A Lurid Post-Mortem Of Anthem (The Jimquisition)
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Anthem. Oh, Anthem. BioWare's ill-fated attempt to jump aboard the "live service" bandwagon is yet another cautionary tale the "AAA" industry won't ever learn from.
With an obscenely troubled development, a handful of failed promises, and a legacy of embarrassing headlines, Anthem will go down in history, but not for the reasons BioWare hoped.
It certainly won't be spoke about with the same reverence as Bob Dylan... which is what BioWare actually expected.
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“Does Anthem have a future?” Sure it does! We’re taking it to a nice farm, where it’ll have a lot of room to run around and play!
*Ominous, metallic click can be heard behind developers back*
Come here old yeller(Anthem).
And EA gets to tend the microtransactions!
LMAO This is my favorite response. Thanks for the laugh, friend. :)
Along with the last 800 or so players still on anthem
“Is there a future for anthem?”
That aged like milk
I was like "hey this video is old isn't it? How long ago was Anthem released"
*checks date*
"Oh it doesn't age well at all does it"
Or dried out like old dog shit
like fresh dick milk
The future's bright... they hope.
Jim Sterling
Bright like the flames in a car crash.
"lets all laugh at an industry,
that never learns anything,
tee hee hee"
-yahtzee
Beat me to it.
I can totally hear it being said
Meanwhile EA laughs at a playerbase that never learns anything.
But why would they? They made all their money back in 3 months. I mean, do you think EA gives a fuck? Of course not. Look at ghost recon....huge seller. Totally crap.
Hydro Cannons, because time is a flat circle, it seems.
Bioware’s response being ‘we don’t like articles that aren’t praise’ is very telling of how games companies view games journalism
I remember that was one of the reasons BioWare shut down the BSN. Whoever decided to do that needs to be fired.
A post-mortem of a game less than a year old.
Welcome to AAA games, kids.
Games? You mean "live services"
Sarasaland Subserviant actually it’s pronounced “TrIpLe A” games
Don't worry they will sell the sequel/remaster/next year game with annual releases. It makes them more money and they barely have to do any programming for it.
@Locust Swarm Anthem may not be technically dead yet, but it's on life support at this point. Live services literally depend on an active user base to keep their servers on, and Anthem doesn't have much of a base left. EA may eventually pull the plug on the game, and unlike Square Enix, they aren't likely to rebuild it from scratch.
Guess failure is also a surprise mechanic.
"Supported for years to come!"
Couldn't even make it pass year 1.
RIP Anthem 2019-2019 😂👌
When did it officially die?
@@04musicgurl I think a month back or so? I remember them mentioning it's basically on maintenance mode now (which is "live service" talk for "dead")
So not even 10 months, let alone 10 years.
Oi, be fair, this game WILL be remembered for years to come -nod-
They didn't even prepare for this game, so HOW WERE THEY GOING TO SUPPORT IT? What a bunch of idiotic morons.
Bioware: "We want our game to be talked about for decades!"
Evil Genie: "Your wish is granted."
*finger on the monkeys paw curls*
Infamy and fame are the same right?
@Jimmy That's the point. It'll be talked about for a really long time _as a huge failure._ As a prime example of the failings of the Live Service model. Quite possibly as the biggest failure and downfall of a once beloved game studio.
@Mi Ke I still have a sliver of hope DA4 will be good, or at least okay. A tiny, very breakable sliver...
Technically.. just a regular genie because genies (besides Aladdins) are meant to turn your wish on it’s head and twist them on itself.
I still can't see Anthem without thinking: "They killed Mass Effect for this?"
Andromeda was the best mass effect overall, amazing visuals, nice history, lots of potential
Me too. Exactly this.
@Tattle Boad An overrated game isn't equal to a bad game. The latest Doom was an overrated game, but it was still really damn good. FIrst two Mass Effect games were still great in terms of gameplay and storytelling, same thing with the first Dragon Age.
Mass effect died long before, whit the ME3 ending.
@Tattle Boad dragon age origins and the first mass effect games were great and that's obviously subjective and they are flawed.But trying to downplay how EA and themselves to some degree fucked them is missing the point entirely
Anthem is a 2019 game. Sometimes I forget.
I've forgotten more than once, and when the lists for the worst games of the year roll up, I will have forgotten again.
It's so fucked up. I'm really happy I didn't buy it..
A few times when people bring up Anthem it actually makes my brain skip a beat and wonder what year I'm in as I thought it came out last year.
Making me question "Wait, is it really year 2018? Oh crap... it DID come out this year?"
It's definitely in the running for Yahtzee's Blandest Game Award.
"Anthem: so shit, players want the bugs put back in!"
As a developer that made me chuckle in all the best ways lol
Such a cute aye-aye
Fallout 76: bruh
Which idiot's bought this game? Own up, so I can shame you.
@@grubbybum3614 I did I wanted to see it for myself but I have a lot of money to waste so I knew I wasted it :)
Oh god, this bug made it fun... Go back! Must go back!
You know Jim Sterling is genuine and dedicated when he makes absolutely sure that every time "live service" is uttered, he says it in *that* voice.
It's fucking annoying tho, lol.
@@tommiknuutila6751 how do you delete someone else's comment
@@diegocandelaria7871 Lmao
He's had such a dedication to it I wonder if he can even utter that phrase in his normal voice anymore.
I think it's more that he wouldn't ever be able to bear even speaking it in a normal tone, so he chose a consistent silly one. Tends to happen.
So who's here after Jim was totally vindicated in regards to this games '10 years of support' ending after barely 2 years?
I am
This aged well btw
@@SoberHighDrunk Indeed it has.
Bioware: This is a beginning of a 10 year journey for us
EA: Yeah through unemployment.
I think they meant to say 10 month journey
@@chillhour6155 more like 7 lol. After the cataclysm flopped the game was officially dead.
Ooff damn that stings
i think is kinda unrealistic that a game with live service can survive for 10 years, even most popular MMORPG can't survive that long.
@@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082 destiny has made it to 5 and it's bigger than ever these days. it's possible put the market is getting really crowded and when other franchises have been doing this kind of thing for a lot longer than you... its a tough market to break into.
I love how that infamous reddit post of EA's actually got into the Guinness World Records
"We wanna take on contemporary stories."
Literally WHAT does that actually mean?
Um...stories that people live...everyday?
Ah yea cos Anthem is so grounded in the mundanes of modern life...
It's corporate speak for "we want to make the things that we think are popular at the moment in a style that is popular at the moment, because we believe that trying to keep up with the Joneses is the way to make money."
well, if we break it down, it means....nothing.
contemporary is a word that only has meaning in relation to something else. for example, you and i are contemporaries, because we live at the same time and can interact. saying "i want to tell a contemporary story" is essentially you saying "i want to tell a story that occurs at a time". thanks, mate, so do we all.
I think it means conventional stories?
Not even a year and the Live Service is dead.
Call that a dead service
Undead service?
The EA way
to quote George Carlin:
"Good! Fuck 'em!!"
Good.
Anthem came out in February of 2019, I can't tell if that means the release was so insignificant or if 2019 has been a long year
This comment gives me a 1000 yard stare. I don't know either...
KelvinBelmont it's been a very loooooong year
It's certainly been a long year for Anthem...
@@autobotstarscream765 It's been the only year for Anthem. Not even a whole year.
@@goonhaveanotherbikky Exactly. >:3
"Dylan, because they hoped it would be talked about for years to come"
Talk about a monkey paw situation.
Ryan Dean ?
@@forcedtohaveahandle Google it
Should have used the last wish on a turkey sandwich.
@@healsallwounds the turkey's a little dry...
THE TURKEY'S DRRYYYYYY!!!
"Is there a future for Anthem?"
"Yes, yes there is. A very bright future, we hope!"
Just here on the day of Anthem's death to remember every step of the way
Thank god for James Stephanie Sterling.
RIP Anthem
2019-2019
"You were boring gobshite"
Commander Shepard died (again) for Anthem to live for approximately less than a year. Bioware as we knew it is dead. EA's smartest investment would be to hire a necromancer considering all these dead games and franchises they have. Thanks for nothing Casey Hudson, you're like the George Lucas of Mass Effect except even George never ran away to Microsoft only to cower back home after that venture failed, he just cashed out when he knew he was finished.
@@ThePurpleSpartan They're sitting on several gold mines, paradoxically they don't exploit them because the're all about the money and have convinced themselves that the only way to make money is to focus only on a small handful of huge games.
F
I'm Commander Shepard and Anthem is the worst game on the Citadel.
Anyone else still bitter about the hot garbage known as Anthem? I feel robbed still.
This is why games should never be pre-ordered,especially
“live service “games with “road maps”.
Only ever judge a game by what it offers at this moment, not what it's supposed to offer in the future.
Exactly, no matter how good a game might seem, ALWAYS wait until the reviews come out. Only time I might pre-order something is if the game already came out but is being ported to a different platform, and the sale is big enough that it's worth the risk.
A real shame the concept had alot to work with, the gameplay could have bin some of the best. But EA had it's hands in the game.....
After reading this comment, I just realized I can’t read the phrase “live service” without hearing it the way Jim says it.
I got it like first day because first few hours of gameplay looked Interesting
"10 years of support" couldn't even get 10 months. I'm still amazed this game came out in 2019.
Anybody who pays attention isn't. This is the same industry that released Fallout 76 and Assassin's Creed Unity at us.
If anyone ever says they are going to support something for 10 years you should belly laugh. That's literally almost two average console generations and nothing that isn't primarily a PC title will EVER get 10 years of support. It's a bald-faced lie and companies REALLY need to stop using that particular one. Heck. even among PC centric titles games supported for 10 years or more number in the single digits. It's just a silly thing to promise in this industry.
@@devilmikey00 the only games that last that long are MMos even only a few have lasted half that long, evercrack (everquest) and wow, runescape
Holy crap. It came out in 2019??? I seriously forgot this. Incredible how it failed so quickly and thoroughly....
not even 10 weeks before the cracks started to show.
Fans: *Love the storytelling and worldbuilding of Bioware's Mass Effect and Dragon Age games*
Bioware: "Yeah, let's not make a game like that"
EA didn't give them a chance to.
@@GloomGaiGar EA did. But if they give Bioware 7 years to make the game but Bioware just wanks around and start doing the game after 5-6? that's where the problem is
@@optidalfprime3904 In the video he outright says that when the dragon age head was story boarding they didn't want the game to go in that direction so they took him off. EA is just as much to blame
@@gemain609 So they took someone of from storyboarding and the project doesn't progress for 5 years. Cool. Not how it works. Bioware management was just dogshit
There's nothing wrong with trying to branch out. In theory.
"Yes, there is a future for Anthem. A very bright future, we hope."
Solid Snake: "It's a terrible day for rain."
Isn’t that quote from Colonel Roy Mustang?
0utta S1TE
What are you talking about crying?
I only see raindrops.
If Anthem was inside a locker with Otacon it'd pee its pants.
@@jdbruiser well, yeah. dead things relax all their muscles, so as is usual for a dying thing, anthem went out as it came in, screaming, kicking and pissing on the carpet.
@@Yal_Rathol Compared with that bloke who peed on The Dude's rug, Anthem has incontinence issues.
I keep forgetting this game even exist. The only time I remember is when someone brings it up. Which is not often. To think it came out this year.
Indeed, i legit forgot this game exists and that i even own it (maybe i'm subconsciously trying to deny that i ever wasted money on it) untill i saw this vid on my youtube feed.
It came out this year?
Anything by companies like activision and ea I completely ignore. Subconsciously
Many of their garbage I either forget the release date or their entire existence altogether. Just too many other good games to bother worrying about their trash
It came out this year? Holy shit I legit thought this game came out in 2018 😅.
An Argos in driving distance were too lazy to get rid of their advertisement marquee for Anthem.
I can’t believe Jim killed Anthem in his Backyard while wearing a Mysterio Cosplay.
I know. I assumed he would have worn a sexy boglin costume.
Considering how much Jim Sterling has a habit of doing bizarre out-of-nowhere skits, I actually thought I was going to see the video cut to Jim destroying an Anthem disc, while dressed as Mysterio and acting with the mannerisms of the Surprise Mechanic. I was a little disappointed when I did not see such fabulous imagery happen... unless I somehow missed it.
@@lemeres2478 Sexy boglin costumes? Delicious.
I'd like to remind everyone that this was the game, that made Mass Effect Andromeda what it was.
Because the the a-team was busy working on this and the b-team took up Andromeda
Your a team sucked i doubt andromeda would've been any better
Anthem: So shit, it made other games shit via proximity.
RectalDiscourse There was very little wrong with Andromeda once the facial animations were patched. It was just the fanboi assholes went hysterical, vomiting, pissing and shitting in all directions, screaming that it was “THE WORST GAME EVA, EVA, EVVVVVAAAA!!!” In fact in playability it was better than the original trilogy, and the story was an introduction to a new trilogy, just like ME1. A lot of people are reassessing Andromeda and shamefaced admitting that they may just have over reacted a tad.
that is literally not true. both games suffered because of top-down policies
@@SvenTviking so what your saying is they were ashamed of their words and deeds?
To be fair: Anthem will most likely be talked about for years to come...
...as the striking example of how not to design your „live service“ shit show of a video game.
Pretty sure fallout 76 hilds that title, but anthem is a VERY close 2nd
It's more of an example of why not to buy into live services to begin with because this is what you're pretty much going to get.
originalscreenname44
That‘s a given, imo.
More like never to buy Live Service games to begin with.
that can be said about any new game, look at ghost recon breakpoint, fallout 76
Bioware is so good at magic they made Anthem disappear, even made Randy Pitchford jealous at their skill
If only they could make Randy's carer disapear
Soon EA is gonna put them both to shame by making an entire studio disappear.
@@kingoftehwalrus77 as long as EA has sport titles then, no
@@MortalReaver Um, yes?
EA is not a studio, it's a publisher.
It's weird no usb drive full of Anthem porn he wanted to study has been found yet.
Actually, it's not weird at all, i doubt there is any Anthem porn anywhere to be found.
Anthem is so bad Jim scolded his Boglin at the end.
It had no choice but to intervene, Jim was about to be consumed by Road-Map Rage!
Scolded his Boglin? Is that what the kids are calling it nowadays?
I for one would like to stand up and say that Boglin abuse is hurtful to Boglins, and detrimental to their Boglin ways.
You wouldn't bonk a Fantasy Miniature Willem Daffoe, you wouldn't scold a Skeletor Pog. Boglin abuse IS a crime! :
"Anthem is a social game, where you and your friends go on quests and journeys."
I can't be the only one who is sick to death of hearing things like that. First thing I think when I hear that is: the game is minimal-effort, poor story, multiplayer crap that is only entertaining if you can get your friends to play with you. It also assures that your game will be pretty much worthless, when they do close the servers.
Every game does not need to be a social multiplayer (unless your goal is to sell micro-transactions). Some of us play games to get away from the world for a moment, along with the people in it, and relax with some alone time.
Agreed. That really put a damper on my interest in the game before it even came out.
in Destiny they really use that "better played with friends" motto as a band-aid instead of fixing the game issues, in hopes YOU will USE your friends to fix these issues for you. I have a feeling it's a kind of disgusting, actually...
i too am really sick of this "everything is a co-op" trend.
I agree. I like Co-Op games as much as the next guy, but having games where you always have some John Doe thats 20 levels above you doing fuck all just gets anoying after a while
@@funninoriginal6054 I like Co-Op with friends but I don't like massive online games with loads of people running around ruining my experience. And this model of launching a core boring game to rake money in and then spends years adding actual content later is getting old fast.
One of the best-selling games of 2019, that is absolutely sad.
Sales still far underperformed EA's expectations. Might even be a net loss.
Lots off pre-order victims.
@@gremlinmogwai9649 they deserve it to be honest
Trend continues with Borderlands 3. May be a good game, but the publishers sold out in the worst possible way... Epic exclusive. Yet 90% of the globe bought the game anyway. I am so glad I am not a supporter of that trash. There's a drastic number of people who should be ashamed of their support of that disgusting practice. I couldn't even be bothered to pirate it, just cuz I don't wanna end up liking a game 2K, gearbox _and_ Epic are all involved with.
spyOx best two games ever sorry you enjoy trash :)
Oh anthem had a pop-culture impact. You can still see the smoking crater.
Made from the game systems it cratered.
Vaping controversy has more smoking rising from it's impact. This is the puff from one of those candy cigarettes.
I feel like "Anthem will be talked about for years to come" wasn't exactly WRONG. Just you know, not in the way they had hoped.
Hasn't even been a year since release
Legend Ronk I think anthem will always be used as an example.
And we HAVE to keep talking about it! The moment we forget, AAA companies will do it again.
@@XescoPicas you are wrong. AAA does not give a fuck about what we think or do. Jim looks like he's on track to make every video about anthem for the rest of his TH-cam career lol
I think that was implied.....
I keep forgetting that it came out in 2019, it feels like so long ago
Didn't it come out in 2018? Am I missing something here. There is just something that doesn't add up.
@@Legion849 when did February 22nd 2019 suddenly become part of 2018?
The only thing that doesnt add up is your not actually paying attention or even casually googling the answer.....
Me: “Why are people talking about Anthem? Didnt that game come out like 5 years ago?”
Also me: “Oh god.”
@@JackTheripper911 Maybe but still doesn't it feel that Anthem somehow reset the timeline. I swear I'm not crazy just saying
Jim looks more like a 90s cartoon villain after each jimquision
That's because he is. That's the beauty of it all.
That thumbnail said it all.
Doesn't he have a thing for 90s cartoon villains?
More like 80s cartoon villains. I mean, he references Skeletor, Decepticons, all that 80s jazz.
If I get the funds, I've been thinking about using Hero Forge, or something similar, to make Squad Sterling. I think the only one I'd need to learn how to sculpt myself would be the corn flake homunculus.
The part that depresses me the most, is the effect on the development of DA4. After DA Inquisition, the dev leads had worked out a plan for the sequel that took the core game design and improved it further. Then, Bioware came in, gutted the team to shift resources to Anthem. That concept for DA4 was basically thrown out, as team members were lost and replaced. Now, the current form of DA4, is reportedly nothing like the original intent.
That's great news for me. Another game I won't feel obliged to buy for nostalgia reasons. Future Bioware games are dead to me. ME1 and 2 and old dragon age games are Bioware to me. This new thing is Shitware. Don't wanna go anywhere near that steaming pile of crap.
I can't wait to see how awful Elder Scrolls VI will be
@@nousername2942 Thats a different company. And Bethesda has only made one bad game, Fallout 76. They won’t mess with their flagship series, TES VI will probably be a return to form. Like how Borderlands 3 is more Borderlands, despite being published by Take Two.
Arella Jardin
That’s gotta feel horrible for the team manager. You have this grand plan for the game and the resources to pull it off, then all of a sudden someone comes in and sucks it all up and dumps it into another office leaving the manager scratching their head, wondering what the hell just happened before realizing their project is gonna take another 10 years to finish.
Edit: and imagine that happening all the time because it’s EA.
@@arellajardin8188 Very aware that these are in fact two separate companies. Thank you for stating this though
How can they learn their lesson when everyone who learned that lesson got fired as soon as the game was finished.
That's an odd remark, considering it never was finished - by design. "Live services" don't get finished, they get abandoned.
The everyday office devs were not responsible nor were they fired over Anthem, they're more likely to get laid off due to budget cuts. The problem with these games is they have no competent leadership at the top- all the good writers and project directors that made Bioware so good early on are gone, replaced by people who only have a mandate to try and copy other successful games and give into EA's whims about the next big thing.
@c-pin Come now they'll all be rehired under new contracts all to be laid off and rehired again for the next game after that. It's fun never having permanent employees. No benefits or workers' rights and if they bitch you can just kick them out the door! It's in the contract on page 87, clause 10.
For real though at this point boiware exists in name only. Anyone significant left years ago.
Idea of having mechs was good but they were so slow and missions were so boring
"This new game's gonna be legendary!"
"Cool. What's it about?"
"Um... It'll have action and co-op."
"Okay, and?"
"And what? It's an action game with co-op! What else do you want?"
"Enough talk, let's talk!"
Jim Sterling 2019
At no point did he say "have at you."
Jim disappoints again. Unsubscribed.
I remember my friends trying to get me to buy this game, and I told them it looked boring. I still ask them about it from time to time, none of them beat it. One even forgot he bought it.
My friends tried to do the same.
Two of them still play and keep saying the game is not dead. I don't care for the game either way.
This might end up being one of the very very few games I never end up playing. Have seen enough of it to know I will never pay money for it. I have 120k gamerscore on 360 generation, level 19 on PS4, 101 games on Steam -- I don't play for trophies/achievements either. I've played almost all of the shit games just to see what they are about. Can't ever imagine playing Anthem. Was following the games' progress too ..I remember the 2014 trailer having watched it more than a few times.
@@methos4866 The sunken cost fallacy at work
i remember seeing the E3 trailers, just never gave a shit because they never showed me why i should be interested in this new ip, just gameplay of flying around in a generic looking power armor with little other context, probably didnt help that I never played any bioware games prior to hearing of it.
@@methos4866 Yeah, that sounds like the same kind of "not dead" that Battleborn was enjoying a year ago. "Not dead" as in "there's still a tiny fringe group of hardcore loyalists that meet every second Saturday to get enough people for a game together for maybe 2 hours".
In live-service multiplayer game terms, that's so dead it almost loops back around to undeath.
The only future anthem has is as an example of EA’s horribleness
Toaster so it’s joining the endless list of EA shit
Example people don't heed with Fallen Order on the horizon.
I think that in this the studio, bioware, is more to blame here than ea.
BIOWARE is responsible for it too. But divide and conquer by scam business working as intended.
AI.
Investors > Intelligence.
Artificial Inflation.
We are being priced out of life because of Artificial Inflation.
Artificial Inflation creates pay-walled-region-locked-time-gated content.
How much the game sold so far?
Pre ordering a live service is an exercise in “surprise mechanics”.
EA : We don't know why we are seen as the bad guys.
@OzarkoBlam You mean your surprise cell growth.
@@Legion849 😂
*T H E R E ' S T O O M U C H C A R I N T H I S C A R*
Anthem brought me so much joy this year. I never played it.
same goes for FO76, the two biggest and most joyous comedies
Soulcleave ain’t that the truth 😂
This guy knows what's up!
"Jason Shreier's infamous expose on __________'s history..."
Anthem truly is the Destiny killer
Should note I actually play Destiny btw
Destiny Killer? in what, like... some sort of bizarre suicide pact?
It's like a modern Daikatana, did they seriously learn absolutely nothing from John Romero's follies?
Anthem might kill Bioware's destiny, but not Activision's.
Try "Destiny Promoter".
Cause it was around the beta the I'd started Destiny 2.
When Jim opened with talking about dissecting Anthem, I could only picture him hunched over the game muttering about it and then exclaiming, "OOOOOOH A LIVER!"
You just made my day.
Live(R) service
Yes!
Don't mind me, just back to this video (which belongs in the fucking Louvre) after the death knell of "Anthem".
Casey Hudson: While the Montreal studio is working on the next Mass Effect game, our team here in Edmonton is developing a completely new IP.
*uses Mass Effect music in the video*
To be fair, the Anthem music was probably as complete as everything else in the game at the time.
They should have used Kevin McLeod tracks like everyone else on the Internet.
I believe that extract was from a video that primarily focused on Andromeda.
After andromeda that montreal studio got shut down... I wonder when they lose their next studio
Someone, literally anyone: Live servi...
Jim: COWABUNGA IT IS!
"Talked about for years to come".
Oh it will be.
For all the wrong reasons.
Sorta like Hitler
Daikatana strikes again.
Stefan Eriksson It's more like Duke Nukem Forever in my opinion. A game that's remembered for it's hype, tortured development cycle and massive dissapointment it caused. Only difference is that Duke Nukem Forever looks like a pretty good game killed by over-hyping and late release while Anthem just looks like a cashgrab.
"Its a clean slate"
Destiny clone with jetpacks with one loading screen.
No thanks.
It was the Destiny killer that couldn't even last one year . EA never learns
It wasn't a Destiny clone. It was in fact the Multiplayer mode of Mass Effect Andromeda, with new assets. But, you know, they made sure not to involve the developers that made that mode (the only good part of ME:A and the only people that would know how to make that game), and slapped a tons of bad loot mechanics on top.
I'm serious, they actually confirmed on the record that those devs didn't work on Anthem, as if they were proud to not involve the only people with competency in the area their new game focuses on. Because the game those people were forced to work on before wasn't good in the area they weren't good at (singleplayer). But that's EA logic for you, the same company that cancelled a game for not selling enough - before it got released.
Not even a Destiny clone
@@shorddy1668 Yeah. For all the game's faults, D1 kept me coming back for a good while. Anthem was a game with jetpacks... and I honestly couldn't tell you from trailers what the game was even about.
silverblade357 exactly
Is there a future for Anthem?
Me: A bit of poison on my blade and let's GO!
Anthem is a masterwork, YOU CAN'T GO WRONG!
Is there a future for Anthem
Yes out back behind a barn
Son, fetch me the shotty will ya?
There may be hope for a sequel and we'll give it a flattering welcome upon its arrival.
@@wargamingrefugee9065 can we please not denigrate addicts and whores by comparing them to anthem? Thanks.
@@wargamingrefugee9065 I like to think there's hope for the addict whores... there's no hope for Anthem or BioWare.
Anthem: "I'm not dead!
"
Bioware: "'Ere, he says he's not dead.
"
Jim Sterling: "Yes he is.
"
Anthem: "I'm not."
Bioware: "He isn't."
Jim Sterling: "Well, he will be soon, he's very ill."
Anthem: "I'm getting better.
"
Jim Sterling: "No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment."
“IT’S BIOWARE (necromantic) MAGIC!!!”
"I'm not dead, I'm in maintenance mode!"
look ... it moved
no it didn't, you rattled its cage
he's pining for the fjords
It has ceased... to be! Bereft of life, it rests in peace!!
"Whatever happened to Anthem's playerbase?"
"He's over there..."
Blimey, I forgot that Anthem came out THIS YEAR... as in 2019.
Just been busy playing... good games to really even notice
Damn right. I never even NOTICED that Anthem even existed.
I've just been playing apex and minecraft all year I forgot Anthem existed.
Bro what have you been playing??
DaFreshLink of Back Air
Not Anthem
@@Timmzy27 we want to play good games to but we're stuck with trippeeeeaaaiii bs. So if you have actually played games that you consider good in 2019 that is from 2019, please share.
I could NEVER wrap my head around how the human character's fit their legs into the javelins lol
Oh god thank you. I /hate/ how they look.. It looks like the people in the suits are walking on their shin bones because of how the leg is bent and it's just hideous.
Now if it was like Starfox where they cut off their legs for augments (or the MEK soldiers from X-Com) that'd be believable.
@@chaosinc.382 Starfox is neat. Nintendo’s Starfox I mean, not Marvel’s Starfox. He’s pretty dumb.
@@JaelinBezelEy man, what've got got against Starfox? Not the most original character, I'll admit, but he's gone over a bit of a revamp and I think he's just fine. Not great. But fine. Hell, Starfox essentially saved the planet in the recent A.X.E. event.
"... there's a lot to say about Anthem..."
In June 2016 Shamus Young finished his 50 part retrospective analysis of the Mass Effect series, critically examining the shift in tone, theme, and writing style over the course of the series after someone mentioned "People will always be able to talk about Mass Effect".
In October 2019, Anthem is being raked over the coals and criticised and is likely considered a cautionary tale for future development. Both likely talked about for a long time, but for exceedingly different reasons.
Just another reminder that they basically parade these developer names out like suits made of skin they can slap onto a box when they want to cash in on some good will/nostalgia these days.
Oooo, can you tell me where the analysis is? It sounds like something I would want to read.
@@CleverCover05 It's on Shamus Young's blog, Twenty Sided Tale
goddamn... i've seen unvaccinated kids live longer than anthem...
ooof
Big ooof
F.
Kids born with terrible birth defects generally live longer than Anthem!
typical sjw libtard globalist. VACCINES ARE WHAT KILL CHILDREN. #MAGA
"this is an industry that never learns its lessons"
yep, that's pretty much it. i really want the next dragon age to knock one out of the park but i'm not optimistic given bioware's horrid performance over the past few years.
"Let's all laugh at a industry that never learns anything, tee hee hee." -Yahtzee, Zero Punctuation
@@EvillBob Damnit, I was going to type that.
You just need a couple of hype trailers and paid shills to make "beta" gameplay videos to revive your hype engine. You'll be back on the hype track soon enough before it's release.
All we're hearing about Dragon Age 4 is that it's going to be 'Anthem with dragons.'
...Yeah.
Exactly, we seen what happened to Anthem, Anthem with dragon just doesnt sounds amazing.
I come from a year and a half in the future to report Jim was exactly right...the promised "remake" got cancelled, and while the servers are still technically running, it will never get any more updates, and noone plays it.
Can you imagine being someone working on Mass Effect Andromeda? Stressed out, aimless, and overworked only to finish and release the game to angry fans everywhere.... then be shipped over to the other studio to....start work on Anthem. What kind of fresh hell is that?
From the frying pan into the fire.
@Dahn Well tbh Anthem was more Biowares fault than EA's
SilentKnight11 Read the Otaku article as it’s even worse: the people that worked on Andromeda before got all treated like second class citizens due to their game failing. And the only people with any decent online experience aka the Star Wars team got ignored entirely because why listen to anybody that had already experienced the issues that come with online life services. Sadly Anthem is also a tale of hubris in Biowares „A“ team.
@@davidgantenbein9362 100%. I remember reading about the issues the Andromeda team faced during their production, and then reading the Anthems teams issues that basically mirror what happened the first time. Engine issues, people being pulled off the team and not replaced, both teams failed at finding the direction early enough, and management just didnt know where to go. M.E. wanted to go the route of No Mans Sky, but they couldnt make procedural gen work correctly so they had to scramble to get their game done in time. Anthem, those guys had no idea where they were going until about a year before deadline. Absolute insanity.
@@juicecanister Nope. EA owns Bioware, EA holds the pursestrings, EA forces ridiculous deadlines.
When they said "Actual Gameplay" and I heard the dialogue I called bullshit. They actively lied to us. They engaged in false advertising, and people still bought it.
And they got away with it, and they'll do it again. There is never any legal repercusion for these guys.
@jocaguz18 But it shouldn't be. Imagine if a car manufacturer showed you a car, let you drive it and it performs wonderfully and looks absolutely amazing so you sign for one and spend 180k. Then half a year later they deliver you a car that looks like a mad painter's idea of a horse carriage that mixes you like a shake n bake every time you drive anywhere and when you complain they tell you that the car you tested was a prototype and this is the final product you bought.
There's a reason bait and switch is a term for illegal behaviour in retail, but the gaming industry has greased all the right palms so they can get away with it as long as they slap "in development" somewhere in the footnotes.
To bad it is false advertisement, you dont promote a product to an audience and then sell something completely different..
Ppl bought it even after trying the shit demo.
jocaguz18 You understand, I hope, that they're selling the finished product, not the prototype? That when the prototype looks nothing like the finished product, using the look of the prototype to sell the finished product was therefore a lie? Don't sell shit until you know how it'll look when complete -- otherwise you're a damned liar in each and every case where you gave your assurances about what the result would be and it turned out different. For video games, that means finish them, then tell us about them. If you can't fairly quickly sell people on the finished product on its merits alone, without the early hype train bullshit, then your product deserves to flop, hard.
"You want us to make a game? What type?"
"Hmm, don't know. Maybe something without... pianos... cake... nor expressive dancing? And definitely NO anteaters! Is that clear?!"
"Allright, how about colors and sound?"
"Yes."
Aw, but I want anteaters in more games. Not nearly enough anteater representation in my fiction.
I know this references one of the Sega CD "Make a Music Video" games, but I can't remember which.
Pianos? Cake? Expressive dancing? Anteaters?
Did you just describe Animal Crossing there?
@@wadespencer3623 I do believe the last piece of fiction I consumed with an important anteater character is still Princess Tutu. Even Wikipedia only lists about five total. Now that I have become aware of this injustice I think we should do something about it.
And also tapirs. More fictional tapirs, dammit.
@@KassFireborn There's a little tapir pet that you can have follow you around in Final Fantasy XIV. But yeah we need more anteaters. And platypi.
"Released Anthem upon the world like a weaponized virus."
Wait, Anthem created Covid19? I knew it!
I love that the "Post-Mortem"s have become an unofficial mini-series on this channel.
Yet it's kinda sad that it has to exist. And no doubt sad that so many games are potential candidates for it.
a hyped friend practically begged me to get anthem so me and him could play together, he personally gave me a refound for it out of his own pocket and we went back to gamecube
anthem, makes you cherish the classics
I'm still glad that I didn't cave into my buddy's begging to buy the game despite all those promises for "10-year franchise", "roadmap full of promises", "years of following support", just like your beloved warframe but in the hands of competent devs able to release a polished product that doesn't break after each update'.
A little conflict was worth having because now I can poke fun at those "100% commitment" statements every time he brings up 'I don't support non-AAA products because they are shitty messes with no value because they always fail to calculate risks, timelines and polishment'.
@@admiraltonydawning3847 content drought is such a bitch. Haven't properly played WF since December 2018. Now I grind Destiny 2, but it got unnecessary complicated once it went F2P.
WF really hasn’t changed all that much from Dec 2018 really; Melee 3.0 part 2 coming out this week, after part two 1 took like 6 months
@@admiraltonydawning3847 Tell your friend to seriously reconsider the indie scene
Also how is he still saying that after Anthem lol
Can’t stop laughing at Anthem’s “joy-knee.”
the android wilson voice has always been my favorite
"Mister Wilson, would you like to comment on the latest Anthem controversy-" "WHERE. IS. THE. DOK-TOR? EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!"
"See you on the other side" - Bioware after EA kills it finally.
Oh, EA will never die, it's using all the souls from the studio's it killed to transform itself into a lich. At least it won't have to give up its humanity, no, it lost that a long time ago.
right now BioWare has been fully assimilated, like agent smith in the matrix... EA will eventually shit them out though... then the cycle begins again.
Damn, Anthem makes me so depressed...hard to believe it came out only 7 months ago.
Feels like over a year ago. Never played it myself personally.
@@darthbane2669 I got suckered in. Fortunately, I got all my money back after I discovered that the game was shit...so not all bad news 👍
Wait, *only* 7 months ago. It feels like it only lasted 3 months.
I never finished the game. I hit that stupid grind wall and checked out. A game that does not want me to play it is a game I do not want to play.
Those "10 years journeys" end earlier every time.
Also important to notice (imo): The Anthem Subreddit was deemed so toxic by developers, they abandoned it. And those who liked the game spawned a second 'no salt allowed'-subreddit.
I guess the devs and the tiny player base couldn't handle the truth
Yeah, it's a bit difficult to get legit feedback to the devs when the subreddit looked like this comments section.
No shit allowed? So no mention of anthem was allowed then?
Didn't know Verlis played Anthem...
"Most of anthems gameplay consisted of going [flying] somewhere, shooting something, listening to dialogue, playing a game of hot and cold, rinse, repeat."
This sounds... oddly... familiar...
yeah, like every shooter in the industry? I once had first person games summarized as "you press W and react to what happens on a screen" to me. And yes, it actually is that, but all dressed up in facny stuff.
Anthem: just play Warframe.
It's free
or Destiny 2, it's free now too....
Destiny Free to Pay for shitty DLCs, no thank you.
Destiny 2 is a great option as well, there's so much free content on offer :).
i got the shadowkeep dlc. turns out all the good guns are in forsaken. feelsbadman.
@@AchedSphinx which guns are you missing?
Wait...Anthem released this year? THIS year? 2019? Really? Really, less than 10 months ago?
Granted I didn't play it but I could have sworn it wasn't that new
February 22nd
Amazing, isn't it? I'm impressed at how fast EA and Bioware managed to sink the damn thing.
I'm pretty sure alot of people forgot it came this year
8 months ago actually, but it doesn't matter it's aged like a worn out prostate. Anthem has aged faster than the amount of time it took Greg Miller to hit puberty.
Could've sworn it was a 2018 game. Dang, that's sad
the part where he says "Bioware magic" kills me all the time xD
To be fair, necromancy *is* a type of magic. Though they're not very good at it.
Or if you read “Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire”, the BioWare Magic could appropriately be compared to all the food that seems to magically appear at the Hogwarts dining tables, only for it to be the work of many enslaved house elves all along.
"Unicronic Arts."
Damn dude. Respect.
R.I.P the good old days of Dragon Age Origins & Mass Effect 1
IMO DA2 and ME3 were good too, despite their poor reputations. Each has serious issues of course (the asset reuse and the endings, respectively), but I don't think those issues are enough to make them bad games by any means. And of course ME2 was arguably better than ME1 in many respects.
God, Presidential hires in this current administration lasted longer than Anthem.
DAMN.
Bioware is as good at making live service games as DNC is at winning elections
Nikke 2800 Well, the DNC did take back the House and won the Presidency twice in a row before the current one....
Yeah. Let's make it political. Edgy. Nerd.
Phil M Who hurt you
To quote Yahtzee Croshaw:
"Let's all laugh at an industry,
That never learns anything tee hee hee"
Or when he makes EA sound like a baby. "Ahloahsihdbkdaj!"
@@TheDakattack3000 Stop holding your breath EA
Let's all laugh at an
Industry that never learns
Anything tee hee
I 60% expected Jim (or I guess Justin) to play that Zero Punctuation clip when Jim said that this industry never learns.
EA: "All studios should work with the FrostBite engine"
Respawn: "Eeenope."
"The mismanagement will continue until profits increase!" - a CEO stockholders should run through a paper shredder
Fixing the "loot shower" was very instructive, they wanted to keep the grind, maintain user engagement. For some reason "live services" rely on this dull, job-like environment.
Was anthem ever truly alive?
Your icon is cute where is it from?
Sure, in the same way flesh-eating bacteria is alive.
@@JimSterling You said bacteria and not virus! ^_^
It had a flicker of a heartbeat whilst it was still in Hudson's pantaloons.
I swear, Jason Schrier should earn a mini-Pulitzer for that _Anthem_ exposè.
Lucky Striker gaming pulitzer
"Anthem is the fifth best-selling game of 2019" - Everyone who bought it, deserved it.
Bet they made their money back too
I didn't mind the game. It was fun, and it would have been fine if they kept releasing story with it. Then at least you would have easily, at least, been able to get your money's worth out of it. If they had released the other acts before dropping support it would have been "fine", and maybe salvageable. But with the dropping of the roadmap, I don't understand their thought process.
I enjoyed it for the 25-30 hours I put into it
even now there are parts i think are novel about it, its just the low player base, the lack of any drive to fix it, and all the worst parts of live service without any of the good that keep me from installing again.
You get it for free if subscribed to Origin.
The most astounding thing about this is that Mass Effect 3 came out 7 years ago.
Mass Effect 3 was a clear sign of the EA Rot setting in. Not that it had literally nothing to offer, and it's gotten worse since, but we are well on the trajectory by now, and the path has been clear for a while. There literally can no longer be hope for Dragon Age 4, they'll have to prove themselves a hundredfold. Or just peter off and die. Either is fine with me.
@@RoyalFusilier ME3 was the last Bioware game I enjoyed. Not due to the story but that 4 player horde mode sucked me in for months. Loved the way the characters worked together and the screen shaking, subwoofer booming biotic explosions that you could set off. Andromeda ruined every aspect of that legacy and then Anthem just rolled around in the shit.
@@nekro5342 ME3 multiplayer gameplay was enjoyable, but it was literally progression by loot-box. In fact, its the first title i remember playing to push loot boxes in that way.
21:35 "You better hope you like what's in that package at launch ..."
Genuinely sad state of affairs that you have to HOPE for a good game at launch.
I’ll be waiting for the day Jim starts making post-mortems on “former AAA publishers” ...
"Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything! Tee-hee-hee!"
And start crying when we realize that neither does the consumers
*demands a "not a Destiny clone" Destiny clone*
EA: oh...that didnt work out
*wraps belt around fist and points at Bioware*
EA: this is your fault
EA wanted that 2014 game.
PTRD 41 ironic that EA’s suggestion to keep flying in the game ended up being the only part of the game that people liked
This comment cracked me up xD
I do love how much you hate the term “live service”.
How can ANYONE not hate Live Service? I will never play any such game.
this game was a litmus test to see if people would buy the crap out of shit games and they will so now EA is only going to allow game companies to make shit games and push them out faster and faster and people will keep buying them because apparently these days people are fucking stupid. It seems like these days people are actually more ignorant and stupid then when we all thought the Earth was flat! Loads of information off of the internet is useless if you do not possess the wisdom to correctly utilize said information!
You can still play games from the 90s but you will never play anthem in 30s. Not because you don't want to but because it's not possible.
Frostbite Engine - built specifically for battlefield.
EA - hey bioware use this engine you've never used and that was never design for an RPG etc
Compare the lifespan of a “live service” game like Anthem to a single-player sandbox like Skyrim. Not even a year later and Anthem’s player base has already long abandoned it. Skyrim is pushing a decade since its release and continues to draw players back, all without the “live” components that are meant to serve that very purpose
This goes to show that the logic of “live service” is a lie. These publishers don’t want to bring value and longevity to the game as a way to serve players, despite their reiteration of this very talking point. In actuality, they want to extract every last cent of money from a IP as long as a player base is still actively engaged with it. We more or less heard Todd Howard and Bethesda admit this to be the case when they explained the motivation for making Fallout 76. They saw this massive fan base engaged with the incredible game they created, but sales of the game itself weren’t good enough. A “live service” allows the publisher to dip into the reserves of the same player base repeatedly, rather than pushing them to to make money. The profit motive which once encouraged devs and publishers to innovate and sell new experiences to players has been exploited in favor of stagnation
Maybe I’m being overly optimistic, but I don’t foresee this model of game production being sustainable for much longer. Look no further than EA as evidence of how unsustainable this has been. Over the course of a console generation, they have exploited every single one of their IP’s (Need For Speed, FIFA, Star Wars Battlefront, Battlefield, etc.). The value of these IP’s has quickly been diminished as players notice the quality of the game has been sacrificed in the name of profitability. If publishers want to preserve the value of their IP’s, they will have to earn respect back from the consumer.
it's not going to die off any time soon. the triple-a companies are pretty much only in it for money. they hype everyone up, convince people they've changed, get everyone super excited and holding their hands out for the bright new shiny thing... and then the company takes a big shit right in your hands.
and then people wait a few months, the companies start to hype everyone up and convince them they've changed, and it won't be like last time (as they gorge themselves on cheap mexican street stand burritos...)
I honestly can't think of any EA property I'm even remotely interested in.
It just works! (All the fine print included)
@@tzxazrael honestly that's an insult to cheap Mexican street Burritos.
Bensaw11
Skyrim doesn’t need a live service model to sustain itself. Not with all the ports, of course. How much do you wanna bet that Bethesda will have PS5 and Xbox Scarlet ports of Skyrim?
“Anthem: So sh!t, people want the bugs put back in!” 😂 14:18 Sooo true. And it happened TWICE!
🤣🤣👌👌
Anthem passed on this year... but let us remember the good... Er...the memorable... Er.... the things that meant... Uh... Anthem was a game!
It certainly was... It certainly was... *Wipes away a tear*
3 years later: Don't forget, they're gonna keep doing this. This is what happens when you have infinite money, you throw it away on incomplete projects and just move on to the next one.
the term "live" service has never seemed more ironic.
:^) yup it's dead as a doornob.
I saw one of my friends was playing anthem yesterday. I called him an ambulance.
Them: "blah blah blah, Live Service".
Me: "thankyou, next".
“No thank you, next” I love that response.
Everyone when discussing Anthem: "Oh right, Anthem came out this year."