Sleepwalking Murder or Unrequited Love? | Randy Herman Case Analysis

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  • This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Randy Herman? This murder case was the topic of a Hulu documentary titled “Dead Asleep?”
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    References:
    Popat, S., & Winslade, W. (2015). While You Were Sleepwalking: Science and Neurobiology of Sleep Disorders & the Enigma of Legal Responsibility of Violence During Parasomnia. Neuroethics, 8(2), 203-214. doi:10.1007/s12152-015-9229-4
    MacLehose, W. (2013). Sleepwalking, Violence and Desire in the Middle Ages. Culture, Medicine, and Psychiatry, 37(4), 601-624. doi:10.1007/s11013-013-9344-9
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ความคิดเห็น • 824

  • @richardhart9204
    @richardhart9204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    When my oldest boy was very young, he would often sleepwalk, without murdering us.

    • @houseofsolomon2440
      @houseofsolomon2440 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      My siblings tell me that as a kid, I would sleepwalk periodically. Never killed anyone - not even once 👍🏻

    • @janedoe7229
      @janedoe7229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I too would sleep walk as a child. Yet my whole family remains alive.

    • @lisabradford8180
      @lisabradford8180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@janedoe7229 mine too

    • @leahflower9924
      @leahflower9924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol

    • @Catsss1017
      @Catsss1017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Lol my uncle used to sleepwalk. I remember he once tried to carry a tv out of the apartment. He did bizarre things but you know without trying to kill anyone.

  • @rayross997
    @rayross997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +338

    "He worked at a beef processing plant, he felt as though it was a dead end job" The poor cows no doubt agreed.

    • @GGiblet
      @GGiblet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      My thoughts exactly!! 💔

    • @tb-dv1zc
      @tb-dv1zc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I do believe Dr Grande intended this pun.
      And totally agree. I cannot grieve enough for the way animals are treated on this planet

    • @chazzbranigaan9354
      @chazzbranigaan9354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@tb-dv1zc lmao 🤣 you grieve over cows?

    • @aranmyracle7369
      @aranmyracle7369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@chazzbranigaan9354 You don't?

    • @chazzbranigaan9354
      @chazzbranigaan9354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@aranmyracle7369 no

  • @BurroGirl
    @BurroGirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +322

    "I might be asleep right now.." Dr. Grande breaks his unemotional delivery with a great little smile !!!

    • @kathyclark8274
      @kathyclark8274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That was surely a Polaroid moment, wasn't it?

    • @BurroGirl
      @BurroGirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@kathyclark8274 absolutely!!

    • @allthebest744
      @allthebest744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He was probably just sleep walking.

    • @mikemike4835
      @mikemike4835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dr. Grande would you consider doing the shedden massacre or the mayerthorpe rcmp shootings they would be great episodes ty!

    • @caitieterasa
      @caitieterasa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@allthebest744 no. He stabbed her 27 times. Sleepwalkers won’t do anything they wouldn’t normally do. That’s why so many get behind the wheel bc it’s an everyday activity. He was mad she didn’t accept his advances.

  • @Cristinamk
    @Cristinamk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    My old coworker was good friends with this poor girl. When the incident first took place, the news labeled it as a jealous lover type murder or unrequited love. They were never together and she never gave any indication that she had any feelings toward him other than platonic. Such an awful thing that happened to what I’ve heard was a wonderful person.

  • @kathyclark8274
    @kathyclark8274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    Viewing alcohol intoxication as a badge of honour is such a sad reflection on this dismal lifestyle.

    • @SlackerU
      @SlackerU 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's not surprising though. Even my county can't release a community packet that doesn't include local-college improvements beside alcohol ads, with those being beside places for 14yo to shop & hang out. It's a weird culture we've got.

    • @andreakevresian1429
      @andreakevresian1429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I feel like this part of his analysis was really inaccurate -- people make shirts to commemorate loved ones that have died and then they "sell them" for donations for the family for medical and funeral costs. Especially young people who have passed. I don't think him having the shirt was a "badge of honor" thing like Dr. Grande said, it was probably from a benefit the family put on or something.

    • @itsjeninMass
      @itsjeninMass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@andreakevresian1429 Dr. Grande has had other questionable takes on substance use in the past, as well. That rubbed me the wrong way, too.

    • @bigsteve6729
      @bigsteve6729 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheer up love

    • @hannannah1uk
      @hannannah1uk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@andreakevresian1429 Quite right. Much more likely explanation than 'alcohol as a badge of honour'.

  • @Mr.Chris.P.Bacon1
    @Mr.Chris.P.Bacon1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    *Textbook case of “If I can’t have you, then NOBODY CAN” fatalistic psychotic thinking!*

    • @chieflordbossking4707
      @chieflordbossking4707 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That don't make any sense cuz why would anybody want some woman hanging around.
      I got a dozen I'll give him if you need one that bad.

    • @aaronwalterryse4281
      @aaronwalterryse4281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree with you. The statement I made about shamefulness was directed at someone else who may have deleted their pitiful comment.

    • @Mr.Chris.P.Bacon1
      @Mr.Chris.P.Bacon1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chieflordbossking4707 you might be a good looking dude with a lot of swag or charisma…. There are some dudes that can’t get ANY WOMEN no matter how hard they try… They are called INCELS. THOSE DUDES make it to 30 yrs old with no sex at all. 😩

    • @chieflordbossking4707
      @chieflordbossking4707 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mr.Chris.P.Bacon1 I forgot I hit send on this comment?
      I don't have charisma and I'm not charming. But what I do I treat my bithces like an ATM card, I'll take the ugliest bithh in Oakland over a one. I don't have no time for beginners. Mac dre happens to be playing.

    • @jguenther3049
      @jguenther3049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, Mr. 432, that's the point: it's psychotic. Nothing could be gained by killing her.

  • @ChristinePerez903
    @ChristinePerez903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +369

    It always baffles me why people kill because that person doesn’t love them. Why would you wanna be someone who doesn’t love you? It’s really sad and frustrating.
    Great analysis Dr Grande!!

    • @LukeSumIpsePatremTe
      @LukeSumIpsePatremTe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      They don't want to be with someone who does not love them; they want to be with that someone - and that they love them.

    • @sarahk1820
      @sarahk1820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I think he is a disturbed individual and he was unable to deal with rejection.

    • @scottricci5063
      @scottricci5063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      He made her part of him forever in his mind. Sad, pathetic.

    • @bluegreenglue6565
      @bluegreenglue6565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @mike christian Chum, you need to calm down and retract your judgement of this person about whom you know nothing at all. You have disclosed several things about yourself in your rant that shed light on your motivations but have zero reflection upon the author if the thread. I feel sorry for you, but will now move on.

    • @juanantoniolopezchaides2532
      @juanantoniolopezchaides2532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You are talking from the point of view of a level headed, self composed, sane person with little to no untreated life ruining mental health burdens on them. Some people and animals are unable to cope with rejection to the point they just let aggression to take over.

  • @mitch-lifestyle1692
    @mitch-lifestyle1692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    I’m totally baffled as to why she even returned to house after all his bizarre and creepy behavior the night before !!

    • @mikebond6328
      @mikebond6328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I was thinking that too. I wouldn’t have gone back for a gift, I would have told him to mail it or keep it. He probably made that part up and we’ll never know what he really said to get her to come back.

    • @michellemahar9030
      @michellemahar9030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      She thought he was just intoxicated and she was leaving in a day. He had never raised his voice and she never suspected violence. It isn't fair to blame the victim. She thought he was a misguided guy. Unfortunately, he was more than just misguided.

    • @pinkweds1547
      @pinkweds1547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      They where roomates

    • @mitch-lifestyle1692
      @mitch-lifestyle1692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@michellemahar9030
      Of course not the victims fault. I'm just saying....me personally....if I'm in the process of vacating my apartment, and on my last night there a roommate (whom I'm not attracted to) appears in my closet naked, I'm probably not gonna bother returning once I'm finally out.

    • @michellemahar9030
      @michellemahar9030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@mitch-lifestyle1692 fair. I think she likely explained it away figuring she was there a short time.

  • @nicklager1666
    @nicklager1666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Well i have heard of skeletons in the closet, but naked intoxicated young males seem a bit excessive. Nice analysis Grande.

    • @ParodyWhitney
      @ParodyWhitney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The closet is such an extra invasive space in your home to violate.. As a women I feel like it’s basically the house version of “inside my purse”. It’s just for you, and having someone insert their naked body amongst all your personal items would be horrifying. Tragically, this wasn’t the worst of it, but this was an alarming warning to get out of the house and run away from this naked person.

    • @jguenther3049
      @jguenther3049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ParodyWhitney Yeah, it was taking "coming out of the closet" to a whole new level.

    • @ParodyWhitney
      @ParodyWhitney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Iris-Angela Jones Oh my gosh, girl. I’m so happy for you that he’s an Ex now!! You’ve got my curiosity piqued though, what WAS he doing in your closet? Was he trying on your clothes or something?

    • @tashastidwell6915
      @tashastidwell6915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh i am gonna hold the laughing emoji. But that's a funny way you put it Nick

    • @PetreaGalina
      @PetreaGalina 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the key word here is "intoxicated" - nothing rational, reasonable, emotional, playful-erotic to derive from there

  • @Batfemme639
    @Batfemme639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As a sleepwalker since childhood, I know I do and say weird things when I'm asleep (NO recreational drugs or alcohol). However, I'm not THAT hard to wake up and there is NO WAY that I could remain asleep through the commission of a violent crime. I find these stories incredible.

  • @frostbite3318
    @frostbite3318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    17:01 “killing somebody with a knife is a lot of work”
    Tell me about it Dr. Grande, best exercise I had in years.

  • @happybunny44
    @happybunny44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I also really liked that the Jury really took the case seriously.

  • @DottieMinerva
    @DottieMinerva 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I think him being naked in her closet was his first attempt but he knew her friend was waiting for her and could potentially stop it.

    • @emilybraverman4299
      @emilybraverman4299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      his friend was in the house before he got naked. i think the closet incident is so weird but not a murder attempt. idk what that was though

    • @PetreaGalina
      @PetreaGalina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that little game wasn't intended for the third person, that is for sure, any other interpretation doesn't count

    • @kissarococo2459
      @kissarococo2459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@emilybraverman4299 clumsy attempt at seduction?

  • @stephaniekanoun4409
    @stephaniekanoun4409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    My sister surprised me by saying she'd order Dr. Grande's book for me! One copy of Harm Reduction on the way! 😄 📖 I can't wait to read it! I love all Grande Media - videos, podcast, and now I get the book form.

    • @BeatJunkie-mq1tc
      @BeatJunkie-mq1tc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dude and he's so funny!

    • @kayzbluegenes
      @kayzbluegenes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The book is really good; enjoy it!

    • @mikemike4835
      @mikemike4835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dr. Grande would you consider doing the shedden massacre or the mayerthorpe rcmp shootings they would be great episodes ty!!

    • @erikamarchese377
      @erikamarchese377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I loved this book!!

  • @JustDr.S
    @JustDr.S 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I'm asleep right now, while I'm typing this comment. 😴
    I agree, Dr.Grande. He didn't kill her while he was sleepwalking. You can sleepwalk, talk, and do a lot of other things while asleep,, when you have serious sleep disorders. What he did, the fact that she fought back, no way you'd stay asleep through all of that. 🧐
    Interesting video, Dr.Grande.
    I will be back to comment on it, when I wake up. ⏰ Thanks, Dr.Grande! Shhhh. 🤫🥱

    • @LisaPFrampton
      @LisaPFrampton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Okay this was a very hilarious response!! 😂😂

    • @kathrynturnbull990
      @kathrynturnbull990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Right?! Plus the point about there in no WAY being enough time for him to get into slow-wave nREM state sleep (which is when sleep walking happens) is very relevant. Not plausible at all.

  • @HarringtonKyle
    @HarringtonKyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I have violent sleepwalking episodes. I once kicked the window out next to my bed and cut my legs, but never have I tried to cover up any of my sleep shenanigans.

    • @susanfrancis3761
      @susanfrancis3761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You know I wonder if men tend to be violent when sleeping verus women my you know the testosterone! I have slept walked with Ambien but just simply do crazy things and walk around the city! But men? Might be a reasonable doubt? Only himself and God really know!

    • @kathrynturnbull990
      @kathrynturnbull990 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sorry you struggle with this degree of sleepwalking difficulty. It is not fun and very disorienting. The type of sleep walking violence you experience is SO MUCH MORE PLAUSIBLE than this murder defence. Kicking out a window requires not much complexity...just kick the thing repeatedly in a motion that is fairly straightforward. Even riding a bicycle is not that complex if you do it often. I can see punching someone unconscious while sleepwalking: horrendous, but not murder. It's just way too difficult to murder someone with a knife and it is in no way a routine action.

  • @itsjeninMass
    @itsjeninMass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This was premeditated. I have no doubt. He was just trying for a lighter sentence. I think he DID feel remorse after, but it was clearly premeditated.

  • @julielumsden5184
    @julielumsden5184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My husband was diagnosed with idiopathic REM sleep disorder he had it as long as we’ve been married so I can rightfully guess he has had it most of his life.
    He does not use drugs or alcohol when he get active during a dream he gets out of bed punching and screaming and no we don’t sleep together I received a few bruises and a black eyeblack eye before I made the decision to have my own bed. He is on medication now it has helped but not totally stopped the dreams.

  • @fiona-lyons
    @fiona-lyons 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Perhaps people don't want to dismiss the notion of murdering someone whilst sleeping because there is a deep seated fear that any of us might wake up to find we've done something terrible. In reality the worst thing we're likely to do while truly sleep walking is raid the fridge and leave the door open. No way did this guy remain sleeping while a terrified woman fought for her life.

    • @Blissfulnessence
      @Blissfulnessence 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, i bashed my face into the fridge door! Must have thought it was an opening i could maneuver in my sleep state. Needless to say i woke up immediately and had a sore nose for days.
      Ps - i was also eating a werthers when i 'came to'.

  • @melissamealing7636
    @melissamealing7636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Thanks for analyzing this. I tend to indulge chocolate late at night. I think I’m going to blame it on sleepwalking and see if my husband buys it. 😂

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      🍩🍫🍪

    • @Blissfulnessence
      @Blissfulnessence 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I woke up eating candy once. 👀

    • @katarina1852
      @katarina1852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you know there are actual cases of “sleep eating”? These people eat when they’re sleep walking, then return to bed and have no memory the next morning. I saw a special about sleep walking, as I recall a woman didn’t believe she was eating in her sleep. So her husband put a camera in the kitchen and recorded the activity. His wife would get up in the middle of the night, walk into the kitchen, open the refrigerator and start eating the food she found. She would actually eat mayonnaise out of the jar!

    • @YTStoleMyUsername
      @YTStoleMyUsername ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@katarina1852I knew people did this while on Ambien, but not just sleepwalking alone. Ambien makes people sleep-eat, sleep-shop (online purchases), sleep-cook (when my mom took it she would take out pots and pans and flour and in the morning have no idea why they were there lol). But yeah that is interesting and weird!
      I indulge in chocolate late at night too sometimes... I would also like to blame this activity on "sleep-eating" so I cannot be held responsible 😂

  • @allineedis1mike81
    @allineedis1mike81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I've slept walked a half dozen times over the years I actually remember. My parents tell me I did as a kid as well, i'm in my 40's now. Once as a young adult i tried to climb out my window naked, woke up when my foot touched the cold ground. Another time i tried for some reason to put a big bird cage in bed with my girlfriend. Woke up balancing this 4 ft tall cage on the edge of the bed. Another time i walked into my Dads bedroom naked thinking I was going to the bedroom. No idea why I was always naked. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that I wake up, easily as soon as anyone speaks to me. I still occasionally (like once a yr or so) wake up on the couch after going to sleep in the bedroom. Its extremely creepy, like being black out drunk without all the good times pissing off everyone around you. Regardless, even I dont believe the sleep walking defense.

    • @murphychurch8251
      @murphychurch8251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh dear, the bird cage 😂 It's weird what kinds of stupid things one does while sleepwalking. During a particularly stressful time of my life I woke up 5 or 6 times in one night standing in the middle of my bedroom. Each time I thought "oh shit, come on, stop that!". The last time that night I was caressing the leaves of a potted plant. 😳 And yes, it is scary. As if someone else takes over your body and is messing with it (not that I believe in such things, it's just for description). 😨

    • @kenya1067
      @kenya1067 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@murphychurch8251 that ending is a terrifying thought lol someone pupper style controlling the person.

    • @jguenther3049
      @jguenther3049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@murphychurch8251 Carl Jung said: "In each of us there is an ʘther whom we do not know. He speaks to us in dreams and tells us how differently he sees us from the way we see ourselves."

  • @Amanda_007
    @Amanda_007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I watched this documentary....we would have fallen for the sleep story if it had been more then 5 minutes that he claims he was so far in a deep sleep that he killed her and has no memory....smh. the neighbors ring camera caught everything in real time.....he was good as guilty

  • @esteemedmortal5917
    @esteemedmortal5917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    ~Dr. Grande wakes up~
    Dr. Grande: “Huh, that was all a dream”
    Spouse: “What was?”
    Dr. Grande: “I had a really popular TH-cam channel. Maybe I should do that.”
    Spouse: “Are you crazy?”
    Dr. Grande: “I’m not diagnosing, just speculating “

  • @Puff_Puff_Packs
    @Puff_Puff_Packs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My sister sleepwalking and I think it stems from anxiety. She has got the phone book out to call 911, she has tried waking me up telling me someone's at my car (no one was there), the night after our oldest sisters funeral, we were staying at a hotel and she was frantically looking for something on the bed and telling me to get up because somethings wrong, and the scariest one was when again, we were at a hotel and she started patting down her husband, looking for his gun to protect her son from the 'hoodlums' we ran into earlier at the hotel. It scares the living hell out of me when she does that kind of stuff. She never remembers either.

    • @CyberChrist
      @CyberChrist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She needs help with her paranoia :(

  • @ellebrew719
    @ellebrew719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Awhile ago, a roomate of mine, had a brother who was troublesome when he sleepwalked. He told us a few crazy stories but then said that he was cool when he invited him over to sleep over. I woke up to this dude straight up walking around the house knocking things over and being all crazy like Frankenstein or something. I'm sure there must have been some type of substance involved.

    • @KiomonDuck
      @KiomonDuck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He was high on life👍

    • @AMM3.
      @AMM3. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I do absolutely insane things sleeping walking... no substances required.. although that does make it much worse 😁

    • @sprocastersprocaster
      @sprocastersprocaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sounds like Xanax

    • @sumimasenq1
      @sumimasenq1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sounds like a tweeker. After a few days of drugs and no sleep they get into weird fugue states of half-sleep and act like they're in their own world.

    • @frauschuhstiefel2594
      @frauschuhstiefel2594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      My ex-husband used to sleepwalk. Sometimes he would just get up and take a shower for hours, but sometimes he would jump out of bed fighting an invisible enemy to death. He would even yell "I'll kill you!" and stuff like that.
      It was pretty scary.
      Later I found out he was on cocaine most of the time, which explains a lot.
      Now I'm happily divorced!

  • @PatriciaHenry
    @PatriciaHenry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "I'm asleep right now" too! No no no I'm not Dr. Grande. Your videos always keep me WIDE 😳 awake and interested in your spot on analysis of these weird cases.

  • @sparrowhawkerdesigns
    @sparrowhawkerdesigns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have parasomnia and it runs in my family, as well. When my dad was growing up there were reports of a ghost wandering the country roads where they lived. Turned out it was his sister. She would take her sheet with her when she went out roaming. One time they found her miles away curled up in a ball in the middle of the road, sleeping. One time when I was asleep, I unraveled an entire afghan that I was in the process of crocheting. My husband said he watched me do it, tried to talk me out of it and then just let me be. (And there are many other times that I've done things while sleeping that I don't remember the next day.) So, I do believe you can do weird things while sleeping. However, the fact she found him naked in her closet the day before, definitely makes me think that was his first attempt and that this was intentional, done while he was definitely awake. Drunk probably, but awake. It's just too bad she wasn't weirded out enough by that to make sure she didn't go back there alone. :-(

  • @blakegavin6972
    @blakegavin6972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dr. grande why are you such a savage. U always come up with some slayer jokes in such a monotone voice. Which makes it even more funny in my opinion. 😅 love your video g!!!

  • @kyledarrow1809
    @kyledarrow1809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had sleepwalking episodes whilst on a military deployment. It used to really worry my colleagues and also caused concern to the point where conversations were being had of me being sent home. Very strange circumstance to be involved in. It hadn't happened to me since I was very young and not since. I'd love to here about situations like that, that have been investigated by the psychology community.

  • @MrRealstreet
    @MrRealstreet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Really interesting analysis, particularly the part about how it is possible that sympathy can (though ultimately it did not in this case) work against justice.

  • @penelopeclearwater5701
    @penelopeclearwater5701 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just curious, was the tee shirt ever found? Did a tee shirt even exist or did he use that as a ploy to get her to return to the house?

  • @theovolz3073
    @theovolz3073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I feel like there’d have to be absolutely no motive for murder, for a sleepwalking defense to seem in any way remotely plausible.

    • @brandiguarino1778
      @brandiguarino1778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is a guy in prison with NO motive what so ever who killed his wide while sleep walking.

    • @theovolz3073
      @theovolz3073 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brandiguarino1778 what’s his name?

    • @brandiguarino1778
      @brandiguarino1778 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theovolz3073 Scott Falater.

    • @theovolz3073
      @theovolz3073 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brandiguarino1778 wow, that looks like an interesting case.

    • @nickcobb865
      @nickcobb865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ambien sleeping pills as well as many different anti-depressant drugs have homicide and suicidal thoughts as a side effect, but we don’t hold pharma responsible so if those drugs play any role in a murder we always just put full responsibility on the individual, and don’t question what roll drugs might play.

  • @nhmooytis7058
    @nhmooytis7058 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have intermittently sleep walked as did my mother. But she tried at age 12 or so to jump out a second story window, my grandma caught her by her nightgown. Weirdest thing I ever did was sleep drive. Only discovered it because in 2001 I bought a brand new car and a few days later even though I’d only driven it 5 miles the odometer said 20+. It stopped in a week after a couple more incidents of excess miles.

  • @SouthernOregonOrgani
    @SouthernOregonOrgani 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    God this makes me feel like such a well adjusted guy, holy crap

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe anyone hearing this case feels just a bit more stable and civilized than before they heard it?

    • @SouthernOregonOrgani
      @SouthernOregonOrgani 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bthomson well i certainly hope so

  • @LNMarls
    @LNMarls 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DR. GRANDE is so amazing he only diagnoses people, and does not speculate situations, all the while sleepwalking...
    What a Clinical Gangsta!

  • @fractal_3
    @fractal_3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    My ex husband attacked me in his sleep a couple times. I woke up to him on top of me and trying to strangle me. Both times he woke up immediately (the first time as soon as I screamed and the second time as soon as I moved him off of me) and he was very apologetic. He remembered the nightmares he was having during the episodes, and they roughly matched what he was doing irl.

    • @bethanychatman9531
      @bethanychatman9531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Is he going to any therapy? This seems extremely unsafe.

    • @reedriter
      @reedriter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'm sure it can happen but this guy's claim of a sleepwalking is total obvious B.S. But as Dr Grande pointed out, it was really the only type of defense he could make.

    • @fractal_3
      @fractal_3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@reedriter yes definitely. An actual irl example of a sleep attack highlights how outlandish the criminal's claims were. Because just like Dr Grande said, the complexity of what he did adds doubt. Clumsily strangling and being woken with a scream or push is very different than how the criminal's events were portrayed.

    • @fractal_3
      @fractal_3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@bethanychatman9531 he did see a Dr and they decided it was probably a combination of stress and the medications he was on. He made some changes and it stopped for the most part. But he was really apologetic about it, I felt bad for him.

    • @aaronwalterryse4281
      @aaronwalterryse4281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad he's your ex. And I hope he's in jail for assault.

  • @rosemKate
    @rosemKate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Im here super early! Thanks for all your videos and hard work this year 🤗🤗🤗

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Christmas 🌵🌵 is too Cute!

  • @thumbelinasgrace
    @thumbelinasgrace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dr. Grande, what should I do?! I'm not cooking. Not cleaning. Am I addicted?? I'm just so happy underneath my warm Christmas blanket 🎄, with my box of holiday chocolates 🍫, binging on your videos. Can't imagine ending 2021 any better than this! Um, well except than celebrating New Years Eve with my dear hubby, if course. 💝
    All I can say is, thank you YT for recommending Dr G!
    I will make a Patreon donation to your channel today. Blessings to you and your loved ones in 2022!

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Patreon makes it so easy to say thank you in a way that I feel supports the videos We love!

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think it's nice, you showing the pictures of Brooke. 💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏 Prayers for Brooke, her Family, and Friends.

  • @NickvonZ
    @NickvonZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    HAPPY NEW YEAR!
    I had a couple amazing sleepwalking adventures when I was a kid. No murders, though, as far as I know. Did leave the house and go for neighborhood walks, though, apparently.

    • @murphychurch8251
      @murphychurch8251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good grief! That's what I'm always afraid of. Luckily you obviously were not harmed. Living in a city, I'm always scared I might walk around on the street and get hit by a car. I once opened the door (while awake) to find the neighbour in her pyjamas and barefoot standing outside, she had been walking around in the streets in her sleep. Scary! And when I lived very close to a large river I put a bell at my bedroom door. 😆

    • @LisaPFrampton
      @LisaPFrampton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is a lot of sleepwalking problems in my family. Sleep disorders are very bad in my genes.
      I used to, and sometimes still have full on conversations in my sleep. I would even speak in multiple languages (German, Spanish, English) 😂!
      I suffer from insomnia that can be quite severe sometimes and so there was a time when I tried prescribed sleeping meds. BAD idea!!
      I drove to school before it started, in the snow, in the dark and in my pajamas, asleep!
      My sister still struggles with it very severely. She does scary things and has to lock herself in her room at night. Her husband is, gratefully, very patient with her.
      One night she had her legs around her neck and was trying to pull his head off literally as hard as she could!
      He finally got her awake and she was in totally shock and was so upset she cried and cried. It still upsets her when it's brought up.
      One of my brothers had very bad night terrors. He was so very scary whenever he had them!
      Remaining calm was the key to handling them.
      Do not wake up someone having a night terror, it can be dangerous for them.
      Don't wake up someone sleep walking because it can be very traumatic for them as well.
      My brother has done very dangerous things while sleepwalking since being an adult, with 6 children (7th on her way), and happily married.
      He has very bad PTSD from the army and can't get the VA to cover the therapy he needs for it, so that's a bad combo with his tendency to have violent sleepwalking episodes.
      Another time when I was a teen I suddenly woke up late at night/early morning, it was snowing (several inches on the ground already), and very quiet.
      I felt an urge to look outside onto the street.
      Walking down the middle of the street, barefooted, in PJs and no coat, was pre-teen family friend!
      He'd already walked 3 1/2 blocks without shoes on, in the snow and on the freezing road!
      I got my parents up and they got him and his parents.
      They took him to the hospital to be sure there was no frostbite.
      I don't remember if there was or not, I just can't forget the haunting appearance of a kid walking down the middle of the road in the middle of the night and in a snowstorm, barefooted, and that somehow I was awoken when he reached our street and I felt urged to go upstairs and look out our front windows just in time to see him passing right in front of our house!
      Crazy times I tell ya.

    • @jguenther3049
      @jguenther3049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LisaPFrampton I suspect children have a "radar" that protects other children. Or maybe it's angels nudging you.

    • @LisaPFrampton
      @LisaPFrampton 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jguenther3049 I think you're most likely right. I also have the Gift of the Holy Ghost that has made miracles happen countless times.
      I think it's a combination of all three.

    • @jguenther3049
      @jguenther3049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LisaPFrampton Maybe so.

  • @denish1
    @denish1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Here's some interesting dialogue: read me a bedtime story 😊 I find your voice so soothing. Happy New Year Doc! 🎉

  • @nightwood4379
    @nightwood4379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good Morning Dr. G. Agree that “sleepwalking is a very unlikely explanation for murder.” (New terminology - parasomnia). Your conclusion was profoundly definite. Thank you for a clear assessment of this gruesome case.

  • @SeaBlue1976
    @SeaBlue1976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello to all from Greece.Thank you dr Grande for ur non stop uploads💙

  • @chrismcculloch8274
    @chrismcculloch8274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I listen to Dr. grande while I’m driving because I don’t have to look at the video to see or hear what he was saying. However when he said “I could be sleeping right now” I actually looked down at the video and said wait- what ?!?! 😳🤣😳🤣

  • @PhilBender612
    @PhilBender612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    LOl, Yes DR. Grande, I to was asleep through the whole video. lol. I'm Just kidding. That was great and I truly love your analysis on these topics.🙂

  • @aeulogyforsociety2375
    @aeulogyforsociety2375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ahhh!!! Finally!!! We figured out how you are able to put out sooo many videos!!! You're asleep half the time!

  • @katie0303
    @katie0303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great analysis, especially your speculation regarding why he may have murdered her. I am glad he was locked up forever. He lost the privilege to walk freely among us.

  • @solitaireburton3740
    @solitaireburton3740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've seen Dr Grande on FB before and LOVE his analyses. I've now subscribed to his channel. Didnt realise this is a case I've heard before till the nude in the closet bit.
    The guy wasn't sleep walking. He knew what he was doing. Love your work Dr Grande.

  • @j9andphoenix
    @j9andphoenix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    One of the things that I find odd is why defence lawyers do not strongly discourage the plea of insanity when it does not meet any of the criteria for insanity. If anything I would think a jury would be even more inclined to find guilty as the defendant is not taking any ownership. And all that aside - the reality of being found insane does not get you out. You go to a secure mental health facility within the Corrections system and the environment is extremely unpleasant. Not a get out of jail free card by any means.

    • @sexi8784
      @sexi8784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I often wonder how many defense attorneys do tell clients they have to actually be crazy or be very dedicated to playing. Crazy for the rest of their lives lol

    • @meirsimchaesral5095
      @meirsimchaesral5095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      did he have a better defense?

    • @jguenther3049
      @jguenther3049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was Juror #14 on a murder case where the defense attorney tried to float a "Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder" diminished capacity defense. The prosecutor and his PhD expert witness tore the defense to confetti. It was so bad, I wondered why he didn't try for a new trial based on incompetent representation.

    • @realascanb222
      @realascanb222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A plea deal is taken before a case goes to trial.

    • @jguenther3049
      @jguenther3049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@realascanb222 Plea deals involve a guilty or no contest plea. These are not related to pleading insanity and thus are not relevant here.

  • @riverqueen4561
    @riverqueen4561 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Happy New Year Dr. Grande and may you have many of them. 😀

  • @KiKi-tf8rv
    @KiKi-tf8rv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I do think he’s guilty.
    HOWEVER
    Sleepwalking is terrifying! My doctors and family think it’s funny, but for me it’s horrible. I actually make my spouse hide the car keys at night because we discovered I had spent a lot of time in the garage one night. I’ve done this since I was a child and it runs in my family. I’ve only woken up twice while sleepwalking and it was confusing and very scary. I’ve had episodes (I’m told) where I’ve been screaming and others are screaming at me to wake up. I didn’t, and I remembered nothing the next day. No alcohol or drugs. This has been happening since childhood.
    I have a relative who threatened to kill me in her sleep when we were twelve. She couldn’t find the “weapon” she wanted, I hid until morning, and she didn’t remember a thing. She was (and still is!) the sweetest person you’d ever meet! We’re in our 40s and so far we’ve never committed a crime in our sleep…that we know of!😂

    • @sparrowhawkerdesigns
      @sparrowhawkerdesigns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I suffer from this as well. One time I'd fallen asleep in the car on the way to a restaurant. I walked in and ordered my food and then woke up. It really is terrifying.

    • @franpeoples3278
      @franpeoples3278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow very close to home

    • @KiKi-tf8rv
      @KiKi-tf8rv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sparrowhawkerdesigns That is SO scary!!🥺♥️

    • @jguenther3049
      @jguenther3049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “...The question arises: ‘Has the Unconscious consciousness of its own?’” ~Carl Jung, ETH Lectures, Pages 212-213.

    • @KiKi-tf8rv
      @KiKi-tf8rv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jguenther3049 I believe it does. I can’t speak for my relative, but my Unconscious’ consciousness seems to be quite concerned with doing the laundry and the dishes!😂

  • @juliakaz146
    @juliakaz146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the quality and consistent content! Love you dr grande!

  • @Bowiefan4ever
    @Bowiefan4ever 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As always I appreciate your analysis, and the clever one liners.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Clever but also careful. I rarely ( if ever) feel that the comedy is not in good taste. The really sad or horrific cases are treated with great respect.

  • @toniemorrison4263
    @toniemorrison4263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "It was one of the worst documentaries I've seen in recent times." Dr Grande being Dr Grande. Lmao...😅🤣😁😆

  • @thesongbird2383
    @thesongbird2383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, I found your analysis of this crazy case to be extremely interesting. Well done, dear doctor!
    👍💜🌵

  • @aboutagirlnamedjessie
    @aboutagirlnamedjessie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Dr. Grande! You are definitely one of favorite channels! Love your take on cases! Happy New Year!!

  • @lunchboxfightsyou
    @lunchboxfightsyou 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    “I might be asleep right now.“ Is probably my all-time favourite Dr. Grande burn

  • @clays1507
    @clays1507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just watching one of your videos from two years back… while it was good, your storytelling skills are light years ahead of that now. Just fantastic

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not easy to improve on perfect!

  • @susieangelo6410
    @susieangelo6410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Happy New Year Dr. Grande! Thank you for all your Daily Informative Content filled with Facts and Moments of Dry Humor. Stay Safe, Healthy and Happy. Best Channel for Real!

  • @itsmefm
    @itsmefm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr Grande, you have such a soothing voice. I enjoy this type of content but you make it so easy to listen to. Great job

  • @Hansgame
    @Hansgame 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    best episode you released so far while sleeping. thanks for another good one, u rock dr. G

  • @rpskaza
    @rpskaza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, doctor, for your input on all these cases.

  • @chieflordbossking4707
    @chieflordbossking4707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My wife is blaming me for ruining her Birthday That's ridiculous, I didn't even know it was her Birthday

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Quit while you're just one step behind!😑

    • @chieflordbossking4707
      @chieflordbossking4707 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bthomson you'll always find me one or two steps behind a woman. Creepy pervert emoji 😁👀

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank You, Dr. Grande!!

  • @ronancoyne1987
    @ronancoyne1987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was brilliant, loved it.

  • @michael-m
    @michael-m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Doc, just wanna thank you for everything this year. Your cactus game has only gotten better. Here's to the new year, with new stories. 🌵
    -Michael

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And how 'bout them butiful shirts!👕

    • @michael-m
      @michael-m 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bthomson of course the shirts! My bad lol

  • @damienlee4209
    @damienlee4209 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love listening to your videos while I’m working.

  • @TheNaphisa03
    @TheNaphisa03 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Dr Grande!!!!!! Any topic he analyzes is done to perfection. As a PMHNP, I am grateful for this channel.

  • @CarolynsArtAdventures
    @CarolynsArtAdventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So if he did commit a murder while sleepwalking, wouldn't that still be guilty of committing the murder? and maybe put him in a psych facility or something rather than prison? Like an insanity defense?

    • @johnnytsunami4186
      @johnnytsunami4186 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In an insanity defense, if successful, it is "not guilty of murder by reason of insanity". Therefore, by defacto, he would be considered not guilty had the sleepwalking scenario worked in court, but he still would have been committed to a psychiatric facility.

  • @former_vegetarian
    @former_vegetarian 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Newbie to your channel & been binging😂
    Your delivery is great.... So calm, factual and then slide in dark comedy or alliteration🤣 love it
    👍

  • @PossumPityParty
    @PossumPityParty 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad you did this one. That was an interesting doc. Love your channel. Such awesome analysis.

  • @laurenwilson2145
    @laurenwilson2145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid Dr. Grande. And Happy new year. :)

  • @jpgabriele9596
    @jpgabriele9596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dr. Grande Happy New Year !!! Your channel is sooo good , always in - depth, you're always on point , true crime and the macabre are so addicting to watch . - JP from Rye, New York

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is June & Ho still open? Worked in Rye for 20 years! Strangely never felt at home in Westchester. Now in Arizona and loving it!

    • @elainechitsazzadeh3871
      @elainechitsazzadeh3871 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I Enjoy listening to you I believe you make a lot. Of sense

  • @cassienorman6275
    @cassienorman6275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am a sleepwalker and I always woke up when I began to attempt a complex action. Even one as simple as unlocking a door. Never for one second could I believe that Randy killed in his sleep. I also doubt that he road his bike to the bar his mom worked at and then back home while in his sleep. Once again thanks for your intuitive insight. I enjoyed it very much

    • @jguenther3049
      @jguenther3049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      All sleepwalkers are not like Cassie, any more than all Cassies are like Cassie.

  • @youtubeuserzzzz
    @youtubeuserzzzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I remember a case like this in Canada. I believe the Guy wasn't charged. Several cases have occurred in the US but none went without punishment.
    Don't let Drinking etc, impair reality. This young lady was in a relationship.
    This Guy should have looked elsewhere. Instead of assuming and other ridiculous thinking.

    • @CB-wz1ni
      @CB-wz1ni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought about that case as well. In Toronto, Canada, Kenneth Parks drove 15 miles; killed his mother-in-law and attempted to kill his father-in-law. He was charged but acquitted of his mother-in-law’s murder after the jury deliberated 9 hrs. I believe the attempted murder of his father-in-law was later dismissed.
      As for the U.S., there was a 2010 case in Durham, NC where a man named Joseph Anthony Mitchell suffocated his 4-year-old son and attempted to kill his two other children. He used the sleepwalking defense and was acquitted in 2015.

    • @nickhogan3656
      @nickhogan3656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, this guy should’ve looked elsewhere for a romantic partner…
      He also shouldn’t have brutally murdered someone.

    • @joincoffee9383
      @joincoffee9383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      even if it’s a sleep walking, they should still be sentenced to life. They killed people. Period.

    • @scottcampbell7944
      @scottcampbell7944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joincoffee9383 Right you are! One of the reasons for prison is to take a dangerous person out of circulation. If they are a proven killer, awake or asleep, put them away.

    • @digitalspecter
      @digitalspecter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joincoffee9383 I don't think it's quite so cut and dry. It depends on the situation and the likelihood they're going to pose a danger in the future..

  • @user-sh6sv1ed8p
    @user-sh6sv1ed8p 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well stated as always, Dr. Grande! Excellent analysis!

  • @f.4588
    @f.4588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great analysis. Thanks Dr. G

  • @FlatWorld_Jomhuri_Regime
    @FlatWorld_Jomhuri_Regime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent video as always. Can you do a video on Mary "Lee" Orsini?
    Happy New Years!! 🥳🥳

  • @annika_panicka
    @annika_panicka ปีที่แล้ว +1

    _"I might be asleep right now."_
    This caused me not only to Llol (Literally lol), but I also almost choked on an apple. The faint smile caught me off guard.

  • @bamaqueen2086
    @bamaqueen2086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I once walked into the den and had a conversation with my brother. I was sleep walking and talking and have no memory of that night.

  • @karyannfontaine8757
    @karyannfontaine8757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I agree with you, Dr. Grande. He was guilty and grasping at some sort of defence. He was easily addicted to substances as was his father with drink. Have a Happy New Year to All.

    • @jguenther3049
      @jguenther3049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      All guilty people with no defense claim they were sleepwalking. Randy Herman claims he was sleepwalking, therefore he has no defense and is guilty.
      All fire trucks are red. My Ford is red. Therefore, my Ford is a fire truck.

  • @uralbob1
    @uralbob1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great episode! Thank you.

  • @zenawarrior7442
    @zenawarrior7442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another strange & horrific case. Young folks make many mistakes and add drugs even worse. Happy New Year all and Dr G tho sure you'll post again tomorrow 😊💛💛

  • @maddy8018
    @maddy8018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm hooked on this Dr. channel. Great content. Thank you

  • @bohemianscrapgirl
    @bohemianscrapgirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I might be asleep while listening to you! Thank you Dr. Grande, very informative video.

  • @estelle9414
    @estelle9414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Love your analysis, Dr. Grande. This is a rare case, however, that I do not agree with the analysis in its entirety. Sleepwalking, definitely not. I have worked with alcoholics for decades, and I had a thought. Alcoholics who are chronic and using huge amounts of substance have alcoholic blackouts. They are neurological in nature and the memory of what the person does is permanently impaired during a blackout. They appear to be awake and in awareness, but they are not. I worked with a person in a prison who was there for murder. He did it, for sure. He did not have memory of the actual incident, only before and after. He believed he did it because he remembered the location, went into this altered blackout state, and then, as he described, "woke up" to realize he had done something very bad. Another case. A young woman who I helped killed someone in a vehicular manslaughter case. She, also did not remember the actual accident itself, but knew after when authorities found her, she had been driving, she did not pass out, she "woke up" after the incident and knew she had caused the accident. She went to jail, and she did not deny the action based on all the evidence leading up to the accident, and then the obvious result. Another case. A man was driving and was going somewhere where he knew. He "woke up" while driving and was about to run over a family member. He had no memory of how he got there, just that he was driving and then after the near death of the family member, he said he couldn't remember how or why he almost ran over the family member. He had not passed out and was mystified why he would want to run over his closest brother. One final case. A man "woke up" to driving around a parking lot in another town he did not remember going to for any logical, rational reason. He "woke up" driving in the parking lot wondering where he was and how he got there. All these chronic, high alcohol consumers for many years developed these blackouts where they were able to drive, walk, talk and take a bus. They weren't stumbling around, passing out, sleeping, hallucinating or planning anything. Their brain, due to the extended, profound, excessive use of the substance alcohol, went into altered neurological states. A number of chronic alcohol users have experienced and documented this phenomenon while others never experience it ever in their chronic alcohol use history. It is NOT sleepwalking. It is not dreaming. After, they were told what happened, they did not deny these incidents because it was proven clearly what they did. They believed those who reported this to them. They simply couldn't remember anything about the incident, and never regained any memory of it even years later. These people accepted responsibility for their tragic actions or mystifying experiences. They experienced a permanent loss of memory. Maybe, this man, while certainly guilty, had a similar occurence with an alcoholic blackout. I think it's worth considering. It doesn't mitigate responsibility or reduce sentencing for the crime but could explain no memory of the event.

    • @mikebond6328
      @mikebond6328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I gave up drinking many years ago because I got tired of apologizing for doing and saying things of which I had no memory.

    • @itsjeninMass
      @itsjeninMass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My ex was a blackout drinker, too. Luckily, he never drove anywhere or harmed anyone, but it was still really creepy.

    • @lindas5964
      @lindas5964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes I thought the same thing. Blackout. When you are functioning in what appears to be an awake state but later absolutely no memory of the event as others relate it to you. I have not drank any alcohol for 30 years due to my experience with this. Terrifying.

    • @audralynn7454
      @audralynn7454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I do agree with the fact some people have been shown to have this issue. But, as you stated, this is after years of heavy, chronic use. Not a person using heavily for three months and then being sober for two weeks. Unfortunately for him, it seems that jealousy, sexual desire and rage were the main contributing factors in this case.

    • @Gitn2it
      @Gitn2it 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Anyone who drinks to the point of having a blackout, is totally responsible for their actions even if they can't remember them. An alcohol-impaired person is usually a danger to themselves and others, especially if they get behind the wheel of a car.

  • @sdsurfgirl60
    @sdsurfgirl60 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can do seriously complex things in my sleep. I know it's hard to believe but some people can leave the state without crashing the car, speak to people, shop, and so much more.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is really a bit terrifying! What if extra ability is needed to avoid an accident?

    • @sdsurfgirl60
      @sdsurfgirl60 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bthomson I really don't know. I am currently working on a rug that vibrates and sounds a loud alarm when I step out of bed. I hope it will work.

  • @jpc3603
    @jpc3603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Dr Grande! It's really interesting what you say: if she had lived, there would be absolutely no question in anyone's mind about his guilt and the sleep walking defence would never have stood. I feel this is the same when perpetrators who murder are described as "loners" having "histories of depression" etc; when the victim is able to have a voice, it's harder to build a narrative of sympathy around violent perpetrators.

    • @jguenther3049
      @jguenther3049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "If she had lived . . ." is a contrafactual conditional, and has no standing in logic. Everything following it can be taken as either true OR false. It's a lot like Schroedinger's cat.

  • @melindadurchholz3738
    @melindadurchholz3738 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, thanks for the intricate analysis of this awful murder. You always have so many details that are never in the news or docs. Thanks for being an excellent detective. So sorry for the poor girl.

  • @darrenroberts637
    @darrenroberts637 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow great job again… love ur conclusion

  • @kelliegillespie8531
    @kelliegillespie8531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for posting a most interesting case. I have so missed you Dr. Grande. I have been so busy with my son. He is the 24 year old who sustained a TBI On Aug. 5th 2021. I am looking forward to watching ALL the content I have missed. Happy New Year Dr. Grande!!!

    • @rejaneoliveira5019
      @rejaneoliveira5019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am sorry to hear about your son. I wish him the best.🌹

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kellie - When one's child is hurt it is so very difficult! Tell him that perfect strangers are wishing him well! 😍😘🤕😻

    • @kelliegillespie8531
      @kelliegillespie8531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rejaneoliveira5019 Thank you. I appreciate your comment. 💝

    • @kelliegillespie8531
      @kelliegillespie8531 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bthomson Thank you. I appreciate the good wishes. I will certainly tell him. Thank you

  • @dginc.4582
    @dginc.4582 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great analysis Dr. Grande! :)

  • @maddieb5787
    @maddieb5787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sounds like if anything he was blackout drunk.

  • @KJ-cs4ow
    @KJ-cs4ow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for slamming Dead Asleep. I am a true crime buff, my parents put it on thinking I’d like it, but my stomach turned almost immediately. Seeing the scratch marks on his body I knew he had to be guilty, no way anyone could sleep through someone fighting for their life. I had to leave the room to keep from arguing with the TV, and my dad filled me in later affirming my instincts were correct.
    I don’t know why make a documentary when his defense was so flimsy, and the evidence was so damning - it’s not even a good story 🤷🏼‍♀️ and major ick to all the “but he doesnt look like a killer” rhetoric 🙄 cowards who get the jump on the victim (or those under the influence, which I suspect he was) don’t need bulky muscles to commit such violence, and every true crime buff knows killers don’t have a physical “type”

    • @KatieBellino
      @KatieBellino 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      His defense really went down a rabbit hole. I think the jury would have more quickly bought that it was voluntary manslaughter and not 1st degree murder. They could have argued that he was very drunk and they were fighting because he made a move on her, and in his drunken hurt, he murdered her in the heat of passion. Yes, he would do SOME time, but not life.

  • @thinkingmoment
    @thinkingmoment 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is, beside, Keith Raniere, one of your best analysis.
    Thank you, Dr. Grande.

  • @davidanderson9664
    @davidanderson9664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always enjoy your show - your expertise, narration and production values make for one of my favorites.
    D.A. (BA - psych, J.D.) NYC

  • @kelliearnold8498
    @kelliearnold8498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow It’s really sad. Substances Never lead to anything good!!!! Amazing job Doc!!!!!!

  • @natalieknabb7417
    @natalieknabb7417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Epic analysis

  • @NieceyWeesey
    @NieceyWeesey 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dr Grande you are a phenomenal writer!