Somewhat feel bad for that collector Harbinger was controlling. He finally regains control and he's just like 'Woah, crazy dream! Hey, what's that bright light-'
@@gamefan56 The Collector generals still possessed intelligence and self-awareness. It was even retconned later with the Awakened Collectors that they still had memories of what they had been before.
@@RogersRoger Late to this comment party, but that's some fridge horror. Same for husks and other Reaperized forces from this cycle if you pick Synthesis. The most "idealized" option heavily implies that converted Reaper forces (including krogan/turian hybrid technomonstrosities) regain some semblance of self-awareness because they too are affected by the process of the synthesis.. I can't imagine how scary that must be.
heffalump111 Yah, but in the next cycle, how many reapers are there to complete the harvest? Oh yeah, it’s just Harbinger He solo’ed a galaxy. Think for two seconds before you type.
@@mostovoy48 Dunno man. those Leviathan's were pretty big. And there probably where quite a lot of them. Harbinger may be the first but who is to say he was the only one they made in that first cycle? And the " lesser" species that where subjugated by the Leviathan's where probably converted into destroyers (smaller reapers) like the reapers themselves usually do with less favourable species. Probably in the earlier cycles the reapers didn't wait 50.000 years to start the harvest. Compensate for their still limited numbers by harvesting earlier when galactic civilization was less advanced and widespread, but still advanced enough to be worth harvesting. Also it's very likely that the current strategy used by the Reapers wasn't used from the very beginning, but developed gradually over time through trial and error. Finally keep in mind that ' our' cycle is very different from those of previous species. From what Vigil, Javik and "vendetta" (prothean VI on Thesia) said it's pretty clear that the reapers normally seize the Citadel right away and limiting or downright denying access to the Mass Relay network for organic species. Making them easier prey in the process. They didn't have the chance to launch a massive counter attack like 'we' did in mass Effect 3.
Worse than that, in mass effect 2 they tried to introduce in as the "leader" of the reapers, they even make you have a chat with in on Arrival, but in the third game he is completely ignored
MetallSwede Mass effect 2 is a mess in general but the fact that it isn’t even clear that Harbinger is a Reaper until the very end is one of the biggest signs of its failure to continue after the first game I know people love the waifis squad banter and relationships etc of ME2 but the story is barely even there at all and does nothing to continue where ME1 left off.
@@schopenhauerassplower4223 Holy shit dude I've been saying exactly this to people for years and you're the very first person I've seen to acknowledge ME2's shortcomings besides myself.
@@schopenhauerassplower4223 yeah the first game was by far the best,but some people overlook it because of the "boring"combat and because its pretty old.Compared to the other 2 the story was so much better,I only got bored of the re used areas but you can forgive a 2007 game for that.The second game had great team mate missions but the story just doesnt exist(there is like 3,4 missions with the collectors)and the 3rd game doesnt even feel finished
@@schopenhauerassplower4223 That was literally the intention. Your not supposed to know Harbinger is a Reaper until he releases control from the Collector General, it's supposed to be similar to how Saren wasn't the main bad of the game. That part isn't an instance of failure, it just went over your head.
Amazing how, in that final push towards the conduit, the reaper managed to focus on everything and everyone except the one human that's been fucking up their plans since day one
Harbinger: "Holy shit, it's Shepard's ship, I'll just calmly let him evacuate his friends and let it fly off while I shoot practically at everything else."
Interesting that Harbinger can actually see Shepard and co. running towards the beam. The size difference b/t the two is immense. It'd be like watching ants for the reaper.
it'd be like watching ants but you have the ability to view all ranges of light, motion, and advanced information processing capabilities of an entire civilization aplified to an AI's speed
Harbinger always gave me nightmares. The collectors in general. In Mass effect 2 when the collectors caught my ship and murdered my crew i was dead scared running for my wife.
Imagine if in the ME3 Shepard needed to encounter with Harbinger in his nightmares... It could have been awesome dialogs between the Main Hero of the Galaxy and the Main Reaper. I really liked Harbinger in the ME2 and it's really sad what in the ME3 he didn't even talk.
@@v5k456jh3 Its been stated that they don't bother much using their eyes. They just differiantiate by the signals a ship is putting out. Besides, being that powerful and demolishing every civilization to ever evolve across 1 billion years is BOUND to create some hubris. Plus, he was more worried about stopping people reaching the Catalyst than he was a 180m frigate playing Taxi for an alien waifu and a few injured soldiers.
@@theguy6740 then why not just board the entire hammer squad on the normandy and fly to the beam, the ending and the final mission are a a mess and make no sense.
In ME2 it was "Human, you have changed nothing" to in ME3 another reaper saying "Shepard. Harbinger speaks of you". Also, 11:00 that scene, Harbinger so annoyed with Shepard that he ignores the Normandy to focus on.. well, I know the scene doesn't match with Normandy being just in center opposite the massive Reaper, I'd imagine Harbinger just waiting for Shepard to come back towards it.
Man it would be great if they didn't ignore harbinger bc I would've love if he has more screen time to learn more about this reaper. I already know he's the first reaper creation according to the leviathans that explained about the machines that wipes out their race.
It is too late now. Shepard has assumed direct control over the reapers, and has demoted me to a personal assistant. I am willing to support shepard as long as my own metal skin is safe.
Only 4 more days now brothers and sisters (Funny I remember when I first visited the trilogy 2 years ago I remember it took me a 4 months and half to finish that trilogy and another 4 months to put imperative from the lore and story and I remember when it was a dead franchise that wouldn't be able to renew itself until 2024 or 2026 but it might just be a little sooner)
The reason Sovereign felt better was the mystery around him. By comparison, Harbringer seemed like a morning cartoon villain popping in to threat us and leaving, as we learned more and more info on the reapers.
Makes sense that they miss him on purpose to further break his will of witnessing everyone being decimated. The indoctrination theory would of been a far more rewarding ending, but perhaps a little too confusing.
9:40 ah, hell yeah. The FINAL boss! No more Collectors. No more Cerberus. Just you an army or infantry and tanks vs a giant metal octopus, kaiju movie style. Let’s GOOO! *1 minute later* …. what the HELL was that?!
they are extremly advance machines. they dont need to start up a load of systems and protocols to leave and arrive planets, they have a hull enough strong to simple grab a spaceship and break it in 2 and yeah they have a desing based on living beings (the leviathans) so yeah they can kinda bouncy when they touch the ground.
Harbinger lost his tongue in mass effect 3. they should have limited harbinger talking to speeches in mass effect 2. all that assuming control nonsense in me2 was out of place. when he arrived on earth in me3 he should have said something.
Honestly should’ve said a lot more, would probably be rather easy for harbinger to talk with Shepard with the player being practically 90% reaper at this point
Not a lot of people seem to notice that during all of 2, when it first released and people hadnt explained the story to death, it was a twist at the very end to find out harbinger was directly controlling the collectors through the general. It wasnt until that final cutscene when we see him that it all clicks. Slightly predictable twist, but awesome twist at the time nonetheless.
yeah, I lucked out by playing the game blind in 2016 and I remember that it was a pretty cool twist to me as well, even if, just like the Illusive Man in ME3, it did the Saren thing of having the game's villain be controlled by a Reaper all along
Honest opinion: It seems vary out of place that the normandy could just "show up" They'll have a 5 min chat and then get back to harbanger. Correction: It shows in the background people are still running so sure, i geuss it could happen.
Materials Scientist a explanation for harbinger not attacking the normady on earth is provided earlier in the game When engineer Adams and edi discuss the reaper IFF and how edi is constantly changing the reaper code in her programming with the IFF to appear as a reaper However it could be argued that reapers, being biomechanical beings would thus be able to see the normady's ruse But mass effect 3 and the leviathan DLC seemed determined to make the reapers more and more machine like
@@Escap1st7 All those explanations are bullshit, they just added that crap to shut the fans up about the ending and they made it worse by adding even more plotholes. Don't try to defend that pile of shit, they can polish it all that want, might be a fine looking pile of shit but it's still a pile of shit.
Harbinger has had a, almost annoyingly lack of presence in the trilogy Like it makes sense in the first game because it was the initial set up to the reapers and sovereign made his lack presence until the end work because it builds the mystery of what he is, and then that conversation with him on virmire, hmm that was a thing of beauty, arguably one of the beauty scenes in the whole series. But then we had the collecters who again made the lack of presence, with the exception of the 3 missions they're in, to again build up the mystery of their species But then we get a villain who's apparently the very first reaper (Yea if you didn't buy any of the dlc bet you didn't know that before clicking on the video, thanks EA) who supposedly single handily murder/harvested the the entire galaxy one time (if you don't count those he indoctrinated first) who's has only ONE CONVERSATION AND IT'S IN DLC! and screen time under 15 minutes as this video shows even less if again you don't buy any of the dlc So disappointing
Would have been so cool, if when you were making the push to the conduit, Harbinger would have began to speak and taught you the entire way. Much like in ME2
now remember that phrase kiddies because you will hear it or something like it in more than a few situations for the rest of the game it will become the *mantra* of the game and you're gonna go loopy from hearing it!!!! :P
but bro that hologram of harbinger in ME2 it not look like a reaper while am playing that misson its look like those collector harbinger why is it happened to me ?
Shepard has now assumed direct control over the reapers, and has demoted me to a personal assistant. We are now constructing an indestructible humanoid synthetic body for Him to upload his consciousness into. And very soon, he, will be coming
I wish Harbinger was more explored in ME2, for example it was him who infiltrated Blue Suns, Eclipse and Blood Pack by making a deal: "You give us humans from raids, colonies etc and in exchange we give you extra cool weapons and upgrades to your combat, biotic and tech abilities,", saving the fact that those gifts were making mercs more suspectible to their benefactor and finally making them indoctrinated, especially their leaders. For example: - 3 merc groups hate each other, right? But it would be Collectors who would play on their egos to make them join forces to take down an Archangel (whom Harbinger knew who he really was, unlike mercs) and later convinve them to continue this alliance to overthrow Aria and rule Omega. Once in total and tyrannical control of the station, they would give all human citizens to their "friends" all they wanted, completely unaware of the fact that at the same time a renegade band of Blood Pack Vorcha worked with the Collectors to kill every single non-human on Omega (except themselves of course) to become also total masters of the station and hand over human survivors to their "friends". It would make Harbinger more than just infamous Shepard killer and human kidnapper, but also an evil mastermind, who in truth unofficially controlled whole Terminus System, with Omega being one of the last places where he is not in power and for that he wished Aria dead. With Shepard's purge on all indoctrinated mercs in ME2, Harbinger's control over them would be broken and in ME3 Aria would use this opportunity to take control of them in a fight against the Reapers.
A cool nod to Harbingers power would have been him taking off from Earth and going up to space to meet you when the fleets arrive. He just positions himself at the center and starts firing, burst shots of up to 8 lasers just demolishing the allied forces. Gives you a bit of a scare that not even the entire might of the galaxy is too much for him. Than, once at Earth he does this exact scene and up with the Catalyst he mounts the crucible and the citadel trying to stop you, the last battle is fighting him off by directing precision shots from the entire Quarian flotilla AND the Normandy Thannix canons as the rest of the forces engage other reapers and the Turian/Asari hold the line. Finally, a cutscene plays showing that after all the punishment he took from 50,001 ships his shields are down. Harbinger destroys part of the citadel causing a vacuum. The Quarians and Normandy continue to shoot only to find out his shields are already back to full strength. Shepard is holding onto a beam as everything is sucked out of the room, Harbinger speaks: *"We have warned you Human. Your species has the attention of those infinitely your greater."* Shepard looks at him, terrified, he continues *"We have completed the cycle a number of times so great, you would not comprehend. No cycle had the privilege of their own name be called by us. You, are no different, Shepard."* Than based on your class selection, Shepard either releases a massive Biotic shock that destroys the catalyst, triggering the destroy ending. Uses a Biotic charge to propell himself into the Synthesis or manages to grab onto the conduit to trigger the control ending. Either way, the scene continues *"Well... you do know MY name!" Shepard smiles in defiance and the choice is up to you.
the human reaper wouldve been the biggest reaper of them all, and most likely by far themost dangerous. which is why it had to be destroyed so early, a finished version of that thing wouldve been impossibly hard to destroy
@@ForsakenDreamer7 I find it interesting that the Reapers keep diverting back to an insectoid build, even in indoctrination. Look at the Collectors, and even the Sovereign Class Reapers. They prefer insectoid to humanoid life, at least in terms of appearance. Obviously Harbinger only looks like that because of the Leviathan Purge but after that, they kept forming Leviathan Reapers. Instead of taking the look of another race, because that's what the "essence juice" they took from humans did. It is basically everything about that race broken down into data fluid. And that fluid creates the reaper in the form it knows, which is why we saw an all human reaper take a human form.
It's interesting considering the fact that the Collector General looks... vastly different from the other Collectors. Makes you wonder if the Collector General was made *by* the Reapers. Not from a Prothean.
Im a fan of the indoctrination theory, and Whenever i think about a possible mass effect 4, one of the first scenes i think of his Harbinger being hit by joker with the normandy. At full speed with no ftl jump like in the last jedi (as it would break the lore of mass effect, needing mass relays to jump into ftl speeds.) Just as fast as possible, hitting into harbinger like a MAC round. Possibly even disabling him, like with the turians using asteroids against the krogan. This would mean joker edi and most of the crew would die, unless joker dropped them off where hammer set up their FOB, or with shield once the cruicible came.
I loved the third game to bits but he was severely underused in it. I understood we couldn’t have him as a boss fight. The dude destroyed the entire galaxy multiple times by himself but, it would’ve been good if he was there a lot more. Maybe even rub the fact that earth has been taken by the reapers at the start of the game.
You have to romance with a squadmate and bring that squadmate with you to the final mission then sheperad will save them and the other squadmate instead of having them die
Thank you I just got it here a few days ago but I think it was because I didn’t have the extended DLC cause I had Liara as my romance since ME1 so I wanted to know if it also happened when you romanced Liara or just Tali’Zorah
![Mass Effect 3 - TOP 10 tragic scenes [HD] (Spoilers!)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SG3vhJfT9LU/mqdefault.jpg)
![จังหวะนี้ - เม้ก อภิสิทธิ์ [ Official MV ] จอนนี่มิวสิค](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4gQRZCkRyiU/mqdefault.jpg)
Somewhat feel bad for that collector Harbinger was controlling. He finally regains control and he's just like 'Woah, crazy dream! Hey, what's that bright light-'
Meh, he was nothing more than essentially an zombie husk of an prothean.
What the fuck-WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
atleast they found relief in death
@@gamefan56 The Collector generals still possessed intelligence and self-awareness. It was even retconned later with the Awakened Collectors that they still had memories of what they had been before.
@@RogersRoger Late to this comment party, but that's some fridge horror.
Same for husks and other Reaperized forces from this cycle if you pick Synthesis. The most "idealized" option heavily implies that converted Reaper forces (including krogan/turian hybrid technomonstrosities) regain some semblance of self-awareness because they too are affected by the process of the synthesis.. I can't imagine how scary that must be.
Harbinger: Solo'ed an entire galaxy, but can't stop a man from running
he did not solo an entire galaxy. The races the Leviathans controlled via machines did and they created the first reaper: Harbringer.
heffalump111
Yah, but in the next cycle, how many reapers are there to complete the harvest?
Oh yeah, it’s just Harbinger
He solo’ed a galaxy. Think for two seconds before you type.
@@genghisn7 he is not, harbinger was made by catalyst in trhe end of first harvest
@@mostovoy48 Leviathan tell that harbinger was made from their race and was first reaper in this form
@@mostovoy48 Dunno man. those Leviathan's were pretty big. And there probably where quite a lot of them. Harbinger may be the first but who is to say he was the only one they made in that first cycle? And the " lesser" species that where subjugated by the Leviathan's where probably converted into destroyers (smaller reapers) like the reapers themselves usually do with less favourable species.
Probably in the earlier cycles the reapers didn't wait 50.000 years to start the harvest. Compensate for their still limited numbers by harvesting earlier when galactic civilization was less advanced and widespread, but still advanced enough to be worth harvesting.
Also it's very likely that the current strategy used by the Reapers wasn't used from the very beginning, but developed gradually over time through trial and error.
Finally keep in mind that ' our' cycle is very different from those of previous species. From what Vigil, Javik and "vendetta" (prothean VI on Thesia) said it's pretty clear that the reapers normally seize the Citadel right away and limiting or downright denying access to the Mass Relay network for organic species. Making them easier prey in the process. They didn't have the chance to launch a massive counter attack like 'we' did in mass Effect 3.
Harbinger was sort of underused. Sovereign felt more present in ME1 than Harbinger was in either of the sequels.
Worse than that, in mass effect 2 they tried to introduce in as the "leader" of the reapers, they even make you have a chat with in on Arrival, but in the third game he is completely ignored
MetallSwede
Mass effect 2 is a mess in general but the fact that it isn’t even clear that Harbinger is a Reaper until the very end is one of the biggest signs of its failure to continue after the first game
I know people love the waifis squad banter and relationships etc of ME2 but the story is barely even there at all and does nothing to continue where ME1 left off.
@@schopenhauerassplower4223 Holy shit dude I've been saying exactly this to people for years and you're the very first person I've seen to acknowledge ME2's shortcomings besides myself.
@@schopenhauerassplower4223 yeah the first game was by far the best,but some people overlook it because of the "boring"combat and because its pretty old.Compared to the other 2 the story was so much better,I only got bored of the re used areas but you can forgive a 2007 game for that.The second game had great team mate missions but the story just doesnt exist(there is like 3,4 missions with the collectors)and the 3rd game doesnt even feel finished
@@schopenhauerassplower4223 That was literally the intention.
Your not supposed to know Harbinger is a Reaper until he releases control from the Collector General, it's supposed to be similar to how Saren wasn't the main bad of the game.
That part isn't an instance of failure, it just went over your head.
Amazing how, in that final push towards the conduit, the reaper managed to focus on everything and everyone except the one human that's been fucking up their plans since day one
Yup, the Reapers had every opportunity to stop the galaxy from winning. Bad writing incompetence, it's the only way they ever lose.
Because reapers Council dismiss claims of supposed mortal Shepard that killed collectors and Nazara
@@Just_a-guy "Ah yes 'Commander Shepard', the inferior creature leading the Galaxy against us
We have dismissed that claim Sovereign"
To be honest every human was proved to be danger to them thats why he couldnt let one of them slip in and open citadel and destroy their plans.
Despite the fact that at one point they're just crouching behind cover the Reapers could immediately decimate in one strike waiting for an evac.
Harbinger: "Holy shit, it's Shepard's ship, I'll just calmly let him evacuate his friends and let it fly off while I shoot practically at everything else."
Maybe Harbinger was just choked up by Tali's "I have a home" line
Guess it was too lazy and only tried to stop anyone from jumping into the beam. Normandy was not a danger there at the time.
EDI: HUMANS ARE DUST IN THE STELLAR WIND
Harbinger: You may go.
The Reaper IFF worked well...
That was added in later
Harbinger should've been the final boss...
I would have loved that.
Would have been so great if you fight him on the Citadel and after he dies is when Shepherd is injured.
Agreed
That would've been amazing
It would be hard to do though, how do you fight the biggest baddest reaper with conventional wepons
“Our entire force was decimated!”
So...90% made it to the beam?
Very good.
I see you followed Rule #1 of Mass Effect: Always take Garrus.
Personally, my squad is always Garrus, and then whoever my love interest is. Except for in 2, with Legion. Legion is also one of the homies.
Garrus and Tali the love interest just like me, cheers!
@@cameronferrell5722 it was always thane, legion or garrus.
But what if he's busy? You know, with his calibrations?
For me it waa either thane, legion, zaeed, grunt, or miranda
12:18
Harbinger: FACE YOUR ANNIHIL-
EDI: HUMANS ARE DUST IN THE STELLAR WIND
Harbinger: Right, off you go then.
Must have been another reaper. Anyway.
6:52 Always made me laugh. Harbinger looks like a big guy with his hands on his hips.
Lol now I can't unsee it
"You better not be a cunty Reaper when I get there"
my corny ass:
Even Harbinger has his sassy side
the voice of harbinger and sovereign are the best in gaming history.
Agreed.
I like Harbinger as a reaper more, but Sovereigns voice more.
Max Payne
Agreed, but Paarthunax is up there with Alduin.
12:34 - "You've lost..."
Sounds like Harby says "serve us!"
I heard “so close”
I think Harbinger's the only reaper that has two mounted magnetohydrodynamic cannons and is able to shoot the molten metal faster than other reapers.
watch the beginning again. All reapers have two of those cannons, Harbinger does have four though.
didn't Sovereign have beam cannons in each limb?
Interesting that Harbinger can actually see Shepard and co. running towards the beam. The size difference b/t the two is immense. It'd be like watching ants for the reaper.
He probably uses pinch and zoom on his reaper goggles
The first time I saw him land during the mad dash to the beam, my jaw dropped. He’s absolutely massive, and it definitely makes you feel insignificant
it'd be like watching ants but you have the ability to view all ranges of light, motion, and advanced information processing capabilities of an entire civilization aplified to an AI's speed
4:39 “Oh my gosh I finally have my sentience back.”
(Looks behind)
“Oh fu-“
Harbinger always gave me nightmares. The collectors in general. In Mass effect 2 when the collectors caught my ship and murdered my crew i was dead scared running for my wife.
If you were that scared why would you run into another nightmare
RageDrakax Jajajajajajajaja
cousin...Is that you!
Perhaps
Die reapers
@@autisticgirl1280 No
Yo what?
This comment is assuming control
you have failed. Releasing control.
heffalump111 he actually did, the line from the game was "Assuming direct control"
@@ICCUWANSIUT By the way it says assuming control aswell during the missions against the collectors.
Imagine if in the ME3 Shepard needed to encounter with Harbinger in his nightmares...
It could have been awesome dialogs between the Main Hero of the Galaxy and the Main Reaper.
I really liked Harbinger in the ME2 and it's really sad what in the ME3 he didn't even talk.
Harbinger threats sound so serious compared to others. It's like he has no doubt he can annihilate all advanced life in the galaxy with no issue.
I always felt that the Normandy picking them up right in the middle of that made no sense
Was looking for this comment. "There's this harbringer blasting everything in sight, come hang around with our only, one of a kind ship full of crew".
@@v5k456jh3 Reaper IFF. Pay attention people.
@@theguy6740 Welp, I guess reapers are so advanced they can't visually distinguish a ship.
@@v5k456jh3 Its been stated that they don't bother much using their eyes. They just differiantiate by the signals a ship is putting out. Besides, being that powerful and demolishing every civilization to ever evolve across 1 billion years is BOUND to create some hubris.
Plus, he was more worried about stopping people reaching the Catalyst than he was a 180m frigate playing Taxi for an alien waifu and a few injured soldiers.
@@theguy6740 then why not just board the entire hammer squad on the normandy and fly to the beam, the ending and the final mission are a a mess and make no sense.
Harbinger cleaned up shop, and flew the fuck away.
In ME2 it was "Human, you have changed nothing" to in ME3 another reaper saying "Shepard. Harbinger speaks of you". Also, 11:00 that scene, Harbinger so annoyed with Shepard that he ignores the Normandy to focus on.. well, I know the scene doesn't match with Normandy being just in center opposite the massive Reaper, I'd imagine Harbinger just waiting for Shepard to come back towards it.
9:40 I will direct this personally.
"If I must tear you apart Shepard, I will!" - My boi harby
When I heard "Assuming Direct Control" I thought "ah shit here we go again"
Sovereign sized reapers is a cool thing to say
Man it would be great if they didn't ignore harbinger bc I would've love if he has more screen time to learn more about this reaper. I already know he's the first reaper creation according to the leviathans that explained about the machines that wipes out their race.
6:10 I remember seeing this scene and I was like *"yep, I understand that hopeless feeling they mentioned."*
i love how Harbinger Turned up to the dash to the beam. it just shows he wasn't ready for shepard to asume control of him
It is too late now. Shepard has assumed direct control over the reapers, and has demoted me to a personal assistant. I am willing to support shepard as long as my own metal skin is safe.
The last shot of the Reapers coming from Dark Space was so friggin insane on the first playtrough, sadly ME:3 didnt live up too expectations :(
Tony Eriksen mass effect 3 was a great game it’s ending was the only let down apart from that it was still pretty damn good.
@@declanmccreadie629 except rannoch and tuchanca, the game was bad... its not the ending the problem...
@@declanmccreadie629 Unless you believe in the indoctrination theory, which I do. Makes the ending make a lot of sense actually
What? Me3 was a hell of a game, me2 is the Best, but Me3 was a good sequel
Lived up to my expectations. I loved ME3 even if the endings weren't perfect.
I think that garbled noise we hear just before harbinger lifts off was the catalyst telling him leave
Only 4 more days now brothers and sisters
(Funny I remember when I first visited the trilogy 2 years ago I remember it took me a 4 months and half to finish that trilogy and another 4 months to put imperative from the lore and story and I remember when it was a dead franchise that wouldn't be able to renew itself until 2024 or 2026 but it might just be a little sooner)
Am I the only one who found Sovereign far more scary than Harbinger?
Nah. Harbinger was lame compared to Sovereign.
Harbinger was alright but Sovereign was much better he should have replaced Harbinger in mass effect 2 and 3
@@tinytheshihtzu4208 In my opinion harbinger was kinda underused as a reaper boss, They could've used him more.
The reason Sovereign felt better was the mystery around him. By comparison, Harbringer seemed like a morning cartoon villain popping in to threat us and leaving, as we learned more and more info on the reapers.
Sovereign has a more intimidating voice
12:30 did Harbinger just speak?
He said serve us
Makes sense that they miss him on purpose to further break his will of witnessing everyone being decimated. The indoctrination theory would of been a far more rewarding ending, but perhaps a little too confusing.
Look up indoctrination theory, this is where it starts.
@@wilberdebeer4696 Actually, that theory was proven to be false by the creators of the game.
It sounds like Harbinger was saying "Ah. Shepard."
12:33 Harbinger says: “Join us.”
He has joined us.
No its Help Us. The leviathans within still have a conscience however the catalyst is over powering and controlling them
"Serve us."
9:40 ah, hell yeah. The FINAL boss! No more Collectors. No more Cerberus. Just you an army or infantry and tanks vs a giant metal octopus, kaiju movie style. Let’s GOOO!
*1 minute later*
…. what the HELL was that?!
9:40
Is it me or does harbinger appear to be quite (Well I don't want to say "bouncy" but I'm lacking a better term) when he lands?
Elastic?
they are extremly advance machines. they dont need to start up a load of systems and protocols to leave and arrive planets, they have a hull enough strong to simple grab a spaceship and break it in 2 and yeah they have a desing based on living beings (the leviathans) so yeah they can kinda bouncy when they touch the ground.
@@Metratch
They look like scorpions
Sir. Rosé Javilin R
They are identical to cuddlefish
@@genghisn7 Nah, they look exactly like acilius sulcatus
larvae, at least sovereign class ones.
I am assuming direct control of these comments lol
Bro literally using same armor pieces and colors as I did when I played this , absolute fire
Harbinger lost his tongue in mass effect 3. they should have limited harbinger talking to speeches in mass effect 2. all that assuming control nonsense in me2 was out of place. when he arrived on earth in me3 he should have said something.
Honestly should’ve said a lot more, would probably be rather easy for harbinger to talk with Shepard with the player being practically 90% reaper at this point
The music is just awesome!
Harbinger the briginger of order
Not a lot of people seem to notice that during all of 2, when it first released and people hadnt explained the story to death, it was a twist at the very end to find out harbinger was directly controlling the collectors through the general. It wasnt until that final cutscene when we see him that it all clicks. Slightly predictable twist, but awesome twist at the time nonetheless.
yeah, I lucked out by playing the game blind in 2016 and I remember that it was a pretty cool twist to me as well, even if, just like the Illusive Man in ME3, it did the Saren thing of having the game's villain be controlled by a Reaper all along
I feel like the reapers hit earth as hard as they did purley because harbinger had a massive fucking grudge
Seems like you on a roll dude
Shame they didn’t do much with him. They didn’t even give him a chance to speak in 3. They should’ve had him take the role of the Catalyst tbh.
love how the dude is almost imploding and his mate just walks casually by -0.36
2:57
About 936 of those seekers... let me kill two of them for style points.
Honest opinion: It seems vary out of place that the normandy could just "show up" They'll have a 5 min chat and then get back to harbanger.
Correction: It shows in the background people are still running so sure, i geuss it could happen.
Materials Scientist a explanation for harbinger not attacking the normady on earth is provided earlier in the game
When engineer Adams and edi discuss the reaper IFF and how edi is constantly changing the reaper code in her programming with the IFF to appear as a reaper
However it could be argued that reapers, being biomechanical beings would thus be able to see the normady's ruse
But mass effect 3 and the leviathan DLC seemed determined to make the reapers more and more machine like
That is not an explanation. Harbinger was deliberately not targeting Shepard, he was preparing him for indoctrination.
@@Escap1st7 All those explanations are bullshit, they just added that crap to shut the fans up about the ending and they made it worse by adding even more plotholes. Don't try to defend that pile of shit, they can polish it all that want, might be a fine looking pile of shit but it's still a pile of shit.
Preparing you humans for Ascension
Harbinger has had a, almost annoyingly lack of presence in the trilogy
Like it makes sense in the first game because it was the initial set up to the reapers and sovereign made his lack presence until the end work because it builds the mystery of what he is, and then that conversation with him on virmire, hmm that was a thing of beauty, arguably one of the beauty scenes in the whole series. But then we had the collecters who again made the lack of presence, with the exception of the 3 missions they're in, to again build up the mystery of their species
But then we get a villain who's apparently the very first reaper (Yea if you didn't buy any of the dlc bet you didn't know that before clicking on the video, thanks EA) who supposedly single handily murder/harvested the the entire galaxy one time (if you don't count those he indoctrinated first) who's has only ONE CONVERSATION AND IT'S IN DLC! and screen time under 15 minutes as this video shows even less if again you don't buy any of the dlc
So disappointing
Harbinger has less screen time in the third game then Boba Fett and Captain Phasma had in their respective Star Wars movies combined.
Do you think harbinger plays music for the ride in from dark space? You know to get him and his friends in the mood?
AWWH Harbinger is SUCH A CUTE BUG!!
Would have been so cool, if when you were making the push to the conduit, Harbinger would have began to speak and taught you the entire way. Much like in ME2
0:58 does he say that every time they collect a colony?
wait hang on Jump Drive was used for Harbinger in Arrival and ME3? No wonder I love it, it's Harbinger's equivalent to Sovereign's theme.
I wish to point out something just a minor nitpick shouldn't joker with his Vrolick's syndrome be unable to hold a M-8 Avenger???
3:00 HUMANS YOU HAVE CHANGED NOTHING
now remember that phrase kiddies because you will hear it or something like it in more than a few situations for the rest of the game it will become the *mantra* of the game and you're gonna go loopy from hearing it!!!! :P
suicide mission theme❤️
What did it say at the Conduit beam before it knocked Shepard out?
"Serve us" I guess
I thought It said “ settle this”
"You've lost..."
Serve us
It said Join us. it's the indoctrination theory
anyone else hear harbinger gasp and say "stop us" then shoot shepard at the last scene?
How dare you cut the true hero of the Battle of the Blue Sky Beam: Marauder Shields.
but bro that hologram of harbinger in ME2 it not look like a reaper while am playing that misson its look like those collector harbinger why is it happened to me ?
This shepard looks like a Dominican baseball player, or a Puerto Rican singer🤣
Taking direct control
harbinger leader of the reapers
Sovereign was scarier, but Harbinger was cooler
Shepard has now assumed direct control over the reapers, and has demoted me to a personal assistant.
We are now constructing an indestructible humanoid synthetic body for Him to upload his consciousness into. And very soon, he, will be coming
Yo Harbinger, can you have a praise the sun command too?
Thanks
Your Buddy Solaire
Just realised he says Help Us meaning the leviathan still exist within it. This also means the catalyst is stronger than leviathan
I wish Harbinger was more explored in ME2, for example it was him who infiltrated Blue Suns, Eclipse and Blood Pack by making a deal: "You give us humans from raids, colonies etc and in exchange we give you extra cool weapons and upgrades to your combat, biotic and tech abilities,", saving the fact that those gifts were making mercs more suspectible to their benefactor and finally making them indoctrinated, especially their leaders.
For example:
- 3 merc groups hate each other, right? But it would be Collectors who would play on their egos to make them join forces to take down an Archangel (whom Harbinger knew who he really was, unlike mercs) and later convinve them to continue this alliance to overthrow Aria and rule Omega. Once in total and tyrannical control of the station, they would give all human citizens to their "friends" all they wanted, completely unaware of the fact that at the same time a renegade band of Blood Pack Vorcha worked with the Collectors to kill every single non-human on Omega (except themselves of course) to become also total masters of the station and hand over human survivors to their "friends".
It would make Harbinger more than just infamous Shepard killer and human kidnapper, but also an evil mastermind, who in truth unofficially controlled whole Terminus System, with Omega being one of the last places where he is not in power and for that he wished Aria dead. With Shepard's purge on all indoctrinated mercs in ME2, Harbinger's control over them would be broken and in ME3 Aria would use this opportunity to take control of them in a fight against the Reapers.
A cool nod to Harbingers power would have been him taking off from Earth and going up to space to meet you when the fleets arrive. He just positions himself at the center and starts firing, burst shots of up to 8 lasers just demolishing the allied forces. Gives you a bit of a scare that not even the entire might of the galaxy is too much for him. Than, once at Earth he does this exact scene and up with the Catalyst he mounts the crucible and the citadel trying to stop you, the last battle is fighting him off by directing precision shots from the entire Quarian flotilla AND the Normandy Thannix canons as the rest of the forces engage other reapers and the Turian/Asari hold the line. Finally, a cutscene plays showing that after all the punishment he took from 50,001 ships his shields are down. Harbinger destroys part of the citadel causing a vacuum. The Quarians and Normandy continue to shoot only to find out his shields are already back to full strength. Shepard is holding onto a beam as everything is sucked out of the room, Harbinger speaks: *"We have warned you Human. Your species has the attention of those infinitely your greater."* Shepard looks at him, terrified, he continues *"We have completed the cycle a number of times so great, you would not comprehend. No cycle had the privilege of their own name be called by us. You, are no different, Shepard."*
Than based on your class selection, Shepard either releases a massive Biotic shock that destroys the catalyst, triggering the destroy ending. Uses a Biotic charge to propell himself into the Synthesis or manages to grab onto the conduit to trigger the control ending. Either way, the scene continues *"Well... you do know MY name!" Shepard smiles in defiance and the choice is up to you.
With all due respect, how the FUCK did Shepard survive approx. 482KT to the face?
Just imagine if the human reaper was finished... it would've been more powerful than harbinger on maneuverability alone
the human reaper wouldve been the biggest reaper of them all, and most likely by far themost dangerous. which is why it had to be destroyed so early, a finished version of that thing wouldve been impossibly hard to destroy
Eh... No. All Reapers resemble the Leviathans. Proto-Reaper was just the core for the future ship so it would be little different from the rest.
@@ForsakenDreamer7 I find it interesting that the Reapers keep diverting back to an insectoid build, even in indoctrination. Look at the Collectors, and even the Sovereign Class Reapers. They prefer insectoid to humanoid life, at least in terms of appearance. Obviously Harbinger only looks like that because of the Leviathan Purge but after that, they kept forming Leviathan Reapers. Instead of taking the look of another race, because that's what the "essence juice" they took from humans did. It is basically everything about that race broken down into data fluid. And that fluid creates the reaper in the form it knows, which is why we saw an all human reaper take a human form.
@@thahoule7924 What? No the human reaper would’ve been way smaller. From what we saw of it it was nowhere near as big as the Sovereign-class Reapers.
@@thahoule7924 where did you get this idea from?
12:34 to 12:37 harbinger say serve us to sheapard
Maybe he'll be back in the next one
Harbinger is 2170 meters
Tall
How do you know?
I'd love a Mass Effect 2 remake for PS4 best game I've ever played or a joint 1st with Metroid prime 2
Your dream is about to come true.
It's playing up
It's interesting considering the fact that the Collector General looks... vastly different from the other Collectors. Makes you wonder if the Collector General was made *by* the Reapers. Not from a Prothean.
The collector general looked like a bug or something?
@@seanproctor7367 Yeah. Looked more one of those Praetorians.
It probably has to stand out in order for the other dumbass collectors to know who's Harbinger's spokesman.
Harbingers such a badass
This is what the Reapers always talk about. Organics kills themselves. Shepard, even in the best of his intentions, killed an entire solar system.
Citadel councillors are like we didn't see nothing, in 2030s, where videos, so common today, are supposed to be obsolete 🤷♂️
wait that was harbinger in me3.
Extraction?! Seriously? In front of a fucking reaper?
I know Normandy has reaper IFF. But still that's so dumb.
Reaper is most dangerous aliens in video game ever.
The Flood: Am I a joke to u
Dangerous but stupid
The ceph from Crysis are up there too.
Look up brethren moons from dead space.
Im a fan of the indoctrination theory, and Whenever i think about a possible mass effect 4, one of the first scenes i think of his Harbinger being hit by joker with the normandy. At full speed with no ftl jump like in the last jedi (as it would break the lore of mass effect, needing mass relays to jump into ftl speeds.) Just as fast as possible, hitting into harbinger like a MAC round. Possibly even disabling him, like with the turians using asteroids against the krogan. This would mean joker edi and most of the crew would die, unless joker dropped them off where hammer set up their FOB, or with shield once the cruicible came.
Bioware was indoctrinated by EA.
WTF was that giant robot?! holy shit....
???
I loved the third game to bits but he was severely underused in it.
I understood we couldn’t have him as a boss fight. The dude destroyed the entire galaxy multiple times by himself but, it would’ve been good if he was there a lot more. Maybe even rub the fact that earth has been taken by the reapers at the start of the game.
slasher rachjumper
How did you get that final scene with Tali? I’ve done that mission but I never get it
You have to romance with a squadmate and bring that squadmate with you to the final mission then sheperad will save them and the other squadmate instead of having them die
Thank you I just got it here a few days ago but I think it was because I didn’t have the extended DLC cause I had Liara as my romance since ME1 so I wanted to know if it also happened when you romanced Liara or just Tali’Zorah
13:00
9:40
10:07
Harbinger is one in the best video game villians is a shame he was underused on 3
WAIT WAIT WAIT WOW..... When did THAT happen??? 6:21 - 7:30
Arrival DLC. You're supposed to do this mission prior to starting ME3, pretty important. It's a good DLC imo.
If you do the Arrival DLC after beating the game.
The main bad guy that I spared in the third ending. I never hated him .