So after 2 hours of trying to understand the terminology of the "manual" I googled for instructions and this wonderful video showed up, i really hope that Ink bird pays you for each person who uses this video for the setup. Thank you very much
Thank You So Much George! All I needed was one simple explanation (out of this maze - which the manual did not provide) but *You did* awesome sir. I am using ITC-100 as my temperature controller, I've connected a washing machine heating element to the RC as my heating source which I am using to warm up a body of water in a metal container in which a bucket of solidified honey is sitting. The crucial piece I was missing was to set the 'run' function to *Automatic* Bingo!! Your Clarity of explanation is Top Notch! Thanks Again George!🙏
Just finished building my PID last night and I did a test run with water in my still. Amazing to watch it work. Looking forward to running my rum wash later this week using the PID controller. Thanks for all of your help George!
Awesome tutorial, but i have a 100VL which has a different menu/settings/ and symbols. Some of the menu system is similar which was a huge help in figuring out at least half of my controller.
Thank you for doing this. I build an oven for heat treating steel. It will operate around 1550 degrees F. Now all I have to do is figure out this controller and what you have put out here I hope will get rid of my head ache, lol.
Finished my first PID assembly and settings/parameters setup; it's working great! For the settings, I watched your video, and marked on the instruction sheet what settings you use or underlined what the settings should be. At least that way I have a hard copy of what I want if I mess something up later. You made this easy. Finding the parts, cutting, layout, everything you need is in your videos. It doesn't matter to me how long your videos are, you make it so anyone can understand what needs to be done, and how to do it - at least one way to do it easily. Don't let the nay-sayers get you down. Happy distilling!
Built and programmed controller as per your instructions. IT WORKS GREAT. Thanks for your instructions. I also used a glass with a lot of ice and little water, let it sit for 15 minutes, inserted my probe and it read 32.5 degrees F.. I also checked the upper limit with boiling water, as you suggested. Thanks again.
Incredibly well done instructions! Thank you. Could you elaborate on how to use the Autotune setting? You skipped over it to use PID instead of AT. My heat treat oven needs a little finer control than the settings that you suggested.
Brilliant thank you, this helped me setup my Inkbird IPB 16-S which is effectively the same PID I guess, best instructional Inkbird video on the internet by far.
I set my PID controller exactly has you said and it works great. Thank you! Now I did all you that you said, but I do not understand why these values are to be what they are. It would be very enlightening if you explain this a bit more. Your explanation was great, thank you again.
I wanted a better controller for my smoker. I looked into a PID controller but was overwhelmed by the complexity. Once I found your channel and heard your explanation of a PID, I ordered an Inkbird controller and set it up. You took the fear out of the whole process. The company should have you write the instruction page. You provide a great service. Thanks for all you do! Jeff
Thank you for this video. I’ve got one of these on an injection moulding machine and for some reason I can’t change the set value. it just has a decimal place the blinks on the right hand side when you press the up and down keys. So I’m hoping some of your guidance on the menus will help me resolve this issue.
Awesome series of videos. Thank you. There is a setting that may have an obvious answer but not to me. Hit the set button once an a100 display appears. The number is adjustable from 0-100 and I assume that it is a power adjustment but am not sure. Can you clear up what the function of this setting is. Tia.
Thank you for this video. I used it to get up and running. I have one thing that I'd like to do. I'm using the inkbird to operate a water pump on my heating system. I would like to turn the pump on when the water gets to 130 degrees F and shut off at 150 degrees. I'm operating in on/Off mode. I tried to set the P value but it didn't seem to work.
Hi George. Thank you for this video, it seems to be the only one that explains the setup, so thank you! I have my 106vh wired and setup for homebrewing beer, but am having one issue. When I set the SC (-65) verified against two other temp probes at 120°F, then change the temp to 130 for example the actual temps reach 131.5, and the higher I raised the temp, the more its off. Anyway to fix this?
Does the mypin have the option somewhere for manual mode to set the percentage of power that goes to the elements or is that only available on the inkbird.
Hi George, I have watched your clip and I enjoyed your way of presenting the PID set up details. I am just in the beginning, but what I am interested is the "ramp an soak" set up by use of a PID controller. So, could the 106V controller be used for a ramp and soak controlling of a ceramic kiln?
I listened to your video on how to set up the Inkbird PID. Initially everything looked fine. I changed the factory set parameters to what you had suggested. Went back to the initial screen and the PV value reads 528 instead of 20. I am using a K TC, pulled one lead off the PID and put it back on but it is still reading 528 and it appears to fluctuate as if it is sensing temperature. But the TC is sitting on the bench. Is there a factory setting I changed that caused this problem?
Great video! Thank you for hat you do! I just finished my PID. Is there a way to factory reset the settings and start over again? My PID’s light isn’t blinking when it gets close to temp. Also, I’m using mine for a smoker if that makes any difference. Thank you in advance!
Thanks for this run through. I'm planning on using an Inkbird PID controller for 120 V controller of an aluminum foundry that I'm building. So far, I'm just hardwired for 1/4 output to dry out the refractory. My next step is to be able to trust that I'm getting a trustworthy reading from my thermocouple!
Great video. I am wondering do I need a special contactor. The one I used is just a typical contactor. 240v but when it gets to 3 degrees of set point it cycles on and off which I'm afraid will burn the contactor prematurely. Any help is appreciated
Thanks for this walkthrough. I installed this PID on my single boiler espresso machine with a desired temperature around 98c. Can I use your proposed settings of P:1, I: 540, d: 200. Because I have heard from other espresso PID users advised that values should be around the following: P: 15-25, I:10-40 and D: 1-3 (near to zero). I am interested in the differences in configuration. A am curious to hear your vision. Currently (Ctl:4, P:18, I:35, D:8) the machine overshoots 16c and undershoots 6c. Thanks for advice
Would you possibly be willing to outline the specific settings you use and recommend for beer brewing using a RIMS tube type recirc mash? I’m having issues with overshoot and have tried multiple times to auto tune. TIA.
I bought a PID controller from you George. I just went through the video again and set all perimeters to what you said. My controller always fluctuates about 7-10 degrees up and down during a run. Not understanding why. My D is set at 200. Any advice would be helpful. I also have to change the df to 0.1 each time. Have a great day
Hey there, I loved the video, it was very helpful. But I have a small issue right now. I am building a small kiln, I have got everything set up, I am using a SSR and Kenthal coils as a heat source. I connected a door switch and It all turned up grate. I programmed my controller exactly like you showed in the video but when I turned it on the display shows some strange things (the “ALM” and “RUN” LEDs turns on and off as long as the “OUT” LED) and the voltage on the coils runs on 220V for a sec and then goes to 0V for like 6 sec, and the temperature is far from the wanted temperature. I have no idea what to do and I will love some help. Thanx a lot
Hi, Great video. Just got one of these to retrofit on my Rancillio Silvia espresso machine. It's working Ok but trying to tune up the PID values better. The autotune function works but I think I can get it much better as I tune PID controllers at work in a chemical plant. My question is: What are the units for P, I and D on these? For example, is I seconds, 1/sec, etc. The manual doesn't say.
I've got this PID controller wired up to 2-40 watt ceramic heat bulbs for my home made incubator. I used your settings here. The controller is over shooting and undershooting 2 degrees from set temp of 99.5 fereinheight. Is there a way to fine tune this more? Thanks for the video!!
can I test the still with just water? plugged it in put water in the kettle and set the PID for 100F. the kettle gets to 200 or a little more but the 2" reflux still never gets past 74 or 75. concerning to me. I have always ran this same still on Propane without any issues, but that was always with a Mash or sugar wash. not with just water. Any advice?
We have the inkbird 106rh operating Asco valves on our brewstand for brewing beer. We are using the on/off feature so as not to have the propane going on and off so frequently. The problem we are having is the lag of reading and displaying temp. Is there any way to remove the lag on what it is reading on a K type probe?
Absolutely incredible and informative. I just built my PID for my BBQ smoker element. It works great! One question - the smoker cabinet is so well insulated it overshoots my SV of 200° by +25° initially. It's so well insulated and apparently the element is so efficient once it overshoots it'll take 10-15 minutes to cool back down to 200° then it will maintain that temp until it's time to open the door. Once I do, the +25° overshoot cycle happens again. Any PID parameters to help control this overshoot?
@@Acribus1 I did play with settings I found in some other pages. This helped a lot. I also had a lot of flickering and flashing of my patio lights which were in the same circuit with the suggested settings from this page. Whatever I changed definitely reducted the on/off frequency so the flickering is less annoying and the temp doesn't overshoot initially by 20°. Next time I get it out I will look at what they are and send a reply.
First off, GREAT VIDEOS!!! I purchased this PID for my espresso machine, so i‘ll be using this for a heat PID. I wanted to verify the accuracy of the temperature of the PID and thermocouple combination.Would I use a boiling hot bath or ice water bath to adjust my calibration offset?Thanks for your time!!!
I used both ice water and boiling water to check my system. I used a lot of ice and a little water, let it sit for 15 minutes to stabilize, inserted the probe and it read 32.5 degrees F.. On the boiling water test I previously had set my Calibration Offset (SC) to +4 degrees. As a reminder, check your altitude to determine water boiling point.
I set up the parameters exactly this way but my boil stops and temp is not held. It probably has about a three degree swing, when Im over sp power turns off as it should bit boiling stops at that point as well. Power kicks back on about 2.5° under sp, boiling starts again and this is the loop.... Heeeelp
Auto-Tune? Im setting up a 1800w countertop commercial Pizza oven im modding for PID .. its working but ive not used inkbird but now I boughgt one since they seem to get good reviews ! i have a few fancier programmable PIDs of different brand I dont need for this.. just want to control temps and get em there quickly as i can and stable for baking things
Is hysteris the setting for the degrees in temp between on and off? For example, if I want a 5 degree high/low swing from my set temp, do I set hysteris to 5?
Hi George.Just wondering if you could kindly help me in regards to stilling.I stilled a wash 1 day ago. Watered it down to 35%. Gave a taste test today,, tastes & smells like metholated spirits.What have I done wrong?
I'm using this controller cooling. is there a way to lengthen the cycle time or loop ? the blower motor on my chiller keeps cycling on and off. Any help you might provide would be greatly appreciated.
So after 2 hours of trying to understand the terminology of the "manual" I googled for instructions and this wonderful video showed up, i really hope that Ink bird pays you for each person who uses this video for the setup.
Thank you very much
Thank You So Much George! All I needed was one simple explanation (out of this maze - which the manual did not provide) but *You did* awesome sir.
I am using ITC-100 as my temperature controller, I've connected a washing machine heating element to the RC as my heating source which I am using to warm up a body of water in a metal container in which a bucket of solidified honey is sitting. The crucial piece I was missing was to set the 'run' function to *Automatic* Bingo!!
Your Clarity of explanation is Top Notch! Thanks Again George!🙏
hello from Puerto Rico im so thankful for this kind of masterclass you bring to us waoo so helpful god bless you man
This video is amazing! Made it so easy. The whole series made this painless and fun.
Totally agree!
George. Happy distilling. I just wanted to say you vids are still helping. And I hope you are having a happy life.
Incredibly helpful. Thank you for explaining the context of the settings on each "page" of the book! Well done.
I’ve been looking for this video!! Thanks George. Happy Distilling!
Thank you. I needed that info on the settings.
Thanks so much for this excellent walk through. Helped me tremendously!
Thanks George for all the videos and information.
Thank You. You explain everything clearly so it makes following along easy & stress free! Much Appreciate!!
Thanks George I just finished my PID build will be using it soon thanks my friend for great info Cheers!!!
You actually managed to help me understand the basics of PID. Well done!
Still relevant and useful, thanks for all the help George.
Hi George, I just built my first PID controller with the help of your videos, and it's working great. Thanks so much for the great content!
I literally just received my inkbird in the mail 2 days ago. Perfect timing!
Very Nice channel. Thank you George.
What an amazing video! Very easy and informative, thank you so much for your work!
Just finished building my PID last night and I did a test run with water in my still. Amazing to watch it work. Looking forward to running my rum wash later this week using the PID controller. Thanks for all of your help George!
Wow. This was phenomenal, and so instructive. Thank you!
Easy, straightforward explanation of what is for me, a sometimes confusing topic. Thanks George...
Your video on how to wire, and this video made for a seamless install and set up. Thank you!
Awesome tutorial, but i have a 100VL which has a different menu/settings/ and symbols.
Some of the menu system is similar which was a huge help in figuring out at least half of my controller.
Thanks George completed my PID today with alot of your help much appreciated 🙏
Thanks George, I haven't used mine in a while and I can't find the manual. Once again you are a great help
Great VIdeo. I wish I someone like you to go through the settings on my VFD now.
Huge help sir. Can't wait to get mine up and working.
Very helpful George! Thanks!!!
Beautifully explained. Thanks
Wow! You are a perfect teacher! Thanks a lot!
I just finished my 20 gallon 220 30 amp from a dryer plug. Thank you George without these videos I never would have figured it out👍👍
Glad to help
So very helpful as always. Thank you for taking the time to do these fantastic video's Cheers from Scotland :)
Thank you for doing this. I build an oven for heat treating steel. It will operate around 1550 degrees F. Now all I have to do is figure out this controller and what you have put out here I hope will get rid of my head ache, lol.
Thank you !!! This was a Huge help and put very well together.
Finished my first PID assembly and settings/parameters setup; it's working great! For the settings, I watched your video, and marked on the instruction sheet what settings you use or underlined what the settings should be. At least that way I have a hard copy of what I want if I mess something up later. You made this easy. Finding the parts, cutting, layout, everything you need is in your videos. It doesn't matter to me how long your videos are, you make it so anyone can understand what needs to be done, and how to do it - at least one way to do it easily. Don't let the nay-sayers get you down. Happy distilling!
Watching this before work and I'm excited to get home to finally program the PID & have it working as it can!
Yes, excited to get into the PID lol.
Built and programmed controller as per your instructions. IT WORKS GREAT. Thanks for your instructions. I also used a glass with a lot of ice and little water, let it sit for 15 minutes, inserted my probe and it read 32.5 degrees F.. I also checked the upper limit with boiling water, as you suggested. Thanks again.
Incredibly well done instructions! Thank you. Could you elaborate on how to use the Autotune setting? You skipped over it to use PID instead of AT. My heat treat oven needs a little finer control than the settings that you suggested.
Brilliant thank you, this helped me setup my Inkbird IPB 16-S which is effectively the same PID I guess, best instructional Inkbird video on the internet by far.
I set my PID controller exactly has you said and it works great. Thank you! Now I did all you that you said, but I do not understand why these values are to be what they are. It would be very enlightening if you explain this a bit more. Your explanation was great, thank you again.
I wanted a better controller for my smoker. I looked into a PID controller but was overwhelmed by the complexity. Once I found your channel and heard your explanation of a PID, I ordered an Inkbird controller and set it up. You took the fear out of the whole process. The company should have you write the instruction page. You provide a great service. Thanks for all you do! Jeff
dude, you are an unsung HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!, thanks
Excellent tutorial! Who says learning can't be fun.
MERCI BEAUCOUP cela ma aider ÉNORMÉMANT très bien présenter
Mr George you are awesome
Awesome video! I have one question. Is there any need to run the "At" or self tune under the oP menu?
so glad you didn't take this video down
You’re great to listen too not too funny but casually and you’re slow wich is so important when explaining
Thank you for this tutorial
Thank you for this video.
Great information in the video!
How do I run this PID but use it only when the RUN is manually turned in?
Thank you for this video. I’ve got one of these on an injection moulding machine and for some reason I can’t change the set value. it just has a decimal place the blinks on the right hand side when you press the up and down keys. So I’m hoping some of your guidance on the menus will help me resolve this issue.
Awesome series of videos. Thank you. There is a setting that may have an obvious answer but not to me. Hit the set button once an a100 display appears. The number is adjustable from 0-100 and I assume that it is a power adjustment but am not sure. Can you clear up what the function of this setting is.
Tia.
Been using a PID for 12 runs, finally hit the right button and it runs right finally
Can you expand on this? Constantly having issues with mine overshooting by like 20degrees or burning out relays.
Thank you for this video. I used it to get up and running. I have one thing that I'd like to do. I'm using the inkbird to operate a water pump on my heating system. I would like to turn the pump on when the water gets to 130 degrees F and shut off at 150 degrees. I'm operating in on/Off mode. I tried to set the P value but it didn't seem to work.
Hi George. Thank you for this video, it seems to be the only one that explains the setup, so thank you! I have my 106vh wired and setup for homebrewing beer, but am having one issue. When I set the SC (-65) verified against two other temp probes at 120°F, then change the temp to 130 for example the actual temps reach 131.5, and the higher I raised the temp, the more its off. Anyway to fix this?
Thanks George
Does the mypin have the option somewhere for manual mode to set the percentage of power that goes to the elements or is that only available on the inkbird.
Hi George, I have watched your clip and I enjoyed your way of presenting the PID set up details. I am just in the beginning, but what I am interested is the "ramp an soak" set up by use of a PID controller. So, could the 106V controller be used for a ramp and soak controlling of a ceramic kiln?
Very similar to my inkbird menu but with more options on yours here. 😎
I listened to your video on how to set up the Inkbird PID. Initially everything looked fine. I changed the factory set parameters to what you had suggested. Went back to the initial screen and the PV value reads 528 instead of 20. I am using a K TC, pulled one lead off the PID and put it back on but it is still reading 528 and it appears to fluctuate as if it is sensing temperature. But the TC is sitting on the bench. Is there a factory setting I changed that caused this problem?
Great video! Thank you for hat you do! I just finished my PID. Is there a way to factory reset the settings and start over again? My PID’s light isn’t blinking when it gets close to temp. Also, I’m using mine for a smoker if that makes any difference. Thank you in advance!
Hey George, everything you are saying is true, I am a dummy and successfully made this work.
I admit I did trip 2 X.
3rd X bing..!
Thanks for this run through. I'm planning on using an Inkbird PID controller for 120 V controller of an aluminum foundry that I'm building. So far, I'm just hardwired for 1/4 output to dry out the refractory. My next step is to be able to trust that I'm getting a trustworthy reading from my thermocouple!
Thank you
Can someone explain how the inkbird manual mode works. Thanks
Great video. I am wondering do I need a special contactor. The one I used is just a typical contactor. 240v but when it gets to 3 degrees of set point it cycles on and off which I'm afraid will burn the contactor prematurely. Any help is appreciated
This video saved my ass George thank you!
Thanks for this walkthrough. I installed this PID on my single boiler espresso machine with a desired temperature around 98c. Can I use your proposed settings of P:1, I: 540, d: 200. Because I have heard from other espresso PID users advised that values should be around the following: P: 15-25, I:10-40 and D: 1-3 (near to zero). I am interested in the differences in configuration. A am curious to hear your vision. Currently (Ctl:4, P:18, I:35, D:8) the machine overshoots 16c and undershoots 6c. Thanks for advice
I love you for this
Would you possibly be willing to outline the specific settings you use and recommend for beer brewing using a RIMS tube type recirc mash? I’m having issues with overshoot and have tried multiple times to auto tune. TIA.
You’ve been instrumental in getting my first PID set up. Thank you so much. Is this available in a print version?
Thank you thank you thank you
George, this is an awesome video but do you have one on setting up the Inkbird 100 PID?
Likely doesn’t apply to those fine Texas types...but would setting the offset to compensate for altitude adjustment be worthwhile?
thank you sir
This was excellant good for the InkBird...can you do this with the MyPin TA-4? It would be nice...I thank you.
I bought a PID controller from you George. I just went through the video again and set all perimeters to what you said. My controller always fluctuates about 7-10 degrees up and down during a run. Not understanding why. My D is set at 200. Any advice would be helpful. I also have to change the df to 0.1 each time. Have a great day
Hi George,Iam in the process of building one and this explanation is very useful,but I missed how set point is enter.Thanks
thank you thank you thank you!!
Hey there, I loved the video, it was very helpful. But I have a small issue right now.
I am building a small kiln, I have got everything set up, I am using a SSR and Kenthal coils as a heat source. I connected a door switch and It all turned up grate. I programmed my controller exactly like you showed in the video but when I turned it on the display shows some strange things (the “ALM” and “RUN” LEDs turns on and off as long as the “OUT” LED) and the voltage on the coils runs on 220V for a sec and then goes to 0V for like 6 sec, and the temperature is far from the wanted temperature.
I have no idea what to do and I will love some help.
Thanx a lot
Hi, Great video. Just got one of these to retrofit on my Rancillio Silvia espresso machine. It's working Ok but trying to tune up the PID values better. The autotune function works but I think I can get it much better as I tune PID controllers at work in a chemical plant. My question is: What are the units for P, I and D on these? For example, is I seconds, 1/sec, etc. The manual doesn't say.
Did you ever get an answer? I need to know as well, I and D are in seconds, what unit is P? thx
Great info thanks George. Pity UTube is forcing so many ads into your videos now days. Us guys with slow, expensive internet really take strain.
Great instructional video. I'm having a problem tho. My temperature goes down when it gets hotter. Did I wire or program something wrong?
You have the probe wires backwards. They are polarity specific. If you connect it backwards it reads backwards. Switch the red and black wires.
Thanks man
I've got this PID controller wired up to 2-40 watt ceramic heat bulbs for my home made incubator. I used your settings here. The controller is over shooting and undershooting 2 degrees from set temp of 99.5 fereinheight. Is there a way to fine tune this more? Thanks for the video!!
can I test the still with just water? plugged it in put water in the kettle and set the PID for 100F. the kettle gets to 200 or a little more but the 2" reflux still never gets past 74 or 75. concerning to me. I have always ran this same still on Propane without any issues, but that was always with a Mash or sugar wash. not with just water. Any advice?
My controller has a run light. Do I have to press something to make it run? Or, once I plug it in and increase the temp, does it automatically run?
We have the inkbird 106rh operating Asco valves on our brewstand for brewing beer. We are using the on/off feature so as not to have the propane going on and off so frequently. The problem we are having is the lag of reading and displaying temp. Is there any way to remove the lag on what it is reading on a K type probe?
Absolutely incredible and informative. I just built my PID for my BBQ smoker element. It works great! One question - the smoker cabinet is so well insulated it overshoots my SV of 200° by +25° initially. It's so well insulated and apparently the element is so efficient once it overshoots it'll take 10-15 minutes to cool back down to 200° then it will maintain that temp until it's time to open the door. Once I do, the +25° overshoot cycle happens again. Any PID parameters to help control this overshoot?
I have the same thing happening to mine. Did you figure it out?
@@Acribus1 I did play with settings I found in some other pages. This helped a lot. I also had a lot of flickering and flashing of my patio lights which were in the same circuit with the suggested settings from this page. Whatever I changed definitely reducted the on/off frequency so the flickering is less annoying and the temp doesn't overshoot initially by 20°. Next time I get it out I will look at what they are and send a reply.
@@JodiandRich Thank you :) I appreciate it.
Will the 106vh 240 volt run a 3600 watt element with a large heatsink installed George. Cheers mate
Could I get more information on lowering the power output using the "output setting-Operation mode" on the Inkbird 106VH?
Can you wire up two 40amp SSR’s to one PID controller. I want run four burners two off one SSR and two off another for my powder coating oven
First off, GREAT VIDEOS!!!
I purchased this PID for my espresso machine, so i‘ll be using this for a heat PID. I wanted to verify the accuracy of the temperature of the PID and thermocouple combination.Would I use a boiling hot bath or ice water bath to adjust my calibration offset?Thanks for your time!!!
I used both ice water and boiling water to check my system. I used a lot of ice and a little water, let it sit for 15 minutes to stabilize, inserted the probe and it read 32.5 degrees F.. On the boiling water test I previously had set my Calibration Offset (SC) to +4 degrees. As a reminder, check your altitude to determine water boiling point.
I have this one also on my epsresso machine but on recovery it overshoots 20c. How did you configured the PID values?
I set up the parameters exactly this way but my boil stops and temp is not held. It probably has about a three degree swing, when Im over sp power turns off as it should bit boiling stops at that point as well. Power kicks back on about 2.5° under sp, boiling starts again and this is the loop.... Heeeelp
Auto-Tune? Im setting up a 1800w countertop commercial Pizza oven im modding for PID .. its working but ive not used inkbird but now I boughgt one since they seem to get good reviews ! i have a few fancier programmable PIDs of different brand I dont need for this.. just want to control temps and get em there quickly as i can and stable for baking things
Is hysteris the setting for the degrees in temp between on and off? For example, if I want a 5 degree high/low swing from my set temp, do I set hysteris to 5?
Hi George, can you please explain the settings for schimaden fp93 controller
Hi George.Just wondering if you could kindly help me in regards to stilling.I stilled a wash 1 day ago. Watered it down to 35%. Gave a taste test today,, tastes & smells like metholated spirits.What have I done wrong?
I'm using this controller cooling. is there a way to lengthen the cycle time or loop ? the blower motor on my chiller keeps cycling on and off. Any help you might provide would be greatly appreciated.