2023 Honda CR-V Quick Review // RAV4 Slayer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2022
- The 2023 Honda CR-V EX-L ($43,390 in Canada, $35,260 in the US + destination) has been completely redesigned . It’s powered by a 1.5 litre turbo charged engine that puts out 190 horsepower. Paired with a CVT, only, it represents an easy, all-wheel drive practical purchase. Although it does have some pretty tough competition in this segment. Thomas and James spend some time with it and dive into what it’s all about. We hope you enjoy the episode. Subscribe!!
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I like seeing these more economy car reviews, not that the expensive cars are bad, but it’s nice to see these too!
This. It's nice to see reviews for cars that people can actually afford
Generally are the only reviews I care about.
That probably says more about my bank account than it does the cars.
@@AndrewUHS honestly, same. I'm tired of seeing 6 figure shit boxes with massive overboosted engines that need rebuilt before the first oil change
These economy cars are bank breakers too now with the interest rates and not a penny in discounts!
Even this one is expensive as FK for me lol.
The problem is that they paired a laggy turbo engine to a laggy transmission and then tuned it for fuel economy.
Some people want a little more room than a car, but also desire a good mpg efficiency. The market for this is not to be fast or sharp, but it's to be comfortable and reliable (CVT?).
@@carllos25
Not an adequate excuse for putting a crummy, underpowered engine and a crummy transmission in a heavy car. Honda has done much better in the past, but they have apparent lost their game.
@@jimiverson3085 well, you know, now we get less for even more money. So I get what you mean.
This with the Accord’s 10 speed and 2.0t engine would be to compete with Mazda
@@carllos25 the point isn't about power and speed. It's about responsiveness which can be downright dangerous when trying to make a turn and not cut someone off or merging on the highway. I don't want massive power from my car, but I want instant response from the engine when I press the gas pedal. The lag in the response gives me no power up front and then too much power up top, it's like a rubberband effect which then necessitates me to brake to slow down. I experienced this in the Civic (turbo) already and I imagine it's even worse in this car.
I like when you review "normal" cars, not only expensive sport cars. Thanks.
Unfortunately, this is an expensive normal car.
@@cgatito3528 35k?
@@gaara4667 overpriced for what it is and it’s lack of features compared to competitors should be $5-7k cheaper than it is
It's a piece of shit, because it's an SUV so therefore a piece of shit. No more thought necessary. All SUVs are trash except for actual off road SUV of which they are very few. Fuck SUVs lets get back to PROPER cars.
@@gaara4667 An absurd price.
Love this type of content, Real world cars/ affordable daily drivers.
Affordable…yeah totally
Not today. The "affordable" option today is port injected, probably a 2.4, and it's over 10 years old. Rusted underneath, valve cover might need replacing... yeah. That one MIGHT be affordable. Unless you are talking from the perspective that NOT everyone 'should own a car', you feel you should, and you feel this one appeals to your monthly budget? Either way, you're not in touch with "today", affordable or not.
$45k isn't affordable.
@@MatrixDiscovery 45k CAD is perfectly fine for what you get, especially considering the base model is even cheaper.
The hybrid will definitely be marked up like crazy.
The hybrid will only be available in top trim version (Touring) in Canada. Then you'll have to pay the maximum in order to save gas. That's a big mistake !!!
@@FMWS Companies can't even make nearly enough hybrids to meet demand yet the lemmings believe we're supposed to all somehow be able to buy EVs
@@FMWS I agree, I can see them offering the hybrid option in more trims in the following years.
good luck fixing ur hybrid Honda if anything in the power train goes bad
It's on their website. At least for the US market, the 2023 HRV AWD, Sport Touring is $38,600.
Not related to this video, but this (sadly) has to be said:
You guys have created something that is very close to what the original BBC Top Gear used to be and what a lot if producers have been trying to replicate for years.
You guys are very close, if not even there, given the budget I assume you have, and make it seem effortless at the same time.
Subtle humor combined with real automotive education packed into an entertaining package.
Not the in-your-face-slapstick-humor-so-basic-and-obvious-so-everyone-must-understand-it combined with only drifting and drag racing expensive cars.
So keep it up. You are awesome. And please don‘t lose it (what ever it is).
Faithful viewer from Germany.
We bought the 2019 EX-L model in April of 2020, for a huge discount when dealers didn't know what to do with their inventory. I don't really understand the commentary about the handling, balance, etc. of that gen - it is the most boring, uninspired, yet quiet, comfortable, and fine handling CUV. Absolutely perfect for the role of a basic, spacious family car that will go on driving forever. We got it specifically because we don't want to put miles on our nice car, and couldn't be happier.
Alot of car review channels review cars for "performance". They don't review it for how 90 percent of people drive cars
CVT has infinite ratios, but not infinite range of ratios, they can actually be pretty limited in range to protect the weak steel belt that is utilized. So still geared with efficiency in mind. And imagine this with 4 people, all their stuff on a 90+F degree day with all the turbo lag.
That AND you need to keep in mind the power of the engine. Even if there was a very tall ratio available to simulate "lower gears", HP is simply a measure of an amount of work over a period of time. This is why a more powerful engine is "faster". Also, the Toyota hybrid systems don't use a belt, they use a planetary gear set, so that is also another reason why their system is much better than any belt system (which every other CVT system uses).
@@jeffer1101 yes agree Toyotas cvts are the best on the market …. If a CVT can even be considered such lol
Add that to the fact that honda's 1.5t doesn't have what I like to call "immediate power".
Basically, off idle, it is completely gutless. You have to rev it out to 3-4k to begin to get power.
Couple that with a (relatively) heavy vehicle, and you end up with the "floor it delay" they found.
Correct. I think the issue is that Honda tuned the throttle and trans to fuel economy at the expense of everything else. The CVT should have grabbed the lowest ratio possible much faster than a normal geared transmission in their full throttle scenario but it didn’t. To me that says Honda programmed in delay for normal people and even with a “sport” transmission mode didn’t give people a way to ask for more immediate acceleration. I think Honda is playing more games than they need to in order to hit FE targets, should’ve made the hybrid more accessible and called it a day.
@@miker6472 Possible, but it's still a large vehicle for a small 1.5L engine to move around. Not a big deal for casual driving, but if you are going to put your foot into, it's not going to be that fast. I think it has more to do with that than anything about the CVT's programming.
Man.. even throttle houses boring car reviews are awesome. Well done fellas.
Finally! I was waiting for your review even after seeing all the reviews available on TH-cam 😃
You guys are BEST!🥂✌️
The problem with CVT is not that it doesn't have unlimited ratios. It does. However, the lowest ratio is pretty high due to being able to handle certain amount of torque so they had to make the pulleys bigger to have enough surface area to handle the torque. Due to size limitations, the lowest ratio is like a normal automatic in 2nd gear so the initial acceleration is pretty slow.
You don't "stomp" on it at a stop, it won't dump all the power on the CVT. Progressive throttle application works best. It can be relatively quick application, but not all at once.
Me literally not interested in the car and only watching because I want to be entertained Thomas and James’s personalities tells you they’re doing a great job 😎
You guys are literally the first and only major channel that I've heard mention dealer markups in a review. Thanks for factoring in real world issues!
literally every car channel making videos rn has talked about dealer markups
@@Aaaronicus lol exactly. Almost every reviewer mentions today’s market or adjustments. Parker lives on the moon somewhere
"When you buy a Honda, you end up with a Honda." Jeremy Clarkson
That's the problem !!!
I rented a Versa with a CVT once. It did the same thing: It would bog the engine when flooring it to merge. And inexplicably, other times when I was just cruising around (maybe 30 mph), it would be at like 4,500 RPM for no reason. However, though I might question the shift logic, it got insanely good fuel economy with those antics.
Love Thomas’s hair 3:42 Definitely the best part for me love his laugh at the end as well he’s a gift to us all what a angel
I had a BMW and spent a ton of money on service and made me paranoid about any upcoming work and I am far from broke... but to keep wealth driving a practical vehicle is a smart decision. This Honda (any many other SUV's) is a winner.
Of all the cars that exist, this is one of them
I got a 2018 took on a road trip got great gas mileage was also doing 80 - 90 miles per hour passing cars no problem very comfortable drive fully loaded as well 4 people full trunk
I'd imagine this car would be way better with the 2.0 turbo from the Accord, but I'd imagine that'd cost MPG, which is typically important to CRV owners.
"Honda: Like a good T-Shirt." I like it 😂
Honda are absolutely smashing it lately with some seriously sensible, and near-perfectly executed designs
I wish they still made the Accord Crosstour. A 6 cylinder 4wd hatchback that drives like a car would check all of my boxes
Go try a Tesla model y. It'll change your world
@@mluu510 lmao were not stupid
Had a 2013 crosstour with the V6 130,000 miles completely flawless. Wife wanted a new car we looked at the Acura RDX but that 2.0 turbo used premium only and got terrible mileage. Honda had nothing that would replace the crosstour except for the Passport and at 47k it was a joke. It was really not even an upgrade from the crosstour except for maybe the Android auto no 360 camera no pano roof etc. She ended up with a Mazda CX30 turbo with the premium plus package and is absolutely in love and doesn't miss the Crosstour at all
I like it. I like it a LOT. Very good solid yet clean. Love my 2018 Touring. Kind of weird that this 1,5T is the same engine as the last gen but hey the last gen was actually pretty good. I aced 54MPG on the CAPITOL BELTWAY in mine without "Eco Mode" on..
I am neither a sensible person or a person interested in the Honda CRV, but throttle house rules! I am wombat.
Love your videos guys!!!
When you guys do normal cars, maybe touch on mpgs a bit too?
as always great job enjoyed it :)
I'd like to see another small truck review from you guys, the Tacoma vs the new Frontier would be pretty cool.
We have the 2018 CRV EXL and we love it
I think Honda should put the 2.0t from the accord in the CRV
and the hud, and the vented seats....
@@GoofieNewfie then your price go up and is closer to RDX, then you decide why not spend a bit more to get RDX? Although I do think it needs HUD, and Ventilated seats, and 360 camera. I personally don’t care about 2.0T engine, I want hybrid.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 no, other brands have this, and cheaper. The prices already went up. What are you paying for? Every vehicle has the features the Honda has and more. It's 4 grand more man! In Canada we also got a CRV last gen with a Pano...where's that? The RDX is weak, and I own a new Acura.
@@GoofieNewfie I’m with you, I’m also disappointed to see CRV lacks many features that other brand offers. Touring definitely needs a few more features. It would be my perfect car if it has ventilated seats, HUD, 360 camera, full digital gauge, flat loading floor, handle to fold down rear seats, and LED rear turn signal. I personally don’t mind they increase MSRP for a little over 40K.
@Steve O the crv touring model could still have a pano roof. I’m not holding my breath but I don’t know why they would get rid of it. And if you look under specs for the crv 23 on honda Canada’s website it has no information on a moon roof or pano roof. So we might get lucky who knows (in Canada )
Love the way my CRV handles. Sure its painfully slow but in the corners its suprisingly composed to the point where youre not afraid to chuck it into a corner. Ill just pretend its a momentum car
That sunroof camera placement is awesome for visualizing how much vibes come through the interior, i'm not sure whats up with modern hondas but their cars really have a way of transmitting road noise right into your brain, hittin that first bump and hearing that strut pop wasnt the vibe
Honda has never been good at road noise. This is where Acura accels, but now even Acura isn't competitive in this area. My first gen TLX Elite was essentially an upgraded 13' Accord which I also owned and the first Honda I've owned in 25 years that was actually quiet with 18's on it. My New TLX is loud. Quite loud, tires, wind etc. They are living in a vacuum and not taking into account how good the competition has gotten.
@@GoofieNewfie they are relying too much on noise cancelling tech, thats not really designed for that type of noise
Still living with the 2018 and we have gone on several road trips through mountain passes.
It's fine for what it is - a big car that's easy on gas so it would be slow. It took the family with baby stuff, and the trunk being filled to the top, and still managed ~ 7 litres/100km.
It could use more sound proofing but that would mean extra weight and even slower + worse fuel economy I guess.
Reliability/durability-wise, I honestly don't think it will last as many km/years as the K-series CRV with NA and without DI and less electronics.
Great video. It looks more like the front of the European HRv introduced a few years ago.
Finally! Thanks for coming back to Earth and reviewing cars that “most” people can afford. Just a wee confusion. Started off super harsh on it then softened to recommending it….
"Most" people absolutely cannot afford a new car in today's monthly budget. No way. I consider myself lucky to make what I do, and I've never ever thought buying a new car was a financially viable idea. Affordable?? Better be a 2012 maintenance queen CR-V that you can drive with a relatively low cost of ownership over the next 5-6 years, otherwise... you don't get 'affordable' as an idea, much less 'most'.
“Here’s an Honda” -James sounding remarkably like a certain other James that also talks about cars.
Great Review ETH ! Folks, go see this next gen CRV ! Its a winner and will sell !
Now when the production numbers increase ?, who knows !
I have a 99 and 06 CRV and I'm looking at the 23. Unfortunately I hate the stitching on the hybrid sports, so thr EX-L looks like the one. Appreciate this review.
Would love to see you do a review of the hybrid as well
Perhaps a tune and intake would add the so called "sparkle" that it seems to be missing. These motors pack a lot of power potential via software.
WE WANT EVERYDAY CARS LIKE THESE ON THE MAIN CHANNEL GUYS! Not all of us are rich
Sounds like one would just need to slide into the RDX for added performance. With the next generation RDX likely to have a Type S variant, maybe Honda will slot in a CR-V Touring 2.0T at some point.
Respect Honda to have physical buttons instead of glitchy on screen ones
I would still take the RAV4 prime no doubt ….. you guys are still the best though !!
More hybrid options is better for everyone. But after seeing this still happy with my RAV4. Love the new look for the CRV.
In my view, the R4 definitely has a slight edge over the CRV. Especially once you think of it as a mini-4Runner. Still, if someone gifted me a CRV, I wouldn't complain at all.
definitely a good package for the price in the new crv, for most people its ok, but i need that merging and passing power
I like how it looks, i do find it weird that the top trim doesn't come with bigger wheels but I bet ride quality is a lot better, I do find it weird that you cant get cooled seats or a panoramic sunroof on any trims, at least all the reviews on the top trims, I have watched don't have any
Good taste of watches Thomas. Nice speedy
We've got an '04 CR-V at my home, had it for a long time. It's slow, all CR-Vs are slow. Good AWD, lots of cargo room, comfortable, reliable, well built, well designed, not fast.
hey there! I love your car reviews you guys rock!!! If you could just do a Acura RDX review I just want to know your comment on this car. Looking forward to see your review about another Premier Honda SUV. Again love your review.
I have absolutely no interest in a crv but these guys could review a banana and I would watch it.
for economy cars, surprised you guys haven’t reviewed the sport touring hatchback
Are you guys going to review the Mazda cx-50? Highly appreciated 👍
I tried the Honda CRV EX waiting on the EXLs to come in to the dealership. I liked it very much. It is not a race car but had enough pep for me. It handles very well and is a comfortable ride. The CRV has the Honda DNA like my 2007 Accord. The 2023 Honda CRVs are better cars than the new Accords which were a huge disappointment.
Did you guys change some setting on the GoPro on the front windshield? Looked kinda strange.
Needs the 2.0 turbo with the 10 speed automatic.
I actually prefer last years design for the CRV only. But haven’t seen this in person yet
I like the two extra knobs in this one 😂
Yes
Actually the transmission "test" you do at 4:56 ish, try that with a DSG and see how laggy a transmission can be. Most transmissions are really bad in the let-off-the-throttle-to-coast-only-to-get-back-on-it maneuver, Toyota CVTs are decent responsive in this I've found.
woah, the new NPCRV looks sweet!!!!
did you guys switch frame rates for this? Looks kinda cool :)
I've owned this CRV for 6 months. It drives better now than when I took it off the lot. Great vehicle. It's not bought to gun around town like teenagers. If you can't get past the testoserone stuff then you're missing the complete point of having one.
"There are sensible people watching this." *Oh, oh... I'm not one of those people.* 😳
I’ve always like the rav4. It’s exactly what you need with none of the fluff
I think the Rav4 is a leader now in the industry for this size car. You can still get a normal auto trans instead of a CVT cheapie trans, and you can get a non aspirated engine as well which is reliable. We quit buying CRV's our last is the 2014 with normal trans and non aspirated engine. Our next jump will be to either a Rav4 or a XC40 Volvo. No more Honda for us.
Honda hrv at least in the states is basically a AWD civic. Also, the 20/22 crv is just as good as this one imo. Same engine and trans minus the fake shifts.
You can see into Thomas' brain with that rear camera shot.
Can we please have a Thomas Holland cooking content channel? Also would love to see Thomas’ DIY BMW M2 maintenance channel, because it can help demystify German luxury car maintenance. How will he tackle a BMW oil change or rod bearings, and how does it compare to doing an oil change on a Honda ?
My 2013 Elantra has heated rear seats - I've been ahead of the game this whole time
Totally down to watch these regular car reviews
Now if only someone made a channel called that...
I have an 02 CRV with 330K miles on it that i drive 120 miles daily to work. K24 is bullet proof.. I have always been skeptical of the newer ones with the CVT trans. Not sure why they just didn't do a tuned down version of the 2.0T w/ the 10 SPD in an AWD format.
k24 is the best!!!
This cvt is the reason I didn't buy the civic. To get a manual transmission you had to get the hatchback for extra money. That extra money put the cost pretty close to a 2023 Camry SE with an eight speed transmission. My new Camry SE is white.
I just love this guys,😂🤣
Please do more review of these kind of economy (the common people's car) vehicle more. Yes, we all love to see the expensive car (most of us can't afford), but reviewing the economy car will help us make better decision on purchasing the vehicle that we can afford.
What is the price of the 2023 CRV LX FWD in canada please?
Thanks
How do you compare the CR-V to the Tucson and Sportage?
Not Available across the country (STATES), Most Honda Dealers are getting $5000 or more over Sticker Retail on 2022 models that are considered a year old as of now Civics, CR-V and Accords
I own a 09 crv and I have the same problem..not enough power but it has v tech soo that is fun and with the awd it is quite fun but If I had the money to upgrade and change I'd get a gr corolla.
All it needs is a better intake and a good tune that’s it. You have a good car then
wait for new Rav4 to compare with this one
I'm surprised how good the CR-V looks
Haven't you seen Honda Accord last few years? It's raised up Accord in the front, and Volve in the rear.
Hee-yun-day lol🤣
Hi-un-die
You've got a lovely character James. Keep up the great work. 👍👍
I'm try to decide between Crv2023 Ex-L and Sportage 2023 ex premium, any advice?
The Honda engineers forgot about the heavy American passengers and the boat load of groceries they buy
In the US at least it looks like the new one still doesn’t get a pano roof or 360° cam. Every other competitor offers those features at least as options and I don’t understand why Honda is so stingy with them.
CX5 slays both the CRV and RAV4.
I have to give Honda credit as they are the only brand to have the audacity to cheapen essential items on their best sellers and charge exponentially more for a slower, less reliable car 👏👏👏
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Essential items are frame, engine, transmission, wheels, and safety. Which did they cheap out on? People don't buy crvs to go fast. Hondas reliability is still one of if not the best brand of car.
I live in an apartment, so I had to buy a hybrid. And I have to say, I LOVE my ‘19 Fusion Hybrid!!
🤮🤮🤮
Finally a good looking CRV!
There isn’t a better example of the word “Car” than a Honda CRV. It has enough space for a family, looks good, has enough power, has all the tech for 2023 and isn’t overly expensive and complicated. It’s just a car for normal people to drive from point a to point b and maybe go on vacation in between. I’m very glad Honda has come out with a CRV that actually looks good for once.
The original 2 CR-Vs looked quite nice. Like lifted Civic Space Wagons.
Any wind noise problems like some of the previous models?
Do mini-van reviews next!!
To help me get through this reviews, I went onto Hyundai's site and priced a base Venue for $20k that comes with 6 speed manual transmission.
Have seen this car on the road wondering how good it is?
You live in Canada and you didn't mention carrying your kids to and from hockey practice!?!
Regarding the CVT I'd love to see some investigation done with a throttle controller to see if it's torque-lock up programming or a really damped throttle response to save fuel and avoid overheating the CR-V in city traffic.
Wonder if Honda fixed the damn heater. I had a 2019 that the heater blew cold air when it went below 0 °F (-17 °C). I could watch the temp gauge go down to C when driving and it never came back up. Dealership told me that's been a recurring problem for other customers and urged me to drive slower, turn the blower down, and rely on heated seats. Really dangerous when its that cold and the windshield frosts up.
these guys need to hold hands.
It may be different calibration, but with a 2014 forester with over 80k flooring the cat doesn't do anything. Rolling from 1/4 throttle to 1/2 throttle seems to get better acceleration.