Always been into lifting but you've inspired me to start running. Now that has led to me getting my first bow and hoping to go on my first hunt this year. Always wanted to hunt but the military lifestyle made it difficult. Now I'm out and looking forward to it! Thanks for the inspiration Cam!
Just got my first bow in January and let me warn you now…it’s addictive and you will spend WAY more money than your anticipating buying releases, new arrows, etc. What bow you get!?
@@Prim3e I got a Mathews TRX 38. I’ve already switched to 80% mods, CBE trek pro sight and dipped it in Origin Raptor so it’s coming together nice. I’ve been using a back-tension release to help eliminate anticipation and “target panic.” It’s addicting for sure!
I was raised shooting longbows and recurves by my father, and he was taught to shooting traditional by his father as well. They’d hunted for maybe a couple decades together. I have seen my father shoot groupings very very tight from even very far distances with multiple forms of recurves. Luckily, he taught me how to shoot a bow as well as him. Taught me how to hunt, silence a recurve bow, find the wind direction, etc. For me, I can pull my 52lb pull black widow graybark recurve any day without even shooting for a month or so and hit wherever I aim. I can’t imagine how easy it would be using a compound that has a sight. One day I’ll get one! I just gotta save up and research what I’d like and feel comfortable with. Technology in archery is evolving every year. It’s crazy! I hope Joe Rogan still has this bow today, since I’m commenting so much later haha. Good video man
I think its very interesting after being into archery for 40 years or so how the subject of heavier poundage bows makes a full circle. When i was in my early twenties i shot a Darton at 72 pounds at 65 percent let off and these days most bows have that 80 percent plus let off. To be honest i shot my 65 percent much better than a new Hoyt i had in 2012. I havent really found one that i like to shoot in some years. Cool to see the long shots...keep up the great shooting.
Grim Reapers all the way! Loved my results attached to an FMJ. Switching to a lighter Axis and better FOC. Watched em drop as advertised. KEEP HAMMERING.
Shooting big truck this weekend after TAC last weekend. 10 ringed a few 100+ but wanna crank things up a notch! Thanks for further inspiration as usual!
Good stuff Cam! Although few can shoot 90lbs.. I'm having similar dilemna dialing in my setup and was being ignorant to the fact that a few turns back on the limbs could be a win-win! Also you're last video has me eyeing those carni-fours, but I really like the Valkyrie blood eagles too and they are local to us in Oregon!!
Love a longer ATA still have my Hoyt Maxxis 35. Not sure I'll ever let it go. I shoot the best with it. It's like an old friend, can pick right up where you left off 5 yrs prior. Always a good feeling!!
The carbon express maximum triads are a great heavy arrow, especially with their insert system it is a 4mm arrows i left the fmj because of their bend problem
Because of you I warm up at 65 yards. North Florida whitetail hunter, no spot and stalk, just food plots and hot trails. Anything 40 and under I'm smoking 🚬
What's the difference between the aluminum vtm vs the carbon rx models? Any chance you could shoot them side by side and talk a bit about the subtle differences?
I'm not sure the draw length, but I'm shooting an RX7 ULTRA at 83.1 lbs draw and 31" and my 544 grain arrows are flying at 289fps, which gives me 97lbs kinetic energy and it's a very accurate set up.
I’m not convinced these bows are engineered to tolerate the higher poundage’s. I just had the bearings of the top cam on my Ventum 33 Pro (82 lbs) come apart at full draw. It was so dramatic I stopped and slowly let the bow down, all the time waiting for the bow to blow up. Seriously oh shit moment. I’ve shot my RX7 at 70 lbs a lot more with no issues…
I once heard bill Winke say shot placement trumps trauma and penetration, but personally I’d take the heavier arrows especially since Mr Hanes is more accurate with the FMJ’s than 99.9% of bowhunters.
Why set it down? He walks with it for miles at a time when hunting. Carrying it to the target and back is nothing. Just practicing how he performs, probably.
Love the Ventum. I shoot same bow and it's friggn's beautiful draw cycle, quiet and holds very nice in hand. Question, isn't Joe's DL shorter than yours? and wouldn't that require a new site tape and re-sighting?
I shoot gold tip hunter xt. 300 at almost full length 31 inches but lower poundage 63 lbs they are great target 🎯 idk about hunting haven’t hunted yet but isn’t 500 grains kinda weak ? For heavy poundage? I’m a newbie to this
Hey Cam- do you mind me asking why you turned your bow down a few turns for your Pro Comps? Would they have been under spined, might they fly a bit funny, or do you just find it to be a bit much? Thanks man, great shooting as always
A 540 gr arrow would be considered heavy for most of us but isn't heavy for 90 lbs. That would be similar to shooting 420 grains at 70. That seems to be money for your draw weight.
Obvious solution is to put heavier broadhed to lighter arrow. Better FOC, Sturdier more durable broad-head that doesn't break if you hit bone. Win-win.
Rogan gets the best of the best only! Custom Hoyt, custom 1 of 1 PSE all set up by Legends in the game. Hell easily b filling his freezers (plural) with a set up like that drilling nails at up to 100 yards! Would love to see Joe actually hunting, taking the shot, tracking & field dressing his elk & axis deer!
Man alot of these comments have a full blown BROmance with this guy!! What you wearin? Whats this ya got, whats that you got? You wear Hanes underwear? Like that old looney tunes cartoon chihuahua running circles around the bulldog just dying to be his best friend.😂 Wearing jordans doesnt make you like Mike🤣 Calm down, just another guy with a bow.
Penetration. Basically mass keeps moving through the target once the target is hit. A lighter arrow won’t have the weight to pass through an elk. The heavier arrow will. Elk hunters usually hunt with heavy arrows.
I'd use the heavier FMJ's @ 90# draw weight...My Ventum Pro is set @82#'s with 528 gr. 4mm FMJ's...Absolutely hammers stuff...I'd love to see 90#'s up close!!
Did Cam switch to carnivore diet is that right? I vaguely remember it for some reason. Rogan talked about how he’s switching to carnivore permanently last week
I hate sighting in nows on a windy days. As you said. Every littlle mistake is amplified... and yes i knownhunting is rarely "ideal" everything when your taking that shot. But still.
But....what are the chances you both have exactly the same peep height??? All you can do for someone else's bow is get it somewhere near tuned. How can you know its the right sight tape when he will have to adjust peep height and is using different arrows??
I know this is an old comment but if you’re still wondering about his shoes they are the ones he designed with speed land. Just look up cam Hanes shoes.
G'day from Australia. What's your thoughts on an aerodynamic 125gn target tip flying same as less aerodynamic 100gn broadhead? That's my target vs hunting setup
More point weight is always ideal. It shifts the balance forward, eliminating inconsistencies on the back end, especially with the wind. Also, a heavier point seems to have better penetration for me. I actually prefer 140gn for my hunting rig, but my tournament bow likes 120 because USA Archery limits draw to 60lbs
It’s buttery smooth. It’s hard to believe it’s a speed bow. I pulled back a 70# and made them double check that it wasn’t a 60. Fairly dead in the hand too.
Why does anyone shoot FMJ’s? They are super heavy gpi. 250 spine is 11.5 gpi. Let’s say you want to shoot ~550 grains with a 250 spine arrow, 4 fletch, and 28” arrow length. With a 5mm fmj you’re getting an FOC around 12%. That’s assuming no wraps on the back end of the arrow (which would lower FOC) With a 5mm Victory Rip TKO you have a gpi of 8.9 instead of 11.5. Which allows you to add about 75 grains to the front of the arrow for the same total arrow weight of 550 grains. This gets you to an FOC of 18.5%. With this increase in FOC pushing the center of pressure that much further behind the center of mass, you could lose a fletch and go to 3 fletch without losing any stability compared to the FMJ build (because the lever arm utilized by the fletchings is so much more efficient with an FOC north or 18% vs 12%). This would reduce the weight on the back end by about 7 grains and get the FOC to 19.4%.
You definitely don’t have children runnin around that place very often 😂 Seeing those arrows fly along side of that building like that gives me anxiety! Just takes one kid to pop around the corner!
damn...im from England so no Bow hunting at all, no nothing really in this country.....im going to take upo archery though after your videos. so cheers
Always been into lifting but you've inspired me to start running. Now that has led to me getting my first bow and hoping to go on my first hunt this year. Always wanted to hunt but the military lifestyle made it difficult. Now I'm out and looking forward to it! Thanks for the inspiration Cam!
Just got my first bow in January and let me warn you now…it’s addictive and you will spend WAY more money than your anticipating buying releases, new arrows, etc.
What bow you get!?
@@Prim3e I got a Mathews TRX 38. I’ve already switched to 80% mods, CBE trek pro sight and dipped it in Origin Raptor so it’s coming together nice. I’ve been using a back-tension release to help eliminate anticipation and “target panic.” It’s addicting for sure!
There’s some good hunting to be had on military installations
I started running because of cam and I ended up losing 100lbs
@@chief5981 there definitely is! I was always training and then out the door.
Ahh to have cam dial your bow in and hand deliver it Joe is a lucky man!
Only a real friend let's a friend shoot his bow before he even sees it
If Cam Hanes is that friend...or even not friend...I think I'd let him shoot the bow first haha
True words
Ehh I'm more impressed with the fact that they have the exactly same draw length then.
You’re god damn right!!
He built the bow for Rogan. Of course he is going to test it out to make sure that it isn't even slightly shit.
I smell a lift, run, shoot with Rogan coming up 🤠 Texas style ! 🔥
I was raised shooting longbows and recurves by my father, and he was taught to shooting traditional by his father as well. They’d hunted for maybe a couple decades together. I have seen my father shoot groupings very very tight from even very far distances with multiple forms of recurves. Luckily, he taught me how to shoot a bow as well as him. Taught me how to hunt, silence a recurve bow, find the wind direction, etc. For me, I can pull my 52lb pull black widow graybark recurve any day without even shooting for a month or so and hit wherever I aim. I can’t imagine how easy it would be using a compound that has a sight. One day I’ll get one! I just gotta save up and research what I’d like and feel comfortable with. Technology in archery is evolving every year. It’s crazy! I hope Joe Rogan still has this bow today, since I’m commenting so much later haha. Good video man
I love that you say use what you have the most confident in. I feel like people hear what someone uses and depends on what works for someone else
Beautiful day to be alive!☀️
Choosing the right sight tape from experience👌🙂 Great demo ❤️
That bow packs a punch! Especially with the ProComps. Envious of them. they’re pricey but seem worth it
I think its very interesting after being into archery for 40 years or so how the subject of heavier poundage bows makes a full circle. When i was in my early twenties i shot a Darton at 72 pounds at 65 percent let off and these days most bows have that 80 percent plus let off. To be honest i shot my 65 percent much better than a new Hoyt i had in 2012. I havent really found one that i like to shoot in some years. Cool to see the long shots...keep up the great shooting.
Love getting more insight into cams set ups and Rogans for that matter 💪🏻
Grim Reapers all the way! Loved my results attached to an FMJ. Switching to a lighter Axis and better FOC. Watched em drop as advertised. KEEP HAMMERING.
Just ordered the VTM34 yesterday, Kuiu camo lefthand 70lb 30"draw looking forward to getting it dialed in.
Shooting big truck this weekend after TAC last weekend. 10 ringed a few 100+ but wanna crank things up a notch! Thanks for further inspiration as usual!
Where are you from? Shoot Big Truck course all summer long 🤘
I've missed these videos SOOOO much 🙂
love the procomp arrows - finally someone speaking about them! 👊👊👊
Good stuff Cam! Although few can shoot 90lbs.. I'm having similar dilemna dialing in my setup and was being ignorant to the fact that a few turns back on the limbs could be a win-win! Also you're last video has me eyeing those carni-fours, but I really like the Valkyrie blood eagles too and they are local to us in Oregon!!
Love your videos mate
All the away from the land down under
Keep hammering cam
Love these videos Cam! keep em coming.
Please keep making videos like these🙌🏻
Love a longer ATA still have my Hoyt Maxxis 35. Not sure I'll ever let it go. I shoot the best with it. It's like an old friend, can pick right up where you left off 5 yrs prior. Always a good feeling!!
That's crazy sunny boy. Good job
What’s the giant black block shot at? That’s awesome for far away?
The carbon express maximum triads are a great heavy arrow, especially with their insert system it is a 4mm arrows i left the fmj because of their bend problem
Thanks for sharing a bit about your arrow specs! What’s your draw length?
Because of you I warm up at 65 yards. North Florida whitetail hunter, no spot and stalk, just food plots and hot trails. Anything 40 and under I'm smoking 🚬
What's the difference between the aluminum vtm vs the carbon rx models? Any chance you could shoot them side by side and talk a bit about the subtle differences?
I'm not sure the draw length, but I'm shooting an RX7 ULTRA at 83.1 lbs draw and 31" and my 544 grain arrows are flying at 289fps, which gives me 97lbs kinetic energy and it's a very accurate set up.
What kinda drop away are you using.
@@dennisallen7789 integrated qad. I'm thinking about switching to a hamskea though
I’m not convinced these bows are engineered to tolerate the higher poundage’s. I just had the bearings of the top cam on my Ventum 33 Pro (82 lbs) come apart at full draw. It was so dramatic I stopped and slowly let the bow down, all the time waiting for the bow to blow up. Seriously oh shit moment. I’ve shot my RX7 at 70 lbs a lot more with no issues…
Good pick on the sight tape
My main man Cam! Love your videos brother. Lakeview, OR here 🎉
AMERICA! God Bless you, Love your vids Cam
What bow do you shoot cam? Currently rocking the helix turbo I bought last year. Love your videos!
I once heard bill Winke say shot placement trumps trauma and penetration, but personally I’d take the heavier arrows especially since Mr Hanes is more accurate with the FMJ’s than 99.9% of bowhunters.
It's interesting that Cameron always takes his bow with him to the target. I think most people set it down from where they shot.
Maybe cause that's the theme of this video. Joes new bow! He was always talking about it while walking to the target.
@@user-bp4qq7tt1u He always does it.
Why set it down? He walks with it for miles at a time when hunting. Carrying it to the target and back is nothing. Just practicing how he performs, probably.
@@AesthMed You have to set it down to pull your arrows anyway.
I still love my hoyt pro defiant.
Top Nice best work , aqui no Brasil chamamos de show de bola topzera !!!🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷 parabéns!!!
Any day on the range is a good day!
Anyone have any input on the ultra vs the 30? I’ve been back and forth, i’m in Canada.
Im so impressed with the shooting and glassing with sunnies on! I gotta practice that as my eyes are getting cooked 🍳
Does a sunglasses affect at your accuracy is it harder to aim with them or not.
Cam what Binoculars you got there? Been looking to upgrade to an all in one
Hey mate, what foam block do you use for the backstop on your balloon target? Trying to build myself a range, thanks! Keep Hammering.
Don’t have the newest and latest Hoyt. But just bought a new old stock RX4 turbo I love!🏹😎👍🦌🔨
Love the Ventum. I shoot same bow and it's friggn's beautiful draw cycle, quiet and holds very nice in hand. Question, isn't Joe's DL shorter than yours? and wouldn't that require a new site tape and re-sighting?
Yes :) and the peep height will almost certainly be wrong....
I bought fmj not knowing how easily they bend, do you still recommend?
I shoot gold tip hunter xt. 300 at almost full length 31 inches but lower poundage 63 lbs they are great target 🎯 idk about hunting haven’t hunted yet but isn’t 500 grains kinda weak ? For heavy poundage? I’m a newbie to this
I meant spine my bad
I haven't needed a new bow since I bought my Spyder 30 ten years ago.
Hey Cam- do you mind me asking why you turned your bow down a few turns for your Pro Comps? Would they have been under spined, might they fly a bit funny, or do you just find it to be a bit much? Thanks man, great shooting as always
Are you using binocular rangefinder ?
What kind of stabilizer does he use on the front
A 540 gr arrow would be considered heavy for most of us but isn't heavy for 90 lbs. That would be similar to shooting 420 grains at 70. That seems to be money for your draw weight.
The stars at night... are big and bright 👍🏿🏹
Thanks for the knowledge Cam. Just bought a hat and shirt! Hopeful to be on your podcast one day!
Obvious solution is to put heavier broadhed to lighter arrow. Better FOC, Sturdier more durable broad-head that doesn't break if you hit bone. Win-win.
Expensive arrows but great setup. Why now try Axis instead of FMJ or ProComp... split the difference with a more durable arrow.
Rogan gets the best of the best only! Custom Hoyt, custom 1 of 1 PSE all set up by Legends in the game. Hell easily b filling his freezers (plural) with a set up like that drilling nails at up to 100 yards! Would love to see Joe actually hunting, taking the shot, tracking & field dressing his elk & axis deer!
Joe has videos online of that already with jocko
is that a spot hogg fast eddy?
Man alot of these comments have a full blown BROmance with this guy!!
What you wearin?
Whats this ya got, whats that you got?
You wear Hanes underwear?
Like that old looney tunes cartoon chihuahua running circles around the bulldog just dying to be his best friend.😂
Wearing jordans doesnt make you like Mike🤣
Calm down, just another guy with a bow.
Hoyt is so loud on the release ?
Love the vid Hanes!
But could you or someone in the comments tell me what’s the pro n cons of having a heavier arrow?
Penetration. Basically mass keeps moving through the target once the target is hit. A lighter arrow won’t have the weight to pass through an elk. The heavier arrow will. Elk hunters usually hunt with heavy arrows.
This is the content I've been waiting for....let's goooooo #keephammering
I'd use the heavier FMJ's @ 90# draw weight...My Ventum Pro is set @82#'s with 528 gr. 4mm FMJ's...Absolutely hammers stuff...I'd love to see 90#'s up close!!
Still like them even though they bend?
@@alexreutov9496 ...Bend??? Are you 🥜??
How do I get a 90 lb Hoyt like this?
What binos are those?
Holy Smokes... shoot a range session at last light w/ lighted nocks. Just 10 min of flights and shot thoughts. That would be an all timer.
This is all new to me but wanting to learn ❤️❤️🇦🇺🙏💪
What stabilizer is that
I love you. Love Joe.: know Jack all about archery… the first part of this was Greek to me
Can’t go wrong with either set up brother !
The Dud must be jealous 😂 He thought he was Joe's Archery guy.🤣
I can pull back my 70lb bow pretty easily but I’m not sure I could yank back a 90lb bow without some big grunts.
Did Cam switch to carnivore diet is that right? I vaguely remember it for some reason. Rogan talked about how he’s switching to carnivore permanently last week
I hate sighting in nows on a windy days. As you said. Every littlle mistake is amplified... and yes i knownhunting is rarely "ideal" everything when your taking that shot. But still.
Take that quiver off helps to be a little more accurate.
You guys ever try hunting with TRAD bows?
Where can I get some camo
But....what are the chances you both have exactly the same peep height??? All you can do for someone else's bow is get it somewhere near tuned. How can you know its the right sight tape when he will have to adjust peep height and is using different arrows??
Anyone know what shorts he wears these days?
What shoes r u wearing. Love the vids. Bad ass new Hoyt.
12:02 Anybody know what shoes Cam is wearing here?
I know this is an old comment but if you’re still wondering about his shoes they are the ones he designed with speed land. Just look up cam Hanes shoes.
@@dannysands9535 thank you, I did find out on my own eventually, but I appreciate you coming through with the hookup!
Accuracy =Confidence Confidence = Accuracy Combined = CH 😎
That is fucking insane how good that is from 125 yards.........
G'day from Australia. What's your thoughts on an aerodynamic 125gn target tip flying same as less aerodynamic 100gn broadhead? That's my target vs hunting setup
By the way, I receive my vtm34 70lbs blackout with spot hogg and bits in a few hours. 430gn arrows. I'll test it with my fmj dangerous game too
More point weight is always ideal. It shifts the balance forward, eliminating inconsistencies on the back end, especially with the wind. Also, a heavier point seems to have better penetration for me. I actually prefer 140gn for my hunting rig, but my tournament bow likes 120 because USA Archery limits draw to 60lbs
I wanna try the Z1S any feedback on that bow?
It’s buttery smooth. It’s hard to believe it’s a speed bow. I pulled back a 70# and made them double check that it wasn’t a 60. Fairly dead in the hand too.
Nobody else mentioning that sick origin Leupold bino harness ??
ones of the best jobs in the world
Don’t fix what ain’t broke Cam!!
Why does anyone shoot FMJ’s? They are super heavy gpi. 250 spine is 11.5 gpi.
Let’s say you want to shoot ~550 grains with a 250 spine arrow, 4 fletch, and 28” arrow length. With a 5mm fmj you’re getting an FOC around 12%. That’s assuming no wraps on the back end of the arrow (which would lower FOC)
With a 5mm Victory Rip TKO you have a gpi of 8.9 instead of 11.5. Which allows you to add about 75 grains to the front of the arrow for the same total arrow weight of 550 grains. This gets you to an FOC of 18.5%.
With this increase in FOC pushing the center of pressure that much further behind the center of mass, you could lose a fletch and go to 3 fletch without losing any stability compared to the FMJ build (because the lever arm utilized by the fletchings is so much more efficient with an FOC north or 18% vs 12%). This would reduce the weight on the back end by about 7 grains and get the FOC to 19.4%.
People get way too hung up on foc.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@letsgobrandon8375 all other things equal, having more FOC is better. That’s just a fact.
Have you seen the dangerous game flavor of FMJ? 17 something gpi 🏋
Is Joe the same DL as you?
You definitely don’t have children runnin around that place very often 😂 Seeing those arrows fly along side of that building like that gives me anxiety! Just takes one kid to pop around the corner!
Yea most people set their bow down but it’s fine keep hammering Cam and thanks for the video!👍
Of course procomp are accurate they the greatest arrow ever made!!!
Dudes get new bows sooner than strings.
Don’t tell my wife. Just got the Mathew’s lift.
There ahould be another camera on the target.. 😊
Why? He walks down to each after shooting.
Rogan Hanes 2024. Let’s make it happen people. America 🇺🇸
Wow! Joe's bow shoots flat!
How do I get some 90 lb limbs?
damn...im from England so no Bow hunting at all, no nothing really in this country.....im going to take upo archery though after your videos. so cheers
Ahh feel like I got click baited… I saw Rogan in the title & thought we was going to see Joe Rogan shoot some arrows…