There is a suggestion to drop gender separation and then divide into a type of classing of ability. That would definitely insult women in many many sports. On average, and at elite sports, men are faster, stronger, quicker and will go a further distance in what I think is most sport. So women will have representation at the elite level. Men and women should be different catagories and transgenders should all be in with men or have a completely different event with no government assistance.
@@paigehere5176 1 yes everyone is saying that saw your deleted comment 2 the point that men are the dominant ones at everything, from cooking, horse riding and all other kinds of activities
The male dominated patriarchy is denying female players faster serves. Those male tennis players exhibit crazy amounts of toxic masculinity, how dare they exert their fullest level of competence on the job?
I mean, who is claiming that the fact men are physically stronger than women is socially constructed...? Satire doesn’t really work if you don’t even listen properly to/comprehend the argument you’re mocking lol
That will only happen on games where his 1st serve percentage is low though. This video is stupid because the specific serves it shows would typically have beaten even the likes of Djokovic.
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space0d oh yeah not send a 200mph ball to a woman is suCh a chivalrous thing to do. oh wow! thank u for doing the bare minimum expected of u wowowow men r amazing for choosing not to hit women when they can choose not too?! wowowowo
I remember reading how Isner's kick serves at the University of Georgia would literally jump into the fence making it impossible for receivers to touch it. The trajectory was just absurd.
A lot of players are catching up with the glitch nowadays. Cheat code: "I identify as a female" - only work for male players though. Not sure when they're gonna provide the security patch though...
Lol remember when Serena said she could beat any man at like top 50 or whatever then the out of his prime and out of shape 40 year old ranked 200+ 40 year old guy completely demolished her and her sister without breaking a sweat
@@sirlightning3920 and? Girls are physically mature at 16 They literally start going down hill at 19 (A 19 year old female has the lungs of a 50 year old man- and it just gets worse for them from there)
Lets be real guys, this serves were 75/80% of his best, this was a joke, and for anyone that thinks that maybe WTA player can beat ATP player, you're out if your mind.
i dont think shed beat any man on the pro tour TBH. maybe if theres someone with both an extremely basic serve and very little spin in his groundstrokes within that 1000-2000, shed may have a shot. otherwise im not seeing it. the average shot on the mens tour is just so much heavier, the women cant handle that spin because they never play against it and so they dont really practice against it either. if you really wanted to see how a top WTA player could rank against professional men youd have to have her actually practice specifically for that for several months at least, and obviously no ones going to do that.
serena and venus lost a match against a german atp pro male player back in 1998 .each of them played a set against him. the pro male player was ranked 203 at the time.they thought they can win a match over a male whos rank is somewhere around 200 after they saw them practicing. the final result was 6-1 6-2 . obviosly they cant win a match against a top 100 atp player
also, the way he tells it, karsten braasch (the guy they played against) wasnt even trying. it simply doesnt make sense to try and compare ATP to WTA players
i see mixed doubled tennis games similar to how Federer plays. Many players targeted his one hand backhand as the weakest part of his game reasonably...however, the style itseld is beautiful to watch and whenever he makes a one-hand backhand winner after the struggles it is worth celebrating. I think it is just understood that half the team in mixed doubles aren't as strong and so there is a complementary aspect that makes watching it quite fun.
To be fair, Isner is an acing machine even against ATP players. There's a reason he was involved in long matches all the time. Nobody can break his serve.
This is like playing against someone in mortal kombat who spams the same button over and over to prevent you from even getting up; eventually leading to them winning, I love it.
Yes. But if Serena had the upper body strength and height of male players she would wipe the floor with them anyway, as mentally-wise they're all weaklings compared to her. Watching men like him take pride in something as meritless as being taller and having more upper body strength than female players gives me 2nd hand embarrassment; it's pathetic.
@@thomasdendtler4077 By people I mean the funny looking academic world that says obesity is healthy and live in a rainbow world. 😂😂 And yeah, I know iam right.
@@ConnorC97 the top 300 ranked mam beat the top ranked female player 6-1 then 6-0. It's estimated that the greatest female player would rank in the 700s, of mens college rankings
It's very different though, women go for broke on every shot, men do not, they generally build up the point more. I would like to see men go for broke every shot, I don't think any would reach Serena's accuracy. But yeah, no female is gonna beat a man with great stamina and a solid serve. I don't think anyone with a medium serve like say Goffin would be able to bagel Serena though, she would likely still win her service games rather easily because her serve might be slower than a mens serve, it has a lot more accuracy than a mens serve.
Yes. Oxford Dictionary: "Either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones."
this is why when we talk about records, we're automatically talking about MEN'S records. No one gives a shit if serena has more GS than Federer because the level of competition on the men's side is INSANELY higher..
To be fair, Isner's kick serve would probably kick above most players' overhead reach. I once remember a stat where a first serve kicked up 2.25 m or nearly 7'5", so the second is surely much worse.
Chris Evert was asked if she took it easy on her husband John Lloyd when they practiced together. She was No2 and he was about 700. She said she cant even return his serves let alone win a rally.
@@zawarudo1041 Lol what? Notice how most points aren't shown? Those are all points where she either returned or got close to it. Use a couple brain cells here lmao
1:37 - Serena pretending to laugh it off, but really crying in her mind...remember, she was the one who challenged to beat any guy with ranking lower than 200 only to be humbled.
See the craziest part about this video is that mixed doubles happens to this day, whole section of United cup was mixed doubles, and women returned serve damn well during it. Pegula was damn near better at it than tiafoe in their match against Germany lmao. This was literally just isner in doubles
karsten Brash, ranked 203 at the time, beat the Williams sisters one afternoon after a beer or 2 and a few cigarettes. How could ANY female tennis player EVER fathom that women can compete with men given the same training? I mean here they're facing a guy that never even Broke into the top 10 (Isner: highest ranking was #14). WNBA and Women's Soccer, I hope y'all are watching this.
Opelka is pretty good. Depends if you mean consistency, amound of aces etc. Opelka"s serve is legendary. Isner has the record for like 113 aces in one match. But I"ll argue Federer has one of the serves, with every aspect except power. His second serve is very annoying.
To be fair, Isner was probably leading the entire tour in aces at this point, and he won a lot of sets 7-6. So it wasn't just the women that couldn't return his serve. And isner is basically this whole video.
The big 4 aliens made John Isner's serve look like easy to break but for humans definitely it's not that easy. That serve is monstrous. If he is landing anywhere near 70% of his 1st serve then the guy on the other side really has a very hard day at work.
Men wouldn’t be able to return those either from THAT return point. The meta in men’s singles against servebots became to return from as far back as possible to give yourself more time to get to the ball.
I was just thinking about it today while watching an ATP match, some of those serves were WILD. Honestly I'm not sure how as a woman and as a human I can return those serves. I really do salute for the top players, especially the big 4. Their lvl is almost inhuman
Just one example why the ridiculous claim of "Serena is the greatest tennis player of all time" must come with the qualifier: "Greatest WOMAN tennis player."
Pretty sure Raonic, Karlovic, Opelka, Anderson, Kyrgios, Federer, Del Potro, Berrettini, or Zverev (when he passes his first) would produce the same results. And in the video you had Pospisil serving too.
Men on here: “haha man superior!” The guy you used as an example is a servebot giant who does the same thing to the top men, who can rarely even more fast enough before the ball is already past them.
Do people not realize that mixed doubles exists? This isn't atp servers against wta players, this is John Isner against wta players. A lot of atp guys play mixed doubles and don't win their service games
Women think male athletic superiority is just due to the muscles and explosiveness but it's also due to male brain's reaction time being faster than women's, which has been scientifically proven.
"Collection of the best ATP servers serving some WTA players during Hopman Cup matches + funny reactions :-)" You guys should read the description. But even so, it's not like the uploader is creating a debate. The debate is already settled: we all know if women could compete with men, they would. If they could stand 5hour 5 set games, they would.
This video should really be called “John Isner’s best serves against WTA players. I’m an Isner fan, so I’ve watched a lot of his matches. He’ll hit a lot of virtually unreturnable serves against everyone, making top players look like poor returners all the time. I’m an elite (5.0+) player and I play with women all the time, both training and match play. They’re excellent players and extremely valuable for the sport. Frankly, more people should be challenging the sexist nature of many of these comments.
women out there ask..."why can't women play against men in sports?" - - well, this is one of MANY reasons why... hahahah... not saying men are better... just saying they are at a different level, that's all.
just cus men tend to b more physically gifted absolutely does not mean women sports should be paid sm less. some of the comments are absolutely disgusting here :/ not that this one is but others are just horrible. yes there's a skill gap but it doesn't mean the effort of female athletes should b shunned
@@julia-pw8fz in sports you don't get paid by your efforts...it's by how good you are against other players... if you're not good compared to other players you get paid less whether you're male or female...it's not a matter of gender, it's a matter of biology and it so happens that men are simply better equipped for physical sports than women.... women may be better equipped for other things, just not for this....specially against men.
You should show how Belinda Bencic returned the Services of Sascha Zverev the last two Years (2017/18) in Perth. She distroyed him. Because of her unbelievible returns, Swiss was able to win. Not even because of Federer... ;)
No one who are actually qualified in tennis either in the ATP or WTA talk shit about each other and yet misogynists will find their way into everything 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's simple biology and there is no debate. Men are Stronger and will always be "better" in any sport in which strength and endurance are key factors given that both train at bthe sae level. I would get my ass handed to me competeing against any female athlete! You simply can't compare the two. This has nothing to do with sexism etc. ffs!.
nope. Federer 11 x 1 Isner. Isner can hit 6 or 7 aces against Federer, but the swiss doesn't have much difficulty breaking their serve. If Federer gets to the ball, and touches it with those magical hands he has, he will always be able to return it. Roddick "trained" Federer very well on this.
Isner is difficult to break because of his serve. Problem is he doesn't have the game to break most of his opponents serve. He holds record for most tie breakers played he wind 6 games his opponent wins 6 games. I find his matches predictable and boring. They should just start his matches with a tie breaker and get it over quicker.
Totally agree. I saw him play against Tsisipas at Wimbledon two or three years ago and it was just ball after ball thumping into the backboard. Totally gangly and inelegant round the court as well. Much rather watch Hsieh Su-Wei or someone like that.
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And this is why mens and womens sports are seperate
There is a suggestion to drop gender separation and then divide into a type of classing of ability. That would definitely insult women in many many sports. On average, and at elite sports, men are faster, stronger, quicker and will go a further distance in what I think is most sport. So women will have representation at the elite level.
Men and women should be different catagories and transgenders should all be in with men or have a completely different event with no government assistance.
And women's sports should have prizes that are proportional to what you see here: a fraction of what the men get.
Said a very threatened Mamspoker.
There's Mixed so.. not reaaaallly..
Robert's afraid of life, so focuses anger on imaginary threats. Well done.
Everyone saying "Using Isner is a bad example" is like saying "Don't use that guy he's too good" literally proves the point
What point
@@paigehere5176 1 yes everyone is saying that saw your deleted comment
2 the point that men are the dominant ones at everything, from cooking, horse riding and all other kinds of activities
@@ludviglolo Nowhere did OP say that but okay
Still they rarely showed Serena's troubles against a more average male server
I get the point but meh Women have aced men multiple times in Mixed Doubles, Osaka for example aced Fed once.
These guys are using their socially constructed strength to great effect.
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
😂😂😂😂
The male dominated patriarchy is denying female players faster serves. Those male tennis players exhibit crazy amounts of toxic masculinity, how dare they exert their fullest level of competence on the job?
I mean, who is claiming that the fact men are physically stronger than women is socially constructed...? Satire doesn’t really work if you don’t even listen properly to/comprehend the argument you’re mocking lol
whats it like being too stupid to know the difference between sex and gender?
This is why there has to be so much respect for Djokovic, Nadal, Murray, Federer... They see Isner and break his serve.
Murray no more
Well..used to break in Murray's case
That will only happen on games where his 1st serve percentage is low though. This video is stupid because the specific serves it shows would typically have beaten even the likes of Djokovic.
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@@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 bro murray is 8-0 against isner
"I didn't go on her body at least"
I think he was referring to few of Vasek's body serve to Serena
That was my first instinct upon seeing her.
Even when showing dominance in tennis, men are still chivalrous.
space0d oh yeah not send a 200mph ball to a woman is suCh a chivalrous thing to do. oh wow! thank u for doing the bare minimum expected of u wowowow men r amazing for choosing not to hit women when they can choose not too?! wowowowo
Fuck chivalry and feminism. If pro female players can't handle men at their best, then I guess the battle of the sexes is over. ;)
I remember reading how Isner's kick serves at the University of Georgia would literally jump into the fence making it impossible for receivers to touch it. The trajectory was just absurd.
he kicked a serve against djoko 7.1ft high
Gotta take it early
@@ryanboland2099 Or smash it from behind the base line from his serve.
@@Dark_Voicebest of luck with that on a 120mph serve
even in college john isner got broken, he lost to Somdev Devvarman from virginia in 2007.
When you find a glitch in the game and use it over and over to beat the level
xDDD
That glitch being his height
@@Michael-uo6sq that glitch is him being better LMAO
A lot of players are catching up with the glitch nowadays. Cheat code: "I identify as a female" - only work for male players though. Not sure when they're gonna provide the security patch though...
Isner is one of the best servers on the ATP tour. He aces most of the men too lol
nope karlovic does haha
joeybistoocool Fed returns him fairly easily I reckon. Then again he's fed.
Isner and Karlovic are arguably the 2 best servers ever
WhateverReally ever heard of Sampras, McEnroe or even Federer?
Federer has a good serve... But its far from his strongest asset, Raonic, Karlovic, Isner etc have a (much) better servce
Lol remember when Serena said she could beat any man at like top 50 or whatever then the out of his prime and out of shape 40 year old ranked 200+ 40 year old guy completely demolished her and her sister without breaking a sweat
27.01.1998 in Australia.Karsten Braasch was 31 and ranked 203.
After playing a game of golf the morning and drinking and smoking just before he played her...
@@BoereViking actually while he played her as well
he was also drinking and smoking in-between serves
Serena and her sister were 17 and 16 at the time tho
@@sirlightning3920 and? Girls are physically mature at 16
They literally start going down hill at 19
(A 19 year old female has the lungs of a 50 year old man- and it just gets worse for them from there)
Lets be real guys, this serves were 75/80% of his best, this was a joke, and for anyone that thinks that maybe WTA player can beat ATP player, you're out if your mind.
nah bro they were 30%
He was literally hitting non stop 2nd serve aces. You rarely ever see 2nd serve aces on the ATP tour.
People need to stop comparing men’s and women’s sports it just creates unneeded controversy and argument. Just keep them separate
@@hudsonmcconnell4404 because women ask for equal pay but don't have equal standards of play
@@hudsonmcconnell4404 because Trans rights activists want male-bodied competitors in women's tennis.
And the other guy is just chilling cause he knows what’s gonna happen
"Women can do everything men do." Except returning Isner serves it seems.
Yeah that... and rationalism. 😝
Well, truth to be told, few men can return Isner serves.
@@NiPeMiRecenziiFilme Only the 18 guys above him.
@@neruba2173 sounds like a few to me
@@mwu365 yup, the point is not the amount, but the gender. 100% males.
and people really got all in their feelings when McEnroe spoke the truth about Serena
And people say Serena would beat some of the men in the top 100. umm no she wouldn't there big difference to the mens game compared to womens.
i dont think shed beat any man on the pro tour TBH. maybe if theres someone with both an extremely basic serve and very little spin in his groundstrokes within that 1000-2000, shed may have a shot.
otherwise im not seeing it. the average shot on the mens tour is just so much heavier, the women cant handle that spin because they never play against it and so they dont really practice against it either. if you really wanted to see how a top WTA player could rank against professional men youd have to have her actually practice specifically for that for several months at least, and obviously no ones going to do that.
Serena is the GOAT and can ace any male player given like 20 serves, but she'd still lose 6-0 6-0 or 6-0 6-1.
serena and venus lost a match against a german atp pro male player back in 1998 .each of them played a set against him. the pro male player was ranked 203 at the time.they thought they can win a match over a male whos rank is somewhere around 200 after they saw them practicing. the final result was 6-1 6-2 . obviosly they cant win a match against a top 100 atp player
also, the way he tells it, karsten braasch (the guy they played against) wasnt even trying. it simply doesnt make sense to try and compare ATP to WTA players
Radwanska outplayed Isner in Hopman 2015 final mixed match with Serena being worst out of 4 and Aga MVP
Damn! this is wicked. Even 80% of ATP tour men have difficulties returning his serve. A woman will have 0 chance.
hence the point of the video
Rafa Nadal should serve to be a more fair test wright?
lilJoey CF let's be honest on his day no one can "deal" with isner on hard. U just wait until he fucks up his serve eventually.
If it were he would have taken point at those serve😂
@@suyogv5631 How? He literally cleaned up the best women alive like they were nothing
I love how it gets to the point where the audience and even the REF are laughing at the situation...
Mixed sports are basically a joke.
not at table tennis. It's very entertaining there
i see mixed doubled tennis games similar to how Federer plays. Many players targeted his one hand backhand as the weakest part of his game reasonably...however, the style itseld is beautiful to watch and whenever he makes a one-hand backhand winner after the struggles it is worth celebrating. I think it is just understood that half the team in mixed doubles aren't as strong and so there is a complementary aspect that makes watching it quite fun.
To be fair, Isner is an acing machine even against ATP players. There's a reason he was involved in long matches all the time. Nobody can break his serve.
John Lee He's actually had his serve broken a few times throughout his career.
@@olivermccall3898 alot more than a few
Ferrero had his number i do not know how but he just destroyed him.
Yes but he almost never hits a second serve ace on ATP tour. He was hitting consistent second serve aces against the women.
It was second serve ace consistently come one he was serving at 30% 🤣🤣
This is like playing against someone in mortal kombat who spams the same button over and over to prevent you from even getting up; eventually leading to them winning, I love it.
I used to do that with mileena. the kneel kick. people hated me for that XD But I could only use that move vs less skilled players, lol
Just so y'all know, that dude is a 6'10" monster with the ATP record for the fastest serve. He can probably kill someone with his serve
Sam Groth served 263km/hr but it was at a challenger event
Just so y'all know he was serving at like 66.6% here and has won nothing to speak of on the men's tournament.
Just so y'all know the avg male is over 6 inches taller and around 50-60 pounds heavier than the avg women.. just saying
@@alvaroponce709 I’m possibly their same height and weigh 50 kgs heavier, but it doesn’t mean that’s my advantage. The weight is weighing me down
@Alberdi yup
So McEnroe is right uhh?
Yes. He is.
Absolutely.
Obviously.
Yes. But if Serena had the upper body strength and height of male players she would wipe the floor with them anyway, as mentally-wise they're all weaklings compared to her. Watching men like him take pride in something as meritless as being taller and having more upper body strength than female players gives me 2nd hand embarrassment; it's pathetic.
Jay M what does that mean mental strength. I mean yeah if Serena had the body of a male she'd have a chance but that's not really a factor.
I wish Serena played Karlovic,talk about taste of your own medicine.
Really tho? She got absolutely destroyed by a player that wasn't even in the top 200
She also stated that she would most likely lose. th-cam.com/video/2cRIb63X_e0/w-d-xo.html
Y'all are so jealous and bitter.
@@paigehere5176 and you are.... happy and joyful?
@@DenerWitt Yes?
In their defense, it takes some getting used to when you're seeing something that's 10-20 mph (or more) faster than what you normally play against.
Try 50 mph more
Jimmy Contin women hit their groundies just as fast
@@epickirby101 LOL get real.
@@networth00 I read top wta players hit faster but with less spin
@@Channel-fh4mu Faster than what?
When people say "Gender is a social construct"!!!😂😂
a guy in Canada legally changed his gender to get cheaper car insurance
It is. Sex is biologically determined and gender is culturally determined. Its pretty simple.
Yeah everyone a bitch when JI servin 😝
By "people" you mean the entire academic world. And yeah, they're right.
@@thomasdendtler4077 By people I mean the funny looking academic world that says obesity is healthy and live in a rainbow world. 😂😂 And yeah, I know iam right.
The diff in men and woman sport is beyond insane. A random retired tennis player like Dudi Sela could best serena in her prime.
he cant
yeah the strength difference between men and women is gigantic, the nr1000 on the ATP defeats the top10 WTA easily
mezstah Absolutely not
It's more around 700. 1000 is a bit to far down.
@@ConnorC97 the top 300 ranked mam beat the top ranked female player 6-1 then 6-0. It's estimated that the greatest female player would rank in the 700s, of mens college rankings
It's very different though, women go for broke on every shot, men do not, they generally build up the point more. I would like to see men go for broke every shot, I don't think any would reach Serena's accuracy. But yeah, no female is gonna beat a man with great stamina and a solid serve. I don't think anyone with a medium serve like say Goffin would be able to bagel Serena though, she would likely still win her service games rather easily because her serve might be slower than a mens serve, it has a lot more accuracy than a mens serve.
Hazori it doesn’t have any more accuracy than a men’s serve. If anything it has less accuracy because she’s shorter
Not my favourite compilation of all time, but Serena's two-handed forehand squeak at 1:29 is everything.
And at 2:15
@@mumenraider that is a backhand
Yeah, she enjoyed that one
gender is a social construct...?
Gym Rat and so is trans wrinkled dick 😂😂😂
Yes.
Oxford Dictionary: "Either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones."
L i B e r A l t H I n K i N g
Yes it is sex it not
Adam Grimsley How could our perception of our selves collide with our physical bodies, as if our brain wasn't included.
Radwanska... the only one i saw better, even if only one ball pass the net. IT DID. 🔥
2:15 is the direction of all male vs female tennis arguments.
this is why when we talk about records, we're automatically talking about MEN'S records. No one gives a shit if serena has more GS than Federer because the level of competition on the men's side is INSANELY higher..
Legend has it that John McEnroe never goes to sleep without watching this video.
This is why the angry god tennis pro said serena would be 700, because of power
He is not an angry god of tennis, just a p..ed off god of tennis making his point (it's IN! ) lol
7000 maybe
...and footspeed, reaction time, lung capacity, mental fortitude...
To be fair, Isner's kick serve would probably kick above most players' overhead reach. I once remember a stat where a first serve kicked up 2.25 m or nearly 7'5", so the second is surely much worse.
Chris Evert was asked if she took it easy on her husband John Lloyd when they practiced together. She was No2 and he was about 700. She said she cant even return his serves let alone win a rally.
It doesn’t show in these video cuts but Aga did RELATIVELY well in that match trying to return Isner’s serve. I miss Hopman Cup!!
Aga is a guess monster!
Has she even touched ball at least? Stop trying to give her credit for failing something that even the worst guy would be laughed for forever
@@zawarudo1041 Lol what? Notice how most points aren't shown? Those are all points where she either returned or got close to it. Use a couple brain cells here lmao
1:37 - Serena pretending to laugh it off, but really crying in her mind...remember, she was the one who challenged to beat any guy with ranking lower than 200 only to be humbled.
That's why McEnroe said Serena Williams would struggle to get inside 150 in men's game.
See the craziest part about this video is that mixed doubles happens to this day, whole section of United cup was mixed doubles, and women returned serve damn well during it. Pegula was damn near better at it than tiafoe in their match against Germany lmao. This was literally just isner in doubles
ATP servers against WTA players ❌
John Isner against WTA players ✅
Props to Aga getting her racket on the ball a few times.
Radwanska could actually return some of these, she has a great return.
Serena herself said that she would never survive even a solid hour with 150 atp ranked male player
Omg McEnroe was right
Anyone that thinks one of the top ten wta players would stand a chance against the 500 of the atp players is just ridiculous and biased
And note that that is arguably the best female tennis player of all time
The pay gap explained in 2 minutes and 40 seconds.
A lot of those serves had amazing placement and speed. Even men would struggle to get a racquet to it.
not for this year hopman cup when mldenovic and bencic returned so damn well against the young men.
At 2:16 Serena is like - get me out of here...
karsten Brash, ranked 203 at the time, beat the Williams sisters one afternoon after a beer or 2 and a few cigarettes. How could ANY female tennis player EVER fathom that women can compete with men given the same training? I mean here they're facing a guy that never even Broke into the top 10 (Isner: highest ranking was #14). WNBA and Women's Soccer, I hope y'all are watching this.
This isn’t just any atp player, it’s one of the best servers ever
Opelka is pretty good. Depends if you mean consistency, amound of aces etc. Opelka"s serve is legendary. Isner has the record for like 113 aces in one match.
But I"ll argue Federer has one of the serves, with every aspect except power. His second serve is very annoying.
Women : "We want equal pay"
Men: "We take no prisoners"
To be fair, Isner was probably leading the entire tour in aces at this point, and he won a lot of sets 7-6. So it wasn't just the women that couldn't return his serve. And isner is basically this whole video.
Props to radwanska for returning isner serves. 2:39
To play devils advocate that is John Isner.
And people are like, "Serena can compete with men." There's no way. LOL
Rtt lmao unless their serve sucks
it's really just the returning their serve, but she has a great serve. I bet she could do it.
The big 4 aliens made John Isner's serve look like easy to break but for humans definitely it's not that easy. That serve is monstrous. If he is landing anywhere near 70% of his 1st serve then the guy on the other side really has a very hard day at work.
Big 3 aliens. *
Men wouldn’t be able to return those either from THAT return point.
The meta in men’s singles against servebots became to return from as far back as possible to give yourself more time to get to the ball.
I was just thinking about it today while watching an ATP match, some of those serves were WILD. Honestly I'm not sure how as a woman and as a human I can return those serves. I really do salute for the top players, especially the big 4. Their lvl is almost inhuman
mixed doubles: Gentlemens singles with obsticals
this video just makes me appreciate Nicholas Mahut even more
REMEMBER. Serena Williams is THE BEST women’s tennis player ever
And she couldn’t return any of his serves 😂
She did ace the other male player herself in this match and made unreturnable serves as well.
@@TheJwwinter no comparison. rekt
Credit to Radwanska for actually returning Isner's serve
Just one example why the ridiculous claim of "Serena is the greatest tennis player of all time" must come with the qualifier: "Greatest WOMAN tennis player."
And they wanted John McEnroe to apologize for not saying Serena is the greatest player (not greatest “female” player). Sheesh.
Why haven't we seen more of John Isner in mixed doubles at Grand Slams? Puzzled.
I don't think any of the top players want to play mixed doubles at grand slams. They want to focus on singles and doubles.
Women: "We deserve EqUal pay"
Reality:
To be fair, they’ve only shown aces and un returned ones, and the guy is isner his serve is a nightmare for even the guys
To be fair, that's isners serve. Even the top mens struggle to return his serve.
Pretty sure Raonic, Karlovic, Opelka, Anderson, Kyrgios, Federer, Del Potro, Berrettini, or Zverev (when he passes his first) would produce the same results. And in the video you had Pospisil serving too.
But not that much
Men on here: “haha man superior!”
The guy you used as an example is a servebot giant who does the same thing to the top men, who can rarely even more fast enough before the ball is already past them.
Finally Radwanska was able to beat off Isner's serve xD
"I didn't go into her body at least"
I't like dads playing with their kids and showing no mercy 😂
Do people not realize that mixed doubles exists? This isn't atp servers against wta players, this is John Isner against wta players. A lot of atp guys play mixed doubles and don't win their service games
Women think male athletic superiority is just due to the muscles and explosiveness but it's also due to male brain's reaction time being faster than women's, which has been scientifically proven.
"Collection of the best ATP servers serving some WTA players during Hopman Cup matches + funny reactions :-)"
You guys should read the description. But even so, it's not like the uploader is creating a debate. The debate is already settled: we all know if women could compete with men, they would. If they could stand 5hour 5 set games, they would.
"Men and Women are equal" 🤡
This video should really be called “John Isner’s best serves against WTA players. I’m an Isner fan, so I’ve watched a lot of his matches. He’ll hit a lot of virtually unreturnable serves against everyone, making top players look like poor returners all the time. I’m an elite (5.0+) player and I play with women all the time, both training and match play. They’re excellent players and extremely valuable for the sport. Frankly, more people should be challenging the sexist nature of many of these comments.
Sportswomen - We should earn as much as men!
Male contestants - Hold my beer.
People saying ''Isner is not a good example'' didn't watch the other half of the video with Pospisil serving against Serena.
Vasek Pospisil is just a 6'4" midget after all. And let's not forget the diminutive Jerzy Janowicz at a mere 6'7".
Man, to be honest, Isner gets that results with almost every guy he confronts in ATP circuit.
women out there ask..."why can't women play against men in sports?" - - well, this is one of MANY reasons why... hahahah... not saying men are better... just saying they are at a different level, that's all.
just cus men tend to b more physically gifted absolutely does not mean women sports should be paid sm less. some of the comments are absolutely disgusting here :/ not that this one is but others are just horrible. yes there's a skill gap but it doesn't mean the effort of female athletes should b shunned
@@julia-pw8fz in sports you don't get paid by your efforts...it's by how good you are against other players... if you're not good compared to other players you get paid less whether you're male or female...it's not a matter of gender, it's a matter of biology and it so happens that men are simply better equipped for physical sports than women.... women may be better equipped for other things, just not for this....specially against men.
who the f asked that?
Serena's little screams were SO CUTE! lol
thats a joke. all of those serves would have been aces against men as well.
"C'mon John!" No, John, keep pouring it on. Women need constant reminders and we should be more than happy to oblige. ;)
To be fair, most ATP players aren’t returning the serves highlighted here.
*FEMİNİSTS INCOMING*
The best way to piss off a feminist is to point out common biological concepts. It's not offensive enough though so go for a kitchen joke
I once heard Roddick say, “You can’t teach 6’9”!”
They were like, "You served my woman? I'll serve yours!"
You should show how Belinda Bencic returned the Services of Sascha Zverev the last two Years (2017/18) in Perth. She distroyed him. Because of her unbelievible returns, Swiss was able to win. Not even because of Federer... ;)
No one who are actually qualified in tennis either in the ATP or WTA talk shit about each other and yet misogynists will find their way into everything 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's simple biology and there is no debate. Men are Stronger and will always be "better" in any sport in which strength and endurance are key factors given that both train at bthe sae level. I would get my ass handed to me competeing against any female athlete! You simply can't compare the two. This has nothing to do with sexism etc. ffs!.
Okay but Isner has one of the best first serves in the game...
it would be pretty much the same with a more average server tbh isner is not even using 80 % of his potential
In their defense, Isner is 6’10” and most men struggle with his massive serve as well.
nope. Federer 11 x 1 Isner. Isner can hit 6 or 7 aces against Federer, but the swiss doesn't have much difficulty breaking their serve. If Federer gets to the ball, and touches it with those magical hands he has, he will always be able to return it. Roddick "trained" Federer very well on this.
"most men". Proceeds to name one of the best players of all time
Isner is difficult to break because of his serve. Problem is he doesn't have the game to break most of his opponents serve. He holds record for most tie breakers played he wind 6 games his opponent wins 6 games. I find his matches predictable and boring. They should just start his matches with a tie breaker and get it over quicker.
Peter Florino lol
Peter Florino 😂😂😂😂😂
Totally agree. I saw him play against Tsisipas at Wimbledon two or three years ago and it was just ball after ball thumping into the backboard. Totally gangly and inelegant round the court as well. Much rather watch Hsieh Su-Wei or someone like that.
imagine having so many skill points invested in a single area that the association makes you only play tiebreakers because of how boring your style is
Most of these serve was aces even for the Best ATP palyers. All of them was next to the line or body serve.
Surprised Serena didn’t start crying and blaming the linesman
ATP or WTA nobody can return Isner’s serve
ATP & WTA are different sports...
Any way. Most of those serves are ace (or winning serve) vs any player. 🤷♀️
The women don't have the experience dealing with serves at that speed, they don't need to most of the time.