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A Post-Nuclear Post-Mortem Of Fallout 76 (The Jimquisition)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2019
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Fallout 76 is a cautionary tale for an industry that exercises no caution whatsoever. A wake-up call for an industry that remains asleep at the wheel.
Bethesda's broken, unfinished, poorly received foray into the "live service" arena has been a neverending carnival of humiliating nonsense. A fine example of what happens when you play to none of your strengths for the sake of ill-gotten gains.
With a big iron on our hips, let's take a look at the embarrassing, baffling, and often funny mess that is Fallout 76!
#Fallout76 #Fallout #Bethesda #E32019 #BE3 #ToddHoward #JimSterling #Jimquisition
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"We don't expect a high metacritic score"
Says the company that denied Obsidian a pay bonus because their metacritic score was 1 point off 85/100.
Besthda did that on purpose. They wanted obssdein to go bankrupt.
@@zachj19991 he didn't say that they went bankrupt, he just said bethasda wanted them to
They shouldnt expect a high metacritic stores given how much of a buggy nightmare their games are
If you develop games with the intent of them having low Metacritic scores, you never have to pay a bonus again. Think of the savings!
If you miss your target you don't get the reward for meeting that target. Otherwise their is no point in having a target because then your target has just become "less than the target"
That one guy cheering in the audience for battle royale has his family held hostage
From what I hear they pumped that audience full of liquor (and they had quite a few staffers in the crowd).
@@JimSterling
I wouldn't be surprised, I drank vodka right before the Bethesda show to prepare for the disappointment LOL
@@JimSterling You being serious or is that a funny joke?, because I wouldn't be surprised either way
@@JimSterling Of fucking course they did
I thought he was just doing a bit and dicking with the audience. It genuinely looked like the announcers were uncomfortable with how often the cheers interrupted them.
"Millions and millions of people, every month, playing those games. And we have no..."
_scrambles to think of a PR friendly word for "way to squeeze them for all they're worth"_
"...touchpoint with them."
True! 😂
lol. Evil greedy bastards. It would be one thing, if they made all the profit they do, in a way that actually helped the gamers, and put out a product people can enjoy. But this is just scam artistry at this point.
This is where someone had to tell him that's a GOOD thing, if they still play these games without the microtransactions and shit then *maybe sell more games like that or add DLC packs for them*
The greed has blinded the people at the top, they have no clue what their audience actually want to pay for anymore
@@spartan3924 Exactly! Why is it a mystery to them that people like these games?! The DLC for FO4 is really good - surely they could have made a killing releasing more of it that adds fun, meaningful content.
@@semanticsamuel936 The DLC for Oblivion with the madness isles was and still is my favourite DLC for anything, I think I liked it more than the rest of the game too, if they made more interesting expansions I would totally buy them, or if they just made more of these games instead of trying to get people hooked on shittier versions of them, then they could actually make reliable money instead of wasting it on bad press.
Think the people in charge really do have $ symbols in their eyes and can't just try stuff if it isn't making all the money in the world anymore, sad really, on the + side there will definitely be another Fallout and another Elder scrolls because they know that is popular, eventually.
Turd Howard LITERALLY admitted he doesn't like the model of making a game, giving it to players, and going away while they enjoy playing it. Because that model worked just fine for decades, let's just stomp on it until it dies.
Thanks, Turd.
Thanks.
You engage with players. By selling DLC, and possibly even Microtransactions. Not MAKING A GAME THAT SUCKS.
I know it sounds like that, but I honestly think he was just making shit up on the spot. Like... he’s fucking atrocious at his job.
Not to mention the fact Skyrim has been re released 568 times. Isn’t that enough money making out of one game?
IT JUST WORKS
@@krusher181 Hes good at the job of smiling at the camera and sounding inviting. His actual job is what sucks.
Do you think the crowd would have cheered so loud if they knew they were being paid in Atoms?
Hell no 😂
Maybe if they gave us enough atoms for an in-game Canvas bag...
Light Wood Laminate!
Light Wood Laminate!
Light Wood Laminate!
Eguzky Lol. Chasing the live service multiplayer trend has hurt not only Fallout 76 but Bethesdas reputation as the single player gamers saviours imo. That crowd was paid for or friends and family of Bethesda employees, either that or they are completely crazy fanboys who whoop and holler at anything Bethesda say?!
Didn't you see the guns in the row behind?
Holy shit, I wish I got applauded like that for doing the bare minimum at my job.
There is an rumour going on that Todd Howard got piss off about the " Yelling Guy" in the crowd and curse him, not knowing that his headset wasn't muted. Not knowing is true or not, its funny too know that it's due to Bestheda lackeys.
The applause are only from Bethesda employees
Get a job as the guy who pushes the applaud button on a crappy live TV show and your wish will come true. Sure it's a little more effort than adding NPCs to fallout 76 but at least you don't have to deal with the aftermath of sober people watching online.
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Almost rendered.
West Virginia.
Buggy servers.
No texture on the rivers.
Life is glitchy there.
2D paper trees.
Younger than their engine.
Here comes another freeze.
See-through roads.
T-pose me home.
To the lies.
That I know.
At Bethesda.
Howard Papa.
Glitch me home.
See-through roads.
All my memories can't build up here.
Stuck Mole Miners, standing on the water.
Dark and dusty, glitching from the sky.
Misty taste of Skyrim, from the .ini.
See-Through roads.
T-pose me home.
To the lies.
That I know.
At Bethesda.
Howard Papa.
Glitch me home.
See-through roads.
I hear his voice.
Every time when he lies to me.
The conference reminds me of old titles in my day.
And listening to him talk I get a feeling.
That I shouldn't have paid him yesterday, yesterday.
See-Through roads.
T-pose me home.
To the lies.
That I know.
See-Through roads.
T-pose me home.
To the lies.
That I know.
Take me home, Todd Howard.
Take me home, Todd Howard.
This deserves more likes, well done lol
ENCORE!!
This is fucking GOLD.
Brilliant mate!
Just. Beautiful.
Fallout had NPCs and branching dialog trees. What great progress we've made since... *squints*... 1997.
You don't like you"re dialogue wheel. Fine no dialogue or story at all.
Couldn't agree more with this comment.
I had fun with Fallout 3, but none of Bethesda's Fallouts could top the original twos story and freedom.
Or new vegas
@@autumnmiller5675 That's probably cause some of the people who made the first two worked on that.
@@AvariceOverlord The lead people, The guys who originally created Fallout.
Literally any presenter at Bethesda's conference: h-
That one guy in the front row: YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAH WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
LMAO!
it was funny for like a second, but i got real tired of it real fast lmao
"Oi, so did you dispense the coke among the paid hype crowd?"
"Yup, he snorted it right up."
"Alright, then let's... wait, "he"? As in a singular person?"
"yeah"
"oh boy"
Oh spongebob.
Reminds moe fo that one guy from avatar last air bender. foaming at the mouth and such lol
I loved that small group of fellas who stood up and applauded Todd as he walked out.
Those brave souls would do anything to protect the lives of their family Todd holds hostage.
Maybe they were cheering for him to leave? :)
I mean considering the exclusivity of E3 and the fact they're probably journalists whose tickets live and die by their enthusiasm? Yeah, he probably IS holding their paycheques hostage in a way.
I love this comment XD
Those were all the dedicated players of fallout 76 who said "The game is fun if you have friends!"
Todd works in mysterious ways.
Watching people cheering the Fallout76 reveal was like watching people cheer the Hindenberg as it took off, or the Titanic as it left port.
I swear all the people who cheered, especially that crazy shouting lady, were Bethesda employees.
They just had hope lol
@@PanzerVII-df8hg at the time that's kinda what Fallout 76 was. A fallout mmo sounds great on paper....... But then we saw the disaster.
The difference was that there was genuine effort but into the Hindenberg and the Titanic
@bennies fried chicken My soul died in Fallout 76. >_
I always have to remind myself that despite this game being:
1) Something no one asked for or really wanted
2) a game playing AWAY from the studios strengths
3) Horribly and horrifically monetized
It's not EAs fault. EA didn't make Bethesda do this.
They have strengths? :o
Not unless Todd stole EA's manual on "How to Make a Monetized Game and You".
EA is the root of all evil. Even if they didn't order it above ground, their infernal messengers still sent word below.
@@hazukichanx408 EA: Evil, Actually
Eh just wait till EA buys them out then tries to squeeze their audience dry by making games that are only ever purchased because of brand loyalty and because they blew 80% of the game's budget on marketing.
Randy Pitchford: I'm the biggest liar in the video game industry!!
Todd Howard: Hold my nylon canvas bag.
Sean Murray: Hold my multiplayer.
*Peter Molyneux* : Glad it’s not me these days.
Peter Molyneux: Hold my Godus!!!
@@ll-js7iq I mean.... To be entirely fair to him and his team, they eventually made it right to such an extent people unironically tell me the game is good now. People who legitimately hated it before. That's more than can be said for those other guys.
Uh oh, calling Randy a liar. There is a chance he will have another meltdown and rant about you on twitter now!
Pathetic manchild that he is...
Todd: We need to be more engaging.
Bethesda Customer Support: We aren't planning on doing anything about it.
Your profile pic is terrifying
Todd uses "engaging" like darksydephil uses "support". Are you actively giving him money? No? Then fuck off
Quest which work, having no bugs... those would help. There is one quest in Fall out 4 I cannot play because my screen goes black every single time I try.
bethesda will continue this bullshit while they continue to make money from it FACT unless the fucking world boycotts them and other triple A game producers for this same bullshit shit like this will continue for years too come and everyone knew it was going to get bad before 2007 because people still buy games from companys even if they've proven to fuck the users over and over again
Customer Support and Q/A are usually ignored. This was most definitely a top down corporate vision. It's not like Todd Howard wanted to give you a revolutionary amazing experience, but he was just handcuffed by customer support.
NPCs are being added to Fallout 76, so I guess it's finally entering pre-alpha
Actual People NPCs or just more robots that suck?
"I didn't waste my time wandering through your digital oblivion"
No no. That was a good game.
Arguably...
There is nothing remotely "arguably" about Oblivion. It is an excellent game, one of my favorites of all time, and I have consistently held the belief that it is superior to Skyrim.
@@mr.kittysavestheworld695 yes, arguably because there are people like me who see Oblivian as an almost entirely worse game than Morrowind.
Imo, removal of "attack accruacy" tied to weapon skill and manual blocking were the two purely good changes, and some would still argue that they weren't positive.
Funny I hold the belief Morrowind is superior to oblivion.
Oblivion in MY opinion is a good game but opinions are subjective.
Coincidentally started a new modded Skyrim playthrough. I distinctly remember thinking.
"Thank god this game was made in 2011 instead of 2018. And thank god for Jim of course."
Only one word: Enderal
well if these companies to continue to make this shit they will continue to lose more and more fans and players so don't care I"m waiting for game industry crash because we need one, Nintendo will survive, the rest won't well MS because they sitting so much money still.
@@kyotheman69 You have no idea how wrong and stupid you are.
@@comfydragon8139 Morrowind Rebirth is not the sort of mod that's good for new players. It's much better to look for patches and graphic changes for a first-time playthrough.
And they still nearly screwed it up...TWICE.... Horse Armor?? Paid Mods?? Im seriously worried for TES6
That was the most hand picked crowd I have ever seen.
So many employees.
Yes. I bet even paid. They're so out of touch I'm surprised they didn't pan to some 49 year old guy tearing his hair out screaming "you're my God Todd Howard!"
E3 got paid people, no way in hell people will be cheering to 4 mobile games or even cheer when howard came out i would of boo him off the stage
It sounded like a crowd of nothing buy parents and friends. Those 10 people in the front row certainly earned their paychecks.
More handpicked than the Sportpalast speech.
I stil can't get over Bethesda patting themselves on the back for adding NPCs, an engaging storyline, and consequences for actions and decisions aka the bare minimum for ANY goddamn rpg...
NPCs and engaging storylines yes, but to be fair consequences for actions depends on the subgenre. WRPGs, yeah, thats part of the core experience in all the ones I'm aware of, JRPGs though usually go for a linear narrative that is meant to be engaging for the story it tells on its own rather than player input.
That said, Bethesda is a company that makes WRPGs and Fallout is a WRPG series, so its certainly the bare minimum for the type of game Fallout is meant to be.
“Fallout 76 should’ve been 86’d.” Alright, take your like, Jim.
I don't understand, explain
@@slaughterround643 Eighty-six, eighty-sixed, 86, 86ed, or 86'd is American English slang for getting rid of something by burying it, ejecting someone, or refusing service
I had to wiki that too, such an old reference, Steve Rogers might get that
@@grimwatcher ty
The term 86’d is still used in the restaurant trade for items that are removed from the menu for one night or permanently.
@@grimwatcher It's from restaurant jargon meaning you're out of something, needed to throw it out.
If you keep mentioning Bethesda and talking about 76 Randy Pitchford is going to get jealous.
Ya, he is gonna throw a fit on twitter again that Jim no longer has a hard on for him and start pouting again.
"Great big guy, British, used to have a hard-on for me. ;_;"
#RandyBitchford
Jim is a virile man, he can have a hard-on for more than one shitty CEO.
Was going to say that maybe they should hire Randy Pitchford......
22:50 What really irritates me, is they DO have a touchpoint with the Skyrim and Fallout community, even though they've implimented it TERRIBLY, the Creation Club COULD have been amazing, where they didn't TOUCH free modding, and nothing would change about modding, it could still all be free, but Bethesda themselves could or hire people that could create AMAZING DLC Sized Mods SPECIFICALLY to sell ON the Creation Club. Having a DLC JUST like the Dragonborn and Dawnguard, or even somewhat smaller sized but coming out more regularly, I mean they don't even have to come out regularly and people would buy them if they were QUALITY and didn't take AWAY from the already allowed features.
Basically they could have helped to produce some higher budget mods? That would be awesome.
The humiliation conga line isn’t stopping Jim. I’m scared
Don't worry
We are too 😓
I was legitimately shocked and confused confused over all the applause during the Blades and 76 portions of the conference
Not too shocking if they reserved the first few rows of the theater for Bethesda employees... Which is likely what happened.
@@Elc22 the rest being youtube shills and game journalist's
They were mostly Bethesda employees cheering like that with the standing ovations and what not
Jack Emerson all crowd members where lip service ants lol
I heard on the grapevine, so take with a grain of salt, that Bethesda had an open bar available so people would be rowdy in the crowd for the stream. But the guy that was yelling was an obvious plant. That made the stream hard to watch.
Everyone on twitch chat was saying "Todd Coward" and that was the best part of their conference
Slaad Howard
I really hoped when Todd entered they would put on "little lies" maybe they did I donnu I didn't watch it
Amazing what a difference a year makes, last year when he was announcing 76 twitch chat was full of people saying “God Howard.”
Fraud Howard
I just say Hod Toward
Bethesda: You know how the longevity and, at times basic functionality, of our games is heavily dependent on the modding community?
Yeah we are gunna make an always online game that can't be modded.
Yo
Modding actually made and even fixed all their games.
So yeah without it like 50% of the potential of bethesda games go out the window.
Wow, I never thought NPC's can be materialized in E3 auditorium
And yet they're still barely present in 76. Huh.
TheGospelgamer They spent too much time rendering them for E3.
You all have to remember the main point in all this:
*IT JUST WORKS.*
It works 16 times better right?
KINGU CRIMUSON
It erases time but what does that mean?
King Crimson needed to erase Fallout 76
it took me a minute to realize this wasn't a jojoke
Bethesda could only hire one Woo guy and he couldn't figure when to woo.
There were two, half way through one of them probably blew out his vocal chords....maybe.
They couldn't even finish a sentence without him screaming
It’s a shame, they could’ve got the diablo mobile game crowd guy for half the price.
I’m actually a bit unsure whether that guy was heckling or if that enthusiasm was meant to be read as genuine.
I mean, he kept interrupting even if the noises he made were positive.
pretty sure the entire front row was paid actors and bethesda employees
Given that they couldn't stop hackers from literally stealing other people's inventories, the opening monologue is extremely poignant
2018: this game can’t get any shittier
2019: hold my beer...
🤣
2020
Bethesda should abandon starfield and 76 and deliver es6 in a playable state otherswise they will turin into konami by 2020
@@sinw88 2021 says it all
Imagine clapping for NPCs and Battle Royale. The shit modders could cook up in like a month, even less than a month with NPCs.
@@loveblanket6512 Except this isn't a wholly original game made from scratch. Most of Fallout 76 was re-used content from Fallout 4. Modders could LITERALLY have made this themselves. I don't know why they'd want to, but they still could've, and it'd still have had less bugs and better content!
Basically the first 2 weeks after the current CK comes out, there are shit like that on Nexus already.
@@loveblanket6512 You colossal fucking noob Modders are far better at what Bethesda do and have made there own games only to have Bethesda stop it let alone the fact that they have fixed most of the worst bugs in the game and made more content than the entire game itself ..... any of them.
@Yes, This is Tig Well, the creation kit would give you access to premium items (most of which you could've gotten for free in F4), so that's a yikes from them, I'm guessing.
Also modders did make countless game mods from scrach
"You don't get to make the jokes about this, Bethesda, you ARE the joke."
I feel like that line alone is worthy of a slowclap.
Deserves actual applause. Unlike Bethesda's E3.
0:58.... Little did he know "Fallout Pay $100 a year First" was coming
But Jim, What about Nuka Dark Rum? That went really well! Oh wait.....🤣
“Huh wonder what that’s about”
Googles
“THEY PUT $80 RUM IN A PLASTIC BOTTLE WHAT THE FU - THIS IS NOT OKAY! YOU DON’T DO THAT TO RUM!!!
"Why is the rum gone?"
But RavenCrossguard, what about the $99 a year Fallout First subscription model? 🤣 ..It just keeps going.
@@Kwatcher100 because it flows into the space between the bottle and the cosmetic casing so you need to tear the casing off to drink more than a sixth of it.
And yes, I know that this is a Pirates of the Caribbean 1 reference.
@@TBone-bz9mp And the rum apparently sucks, especially bc of the strong af coconut flavor. You can get good rum in a nice bottle for way cheaper
If any of you haven't watched Internet Historian's "Fall Of '76" video yet, you should change that. Detailed and very funny.
Bethesda are quickly becoming the biggest joke in the gaming industry.
Yeah it's this video but made a few months ago, glad someone else is recommending it, it's a damned modern classic of a video essay.
They've been a joke since the PS3 version of skyrim debacle, hell, at one point Ol Todd there said that if players didn't stop complaining about not getting the DLC for months and months, they would just shut down the project trying to fix their shoddy code to get it to work with the PS3 at all. They've been anti consumer garbage for a long long time, but it took a bad game coming out to convince people to actually look for it.
I think it always was, 4 just cemented it and 76 took it to an impossible new level not even seen before.
And who could forget that 80$, well packaged, plastic bottle full of delicious $12 Nuka rum?
Cant belive he missed that one
Pepperridge Farm remembers...
Considering the rum maker's rum here normally sells for well over 80 bucks... Yeah fuck off with that. People got a nice prop and $100 rum for 80 bucks, that's not a bad deal. But anything to be seriously outraged over
@@natsume-hime2473 Hush. Stop shilling for a company that gives no shits about you. You don't get to tell people what they should and should not be angry about, and I'd be plenty fucking pissed if I'd bought that garbage.
@@natsume-hime2473 multiple alcohol experts drank the stuff, and said it was piss rum you can buy at the store for 10$. It was apparently massively over flavoured, making one guy almost spit it out
"They can always find another way to screw things up"
ONE
HUNDRED
DOLLAR
SUBSCRIPTION
It's better; One. Hundred. Dollar. Subscription... That's. Broken. 🤣"You're not using that scrap for anything right? And oop.. It's gone."
I really think Jim Sterling should do a sequel to this review, considering just how much worse it got. A post-post nuclear post-post mortem if you will!
Vivi pfp, nice.
I have a buddy that works at a textile factory, and he says that while Bethesda was claiming shortages of canvas, canvas prices were globally plummeting because of a massive excess of canvas!
I've read a bit about textiles, is it true that 20 yards of linen = one coat?
How would I know, I don't work in textiles haha
@@chlo_3 one might say that 10 yards of linen = 1 coat and that the coat is worth twice as much as the linen, in order to demonstrate the twofold character of the labor embodied in commodities
remember that time bethesda banned the only players who were actually playing it for having too much ammo and exploring and finding hidden areas
Yeah.... It's was just as stupid as the time Bioware banned that Twitch player because they used a glitch in a game that has no PVP and as far as I know, doesn't have any plans for it... What the heck is wrong with these developers and publishers?
C W there’s not enough paper to fill that book
The ammo was actually duped
No book required. One word - GREED
C.W. you wouldn't happen to be referring to the me3 rocket glitch would you?
Fun fact I wasted a whole bunch of my youth on me3s multiplayer maps. They used lootboxes of course so a common trick was to use this glitch to get infinites of an overpowered loot box consummable, go to the most difficult maps and use the infinite rockets to farm lootboxes.
Course bioware started banning players for using the glitch (to my knowledge it never actually got patched) however as long as everyone on the team had a certain online privacy setting unchecked, they couldn't find you. Moral of the story is me3s multiplayer sucks.
The transition to megalovania was so cursed
good job
Your continued coverage of the shipshow that is 76 just confirms my ‘wait and see’ was totally justified. Thank you for saving my time and money for me!
Hello from the future. It’s now free on PS4 Plus and it’s still probably not worth it
I believe this is the week the canvas bags will be shipped out, according to B. Its taking so long because Todd Howard has to personally fart into each one.
IrkMcSpamtroll argh! Just go to chili’s and you’ll be farting in those bags in one day.
I'd give you a like but you're currently on 76 and this pleases me.
@@Cook-by-the-book But that would cost money!
@@barleysixseventwo6665argh! who says tod has to pay with his own money?
@@shama6394 he's currently on 176 now, 100 times better.
Fallout 76 enters Alpha stage of development. *applause*
*prealpha
Alpha implies the game is engaging enough to not completely abandon.
Pre-alpha means it's a game (with a win condition and a lose condition).
@@manictiger Well then it's not even that. Everything is a lose condition.
@@vocalcalibration8033
Damn, Todd created a new type of... something. It's so bad it is its own category!
WOOOOOOOO YEAAAAAAHHHHH!!!
after the success of Skyrim, Tod's Ego burst into infinity
Fallout multiplayer should never be more robust than 1-4 player co-op.
thats all anyone ever wanted... too bad we live in this alternate reality where games are now meant to extract money from you as quick as they can be programmed to do
skyrim borderlands would be amazing.
@@alyssinclair8598 Hell yeah.
It shouldn't exist, at all.
Could you imagine how buggy and fucked a game would be if Bethesda tried to do the type of scripting in FO3, Skyrim, Oblivion etc that often breaks in single player (even with giant fan patches) but in multiplayer, with no ability to count on modders to fix the thing? Probably a big reason for 76 having basically nothing to do.
Bethesda: You think you want a single player Fallout, but you really don't.
Everyone else: Keeps playing New Vegas
How did you guess!?!? ARE YOU A WIZARD!?
@@themilkman9451 The wizennest!
I'm still playing Fallout 4. It's no New Vegas, but it's also no 76.
@@alaeriia01 that was there plan all along,make a worse fallout than 4 XD(i still enjoy 4 though)
Gizmo I mean to 4s credit, it definitely had by far the best gunplay of the series. Now if only it had more... fallout in it.
I was watching Bethesda's E3 Press Conference yesterday and all I could think was:
"Why are they cheering?"
EDIT: Holy damn, this is my most liked comment ever.
As incompetent as Bethesda is, people get excited at the bare minimum Bethesda does in the right direction.
From what I've heard, they gave the crowd a lot of alcohol and also a lot of the people in the audience were bethesda employees
This is what fanboyism does to you, next stop : blizzard fans!
Let's be real, they probably bought the loudest "enthusiasts" in the crowd.
@@thechugg4372 The same ones that openly booed at blizzcon?
Todd: We're adding NPC's.
Audience Hank Hills: I'm about to bust.
The "fallout" that made ESO 1.0 look like a masterpiece.
Is ESO worth a look now? The gf tried it years ago and (like many people) said it was crap. But I gather a lot has changed.
@@boiledelephant ESO is marvelous nowadays
@@boiledelephant it wasnt as bad as most people portrayed.
its a very good MMO now
@@LiquidfirePUA We can only hope that 76 does that... Doubt it immensely.
@@boiledelephant As someone that has played since PC beta, it's crazy how massively it's improved. It should have never launched in the state it was in, but they have done quite a good job fixing the faults and complaints. You can often get it for 10 bucks or so on steam (which is a shit ton of content for that price) and its easy to play without the optional sub or ever interacting with the "crown store" aka cash shop. Only time I ever sub to ESO plus is when they release their yearly "chapter" / expansion
That definitely not paid for crowd sure loved the show
Yes, they paid a crowd of thousands $1 each...
More likely people are just less intelligent than you give them credit for.
They're mostly industry people at E3, it's also a heavily shill-like environment. There was never going to be any backlash at E3, it's not the crowd that would ever give them grief for anything.
It's like expecting people to shit all over Donald Trump's business practices and shitty behavior at a trump rally. It's not the crowd that would care or even know. It's a "I'm just so happy to be here" crowd.
@@1R0QU012 seemed like a crowd of a couple dozen people at most who really made noise and exaggerated at every occasion. The rest quietly and politely clapped along if at all.
Or maybe these people were actually genuinely excited and hyped for these things. Fuck off with this stupid nihilism bullshit. Things are a lot better than you think.
@@Tobi638 yeah, stop it with your non-belief of god!
It is genuinely sad how many Fallout 76 players get angry at the absolute truth of its failure. It’s called justification of effort and it’s what people with buyers remorse use to feel better. It’s cult member like behavior.
I mean I got it now that it's a finished and descent game...... That him still shits on because like he has admitted in the past, he is very fucking petty and holds onto slights for years........
@@Sonichero151 lol....
Decent maybe but finished
Lmao
@@Sonichero151 Well this is just my opinion, but I don't think games should be forgiven for being released as a buggy glitch-fest sold at a full price. Because they could have always, you know, released it after it was actually a finished product and worth the cost. It's just slimy to sell a broken product with the pretense of it being a fully fleshed game.
Spoiler alert:
They figured out SOO MANY NEW WAYS TO MESS UP
"We aren't planning on doing anything about it" should be scrawled on Bethesda's tombstone when they finally go under.
Makes me sad. I really was a huge fan of Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim, even Fallout pre 76. I used to love them because despite their flaws, they made games that I greatly enjoyed. Now they just manufacture crap and expect us to swallow it.
@@Gotz_the_iron_hand Skyrim is Bethesda's Thriller (the album). The thing they will never reach ever again.
don't forget about the players that got banned for going in the developer room that they left WIDE open instead closing it off.
Superslug0
The players had to exploit their ways in with external modified scripts. Technically not WIDE open. But still a colossal fuck up. (Just making sure your fact checked for more Bethesda mockery.)
Me: "Why won't you stay dead!"
Fallout 76: _"Braaaaiiinz"_
Me: _Unloads several shots into Fallout 76, trying to kill it_
*Unfortunately for you, your real-time V.A.T.S. jumped from 100% to 0% before you unload your first shot*
FO76: "The fear within me is greater than anything your soul can create. You cannot kill me in any way that matters."
I was extremely pleased to see a still of "My Brother My Brother and Me" when talking about WV.
Now I want a Jim/McElroy crossover event!
All Bethesda helped prove was why it’s a bad idea to pre-order or buy games Day one in this day and age
I thought No Man's sky already proved that. Oh well. Gamers, Gamers never learn.
army6669990101 You would think they’d learn, but nope
As against pre-orders as I am, I may still pre-order cyberpunk 2077. But Bethesda? I think the only way I can stomach anything from them anymore is through a mean, sarcastic-sounding British voice. Thank God there's a decent one to handle that painful job.
@@shadowspider9 *people are sheep. Not just gamers right
If Aliens: Colonial Marines, No Man's Sky, and practically any modern title by EA, Activision, Ubisoft, WB, etc. didn't prove that already.
I don't want to engage with developers.
I want to engage with the game and other players.
Engaging with developers is fine. Engaging with the publishers, on the other hand.
I remember 15 years ago reading a PCPowerplay magazine interview with a mmo developer on the subject of microtransactions, who offered to buy items for players to increase ' company engagement with players', needless to say it was a creepy readthrough, and seeing what road the industry is on now.... I will agree with you. Leave us alone, let us play in peace.
Well they don't really want to engage with you either. Just your wallet!
@@MaddTheSane It's not fine when they interrupt my gameplay with "OH, THIS BOSS BATTLE IS EASIER IF YOU BUY THIS FOR 5 MILLION INGAME CURRENCY!"
Nearly five months down the line, and this game keeps finding new ways to collapse into a ditch and burst into flames.
How about that whole Nuka Dark Rum fiasco? IT is basically the Canvas Bag again. They have GOT to be doing this intentionally at some level.
Have I got some wonderful news for you from the future, its this beautiful $99 a year subscription service called Fallout First. 🤣 ..And obviously it launched completely broken. As is tradition.
It's like the How Quickly Can We Ruin Our Reputation challenge
I watched the Polygon stream and they got real tired of how blatantly the crowd was likely paid for
They relocated the entire Bethesda Austin to E3.
It was pretty much the same on Easy Allies. That crowd was not popular whatsoever with the group or the chat.
Admittedly i was there for Pat furiously telling the others to ignore that audience amd not meme them, because thats what bethesda wants
Yeah, it was pretty god damn over the top. Like standing ovations for random developers when they walk out? And standing ovations for an announcement about NPCs? give me a break
I doubt they were paid. Jim may have actually hit it on the head when he commented that they were probably drunk; as I've stated in another comment, a buddy of mine went to their 2017 press conference at E3 and he commented that, yes... they offer free food and booze.
Q: Did Bethesda pay their audience this year?
A: *WOOOOOOH YEAHHHHH*
lmao
Ha. Nah man, E3 is what circle jerks look like once they get so big they need to rent convention space.
More like they were just drunk, and the kind of people who would get drunk at a press conference.
There's still people buying FO76 microtransactions, do they even need to?
@@jasonc3a Except E3 used to be exciting, and video games used to have some semblance of soul left. This one is like a funeral. Blindly praising these companies in 2019 is stupid on a whole other level.
I know this an older video, but I just had to say: the reason this game was truly as much of a dumpster fire as it turned out to be is entirely due to the fact that it did not have the support of the modding community, a community that Bethesda, as much as they loathe its existence, has relied on time and time again to repair the broken messes they continue to shell out.
"untill Bethesda finds another way to mess this up" watching this after fallout one.... Yep
Wow; mailing Todd actual bobby pins is so delightfully petty.
It's fucking hillarious but.
Yeah... or, I don't know, a bullet lovingly engraved with his name. Maybe a little note that says, "There's only this one, I swear on your honor."
Hazukichan X wow, don’t cut anyone on all that AuTiStIc EdGe you have there!
Ha! Releasing a game in this state is delightfully petty
Something tells me that if Jason Schreier should ever get around to investigating Bethesda, we're gonna hear some very interesting and very...familiar stories from within.
Like crunch and worker abuse ?
Id rather get answers on EA a d Switch support first. But I would be interested in the inside look
@krspaceT1 what do you mean with Switch support? Did I miss something?
@@Sebastian_A_Var_Herman Basically the FIFA 20 on Switch this year is a legacy edition. Nintendo fans are not happy.
What if they got awesome development environment? And because there is no crunch, the quality is what it is. 😁
I'm afraid not even country roads are going to be able to take this one home
There's gonna be a live scorpion in every one of those belated canvas bags. But it's not a bug, it's a feature. xD
Fallout 76 was doomed to fail for a single, simple reason:
Asking your playerbase to be the NPCs of your games IS. NOT. SUSTAINABLE. You can't ask people to help other people get invested if they themselves aren't given anything to be invested in the first place.
I was one of those dudes that got FO76. Day one even. Matter of fact, I was one of those dumbfucks that bought the higher priced edition from the Bethesda store. The game had a lot wrong. Regarding the lack of NPCs it's quite jarring. FO1, 2, 3, New Vegas, and 4. They all got NPCs. They were all part of the charm that help make the setting, even in FO1. FO76 was strange because we got mountain loads of Raiders all over the place and not a single holdout of friendlier NPCs. Everything is hostile, there is no Good & Bad because everyone out there is Bad, i.e. "Red is Dead" and you need to kill it.
Map design for FO76 I felt was nice, but the world was dead. Even if you get a cluster of players to work together and build a community, you can't. Not the way the servers, the game works. *It's not persistent.*
There's lots of other things wrong, but this stuff is just the tip of the iceberg. The only relief was getting a refund, but I had to do it via the financial institution because Betheseda was refusing it because "I downloaded the game" from their fucking store.
@@Warmaker01 I have to agree. I don't like the Fallout franchise (the world doesn't appeal to me.) And yet, I seriously enjoyed Fallout 2 and New Vegas due to the quests and NPCs (Play Fallout 2 with the lowest intelligence possible. Seriously. It's AMAZING.)
No player is into roleplay to that extent... Unless some "fun" is involved.
People still play Skyrim & Fallout 4 because of their stellar modding communities. I used to think that expansion packs where a way for companies to stay connected to their player-base (fallout 3 had five of them), but I imagine that format isn't as profitable as 'live service'.
That, and the base games were still very very good and enjoyable. Not perfect technically, but vibrant and enjoyable.
"You dont get to make the joke this time, bethesda. This time you ARE the joke"
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
"That's one of the remarkable things about life: it's never so bad that it can't get any worse."
Bethesda: we have ebola for everyone and its available now for FREE!
Audience: WOOOO! WOA YEA! WE LOVE YOU TODD!
Todd know da wae
Pretty much. Whole audience was probably paid corporate "influencers" (read shills)
@@WastelandSeven - Paid in Atoms, just like a *"true"* *"long-time"* *""fan""* would!
@@BlueGreyWolf 500 Atoms for each ;)
Alternatively, black mold for $150.
love how they announced NPCs as a feature... a year later 76 gets a "feature" that has pretty much existed since gaming. Todd!
Only 2 years ago. Feels like a lifetime now.
7:56 Man that comparison of a hammer to a "retooled" hammer :') that killed me. Such a great image.
That conference was sixteen times the disappointment.
Sixteen times the *facepalm* 🙄
Sixteen times the shilling (frontrow)
Fallout 76 is what happens when they cut the modders out of the equation. The very same modders who actually fix the bugs, add decent content, and generally make the games playable.
valiroime All Bethesda games are horrible without mods
Cut out the modders? Ya'll know this is an online game... right?
@@leifanderson3487 Precisely. That's why making an online-only bethesda game is stupid.
And the only reason why people are still playing Skyrim and FO4 to date is... you guessed it... MODDERS!! But of course Bethesda doesn't acknowledge that!
And aren't we looking forward to the next Elder Scrolls now... I just know they'll do it right...
"Wastelanders-free for Fallout players" the screen said. We'll see...
Right? It’ll probably actually end up saying “free for all Fallout 1st players.”
Oh man, I worked at GameStop in the holiday season Fallout 76 was released. It was already preordered when I started the job, and when I left, it was already on the pre-owned shelves.
Can't believe that Jim would risk a Copyright strike/takedown by singing a perfect rendition of the Police Academy theme
Zortakable he usually uses a few different companies music or images that means many different companies end up launching a copyright strike that they all can’t win so nobody can’t take the money or win a strike.
@@chris9650 that's really smart. Why arent more people using this?
Sounds like a singing chicken. I approve.
@@chris9650 Ahhh the copyright deadlock technique!
It was a cover
Fallout 76: *Fails*
Literally nobody:
Bethesda: *"BATTLE ROYALE!!"*
Still nobody:
Totally Legit and Not-At-All Plant-Infested Crowd: WOOOOO!
Actually the new mode is pretty good
Seriously, it's better than Fortnite's and Apex Legends'. I'm fucking shocked how good it is. And the entire mode is free.
But everyone here is still on that hate-wagon, so they don't give a fuck. They're having too much fun hating a game they haven't played recently, or even at all.
@@leifanderson3487 dude just go home and shut up , i bought the game for 69,99€ and isntead of fixing the countless bugs like most of the challenges so you can't get atoms , daily quests bugged to oblivion I'll do 1 quest today and it only triggers again 1 week after ... not even gonna start on the ps4 textures not loading so you can pretty much shoot people trough walls in PvP but hey let's add a battle royal that will appease the sheep .....
@@sweetpoison8403 ps4 textures not loading? Sorry calling bullshit on that one as I never experienced that nor heard anyone else complain about it. Honestly I dont know why I still watch sterling. His videos have been nothing but hate mongering on every game he reviews lately. Just another Game Journalist cashing in on the hate fuel.
"Millions and millions of people play Skyrim and Fallout 4 every single day and we have no touch point with them"
Because you made a good game and didn't fill it with microtransactions.
If Fo4 and SR had microtransaction and always online bullshit nobody would be talking about them today.
I don't get how people can still defend this game and company
@Komrade Egg bank = heat = rep
Get all the fookin bank ye can get
I don't get how people can defend Fallout 76, but I get how they can defend Bethesda. I'll defend Bethesda, as I generally like their games, and Fallout 76 was *one* fuckup, I'm prepared to give them more than one strike, or else I'd just be a dick. Skyrim was my favorite game for YEARS, not anymore, but for YEARS, and Bethesda made that, so I can't begrudge them too much for 76.
And hey, remember when basically right after the duffel bag controversy, Bethesda got themselves into a Nuka Dark Rum controversy?
Also Jim, thank all the gayest gods, for you.
Anybody that thinks Bethesda itself had anything whatsoever to do with either that god damn bag or Nuka Dark clearly has no idea how marketing and production works. Let me ask you the question I've asked hundreds of times since November; do you think they have Todd Howard locked in a closet somewhere with a sewing machine?
Bethesda makes games. That's it. And contrary to what people think their involvement with either the bag or whatever else begins and ends with signing a check to a third party. And speaking from experience those third parties WILL fuck you over and there is NOTHING you can do about it. You can't "quality control" somebody else's business, and you can't spend all your time in a warehouse individually checking the contents of every box before they ship. Sooner or later you're just going to have to trust that the "professionals" you paid to produce your ancillary product aren't going to fuck you over. And the culture of big corporations fucking over their customers for short term profit or out of apathy doesn't go away just because said customer happens to be another corporation.
They can be and should only be blamed for the content on the disc. That is all they are actively involved in. The CONTENT on the disc. Not the bag, not the rum, not the case, not the booklet, not even the disc itself; just the ones and zeros. Period. If there is a problem with literally anything else then guess what; Bethesda got screwed over with that well before you did, and probably didn't even know about it until the complaints hit twitter. Bethesda didn't screw you over; that was just a side effect of some third party screwing THEM over.
@@arkhamcreed4326 ehmmm... billy, you're wrong. if, for example FOX gives aproval to a 3rd party toy manufacturer to make the simpsons merch... AND the product is a shitty lead painted homer...FOX, indeed is responsible (or IRRESPONSIBLE in this case) for allowing a crappy company to take care of their licensed product... and damaging their brand.
Disney is extremely careful with who they're giving licenses for their products.
Nintento (after lot's of awful 80's shows damaging their reputation) became extremely careful of who they allow to use licenses of their products.
YES, it is also bethesdas' responsability to make sure their lisenced products are UP to their brand standars EVEN if they didn't made em'... because that may damage their reputation (despite the crappy bottle fiasco, well, being up to their standards😓)
>You can't "quality control" somebody else's business, and you can't spend all your time in a warehouse individually checking the contents of every box before they shipstop
stop being pathetic and a corp-apologist, because the aforementioned disney & nintendo INDEED send corresponsals to check how their 3rd party lincensed product are being made. or at least ask for the product (or prototipes, as a way of testing that the 3rd party is capable of) weeks before it ships to the average joe en-mass. yes, responsible corporations DO THAT.
@@arkhamcreed4326 If Bethesda indeed was "screwed over by a 3rd-party", why would they respond with something like "we're aware, and we're not going to do anything"? Surely, if Bethesda contracted the manufacturer for canvas bags and received nylon bags, they'd have grounds to sue for breach of contract?
@@theALTF4 The original creator always gets a say in products and marketing. George R. R. Martin has talked about how every time someone made a board game or toy line etc from A Song of Ice and Fire he got to see the products, use them and had the final say on whether the products got shipped to consumers. Bethesda certainly did that too.
If they were smart "business people" they would have at least put something at the bottom saying product subject to change or not representative of final product or something like that. The idea that people don't control the products related to its properties is ridiculous.
I swear there were genuinely paid actors in that crowd. People were more hysterical than after TESVI's reveal.
There must be
"And now you can play blades o...." *WOOOOOOOO* *YEAHHH!!!*
Dude, in all audiences there are paid actors. E3 is a huge commercial...
Maybe not paid, but given free shit like the canvas bag situation.
You could actually hear at one point the larger crowd laughing at the smaller crowd cheering for basically nothing. Swear on my left foot.
This will need another update after the subscription saga comes to a close.
Great vid, Jim.
Toe Jam would come after Todd Howard though.
Awww. You didn't mention the Nuka-Rum bit.
The man only had so much time and 76's sins are lengthy indeed.
Can't copy Internet Historians video wholesale I guess.
In fairness, Nuka Dark wasn't Bethesda's fault. The production of the rum and the bottles was entirely outsourced to Silver Screen bottling company, so Bethesda didn't really have too much of a say until it was too late.
@@samuelcolt7034 that's not how this works, if you give a company a part of your IP you should watch them like a hawk, that's what most companies do. They were fully aware of this and had every ability to control it but the company, or Zenimax let's be honest about this, said "hey custom glass bottles are a little expensive, plastic isn't though".
@@samuelcolt7034 Who's decision was it to outsource the production of the bottles though? Bethesda had all the say...it's their IP, they had the approval/veto rights on all the decisions made by Silver Screen so...
I think we can all agree " the fall of 76" by internet historian was the best recap of this cluster f**k but I still come to Jim for genius phrases like "Bethetic"
I pretty much like Internet Historian's explanation best of any fiasco he chooses to bless us with.
Jesus Christ that video is so god damn entertaining
That video and this one are legendary in their own ways. Time to rewatch them both again!!!!
That hard cut to Homer Simpson's face at 15:28 made me fucking choke. Lmao. Especially in the context of Bethesda going bananas with patches.
Did people finally get their canvas bags?
There's a reason people still play Skyrim and Fallout 4...because they were made as games,that people could play,and enjoy.Not constant revenue streams.
Fallout 4 was broken and shit i had to sell it to buy another game.
@@geraltofrivia4936 Not really any more or less broken than any other bethesda game
Please dear god get Fallout New Vegas
Skyrim was buggy as hell. It can only be functional with mods.
People bitched about New Vegas when it came out.
People bitched about Skyrim when it came out.
People bitched about ESO when it came out.
People bitched about Fallout 4 when it came out.
And now people are bitching about Fallout 76.
One day, people will start talking about how great Fallout 76 is just so they can bitch about Fallout 5.
Because bitching... bitching never changes.
500 atoms might be little in the atom shop but Jim... Light wood laminate. Light wood laminate! LIGHT WOOD LAMINATE!
Fuck yeeeah! I'm gonna get 18th of the whatever power armor!
"I'm going to make videogames and everyone will play them!
You dork... Go back to the chess club.
Well who's laughing now!?"
Everyone is, Todd. Everyone is laughing, at you and Bethesda.
@Luis Martinez I'm not poor, and even if I were, I'd rather be poor than him honestly
Gotta love the Jesters of the moon theme from FFIX
Perfect video
Always remember about the repair kit situation, they nerfed abilities that slowed item degradation just before implementing them without telling anyone.
ya rly, never needed black titanium before to repair my combat armor, but now all of a sudden?... and in such quantities?
@@rfonseca9625 or ballistic fiber for the trapper armors. Main reason I chose that armor as my end game kit and then suddenly I needed ballistic fiber again
@Long duk dong i wouldnt say the game is complete garbage but theyre def using trash tactics in designing (gotta love them timers lol!)
"Police Academy 76" - Thank God for Jim!
He killed me at that joke
That was great.