So, a theory regarding the ending: You turn into a troll after winning because of Rule 11, "If the black king dies, the crown is given to another member of the royal guard. The perpetual cycle continues." And the troll plays as his own king piece. But if you capture all his pieces, there's nothing else to invoke Rule 11 on. So he kings _you_. There is no win condition for white - either black wins, or white becomes black and wins. So how do you avoid this fate? You cheat. Notice how the troll's last words are to accuse you of cheating? That was his fatal mistake. Next time you play this game, try pressing space during the ending and see if it lets you go into accusation mode. Calling his Rule 1 violation and cheating back is probably how you get the good ending.
in theory it may give you that ending... but there's one thing you missed. Successfully spotting a troll cheat will allow you to cheat back as revenge... "You [may] cheat this turn" It's not really a direct statement... but could it be that to win is to not..?
@@tsunamininja So I bought the game after seeing that Icely didn't want to make a no cheat run, proceeded to play the entire 1st game without cheating, and was rewarded with the good ending. After you win, the troll calls you an idiot for not cheating despite him cheating all the time and the rulebooks allowing you to cheat if you call *their* cheats, then asks you if you were trying to teach him a lesson, and finally tries to convince himself that you cannot change him, repeating it 4 or 5 times. He then slips and falls (does the slippery tiles movement). You can then go up, and get now rewarded with the "You crossed the bridge." quote, followed by the number of attempts, the time, and a quote stating that you never cheated before the credits roll, and you get sent to the main menu.
@@bird9188 Basically, the phrase “chess battle advanced” is just just a running gag on Icely’s channel similar to the phrase “that’s just a theory, a game theory” from the game theorists channel.
100%ed this game just now. Great game. My complaint was exactly what Icely did -- troll does not understand page T2. He can accuse you of cheating even when the cheating piece does not exist, HOWEVER -- that's because this is a special case. Both the troll and the player are not allowed to cheat in a way that removes the cheating piece from play. If the cheating piece becomes a castle, the castle is now the cheating piece.
I see everyone is speculating how to get the good ending, my 10 cents is to keep your pawns alive, get the troll for cheating 8 times, or naturally ascend your pawns, there was a torn page about not letting all 8 of them ascend
I checked the achievements and (semi spoilers about Endings) Theres not just a "good" and "bad" ending: theres also an "Ascension" ending and a "Goose ending" (??!) I can only assume the ascension ending is based on pawns, but... goose?? I dont have a clue.
The rules of chess are already cursed. All games of chess are two trolls competing. En-passant? Castling? Promotion? Stalemate? All rules that were clearly made up on the spot by someone who was losing.
Since I dont see anyone mentioning it: around 6 minutes, black picked up your bishop and set it down in the same square. Technically it wasn't moved. Cheeky bastard.
If you catch him cheating, you can just stack two of his pieces on each other, accuse him again for walking in anothers shoes, then keep doing that until 1 move captures every single piece
Counter-trolled the game on my first try. If you want to give the game a fair shake, you _have_ to go in blind, because the rules are the same for all clients. By metagaming based on Icely's video, I immediately knew things I'd otherwise have to trial-and-error t figure out. My strategy was to play dumb: The troll actually blundered material against me with some of his cheats, and accepting this board state isn't counted as cheating; for example, he moved one of my pawns to a position where on my turn, I would then be able to move that same pawn to capture something of his.
"troll chess" me: [homestuck war flashbacks] rulebook: a horse, the word Epilogue, a sketch of 4 quadrants nexxt to the epilogue me: [FLASHBACKS INTENSIFY]
You should have taken your own queen at the end, im guessing that would have checkmated him since his king was off the board and it was his last piece so all he could do was move your queen back and forth to stall. He mind-gamed you out of a checkmate victory
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So, a theory regarding the ending:
You turn into a troll after winning because of Rule 11, "If the black king dies, the crown is given to another member of the royal guard. The perpetual cycle continues." And the troll plays as his own king piece. But if you capture all his pieces, there's nothing else to invoke Rule 11 on. So he kings _you_. There is no win condition for white - either black wins, or white becomes black and wins.
So how do you avoid this fate? You cheat.
Notice how the troll's last words are to accuse you of cheating? That was his fatal mistake. Next time you play this game, try pressing space during the ending and see if it lets you go into accusation mode. Calling his Rule 1 violation and cheating back is probably how you get the good ending.
OMG
in theory it may give you that ending... but there's one thing you missed.
Successfully spotting a troll cheat will allow you to cheat back as revenge... "You [may] cheat this turn"
It's not really a direct statement... but could it be that to win is to not..?
There's also the paper pointing out that he doesn't want pawns to ascend, specifically drawing out all of them...
My theory (halfway through the video) is simply that you need to win without cheating to get the good ending.
@@tsunamininja So I bought the game after seeing that Icely didn't want to make a no cheat run, proceeded to play the entire 1st game without cheating, and was rewarded with the good ending.
After you win, the troll calls you an idiot for not cheating despite him cheating all the time and the rulebooks allowing you to cheat if you call *their* cheats, then asks you if you were trying to teach him a lesson, and finally tries to convince himself that you cannot change him, repeating it 4 or 5 times.
He then slips and falls (does the slippery tiles movement). You can then go up, and get now rewarded with the "You crossed the bridge." quote, followed by the number of attempts, the time, and a quote stating that you never cheated before the credits roll, and you get sent to the main menu.
the closest we've gotten to a full chess battle advanced game
Definitely. This is going to be fun to watch.
Isn't Chess Battle Advanced supposed to be an advanced version of Chess Evolved Online? or am I rusty on the lore?
@@sergewind2208 You are, chess battle advanced was canceled, now there is Chess Battle Advanced (icely version)
I still don't understand what chess battle advanced is
@@bird9188 Basically, the phrase “chess battle advanced” is just just a running gag on Icely’s channel similar to the phrase “that’s just a theory, a game theory” from the game theorists channel.
I love how rule 8 is just a horse.
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@@ArceusFireForme I guess HE finally got tired of politics and became a horse
It’s connected to rule 9
The 34th Rule of Chess: If it Exists, there is a Chess Version of it.
Sooooo what about chess balls
Chessticles
@@tolomas3721 lmao
wrong, the 34th rule is that the troll can have an affair
I'm Beating My Chmeat With this one
Hi Finn here! Thank you so much for playing the game
A truly advanced version of chess
underrated game + comment
The hand rubbing is very formidable.
findanse
I think it would be nicer if you didn't instantly lose for you cheating/false accusing, just a bit too punishing in my opinion
act/chapter 1 is before meeting the goblin, act/chapter 3 is after defeating it.
so this is act 2?
and where is the act 1
@@The_Dr_Fate act 1 is the start of the game, before the goblin appears, act 2 is before challenging the goblin
When there's only one piece left, you can actually just cheat. He has no more pieces, therefore he has lost.
Except for a tower, if you still have one on your side, I'd guess.
cool i was wondering if you could do that
How do you mean? Doesn't he always take your king with his king, which is his last piece?
CBA!!!!!!
"The rules are the same as chess, except for these changes."
that was a uhhhh whos that one guy that makes videos like "How to play uno flip" and he explains it beautifully reference, right?
@@Joe_Griddlyi dont know troller
yes@@Joe_Griddly
,,For a refresher of those rules, check out this video *points to top-right corner*''
@@_Solose_it's something like sss games.
I think the good ending involves something along the lines of getting across the bridge... without trollification. Maybe no cheating.
yeah, probably beat the game without revenge cheating
This is correct. It took 7 attempts and 48 minutes, but I just got the good ending. Just don't cheat.
you out-goblin'd the goblin by not doing the no-revenge-cheat run. I am frustrated but at the same time I'd do it too. lol
Cheat Battle Advanced.
9:00 "This is undefended right now" he says forgetting the troll rules on pawn movement
Also not realizing that there's a bishop right next to it defending it lol
Finally, chess got an update
9:40 it was you capturing the old king with your queen
100%ed this game just now. Great game.
My complaint was exactly what Icely did -- troll does not understand page T2. He can accuse you of cheating even when the cheating piece does not exist, HOWEVER -- that's because this is a special case. Both the troll and the player are not allowed to cheat in a way that removes the cheating piece from play. If the cheating piece becomes a castle, the castle is now the cheating piece.
I think the enemy lift of your pieces occasionally to make you think that they moved and you false accuse him
You did fall for it the first time
We'll be waiting for the sequel to this CBA, the Decent Battle Advanced
Like playing chess against a child... who made their own rules...who is also cheating, very nice
but he actually writen all the rules and when u catch him cheating he lets u cheat for one turn too
We all have trauma to rules after playing the password game
I see everyone is speculating how to get the good ending, my 10 cents is to keep your pawns alive, get the troll for cheating 8 times, or naturally ascend your pawns, there was a torn page about not letting all 8 of them ascend
I had the same idea. The first ending I got was from ascending all my pawns. Thank you bishops.
Bishop goes on vacation, actually works out of town
well isnt it because he goes on like missionary things
this is like if the inspector from papers please played along with the rules of chess made by a 6 year old
LMAO
Strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Teacher, teacher, if the tower doesn't summon a valorite scrap every 8.5872 seconds, then may I accuse it of cheating?
That rule looks very sus
It is totally feasible to beat him without cheating. most of his cheating is silly stuff.
Cheating Bridge Antagonist.
If my paternal grandfather still had his mental faculties this game would give him a conniption
Poofesure should play this game. The look on his face is gonna be PRICELESS.
0:18 bro looking dubious with his rhyme
Watch it at x2 speed, you wont regret it
Finally, an advanced chess battle.
I like how the troll hits a little jig
I checked the achievements and (semi spoilers about Endings)
Theres not just a "good" and "bad" ending: theres also an "Ascension" ending and a "Goose ending" (??!)
I can only assume the ascension ending is based on pawns, but... goose?? I dont have a clue.
The chess of lawyers ig
I think we should show this game to Doug Doug
Twitch chat boutta be wild
Word
The only game of chess that admits the AI is cheating.
The rules of chess are already cursed. All games of chess are two trolls competing. En-passant? Castling? Promotion? Stalemate? All rules that were clearly made up on the spot by someone who was losing.
Chess Bridge Attlevanced
What a cool little game! I'm not even going to watch the video, I'm buying this right now.
the ending follows the Troll's rules, when the king is defeated, it passes the crown to the next piece
Hikaru and Carlson got a hell of a rival now.
Chess battle abridged
Oh my God, just take the castle with your bishop!!
Your voice sounds like if a helium balloon meets a nuclear bomb (which is a good thing)
25:14
You're not allowed to stack pieces
I mean, it did never say that other pieces could capture friendly pieces. Only that Towers (rooks) could.
What can I say the thumbnail got me..
YOU READ SO INCREDIBLY FAST! I have to keep having to go back to see what the troll said…
Papers, chess.
Chess Bridge Adventure
The unholy fusion we all needed. Chess and The Password Game
16:20 thats such a funny troll, changing what happens when pawn reaches the end xD
This is unironically the best thumbnail I've seen in years
Finally! Chess is getting an update! xD
8 acending probably means something happens if all 8 pawns acend
This is a really neat concept, if it could be randomized everytime it could have a lot of potential
Rule 34 of Chess 😊
Rule 34 💀
Metal Gear Rising Revengeance Reference
This is like playing chess against your little sibling who "always wins" and "never cheats" because he make up the rules
Chess on-a-bridge advanced
Chess crossed with Papers Please!
Since I dont see anyone mentioning it: around 6 minutes, black picked up your bishop and set it down in the same square. Technically it wasn't moved. Cheeky bastard.
8:50 its especially difficult considering what happened last time two towers were next to eachother
Troll: You may cheat this turn
Me: I move all my pieces onto your pieces.
3:03
i was gonna say "guys is this a lisa the pointless reference" but i realized it might actually be a lisa the pointless reference
no way we got chess 2 before gta 6
i love the graphics
This is the only chess game I could win against someone because I play less chess than them
I think you could accuse troll of being out of bounds in the last game
If you catch him cheating, you can just stack two of his pieces on each other, accuse him again for walking in anothers shoes, then keep doing that until 1 move captures every single piece
finally.
chess battle advanced.
troll battle advance
Troll Saddle Advanced!
Dude you probably gotta ascend all of your pawns or something
I'm incredibly impressed how fast Icely adapted to the stupidest possible Chess rules
imagine this with multiverse time travel
I like the fact that black pieces' king is just dancing and vibing troll 😂 It's so hilarious)
I don't have a rook anymore! 16:56
Counter-trolled the game on my first try. If you want to give the game a fair shake, you _have_ to go in blind, because the rules are the same for all clients. By metagaming based on Icely's video, I immediately knew things I'd otherwise have to trial-and-error t figure out.
My strategy was to play dumb: The troll actually blundered material against me with some of his cheats, and accepting this board state isn't counted as cheating; for example, he moved one of my pawns to a position where on my turn, I would then be able to move that same pawn to capture something of his.
This is Chess Battle Advanced of all time
19:40 lol, Metal Gear Rising reference, The Troll was senator Armstrong the whole time.
Sounds like "Double Cranko," only with actual rules.
Imagine making pornography of a two thousand year old game lol
16:20 the troll didn’t see you cheat there
Because he was allowed to cheat that turn, due to correctly accusing the troll of cheating.
Bought the game after watching 3 minutes of your video. Best marketer award.
"troll chess"
me: [homestuck war flashbacks]
rulebook: a horse, the word Epilogue, a sketch of 4 quadrants nexxt to the epilogue
me: [FLASHBACKS INTENSIFY]
Chess but stupid and it makes no sense. I might as well try to play with somebody with my own rulebook sometime.
This was a very big-minded video.
Hi! You are my favourite TH-camr and you have shown me a LOT of awesome puzzle games. Extra Deluxe Chess Battle Advanced.
You should have taken your own queen at the end, im guessing that would have checkmated him since his king was off the board and it was his last piece so all he could do was move your queen back and forth to stall. He mind-gamed you out of a checkmate victory
rule 34: do not make pawn bottom
papers please chess
When the bishop turned into the king, it broke the rule cuz the king cant be out of the map
rule number 34: if a queen is surrounded by more than 3 pieces of the opposite side she is eliminated at the start of the next turn, no exceptions
"Bishop from Z99999 checkmate you" vibes
3:50 I mean, like the book said, "some tiles are slippery"
You could absolutely do a no cheat run! The troll bot kinda sucked
What i thought when i first seem the bad ending is to win without cheating even if you can. Maybe that's the way to get a good ending
You know, it has been a long time since I bought a game because the person I watched playing it was simply atrocious at it.
thank you
i liked the part with the troll chess
Anyone can explain the chess battle advanced gag? I'm new to the channel and it is everywhere lol
chess battle advanced
CBA
chess battle advanced
Imagine a chess battle, but more advanced
To get the answer you must vow to chess battle advanced for the rest of all time.
chess banter advanced