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- Who is the person in the Blue Cloak, what legacy do their words leave on the main antagonist of the previous saga, and what does this all mean for Subject X? Let's have a chat about the chronological beginning of Kingdom Heart's Dark Road's story. Part 2, covering the main story is coming soon.
When I started writing the script for the Dark Road explanation video I felt like there were some parts that I really wanted to dive into, with this Post Credits scene being one of the big ones. So I'll be doing at least one more video explaining the main story of Dark Road in this similar style.
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Pete has no issue traveling through the dark corridors. Pete the true child of destiny?
@@d.saunders2506 Just then, Pete remembered what an old friend told him 10 years ago. A heart unburdened by bunk can travel through the dark corridors and become the master of light.
Sora's ability to connect with others was also seen in Arendelle when Anna's heart was struck by Elsa's magic; Sora grabs his heart.
Yeah I was replaying 3 and I noticed that myself
That is also where they first drop the concept that it isn't about Light and Darkness but about Beliefs. If Elsa believes her magic is Light, it is Light. If Elsa believes her magic is Darkness, it is Darkness.
Larxene also keeps pushing Sora away from Elsa because she knows his heart connection thing will affect the outcome.
And In Re-Mind, with Aqua
I can safely say Sora is the Child of Destiny and Nomura was super clever for tricking us into thinking we were Xehanort for over a year
The term Child of destiny was only said in this updste what you talking about for a year 🤣
@@AL-nv4gk they mean at the end of UX when the game made us think that our heart melted into Xehanort's
I think assuming there is only one child of destiny seems almost wrong. I believe xehanort and sora are both a half to make up the "child of destiny". The player wasn't wrong he became a master of light. Xehanort is what pushed sora to do what he's done without xehanort sora may have never left the islands. Xehanort gave him life lessons more or less. Then the first time a bequeathing of the keyblade happened to sora was xehanort with the x-blade. Without the other darkness would have prevailed.
@@tbenigma4817 xehanort is the key component in the success of making it past the keyblade war.
Xehanort is the scape goat. Similar to Ardyn in ff15 who was put on his path on purpose because his purpose was to put the world into ruin so the true king would appear. In the case of kingdom hearts sora is the true king
@@IiI_Gogeta_IiI idk part of sora and xehanort sharing a lot of similarities that make them special just makes it feel like they are both 50 percent responsible for light prevailing so to say one is destined while the other isn't feels wrong. I won't argue though since there's more saying I'm wrong then right though I would argue in calling xehanort a scapegoat. I don't personally believe xehanort followed everything just as the master wanted because he had some control. With such a focus on things destined to happen no matter what you do it feels like they are going to anyone can change there own destiny special or not
It's been fun how more and more comes out about Ven. Like, at the start we are to assume Xehanort messed up some kid who wanted to be his student, now we learn Xehanort actually had dreams about him hanging out with Blue Coat. 🤔
The thing that was big for me was that I always just kind of assumed that Xehanort just kind of found Ventus and “sensed the powerful darkness in him,” but this confirmed that he was specifically told by the mirror where and what he was.
Wait.. how is Ven tied to this at all?
Was Ven in KHDR!? wtf!?
@@ZeranZeran Lol, don’t worry, he’s only in flash forwards
I'm more partial to the name [P L A Y E R]
@@pyrojack8230 I named my player Luxu without knowing the ending, lmao.
I'm not convinced Xehanort was speaking of Eraqus when he told Sora that he reminded him of an old friend. Could it be that Sora reminds him of his caretaker/the player, instead?
But Eraqus has a similar philosophy/ outlook as Sora so really it's not far fetched to think it was Eraqus
@@IiI_Gogeta_IiI nah, Sora doesn't share Eraqus's philosophy of "Purge All Darkness!" - best example would be during KH2 where he stands side by side with Riku and Mickey saying to Xemnas's face "Darkness is not bad. Those who hide in it with bad intentions are!" - so basically Sora follows philosophy of Balance (like Xehanort actually does too).
I think Xehanort indeed was comparing Sora to someone... Either Eraqus but primarily his sense of justice and stubborness... Or perhaps he was talking about Baldr who had Heart as open as Sora... Basically most likely Xehanort meant to say that Sora reminds him of the best he saw in one of his friends.
Do you not turn around or acknowlegde a "friend" as you says death 🤦😂😂
@@AL-nv4gk if you are Xehanort? A ruthless pragmatist Xehanort? The guy who had same Empathy ability like Baldr - who kept his Heart open and got corrupted - and made proper conclusions about need to get it under control and as a result mastered it so well he gained ability to shut off his Empathy to avoid ending up like Baldr?
When Xehanort is on the mission - he keeps all his emotions in check for the sake of maximum effeciency appearing seemingly lacking any empathy... And we rarely see Old Master Xehanort not like that... But not "never"... Xehanort did bring Ventus to peacufully expire on Destiny Islands once he deemed he can do nothing else to further his plans with Ventus at the moment. He also did programm into Kairi an "exception" for her to be able to abandon her search if she ends up in Unreality. In both cases he had zero reasons to do so and it was basically a waste of time... But once something is outside of being use for his PLAN - he does show Empathy... Usually when there are no witnessess around.
TL:DR - Basically what I mean to point out we see Xehanort offing Eraqus while in "ON THE MISSION" mode - he has no time to show remorse and can do so due to perfect mastery over his Empathy perk. But we never can be sure how Xehanort acted once he left Land of Departure and had no one to witness him getting to terms with what he did.
@@Ghostel3591 I'm not sure I could agree with your example of Kairi... I mean, if you were a computer coder for instance, and made a program for a specific function, but then afterwards determined that the goal of the program was not achievable, then you would want that program to shut down so that it doesn't cause a load of unintended consequences or tampering with things that are already working as you want them to. I can't help but feel that Kairi's exception was just included for efficiency's sake, or as a means of "purging" unnecessary/unwanted code from running where it shouldn't/can't. As for Ventus...I'm still trying to wrap my head around exactly what Xehanort was thinking in all of that, but I'm definitely not getting empathy vibes from someone who wastes another person (for whatever reason) and then dumps them off in the middle of nowhere like useless trash.... just my honest opinion...
great video as always! Your content is perfect to get post story drops clarity so thank you for all your work & dedication!
Thanks Buns! Talking about Kingdom Hearts is easily one of my favourite things to do, so I'm glad people seem to enjoy hearing me blabber on about it hahaha. Lemme know if you ever wanna chat lore sometime!
Love your vids weird to see you here
I think who the child of destiny is remains up in the air. I think your explanation here about how it's a kind of sendoff works very well. But it's equally likely that this is being brought up now because it's going to majorly factor in to the Lost Master arc. And in that case, I don't think they would make the exact answer so clear cut and obvious. I can absolutely see KH4 and beyond playing with the idea of a destined hero, and whether or not Sora actually is that (or if there's something more to it than we currently know).
The book says the child of destiny will be a vessel of darkness. So hes either gonna sacrifice himself like the master, or Xehanort was the child.
Xehanort was the singularity in that he was the only person who could, and did both summon the pure X-blade and bequeath it.
What is super interesting is the scene cuts away which is common within books and movies to subvert expectations. There is no need to name drop Ephemer if they commonly call him grandfather or great great great grandfather. That isn't to say it must be subversion of expectations, but Nomura understands enough about cinematography to understand that impact. Its even more suspect since he did it at the end of Union X.
Ephemer being name dropped was more for the players than anything else.
@@Nerwrax15 Maybe. But Nomura pulled the same trick at the end of Union X. People have a strong believe Ephemer is his great great great grandfather. Without voice acting, can we even say its the same person? I ask this because Riku has a lot of the same features as Xehanort.
But this could be anyone who questioned [Player] was incarnated into Xehanort got shouted down because of how obvious it was. I'm just saying, we should have a more open mind.
@@KewlImp its not quite the same trick, we were never explicitly told the Player became Xehanort, Nomura may have intended us to think that as a red herring, but the Robed Figure is there the entire time as well when its mentioned the Players heart will melt into a new one.
In Dark Roads case everything is laid out and more concrete:
Xehanort has dreams
Blue Robe confirms those Dreams are actually their memories
Blue Robe being Player can hard confirm that Xehanort is descended from Ephemer and that Ephemer was their friend. And of course the text(as well as the ending) ends the very moment Blue Robe passes away.
@@Nerwrax15 But [Player] also says they have only lived two lives. So everything about his lineage is implied. Whoever passed Xehanort off to them may have said that or it was assumed given the platinum hair within would be either super uncommon or down right rare. They also describe the Child of Destiny who is much more heavily resembling Sora than Xehanort. Once we get Dark Link, we may see the scene where it confirms his lineage, but at this point we only have one person to confirm it.
But for me, its the cut away and the usage of Ephemer's name only while it was cut away showing something else. Its just too well put together not to be a coincidence and like so many of KH people say, there are no coincidences.
@@KewlImp master Oogway: there are no accidents 😜
The Skuld situation does have me extremely curious. Especially because the story EXPLICITLY pointed out the similarity in appearance between herself and Xehanort's mother. We're defo missing a giant piece of the puzzle that would answer all of our questions. I'd like to believe we'll see her in Scala but it just feels weird they didn't show her surviving in the Union X ending, only Ephemer. And its even more damning since Subject X fits Skuld's character so well, especially with them assigning her a specific age, which is another reason I don't think its Ava. But then she didn't role up to the reunion of the masters and he didn't seem surprised. Godammit I'm gonna have to comb through the wikis for more lore
Sora, the true child of destiny
No he's not he's just kid with keyblade
Something else that I think also goes against Skuld being Project X is the fact is that the secret reports said that X had four friends. Yet in Dark Road, Skuld had five: Ephemera, Lauriam, Player, Brain and Ventus.
I personally think it’s Ava since the next arc is titled “The Lost Master Arc” which just screams Foretellers and MoM. But also would give a reason for Lea&Isa along with Kairi and the others to get involved. As they may try to save Ava from being sacrificed as a vessel for Darkness.
would Ava consider MoM and Luxu as a friend? I dont remember their relationship was good or bad but that is also another thing makes holes for Ava.
Total old masters make 7
Union leaders make 6
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That’s a fair argument, however my counter to that is MoM could be seen as father figure to the Foretellers, much like how Eraqus was seen to the Wayfinder trio. Meanwhile with Luxu, it is hard to say what their relationship was because they could’ve been friends, but then enemies after their clash in UX.
But even then, I think you could still link up the “Four friends” being the four other Foretellers besides Ava.
@@dexholderred2469 “Four friends”, FOURtellers?
@@dexholderred2469 that and if I recall luxu is never actively with the foretellers. He's usually away so there wouldn't be much reason for them to bond. Specially when the traitor thing comes up, nobody ever brings up luxu. Either they trust him that much, or weren't aware of his existence till later on.
I kinda hate the thought that Sora is the Child of Destiny unless it turns out that the Child of Destiny is a self fulfilling prophecy. I don't want Sora to be the destined one to defeat the darkness because he was chosen to do so from the very start, I kinda just want him to be the Child of Destiny because he did what the Child of Destiny was supposed to do. Like the Chosen Undead in Dark Souls, you weren't "Chosen" you just did what the Chosen Undead was supposed to do, there were plenty of candidates to fulfill the role but you ended up doing it first and so the title was given to you. I want the same thing for Sora, like Xehanort, Riku, Kairi, or even Ventus had the ability to be the Child of Destiny but Sora ended up fulfilling the prophecy so he's the Child of Destiny. If Nomura really wants Sora to be "Just a normal kid" then make it a self fulfilling prophecy.
Completely agree with you. I felt like KH1 set things up so that it didn't matter what your origins were, you could achieve great things if you open your heart to others.
The Child of Destiny narrative undermines this point by making it so that Sora was special all along.
Granted, we've come a long way from KH1 but as someone who started KH when it came out, it feels like a misstep in storytelling imo.
Something that I think could be cool is that while Xehanort is the Singularity (due to his time travel?), Sora could be some "anomaly" that came into existence as a result. I kinda like that karmic vibe, especially since we now know that there are consequences for performing a taboo of nature, like with Sora disappearing in KH3. Perhaps there were many such anomalies and Sora is just one of them who happens to fulfill the Chosen One description, where the others fell to darkness. I think I'm just ripping off the Matrix here though lol.
At the end I guess prophecy stuff always needs a twist to be interesting; maybe Sora isn't the chosen one just so that there can be a twist later.
Yeah like the Neverarine in TES 3 exact same thier are many chosen to do a set task, but the real chosen one is the one who accomplishes it.
The idea of the child of destiny comes from the book of prophecies which MoM wrote by observing the events of the future. So even if it is Sora- which I don’t think it necessarily is- it’s not that he was “chosen” by destiny it’s just that his choices were written down in the book of prophecies.
NOMURA has confirmed that Riku was the child of Destiny. It was due to his affliction by Darkness that Sora rose to the occasion.
@@arrownaut6820 source?
Im gonna go with Kairi being the child of destiny just cuz its not popular. If Xeha can be it even though he comes from a different world then so can Kairi. And her child of destiny memory powers are so powerful that even her nobody has them…
I think both Riku and Sora are the Child of Destiny. After all, they both are born on Destiny Islands, both are chosen to be dark vessels, and both have being One. (Riku in Sora's dreams and diving into his Heart).
Xehanort's role is to set up Sora and Riku to undone the Timeline when Darkness wins. Nomura refers to that as the "singularity", Sora performing the Power of Waking incorrectly. And Sora did that because of the Thing Riku told him before he self-sacrificed . So Xehanort causes the Singularity by being the "villains" to Sora and Riku.
It's very possible, I originally mentioned Riku and Kairi in my script as well, but I thought the point about this ending mirroring Blank Points came across better
Doubt it Sora is the only relevant character now according to Nomura other characters are irrelavent going forward as evidenced by their lack of relevance/impact in the last game .
@@AL-nv4gk well we know riku will also be in quadrantum, so he's not that out of the game
I think Riku is the child of destiny and Sora is something even greater, a being that the book of prophecies did not foresee
@@millionshadesofdarkness2165 It would make no sense for it not to see him since the BoP isn't just some vague prophesies, it is MoM's writings on what he's seen in the future using his eye as a medium. The Eye on Master Xehanort's Keyblade. That he uses to fight Sora and such. The only vague thing in the BoP is the writing because MoM wanted to manipulate people who read it in a certain way.
I don't think it's very likely, but I wonder if Player continues to reincarnate and eventually becomes Sora. I feel like this maybe isn't the case because they made sure to keep Blue Robe's face hidden to imply they're the Player and they would maybe do this every time Player reincarnates. Or maybe they're hiding the face because Blue Robe is the Missing Link avatar and covering their face isn't necessary for other reincarnations.
I always assumed that Xehanort's "You remind me of an old friend" line referred to Eraqus, and it still probably does. But now that we know Xehanort can connect to the memories of others, that line could be referring to Ephemer or even Player. And if it's Player, then maybe they did reincarnate as Sora.
Also I really like Young Xehanort's line that you point out. It's a nice thought that YX realizes he's not the child of destiny and tries to direct Sora. But then his line when you defeat him in the keyblade graveyard seems to maybe contradict that.
Nomura did say that after Dark Road the Player once again (Blue Coat) melted into another heart a second time. So we may end up seeing the player character again in the future games.
The Blue robe character wont show his/her face because it us the main character that we create and im sure at the last time he/she will be reincarnated were going to our face that the character we created and he will merge and become Sora.
The player is sora cause we play as sora but sora doesnt remember being the player. Now that would be wild
So, whild theory, but something tells me that one of the player character's incarnations could be Terra. The only thing that makes me think this is the fact that Ansem SoD calls the dark figure that fights with him (Terra) his guardian, which could be a reference to the blue hood guy. A huge stretch, I know, but this is Kingdom Hearts, a series where minute details always turn into huge twists like this so... idk. Thoughts?
The book says the child of destiny will be a vessel of darkness. So either Sora will become a sacrifice like the Master, or the child of destiny IS xehanort. If he is the singularity, he was the only one able to summon the X-blade and then bequeath it.
Can't wait for part 2 of this series. Really enjoyed this explainer!
Four years ago, around the time when the 0.2 medals came out in KHUX, I had found your channel and followed your guides as best as I could. Watched and heard your weird but often times on the nose theories of future events to come.
Here I hear just a taste of whats in store once KHML comes out. Honestly? I'm excited; to hear your thoughts on what happened during the bygone era and to see your eventual f2p guides. My only hope is that you get the opportunity to partake in the closed beta for ML 👍
I just realized that somehow Xehanort & Anakin are like the same, told at a young age that they'd save the world from the vilain but inevitably becomes the evil
I think we need to know where this info about the child of destiny comes from. If it is in the Book of Prophecy we should be extremely careful. Why? Because we know that what is written there is not what will really happen and that the Mom knows that darkness was peeking at the Book. So the Mom intentionally wrote the Book with mistakes in order to deceive darkness. Another thing we know is written in the book is that Ventus is regarded as the “chosen one” (it was etched - darkness says). And then Xehanort adds in the corridor of darkness that the chosen one is the one supposed to be a dark vessel. This fits Ventus more than anything to be honest. And knowing how Sora and Ventus are connected, being Sora his second chance is something we should not forget.
If we stick to the description of the child of destiny we have solely from Player however, in my opinion the description of the child of destiny fits Sora way more than Xehanort. As much as people dislike that Sora would be then regarded as a special one, I dislike the idea that Xehanort should be excused for all he did just because he started with good intentions. In life what is important is not only your intention but what you actually DO. And we see till the very end of KH3 how reluctant was Xehanort to pass down his “ role”. He believed he could reset the world by making darkness prevail because “light was born from darkness”. But if the plan of Xehanort would succeed then there would be no world now. Instead Sora was the one to rewrite destiny, to sacrifice himself to save his friends. No other has done what Sora WILLINGLY did and for this reason he deserves to be recognized. Without Sora nothing could have been done. Mickey and Riku were not even able to save Aqua by themselves.
As far as I agree that other characters should be acknowledged more in the game and not everything should be accomplished by Sora alone, it is pointless to keep on saying he is no special. Nobody is born special, by blood line for example. But what you DO in life CAN make you special. Sora’s choices not driven by the knowledge of a old prophecy or by his ancient blood line, his actions alone, his compassion and generosity made him the special hero we should all love. And by keeping on saying that he is ordinary even now after all he did without asking anything in return is a big problem that many in life have to deal with. I think that a prophecy of a Child of Destiny does not imply that someone is born like this. The difference is WHO WILL BECOME that child by his actions.
Anyway my true hope is that Ventus will be the one. He has been such an important character but we still know so little about him. And him being a pure light who still harbors a big darkness despite Vanitas being extracted by his heart makes him such an interesting character to be explored further. At the end of KH3 he starts remembering the old days. Let’s hope he gets a more important role in the future.
It's been two years, do you still plan on making "The Full Story of Dark Road Explained" for the rest of the episodes?
When will we get part 2? And thank you for the explanations thus far.
Thank you for the video! :3 I was confused at first but this video helps me understanding again.
Awwww look at baby xehanort yawning! He's so dam cute!
I'm still certain that Skuld (AKA Subject X) is the same girl that Lea and Isa had befriended back in the two's childhood, and were apprenticed to Ansem the Wise to supposedly help her, but they failed, because she was gone. Luxu (AKA Xigbar) is most likely the one who bailed her out (the man in the eyepatch, as he's described). So Ansem the Wise was right when he said he didn't do anything to Subject X. He most likely doesn't even remember her that much now (one, because it had been a long time, and two, because he was hellbent on revenge). I don't think it's Master Ava. Sure, we didn't see her in the Keyblade War, so it's likely she wasn't involved in said battle, but Luxu had previously explained his role before all of that started, and the two did clash a bit, but nobody knows what happened to her after recruiting the Dandelions. Luxu said that she had carried out her mission, but that's all we've got regarding her fate, so Skuld being Subject X seems to make the most sense. Plus, there's no mention of Ava's fox mask in the secret reports in KH3, so that makes the theory of it being her even more unlikely. We don't see any of the Foretellers' faces behind their Union masks, anyway. Same for the Master, and we STILL don't even know his name (Nomura, you tease). Luxu had to give up his old form and has been through different semblances since then (including Bagi in Dark Road (at some point, anyway)), Xigbar being his current one.
My guess is that Xehanort is a descendant of Ephemer and Ava. Nomura said in an interview that Xehanort's mom isn't Skuld, but that the resemblance will eventually be explained. I think it's likely that during Missing Link, we are going to eventually meet a character that at first is implied to be Skuld, but later is revealed to be Ava who just happens to look just like Skuld for some reason or another. Who knows, maybe our character in Missing Link will be a descendent of Ephemer, and there will actually be a romance between them and Ava - making Xehanort our grandson from our second life. Skuld is just too good a candidate for Subject X for them to backline her as an ancestor to Xehanort.
If they did though, I think the best option for Subject X would actually be one of the upper classmen from Dark Road. There were four of them that were dead at the River Styx, and they all said "May your heart be your guiding key" before disappearing. It's possible that one of them tried to pass on (probably Hoder) and got caught in the future in some cloning experiment in Ansem's lab instead; coming alive and befriending Lea and Isa before the clone starts disintegrating or something. When Terranort/Xemnas comes across Hoder's deteriorating clone body, he recognizes her as a friend because he literally went to school with her.
All that said, still think it's just Skuld - that'd be more satisfying as Hoder's arc feels closed already.
Great video. The issue, though, that I've been grappling with, is that-as you point out-"the one inscribed in the book" is also described as "the one chosen to be a dark vessel." Unless there's something about Sora we're not aware of, he doesn't match this description. Also worth remembering Luxu's KH3 secret reports, in which he refers to "the chosen one" as "a Keyblade Master devoted to the darkness," seemingly referring to the same "dark vessel" person. Near the end of DR, before the Bragi reveal, we learn that Luxu had originally believed Baldr to be this person; we know of course that it turns out to be Xehanort. Of course, the Child of Destiny and "the one chosen to be a dark vessel"/dark seeker/etc could be referring to 2 separate people, but I also find this hard to believe because a) they are both variously associated with the term "chosen one" or "the one chosen," and b) Master Xehanort remembers Player/Blue Coat themselves referring to the "one inscribed in the book"-presumably the Child of Destiny-as "the one chosen to be a dark vessel." I elaborate on some of these points in this thread: www.khinsider.com/forums/index.php?threads/spoiler-xehanort-is-the-child-of-destiny.236791/. But I won't deny Sora also fits many of the characteristics and is the one to change destiny, in the end, though arguably Xehanort was the one to set Sora up to accomplish this (remember Xigbar's line in KH3: "We gotta make sure you're not blundering your way toward a second failure"). Curious what you think, I'm struggling to square all this away
I think moreso that the Child of Destiny and the Dark Seeker are separate entities. Xehanort is important because as the MoM states, he’s the singularity and a pivotal person to lay the groundwork for the events that unfolded. Xehanort believes he’s the child of destiny because that was he was told, but if we go by what the Player said about the child of destiny, then Sora best matches the description. It’s in Xehanorts belief that because of what he was told and what he experience that he was the destined child when in reality he was the singularity that would give rise to the true child of destiny. I guess the best way I can explain it is that Xehanort is the chosen one in the context that he’s the one that will bring into fruition the true child of destiny, since even right after Sora was born, because he split Ven’s heart to two, Sora was able to connect with Ven and bring about every event that was to come. Maybe that’s what the MoM meant when he said he was the singularity. Of course, that’s my perspective and I think that it makes sense given everything we’ve witness so far.
I agree 100%. Probably, the chosen one idea was used to get Xeha to do exactly what he did.
When Luxu speaks of "The Chosen One", he is refering to his next vessel and/or the next wielder of No Name. He could not possibly have known about the child of destiny because he didn't recieve a Book of Prophecies and, as stated in this video, he can't take a look at one because that would create paradoxes (I didn't remember that, but it makes sense)
@@Sousw We have no idea what Luxu knows but youre right he cant read the book. He probably has at least heard of the child of destiny or the prophecy however.
Saved to watch for later, but I'll wait to watch your recap video of what's happened since last time first! :)
This was just such a wild ride...thank you for helping clarify it all.
Was the name Xehanort given to him to protect him and his real name? The hooded Player never mentions his name. What are names without the X for him?
Another or No Heart. But his name not being Xehanort would be one twist too many for me lol
@@Nerwrax15 oh your right I heard these before. Hmm as someone with origins from Ephemer I would not expect a name like "Xehanort" :D
So it is Another Key or No Heart Key. May your Heart be your guiding Key.
I think the exes are given out by xehanort so he knows your location at all times. If im remembering correctly. I assume its just because X is the first letter of his name. No heart/another are just red herrings - at least as far as we know!
In regards to the Child of Destiny thing, it's important to keep in mind that this info came from the Book of Prophecies, written by Master of Masters. Someone who is not only a huge schemer, but also quite the manipulator. It's still hard to say where the Master still stands morally, but he clearly has a personal agenda for everything he does, so I think it's very important to think critically about all the info we get from the book. The book was meant to be read by others, to guide them to act in certain ways. We have no reason to assume that all the info in the book is objective and good chunks of it may have been written for the explicit purpose of manipulating others to act in ways that benefit the Master's overall plans.
This is not to say that I think the 'Child of Destiny' thing is a total red herring (it does fit Sora perfectly) but rather that I'm not sure if Sora's role as one is as important as Player and the other people of Scala believe. Sora could simply be the one Master saw would rise up and stop Light from expiring, not out of fate but simply by being the one who does it. The Master could then use this info to embellish his prophecy a bit, to ensure that Player would raise Xehanort like he did, so that things would turn out like the Master hoped. So very much a self-fulfilling prophecy.
And just like we need to be critical of the info the Master gives us through the book, we should really consider all of the stuff he may have chosen to omit from it. A lot of people seem to regard the book as an objective source of knowledge, when it's anything but. (Not saying you are, just a trend I've noticed from the fanbase).
It is not unusual that Square game has more specific explanation for "prophecy". In FFVIII Squall is called destinied hero, but real reason simply is the timeloop where he has already killed the villainess and villainess travels back in time to start the loop. Xehanort is basically Ultimecia redux.
It is not unpropable that prophecy is just a scam and MoM has actually twisted future in certain sense.
I love that the best Kingdom Hearts reviewers are Australians and Kiwis
2 comments:
First, the tale about the child of destiny that comes from Destiny Islands is a prophecy in the same way that the Book of Prophecies itself is. By that, I mean that what the Gazing Eye sees is that a child from the Islands will be a savior and all that, and then MoM writes about it in the Book. It is not a magic prophecy done in the past that tries to predict the destiny of someone, it is actually something that had already happened in the future by the time of writing it. It is not that a super-hero child was destined to be raised in Destiny Islands, it's just the MoM describing from his perspective what Sora did. And then Player, Luxu-Bragi and maybe Odin thought that Xehanort was that child.
Secondly, since I first learned about Subject X I thought it was Ava, and more so after the final scene of KH3 where Xigbar calls the other masters. What I believe is that Xehanort knew that one of the 13 Darknesses was inside of her, and was trying to discover how to get it out and/or destroy it. Remember that all of his research was supposed to be about the darkness inside the heart. On a less relevant note, I associate the "May your heart be your guiding key" more with the 5 original fore-tellers, because they've actually seen MoM repeating it over and over, while I presume that the new 5 union leaders only heard the phrase a couple of times, at least compared to the first ones.
Thanks man. You do a fantastic job helping people who don't want to play a gacha game experience the story.
I feel as if xehanort closed his heart to his friend and open his heart to his journey. But with sora he open his heart open to his friends and found many journeys.
Thanks for the video!
Loved watching you play this live, and love your videos.
Thanks so much damo!
Was waiting dor this. Thankd
Your livestream was great! Loving it Damo!
Broooooooo. I said something about that line "Find the hearts joined to yours" before 3 released. That line has always stood out to me. I'm so glad you bring it up here.
Wdym before 3 released? That line was said in 3, no?
@@Kalernor It was in 3, but they showed it off in a trailer before the release of 3, is what I meant.
I think the "child of destiny" may be like the "child of prophecy" in Naruto, in Naruto Jirayai and Nagato believed Nagato was the CoP while turns out it was Naruto; so possibly the blue coat believes its Xehanort (who as the X and leads events to happen may be his destiny) but it's actually Sora
yeah i thought of that to. looks like nomura is a naruto fan i guess
@@naaaaaaah Either that or just a weird coincidence.
@@rileyduncan3927 i wouldn't consider that coincidence cuz literally most games/shonen anime does that plot twist
@@naaaaaaah True, but I personally don’t think Nomura was a fan of Naruto.
@@rileyduncan3927 are you nomura? If not then don't assume what he likes or not
What if Nomura is still trolling us...
...and Kairi is the child of destiny?
I believe Sora is truly the Child of Destiny, and I still think Skuld is Subject X.
Something toward Skuld being Subject X that wasn't mentioned was also that in Axel's entry in the Character Files, Subject X is confirmed to have "black"/"dark" hair.
Granted, we don't know Ava's hair color yet, but if it were the case that she was Subject X, since Chi is confirmed to have taken place over the course of two years (by Strelitzia), that means that two years before the KBW, when Player starts their journey, Ava would have to be 13 years old. She would be the youngest keyblade master in the entire series, and nothing is said of how much of a prodigy she would be.
Sure, they say she's the youngest foreteller, but nothing about how impressive it is for her, a would-be thirteen year old, to be a full fledged keyblade master able to solo a raid boss Darkside with the same ease as full adults Ira and Aced
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Is this a breakdown of all of the new Dark Road content that was released with the finale or is it just a breakdown of the secret ending?
i really, REALLY want subject X to be skuld. it's just as likely that it's ava, but i would vastly prefer if it was skuld. while we also don't know where ava is, skuld is the only person from the new foretellers group that we don't know what happened to. the 'skuld and ephemera got together and they're both xehanort's great great grandparents' theory bothers me as well, it'd be poor writing and frankly insulting to show what happens to everyone else but have her whole thing be handled entirely off-screen. if her and ephemera were in the same place at the same time, especially if they washed up together, they would have shown that
skuld being subject X would be perfect and tie things together nicely. it'd be really interesting too from a "she was so close yet so far away this whole time" perspective and opens up the possibility of actually getting to meet her in the present time as sora
What if Xehanort was Sora’s father? I only think of this because the “child of destiny” plan reminds me a lot of Star Wars with Luke and Anakin, even to the point of Annie thinking he was the chosen one but had to make way for the true chosen one, his son. 😮
Gotta wait for the full dark road explained vid before i can watch this, but i know itll be worth it
You have the most soothing voice. I could listen to you speak for hours. Great vid! Cheers!
Thank you for your service o7
Looking forward to another age of mobile coverage with missing link!
“I guess it wasn’t him after all...” Hmmm m...Awesome video!!
I always assumed subject x was Ava. I never heard the skald theory tho, to be fair
Xehanort was made to be a scapegoat if player remembers all of their previous life then they know what is written in the book of prophecies (if I remember correctly Player was shown or told of its contents no? I don't remember all of union x so I could be wrong) in which case Player purposely told Xehanort he is the child of destiny in order to put Xehanort on this path to ultimatly become the scape goat that would allow the book to be correct and bring the world past the keyblade war.
The interesting detail about xehanort being simply a scapegoat/pawn in a greater scheme is that Xehanorts final armor (is it classified as keyblade armor) is that of a goat. Nomura literally clad the scape goat in goat armor
Xehanort is literally Anakin Skywalker
Not sure if you saw the interview with Tetsuya. He pretty much says Sora is the Goku of Kingdom Hearts. Basically, it is the Sora show.
Maybe Subject X is someone that we know is still alive even after UX. Someone who has amnesia, but still remembers 4 specific people, dubbing them as "friends". Someone who was broken free and put into a pod [a device that can apparently travel to world neither of light nor darkness (at least I think the report said she was put in a pod)]. Maybe.......Subject X is Strelitzia. Luxu probably set her up so that in UX, the "True Dandelion" would end up around the time of BBS, and THEN send her to Quadratum. The 4 friends could be Player, her Chirithy, Elrena and Lauriam (again she has amnesia, she could mistake her brother as a friend). If not Strelitzia, then it has to be Skuld (if she isnt actually part of Xehanorts family tree) or some original character we never seen in UX(?).
I've also felt that Subject X is Strelitzia the white coat being data makes so much sense... Especially since she hasn't seemed to age but it's clear she's been in Quadratum longer than Sora has...
I was going to contribute to the theories but then Toddlernort walked on screen and all I could think was what a cute itty-bitty goat he was. And so innocent. And they had such a wholesome hug.
10/10 would raise the dark seeker again
Makes sense, seeing as ansem is the seeker of darken and thats part of Xehanort. Also its called the dark seeker saga with him being the protag
This was a very good summary of things that made it more clear for me thanks 👍 also with all that has happened I've been thinking of this theory over and over since KH remind that yozora is a form of the player after he goes to the final world after raising xehanort which could explain why he was chosen to save sora and tells him that this isn't his true form
Going by your theory about Yozora, I do think that the Player character went on to reincarnate as Yozora, or he's the heart that Yozora switched with.
Then either Luxord is Brain and Ephemer is Demyx, or Magia and Aegis are Brain & Ephemer.
“well it was-“ (insert ad here) 😢😢😢😢
When he said singularity, I likened it to how we consider the concept of singularity as the point where humanity and technology become irreversibly intertwined, when our nature changes by that union, where here, it's darkness and the keyblade wielder becoming a new type of being.
Can you clarify what the player was talking about at 11:27? If they both thought Xehanort was the Child of Destiny, why would they be discussing becoming a dark vessel?
This video was well worth the wait. Thanks for more quality content Damian and keep the theory crafting coming it's some of my favorite that i have personally seen.
Actually there is a quite specific line that says that the child of destiny mist be careful or else they'll be "contaminated" by darkness and deviate from their true purpose. What happened is that Xehanort was indeed the child of destiny, but he's role shifted after all that he's experienced and after MoM interference. So the role passed on, like the keyblade did and like the pure lights did, and moved down the list, and there he is, Sora, the next perfect person to fit the role.
Ok... Sora is either the future version of MOM, a descendant of MOM, the player reincarnated, or... Xeanorts 14th life, only chose a different path... Or... True light that took on a form
I'm among the people that never played Dark Road before. I started it right the moment the offline version was released, and I finished it yesterday. Today I had yor entire 6 hour stream of your reaction to the final chapters as background while I worked. And just at the moment I finished it, this video is uploaded. I mean, my heart must be connected to yours or something, what are the chances? Love your content!
Dear hecking god I went back to re-listen to Luxu's dialogue for trying to piece together what happened to Ava and realised we still have no idea what's in the damn box!
I always thought that subject X was Ava, not Skuld. Xehanort's mother looking a lot like Skuld makes that theory more plausible now.
Oh my god I think the idea of Skuld both being Subject X, then tossed to the past again to be Xehanort’s mother/other ancestor is BRILLIANT, and I need it immediately lmao.
I’m crossing fingers Missing Link will contain some Demyx and Luxord reveals. Not expecting much from Demyx (can’t believe they didn’t pull him in a game with “Melody” in the title…) beyond an Elrena-esque role, but I’m expecting big things from Luxord for sure. For the reasons.
Subject X could still be Skuld at any point if the bootstrap theory is at play here.
It could be that “Ansem” sent subject X back to her world line and the reason Xehanort exists is bc ASOD sent her back. Thus making things happen that’s already happened bc of that lol.
Idk tho
Subject X could be Staritzia, after all marluxia's body needed a waypoint, it's been said that he needed to hold on to the memory of her to be his way back, of course it's probably the data version tho, but that should be enough for it to help him come back(?) the real question here tho is, why did he need to have 13 copies, unless he intended to be the sole vessel for the darkness, until Sora proved that wrong with his anit-form/Rage form it's likely Sora is the player because of this, after all Sora has mentioned the very same stuff Xehornort said in the very beginning of the series, and the player has a strong resistance against the darkness thanks to the bangle(s) so it's possible that Sora was able to be the last darkness vessel, especially thanks to his "hurt" through out his adventures.
It maybe my own opinion on this part but I think Riku is ALSO the player as well, this is because of what the nightmare and spirit said during the war, what if there were two separate personalities in one person and one were turned to darkness, and with Riku's power over it and ability to do so much with it even after him coming back I personally see this theory has some merit to it, after all Sora and Riku are very powerful in their own rights but they are also two sides of the same coin, this may also align with why in kh3 that the darkside opening battle was not like any other we've experienced before, the reason is that Riku now is more light than darkness, but in turn Sora also turned more dark as well, giving into his rage and emotions because of what has happened.
Most likely skuld is subject x since if subject x was Ava the man In the eye patch aka Luxu would’ve recognized her Ava’s whereabouts is still unknown but for sure she returns since the 7 black chess pieces represent the foretellers and the 7 strongest darkness
Now the strange moment of Xehanort changing his mind immediately when confronted by Eraqus finally makes sense. In that moment he finally realized that he was not the child of destiny. Sora was (or at least seems to be).
i hope you do a full story explaination like you did the previous parts as well. really helpful for those like me who dont really do mobile games or gacha bs.
Working on it :)
@@damo yay!
I really truly hate that they stuck these stories into these mobile games. These really should have been full titles instead of relegated to some lame mobile fodder and then cutscene collection.
One thing I don't understand about the ending of Union X, how do they all time travel? It was stated multiple times that a body cannot travel through time and that a vessel/medium and a person with memories of you would be needed at the destination, yet they all arrive with their bodies intact.
Ven met his Chirity at the end of KH3. Will he remember his past life? That seems to be the function of Chirity
I belive that Sora isn't the Child of Destiny, but just an ordinary boy who was the right man at the wrong place.
Maybe Xenaroth is really the Child of Destiny but, just like Riku in KH1, went stray from his path, but he still has the title. Or maybe Xenaroth was indeed the Child of Destiny, but when he became the Dark Seeker the title of Child of Destiny went to Riku (after all, he was supposed to be the original choosen by the Keyblade).
But then, what about Sora? Well, I belive that Sora is the Singularity, the concept that the MoM mentions 2 times during Dark Road finale, one when he first encounters Xenaroth, and then at the very end, making clear that Xenaroth isn't this Singularity.
But why I belive this? Well the whole concept of the word Singularity is something out of the expected, a variable so specific that could only happend once. And I belive Sora enters that category, he was never meant to be the choosen one, nor his actions were described in the book of profecies, because the profecy was "Darkness prevail and Light will expire", but Sora did the oposite, maybe Sora is the Singularity the MoM needs to finaly break the never ending cycle of Light vs Darkness.
I need MOAR!
Ira is ansem
Aced xemes
Invy is aqua
Gula roxas
The final for teller is kairi
yissssss i would like to have one (1) understanding please. 🤲
Praying that sora is the child of destiny and not Master of Masters 😭😣❣️
Ooo its like schrodingers cat.
I think Ava has something to do with the child of prophecy claim. Sly fox 🦊
Is part 2 ever gonna come out, I have been waiting for a long time now :(
Love how all of this is coming together, I can't wait till we find out a little more about the Master of Masters. He never took the mark of mastery exam so he is legit someone we don't know at this point.
Luxu never takes the exam either 😱 😉
@@lightning9494 facts the two could be one in the same you never know.
So if Sora is the MoM who has time traveled in the past, and MoM has 1 of the darkness in him, than it still has him fits it. There still a few like Riku, Ventus, and still somewhat Xehanort that fits it, and possibly even those we don't realize yet
Damo, the vaati of kingdom hearts
Okay, I thought of something that has nothing to do with this video. What if MoM was handing out the crowns to the 7 lights? We didn't see any of the princesses of heart in the worlds we were able to visit, just heard of Princess Aurora. Jasmine shouldn't have been formed yet (maybe). We don't see Alice or Belle either.
Unless they were with others at the time? How do the crowns work
Hopefully we then reincarnate into the next create a character game we hopefully get. Unless next twist is SORA is the next reincarnation of the player!
Also I wonder if reincarnation means looking similar to your previous life's self. I put a lot of thought into ALL 6 costumes of my Union X avatar from start of story to the Unchained reset to the end. I wanna know if my character is supposed to have similar traits or if it would actually make less sense for them to resemble their past selves at all.
Watching my character- someone I created myself in 2016 when I was a teenager and grew up with into adulthood- die in real time was really emotional for me. Losing all my medals, all the time I spent guilting my medals, all the money I spent on re-rolls... all of it is gone now. All that's left are an echo of what once was and the memories I associate with it. I never imagined that some mobile gacha game would make me feel this way.
F*** gacha
Yea but why is Elrena missing from the dreams???
so the blue coat is US the PLAYER!
I beleave that sora is the child of destiny and that xehanort realised this and gave him the x blade to make his stronger as all xehanort wants is to destroy the true darkness and restore valence to the worlds
Blue cloak man is Brain? Or just me?
"This is not what was written" makes a lot more sense now
A few questions/comments:
- It is brought up but not explained why the Emblem Heartless are present during Dark Road.
- I thought at one point it was confirmed that exposure to darkness not only gives one yellow eyes and pointy ears but dark skin as well. I assumed this was why Xehanort’s skin was dark and he had yellow eyes, but he seemed to be born with both dark skin and yellow eyes. Does this hint that he was exposed to darkness before or around the time of his birth, or was that retconned somehow?
- When did the Foretellers trap six darknesses inside them?
- What happened to the darknesses that were trapped in the data world? How was Wreck-it Ralph a summon later on if the world is still asleep, or is it not asleep?
- Were the Keyblade wielders that became Dream Eaters from Daybreak Town or the data version? Are all of the current Dream Eaters these Keyblade wielders or just some of them? Did any of them become the Nightmare Dream Eaters, or were those the Heartless and/or other forms of darkness?
For the darknesses in foretellers bit, I think he mentioned in the Union Cross story video, that the amount of negative emotions the Foretellers felt and experienced after MoM left, along with the fact that Book of Prophecies mentioned a traitor, making everyone suspicious of one another, acted as bait for those 6 (Apologies if you're asking more when specifically they did, rather than just a rough timeframe)
Does Xehanort’s master’s skin change depending on the skin color of the play character in the Union X save file?