Oddity Archive: Episode 65 - Public Domain VHS Distributors (An Incomplete Overview)
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The sound on the little lulu short scared me. Now I never have to fear anything ever again.
Not so fun fact about Vidtape: The company was investigated by the Department of Justice for child labor violations. They had underage employees working 14 hour shifts, where they wipe tapes to record Vidtape's stuff onto, pack tapes, and cart them out, for below minimum wage during the school year. The founders ended up in prison and the company went under afterward.
On another note, I'd love to see a sequel to this episode or at least a video about Goodtimes. There's a very rich history to that company, from releasing public domain stuff, licensed stuff, and exercise videos to getting bought out by a yoga equipment company.
They also were caught selling counterfeit goods on the side, including fake Colgate Toothpaste.
don't forget what that yoga company turned into
@@walkingonneedles How can I ever forget them spinning the fitness equipment part of the business off and shifting their focus towards peddling metaphysical bullshit on their overpriced streaming service? It's an utterly wild story. 🤣
Goodtimes also had a video game publishing division for a few years, GT Interactive.
And in the last years of the company, they sold something called the GT Express, which was basically a kind of blender. No, I’m not kidding.
@@KoryGilesMusicGroup It's a countertop griddle of some sort. I binged the infomercials featuring Cathy Mitchell a couple times and MAN, I genuinely want one. 😅
This crap is still being pumped out on DVD now. I have one that I got at a dollar store, by some Canadian company called "Media Movies & More" (MMM). Needless to say I can't find any information about that company online. I also remember watching badly dubbed cartoons in Spanish class in high school. The teacher even joked that the guys doing the translations must've gone out for a smoke break, because one large section of the cartoon was left un-translated.
+vwestlife
Yup, even if VHS has technically died these guys find new life by pumping out TONS of cartoons out on multi-collection DVDs and considering how much you can store on a single dics, they can get a lot of cartoons out for cheap. I know the VHS tapes I have that did the same thing were able to cram SIX HOURS of PD cartoons onto a tape but I walked into Target about a year or two ago and found the same set up on DVD....with 12 HOURS.
HOLY. SHIT.
I got one of those dvds from my grandad ages ago, it had an edited version of greedy humpty dumpty where the title card had a spiral effect. me being 4 or 5 at the time I thought "damn they had that shit back in the 50's!?"
That's what you get for buying DVDs at the dollar store.
Oof so even the teacher thought those cheap dubbed cartoons were terrible.
@@Takimeko Yo las vi en televisión abierta hace mucho tiempo
The Cartoons-R-Fun series sounds like the absolute finest thing ever created.
I needed to hear two middle-aged Hispanic men voicing EVERYBODY and pasting over Looney Tunes endings.
Then again, the polish lectors weren't much better. Most foreign movies and TV series got butchered with one guy reading the script over a foreign dub. All because it was cheaper than a full dubbing cast.
@@mix3k818 Zapomniałeś wspomnieć o ile tańsze to było od nakładania napisów. Nie dość że musieliby mieć jakiś komputer
to jeszcze mieć genlock'a, i profesjonalny 4głowicowy magnetowid.
Not to mention having the rest of the audio cranked up to be clipped into oblivion.
The Cartoons-R-Fun series is the Spanish equivalent of crappy Anime fan-dubs. (20:52)
@@mix3k818 Don't even think the romanian ones were any better. I have at least two Tom and Jerry episodes lectored in romanian and by goodness gracious the quality is even more atrocious than CRF tapes, to the point you'd better watch a non-dubbed CRF (Cartoons R Fun) tape than these two T&J tapes
I remember my grandma had the "Mary had a little lamb" VHS. Watched it once. Never again. The VHS stayed in it's spot on the shelf for another decade and change.
That’s creepy as hell in my opinion
@@PichusBlueberryPies yeah a little
"Surrealist Mud" sounds like a great name for a band.
I grew up with UAV in the Southern area when i was a little kid, most of the dollar stores had VHS and DVD and i owned alot of public domain tapes and dvds from this company.
The last sequence with the middle aged Hispanic men voicing everyone and the bad sound mixing made me think i was having a stroke.
I think this is what you hear when you're in Hell.
Reminded I saw tapes like this once at Walmart years ago.
That dub was one of the most terrifying things I've ever seen but it's one of those things I can't stop watching. It's kinda like looking at a really bad car accident on the freeway almost
Erica Cole Ironically, dubs of Looney Tunes done for the Latin American market that used to be heard on Cartoon Network often made use of some corny background track that would make you think of the 1950's the way it sounded as they voiced over the original soundtrack of the cartoons, and this was official version dubbed in Mexico.
Sawbones Quad The saturation makes it look like it survived a nuclear blast.
Good lord the whole last segment of the video is so out there I actually thought there was something wrong with my laptop. Wait, people paid money for this? Seriously? The slipshod work put into these, especially the bad dialogue overdubbing, is an insult to their intended audience (no matter how inexpensive these tapes were).
This was one of the more interesting episodes of the Archive in a while. Thanks always for doing this series.
Holy crap that smack-talking bearded fanatic was *histeracle*!!!
Glad you enjoyed it.
TheOldTomster when you tread into my domain, you best beware....
It's also worth noting that in 2003, Madacy released the 1982 action/comedy film They Call Me Bruce? on DVD...however, their version made several cuts to the originally R-rated film so it would adhere to the standards of a PG rating.
Oh, and since it's not mentioned in the end credits, the final short on that Cartoons-R-Fun tape was Porky's Bear Facts (1941), for those who were wondering.
Fun fact: A more modern PD company (Starling) is known for being the worst example of Raymond Rohauer Syndrome in my experience. They renamed cartoons, added crappy Photoshop/After Effects gimmicks, and added their name wherever they could. Imagine Burbank Video (Which I own a few tapes from) but ten times worse.
And they had a terrible case of RRS, the worst case being in Hamateur Night (Or Ham Nite, as they called it), during the Romeo and Juliet scene near the end, Romeo just angrily says "Stop it now!" to the obnoxious patron instead of slapping him in the original. It's an obvious, crappy edit.
***** k
+Famulator You can find the edited version of Hamateur Night on Dailymotion, under "Ham Nite". Funnily enough, the gunshot heard after Juliet laughs like the hippo wasn't edited out.
Starling. Like those invasive birds (invasive in the US). How appropriate.
Companies like this are scummier than EA. I hope the CC0 license doesn't allow these kind of practices
Razor Ramon guy should have his own podcast just ranting about public domain releases.
The worst thing about the 1993 Madacy Video logo is that usually there's no FBI Warning before it comes up. That'll give you a scare if you don't expect it. XD
I just love how you cover all the obscure, odd details that no one notices. Your show is awesome! Keep going for this detail nut lol
There are multiple low budget Mickey Mouse VHS tapes, in all of them, the only Mickey Mouse cartoons on them are The Mad Doctor and Minnie's Yoo Hoo, then followed by two non Disney cartoons.
Mario, don’t you just hate it when you’re looking for legitimate official Disney cartoon compilation VHS tapes on eBay, etc., and find this creepy stuff? 😡
@@emmarose4234 Yes, that's annoying, but despite all that public domain VHS tapes, I managed to get a Limited Gold Edition: Mickey VHS, it even has Steamboat Willie, it will arrive today, but continuing, there are also multiple Donald Duck VHS tapes which have "The Spirit of '43", I even remember seeing there was a tape that had both a Donald Duck cartoon and a Daffy Duck cartoon, weird, isn't it?
These other two wouldn't happen to be Paramount cartoons...would it? Because I may have rented one of these from my local library decades ago lol
I have one by Kid Pics that has Alice cartoons instead of the non Disney cartoons
That last company's tape (with the Public domain cartoon and Puppetoon short in Spanish on it) for some odd reason, is one of the scariest things I have ever seen in my life. Weird...
My ex husband and I used to scour the Dollar Stores for Charlie Chaplin movies. That's about as deep as I got into that sort of thing but I would love to go further (into the tasteful ones that is, now that more attention and detail is being shown) I haven't thought about any of that until now, so I'm inspired. Love your show and have been binge-watching it. Now subscribed!
The hell was beard guy going off about anyway
The world may never know.
Geno Cuddy I like how you pull off a case of "It Never Happened"
He was doing a Scarface-themed rant on UAV.
Oh! In a related topic, Jason Scott (of Internet Archive) recently tweeted about some public domain stuff that Sony is claiming copyright over because they changed a bit of it. Just a teensy bit. So yeah, it's not just shady small companies that do it. Big ones do it as well.
Foxhack not surprised, I know one of the cult film labels Code Red tried pulling that stunt with a lost unreleased Joe Spinell film called the Undertaker. They got their hands on a butchered bootleg of the VHS work print which had scenes put out of order or cut all together and replaced by scenes of arobics to avoid getting in trouble with the owner of the actual film and when another label called Vinegar syndrome got the rights to release the actual unaltered film on Blu-ray, Code Red threatened legal action until it was pointed out that while his release was put out as The Undertaker, code red only had the rights to Death Merchant which was the name the bootleg went by. So they didn't have a leg to stand on.
Ben should do a commentary on this episode on why he decided not to fully tackle this subject.
Cool episode. We didn't have a lot of money when I was a kid so my mom would buy me the tapes of cheap, public domain cartoons, which I loved. Fleischer/Famous Studios, Van Beuren, Walter Lantz. This was in the early 90s. Years later, those tapes long gone, I ended up buying a lot of them on DVD when compilations began to pop up at dollar stores. I'm still a fan.
I'm glad I never came across those creepy Spanish dubs, though...
I should note that Vidtape, the company mentioned in the last part of this video was notorious for reusing old tapes to record cartoons on. For example, I remember watching a tape with some sort of graduation ceremony on it that they recorded over with their public domain cartoons. I think I saw a few others like that as well, but I forget what content what originally on them.
And in regards to Vidtape's Spanish dubs of the cartoons, The ABM Group here in Canada did the same thing except they dubbed the cartoons in French. I know they did a horrible dub of "Falling Hare", which they called "Un Lapin Fuyant". Might be worth mentioning if you ever do a part 2 of this video. :0)
movementent "I remember watching a tape with some sort of graduation ceremony on it that they recorded over with their public domain cartoons."
O_O
Makes you wonder 1) where they got those tapes and 2) what else they used.
@@nicholastosoni707 "2) what else they used"
Porn. Lots of porn.
@Brian Hebert Goddammit that's why I felt freaked out by those tapes they feel like someones last known recording
Inb4 they recorded over serial killer manifesto and abduction tapes
@@VectraQS and Satan's tapes too, can't forget that. No wonder it's so scary 😰
Believe it or not, Vidtape also sold blank T-120 type tapes which were also re-used! I've opened up new, sealed ones that had rental stickers on them from their previous life.
Fun Fact: The Three Stooges animated cartoon was produced by Cambria Studios, the same studio that brought you Clutch Cargo. They really upped their game since then.
Also, watching those PD tapes from Cartoons R Fun is enough to give me a headache.
I wouldn't be surprised if Cartoons R Fun had the same dub team as Dingo Pictures' stuff.
+Otaking Mikohani Dubbing company InterSound Inc/InterVision inc. does both ZIV and Harmony Golds alt dubs so they in fact own both those awful dub teams so I think you might be spot on although both sub teams at InteerSound share different voice actors on dubs both teams did at the same time which there has been a few.
The so called Disney one they did was a Poo Gold live action film on 3rd party label called Heidi so they never done Disney dubbing at all and thats a lie but the ZIV and Harmony Gold I think is a truth as both are almost on PD level although look like Disney compared to bottom of the barrel bad PD but I do think they are 2 dubbing alias names of each other as they are both InterSound own brand teams be it in the same building or different ones.
@@wrestletube1 Actually vidtape was using children as the voices for their spanish dubs. The founders of vidtape went to jail for child labor since they weren't paying the children any money
I'm surprised Vidtape got everything bad with a VHS. Bad sound quality, grainy video, badly edited dubbing, and the infamous static in the background. Of course this won't happen nowadays with both digital technology and the needs to license these, but the late 80s had a ton of these crappy PD video distributors, usually of mixed quality. They'd almost always have something wrong, and the silent films especially were a huge cluster (Madacy).
I have been hoping there would be some sort of archive of these video companies out there, awesome work Ben!!! I collect Goodtimes' horror and sci-fi VHS tapes, primarily from their early years- I agree, they are some of the best PD VHS releases. Brava!!
As a huge fan of old movies since my childhood in the 80’s, I feel your pain on low quality bootlegs of some VHS releases of movies. Though there are awful DVD’s too. I had the worst quality collection of an old Sherlock Holmes series that I loved dearly. I think I wore the tapes out.
I remember the late 70s, when Public Domain prints started popping up on UHF TV stations. Sometimes you saw an incredibly muddy print of something like THE SOUTHERNER(Late 40s), and sometimes decent prints of former rarities like Laurel and Hardy's UTOPIA/ATOLL K, and Al Jolson's HALLELUJAH I'M A BUM.
That was also how, until NBC acquired exclusive rights in the late 90s, It's a Wonderful Life became a holiday classic...its PD status made it a December staple on local stations, cable networks, etc.
6:59 - Even today as I come here to rewatch this, that Madacy logo is *still* hilarious. So completely nuts, it cracks me up every time.
I remember my grandparents had some public domain cartoon tapes that were pretty good. One was about a boy and girl ice skating, and some squirrels doing the same thing, and there's a little break up and reunion. Another was a city thing that ended with a building flooding and the "fire men" put out the water with a hose that sprays fire. They were pretty good I think, but I was also 4.
I think I know one of the cartoons you’re talking about. The one with the fire hose I think was called “Crazy Town”. It was released in 1953.
@@KoryGilesMusicGroup thank you for the memory, that is one of the cartoons and there were many jokes I didn't get because I was too little (like the horse race).
@@catholiccontriversy No problem! I’m happy that I was able to restore one of your childhood memories.
Happy to see you finally covering the "Cartoons R Fun" tapes, those things are legendary.
Also that UAV thing, while funny... it just went on way too long.
Anyway, speaking of poorly done cartoon edits... any chance in you covering "The Radio & Television Packagers" Redrawns? Those things have always fascinated me (Particularly the Bosko Short "Up's n' Downs" aka. "Off to the Races"), and I'd love to see your take on them.
And for those of you wondering, the composition heard at 8:17 is "Mr. Jelly Lord", also by Jelly Roll Morton.
"If this plan fails I will quit and go back to New Jersey!"
--Founder of Amvest Video
I shall turn Care-a-Lot into...NEW JERSEY!
Trans-Atlantic Video didn't have to worry about that when they folded, considering where their headquarters were located! LOL
Emma Rose Robot Chicken reference I see
Dear lord, Ed's constant cursing gives me bad memories of NC17 Productions and Mariotehplumber when doing "reviews" of video games by trying to emulate AVGN (and failing miserably)...
Also gotta love the text commentary you did on him. Reminds me of DLAbaoaqu and his "I Can't Believe It's Not AVGN!" series where he does the same thing. Inspired by him, by any chance? :-)
BTW, great job teaching me (and the others) about the various public domain VHS companies! Never knew just how much of pros and cons each one of them had. Quite interesting, to say the least. :D
Mariotehplumber is still doing videos and he's even worse than before you think him reviewing the modern sonic games and calling them crap because it should have the classic sonic was bad take a look at his e3 2015 video and his amiibo video you would be smashing you're computer by the time you watched those.
+goldylover1000 My girlfriend and I talked about how the Sonic Fan Base is so broken. You have morons who want a return to the 2D graphics, and the classic pre-1998 character designs, and then the cry babies who cry about a redesign that's exclusive to a spin-off series. Don't get me started on those insane fans who want to be swallowed whole by Sonic, and lose their identity whilst merging with Sonic (That's the meaning behind Sonic Dreams Collection).
My response to those morons would be: *rant starting* Come on, this is 2015, not 1991, grow up a little. If we all followed your "ideology" we'd never make any progress. As for you cry-babies, it's only a spin-off. *rant over*
Anyhoo, you're right goldylover1000, biasing games because they don't have the pre-1998 character designs is like biasing a video game console emulator because it's not like the actual console.
The only difference being that you can get the actual console you want because there's always people who sell old consoles. You can't simply request Sega to change the character designs back to their pre-1998 designs, you might as well tell the Coca-Cola Company to bring back New Coke, and replace the original recipe with the New Coke recipe. If that happened, then the Coca-Cola Company would go out of business unless they bring back the old recipe (they had to when back in the 80s when New Coke was causing them to lose money).
Sorry for the long-winded speech.
+Andrew Schroy I don't think that's Ed.
I remember Asaliari calling him PG13 Productions lol
The guy's name is actually Geno Cuddy.
George Pal + Anonymous Spanish Dubbers + Quality degradation = Video Hell
Nice touch on the intro giving it the "VHS look"
Fulgencio Pritchett Then it will look legit.
WPIX! I live in New York
he didnt give it a vhs look, he actually put it on a vhs tape
We got bombarded by this crap everywhere in New Jersey. Doesn't help that like 3 of these companies were churning out these tapes out of sketchy alleys of towns that aren't ever going to be on "Top 10 of Best Places to Live in New Jersey". I think everyone in the state owned at least one copy of the "Cartoon Favorites" line at one time. Yeah, people bought them by the truckload for some reason.
I love this! This is how I was introduced to Chaplin - I am sharing this with my Modern Times Podcast group. I thought I was the only one who appreciated those crap-tacular releases. I still have them all even though I now have them on Bluray.
So the dude from 10:45-13:15 was a special guest? I thought it was the evil side of OA locked up and suppressed for many years who also had a streak of Razor Ramon for some reason. Dude "droned" on a bit about UAV eh? *boo hiss*
As for UAV, their 2nd company logo was far more interesting.
th-cam.com/video/W_g5ZhLQ98c/w-d-xo.html
That dude is like something you'd see on the television when you're trying to hijack the television signal, Max Headroom, Captain Midnight or Vrillon style!
I guess my job is done, lol.
I once got a 3-disc set of The Three Stooges from Madacy for Christmas. In the end, it only had FOUR SHORTS, plus a poor-quality version of Kook's Tour, some really cheesy trivia, a screensaver, and some poor-quality versions of the cartoons.
But it did come in a tin case with a button that played random Stooges soundbites, so at least there's that, I guess?
Sounds about right for a public domain release, given all VHS/DVD Stooges compilations from the likes of Madacy, etc, contain the 4 shorts whose copyrights expired during the 60s (Brideless Groom, Disorder In the Court, Malice In the Palace and Sing a Song of Six Pants).
@ENCRYPTED - I watch classic OA episodes all the time, usually right before a new one!
'Never afraid to tackle the tough issues--just don't expect a straight answer or anything.'
So you're a politician.
That last tape... Wow! I was dozing off when hearing that and I had some screwed up nightmares. It was like the sort of thing a serial killer would play at their house.
Those dubs tho at the end , man that last cartoon was freaky the pie one I can't unsee that . Especially if you understand what they're saying.
What were they saying
Try watching the original print which I quickly did after I saw it. Its called Jasper and the Haunted House and HOO-BOY, it is dated beyond everything. As someone who likes stop-motion, I LIKE the stop-motion....but as a Black woman I can't help but laugh uncomfortably at EVERYTHING about the thing. Still though, when it comes to cartoons that have really racist overtones can I admit that this is actually not the WORST? There are worst, MUCH worse, but man it makes you realize of the shit that was deemed as okay back in the day. The print from this video is nightmare inducing though mostly due to the print and how eye-straining it is. If I have nightmares tonight, I know what to blame.
I agree. I stupidly decided to sit through those. Sometimes, I'm glad I don't understand Spanish.
emptyspotlight what did it say
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid I think the worst one is scrub me mama with a boogie beat. That cartoon is so offensive that it was banned only a few years after it came out
That CG Madacy logo made me think of the Interplay logo on their CD based games back in the early-middle 90s, especially their 3DO releases. Then again a lot of games had that style of sound on that system too... Also that... uhm.. cameo was like watching the Ultimate Warrior of VHS Fandom, on crack, doing a bad Scarface voice and it was kind of terrifying.
+Kaye Faye Would said Interplay logo be the one where a green marble rectangle flies in space, and a red laser writes out "Interplay" on it while a really bombastic orchestra tune plays and lasts about 40-45 seconds long? If so, I think I know what you're talking about. :D
I first saw that logo on my copy of Cyberia-- the Sega Saturn version.
+Andrew Schroy that's the one.
I remember Burbank Video! Yes...their tapes were sometimes really crappily mastered at times. Sometimes the "tape" would catch, run backwards, and then run forwards, even if you had bought a perfectly good tape (I suspect it was their fault).
That Cameo reference was perfect
I have and still have two Cartoons-R-Fun tapes that I had since I was a baby. One is a Bugs Bunny tape of Fresh Hare. And the other one is a Daffy Duck tape of Daffy's Southern Exposure. Looking back on them now, they are pretty cheap. And after seeing stuff about them online it sure quite astounding. Cheap and laziness really comes to mind with these tapes.
A good example of this is that my Bugs Bunny tape actually has a label, but my Daffy one doesn't. For years I wonder why my Daffy tape didn't come with one. However one day I got the label on my Bugs tape wet, then I discover that there was another label, a stamped label underneath it.
Then I came to the conclusion that the only reason they bother to put a label is to cover whatever the hell was on the tape originally, and that my Daffy Duck tape never had a label.
As matter of fact I had the covers to these tapes at one point. Now my Bugs cover was the right cover. However my Daffy cover was for other Daffy Cartoons R Fun tape Daffy Duckaroo. I'm not sure if the woman that gave me the tape in the beginning lost the cover to it and must of used another cover that was the same company.
But knowing how cheap and lazy they are, I think they actually package the tape with the wrong cover.
Because the woman that gave me the tapes wasn't to in to cartoons and just bought these tapes just because she heard about my birth. So I don't think she knew to well what was on the tapes and probably didn't care.
But whatever if was cheap or not, it did introduce me to the Looney Tunes as those two cartoons were the first ever Looney Tunes I ever watched. Without those tapes I might have never seen a Looney Tunes cartoon in my life.
10:36 Well. It was only a matter of time before an "Archive Gets Hijacked" gag.
Does Ben’s face (what little we can see of it, anyway) remind anyone else of Zach Braff?
I was thinking Danny Tamberelli
@@Betapvnk I was thinking more Danny tamberelli too
@@Cherryberrygirl89 dude, you have some great horror playlists 🤘🏻🤘🏻
In the case of the Charlie Chaplin stuff, this is typically a case of simply playing duplicate prints at normal sound speed (24fps) instead of slowing them down and doing a real mastering job to something more suited to an official release (which this isn't). Silent films often got shafted in this regard when not coming from reputable sources or having the right people who know what they're doing.
5:44 Love that snare drum sound like a .45 pistol shot. Ideal to scare people before starting the recording.
Please do another episode of public domain videos including the Fletcher Studios cartoons. I would love to hear your opinions on some of their films.
Rrgh, that strange random part...I *should* forget it but it's hard for me. Oh well, Little Lulu, one of the --cute 'ol girls-- old cartoons I've found out about recently, along with Little Audrey (thanks to the Happy Hamster video)!
22:00 This was recorded in real time, I assume; When...Lulu goes up to the big one's ear, there's an obvious pause of him switching voices!
You found the early UAV logo. Good job👍👍
Good lord, you weren't kidding about the Spanish-speaking people in the cartoons. At first I thought it would be something similar to the awful Warner Bros. TV dubs we got down here in Mexico, where every spoken segment got dubbed... and had the same stupid song playing in the background, but no, this is worse.
And that Jasper and the Haunted House has some amazing animation. It made me cringe really hard, of course.
You've made me want to make a couple of videos about a related subject, but I dunno where to start...
The founders of vidtape went to jail for child labor. They used children as the voice actors for those spanish cartoons but didn't pay them any money
Jasper and the haunted house was released when most racist jokes in cartoons were still considered acceptable. Black people had exaggerated lips and loved to eat watermelons, Asians had squinty eyes and buck teeth, and natives spoke in broken English and wanted to kill white people.
UAV had other licensed videos besides MTM (note: MTM was bought out by the now defunct ITV [UK] channel TVS (Television South) at that time) and Filmation, they got licenses from Steven Lisberger (for "Animalympics"), Total Television (to release Underdog and Tenessee Tuxedo) as well as Perennial Pictures (for their Holiday content like "Aliens First Christmas") and during UAV's existence they also released videos of "Drawing Power!" (a short-lived series from the team behind School House Rock) and Mr. Know It Owl
While the quality on UAV's tapes is not perfect, It's a pleasure to get your hands on these gems and watch them
Still, I recall those early UAV releases of typical PD toonage when they just started and never had an opening logo yet.
I have a Daffy Duck tape from 1989 (they had a logo back then) that was released by them, and yet there's no logo at the beginning? Huh?
James Fox
TVS sold MTM to News Corporation a few years ago
9:03 Jelly Roll Morton, Dead Man Blues. Love that intro.
Another strange thing, they sold an Italian film done from the VHS master tape with the inlay to the better version with improved picture quality, bonus material, additional original sound.
First Oddity Archive episode I ever watched, a couple months after this episode got uploaded! Still one of my favorites!😁👌
Those Cartoons-R-Fun videos are simply horrid, especially with the forced, poorly timed Spanish dubbing.
That Ed segment was HILARIOUS!
12:50 -- Is it wrong that I heard "Tele-Fuckin'-TED"?
Tele-Funken-Ted
Fuzy2K yes and no
You should take a look at the video releases from a company called Saturn Productions (if you haven't already.) I heard that the company dubbed over the original soundtrack of their films with a single synthesizer track.
Back to the video, interesting episode.
I remember seeing stuff on the news about bootlag cartoon tapes when I was little. I didn't understand nor I remember what was the bad news was about.
22:50 is a horrible Spanish dubbed version of "Mary's Little Lamb". And guess what, I have it on 8mm and it was silent and in black and white. Unlike the Charlie Chaplin PD stuff, it does the same too. Castle Films did put out silent cartoons on 8mm. I hope that soon, you should talk about Castle Films home movies on 8mm and 16mm on a future "Oddity Archive" where he can talk about silent cartoons.
Castle Film's Silent Output is oddly VERY Obscure. The Thing I do remember seeing as a Kid Poorly Dubbed in Spanish was "Dick Worthington's Cat".
Other Stuff from them was "Old Mother Hubbard". Another VERY Obscure Short Subject label from the 30s is "Van Buren" on RKO Pictures. "Mr Bang in Trolley Ahoy".
@@Tornado1994 And of course, the Castle Films’ black & white versions of ComiColor cartoons by Ub Iwerks is obscure, but Castle used their alternate B&W title cards for their reissues of ComiColor cartoons for both opening and closings. The three ComiColor cartoons “Don Quixote”, “Simple Simon” and “Jack and the Beanstalk” were in reissued in B&W where it had the copyright years of 1945 at the very end, and it uses the Castle Films sky logo. These were very obscure.
Have you ever seen "Raymond Rohauer Presents 'The Sneeze?'"
I'm glad this episode cropped up in my recommended videos again. A few years after I first saw this I eventually found myself buying from a "public domain" video vendor. I have the same mixed feelings regarding those kind of companies but it was the only way I could get a hold of some more rare vintage TV. While it was better than a lot of the releases featured, they still made the edits to have their own copyright that may or may not even be valid. The show itself is still available in it's country of origin but the English version never even made it to home video.
That cut in was awesome!!!!!
Thanks, it was my idea, you should see what wound up on the cutting room floor, perhaps on the special edition DVD.
The Cartoons R Fun stuff reminds of the Video Square releases from Thailand. At least with Cartoons R Fun they have the audio track in the background. With Video Square it just awkwardly cuts from the original audio to the voices without any background tracks.
My eyes bled more then my ears on the Spanish Dub... I might go blind because of it. At least the Spanish voice dubbing wasn't as bad what it was speaking over or it would have been really bad.
Ben can I hug you? Thank you for mentioning Burbank Video! I still have a few tapes from this company (my favorite being the Christmas compilation tape which has a great, albeit weirdly dubbed, cartoon from Russia that I love) and I have ALWAYS wondered why they added the sound effects to the cartoons since, when I got older and found a lot of episodes on TH-cam, they were no where to be found. Now that I know, I guess makes sense but it still doesn't make the whole thing any less weird (or annoying considering the types of sounds they put in) I will compliment them though for having one of the catchiest logos when it comes to public domain stuff though.
Meredith Caudle I had a Burbank copy of some Popeye cartoons and remember hearing extra sound effects. It was strange. The added sounds were so much louder than the other sounds and it got really annoying after a while.
+Amanda Bernhardt
Thinking back, it makes me laugh because it made me realize I was a KID when I got these tapes and thought nothing odd of it at the time, that was until I got other PD tapes with the same cartoons, often uncut, without the sound effects. In some cases, the added ringing and bells fit (read: all the Christmas cartoons they had) but yes....it was off-putting now since in a lot of other cases the added soud-effects just got in the way.
Did that Christmas cartoons tape have the Howdy Doody Holiday Special?
***** YES IT DID! 8D
That was the first episode of Howdy Doody I had officially seen and it was thanks to that Christmas collection!
Are you thinking of _The Snow Queen?_ Think I have that on East-West DVD.
Those Spanish public domain cartoons dubs are pretty scary these dubs make 4kids look like funimation in comparison
It gets worse, the founders of that company went to jail for child labor. They were using children as the voice actors for those cartoons and not paying them any money
18:45 I happen to have some $1 DVDs with the good old cartoons, including "The New [*now old*] Three Stooges". On the Digiview DVDs, the opening (and closing) music must've been made by some musician who specialized in generic synthesized looping music. Is it supposed to be a "new and improved" Three Stooges theme song??? I'll say *no* because it ain't original! At least the voices and sound effects were not changed. The ones on Mill Creek, kept the original music. Maybe they know better.
I also have a GoodTimes DVD that featured Felix the Cat in "Bold King Cole", "The Goose That Laid the Golden Eggs" and "Neptune Nonsense" as well as other '30s and '40s cartoons. Digitally restored (as it said on the case). Maybe true for the picture quality, *BUT* the sound effects were tampered with (in Stereo with Dolby Digital)! Well, at least it wasn't like that on the Mill Creek DVDs. Oh yes, I also happen to have a $1 VHS tape by Alpha Video and it has the 3 Felix cartoons. Even in EP mode, it looks decent and the sound effects are kept original.
I had the one at 25:10 when I was a kid. "Working can wait!" Thanks Ben.
3:41 into it ... Kid, you've got The Bug! I got The Bug when I was about 6, I suspect ... reliably, 8, which would be about 1961 ... (67 now)
I've been making movies since I was 17 ... half a century?? Time flies when you're having fun!
12:11
Ben, you missed one :P
I've always been a fan of the Cartoons R Fun series of tapes- distributed here in the UK by a company called Video Zone. I've got a rather amusing copy of one tape which is recorded on a recycled Thomas The Tank Engine video, some of which is still present as the tape wasn't erased before it was recorded over.
A little while ago I also saw a French copy of one of the tapes from this series which quite frankly was awful. It was copied in black and white, was French dubbed and the end of the tape contained a recording from a French tv station, suggesting that the tape was made on a home VCR.
Also, I'm not sure if you're interested but the Spanish Heckle and Jeckle tape which you played in this clip doesn't appear to contain the same cartoons as on the English version of the tape.
I totally agree with you.
UAV released an awful VHS of Assignment Terror (Under the bait-and-switchy title of Dracula vs Frankenstein) which for some strange reason has the Intervision logo from the UK from the late 1970s/Early 80s and looks like a garbage EP home recording compared to A.T's bluray release
Goodtimes Home Video also released some of the private label VHS classics which use the FBI Warning Screen
Little House on the Prairie
The Baby-Sitters Club
That may have been one of the scariest stingers he may have had on this show too.
I actually had Jasper & The Haunted House on a public domain DVD once.
22:57 the color signal is almost completely LOST from this point not only the tint is off but EVERYTHING everything bleeds.
Yay generation loss! 🎉
Look up a SIGGRAPH film festival short called "Flying Logos!" from the early 1990s! HILARIOUS!!!
Hey man. I just wanted to complement you on how much effort you put on your videos. I can see some great potential in you. I hope that you won't ever get tired of making these fantastic and interesting archives of yours, and that you may reach 1M Subs soon.
I remember having some Diamond Entertainment Corporation VHS tapes (specifically, I remember one of the 50 Classics tapes, although, I think I had more). The covers looked weird, but the tapes themselves were pretty good quality.
I grew up with a lot of the cartoons on these tapes. I really enjoyed them, but the prints were usually TV prints made in the 50s that had poor color and lots of splices. I’m happy to say I’ve never seen the Spanish tapes, and I hope I never do.
Thanks!
Huh, I'm pretty sure I've seen some of the tapes that bearded guy was talking about. There's a store in eastern Colorado that used to carry random stuff like that.
Apparently,UAV was also responsible for a ants life, a mockbuster of a bugs life released in 1998. This was created by Michael shelp,who created sparkplug entertainment. So UAV was indirectly responsible for creating one of,if not the worst animation studios of all time. Also a ants life was latter released under sparkplug entertainment.
Good episode! But now I'm trying to figure out why TH-cam recommends a show about kids with freakishly large foreheads because of my enjoyment of your show. They're really creeping me out...
Right?
One of the characters in that show is named Odd ( which is Norwegian, but the character is an Italian in France.) Tagging issues?
Nicole Richwine odd? That gave me god damn Code Lyoko vibes for a sec
@@pxlfighter5400 *F O R E H E A D S*
Am I dead yet?
E-e-e-eso es todo, amigos!
I remember owning some public domain DVDs when I was little
@19:28; YES! I have HAD some of those videos with the added little zingers and such on them!
Dingo pictures are pictures for Dingos
"Politically correct" types would be WELL-ADVISED…
I didn't read the warning when I watched this.
The dubs made in these videocasettes are pretty hilarious and creepy at the same time. OMG I saw those tapes in stores in Mexico, and never dared to bought any of them, first because they seemed very pirate to me. Second, it's freaking Bugs Bunny, I had them on TV all the time, and I had a lot of VHS tapes to record almost everything.
If I ever had one of those in hand when I was 6 I probably would had nightmares!
I sense a pretty peculiar accent in the voices, very local to me. It's mexican, but not from the northern border. More like the southeast part of the country.
Some cheap DVDs are only good for using the box for another DVD
In the credits, in the Vidtape section, you forgot to put in Porky's Bear Facts (1941).
The last example is good to prank people