PaRappa the Rapper's Forgotten Successors
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2022
- PaRappa the Rapper has been a beloved character for over twenty years, but also hasn't seen an actual proper sequel in over twenty years. He still gets new merchandise to this day, so why has there never been a new PaRappa the Rapper, a PaRappa the Rapper 3, an Um Jammer Lammy 2, or...anything? I decided to look at some spiritual successors to PaRappa the Rapper to find out why.
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I think I had some frazzled memory recounting the epic tale of Sony's Naughty Dog's The Last of Us' Part Dos. I think I ordered MMMM in May but was telling a friend about it a month later while playing TLOUPII (otherwise known as Tee-Loopee 2), when the game was actually out. So therefore, the idea to make a video on this was thanks to Abby Lastofus, but actually ordering the game wasn't. I'm sorry to have lied to you.
I understood only half of what you said 💀
You don't have to be sorry because 95% of my brain tried to do 3 x 4
I had the immense pleasure of getting to meet Rodney Alan Greenblat at a small indie comics and art festival back in 2016. He's a really nice guy and he was happy to sign my copies of PaRappa and UmJammerLammy. Excellent work as always, MykonosFan!
Nice
I was one of the Project Rap Rabbit backers. I was pretty disappointed when it didn't reach its goal but I wasn't that surprised either
Thank you for doing your civic duty.
To me Parappa the Rapper 2 is just plain so good. I would unironically put it up there as one of the most enjoyable rhythm games I've ever played purely based on the fact that the games always reward you for not just playing Simon says with what you're presented. You CAN beat a Parappa game just copying the others but the fun comes from having fun, and having more freedoms.
Project Rap Rabbit feels like it might have taken that angle as well which saddens me that it never saw the light of day proper.
I would argue that Um Jammer Lammy is better than Parappa the Rapper 2, and Parappa the Rapper 2 is a step down from the things that UJL achieved on inferior hardware.
Don't get me wrong, Parappa 2 is way better than Parappa 1 in its gameplay, but UJL is way above both of them. Of course, the story in UJL is more "zany" compared to Parappa 1 and Parappa 2 because the stages don't feel connected to each other, but I still think that UJL is better.
Also I'm not sure why Parappa 2 didn't pull a UJL and decided to add Lammy as a playable character, Parappa 2 was released on the PS2 so it is not like they couldn't do it with all the available space that they had in the disk.
Yes, Parappa 2 has the "alternative difficulties" that you can get after beating all stages, but I still think that using Lammy would've been better. Heck, they even made a "We are MilkCan!" reference in the Hair Fright stage!
@@MrPowerGamerBR I think where Lammy does a lot in the story department, Prappa 2 does way more on the gameplay front that I think outshines Lammy. Aside from being better at registering button inputs, the game does a lot to let the player see what's coming up next with how long a line is. Jammy does this a bit as well but I think Parapp 2 personally does it better.
Regardless, I want a Lammy 2
@@MrPowerGamerBR you said a lot in your comment without actually saying anything. Why do you think Lammy is better?
@@user-vi4xy1jw7e
- You can play as Parappa after beating the game
- I prefer the notes timeline (idk the name of it) from Lammy compared to Parappa 1, Parappa 2 is better since you can lookahead the notes too, but I still prefer Lammy in that regard
To be honest I think there are other things but I can't remember off the top of my head, maybe I need to replay both :P
Parappa 2 is also better in some regards, but I do think it was "lost potential" since it didn't go above and beyond of what Lammy had already done, even tho Parappa 2 was in significantly better hardware.
So I don't think that Parappa 2 is bad, after all, I also do quite enjoy Parappa 2, but I do think that it could've polished a bit more and offered more content.
IMO, the story in the second game is just garbage compared to the original. Noodles? Like really? Magical noodles?
I hope there’s some miracle where the title of this video ends up aging like milk
me as well
Me too. This is one time where I want to have a video title make me look like an idiot.
I always thought that a 3rd Parappa could work if established rappers and artists were there to guest star as the new instructors.
Hell nah parapper vs drake 💀
@@user-ds3hb5iq7h first ice age now this
@@user-ds3hb5iq7h Parappa Vs Lil Durk
@@user-ds3hb5iq7h honestly Drake himself would fit right in to the PaRappa universe
@@gregger_mcgregger I can imagine the Rodney Greenblatt drawing already.
From what I hear, Greenblat's stress with working on the anime (Sony restricted him to character designs and refused to give him creative input) and how he felt he was unable to come up with anything as successful as PaRappa caused him to leave the video game industry, though he and Matsuura did come back for MMMM, which, well... He also really hated the anime, which, as a whole, was only... decent.
Not to mention that Greenblat also protested against having Parappa as a fighter in Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale, which fell into deaf ears. Sony only did it because of fans demanding the bulk of the roster being from the PS1 era, which wasn't represented well, having only Parappa, Sir Daniel, Toro, Sweet Tooth, and Spike/Kakeru.
I just hate how Sony only Focus in hyper realistic games
fr bro, i wish they came back to the cartoony games
Ikr I WANT MORE GAMES
They’re also on-par with their competitors like Sega and Nintendo too before the 7th generation of gaming
This and Ape Escape... man I need sequels for them badly 😔
They managed to get a good lock for the Apes
That explains why there’s no Ape Escape they haven’t excaped yet
@@superstefanmaker2483Ape Escape had one of it’s PSP spinoffs, Ape Academy ported to PS5. Sony still cares but they dropped Toro, Parappa, The Apes and Spike they just dropped everything except for Kratos, Sackboy and Ratchet.
I adore the 2 Parappa games and Lammy.
So so unique, charmingly lovable and weird.
As someone who has only played on PC for like 7 years now, a new Parappa would be the only thing that would make me buy a new PlayStation.
This is definitely the fist time I've heard of this March game.. but I'm intrigued now.. I also love Vib Ribbon!
This is just a Major Minor's Majestic March review.
Kinda sad we won't be getting another Parrappa game probably ever, it was fun to revisit.
Rip prappa and his hat 😢 he will be missed
wow... as much as i liked the parappa games i never knew about the existence of MMMM, now i see why the creators wouldn't want a failure like this to happen again
Heyo!! I wanted to say a couple things!! First, I love this video! The info is collated super well and the points are very unbiased, which I love!
I wanted to bring to light some things about the series, and where it's heading. And, this is gonna sound super fake, because, ya know, everyone lies on the internet.
However, since 2017 I've kept in touch with the VA of PaRappa over Facebook. Regarding the whole college situation, he honestly feels really bad about it even after this long, and is actively trying to get his life back together after a rough patch. Dred (the VA) really wants a 3rd game, he views PaRappa as a part of his identity, which I find so special, and so wholesome, his passion for the series is still so strong.
From what he's told me in the past, he's currently trying to rent out studios to produce his own music, which I think is super neat!!
And lastly, the main reason for us not getting a 3rd game as of now, is Sony. The VAs alone cannot make it happen, sadly, so, unless PaRappa regains a surge of popularity, or people pitch brilliant ideas to Sony that maintain the charm of the past PaRappa and UJL games, Sony will not recognise the niche demand for a 3rd game after this long.
P.S. if there's anything you want me to pass on to Dred, lemme know and I'll let u know if he responds and what with!!
Thank you for listening!!
Out of privacy for Dred, I will most likely not be showing the DMs.
I'm glad to hear he's doing better.
@@MykonosFan Yeah, I thought some might be happy to hear it :)
Well, I think there could be a possibility that parappa could really surge up in popularity (again), there's an upcoming indie spiritual successor to parappa (like truly based off the gameplay of parappa, unlike fnf), and I've noticed it's already catching the eyes of many. Maybe once it does come out, it'll surge in popularity and maybe more attention will be brought to parappa. Though it's just a thought, and probably unlikely
@@CoolBleach what is it called?
eggplant fox reminds me of gaster
or maybe Gruber
Sony currenly is focused in "americanized" their AAA games.
That's the conclusion that I get when they shuted down Japan Studio.
Pretty much - they and microsoft want to have the Prestiege with no regard to the weird and colorful games of their past. Sony should just relinquish their decrepit IPs and let people who care takeover - but I guess theres too much money in occassionally selling plushies of their old mascots.
@@razriri1467 Ratchet being the only relic of that bygone era is very depressing. Plus, when was the last time a Jak plush was made?
i think something that could have given the game a lot more variety was if they stretched the interpretation of “marching band leader” and tried different things with it. maybe for most of the game MM doesn’t form proper marching bands but instead finds opportunities to practice leading other things like conga lines, cross country running, parties, raves, whatever, and then in the last level his leadership skills have become so well known around town that they ask him to lead the festival marching band. Kinda like how parappa doesn’t actually rap on a stage until the finale. Having different instruments and music genres in different levels would also have a lot of potential.
love these ideas!!
Ima pour one out for my homie. RIP PaRappa
Who else is here after parappa 3 got announced…..i wish
why does project rap rabbit looks like a fusion of vibri, mojib ribbon, and parappa? :o
It was meant to be masaya's dream project. with keiichi yano, it was sure to be their best game yet, taking inspiration from all of their previous franchises. unfortunately it didn't pan out that way...
The game might not be popular enough for Sony to make sequels, but at least there's still alot of people making videos of them.
Also there was like 3 popular memes about parappa, so thats nice
MMMM could have been a great game if they just hammed up the drum line aspect of it. Some places really make drum line a whole spectacle.
Nice to see what this game is finally about and yeah... it doesn't seem to hold a candle to Parappa, the marching band aesthetic doesn't really lend itself either. Very good point about why we'll never get a new one and how easy it is to write games off with malice, people still made these games and that shouldn't be forgotten no matter the quality.
Also the piece you recognised from Pokémon sounds like an Animal Crossing piece to me
kinda said they never remastered um jammer lammy
I hope they do sometime soon. More people need to play UJL.
yeah its my 2nd favorite
@@MykonosFan no anytime soon becouse acttualy kat katty va passed away years ago
@@suitloonfourever1808 they should use the old cutscenes and voices from the og and make the animation in the battles higher quality like the remaster of parrapa
When I look at Major Minor’s Majestic March, and I see how it panned out, it makes me think of how Patapon, another marching band-like rhythm game, was able to differentiate itself and become a unique masterpiece unlike anything else I’ve seen. It breaks my heart to see MMMM turn out the way it did
Look man, all I’m saying is that there’s a big market for rhythm games now that a wealth of kids got into Friday Night Funkin’ and loved it. I feel like if Parappa is ever gonna come back, it should be soon
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I never heard of this game but I still listen to parappa the rapper soundtrack
You just gotta believe
I think I saw a MMMM commercial on Disney Channel once? Or maybe it was a review from Wiiviewer back in the day when he was some sort of A Deal on TH-cam.
Always wanted to try it. As a kid I was very obsessed with weird and bad video games (even joined GameFly just to rent Ninja Breadman) and so it was square on my radar. I may have even known about it before I knew about Parappa.
I so want PaRappa and Bust a Groove back!!!! They were so much fun in the RG circuit!
We gotta fight to get them back!!!!
We still gotta believe
I guess :'(
I feel like they should to try to bring back Project Rap Rabbit since there kind of is a demand for vocal based rhythm games now. Friday Night Funkin and Scratchin Melody are evidence of if this
Vib-ribbon was awesome
Honestly, what could of happened was that instead of "lets march to place..place was fun let's go to other place now" instead when they arrive major meets someone who has a problem and he uses his baton kinda like a wand and uses the button input like parrapa to orchestrate music while the character with the problem sings. After the song ends the character gets inspired by major to join him and unlock a song or singing option. During the games ending (and reference with major losing the baton) he realizes that the magic wasn't just the baton, but from major believing in himself similar to how parappa believed in himself at every song stage.
Also this video is underrated!! thanks youtube for reccomending this amazing video!!
what if one day they just make vib ribbon 2 with mp3 capabilities or whatever
everyone expected and wanted parap 3 but instead we got the return of the queen
also eggplant fox looks almost exactly the same as gaster from the parappa anime
Well I mean it'd be the 3rd vibri game not 2nd
@@pearlplayaa yea but like, you wouldn't call parap 2 parap 3 just because lammy exists
@@pearlplayaa Vib-Ripple isn't really a true sequel. It's not really much of a rhythm game.
Honestly i think the reason why Parappa 3 hasn't happened is simpler if i would guess its beacuse. The games are short, There isn't much opportunity for dlc and in game items and a rhythm adventure game is not cheap to make and beacuse the games short length alot of people wouldn't be okay with paying 60 or 70 dollars for it. With these factors in mind i don't think Sony feels its worth making another entry in the Parappa series.
IM SO HIGH RIGHT NOW AND THAT KEEP ON MARCHING BIT SCARED THE ABOSULTE FUCKING HELL OUTNOF ME VRYGBHVVVL
Aww~ I love how you said sweet little doggie~
Yeah…. One time in the Parappa sequel everything in the town was filled with noodles and when he found out who did it he wasn’t even mad at him
And for the record, Parappa hates noodles
Honestly MMMM was just flawed from the beginning while the idea of being a drum major is a neat concept in execution it doesnt work as an entire game. Waving your baton is only good in bite sized moments.
Maybe there could have been something there if you had to sometimes swap to different band members and play a different instrument? Not sure. Maybe then it starts veering too close to Wii Music lol
Abby Lastofus made this happen
The haters were right all along
You also forgot "Leave it to Lammy!" quote from Um Jammer Lammy which is also very similar to that "March march keep on marchin' !"
If rockband didn't exist we'd probably have another game now the genre is shovelware.
Im still praying we'll get an um jammer lammy remaster hopefully Playstation will change their mind and give us another remaster for us dedicated fans
Parappa the rapper is like patapon both of the games wont appear again
but one the only diferences is patapon have more probabilities to have a sequel than parappa ( SIRIUSLY )
Patapon but you're a dog and instead of committing war crimes you just rap out of your way
@@suitloonfourever1808 both of them are gone but the people who make patapon art still makes art of patapons! And the people who gave the ideas are trying to make a new game (kinda) like patapon
He has vanished
Ya ever heard of scratchin meloddi? Spiritual successor to parappa, looks promising. Pretty good video mrkonos
I've watched a friend play it over Discord, it seems interesting. And thanks!
Friday night funking real?!?
@@moosesues8887 how is scratchin melodii similar to fnf?/gen
@@thepnkponcho 😃
it looks promising and charming but i feel the vocaloid doesn’t really sound great and its sometimes confusing whos turn it is most of the time
I never understood why Sony neglects their numerous legacy IPs. It feels like the only PS1 games they ever care about are titles they don't even own which include Crash, Spyro, Metal Gear Solid, and Final Fantasy VII.
"Genere's niche" Given the success FNF had, there is no excuse a rhythm game can become successful today. The Kickstarter for Rap Rabbit failed because of how poorly run the campaign runs like not even showing any concept gameplay until there was less than a week left as well as not even properly publicizing it. Also the stretch goals were beyond asinine.... they asked 3 million dollars for a Switch port at first despite it being known how a Switch dev unit doesn't cost that much... they even had stretch goals for backer exclusive stages...
I've heard of Major Minor's Majestic March back in 2012 when I first got in the Parappa franchise. The idea of a rhythm game with motion controls sounded like a horrible idea for 15 year old me and the fact that veterans in the industry thought it would work is laughable. I know Rhythm Heaven Fever would've been a bad game if it had motion controls and I'm glad those devs had the right idea.
I wouldn't say PRR failed just by poor campaign management, but I'd also like to point out how the year was 2017, and rhythm games were at a really low point in this period of time. And also since it was in 2017, this year was right after the "failures" of many spiritual successor Kickstarters (mighty no. 9 being most notable), and at this point most people had lost faith in funding campaigns like these.
it's sad how PlayStation only ever seems to be interested in making is extremely high budgeted titles and never smaller games.
I feel like Parappa is the kind of franchise that would be more appreciated by Nintendo.
I love that Sony took a chance on this. Such a gem.
One game you didn’t really go over was vib-ribbon which was made by the same guys and IMO was better than Pa-Rappa
Sony REALLY need to reboot their gaming division. Closing Japan Studio is part of WHY gaming is going downhill! The Xbox 360 didn’t have much in the way of cartoony kids games, at least until Kinect came along, but the PS3 had a good few thanks in part to the many Japanese studios developing for it!
Scratchin Melodii is a really good clearly parappa inspired game
But now we got scratchin melody
Discovered you while checking the 10 year old comments on the sonic colors reveal and this is pretty nice content
Thanks! Not gonna lie I wish I could delete comments before a certain year on TH-cam since I'm sure a lot of them are cringeworthy, but I'm really glad it worked out this time haha.
You gotta do what?
I gotta MARCH
I love Parappa the Rapper 2 and Um Jammer Lammy MUCH better than Parappa the Rapper 1. Parappa 1 has some pretty good songs, but horrible detection. You can play perfectly, or even play just an amazing freestyle and then get told you're bad. It took me so long to beat that game due to the horrible detection.
I watched him upload this live on Twitch.
#twitch
why are your views so low wtf this vid is so cool 😭😭😭
The only reason I know about MMMM is because pbg made fun of it lollll
The music in this game slapped 🔥
Did not expect a random game peanutbuttergamer played to have a long history behind it and be connected to parappa the rapper, of all things.
I didn't know Major Minor's Majestic March, I understand better why there was nothing after Parappa the rapper 2 (Major Minor's Majestic March was released in Europe but only in the United Kingdom despite it being translated for all the languages of Europe)
As someone who is a recent fan to parappa, I really wish we get something new, and I don’t own a play station… so I cannot play the original 😭
i knew parappa on smash clone from sony, then years later i discovered chinese stream meme from parappa HAHAHA and that pushes me to play parappa 1 and two, its very funny lol
I sure hope that they don't make PaRappa NFT's, both NanaOn-Sha & Sony are better than this.
the idea isnt the issue
its the execution
if they added a button mode it would have been slightly better to play (from what i see)
Can we at least get another level with that flea market frog. I was mad when he wasn't in the second game.
i always asked myself this question
I only knew about MMMM because of PeanutButterGamer. It's interesting to get more of the history of it
Also at 7:45 , that voice just sounds like a Chris Chan impression to me, I don't know how to feel about that, lol
It sounds NOTHING like Chris Chan and stop acting like Twitter users treating her like the boogieman 🙄
Me personally, I'd love to see a sequel to parappa the rapper, or a remaster to PTR2 for a 30 year anniversary that includes online 2 player modes, and that would be compatible for Xbox, PlayStation, PC and mobile.
at least we have scratchin melodii
Lol, I remember the project rap rabbit. I always wondered what happened with that, it honestly looked better than an official Parappa project.
I'll be forever grateful to PewDiePie for playing the first Parappa on his channel. I'd never heard of these games before that, and honestly, that changed everything for me. I bought a damn PSP just so I could play the game myself. A little later down the line I got a hold of Parappa 2 on PS2 and played the absolute shit out of that. Years later I bought both of these again on PS4 and again played and played and played until I heard the songs in my sleep. Parappa the Rapper 2 must be my favorite in the series, I've sure put the most hours into it, but I greatly love the first one too, it's just so iconic.
A rabbit samurai with locs is a cool design tho
Honestly I would really liked to have tried that game if it had ever come out. Seemed neat.
It would be interesting if they made another one. The games seem to be very bad in gameplay so it would great to see a more new game with great game play.
wasn't there a project someone was making that played like parappa and starred a little girl with headphones? Is that considered a good succesor or was that project abandoned?
I think you're likely remembering Scratchin' Melodii. It's a cool project and seems to still be in development going by their website. For this video I wanted to keep it to games that original creators of PaRappa had involvement with is all, otherwise I'd have mentioned stuff like Friday Night Funkin' (which is also neat).
Not really a good successor in terms capturing the real spirit and joy
this be like half life 3
idk i came up for a name for a new parappa game called Pa-Rapper
Atleast we still have Scratchin Melodii by SEGA
that game wasn't made by SEGA.
I thought for sure after PlayStation allstars we would get a third game. Its time for a sequel to the second.
Finally, more MMMM content to add to the pile. As one of all two unironic fans it's already great to watch people fucking demolish it
Aha! Would you tell me what you like about it? I don't say this to be mean, but I could not find much positive from players of the game aside from a few scattered pieces of fanart. I want to know what those who dig it like about it to round out my perspective.
I felt that
that was the perfect time to say that but a spirital successor is coming out just diffrent people are working on it now it's called scratchin melodii that game is awesome you should check it out
i got a love from the creator!
What the? No, it's not parappa the rapper 3, it's another "spiritual sucessor"
@@elpatosad5757 it basically is
@@amimirmimir512 i dont think its right to compare the two, parappa has a very distinct charm, scratchin melodii does not, at all. it's INSPIRED by parappa, it is in no way tied to it.
This is going to age like milk
I really hope so.
Shame that sony haven’t been bothered with the series
Scratchin' Melodii is similar to Parappa
That's because similarly to Friday night funkin' it was inspired by parappa just more heavily on the gameplay
PaRappa got da Half-Life secuel problem, VALVE has something to do with ma favorite dawg?
Making a Parappa/Um Jammer Lammy game is not easy, i think MMMM shows exactly how difficult creating the cartoony world and scenarios that Parappa has.
Also nobody thinks about how difficult making music is, it's nearly impossible to create a consistently loved album long music set list, much less making it freestyle friendly.
I would love another game but it's easy to forget how much work went into the 3 existing games.
GGGG sounds like Randy Rose from the residents what the hell
PARAPPA MERCH!!!!!!!!!
i mean if we got pikmin 4 we can get ptp 3
0:48
I'd mainly say there won't be a sequel considering what Parappa's VA did.
EDIT: MARCH! MARCH! KEEP ON MARCHING!
That was something I thought about mentioning, but honestly a sound-a-like probably wouldn't be too hard to find if they really wanted to make it happen. I don't think that's that much of a holdup personally.
There literally was
@@unseejuice7522 To Parappa 2 I meant.
@CherriAnimatesYT I'll get over it as soon as they apologize and make it right.
i personally keep in touch with the VA, he's actually trying to make his own songs rn :D I wonder how he's doing atm, if there's any messages u want me to pass along pls reply so I can tell him!! Also, I highly expect most of you to think I'm BSing, but you can quite literally find him on facebook.
2:31
sony would only make parappa 3 if it had already come out on ps4
What hit me at the end that's even sadder about MMMM (lol) is that I probably wouldn't even have clicked on this if it didn't have Parappa in the title.
Not to say I didn't enjoy the MMMM review, very interesting story, specially liked the commentary at 5:58 anyway nice video man much love
Hahahaha KICK PUNCH ITS ALL IN MIND... I FORGOT TOO CLOSE THE DOOR... IN THE RAIN AND IN THE SNOW.... YOU GOTA BELIEVE!!! i still member the songs i have played over 12ys lol
I never played it because I had a demo on another game for it and it was busted
Vibri