The throttle settings have made a night and day difference flying and especially landing the F-18. I was always behind the aircraft, throwing the throttle around and trimming like a madman chasing that AOA. Now I'm making ham sandwiches on final. Thank you so much
Have been working on my Main setup for years now which includes the TM Warthog J stick and throttle, Ch Rudder pedals, Cougar MFD's, both track IR or Tobie eye, 2 8" tablets for game glass, 3 34" ultra wide screens, 1 55" led screen, logitech 1000 watt surround, etc etc. Believe it or not it has hardly been used for DCS just due to the extensive configuring that needs to be nailed down. Have been using a simpler set up with one 27" screen, X52 Pro, Opentrack (Neuralnet) for flying and mission making etc. Actually glad I waited when it comes to the main cockpit setup because things have really been ironed out. Can now use the tablets as touch MFD's through gameglass, 3 monitor set up is simple now, not limited to number of devices so Cougar MFD's can be used for additional keybinds, only need one good Tobie eye profile. With these curves, graphic settings, excellent user profiles for both planes and head/eye tracking, ED's improvements (voip, graphics) I now possess all the tools to complete this daunting task. I subscribed..keep up the good work.
I'm so excited....not only do these settings work great on jets, for refuelling, but for WWII aircraft throttles, buy also collective setting for helicopters. The same values without the "Slider" tick box enabled, also work great for rudder peddel settings. The difference it makes to Apache, Hind and especially the SA342 Gazzelle modules. They now all a dream to fly 😊 Thank you for sharing Air Warfare group.❤
It works brilliantly on my TW cobra 5 HOTAS, and revolutionised the flying experience - really appreciate it, and made a new page in my pilot notebook for the settings.
I have been playing around with these setting for years. I am giving these settings a go. So far so good. Hopefully this will be settings that work for me better than my previous. Thanks for sharing these...
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP I don't have the Viper, tested it with the Hornet and the F15c which I struggle with and made huge difference in the throttle management
Never tried the TDC curve, but will. Your throttle curves are exactly what I have used on my WinWing setup for about a year, and I can attest to their ease of use.
If your TDC is working for you fine I wouldn’t change it. But if it’s really super sensitive and hard to control in combat, then try it you can always change them back.
I've been using curves for main xy and TDC for a long time but never thought about using throttle curve. It makes sense, though. Once afterburner is on it doesn't really need much precision there, and the valuable travel range can be saved for the lower portion. Thanks for the video. I'll give it a try 😊
Hey, I just got lucky at the beginning and had a friend that had to figure all this out in Australia and he just happened to be online when I started hooking it up so hopefully more and more people can get this information. Everybody share what works for you to help others 🫡
If it helps, let us know what make and model so other people that have that one might be able to benefit from it. I’ve had good feedback from most people.
Hey Juice, thanks for the tips. Have the same set up basically. Set up the throttles ( TM warthog) with same settings you provided. Tried it out last night. Very good settings. With regards to the TDC, I picked up the set of TM throttles with TDC sensor upgrade already installed ( got the throttles for around $125.00, second hand from a fellow dcs flyer I knew). The TDC settings for the horizontal and vertical work very well with the settings you provided.
These curves work great thank you for sharing! For pitch and roll I have a higher curve because I have an extension on my Warthog stick, not that you mentioned it this video, but I just wanted to share that. Thank you again!
Great tip! Yeah, I tried to put that kind of information in the description but you pointed it out very well and appreciate it. Adding an extension changes a lot of things for everybody involved. 😉
Thank you for this! I'm new to dcs so haven't invested a ton of money in my HOTAS. I got T.16000m for my birthday. I'm usually all over the sky. I was doing pattern work over the weekend and out of 10 flights I crashed on 7 of them. I'm try use these on my HOTAS and see if it helps. Great video and you got my sub!
Glad I could help! Just a question on your traffic pattern, did you defuel the aircraft a little bit down to like 40% or 30% to takeoff and then get in the pattern because that would be your realistic landing weight based on fuel load. When I was in the Air Force, one of the things our jets never did in the traffic patterns try to lay in with a full load of bombs and fuel. We have a few videos that cover traffic pattern in the Viper and the Strike Eagle that you can search on TH-cam with the keyword warfare group pattern. Congratulations on joining the DCS team.
@AIRWARFAREGROUP hey! Thank you for responding. Come to think of it I did not lighten the aircraft at all. Never even occurred to me that might be problem. Flying a almost full load of fuel with two wing tanks. I should've known better I've work fighter aircraft for 30 years now. All I was doing was hitting was instant action F15C hot start and taking off. I hate to admit this but I'm not real sure how to refuel the aircraft. I look that up and give it go later this week. Thank you for the welcome. I look forward to learning more. My goal is to proficient and the buy more modules
i put realistic curves for the viper on my warthog joystick (so its way more sensitive) and i must say i kind of like it even though i think it would feel a lot better in vr
The viper control stick is a whole new animal compared to real life. When it first came out, it did not move it all. The first Piper pilots flying it in testing said they didn’t like that and wanted some tactile feedback so they put a little bit of movement in the state. It’s still pressure sensitive, which is something that you can’t reproduce on most Thrustmaster sticks however, I have heard people using very small tolerances, so they only have to move a little bit from the center. But even then without a stop or guard to keep you from over controlling it, you can still push the stick past the limits. Does anybody know of a viper pressure sensitive force feedback stick? I’m not in the know on that one 😉
Grate tips for the TDC, I already had your throttle setup solid advice there as well. Peps that have the Winwing O2 setup may have to go larger on the TDC adjustment for me I find the WWO2 F15 TDC super sensitive. Any keep up the good work all very informative and useful.
Tdc is better this way, seems to work for the overly and mismatched sensitivity with the SA page vs radar cursor in the Hornet. This is more balanced and useful, thanks!
I put a very slight throttle curve while flying. Since I built my new system, have the TM warthog throttles ( with slew sensor upgrade) and TM joystick.
Hey, thanks for that vote of confidence. We don’t have a public discord because our schedules sometimes don’t overlap and we really don’t have the bandwidth to manage a Public community. I am a member of 4YA in project Lancaster discords. For people looking to fly with other semi realistic aviators, I recommend tactical DCS or VNAO communities.
This is similar to the naming of the F-16C. Some people don't know that the F-16C is called the Viper within it's community, but it's original designation was Fighting Falcon. The F-15E is not the "Eagle" which is designated for the F-15C, and the E-Model is the "Strike Eagle" officially, and the MUDHEN to those who affectionately are flying and maintaining it. It's been called other names as well...but this is a family show.
TM Warthog w/A-10 standard stick...this video is a little dated, but DZ of 3 and saturation of 7 works for me. Results may vary. th-cam.com/users/livepUrUo4ZxU-Q?si=EAp4RQF37bbL_5lC
Juice, you know if there's any way to adjust HSD TDC sensitivity alone, on F16? I've always run lower TDC saturation on my Orion 1 and now STECS for more precision, which works for FCR page, but they don't appear to work on the HSD page. Impossibly hard to put the cursor over a single datalink contact (for some reason it has to be super precise on HSD or it won't let you TMS down, unlike radar) when in the middle of a stressful situation
Wow even on cheap hotas throttles these settings make a difference. Any chance you could sharing simular info for configuring your rudder pedals setup?
I'll give these curves a shot in my Viper, thanks! Quick question: How do I slow down the speed at which the Maverick crosshairs move in the Viper? I can't seem to find that setting, it's been years. I've messed up so many passes because I fiddle with the Mav's too much.
Ooops, did I get my dyslexia coming out again? The values shown in the graphic during the video is what I use. Don't forget the one TDC axis is "INVERT" checked.
Anyone using these curves with the Winwing Orion II, either with the F-15E grips or with the F-16 single grip? Also, do you use any curves for these stick?
Thanks for your passion and interest...here's a recent video on that subject. We agreed early on to stay small, private and manageable to bring the community YT content to help more people than we ever could in a public server setting. By Subscribing, you become a WINGMAN in my book. Don't worry about Notifications turned on...just check back in from time to time. And use the LIKE button where appropriate. Cheers, J. th-cam.com/video/hFO-hk0ag40/w-d-xo.html
I find this throttle curve good for AAR, and other things, with an F16 (with a TM Viper throttle), but.... it has really very little resolution left at the low throttle end (the right side of the curve is very steep),. That means it's twitchy at landing. I don't know about you, after years of IRL and virtual flying... I find throttle work is 75% of landing. That is, if you don't do the throttle adjustments correctly, you will be struggling with your stick -- chasing your speed & pitch constantly (particularly true doing IFR going down the desired glide slope). I find this curve makes it so that fine adjustments to reach the equilibrium of speed-pitch-trim for the desired descending slope difficult. A little bump, and too much or too little gas. Not that it's impossible, just difficult. F16 landing is particularly skill heavy, compared with other modern jets.. you must grease the landing, or else.... unlike an F18... just slam the thing on the deck and it's a good landing.
You know what really is hard to gauge in DCS world is hell, a viper in Mill power without the brakes on level or downhill ground will push itself even in idle. Just like in my Cessna, I find myself always adjusting throttle, realistically in the three aircraft that I fly. Give her some adjustments and let us know how it goes.
My old throttle curve for Warthog works find for both AAR and landing for the TM Viper TQS too (I was using it to practice DME ARC at Guam in an F16). It's 0, 8, 15, 32, 56, 77, 87, 93, 96, 98, 100. It's a curve very opposite of the one you have. It has a very gentle slope on the right hand side (low throttle). The reason I have this curve is that the after burner point has to be fixed... and the AAR and landing must have very gentle slope because our hands just can't do very fine adjustments... we need to have large movements but little values change so we are able to make small "value adjustments." Since the AF point is fixed.. and when in AAR, the throttle position needed to get to 307 kt/hr is at around the mid-rage... thus the the low to mid-rage must have a gentle slope. And as to mid to AF range... who cares. It might as well be on and off, i.e. fight or no fight unless you care much about the speed adjustment precision at that range (no, I don't in a fighter). Ok... the last part is exaggerating, but it's not far from the truth. The old A-10, the analog version, has a throttle that actually had a bank of 10x screw-adjustable micro-switches and cams... so it's a 10-bit micro-switch formed mechanical digital throttle (genius!). There is really not much "resolutions" to go around for fine adjustments. Mine might be a bit too exaggerated on the right hand side's gentle slope... but it works (AAR is still a bit tricky but doable). I might change it to a bit steeper on the right hand side. Give it a try, and see how you like it.
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP No problem 🙂I was genuinely curious as I'm still learning new things about DCS. EDIT: NOW I see you're talking about TDC, it's not a pitch/roll... that makes sense. My bad, I didn't see that coming after the throttle axis.
Hey, always good and thanks for the question and clarification opportunity. None of us here in there with a group is an expert and we rely on you guys to share in the knowledge. Welcome to DCS world!
I really want to get into DCs, but I've been so confused by so many TH-cam videos. I don't even know what type of PC system to get. Of course I would like to start off slow and work my way into multiplayer. But I'm more confused about making sure I get the right system, that can handle the challenge of playing on a multiplayer server. Any help would be appreciated. Hopefully will be in the air flying soon.
For guys that wanna just do historic campaigns and dogfight and just jump in and have fun. I don't recommend DCS. But if you want to learn how to fly a specific aircraft and operate the controls, DCS is great.
Tomcat...checkout SPINO's video...he does a great job describing the System needs. th-cam.com/video/-VMPs9l-6oM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=fPxbW0OBB-eF-ntQ There's so much to consider, bottlenecking your system, GPU needed for 144Hz or VR, and the most FPS is not always the best FPS...check out this video here about that: th-cam.com/video/Lk_x9Y6GxKs/w-d-xo.html
If yours ain't broke, don't fix it...but if you notice it's hard to stay in formation, set a cruise speed, or refuel, try the Throttle Settings. If you have the TDC flying all over or just too sensitive, def set that one up.
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP I can't remember off the top of my head if they are stored in a file but you can export your controls for each plane and input device from the controls settings
What real airplanes have you flown to compare it to, just curious? I get the same thing from my curves in dead zone for my controls to Dee compared to the Airplanes I have flown. So far, the settings have helped hundreds of people over the last two years. Hey whatever works for you is what I would go with for sure.
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP I actually got to "fly" a plane once. A relative of mine owns an extremely lightweight, low power piston 2 seater. He let me steer the yoke for like 5 minutes. Of course, it is a very limited experience, but I personally had the feeling, that the movements of the yoke translated pretty much proportionally to the movements of the control surfaces (yoke pulled back 50% = elevators lifted by 50%, etc.) Curves might help with finer adjustments around the center, but to me it simply feels a bit off. I also don't use any headtracking curves, it is more intuitive to me when everything is linear.
The throttle settings have made a night and day difference flying and especially landing the F-18. I was always behind the aircraft, throwing the throttle around and trimming like a madman chasing that AOA. Now I'm making ham sandwiches on final. Thank you so much
❤️ appreciate your feedback on it as this is our core commitment to try to help as many people in the community as possible.
Have been working on my Main setup for years now which includes the TM Warthog J stick and throttle, Ch Rudder pedals, Cougar MFD's, both track IR or Tobie eye, 2 8" tablets for game glass, 3 34" ultra wide screens, 1 55" led screen, logitech 1000 watt surround, etc etc. Believe it or not it has hardly been used for DCS just due to the extensive configuring that needs to be nailed down. Have been using a simpler set up with one 27" screen, X52 Pro, Opentrack (Neuralnet) for flying and mission making etc. Actually glad I waited when it comes to the main cockpit setup because things have really been ironed out. Can now use the tablets as touch MFD's through gameglass, 3 monitor set up is simple now, not limited to number of devices so Cougar MFD's can be used for additional keybinds, only need one good Tobie eye profile. With these curves, graphic settings, excellent user profiles for both planes and head/eye tracking, ED's improvements (voip, graphics) I now possess all the tools to complete this daunting task. I subscribed..keep up the good work.
I'm so excited....not only do these settings work great on jets, for refuelling, but for WWII aircraft throttles, buy also collective setting for helicopters. The same values without the "Slider" tick box enabled, also work great for rudder peddel settings. The difference it makes to Apache, Hind and especially the SA342 Gazzelle modules. They now all a dream to fly 😊
Thank you for sharing Air Warfare group.❤
this was really useful. thank you.
Glad to hear that! If you have any other successes, post it here so others can benefit from it too. Thanks a bunch!
It works brilliantly on my TW cobra 5 HOTAS, and revolutionised the flying experience - really appreciate it, and made a new page in my pilot notebook for the settings.
I remember you checking in with us the last time...did you find any friends that could use the tips? Any extra successful tips to share?
I have been playing around with these setting for years. I am giving these settings a go. So far so good. Hopefully this will be settings that work for me better than my previous. Thanks for sharing these...
Serving butter all day😍 thanks man 👍
You bet...did it make a difference with your settings? ED recently updated the Viper settings but I haven't tried them yet.
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP I don't have the Viper, tested it with the Hornet and the F15c which I struggle with and made huge difference in the throttle management
Try our TDC Slew settings. th-cam.com/users/liveS8ImCwffzLY?si=hjZX1eoIu88IxX5y
Never tried the TDC curve, but will. Your throttle curves are exactly what I have used on my WinWing setup for about a year, and I can attest to their ease of use.
If your TDC is working for you fine I wouldn’t change it. But if it’s really super sensitive and hard to control in combat, then try it you can always change them back.
It was so sensitive that I switched it to 4 way switch (WinWing can see it as a 4 way or as two axes). This is MUCH better! Thanks!
I've been using curves for main xy and TDC for a long time but never thought about using throttle curve.
It makes sense, though. Once afterburner is on it doesn't really need much precision there, and the valuable travel range can be saved for the lower portion.
Thanks for the video. I'll give it a try 😊
Hey, I just got lucky at the beginning and had a friend that had to figure all this out in Australia and he just happened to be online when I started hooking it up so hopefully more and more people can get this information. Everybody share what works for you to help others 🫡
I am waiting for my winwing hotas to arrive and I thank you a lot for this video, I'm sure it will help my learning experience
If it helps, let us know what make and model so other people that have that one might be able to benefit from it. I’ve had good feedback from most people.
Hey Juice, thanks for the tips. Have the same set up basically. Set up the throttles ( TM warthog) with same settings you provided. Tried it out last night. Very good settings. With regards to the TDC, I picked up the set of TM throttles with TDC sensor upgrade already installed ( got the throttles for around $125.00, second hand from a fellow dcs flyer I knew). The TDC settings for the horizontal and vertical work very well with the settings you provided.
Good stuff!
These curves work great thank you for sharing! For pitch and roll I have a higher curve because I have an extension on my Warthog stick, not that you mentioned it this video, but I just wanted to share that. Thank you again!
Great tip! Yeah, I tried to put that kind of information in the description but you pointed it out very well and appreciate it. Adding an extension changes a lot of things for everybody involved. 😉
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP thanks Juice!
Thank you for this! I'm new to dcs so haven't invested a ton of money in my HOTAS. I got T.16000m for my birthday. I'm usually all over the sky.
I was doing pattern work over the weekend and out of 10 flights I crashed on 7 of them. I'm try use these on my HOTAS and see if it helps. Great video and you got my sub!
Glad I could help! Just a question on your traffic pattern, did you defuel the aircraft a little bit down to like 40% or 30% to takeoff and then get in the pattern because that would be your realistic landing weight based on fuel load. When I was in the Air Force, one of the things our jets never did in the traffic patterns try to lay in with a full load of bombs and fuel. We have a few videos that cover traffic pattern in the Viper and the Strike Eagle that you can search on TH-cam with the keyword warfare group pattern. Congratulations on joining the DCS team.
@AIRWARFAREGROUP hey! Thank you for responding. Come to think of it I did not lighten the aircraft at all. Never even occurred to me that might be problem. Flying a almost full load of fuel with two wing tanks. I should've known better I've work fighter aircraft for 30 years now. All I was doing was hitting was instant action F15C hot start and taking off. I hate to admit this but I'm not real sure how to refuel the aircraft. I look that up and give it go later this week. Thank you for the welcome. I look forward to learning more. My goal is to proficient and the buy more modules
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i put realistic curves for the viper on my warthog joystick (so its way more sensitive) and i must say i kind of like it even though i think it would feel a lot better in vr
The viper control stick is a whole new animal compared to real life. When it first came out, it did not move it all. The first Piper pilots flying it in testing said they didn’t like that and wanted some tactile feedback so they put a little bit of movement in the state. It’s still pressure sensitive, which is something that you can’t reproduce on most Thrustmaster sticks however, I have heard people using very small tolerances, so they only have to move a little bit from the center. But even then without a stop or guard to keep you from over controlling it, you can still push the stick past the limits. Does anybody know of a viper pressure sensitive force feedback stick? I’m not in the know on that one 😉
Grate tips for the TDC, I already had your throttle setup solid advice there as well. Peps that have the Winwing O2 setup may have to go larger on the TDC adjustment for me I find the WWO2 F15 TDC super sensitive. Any keep up the good work all very informative and useful.
Great tip!
Tdc is better this way, seems to work for the overly and mismatched sensitivity with the SA page vs radar cursor in the Hornet. This is more balanced and useful, thanks!
Thank you so much for this 👌
Cheers really appreciate the feedback and absolutely anytime we can help 👍
I put a very slight throttle curve while flying. Since I built my new system, have the TM warthog throttles ( with slew sensor upgrade) and TM joystick.
You da man, Juice!
Did it help?
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP had to pour a Whiskey. Gettin ready to saddle up
Scotch and soda!
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP yummy
Juice know your not on discord at all...would definitely like to fly ( and learn more as well), with your group. Thanks for putting out great videos.
Hey, thanks for that vote of confidence. We don’t have a public discord because our schedules sometimes don’t overlap and we really don’t have the bandwidth to manage a Public community. I am a member of 4YA in project Lancaster discords. For people looking to fly with other semi realistic aviators, I recommend tactical DCS or VNAO communities.
Mudhen Juice? I'm not familiar with that nickname. Great vid!
This is similar to the naming of the F-16C. Some people don't know that the F-16C is called the Viper within it's community, but it's original designation was Fighting Falcon. The F-15E is not the "Eagle" which is designated for the F-15C, and the E-Model is the "Strike Eagle" officially, and the MUDHEN to those who affectionately are flying and maintaining it. It's been called other names as well...but this is a family show.
Good stuff, thanks Juice. Just got my new ultimate build PC today. Good time to adjust these settings when I upload my control profiles.
Got your Dream Machine...I built my Retirement Rig last year and the last DCS PC I will ever have to build. th-cam.com/video/icGYGXoiPFw/w-d-xo.html
Best fix for the Warthog TDC is the mod from Delta Sim....makes it what it should have been out of the box.
I heard great things about it but didn’t need it with the TDC settings a friend recommended.
This is amazing but What your set up stick?
TM Warthog w/A-10 standard stick...this video is a little dated, but DZ of 3 and saturation of 7 works for me. Results may vary. th-cam.com/users/livepUrUo4ZxU-Q?si=EAp4RQF37bbL_5lC
Juice, you know if there's any way to adjust HSD TDC sensitivity alone, on F16? I've always run lower TDC saturation on my Orion 1 and now STECS for more precision, which works for FCR page, but they don't appear to work on the HSD page. Impossibly hard to put the cursor over a single datalink contact (for some reason it has to be super precise on HSD or it won't let you TMS down, unlike radar) when in the middle of a stressful situation
Haven’t tried it yet for HSD as the Viper isn’t ripe yet. 😜
Wow even on cheap hotas throttles these settings make a difference.
Any chance you could sharing simular info for configuring your rudder pedals setup?
Sure, I could show you what I have for my MFG Crosswinds, but it would probably differ from most petals, depending on the travel, but I’ll share it.
@AIRWARFAREGROUP I also got MFG Crosswinds, so that would be helpful.
Hey, I will try to work again soon in the next week or so.
I'll give these curves a shot in my Viper, thanks! Quick question: How do I slow down the speed at which the Maverick crosshairs move in the Viper? I can't seem to find that setting, it's been years. I've messed up so many passes because I fiddle with the Mav's too much.
Is it linked with the TDC or other?
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP Thanks, I'll check my binds again!
And I always recommend if people aren’t having problems not to change anything.
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP thanks!
Aren't the deadzones and curvatures for X and Y axis swapped? The values are 25 and 21.
Ooops, did I get my dyslexia coming out again? The values shown in the graphic during the video is what I use. Don't forget the one TDC axis is "INVERT" checked.
Anyone using these curves with the Winwing Orion II, either with the F-15E grips or with the F-16 single grip?
Also, do you use any curves for these stick?
Yes, Orion II users, anyone, Beuler? If it ain't broke, don't change a thing I say.
Just out of curiosity, is the The Air Warfare Group a squadron you can join to learn?
Thanks for your passion and interest...here's a recent video on that subject. We agreed early on to stay small, private and manageable to bring the community YT content to help more people than we ever could in a public server setting. By Subscribing, you become a WINGMAN in my book. Don't worry about Notifications turned on...just check back in from time to time. And use the LIKE button where appropriate. Cheers, J.
th-cam.com/video/hFO-hk0ag40/w-d-xo.html
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I find this throttle curve good for AAR, and other things, with an F16 (with a TM Viper throttle), but.... it has really very little resolution left at the low throttle end (the right side of the curve is very steep),. That means it's twitchy at landing. I don't know about you, after years of IRL and virtual flying... I find throttle work is 75% of landing. That is, if you don't do the throttle adjustments correctly, you will be struggling with your stick -- chasing your speed & pitch constantly (particularly true doing IFR going down the desired glide slope). I find this curve makes it so that fine adjustments to reach the equilibrium of speed-pitch-trim for the desired descending slope difficult. A little bump, and too much or too little gas. Not that it's impossible, just difficult. F16 landing is particularly skill heavy, compared with other modern jets.. you must grease the landing, or else.... unlike an F18... just slam the thing on the deck and it's a good landing.
You know what really is hard to gauge in DCS world is hell, a viper in Mill power without the brakes on level or downhill ground will push itself even in idle. Just like in my Cessna, I find myself always adjusting throttle, realistically in the three aircraft that I fly. Give her some adjustments and let us know how it goes.
My old throttle curve for Warthog works find for both AAR and landing for the TM Viper TQS too (I was using it to practice DME ARC at Guam in an F16). It's 0, 8, 15, 32, 56, 77, 87, 93, 96, 98, 100. It's a curve very opposite of the one you have. It has a very gentle slope on the right hand side (low throttle). The reason I have this curve is that the after burner point has to be fixed... and the AAR and landing must have very gentle slope because our hands just can't do very fine adjustments... we need to have large movements but little values change so we are able to make small "value adjustments." Since the AF point is fixed.. and when in AAR, the throttle position needed to get to 307 kt/hr is at around the mid-rage... thus the the low to mid-rage must have a gentle slope. And as to mid to AF range... who cares. It might as well be on and off, i.e. fight or no fight unless you care much about the speed adjustment precision at that range (no, I don't in a fighter). Ok... the last part is exaggerating, but it's not far from the truth. The old A-10, the analog version, has a throttle that actually had a bank of 10x screw-adjustable micro-switches and cams... so it's a 10-bit micro-switch formed mechanical digital throttle (genius!). There is really not much "resolutions" to go around for fine adjustments. Mine might be a bit too exaggerated on the right hand side's gentle slope... but it works (AAR is still a bit tricky but doable). I might change it to a bit steeper on the right hand side. Give it a try, and see how you like it.
I'm just curious, why such wide deadzones? And why the lower saturation? Is pitch/roll in DCS oversaturated by default? Thanks.
It works for me. If you’re not have any issues with your controls, just ignore the video. It’s only for people that need it.
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP No problem 🙂I was genuinely curious as I'm still learning new things about DCS.
EDIT: NOW I see you're talking about TDC, it's not a pitch/roll... that makes sense. My bad, I didn't see that coming after the throttle axis.
Hey, always good and thanks for the question and clarification opportunity. None of us here in there with a group is an expert and we rely on you guys to share in the knowledge. Welcome to DCS world!
I really want to get into DCs, but I've been so confused by so many TH-cam videos. I don't even know what type of PC system to get. Of course I would like to start off slow and work my way into multiplayer. But I'm more confused about making sure I get the right system, that can handle the challenge of playing on a multiplayer server. Any help would be appreciated. Hopefully will be in the air flying soon.
For guys that wanna just do historic campaigns and dogfight and just jump in and have fun. I don't recommend DCS. But if you want to learn how to fly a specific aircraft and operate the controls, DCS is great.
Tomcat...checkout SPINO's video...he does a great job describing the System needs.
th-cam.com/video/-VMPs9l-6oM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=fPxbW0OBB-eF-ntQ
There's so much to consider, bottlenecking your system, GPU needed for 144Hz or VR, and the most FPS is not always the best FPS...check out this video here about that:
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@AIRWARFAREGROUP thank you for the information much appreciated much respect. Happy holidays to you and your family.
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Wondering if you think these same settings would help with the F-14 Tomcat?
I don’t know… Do we have any Tomcat flyers out there? They’ve tried this?? I try not to fly too many museum pieces myself. 😜
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP Thanks, I'm a museum piece myself being 59 yrs old, we old timers have to stick together. LOL
You see what I did for my 60th this year?
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP Sorry to say, I haven't yet.
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You never talked about you control stick??
Copy, it's just about throttle settings.
Well sh*t let me try these settings in those 3 aircraft
If yours ain't broke, don't fix it...but if you notice it's hard to stay in formation, set a cruise speed, or refuel, try the Throttle Settings. If you have the TDC flying all over or just too sensitive, def set that one up.
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP heading to the tanker as we speak 🤣
Did you notice any difference ❤️
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP absolutely!! Feels like I have more power with less input.
everyone don't forget to make a backup of your binds before updates come through 😂
Good point...where are they again?
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP I can't remember off the top of my head if they are stored in a file
but you can export your controls for each plane and input device from the controls settings
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just use linear controls
Why?
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP feels more natural to me
and logical
What real airplanes have you flown to compare it to, just curious? I get the same thing from my curves in dead zone for my controls to Dee compared to the Airplanes I have flown. So far, the settings have helped hundreds of people over the last two years. Hey whatever works for you is what I would go with for sure.
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP I actually got to "fly" a plane once. A relative of mine owns an extremely lightweight, low power piston 2 seater. He let me steer the yoke for like 5 minutes. Of course, it is a very limited experience, but I personally had the feeling, that the movements of the yoke translated pretty much proportionally to the movements of the control surfaces (yoke pulled back 50% = elevators lifted by 50%, etc.) Curves might help with finer adjustments around the center, but to me it simply feels a bit off. I also don't use any headtracking curves, it is more intuitive to me when everything is linear.
Hey i'm new and just all the F18 hornet Hardware from Winwing and love to learn from you PS Retired and need to have some fun with DCS