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This is why Shepard should have been wearing a dashcam on his armor. Majority of the reason the Council didn't believe him was that nothing he did or heard was ever recorded
Exactly the council wants some evidence to back up our claims and 95% of the time we have none or conventantly the evidence stops existing, like the VI on Illos. People like to forget that when we actually bring them Tali's evidence they DO believe us. Hell ME1 taught them not to just blindly believe everything one of thier Spectres say.
But recordings can be deep faked, in fact, in mass effect 3 there were a few times where the possibility of a recording being a deep fake was mentioned.
The Council believed him, they knew Reapers were real after ME1, but they didn't have a plan on how to stop them even in ME3. So, they just decided to keep this information in secret because Galaxy needed a stability and besides, Shepard didn't specify when Reapers are gonna attack. The council thought they had decades or centuries to prepare, because Sovereign failed at activating Citadel Mass Relay and bringing his friends in, but later writers forgot about this and Reapers needed like 3 years to come back. Honestly, Bioware themself didn't know what to do with the Reapers. In ME1 they needed Citadel to come into Milky Way, then in ME2 they could just use the Alpha Relay, but in ME3 they just roll in without use of Mass Relay.
- Oh Commander, there are evil machines attacking our homeworlds, could you please help us? - I actually came here to ask for your help on Earth. Hadn't I warned you since 2183? - Ah yes, 'Reapers'. BTW, we aren't going to help you. So, will you help us?
It was always dumbfounding how Cole’s testimony (the dockworker at Eden Prime) was dismissed by the Council. Traumatized or not, the fact he saw two turians, one calling the other Saren who shot the other in the back, is a bit too much info to be considered as rambling? Hell, he could’ve prob ID Saren if given the chance, no way he couldn’t recognize him with all those tubes sticking out of him.
@@Lajos_Kelemen I always found it odd, that the Council didn't find a cyborg looking Turian a wee bit suspicious. Like he looked like a normal Turian with his big glowing blue eyes 😄
@@Lajos_KelemenI think you mean Powell. Cole was the guy in that building with two others. Shouldn’t the fact that this dockworker (Powell) said Saren’s name be compelling evidence? Let’s forget him stating the backstabbing etc, the fact he mentioned a name (Saren) he shouldn’t know, should be pretty damning. I get it’s not enough evidence to get him disbarred, but surely it’s enough to extend the investigation.
@@Lajos_KelemenThat's what I've been saying for ages!! Spectres are covert, black ops style commandos. Everything they do is classified, so how the hell does a human colonist on a human colony planet know about a TURIAN Spectre killing another Turian on his planet, right in front of him all whilst commanding an army of Geth? By the Spectre code, that dockworker never should have known Saren was there, especially not his name. The Council were idiots from the start. Stupidity bathed in politics and bureaucracy to shield any onlookers from seeing just how stupid, apathetic, reckless, and careless the council actually is.
"We mistrusted Shepard before and it did not help us." May I just point out how that is THE most satisfying conclusion the Council has made in Shepard's career? It really does pay off to keep being nice to them.
@@Dark_Voice they obviously arent born a councillor. Something tells me you'd have to be a politician at some point and literally all of them admit they know whats at the temlle of athame
You know I thought a lot about killing these morons, their constant denial of the Reapers, and especially in ME3 when "I TOLD YOU SO", but I just can't roll with a human-led or worse an all-human council. We're supposed to be allies, not tyrants. Humanity already established a rather impressive influence in the galaxy, especially being the newest species in Citadel politics, overthrowing the council and establishing complete galactical dominance just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, there are quite a few species who wouldn't like that.
"he no longer has the rights and resources of the spectre" - oh so its just the ressources of the geth, one of the most powerful parties in known space, as well as his vast personal fortune and also the support of a Matriarch, able to field a number of pwerful and highly trained troops and influence over many friends in positions of power. Yeah. What can he do?
It seems like all the Council supplies the Spectres with is legal immunity. It makes me think that they don’t want any control over their agents. But they have proof that the concept can work with what they modeled it after: STG. Fuck, they didn’t even copy the salarian’s homework well. I love mass effect.
Let’s all agree that The Turian Councilor had the biggest shift in character. In 1, he was ready to shit in your food the moment you spoke but in 3 he’s the first to tell you how you can get his support and assistance.
while the asari and salarian had a low performance out becoming stupid, the scene of the asari counselor allowing the aria was stressful, asari counselor that corrupt b1tch
No, let's not all agree. I reject this whitewashing of that cockroach. He acted like all the other councilors - a self-interested smug rat who only became concerned in "assisting you" (blackmailing you into saving his garbage planet first before helping Earth) when Palaven started getting blasted. Same thing the Asari councilor did. Came crawling to you the minute Thessia was in danger. The Salarian would have done the same. I'm sure it's a great relief to all the 5 million turians that get fried per day on Palaven that their councilor had a "change of heart" after 3 years of ignoring warnings. All the councilors should be put in front of a firing squad for gross negligence and incompetence.
I can't agree. He definitely had some anti-human sentiments in the first game and was the most dismissive and non diplomatic of the councilors. His change in ME3 felt more like they tried to sweep these sentiments under the rug rather than properly addressing them.
he has a practical mindset i think. And i think he might've had military experience during Turian-Human war, as his anger and distaste against humans seem personal. By 3rd game he'd have known everything Shepard fought for, everything he warned them about was real, and if anybody was gonna change the tide it'd be him. He knew unlike other council members they cannot stop reapers alone, they have to unite. Again, its head canon, but Turians being a militaristic culture, understanding how war works, and his earlier unreasonable attitude can easily be explained by him serving during the war then becoming the councilor.
12:21 the Turian councillor is so frustrating. He always finds the negatives in what you do with the Queen. He implies Shepard is racist if you kill the queen and then thinks it was a bad idea if you release the queen
@@victoriasharpe1661 he would be the only reason I would kill the council at the end of ME1. Most of the time I save them cos its good to say "I told you so " to them when ME3 comes around and the reapers are real
1:54 we are here to investigate saren's involvement on the geth attack on eden prime saren, were you involved on the attack? nah thank you saren. this can only mean he isn't involved. have a good day
Stranger Akari would have been great if earth was not attacked straight away and the Turians rep called Shepard and asked for help. Shepard replies “ ah yes reapers , we have dismissed that claim” as a renegade interior :)
i hate that scene, because it is full of cliches and stupid moves, including everyone waiting while they fight one on one, and, the best part - when Thane, armed with a ranged weapon instead of keeping distance runs towards kai leng (who is armed with a melee weapon, lol)
South Park's thing on Manbearpig reminded me of the council "There is no evidence that Manbearpig is real," "Look, it's right behind you!" "Ok, so Manbearpig is real. What do you want us to do about it huh? What can we do that will make any difference now?"
Also I love how in mass effect 1 they act like the terminus systems is this unified empire but it’s just a collection of lawless worlds, there wouldn’t have been a war if they sent a fleet, they just chose not to
I know this is a year old comment but fuck it, it would unite the terminus systems with a common cause and the criminals there would help them to keep business there going, it would be nasty for both sides and war is bad for business long term
True tbh. The leadership was so fucked. Blood Pack, blue sins and eclipse were all fighting each other. Hell they reunited temporarily just to take down Garrus who along with his squad managed to do significant damage to their trade routes. The council was just lazy.
I hated when the council finally acknowledges the reapers and then they still don’t want to help you in the slightest beyond restoring your specter status. Like at that point who cares?
Sparatus is the one to step up first - the first to openly support the summit and the only one willing to ally with Earth. As much of an asshole as he is in the first two games, he’s still some of the biggest help you get when the galaxy starts to crumble.
Yeah, the whole "upholding your Spectre Status" was meant to infer how out-of-touch the council is regarding the dire implications beyond the Citadel's nebula. They're still denying anything if note is going on at that point; even Sparatus.
I remember when I first played Mass Effect. I felt really bad when the council died. I thought of maybe restarting to save them. Then Mass Effect 2 came out and they were still jerks. Suddenly I didn’t feel bad anymore.
Albatross same! I was sort of mad at myself for not saving them but one of my friends told me about 2 before I bought it and I wasn't really mad anymore xD
“We’ve mistrusted Shepard before and it did not help us.” The Asari councilor is the only one with any sense of reason in this trilogy. Enough for me to save the council each time.
All the council are a pain in Shep’s a**. The Turian is pretty racist in ME1 criticising your every decision regardless of what you do. For example he will chastise you for saving the Rachni, and will do the same if you kill them. Decent in 3 but too little to late for me to like him. The Salarian I think is the most sensible, I think, as I can’t remember anything derogatory he did. Though the Dalatrass is a moron who can’t see how tough calls need to be made because of the Reaper threat. Sure curing the genophage could eventually cause another Krogan rebellion, but not having the support of them is severely weakening the Galaxy against a threat that quite clearly needs every fu**ing race or asset fighting it. Even then it’s a big IF in regards to defeating this threat. Worry about the Krogan after you’ve survived the biggest threat you and the Galaxy have ever faced. The Asari one is ok, but is completely idiotic in 3. She refuses to help in the war and only helps when her whole planet and race are owned by the Reapers. Not to mention the Asari hid a Prothean artefact, keeping it for themselves (illegal iirc) so that they would have an advantage over all the other races. What did she or the Asari expect, that they could stay out of it and the Reapers would leave them alone. The Turian’s have the strongest military and yet were getting decimated by the Reapers. They can’t defend their planet effectively like the Humans, Turian’s and Krogan, so they should of joined the alliance asap. The Quarians shouldn’t be having a war with Geth in the middle of an immensely bigger war. Luckily for everyone, Anderson, Shep, and a few others clearly understand the gravity of the situation and can put aside differences when faced with something like the Reapers.
After a while I start to feel like the Turians, Asari and Salarians just dropped their three most insufferable people on the council so they wouldn't have to deal with them and now Udina's presence makes much more sense
After all these years, the Reapers being dismissed as a mere fantasy after a living Reaper literally showed up at their doorstep is still one of the stupidest things i've ever heard.
The reapers literally left no trace of themselves after the last harvest. Theres more prothean artifacts lying around than the blown off claw of a reaper. They have no reason to believe. With all of their rechnogical advancements and mapping out the entire galaxy (which is still massive in scope, millions of light years in between planets, let alone stars).
I hate that we are expected to be mad that they don't agree with us in that first meeting. Of course they don't, most of the galaxy is already suspicious of humanity and in their eyes on the first mission of your observation you not only fail, but the guy evaluating you dies then on top of that you come back and blame it on another guy who not only had no known reason to be there but has won against "false" charges claimed by one of the same people claiming these ones.
True but at the same time they ignored blatant racist comments from Saren, Ignored evidence from an actual eyewitness, and then self righteously berate you after every mission throughout the game. Then to top it all off the fucking morons ground you and almost cause a reaper advantage, then after all of that they still demean you throughout the series. Especially that Turian, he has to be one of the most self righteous jackasses I have ever seen in a game.
I will give the Council some leeway in Mass Effect 1 about believing the Reapers. All they had to go on was a dream or vision from Shepard and he was the only one who saw it?
Refusing to believe that Saran was a traitor and refusing to believe that the reapers are real are two reasons why I hate the council. Not only were they proven wrong on both occasions but they also act like a bunch of cowards when there is a battle ahead of them. Damn politics think they know everything.
Dylan Wilken Yes they were proven wrong on both occasions but they only refused to believe that Saren betrayed the council because there was no evidence to indicate his betrayel (innocent until proven guilty.) As for the reaper I would compare it to Britain and Nazi Germany when Churchill warning about Hitler and Nazi Germany fell on deaf ears simply because they were dealing with other issues like the great depression.
@@donttrytokillme1231 I wouldnt say its Hitler and Nazi Germany. I would say Reapers are like if I said that Lucifer summoned army of fallen angels and wants to whipe out all creations of our Lord, humans included. - Everyone would think I am completely crazy. (Apart from Matriarchs that asked about Reapers on Thessia - the VI would tell them the truth however, I doubt they could understand it without Cypher.)
I think that the Asari's councilor (Councilor Tevos) last words are telling something more than they mean . Even if it sems unlikely , she could be the mysterious Benefactor for the Andromeda Initiative . " ... continuity of civilization to consider ... " If you think about it , it actually makes sense . From my little analyse , she's always acting like the " protective mother " just a bit like the Benefactor , and most importantly the Benefactor always has a feminine voice . Councilor Tevos could possibly at the end decide to accelerate the Initiative's departure of the remaining arks , since not all of them departured at the same time . Also , it is highly possible that Councilor Tevos believes Shepard since the beginning , but because she can't allow to break the Council's decisions , she just passively complies and finds the most compromising decisions that satisfies both sides . It's only a theory , or it can just be that the " Benefactor " never existed and is just a poor excuse of the ME:A team because of their laziness ...
@Aatroxthe mysterious Benefactor wasn't the asari councilor it was the shadow broker and the shadow broker was thee illusive man when playing me2 for a bit you'll get info on the illusive man he age everything the mysterious Benefactorthe illusive manall points to me1 before the illusive man was taken over by the reapers the dlc for me2 for liara finding the shadow broker explains it in greater detail that the original broker was looking for a way out and the MEA came into play
Mass effect has so many annoying plot holes also the writers didn't understand scale enough the humans really should have been in space far longer before first contact and of had a far larger population in the hundreds of billions i also wish the reapers could have been beat conventionally instead of using a deus ex machina
You know I think the asari and Salarian councilors were actually pretty reasonable and likable in the first game and all of the councilors, minus Udina, has both positive and negative traits in ME3. I think the council honestly gets too much hate
What kills me is that Shepard never made the rank of Captain. I mean sure, Spectre status, saving the galaxy three times is awesome. But you'd think the Alliance would have the decency to promote him or something.
I think he didnt want to. Just like Hannah Shepard rejected being an admiral because she wanted to be with her men and be on active duty, not being a pencil pusher. Also, he died at the end of ME1 and joined terrorist organisation, at the end of ME2 he murdered 300k Batarians => his actions also prevented it. You cannot promote someone who did a genocide and expect Batarians to be fine with it. (Yes, it was always for good reasons but still. He simply did a lot of questionable choices, caused by beaucratic bs, that he wasnt possible to promote.)
28:14 Oh this game has me pissed off now... Sovereign was right there in the first game, flying right into the Citadel, holding it with his big ol tentacle arms, and then was blown to tiny pieces, many of which went into the council chamber AND YET YOU IDIOTS STILL REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT?! ... fuck it, I'm going renegade when I get the trilogy.
Why didn't the asari counsellor just use that asari mind meld thing that liara does for you. She Could see it all for herself and would have saved many arguments😂
@@realhumanbean21 why not? She is a councillor that they already trust unlike uldina by me3. If she sees what you've seen then she can verify it and they'll have no reason to not help? Why wouldn't they trust her?
@@reldyxd9534 trusting her is not enough to spend billions of credits to stop the mythical treat, there must be more essential proofs that other councelors could see themselves
@@realhumanbean21 true enough. Though she could still start preparing the asari for the reaper threat. If they see her starting to prepare for it then whose to say they won't too?
@@reldyxd9534they did. Or, they were, at least, but it wasn't enough when the reapers showed up. They didn't know the destructive force they'd be facing. Watch the opening cutscene of me3, dipshit.
Sovereign attacking the Citadel, the Council watching it all go down from the Destiny Ascension, is like someone sitting in their burning living room, as the ceiling crashes down all around them, completely denying their house is on fire. They didn't want to admit it. I heard, however, that they did research the ship and found it wasn't Geth or any known tech; but instead of preparing their people for the Reapers, they buried the facts and whistled whilst looking around suspiciously. In order to cover their own asses, they accused Shepard of being insane and delusional. He saved their lives only to be betrayed by them. I wonder if Nihlus knew what a joke the Council is. What a joke the Spectres are.
Shepard: "I don't know how you deal with all politics. It's exhausting." Anderson: "As I recall, you gave me a job." Shepard: "...Yeah. Sorry about that."
When almost 1000 year old Asari Councilor sees that humans made more mess in the Galaxy in 30 years than other races in hundreds of years before humans conquered stars, of course she would feel disdain towards them. Especially when that councilor thought about a retirement before humans came to the Citadel and gave her hundreds tons of new paper work.
Doesn't matter how nice, civil, or reasonable you are with the council; they're static in their blissful idiocy. The Asari counciler, by ME3, is the most pompous and dillisional. Valern is purely useless, and Sparatus doesn't hear the bell toll until his homeworld is veing harvested. Same with Tavos. They're all useless, reckless, and stupidly oblivious, even with the reapers breathing down their necks!
She waited too long to get the Asari involved! By the time she told Shepard about Thessia, the Reapers had almost completely harvested the planet! That is NOT his fault that she was insufferably stubborn and conflicted. That whole situation was on her and her alone. Not only that, but she knew her people were violating one of the Council's most vital laws...not to hide or hoard Prothean technology. She's the worst of all of them imo.
You have a higher initial asset total since humanity's fleets didn't take such a heavy beating during Saren's attack, but you miss out on other Assets later. It all basically evens out, since they didn't want to make either Paragon or Renegade the "better" or "right" choice.
I must be the only one who saves the council. I mean they didn't talked to a reaper or a prothean AI, the council literally do not have any reason to believe that reapers are real. Besides i like the heroic image that gives the paragon choice to humanity.
@@WillieManga The human council was one of the dumbest ideas in the ME series. Let's think about it, most races already think humans are getting too much way too fast. We then get a Spectre, then the Council happens to just die, and that human Spectre is the only one to stop the thing that killed the Council then we install an all human Council. And again a renegade Sheaperd is the one who gets the option for a human Council so they sould have a reputaion of being a bastard. I do not believe that non of the other races would raise an eyebrow at any of this.
Anderson is only the councilor in Mass Effect 2 if you choose so in Mass Effect 1. At the end of Mass Effect 1 you can choose who becomes Councilor. But yes, even if you choose Anderson to be the Councilor between Mass Effect 2 and 3 he steps down because it was too much politics for him.
I know, that the chance is pretty small, but still. Author, can u please to make one more video with ANOTHER version of council and all of their dialogs?./ (and fShepard, if possible... lol) I mean, i know that u are playing for yourself, and is that there was no video since-.. Well. But i downloaded many of your video as mp3 and re-listening them again n again in background because im a huge fun of ME and i love voices in this game (this is why fShep - i love J. Hale n her work in games!) Maybe u'll want to make another paragon/renegate version; or maybe u'll just random choices - as they fit for your new character, idk, it's up to u! Ofc, i prefer to get as many lines as possible (aka full), but again, i understand that this will take YOUR time - for playing, for motage and so on... So... if someday u'll want to re-play the whole Mass Effect, and if u'll want to kill the original council - maybe u'll think about to record a some video too?.. Even if u there will be a mShep - i'll take that, because there near zero chance that ANY1 ELSE will record such content in future... Anyway. Thanks for your videos. PS oh: no Legendary edition, pls >_>
if u were to ask me who is my least fave member of the council prior to ME3 I would've chosen the obvious and said Sparatus however come ME3 he's the first non-human councilor who acknowledges the Reapers threat and offers aid to humanity before Valern or Tevos did if u were to ask me who is my least fave council member come ME3 it would b Tevos as she CONSTANTLY finds way to drag her feet and care about herself more than anyone else "we're not coming to the summit between the krogan, salarians and turians because we believe there is too much bad blood there" translation="I cant be bothered" and then you find out the asari and specifically the asari councilor is guilty of major hypocrisy as ever since ME1 its been confirmed that a race keeping a prothean beacon without sharing is illegal and find out the asari have been breaking this rule that they came up with by refusing to share the beacon on Thessia with anyone else or acknowledge its existence. Tevos only helps Shepard when the Reapers come knocking on her peoples doorstep the perfect ending would b Shepard survives and informs Valern and Sparatus of Tevos's hypocrisy and she's kicked off the council and the asari r not given a spot on the council for a very long time
Alternative Title: Paragon Shepard Being Gaslit For 56 Minutes and 6 Seconds Straight. But seriously, as frustrating as it is to watch, there's something deeply hilarious about the council treating Shepard like a tinfoil-hat wearing conspiracy theorist.
There is only three councils representing their races: the turian, the asari, and the salarian. Though they added a human council member in ME3. Why can't they have a krogan and a quarian added to the council?
Because the Krogan rebelled against the Council...violently. And the Quarians violated Council Law by creating sentient AI via the Geth. Council races must prove they can DEFEND the galaxy. The Krogan and Quarians have only preyed on it.
You can find them via random loot(be sure your character is at least 55). Or you can get the armor as a reward if you complete bring down the sky(again be sure you character is at least 50, better level 55+ for the best version).
Its not just the Council. Its Destiny ascension with 10k crew. Moreover, the Council are not just 3 people, they are a symbol and just like The Illusive Man brought Shepard despite not agreeing with him, I think saving the Council is the right thing to do.
In all honesty when the conflict is over those three councilors should be considered war criminals and tried as collaborators with the reapers. Despite repeated proof they refused to listen to the truth and ultimately the deaths of billions lie squarely on their shoulders.
If the Crucible had the effect of disabling Reapers shields and messing up with their systems ans battle coesion, giving a fight chance to the armada to fight them. And based on your war assets, define what would be the outcome: Bad: still get slaughtered. Neutral: Win with such a cost that galatic community will take decades to rebuils. Good: Costs were great but the damage is manageable and there was time enough to save Shepard. And delete that shit ending.
This is why Shepard should have been wearing a dashcam on his armor. Majority of the reason the Council didn't believe him was that nothing he did or heard was ever recorded
Exactly the council wants some evidence to back up our claims and 95% of the time we have none or conventantly the evidence stops existing, like the VI on Illos. People like to forget that when we actually bring them Tali's evidence they DO believe us. Hell ME1 taught them not to just blindly believe everything one of thier Spectres say.
True
But recordings can be deep faked, in fact, in mass effect 3 there were a few times where the possibility of a recording being a deep fake was mentioned.
The Council believed him, they knew Reapers were real after ME1, but they didn't have a plan on how to stop them even in ME3. So, they just decided to keep this information in secret because Galaxy needed a stability and besides, Shepard didn't specify when Reapers are gonna attack. The council thought they had decades or centuries to prepare, because Sovereign failed at activating Citadel Mass Relay and bringing his friends in, but later writers forgot about this and Reapers needed like 3 years to come back.
Honestly, Bioware themself didn't know what to do with the Reapers. In ME1 they needed Citadel to come into Milky Way, then in ME2 they could just use the Alpha Relay, but in ME3 they just roll in without use of Mass Relay.
Saren: kills Shepard in front of the council
The council: we have found no evidence of saren being guilty of treason
- Oh Commander, there are evil machines attacking our homeworlds, could you please help us?
- I actually came here to ask for your help on Earth. Hadn't I warned you since 2183?
- Ah yes, 'Reapers'. BTW, we aren't going to help you. So, will you help us?
It was always dumbfounding how Cole’s testimony (the dockworker at Eden Prime) was dismissed by the Council.
Traumatized or not, the fact he saw two turians, one calling the other Saren who shot the other in the back, is a bit too much info to be considered as rambling? Hell, he could’ve prob ID Saren if given the chance, no way he couldn’t recognize him with all those tubes sticking out of him.
@@Lajos_Kelemen I always found it odd, that the Council didn't find a cyborg looking Turian a wee bit suspicious. Like he looked like a normal Turian with his big glowing blue eyes 😄
@@Lajos_KelemenI think you mean Powell. Cole was the guy in that building with two others.
Shouldn’t the fact that this dockworker (Powell) said Saren’s name be compelling evidence? Let’s forget him stating the backstabbing etc, the fact he mentioned a name (Saren) he shouldn’t know, should be pretty damning. I get it’s not enough evidence to get him disbarred, but surely it’s enough to extend the investigation.
@@Lajos_KelemenThat's what I've been saying for ages!! Spectres are covert, black ops style commandos. Everything they do is classified, so how the hell does a human colonist on a human colony planet know about a TURIAN Spectre killing another Turian on his planet, right in front of him all whilst commanding an army of Geth? By the Spectre code, that dockworker never should have known Saren was there, especially not his name. The Council were idiots from the start. Stupidity bathed in politics and bureaucracy to shield any onlookers from seeing just how stupid, apathetic, reckless, and careless the council actually is.
I like how we have to jump through hoops and over hurdles just to get shat on by the Council while Aria has Councilor Tevos on goddamn speed-dial.
What's Aria's one rule?
@@KAlexanderTheGreat Don't fuck with Aria
@@hippopotamushelmet Of course you can!
@@Vogalos Tell that to Mordin
Fredrik Noresund Or Wrex 🤷🏼♂️
"We mistrusted Shepard before and it did not help us."
May I just point out how that is THE most satisfying conclusion the Council has made in Shepard's career? It really does pay off to keep being nice to them.
Yes, but it's unfortunate that they only say that when on the verge of death
48:47 Full Cerberus armor, gun pointed at council, and sabotages elevator
"I can explain this, Kaidan"
Gonna need a hell of a lot of explaining there
Never understood why you couldn't repaint your armor
@@HiopX You can, just not special armor sets like Terminus, Cerberus, Collector, and so on. Armor you put together piece by piece is repaintable.
Ashley would be better
Padzi did a funny comic about that situation on deviantart awhile back.
Should of been extra dialogue if you were wearing the Cerberus armor.
28:23 Basically this:Asari councillor:"We don't think you're a liar,Commander." Shepard:"Well,good." Asari councillor:"We just think you're batshit insane." Shepard:".................."
Says the leadership of a race with a functioning prothean ai who knew all of this will happen
@@Siegberg91 damn I forgot about that they literally knew this was coming and did nothing but give into lust and greed
@@Siegberg91 Forgot about that. Asari are really dumb for being so full of potential
I would wanna know if Tevos knew about the beacon or if she was just informed when she told Shepard. (Therefore being just as in the dark as Shepard.)
@@Dark_Voice they obviously arent born a councillor. Something tells me you'd have to be a politician at some point and literally all of them admit they know whats at the temlle of athame
Mass Effect 2 Council: The Reapers aren't real, it's a conspiracy theory.
Mass Effect 3 Council: Why didn't anyone warn us about the Reapers?!?!
Shepherd: I KEPT WARNING YOU!!!!
Mass Effect 3 Council: We didn't listen! W-We didn't listen!
The council won't believe the Reapers are real even if Harbinger and his buddies are flying right in front of the Citadel
They'll just be flying right out their window and they'll say: "What did those guys pour into my drink?"
You know I thought a lot about killing these morons, their constant denial of the Reapers, and especially in ME3 when "I TOLD YOU SO", but I just can't roll with a human-led or worse an all-human council. We're supposed to be allies, not tyrants. Humanity already established a rather impressive influence in the galaxy, especially being the newest species in Citadel politics, overthrowing the council and establishing complete galactical dominance just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, there are quite a few species who wouldn't like that.
council wouldnt understand reapers if harbinger and sovereign did the waltz in front of the council tower
Obviously, they are just Geth Dreadnaughts that just wanna visit the Citadel in peace.
"he no longer has the rights and resources of the spectre" - oh so its just the ressources of the geth, one of the most powerful parties in known space, as well as his vast personal fortune and also the support of a Matriarch, able to field a number of pwerful and highly trained troops and influence over many friends in positions of power. Yeah. What can he do?
Spectre resources seem Still be underfounded you dont recive any kind of money or resources for free from them so everything saren had was its own
Shepard 1 | Intergalactic Stooges 0
@@justjoking5252 More like Shepherd 850 Intergalactic Stooges -567.
Not to mention a GODDAM REAPER!!!
It seems like all the Council supplies the Spectres with is legal immunity. It makes me think that they don’t want any control over their agents. But they have proof that the concept can work with what they modeled it after: STG. Fuck, they didn’t even copy the salarian’s homework well.
I love mass effect.
Let’s all agree that The Turian Councilor had the biggest shift in character. In 1, he was ready to shit in your food the moment you spoke but in 3 he’s the first to tell you how you can get his support and assistance.
while the asari and salarian had a low performance out becoming stupid, the scene of the asari counselor allowing the aria was stressful, asari counselor that corrupt b1tch
No, let's not all agree. I reject this whitewashing of that cockroach. He acted like all the other councilors - a self-interested smug rat who only became concerned in "assisting you" (blackmailing you into saving his garbage planet first before helping Earth) when Palaven started getting blasted. Same thing the Asari councilor did. Came crawling to you the minute Thessia was in danger. The Salarian would have done the same.
I'm sure it's a great relief to all the 5 million turians that get fried per day on Palaven that their councilor had a "change of heart" after 3 years of ignoring warnings. All the councilors should be put in front of a firing squad for gross negligence and incompetence.
I can't agree. He definitely had some anti-human sentiments in the first game and was the most dismissive and non diplomatic of the councilors. His change in ME3 felt more like they tried to sweep these sentiments under the rug rather than properly addressing them.
he has a practical mindset i think. And i think he might've had military experience during Turian-Human war, as his anger and distaste against humans seem personal. By 3rd game he'd have known everything Shepard fought for, everything he warned them about was real, and if anybody was gonna change the tide it'd be him. He knew unlike other council members they cannot stop reapers alone, they have to unite. Again, its head canon, but Turians being a militaristic culture, understanding how war works, and his earlier unreasonable attitude can easily be explained by him serving during the war then becoming the councilor.
Turians are a military race so I’m sure even he understood that everyone needs to band together to defeat the Reapers
12:21 the Turian councillor is so frustrating. He always finds the negatives in what you do with the Queen. He implies Shepard is racist if you kill the queen and then thinks it was a bad idea if you release the queen
The Council is fearful of what you've done if you release the Rachni queen, and scornful if you kill her.
You can't win.
Sadly that is actually realistic.
There are too many people in Real Life that really are like that.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
He's not just frustrating in the rachni mission. He's a downright dick the whole way through
@@victoriasharpe1661 he would be the only reason I would kill the council at the end of ME1. Most of the time I save them cos its good to say "I told you so " to them when ME3 comes around and the reapers are real
1:54 we are here to investigate saren's involvement on the geth attack on eden prime
saren, were you involved on the attack?
nah
thank you saren. this can only mean he isn't involved. have a good day
its not even a "Nah" either but a slight n a
Saren: I have done nothing wrong, in my life, ever.
Council: We know this, and we love you.
They only believed that the Reapers were real when their own homeworld fell...
>Palaven is burning
>Ah yes, "Reapers"
Indeed XD
Stranger Akari would have been great if earth was not attacked straight away and the Turians rep called Shepard and asked for help. Shepard replies “ ah yes reapers , we have dismissed that claim” as a renegade interior :)
Love the thane scene, a dying drell takes on a cyber enhanced ninja and pretty much holds his own.
Thane is such a baller, yo.
If only he was healthy. He might have able to kill that ninja. Easily my least favorite character in 3
Hex Dio thane would have destroyed that pathetic assassin
@@JA9339 Bionic bitchslap!
i hate that scene, because it is full of cliches and stupid moves, including everyone waiting while they fight one on one, and, the best part - when Thane, armed with a ranged weapon instead of keeping distance runs towards kai leng (who is armed with a melee weapon, lol)
@@andrewp.8278 everyone is entitled to their opinions.
South Park's thing on Manbearpig reminded me of the council
"There is no evidence that Manbearpig is real,"
"Look, it's right behind you!"
"Ok, so Manbearpig is real. What do you want us to do about it huh? What can we do that will make any difference now?"
just like manbearpig's inspiration, real politicians refusing to do anything about climate change
@@harmonicpsyche8313 exactly. Doing nothing about a potential apocalyptic event until it’s too late.
@@harmonicpsyche8313Don't worry. The climate scientists in their private jets will tell you to stop growing food and owning cars.
"I'm sick of this council and it's anti-human bull-" hahaha, best line of Udina.
The moment you start to like Udina before his true colors slowly reveal themselves after Spectre Ceremony, Therum, Feros, Noveria and finally Virmire.
Also I love how in mass effect 1 they act like the terminus systems is this unified empire but it’s just a collection of lawless worlds, there wouldn’t have been a war if they sent a fleet, they just chose not to
I know this is a year old comment but fuck it, it would unite the terminus systems with a common cause and the criminals there would help them to keep business there going, it would be nasty for both sides and war is bad for business long term
True tbh. The leadership was so fucked. Blood Pack, blue sins and eclipse were all fighting each other. Hell they reunited temporarily just to take down Garrus who along with his squad managed to do significant damage to their trade routes. The council was just lazy.
I hated when the council finally acknowledges the reapers and then they still don’t want to help you in the slightest beyond restoring your specter status. Like at that point who cares?
Sparatus is the one to step up first - the first to openly support the summit and the only one willing to ally with Earth. As much of an asshole as he is in the first two games, he’s still some of the biggest help you get when the galaxy starts to crumble.
Not to mention that the writers don't make your Spectre status mean $hit, really.
Yeah, the whole "upholding your Spectre Status" was meant to infer how out-of-touch the council is regarding the dire implications beyond the Citadel's nebula. They're still denying anything if note is going on at that point; even Sparatus.
I remember when I first played Mass Effect. I felt really bad when the council died. I thought of maybe restarting to save them. Then Mass Effect 2 came out and they were still jerks. Suddenly I didn’t feel bad anymore.
Albatross same! I was sort of mad at myself for not saving them but one of my friends told me about 2 before I bought it and I wasn't really mad anymore xD
And then in 3 its better to keep them alive even though they're total asshat politicians
@CommandoDude Tevos says something like "We were wrong to mistrust Shepard before" in 3, so there is that.
@@ryanc5572
They also sanction the partnership with Cerberus as a Spec-Op, in gratitude for their lives.
“We’ve mistrusted Shepard before and it did not help us.”
The Asari councilor is the only one with any sense of reason in this trilogy. Enough for me to save the council each time.
Wow. Only one councilor seems to get it….. and it took her three whole games!
@@B-rex395
Better late than never. 🤷🏻
All the council are a pain in Shep’s a**. The Turian is pretty racist in ME1 criticising your every decision regardless of what you do. For example he will chastise you for saving the Rachni, and will do the same if you kill them. Decent in 3 but too little to late for me to like him.
The Salarian I think is the most sensible, I think, as I can’t remember anything derogatory he did. Though the Dalatrass is a moron who can’t see how tough calls need to be made because of the Reaper threat. Sure curing the genophage could eventually cause another Krogan rebellion, but not having the support of them is severely weakening the Galaxy against a threat that quite clearly needs every fu**ing race or asset fighting it. Even then it’s a big IF in regards to defeating this threat. Worry about the Krogan after you’ve survived the biggest threat you and the Galaxy have ever faced.
The Asari one is ok, but is completely idiotic in 3. She refuses to help in the war and only helps when her whole planet and race are owned by the Reapers. Not to mention the Asari hid a Prothean artefact, keeping it for themselves (illegal iirc) so that they would have an advantage over all the other races. What did she or the Asari expect, that they could stay out of it and the Reapers would leave them alone. The Turian’s have the strongest military and yet were getting decimated by the Reapers. They can’t defend their planet effectively like the Humans, Turian’s and Krogan, so they should of joined the alliance asap.
The Quarians shouldn’t be having a war with Geth in the middle of an immensely bigger war. Luckily for everyone, Anderson, Shep, and a few others clearly understand the gravity of the situation and can put aside differences when faced with something like the Reapers.
nah, in the 3rd game she was a corrupt b1tch, the turian counselor was wrong and stupid in the 1st but in the 3rd he redeemed himself with us
She didn't join in the diplomatic meeting because krogans would be there.
After a while I start to feel like the Turians, Asari and Salarians just dropped their three most insufferable people on the council so they wouldn't have to deal with them and now Udina's presence makes much more sense
this actually makes a lot of sense lol
Councilor Tevos is hot af
Points off for attitude.
Doesn't Joker say this at some point? When talking with EDI? I can't find a video online, but I swear I heard him say it.
Overstatement.
Irissa is better
she's just another asari. They all look pretty much the same.
After all these years, the Reapers being dismissed as a mere fantasy after a living Reaper literally showed up at their doorstep is still one of the stupidest things i've ever heard.
The reapers literally left no trace of themselves after the last harvest. Theres more prothean artifacts lying around than the blown off claw of a reaper. They have no reason to believe. With all of their rechnogical advancements and mapping out the entire galaxy (which is still massive in scope, millions of light years in between planets, let alone stars).
I just noticed the Turian Councilor's voice is the same as Nihlus's.
Both were voiced by Alistair Dunkan.
& Turian wing Artimec in Mass Effect 3.
7:07 - The one time Udina said something that I agreed with.
Renegade version coming soon
Jaguar550 The council deserve it.
That'll be a short video ;)
I hate that we are expected to be mad that they don't agree with us in that first meeting. Of course they don't, most of the galaxy is already suspicious of humanity and in their eyes on the first mission of your observation you not only fail, but the guy evaluating you dies then on top of that you come back and blame it on another guy who not only had no known reason to be there but has won against "false" charges claimed by one of the same people claiming these ones.
True but at the same time they ignored blatant racist comments from Saren, Ignored evidence from an actual eyewitness, and then self righteously berate you after every mission throughout the game. Then to top it all off the fucking morons ground you and almost cause a reaper advantage, then after all of that they still demean you throughout the series. Especially that Turian, he has to be one of the most self righteous jackasses I have ever seen in a game.
I will give the Council some leeway in Mass Effect 1 about believing the Reapers. All they had to go on was a dream or vision from Shepard and he was the only one who saw it?
That’s fair, but they have no excuse in mass effect 2.
@@B-rex395 Bringing Legion along for said "conversation" really just drives home the point that the Council is next level dense.
Refusing to believe that Saran was a traitor and refusing to believe that the reapers are real are two reasons why I hate the council. Not only were they proven wrong on both occasions but they also act like a bunch of cowards when there is a battle ahead of them. Damn politics think they know everything.
Dylan Wilken
Yes they were proven wrong on both occasions but they only refused to believe that Saren betrayed the council because there was no evidence to indicate his betrayel (innocent until proven guilty.) As for the reaper I would compare it to Britain and Nazi Germany when Churchill warning about Hitler and Nazi Germany fell on deaf ears simply because they were dealing with other issues like the great depression.
@@donttrytokillme1231 I wouldnt say its Hitler and Nazi Germany. I would say Reapers are like if I said that Lucifer summoned army of fallen angels and wants to whipe out all creations of our Lord, humans included. - Everyone would think I am completely crazy. (Apart from Matriarchs that asked about Reapers on Thessia - the VI would tell them the truth however, I doubt they could understand it without Cypher.)
49:20 they finally agreed they were stupid all this time before
Udina: *Screeches autistically to the council faces*
Shepard: Bro, Saren's a real problem.
Udina: sEtTLe DOwN, cOMmaNdEr.
Me when killing udina in mass effect 3: *JUSTICE*
I think that the Asari's councilor (Councilor Tevos) last words are telling something more than they mean . Even if it sems unlikely , she could be the mysterious Benefactor for the Andromeda Initiative .
" ... continuity of civilization to consider ... " If you think about it , it actually makes sense . From my little analyse , she's always acting like the " protective mother " just a bit like the Benefactor , and most importantly the Benefactor always has a feminine voice . Councilor Tevos could possibly at the end decide to accelerate the Initiative's departure of the remaining arks , since not all of them departured at the same time . Also , it is highly possible that Councilor Tevos believes Shepard since the beginning , but because she can't allow to break the Council's decisions , she just passively complies and finds the most compromising decisions that satisfies both sides .
It's only a theory , or it can just be that the " Benefactor " never existed and is just a poor excuse of the ME:A team because of their laziness ...
The arks left before Mass Effect 2 though. The timing doesn't quite work.
Ridgwaycer nothing in MEA quite works , MEA is pure bullshit so ...
@Aatroxthe mysterious Benefactor wasn't the asari councilor it was the shadow broker and the shadow broker was thee illusive man when playing me2 for a bit you'll get info on the illusive man he age everything the mysterious Benefactorthe illusive manall points to me1 before the illusive man was taken over by the reapers the dlc for me2 for liara finding the shadow broker explains it in greater detail that the original broker was looking for a way out and the MEA came into play
Actually Andromrda was linked to before mass effect 3 so no.
Mass effect has so many annoying plot holes also the writers didn't understand scale enough the humans really should have been in space far longer before first contact and of had a far larger population in the hundreds of billions i also wish the reapers could have been beat conventionally instead of using a deus ex machina
citadel council: wrong about everything, every time, always
I'm a goody 2shoes when it comes to games but I must admit that the renegade route is much more comedic :)
29:12 yeah can a black man be black
Anderson tellin' it like it is.
You know I think the asari and Salarian councilors were actually pretty reasonable and likable in the first game and all of the councilors, minus Udina, has both positive and negative traits in ME3. I think the council honestly gets too much hate
Exactly
Definitely the most accurate depiction of politicians in any video game I've ever seen.
So much could have been prevented with A FUCKING GO PRO!
What kills me is that Shepard never made the rank of Captain. I mean sure, Spectre status, saving the galaxy three times is awesome. But you'd think the Alliance would have the decency to promote him or something.
Alpha Centurion then why is it that capt. Anderson can order commander Shepard in ME 1?
Anderson is pretty much Shepard's father figure, he outranks Shepard on that alone.
It's the fact that I believe that once someone one becomes a spectre they are honorably discharged from there respective military's
Commander Shepard sounds cooler
I think he didnt want to. Just like Hannah Shepard rejected being an admiral because she wanted to be with her men and be on active duty, not being a pencil pusher. Also, he died at the end of ME1 and joined terrorist organisation, at the end of ME2 he murdered 300k Batarians => his actions also prevented it. You cannot promote someone who did a genocide and expect Batarians to be fine with it. (Yes, it was always for good reasons but still. He simply did a lot of questionable choices, caused by beaucratic bs, that he wasnt possible to promote.)
28:14
Oh this game has me pissed off now...
Sovereign was right there in the first game, flying right into the Citadel, holding it with his big ol tentacle arms, and then was blown to tiny pieces, many of which went into the council chamber
AND YET YOU IDIOTS STILL REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT?!
... fuck it, I'm going renegade when I get the trilogy.
Councilor Sparatus is the stubborn skeptic of the bunch. And that's why I like him.
His replacement, Quentius, is much nicer, though.
You're doing God's work
Why didn't the asari counsellor just use that asari mind meld thing that liara does for you. She Could see it all for herself and would have saved many arguments😂
@@realhumanbean21 why not? She is a councillor that they already trust unlike uldina by me3. If she sees what you've seen then she can verify it and they'll have no reason to not help? Why wouldn't they trust her?
@@reldyxd9534 trusting her is not enough to spend billions of credits to stop the mythical treat, there must be more essential proofs that other councelors could see themselves
@@realhumanbean21 true enough. Though she could still start preparing the asari for the reaper threat. If they see her starting to prepare for it then whose to say they won't too?
@@reldyxd9534they did. Or, they were, at least, but it wasn't enough when the reapers showed up. They didn't know the destructive force they'd be facing. Watch the opening cutscene of me3, dipshit.
Sovereign attacking the Citadel, the Council watching it all go down from the Destiny Ascension, is like someone sitting in their burning living room, as the ceiling crashes down all around them, completely denying their house is on fire. They didn't want to admit it. I heard, however, that they did research the ship and found it wasn't Geth or any known tech; but instead of preparing their people for the Reapers, they buried the facts and whistled whilst looking around suspiciously. In order to cover their own asses, they accused Shepard of being insane and delusional. He saved their lives only to be betrayed by them. I wonder if Nihlus knew what a joke the Council is. What a joke the Spectres are.
Love ya videos boi
Thank you my friend:)
Earth's economy is reduced to I ow you
Finally i can see how council talk looks like when you don't hang up the call
Shepard: "I don't know how you deal with all politics. It's exhausting."
Anderson: "As I recall, you gave me a job."
Shepard: "...Yeah. Sorry about that."
God, I hated the council. In all 3 games, all they ever do is second guess and criticise all you do, when they aren't actively working against you.
When almost 1000 year old Asari Councilor sees that humans made more mess in the Galaxy in 30 years than other races in hundreds of years before humans conquered stars, of course she would feel disdain towards them.
Especially when that councilor thought about a retirement before humans came to the Citadel and gave her hundreds tons of new paper work.
AH, YES. RIPAHZ.
Maan... The Asari Coincilor....
Hot right?
Idky but I felt kinda sad when I heard Vigil was nonfunctional, I was kinda hoping to run into it again
Vigil was more helpful than pretty much everyone else combined in ME 1.
I was just thinking of these guys too
The council letting shep become a spectre is the first and last W of the council
Doesn't matter how nice, civil, or reasonable you are with the council; they're static in their blissful idiocy. The Asari counciler, by ME3, is the most pompous and dillisional. Valern is purely useless, and Sparatus doesn't hear the bell toll until his homeworld is veing harvested. Same with Tavos. They're all useless, reckless, and stupidly oblivious, even with the reapers breathing down their necks!
I noticed you missed the feros report
I wonder how the legendary edition is gonna handle loot idk if I want the same as 1 or the same as 2 and 3
The way Shepard gets cut off before he can apologize...
She laid her hopes in him and he let her down _hard_
She waited too long to get the Asari involved! By the time she told Shepard about Thessia, the Reapers had almost completely harvested the planet! That is NOT his fault that she was insufferably stubborn and conflicted. That whole situation was on her and her alone. Not only that, but she knew her people were violating one of the Council's most vital laws...not to hide or hoard Prothean technology. She's the worst of all of them imo.
@@themoonlitquill Sparatus is the reason most players (including me in my rookie years) don't even let them see Mass Effect 2!
i have yet to see any reason to have saved them in the first place
I believe if you leave them to die. I think you get Asset Awards from ME3.
You have a higher initial asset total since humanity's fleets didn't take such a heavy beating during Saren's attack, but you miss out on other Assets later. It all basically evens out, since they didn't want to make either Paragon or Renegade the "better" or "right" choice.
I must be the only one who saves the council. I mean they didn't talked to a reaper or a prothean AI, the council literally do not have any reason to believe that reapers are real. Besides i like the heroic image that gives the paragon choice to humanity.
I saved them on my first playthrough. Despite their attitudes, I didn't hate them for not believing me.
Nah. As slow as the Council was to accept things, they were more memorable than the Human council.
@@WillieManga The human council was one of the dumbest ideas in the ME series. Let's think about it, most races already think humans are getting too much way too fast. We then get a Spectre, then the Council happens to just die, and that human Spectre is the only one to stop the thing that killed the Council then we install an all human Council. And again a renegade Sheaperd is the one who gets the option for a human Council so they sould have a reputaion of being a bastard. I do not believe that non of the other races would raise an eyebrow at any of this.
I like hanging up on them
In Mass effect 4 I want Shapard to say: Asari are pink and 5 meter tall volos like creature and I dare the council to refute me once again!
5:29 I supposed it must be a limitations of the game graphics but, the Cerberus soldiers ran off when they figured out that only 2 guys were coming? 😕
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What's galactic confrontation?
Why is Udina the councilor in mass effect 3, when in mass effect 2, Anderson's the councilor? Did Anderson step down or something?
Anderson is only the councilor in Mass Effect 2 if you choose so in Mass Effect 1. At the end of Mass Effect 1 you can choose who becomes Councilor.
But yes, even if you choose Anderson to be the Councilor between Mass Effect 2 and 3 he steps down because it was too much politics for him.
I know, that the chance is pretty small, but still.
Author, can u please to make one more video with ANOTHER version of council and all of their dialogs?./ (and fShepard, if possible... lol)
I mean, i know that u are playing for yourself, and is that there was no video since-.. Well. But i downloaded many of your video as mp3 and re-listening them again n again in background because im a huge fun of ME and i love voices in this game (this is why fShep - i love J. Hale n her work in games!)
Maybe u'll want to make another paragon/renegate version; or maybe u'll just random choices - as they fit for your new character, idk, it's up to u! Ofc, i prefer to get as many lines as possible (aka full), but again, i understand that this will take YOUR time - for playing, for motage and so on...
So... if someday u'll want to re-play the whole Mass Effect, and if u'll want to kill the original council - maybe u'll think about to record a some video too?.. Even if u there will be a mShep - i'll take that, because there near zero chance that ANY1 ELSE will record such content in future...
Anyway. Thanks for your videos.
PS oh: no Legendary edition, pls >_>
just play the damn game
@@rogerroger2377 Already did it over half of hundred times...
...aaaand this is a good time to do it again! \o/
PS: sorry, man for ruining your "fun"
@@PEECTPA I didn't understand why it was my fun lol, I highly recommend recording a podcast of your journey lol
if u were to ask me who is my least fave member of the council prior to ME3 I would've chosen the obvious and said Sparatus however come ME3 he's the first non-human councilor who acknowledges the Reapers threat and offers aid to humanity before Valern or Tevos did
if u were to ask me who is my least fave council member come ME3 it would b Tevos as she CONSTANTLY finds way to drag her feet and care about herself more than anyone else "we're not coming to the summit between the krogan, salarians and turians because we believe there is too much bad blood there" translation="I cant be bothered" and then you find out the asari and specifically the asari councilor is guilty of major hypocrisy as ever since ME1 its been confirmed that a race keeping a prothean beacon without sharing is illegal and find out the asari have been breaking this rule that they came up with by refusing to share the beacon on Thessia with anyone else or acknowledge its existence. Tevos only helps Shepard when the Reapers come knocking on her peoples doorstep
the perfect ending would b Shepard survives and informs Valern and Sparatus of Tevos's hypocrisy and she's kicked off the council and the asari r not given a spot on the council for a very long time
There's no way Tevos knew about that! She was only told by her government. At worst, she only inherited the secret.
Alternative Title: Paragon Shepard Being Gaslit For 56 Minutes and 6 Seconds Straight. But seriously, as frustrating as it is to watch, there's something deeply hilarious about the council treating Shepard like a tinfoil-hat wearing conspiracy theorist.
At least the Turian Councilor actually helped in Mass Effect 3. The other two either did nothing or even tried to sabotage your efforts. Bastards…
There is only three councils representing their races: the turian, the asari, and the salarian. Though they added a human council member in ME3. Why can't they have a krogan and a quarian added to the council?
Because the Krogan rebelled against the Council...violently. And the Quarians violated Council Law by creating sentient AI via the Geth. Council races must prove they can DEFEND the galaxy. The Krogan and Quarians have only preyed on it.
I think we should have been given another opportunity to kill the council in ME3. I wanted them dead for betraying us after we saved them in 1 lmao
What armor are they wearing right at the start?
They wearing Colossus armor.
@@jaguar550 how do you obtain that?
You can find them via random loot(be sure your character is at least 55). Or you can get the armor as a reward if you complete bring down the sky(again be sure you character is at least 50, better level 55+ for the best version).
I had NO regrets letting the council die. NONE!!!!!
If you chose the Destroy Ending and since the Citadel DLC gets destroyed if I remember then I believe the council dies no matter what!
Yay
I never saved council 3 guys at the expanse of whole fleet? even as Paragon I have to say no
Its not just the Council. Its Destiny ascension with 10k crew. Moreover, the Council are not just 3 people, they are a symbol and just like The Illusive Man brought Shepard despite not agreeing with him, I think saving the Council is the right thing to do.
And this just makes question myself even more about why I let the Council die.
I know it was risky to sacrifice reinforcements, but it's also risky to sacrifice the society's order, especially when you're about to go to war.
I just save them for the destiny ascension ngl
This video reminds me of how much I HATE the council.
gawd dayum this looks so old now
As immensely annoying as the Citadel Council are, I prefer them over the Galactic Senate from Star Wars.
The imperial field commanders who belittle you in Battlefront II are more annoying imo.
In all honesty when the conflict is over those three councilors should be considered war criminals and tried as collaborators with the reapers. Despite repeated proof they refused to listen to the truth and ultimately the deaths of billions lie squarely on their shoulders.
If the Crucible had the effect of disabling Reapers shields and messing up with their systems ans battle coesion, giving a fight chance to the armada to fight them. And based on your war assets, define what would be the outcome:
Bad: still get slaughtered.
Neutral: Win with such a cost that galatic community will take decades to rebuils.
Good: Costs were great but the damage is manageable and there was time enough to save Shepard.
And delete that shit ending.
Don’t like the asari from mass effect andromeda they feel small and annoying but the mass effect trilogy I prefer from that game.