Oddity Archive: Episode 81 - Nanny Boxes (TV Content Filters)
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Good God we had a TVguardian in my house briefly when I was a kid. I say briefly because it would frequently censor words without regard for context and then me and my sister would ask our parents questions they weren't prepared to answer. For instance; while watching toy story, it would change Woody's name to "feelings"... there are no words.
"Look, I'm feelings! Howdy howdy howdy!"
Feelings the toy cowboy. Reach for the stars or however the saying goes.
😂😂😂😂😂
technology brought to you by focus on the family...or whoever was in charge of family video. mormons....?🤷🏾♀️
@@joer-tard2821 Family Video? That was a great place.
If you ever do a follow up, you should have tried the South Park Movie!
Or Fritz the Cat!
+Larry Bundy Jr Or George Carlin's 7 Dirty Words!!!
Or clerks
Or superbad
+Larry Bundy Jr And no one is wondering why Guru Larry is commenting on a video on a (still) fairly obscure TH-cam channel, which most Brits don't really know about.
Someone should make a box that adds MORE swearing. Like it monitors the closed-captioning and inserts SHITS and FUCKS into family oriented programming.
You've just gave me a great idea.
jgwest1 VidDevil
As a Dora hater, I wanted Swiper The Fox to get his own show, each episode having 3 versions, rated TV-Y7, TV-14 and TV-MA respectively!
$80 a year to keep your ClearPlay box up to date? That's enough to make anyone swear.
+RegularCapital
GOOD EVENING, PEOPLE OF CLEARPLAY!
$80 A YEAR? NO WAY!
(VIDANGEL AND TVGUARDIAN, BEWARE!)
+Rampant Mouse he's a frikin nerd
I wonder ClearPlay will filter teen titans go from airing..
You know your box is useless when it lefts the F bomb through.
Ah, yes, back when there were just parents...
... and the FCC
... and the MPAA
... and Moral Majority style "family values" pressure groups
... and numerous outdated obscenity laws
This kind of stuff really does make my skin crawl, though, especially the strange fixation on "bad" words. Besides, if you're going to censor movies, you should do it the right way: by turning raunchy dialog into bizarre, word salad non-sequiturs which can change intense drama and action into surrealist comedy on a dime.
Bad/funny TV edits really should be preserved IMO, they are like their own weird, mutant art form.
Funny thing is it was the Democrats that were pushing for nanny boxes
I want to see someone make a infomercial style sketch parody about a nanny box that flat out changes scenes and dialogue to make them family friendly and the results end up looking like a live action 4Kids edit or like a scene out of a spoof movie like Airplane.
You should totally make a homebrew Oddity Archive Nanny Box. In addition to censoring foul language, any time someone watches movies like Wreck-It Ralph, The Lion King, or Frozen, it will skip over the W*lt Di--vx logos!
I'm currently whistling zippity doo-dah out of my idiot.
Freako That's what happens when you "find a stranger in the Alps." :p
+generalcoon47
Paging Dr. Ashens
+Nicholas Tosoni what about "bite me in the Alps!"
Pseudo Nym
...It's a new one on me, but I'll take your word for it.
prove it
So to prove that families watching TV together are constantly bombarded with profanity, they chose "The Wolf of Wall Street" as an example? An R-rated, very mature-themed movie that is not in any way intended for children? How about instead of paying for a censor subscription, you take a second to look at what movie you're about to play before you show it to your kids?
Roy Unit VidAngel was marketing towards the Christian market.
@@MysteryMii No cursing in my Christian minecraft DVD
See that would be way too hard, because parenting is supposed to be easy and looking at the movie rating before you watch it, that's tough.
In all seriousness, a lot of this is just parents who don't do any research on the movie or show they're about to watch, or game they're buying for their kids, so when it's pointed out to them that it's ultimately their fault for not vetting the content they allow their children to consume, it's more important for them to instead blame everyone else, and not themselves
8:55
That percentage though.
Doc Brown 69% ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I absolutely hate sex on TV. I always end up falling off.
TV censorship is so absolutely stupid. Overhere in Germany you can basically show and say anything on any channel at any time of the day and guess what, we are all still alive. Especially today where every kid has internet access anyway. Completely pointless. If parents take care of their children and educate them accordingly, they know how to handle profanity and are "capable" of hearing harsh language without losing all values and social competence at once.
Holy Shit, German TV has more freedom of speech than the US.
How ironic is this?
yeah from what i've heard, softcore porn was aired after the watershed sometimes in 1980s west germany
Sounds pretty much like Kiwi TV.
It's hard to believe even the work 'fuck' gets censored on late night talk shows in the U.S.
“TV profanity has increased by 69%…” *Nice.*
One thing to mention, there was a company called "CleanFlicks" that sold edited movies on video and DVD (I think "South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut" was probably one of the ones they sold). I fondly remember my high school history teacher having one of those for the Oliver Stone film "JFK". The Directors Guild of America also went after them alongside "ClearPlay", and was ruled in the DGA's favor.
they had some edited versions of movies for schools which I guess were legal, there's an edited version of the passion of the christ but many preachers think kids should see the unedited version
the oddity archive: you'll be whistling zippity doo-dah out of your idiots
The chick in the woolly cardigan is such a perfect example of the community all these embarrassing failure are shilling at. In fact, I am surprized she is allowed to have her hair down... Immodest hussy!
These products obviously only work based on closed captioning signals and can't affect other styles of subtitling or censor the audio when the offending language isn't represented in the closed captioning (or, obviously, if the closed captioning doesn't perfectly match up with the timing of the dialogue).
It's a neat idea, but it has such glaring faults that it can't be anything close to a substitute for just doing some parenting and making sure your kids aren't watching stuff you don't want them to watch!
I think I remember seeing ads for stuff like this back in the late 90's and early 00's. Even back then, I thought they were ridiculous.
Surprised you didn't mention that guy that owned a video rental store, and he would edit the videos he rented out to remove all offensive content. I think he got sued by the studios for copyright infringement.
Parents want to watch movies with their kids that they can all enjoy? Haven't they ever heard of Dis--- I mean, Famous Animator of Mice and Fairy Tales? XD
Of course, these censors would have a problem every little thing with those movies, too. Donald would have pants and Ariel would wear a long-sleeved turtleneck instead of sea shells.
11:13 I just love it when someone produces content with graphics and DOESN'T SPELL CHECK!
1:06. Your home for *sunshine* , *lollipops* , and *rainbows* .
The funny thing about the moral panic which created the legislation for the v-chip is that Congress convinced everyone of how necessary it was, legislated it as a requirement, and just a couple years later, after it was required to be in place on every consumer set and box, the vast majority of adults fell into the categories of "didn't know it existed" or "didn't know how to use it". And that majority numbers grew every year. Now, I'm all for consumer choice and protection, but this was just pandering.
Ben, this is the first time, in the history of Archive, that you discussed something that I had no idea existed, good on you boy!
Albert Giesbrecht The above was a censored version of what I was thinking in my head.
Every kid I grew up with that had over protective parents that would use things like this and not let their kids watch R rated movies turned out all fucked up as adults. Sex addicts, Heroin addicts, drug addicts alcoholics, teen age mothers, criminals, high school drop outs, prostitutes for drugs etc. The few that didn't go down this path have no personality and are not people you would want to spend time with. So good thing you didn't let your kid hear the word fuck or see an R rated movie; you totally ruined your kids lives. If the worst thing in your kids life is seeing the word fuck; they probably have a pretty sheltered environment and maybe it would be good to expose the horrors of the word to them before they see it themselves.
up-rate for sampling craig ferguson... god i miss'im on tv these days...
@11:04
The reason why it needs a composite input, is because embedded closed captioning (608 line 21 or 708) does not work over HDMI. There is absolutely no support for it at all on this connection! Sucks, eh? As such, it is not supported on Blu-Ray, either.
That's incredible that a company would charge $80 a month just to do a service that they supposedly felt so empowered by.
I find the fact that the Vidangel ad depicts the family with black hoods over their heads as if they're being executed far more offensive and disturbing than any of the "curses" that are shooting paintballs at them.
I know you're not out to give history lessons, but I wish you had talked about the movies that were changed by religious groups then rented.
On a side note, I remember Blazing Saddles having the fart scene censored but the n-bombs let fly.
I found one of these things in my basement back in 2006. I didn't know what it was, but it sure as hell scared me.
One GOOD use for an older TV Guardian box is that you can use it as just an external closed-caption decoder turning off the censoring, which might be useful if TVs ever stop including those for analog signals. If you actually wanted to watch a censored movie would you have to keep the captions turned on though? There's a VidAngel app on Roku boxes now, but they still have that weird system where you have to buy every movie at full price and sell it back, and I don't have time to test that out.
imagine the terminator with nothing offensive to anyone in it... it'd be like 10 minutes long...
I've never heard of Nanny Boxes until this episode (I've heard of Net Nanny but not Nanny Boxes). YOU ROCK BEN!!!
one of my former neighbors had TVGuardian box for a few days......they hated cursing in their TV shows/movies and thought it would be a good idea....i asked them about it after a few days and they said he tried to imitate it by saying "I XXXX it, it really XXXX"....and then he said "I hate it, it really sucks"....and said it was that sensitive....it would censor anything including words like "whiskey" and "cigarettes" cutting out the whole sentence. It wouldn't be so bad if there was a buffer in them that would just read the caption data a few seconds before being displayed and bleep out words like TV shows do
Another fine episode of the Oddity Archive.
15:35 - Because no Oddity Archive episode would be complete without hearing the late, great Walter Matthau tell the also-late, also-great Jack Lemmon to eat his shorts.
Walter Matthau was the inspiration for Homer even
Ben MiXXXXXX is my favorite DJ.
Great episode, Ben!
Goes without saying, Ben, this is great stuff. Best episode of Season 4 so far. Also wonderful to hear "Pavanned" again (even in "filtered" form in the close).
Pavanned - check
DING! - check
TV off visual effect - check
It's Archive, all right!
Unfiltered & Uncensored!
(bonus: reference to UAV guy's unauthorized profane laced broadcast invasion from OA #65)
One of the best XXXXing episodes ever.
In accordance with Section 5 of the TV clause, I can no longer say fu-
Using Blazing Saddles on those poor boxes... that's just mean 😂😂
Great episode!
Nanny boxes? We don't need no stinkin' Nanny Boxes!!!!!!!
Love your name of these devices nanny boxes
Good episode. I enjoyed seeing the Beta footage. Never really seen much of that before.
8:02 the nostalgia is real, I remember using this interface in 2012(I'm still a teen)
Anyone notice how the censoring TTS voice seemed to be the EAS bot?
Dang, those credits are really *low hissing noise*!
The TVGuardian reminds me of when A&E aired reruns of The Sopranos for a little while.
in other words : *Censorship Boxes* ...only in Amerikkka
What could be so bad in Barney miller that needed to be censored
The most asinine thing is it's apparently okay with racist epithets which I mean I can at least see the argument about those having actual capacity to harm, but no, it's only concerned about nondescript swear words that are considered "impolite." So if it's a racial slur that's ALSO considered a swear word (like the N-word) it'll get censored, but not something that's just as racist despite not being a specific slur.
Parenting... so 40's.... Ninten DO what parents don't!
If there was people out there willing to parent there kids PROPERLY!!!, we would not be in the SJW hell that we are in now....
*Ninten-does
The minute the time machine is invented, im going to find and convince the creator of the v chip to not make it.
Am I the only one who quoted along with Kinison's scene from Back to School
16:30 Oh thank God. I'm so glad my delicate ears were not subjected to "man." People assuming genders should be banned from the airwaves.
what?
Zawmbbeh It's a joke. The box was supposed to edit out John Travolta saying "fucking," but due to its unmitigated shitiness, the box edited out, "man." I tried to come up with a theoretical situation where the censorship of man would be warranted.
TL;DR Don't explain the joke.
Sorry liberals, there are only two genders: [*bleep*] and [audio cut-out]
That (profanity voice) sounds like Bonzi buddy
I want to see someone make an infomercial style sketch about a nanny box that completely changes scenes and dialogue to make them family friendly and the results end up being nonsensical and weird like a live action 4Kids edit or like something out of a spoof movie like Airplane or a G rated Scary Movie.
If I were to let my kids watch R rated movies, I'll make _D***N_ sure they can handle it before letting them watch.
10:27 the solution is simple JUST DON'T SHOW THEM THE ******* MOVIE!!
The problem I had with censoring what my boy watched was trying to keep kids ads from him I didn't want him to turn into a depraved capitalist consumer. I didn't care about profanity or mild violence or nudity because that's life and he needed to learn about life and what not to say or do. He's turned out quite well even if he doesn't swear as much as I would like him to.
Yeah, just use the V-Chip/ratings lock instead of trying to censor shit.
Oh gosh darn it all to doodily heck I'm glad I never had one of these (frigging censored) boxes growing up. Oh come on I can't say frigging?
Is the TV guardian thing the same piece of shi I mean uh garbage I found at almost every Christian bookstore I go to?
“How is he anyway?”
Hey. I love the archive! I was wondering if you could look into making an episode on DSL and their ISP's
It's not really that odd. I myself have VDSL2.
There’s one called Chip or something like that on TVs
V-Chip
No one can't censor Samuel L. Jackson!!! ✊✊✊
Btw I remember when I was a kid and was caught watching porn on HBO (in Belize we were and still able to do do that for free) and my mom made my dad put on the V-Chip but since I have those counter that you press down to count up I made attempts to crack the code and use the counter to keep track
BRO CLEAR PLAY BE WATCHIN SPIDERWICK?
I wonder if they ever made a nanny box for music?
How do these devices have better automatic subtitles than TH-cam?
The subtitles are embedded into the vertical blanking interval of the video.
The subtitles are already on the show/movie/whatever, the box scans the subtitles for profanity, replaces the words, and mutes the sound if it finds anything.
It would be interesting to see how all these technologies would deal with Chubby Brown.
Where is your theme music from?
Now with 100% more swearing!
"You'll be whistling Zippty-do-dah out of your idiots!"
I was expecting this censorship to be hilarious, like the ones done in English dubbed anime. I was sadly disappointed.
4Kids Entertainment before there was 4Kids Entertainment.
they would’ve coincided. 4-kids were at their peak in the 90’s and 2000’s and the first wave of nanny boxes came out around 97/98
9:37 what is the model of the player?
(Update: Found it! The model is DRC247N and it's from RCA)
Nanny boxes: whistles zippity doo-dah out of comment idiots. Thanks, V-Chip!
Can you make an episode about the early years of HDTV?
+Dmitry Darsavilidze He did a bit on that in the analog TV episode.
I've always wondered what's your intro music
It's his own composition, titled "Pavanned".
14:46 Make up your mind, Bela.
Nowadays due to current political climate, now even streaming services are changing classic movies and television due to outdated attitudes and effectively becoming their own nanny boxes.
Okay. Ben. What is the context for that blotted-out Univision screencap at 2:30?
Foxhack I think that's from the American EXXXtasy episode (it's in the OA Lost Episodes page)
The -lyrics- auto-generated subtitles for Pavanned (Intro)
"good done
do
good
do
good"
Beautiful.
The -lyrics- auto-generated subtitles for Pavanned (Outro) : do do do do good
What microphone do you use?
Well, this video was demonized.
Oops. I meant demonitized.
It became demon
I wanna see casino and wolf of Wall Street 😂
8:57 Nice.
So USA.
5:31 7:07 OK, ulit, Squaddie Mykel Vids.
Why do you hide
+Oddity Archive; first, right after watching, I did a quick looky-loo; the 'ProtectV is STILL being marketed (I'm not print a link as its censorship. Exactly WHO is the 'one'who chooses what is/isn't allowed?) It's the job of a PARENT to TEACH THEM (ESPECIALLY when they're YOUNG and WANT to learn (I'm sure we've all encountered baby-makers who allow their spawn to run amok, yell, etc., and if anyone date say anything, the egg/sperm donor says, 'but they're ONLY (fill in any age where a child's Iold enough to do the above, but - according to them - too STUPID to learn how to behave in public).
I wouldn't sl call these things 'parents', because they're to stupid to realise; they made it, they're RESPONSIBLE for it (there's part of the answer why so many 20-somethings act like they're still children).
In my odd family, growing up my... father (who suffers from manic depression aka 'bi-polar'', but it was never acknowledged. You try to be a kid with a parent who's either one of those extremes - it isn't easy at all) thought I was on the phone too much (I wasn't. Nothing compared to the amount of time kids today spend on-line). He went and purchased a PHONE LOCK. It was a lock which installed into the dial (yes there was touch tone, but he didn't think it necessary).
The very first time I tried to use the phone and saw this thing on it, let's just say thank goodness Ma Bell STILL covered EVERYTHING and quickly replaced it 😁.
Back to this; it's laziness. It's 'let John do it' thinking.
As you pointed out, been, cable TV can be set to block out stuff, but almost no parent does it. If a parent doesn't want their kid to watch something, it's their job - it's NOT for the provider of the show/network, etc to 'censor'. That's just the 'think about the children'' line of thought and it's wrong (for anyone who doesn't know what 'think about...' is, it's a cliché which has evolved into a rhetorical argument. There's a terrific Wikipedia article on it. One of the few in that tash heap I'd recommend - HIGHLY).
Another great show.
BTW; it's spring '20, and the planet's in quarantine, so I've been spending a good deal of time enjoying some of your episodes I've not seen. You've helped make my days better, thanks, Ben!
just wanna remind ben and everybody in the comments going BUT FREE SPEECH THO that you are all watching a youtube series that censors itself. everyone seems to be forgetting that.
OK. Your "nannyboxes" are effective on the audio and text. But is it effective for those that can READ LIPS?
hey,speakonia 1
Vidangel, Vidangel, f'ing be mine.