NEW 2021 Hoyt Ventum & RX-5 Bow Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
- Hoyt Ventum 30: bit.ly/3oKDLy8
Hoyt Ventum 33: bit.ly/3oGAdx1
Hoyt RX-5: bit.ly/3nFz9YZ
Hoyt RX-5 Ultra: bit.ly/3nIGozj
Check out the brand-new flagship hunting bows for 2021 from Hoyt Archery. The Ventum and RX-5 feature an all-new CAM system, cable rollers, short-stop stabilizer, and much more. - กีฬา
That RX-5 is sweet!!
Are you getting a carbon RX-5?
Another excellent and informative review. Thanks P.J.!
As always, superb job P.J.! Thanks for the detailed video on the new Hoyt Ventum! I just might have to upgrade from the Nitrum Turbo! :-)
Thanks for a good comprehensive review
Cheers for the video ...and what a lovely bow.
See a lot of people complaining about the weight it makes sense with the built in stabilizer will add more weight to the bare bow the built in stabilizer is cool but would like to see it offset for the weight of the accessories on the side of the bow
PJ, Great video! I had no idea you sold Holt. I need to come by someday. However, it would take me about three hours. Someday. Wish you the Best! An old dinosaur. :)
I believe PJ has to be one of, if not the best product presenter in the industry. Well versed in all products, with great delivery. I bet that once seeing this Hoyt vid, the sales are going to be huge. 👍🙏🏹🦌
Rx5 carbon is 4.4 lbs? What the hell is the point of going carbon if it weighs the same as any bowtech, mathews, pse aluminum lol. Plus it costs $700 more. Thats crazy
My thoughts exactly.
@@BOOMER-rs5qn I'm blown away right now. More expensive same weight plus more vibration. They will say you'll save a lot of weight since you don't "technically" need a front stabilizer but come on. That's assuming everyone like 6" or less front stab or that that little thing is as good as an actual 6"-7" stab. What happens if I want to run a 12" do I attach a 6" to that little thing to make it 12" or do I put it on the regular hole and now I have a 12" on top and a 6" built in on the bottom lol 😆
The point of going carbon and retaining the weight, is to be able to build the bow more solid, while not bringing the weight any higher than other bows on the market.
@@Thisshitcrazybruh what are you talking about. My accesories weigh the same no matter what bow they are on. If my accesories weight 1 pound and I have a 5 pound bow it will weigh 6 if i have a 2 pound bow it will weigh 3. Or are you trying to say now that I buy a $1800 hoyt carbon i have to also buy the hoyt specific accesories so that I can save 1 or 2 ounces lol.
@@Thisshitcrazybruh the point of going carbon is only to save weight, besides that there are no benefits. If they can't do that then what's the point, im going to pay $700 more just to say my bow is carbon and has a cool spiral thingy on the riser lol.
The carbon and aluminum weigh the same? What kind of CNN reasoning justifies that?
WOW, watch when he draws the bow, there is some major lateral torque going on there.
theres barely any and what little there is, is much better compared to the mathews.
Proud owner of a Hyperforce, the thing is an absolute work horse, tac driver, and speed demon. As a Hoyt customer, I really think they should get away from the carbon fiber riser thing as a whole. Aluminum bows have been around forever and have more than proved their worth and the difference in weight isn't that great. But other than that, Hoyt are outstanding bows.
When will the sights come out that are compatible with the front picatinny mount?
I wanted an rx4 to upgrade from my first hoyt, to save a little bit. Tried the rx5, the ventum and a few others, but the mathews v3 beats all of them. These 2 aren't bad, but for the price the justification isn't there even if it was $500 less. If you're looking for a new one try a v3 at your shop
I'll stick with my 2012 Carbon Element and 2013 Carbon Matrix. They are lighter and I dont have to pull axles to adjust centershot. 3.6 lbs and 3.8 lbs allows me to put weight where I want it. Disappointed Hoyt went to a binary type cam system but I guess all good things must end at some point.
Excellent
What color were those bows? The Ventum could have been the new wilderness green but the RX5 did not look like any of the colors on the Hoyt website. If anything it looks like the new Grizzly color on the Prime.
Do they have to this SL mount? What's wrong with the rear bushing?
What happened with the rubber shelf pad on Ventum?
Watching this video couldn't help my self of thinking what follows...
It's a binary cam Hoyt!!! Very close to the Pse's of 2018 as far as cam design.
The increased wall of the right side of the cams, besides the reason you are describing, is also there to prevent the string from derailing since in a system of three track binary, (with no yokes) there is always a bit of cam lean caused by the tension of the
roller slide.
(The shot is not affected anyhow).
The let off of 80-85
is not a significant one to be described as a (price raising) feature.
At that price the different draw length modules should be both Icluded,(something that is not clarified).
And (this is my personal opinion)
a hunting bow should be able to be
as vibration free as possible otherwise by added stabilization and dampening, is loosing the advantage of low weight, especially a carbon one wich weights more than 4 pounds.
Sorry couldn't help it.
*Losing and *which. Sorry but you're welcome 😉
What's the best centershot for the TWIN Turbo?
It’s a good thing looks don’t effect shooting.
What sight is on that?
Nice
At the small price point of your soul.
Wouldn't be a Hoyt otherwise!!
Hahah
yeah if you're buying the carbon version but the Mathews V3 31 is literally the same price as the Ventum 30 on Lancaster website.
If you cant afford it just say that
Hello so I purchased an rx5 ultra from my local shop and noticed that the top cam has quite a bit of lean but when shot through paper at the shop was able to get a bullet hole with adjustments to the rest. Is the cam lean something I should be worried about?
Take it in to your local pro shop and have them look at it.....
I want to know why Hoyt went away from the 2 string Rx4 to one string rx5
What’s the cost
Well Bowtech and Elite are looking better and better.
Elite makes a killer bow!
@@kaelangerhardt5651 I Should be picking up my Elite Remedy in a day or two. Talk about a butter smooth tack driver!
@@kylem4130 yeah I really like their target bow, but I still shot the Mathews TRX 38 better, so I bought that one instead
Hey PJ - how do you change the draw weights on the Ventum? Thanks!
You get 10 pounds of adjustment on the limb bolts.....beyond that you have to change limbs
@@LancasterArcherySupply thanks for the info!
I’d rather have a yoke IMO !
I shot a few top performers and picked the ventum 33 over the rest the carbon rx5 wasnt as nice in my eyes and for 600 more no way was even close I shoot a elite now and love it it came down to the ventum or the remedy from elite both super nice bows but sick of waiting for the hoyt already may see if I can get ahold of the elite lol
Ps didn't feel like that hyped up matthews bow I shot it and still don't see what everyone raves about
The new hoyts look nice. Glad to see Hoyt finally told the truth on the weights of the carbon bow, but with them weighing the same and essentially being the same why pay $700 more?
They lengthened these up after the RX4 Alpha disaster, and when Hoyt figured out they can’t make a short bow and went to a mod system.
Best Hoyt yet and that’s because they made a Mathews!
-From a Hoyt Rx4 Alpha owner turned over to a Mathews.
🤣🤣
Thanks Hoyt, I always wanted a Hoyt carbon bow... now I don't, just saved me boo coo bucks.
I still have my carbon spyder turbo from 2014, just haven't seen anything that impressed me that justified spending 1800$ for a new bow that isn't worth it. I paid 1200 for my carbon spyder turbo in 2014, the price has risen 600$ for a bow that hasn't incorporated any "new" technology, they are using the tech that's been on other bows for years, so why such a rise in price. I think I'm switching to pse.
Go to Mathews brother
I shot the used nitrum since 2017. The guy at the club sold it bare for $600 with the rest. Bought rx 3 for $925 with Shipping came to $1007 quad rest in January when the new Hoyt dropped and all the pros hyping up the new rx5 and ventum; so every dude bros ran out and bought one while putting their rx3 on eBay. Sold my nitrum for $450. I got the bow basically for less than $600. Will spend the extra saving on a gas string set. I do like the rx3-5 riser design though. Wider limb pockets slightly larger carbon tubes than rx1 and carbon spyder and carbon defiant predecessor. Solid through and through
Honestly not worth it price keeps going up and they only tweak a bit every year
Facts if I didn't buy a Mathews traverse j would still be using my hoyt faktor same as your bow just with the aluminum riser Hoyt hasn't really impressed me
Matthew's for life
Always wanted a Hoyt carbon bow, but cannot justify the price.
I just got a kitted out rx1 turbo with case and stuff for $400
I was under the impression that one of the reasons as to why people buy carbon bows is to reduce weight. that just tells me PSE is a true winner when it comes to building carbon bows as well as the new expedition bows being much lighter. Now I’m not a hater I do like Hoyt bows, And they have some great technology especially the big changes now. but still if you can’t produce a carbon bow that’s light, why those prices.😔
The weight of carbon is not the only benefit. Not having an ice-cold riser when hunting in cold conditions, rigidity under extreme stresses, and mass distribution for better handling of residual vibration frequencies on the shot are just a few. The main takeaway with the RX-5 should be that, with a better weight distribution away from the grip, the carbon is more efficiently stabilized and accessorized -- ESPECIALLY with the new accessory systems introduced this year. Overall, you will be much lighter than other bows once they're fully accessorized.
Sooooo shim the cams..... oh I meant “switch out spacers”. That won’t take up much shop time at all...
There is a tool Hoyt designed to streamline the process
These carbon Hoyt bows are like the air pods max. They are just a FLEX to show you have money and not worth the extra money you spend over equal competition
Buy last years model cheap. I got an rx-1 kitted out with case for less than a quarter the price of a new bow.
Did they copy the wing on the cam from Mathews?
Yeah looks like the cams or copied from Matthews definitely
It was for an optimized weight distribution for better rotational velocities.
Good to know Hoyt wants to squeeze out all the money they can from their consumers by making proprietary side-bar mounts.
It still has the old mount location as well as the new, better one.
why does the bow wiggle when coming to anchor? i see a lot of it in this video.
Insanely reflexed riser design..
Too much torq..
I think it’s about how strong the shooter is...
its how hard the shooter is coming to the end of the draw
i will be keeping my 2020 hoyt
Me too. My Rx4 is amazing
RX4 is the best bow i've ever shot. shoots better than the V3 hands down.
I'll join this group. Keeping my Rx4. Not paying to go up in weight and have to deal with bushings for tuning.
IBO is supposed bro be at 30" and 70#. Is that what these are rated at? If so, what's the speed at 80#?
Yeahhhhhh if you watch bowmar bow huntings vid on the Mathews vs Hoyt you’ll see that speed is actually at 80#s....
IBO is actually measured at the bows max draw length and up to 80lbs with a +/- 2lb variance while shooting a 5 grain per pound arrow (400 grain arrow if tested at 80lbs)
@@BowOnlyOutdoors I guess that makes sense. I guess 30" and 70# are most common Max's. Curious what speed this would be at 70#. Even though I can totally draw 80# 😬
@@BowOnlyOutdoors pretty close info but the “max” draw length is incorrect. There is no draw length specifications in the ibo standard.
@@jwild5360 correct, by max I mean they will test it at whatever the peak draw length the bow can go to to get the most speed. On some bows like the Mathews V3 27 thats 29.5” on the Atlas it’s 34”. They aren’t required to test there but they will if they want to get the highest rating.
Is it just me or am i really missing something here, what is wrong with hoyt making a 340 ish ibo rx5 ultra. Do that and i would buy one tomorrow!.
Cause it would be 5 lbs for a carbon bow lol
@@dillonwalling - they’ve been 5lbs. This is just the first year they aren’t lying about it.
You know, if manufacturers actually used better and stronger and lighter aluminum alloys for risers like 7075 Aluminum or my preference 7068 Aluminum, you wouldn't have to consider $1700 for a Carbon bow...But hey what do I know...Logic ALWAYS loses to greed...
Front stabilizer is fugly. So they haven’t even made sights yet that mounts to the front of the riser??
Axcel, Spot Hogg and HHA all have sights coming out for them.
@Rusty Shackleford - they aren’t out yet was my point
and Fuse
Lol it does look dumb
i like hoyt don't get me wrong. but their sales pitches now are so sad. their designs are still behind. trying to find things that dont matter to make work.
Wow let's take everything that everything bow company has, or is doing. Wow
You act like that’s not what every company in every market in the world does also..?
Have you been following the bow market of all companies for idk the past 15 years?!😂
Exactly my first thought. The cam aside from the module part is basically a mix of a bowtech/matthews. The riser bridging is almost just like a mathews htr/htx/halon and cmon guys,the low placement stabilizer/dampner is an exact copy of what mathews did. I understand theres only so many new things you can do before you run out of ideas but when your "new" bestest bow ever comes out of the box and looks like another manufacturers product......🙄
They built an elite with Hoyt on the limbs ?
Not interesting at all currently own 2019 helix ultra but if was going to buy new bow would be Mathews hands down.
Mathews doesn’t have a hunting bow longer than 31 inches. Unless you want a super slow long draw bow that starts at 29.5 inch draw That would be a dumb move to get rid of the Helix Ultra for a new Mathews.
@@archer3181 notice I said if I where buying a new bow. Don't plan on getting rid of my ultra absolutely love it. I agree I wouldn't buy the shorter Mathews I would go with trx34 black have tried alot of short bows in past and just not for me.
@@archer3181 the Halon 32 is a hunting bow so is the traverse but they do make a lot of short bows glad I bought the traverse over the vertix and the atlas is just useless for alot of guys unless you have a draw over 31 inches
shoot the v3 and the ventum side by side i’m positive you’ll choose the ventum
THE CHODE BOW!!
They are very similar to Elite tri tracks cams 😒
Looks like a Hoyt and a Mathews had a baby
Yeah a brat
Has Hoyt finally caught up with just draw lengths??
Bowtech rules them all
4.5 pounds..... before rest, sight, quiver and stabilizer. It just seems like the opposite of advanced engineering?
I really like this but not the weight.. no way in hell would I pay that much for a carbon bow that is almost a pound heavier than an aluminum pro series pse bow from 8 years ago. Lol. Cmon now. On the right track though hoyt. Make em lighter and a bit more affordable.
Did they just copy mathews?
Yup pretty much. As they have been the last few years
Yeahhh that little “stabilizer” is most definitely a wink at Mathews
@@clayrollo7253 well the shock pods are def a rip off of the Mathews dampener. The little but plug stabilizer is just stupid looking lol. It’s too bad I was really looking forward to the Hoyts this year.
They have ran out of ideas with the modern compound bow
The iBow is coming. Built in test, performance etc. May even be able to aim from the app.
@@miket8018 lol that would be cool
Take my money ibow
I am sure it is nice, but the best Hoyt I ever had said Mathews on it.
Lol why is everyone complaining about the rx5 being so heavy for so much more money? Like buy the fucking ventum then
I like Hoyt but it seems like the inventiveness has dissipated
No bow company has brought much innovation since 2016.
@@Thisshitcrazybruh Eh, what has really changed since 2018 other than minor tweaks here and there. Coming from the leaps in their previous bows it seems like a small change. Maybe we have hit peak bow?
@@Thisshitcrazybruh you're totally wrong. If you think bowtechs dead lock wasn't a massive innovation you're wrong
They cut weight....? Reduce vibration.... ? How about cutting the cost? Probably not 🤣. Guns are cheaper (&) hold their value!!
Not all guns hold value
I love when they say mass weight hahahaah mass is weight just say total weight
Mass is entirely different from weight. Mass is a scaler quantity and is is a measurement of inertia of a body. Weight is a vector quantity. It equals mass times gravitational acceleration. You should really review your physics before you write something like that.
@@VuNguyen-tg7dn u used words I never even heard of lol
Let's make it simple. The bow would weigh more on earth than on the moon. However, the bow's mas is the same on Earth and on the moon. Hence, weight changes with gravitational acceleration. The earth exerts greater gravitational pull on the bow than the moon's gravitational pull on the same bow.
@@VuNguyen-tg7dn that makes sense
@@VuNguyen-tg7dn so when they use this when talking about a bow, what's the difference?
BlackOut Epic Compound Bow has similar specs for $599 😂
Is just me. Or did hoyt just put many technologies Mathews used years ago. The only diferent form a Mathews is the mods that is a technology that bowtech has been using for years. Binary cam, spacers (top-hats) flat forward riser, the front down dampener all technologies used by Mathews and bowtech for years. Now the side bar mount. Excelent so if I want to use my old side mount. I can’t use it. I have to buy a new one with these bows. The carbon riser on 4.4 lbs? What’s the point on a carbon riser. There are plenty aluminum risers that has the same weight... yes the speeds are awesome. Another thing do any one notice how the bow wombles every time pj riley draw the bow? That tells me the bow is unstable. And you can torque it easily.
As usual. Hoyts been ripping off Mathews the last few years anyway. Integrated rest, shock pods. Next year will be a rip off of the center guard technology. Same old Hoyt. They were smarter than Mathews tho and came out with a 33-34 ata. Was hoping Mathews would of done a 33 ata this year. Prob next year.
@@patriotref7536 well yes I hardly recommend you the traverse. Is an “old” bow” form Mathews but shoots very nicely. Is a 33 ATA. One of the best bows Mathews has done in the past 4 or 5 years. Ive shoot almost every Mathews bow in the last 4 years. And non of them shoots as well, is as foregiving as the traverse. (Excluding the target trx line)
@@carloscoronel5381 - I have a traverse. Best bow I’ve ever shot. Was waiting to see what Hoyt did this year in that Ata cuz I wanted a backup bow. But not impressed with what they did
My first thoughts exactly. I am assuming they were sitting around last year wondering why so many people were switching to the vxr, so they decided to make their version of it lol. Looks like they nearly copied that new green mathews introduced too.
@@garretcarden1 - Hoyts out of ideas clearly.
Hoyt built a mathews bravo
but better
Hoyt is struggling to keep up with Mathews.
have you shot the ventum and v3 side by side🤷♂️
@@naht8522 yes I have. I'm privileged enough to be able to shoot all the new bows at my pro shop before they hit the sale floor. I'm not bashing hoyt when I made that statement. Hoyt bows are tried and true. In comparison after the last few years they've fallen behind Mathews in my opinion. Both are awesome bows though no question.
And with that Hoyt just fell to the bottom of the list for quality bows for this year. Why the hell would anyone spend more money for a carbon bow that weighs the same as the aluminum bow????😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you would be a idiot to purchase this thing. Goodbye Hoyt I guess 😂😂
My rx3 is heavier that my Mathews 28
They gave 4 carbon bow choices to pick from, from a rx1 to a rx5, some people that aren't idiots might want a strong carbon and warm to touch feel and dont like a light carbon especially in the wind...ya keyboard jockey!
Chief ryan piss off.
Jus letting u see ur ignorance n your own post
😂
Bruh, they just copied bowtech, elite and some pse. Guess they was like f&$k it can't beat them, join them!
Elite....😅😅
The ventum is uggggggly. Rx5 looks good
Sad how all the mathews guys are on here in BIG HATE MODE 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 oh lemme go on a hoyt video and be super negative and hate on them because I bought a mathews
Lol....hoyt has lost their mind
Every spec EXCEPT $$$...I'm not a fan of that 💩...If you're going to give specs, give them ALL...
Those are some ugly bows!
Cams: looks like bowtech realm cams
Rest: totally copied from Mathews along with
Vibration dampening and butt plug "stabilizer": Mathews rip off
Adjustable let off: stolen from pse and elite
Lower stabilizer mount: nothing new... Buuuuut pse was doimg it last year conveniently when they lost ol' Duds.
Riser:... Heeeeeyyyy does that look like a 2015 hoyt factor 30 with stolen tech to you or is it just me?
strings, cams, riser, grip, limbs all stolen at some point too huh