it has, just the displacement
A bit of an oddball comparison IMO. You have a 2 seater sports car vs. a suped up sedan.
Engine is not only a "3.7" liter engine, but also 370s came out in 2009 not 2010... Come on man
Odd comparison, but only goes to highlight the STI and it's versatility. I miss my 370Z and would take it any day over the STI, even if it, the STI, would come up trumps at every stop light.
I am sorry, but did he say 3.5?
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They should put the red sport 400 twin turbo engine in the new nissan Z.
That's the plan
+// “LightSpeedSnail” // if they do,I'll buy one.
// // I heard something about the next gen Z being turbo. hopefully
considering its been a trend for the infiniti to release with newer updated parts (g37 being introduced with the VHR then not much longer the 370z) its only a matter of time
will you buy it when it cost 9k more
I think YOU meant to say it's got a 'Three point THEVEN' litre motor. .not 3.5.. ...You like what I just did there? Lol great lithp
They're both good cars, about as fast, if not faster, than a 2015 Mustang GT, which I currently have. I used to own a 2013 370z Touring w/ Sport package, and got tired of the cabin noise & rough ride. I test drove a WRX and enjoyed it, but discovered insurance was up to $800 more per year here in Northern California!
Bro, you said the Nissan has more power, but you didn't mention how many horses it has
370 with a 3.5 engine, what happened to the 3.7, 370 come with 3.7