If you can’t believe “religious texts” because people wrote it then you can’t believe any text of any kind because by that standard because “people wrote it” so therefore it must be bias or unreliable.
@Mansoor Ahmad Non-trinitarian, I see! Well in the book of John, the holy spirit is described as "He" which is a reference to God (Something the JW hate to hear, lol). In John 10:30, Jesus said something no man or false God could say; Me and my father are ONE. God can manifest in different ways, but this doesn't mean He created another God. Christians reject that premise on the basis of what the Bible tells them. For better clarity, 1 Corinthians 8:6 says 'Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.' The scripture is making the distinction between the father and the son whilst saying this is the Same God and the same Lord. This is never how different God's are described in polytheistic religions. In polytheistic religions, gods are separate entities, not manifestations or persons of a single god.
hey i have a question as im new to the channel... are all the vids cliff posts old or does he also post new (like 2020+) vids. im asking this cause everyone dresses up like its the early 2000s but i might be wrong
@@simonyousif9123 since you're new I don't mind answering the question there some people who have been on here a lot and still ask the same question a lot over the year, so yes he's all re-upload some of them as much as 15-20 years old or older most of them around 10 years old I'm assuming it's because you're still Corona and people aren't necessarily allowed on camera I mean on-site excuse me I'm not sure but most likely Corona.
I absolutely love listening to this man. he really knows his stuff. I would love to meet him one day. I'm never gonna be around a college campus tho.... this is as close as I'm gonna get.
@Mansoor Ahmad water is still water even if it's in a different state. Just because you freeze it it doesn't become something else, it's still frozen water. Even if you boil it you get water vapors. Water is stil water even tho it's in a different shape or form. God bless you.
@Mansoor Ahmad the trinity is the theological term applied to God to indicate his eternal existence as father son and holy spirt never the less remaining as one indivisible God. The thought of the trinity is confusing because it is in contradictory to the laws of the universe. But a all powerful God is not attached to space time matter, therefore the laws of this world do not apply. If truly we are limited and God is all powerful, the conception of his reality would be contradictory if we can understand his divine Nature
"Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. " - Heb 12:2
I like this one; “Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all - old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!” So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.” (Ezekiel 9:5-7 ) A much better example of what your religion is really about.
This is my fav; “If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
@@ramptonarsecandle in context, the isrealites, which God has delivered from slavery in Moses days, basically did the same thing their predecessors did. Worship false idols and do things that were abominations to the lord. They did things in secret thinking the lord could not see. They irritated and harassed the lord. So the lord smite them that did not ask for forgiveness for the abominations that were occurring. He was tired of it all. The way you put out that verse as a stand alone is dishonest. Like God just one day said " yeah I'm gonna kill these people". He judged them for their transgressions. " And they will know his name is the Lord".
@@chesterparsnip yeah in those times the israelites were turning from God. Sacrificing their children to molek, prostituting in the temple, etc. So he laid down not just this law you said, but also many many others. You could have at least mentioned that. In context.
@Mansoor Ahmad the Bible clearly teaches that there is 1 God in with three persons/forms. The father son and spirit are one in three. You yourself are a trinity you are: a mind,a body,and a soul. Judging by your comment I guessing your Muslim In which case why is it that your prophet thought he was possessed and suicidal(Quran 53:19-20)and flip flopped from supporting the people of the book to and forcing them pay tax or die?
@Mansoor Ahmad “Trinity” “Prove me wrong” Ok!! “All truth passes through five stages. First, it is ridiculed. Secondly it is trolled, Thirdly it is trolled, Fourthly, it is trolled again and violently apposed, Fifthly it is still trolled but accepted as being self-evident” I rest my case!!
May God touch and help all these kids. He alone understands their hearts and minds. This young generation has many stresses and challenges that my older generation didn't have .
"Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God." - Heb 12:2
@@godislove363 “If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB) 2 can play your game gay boy.
I like Cliffe and his knowledge and wisdom. Only someone who is wise would understand him and his reasoning. But somehow he's not able to convince these students. It's heartbreaking for them not to understand such a great teacher.
I hear what you are saying. This line especially resonates, " It's heartbreaking for them not to understand such a great teacher." Imagine being alive in Jesus day, when the world had the greatest teacher it would ever receive, and yet many did not understand or believe. Is it any wonder that there are those today who doubt human teachers when they reject the greatest teacher? No, it is not a wonder. It is, as you said...heartbreaking.
And how about those such as I - that understand Cliffe but recognize his arguments to be fallacious and unsound - are those persons delegated as foolish?
Believers with never ending gratitude to God, love to thank God for being created by God, and for being brought into existence by God. The faithful are very grateful. Let us give thanks unto The Lord.
@@gustavmahler1466 Presumably you wouldn’t say such a thing unless you thought it was true. But sometimes what we think is true isn’t true. For instance a hunter being absolutely convinced that it’s a deer he’s looking at, through his telescopic sights, pulls the trigger and shoots a man. The problem is further compounded, because he wouldn’t listen to his shooting buddy, who told him it was a man not a deer. Why then did he pull the trigger and fire the shot? The answer is this. He didn’t see a man. He saw a deer with antlers. He was momentarily hallucinating. Your friends, Moses, Jesus Christ and all the great prophets who are experts on spiritual matters, are saying, you are hallucinating. God indeed exists. Are you not going to listen to what they have to say? But I say this to you. I say if you do not listen to them, you are going to be destroyed in hell for being useless. If you don’t get yourself right with God you cannot be fashioned by God to become a son of God. You become good for nothing. Fit to be thrown out with the trash.
@@gustavmahler1466 you are tiring very tiring person who never seems to want to listen you just want to rant and scream and have Tantrums you just don't want to listen I explained it to you makes perfect sense if you actually know the Bible and no history not you Google but actual history and you know why this is happening but you have free will to refuse it that's up to you goodbye.
Love how these arguments destroy the intellectual dishonesty that is so common amongst those who've set themselves against God. Roman 1 22 "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves, who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever."
@@diogogouveia3317 So we're _intellectual dishonest_ because we aren't convinced his particular god (of which I have never encountered any evidence suggesting such an existence) exists?
@@theoskeptomai2535 brother its very simple, if you dont want to believe in God thats your decision, i just tell you to live out what you believe consistently, thats all.
@@gustavmahler1466 regardless of what you think that's not my point as I said Theo is just a troll who is being sarcastic because you thought he was serious that's all I was saying goodbye.
@@gustavmahler1466 no can admit something that you would consider false when it's true see if I was to admit to you that I would be lying and I can't lie to you, bye.
@@gustavmahler1466 a butthead every time I have spoken to you I've been honest so shut up stop lying how ironic is that you are lying telling me I'm lying.
The life of the believer is one of not only believing in God and also believing in Him who is God with us, namely Jesus Christ; But also trusting God like there’s no tomorrow. We trust God no matter what. In God we trust. We can trust Him who made us. Our life is one of trusting God. That’s what it’s all about. “Though He slay me, yet will I trust in Him.”Job13:15. Jeremiah 17:7-8 King James Version 7 Blessed is the man that trusteth in the Lord, and whose hope the Lord is. 8 For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.
@@theoskeptomai2535 They are there listening and debating about a very important subject in life... if you don't have a belief in God than you are LOST brother straight up
@@SMNR777 if you end up having a real conversation good I'll be glad, but he's a troll and uses leading questions and other tactics to try to win an argument not because he's right because he wants to force you in a certain direction.
@@godislove363 oh I have real conversations it seems like you are having a hard time understanding them. You can judge how people talk about God, that is your right, but it doesn't mean people can't decide for themselves when presented ideals in Cliff's own way sure he is suggestive but people come to believe not from reason but from their own convictions about the truth and WE ALL will face God one day whether you believe that or not..
@@SMNR777 I'm not sure but I think you misunderstood what I was saying obviously we have our own decisions to make with God go to bed obviously God will text the heart not me but we are able to request and reproof refresh Helen when they're deliberately being wrong or misunderstand something either one, and this person along with several other people on here are career trolls and not really searching I still give him information hoping one day it'll sink in and I still say these things to them hoping another person who is do will learn from it and not lose their faith because of his strolls but I'm not going to like you either they are career Trolls but that's up to you to decide for yourself I can't decide for you some people just like in the Bible Jesus had to walk away from I just called him Jesus actually called them fools in the Bible and he called them some of them understand what I'm saying call Sullivan hypocrite or work so please understand what I was trying to tell you.
I’m sorry if this is rude but the debate with cliffe and the biker In the green shirt made me loose brain cells, how lost do you even have to be in reality to think that😂
Cliffe will do that to you! Of course, most that listen to Cliffe's inane arguments have already lost most of their brain cells. But I agree with you wholeheartedly. 😉
I was under the impression that Theo Skeptomai was just a figment of my imagination, just a bad hallucination from that acid i took many years ago... I refuse to believe otherwise.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 @Grafted Olive Branch Now look the both of you I think he's subjectively does exist it's his mind I don't know but I'm sure somewhere in the world a person out there believes in their imagination that he does somehow form of belief or thought process in their brain I don't know if it's the chemicals I don't know what evolution I don't know if it's because they watch the cartoon the other day with the name Co but somehow magically he now appears on here now whether or not it's a computerized thing or I can just her stoned imagination I don't know one day we'll find out.
Actually to question whether or not there is Heaven is Actually evidence of our designe to fill and answer that question of if there is a Heaven so I agree with the kid and I'm a child of God, but maybe Cliff just didn't think that was what the kid said. At 5:05. Keep up the good work Cliff just throwing out my way of looking at his questioning pointing to an answer from Love which is Heaven. And wanting is also a sign that there is something to fill it.
JESUS is KNOCKING on your HEARTS DOOR. Romans 10:9-10 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
1.Qaloon Qur’an 2.Al-susu(ibn-katheer)Qur’an 3.Khaled Qur’an 4.Idrees Qur’an 5.Warsh Qur’an 6.Hafs Ad-Dury (Abu-Amro alBasri)Quran 7.Al-Laith Qur’an 8.Al-Bazzi Qur’an 9.Al-Azraq Qur’an 10.As-Susi (Abu Ameo albasri) Qur’an 11.Ad-Dury(alkisa’i) Qur’an 12.Ibn shanboosh Qur’an 13.Al-Asbahaani Qur’an 14.Hisham Qur’an 15.Ibn Dhakaan Qur’an 16.Isa BinWardan Qur’an 17.Sulayman Qur’an 18.Ibn Jammaz Qur’an 19.Ahmad bin Farah Qur’an 20.Qunbul Qur’an 21.Showba Qur’an 22.Ruwais Qur’an 23.Shujaa’bin Abi Nasr Al-Balakhi Qur’an 24.Abu Amro Al-Ala Qur’an 25.Hafs Qur’an 1924 Cairo edition 26.Ruh Qur’an 27.Al-Dury(Al Hasan AlBasri) Qur’an 28.Hafs Al-Dury(ibn kathir) Qur’an 29.khalf Qur’an 30.Ishaq Qur’an 31.Al Hasan bin Said Al-Matuu’l Qur’an 32.Abu-Farah Al-Shan- budhi Qur’an 33.Ibn Masud Qur’an 34.Ubai kah Qur’an 35.Ibn Abbas Qur’an 36.Aba Musa Qur’an 37.Hafs Qur’an 1982 edition 38.Sana Qur’an 39. Topkapi Qur’an 40. Birmingham Qur’an 41. Sana’a Qur’an 42. Qeryan Qu’ran (Syro-Ara) 43. Maqamat Qu’ran(Musical) Can easily be shown with the comparison of Hafs to Warsh Quran when looking at the suras and ayat is every king a owner? Is every owner and king? Textual variants and contradictions and errors. Two works of magic aren’t the same two magicians. Thousands of them Standard narrative of the Qur’an has holes in it!
@@jasonnoble7814 that's why it takes someone with an IQ at least room temputer to understand. Let's face it atheist believe we come from dust 🤣😂🥴 that's not exactly someone who u take seriously.
@@jasonnoble7814 your comment just appeared out of thin air...you did not CREATE your comment...that would be stupid to believe ....your comment is just a freak accident .
We don't sin because we doubt God....we sin even as Born Again Christians because as hard as we try, we can't help or manage to supress our flesh at times. To the world Christians see as "good people" but even if we are better in our attitude and behaviour then most, we are still sinners who have been clothed in Christ's RIGHTEOUSNESS. If we have doubts about our Salvation....it most likely means we have not yet been Born Again.
You are correct and because we are sinners and we'll always need price even if we attempt to do everything Christ ask of us which we should we still fall or frail for our frailties me in consulter can stumble so we always need price to lean on. But he does strengthen us he says all things are possible through Christ who strengthens us and he can and he will if we're sincere in the asking and were sincere in the doing.
@@godislove363 “If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
@@gustavmahler1466 that's ur proof 🤨 I'm not convinced so I'm still leaning towards God existing sence ur argument has been bought up multiple times before and debunked. Can't say I didn't give you your opportunity to sway me to your side.
@@gustavmahler1466 again this is not proof and your argument has been debunked before multiple times. This will be the final response you get from me because I've made it known that I don't speak with atheists because I feel most of them are stupid and should be ignored.
Great video and work as ever. Only I do wonder about is when you hold up other religious texts as highly as you do as there seems to be more questions and issues that could be problematic when people research and find problems with it and then think…. Oh the Bible must be the same as Cliffe said that other this text is reliable. However, that aside, love these videos👏
@Mansoor Ahmad ““This is what the Lord says- your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am the Lord, the Maker of all things, who stretches out the heavens, who spreads out the earth by myself,” Isaiah 44:24 NIV Err bible are you reading? I see no mention on what you are talking about. But please continue reading 👍👏
I'm a newish follower of Jesus and my sister in Christ has several times mentioned the word "predestination". She was saying that God has already chosen those that He'll have in Heaven with him. People at my church don't really have an answer for me. Is this something you've talked about before?
At length. I think the reality boils down to predestined by God vs. Fore known by God. They seem the same (but aren't) and I am convinced this is why the controversy exists.
Predeterminism is not something we should believe as Christians. Because then it completely removes the concept of free will, which we all clearly have. If we didn't have free will, evil would not exist. God allows evil to exist because he respects us enough to have free will (I hope that makes sense to you). If we didn't have free will, we might as well be robots. He hasn't chosen who is going to hell and who is going to heaven. We make that choice. Obviously he's the final judge, but throughout our lives and the choices we make on Earth determine the outcome of our afterlife. God's not going to force you to be with him for eternity if you don't want to be, therefore he sends people to hell (where God is not present).
The problem with these students is even if they read those 180 pages they've already decided to reject it, so they wouldn't read or more appropriately, STUDY it to decide how deep and reliable the Gospels are.
Just thought I would mention this when Jesus ,Said forgive them for they knew not what they do, to whom was He speaking. Evidence point clearly to the Romans, because for He past judgment on the leaders and many of the people.
Two points, number one you are not wrong, number to it interesting that you have your, in the wrong place in that sentence when you talk about with Jesus said I mention that because many people misunderstand how back then didn't have Pro chelation and how bibles are printed with the, in the wrong place something Jesus says as he's on the cross. He told the thief "Assuredly I say to you (today), you will be with me in Paradise!"
@@theoskeptomai2535 I would answer that question but you don't really want an answer affluence standing there at the cross witnessing what happened to him who is guilty of it happening to him you don't want those answers not to mention if you weren't lazy you could research the history in The Bible History event taking place. Goodbye.
I like listening to Cliffe if not for anything but NOT how to believe. He said Paul contradicts the Bible BY saying that Paul said that without evidence he would be a fool for believing in Him. Well, what I believe Paul said is that take a look at your reasoning not to follow Christ. This is what faith looks like:Romans 4:3-5 King James Version 3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. 4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. See, it is not about evidence but believing without seeing the evidence. Romans 4:18-21 King James Version 18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be. 19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah's womb: 20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; 21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. We need to live by hope, not evidence, Romans 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? 25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it. So yeah, Thomas, whom witnessed the true Godin Jesus Christ, seen the evidence but what about those who have not seen yet still believe, now they are the blessed ones: 29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
@@45_MAGA_47 So your strategy is suggesting to replace one tactic of brainwashing for another? How does that improve the situation. Wouldn't discovering truth through acquiring evidentiary facts be a far more effective approach?
Hey Cliffe, been watching for a while. Look up flat earth? I'm a believer, and your dynamic is very interesting. I don't expect you to incorporate it into your approach, but really take your time researching. Thanks for the great content 🙏🏽
Flat earth is not real. If the earth was flat we would all be able to see the same stars. But we can't like the Southern Cross. Which can only be seen in the southern hemisphere
@@reubenlyimo Not only that Reuben, all space rockets that take off now have various tv camera's fitted to them .. with a minute or so of take off you can clearly see the shape of the planet, .. it's ridiculous to even think the earth is flat.
@@gustavmahler1466 I struggle to get my head around the free will argument sometimes, it can get quite complicated. I know that people like Sam Harris say we don't have free will, everything is determined by lots of other things going on in our brains. I guess at a very basic level I do have a certain degree of free will, i can choose whether to have a coffee or a tea, .. but i think Sam Harris would argue even that decision is already made up by the neutrons in my brain. Here's a question Scott, .. could you decide to believe in God? Seems to me, in order to do that, you'd need some compelling evidence, and that evidence simply is not there. Perhaps Christian's minds are wired differently and they are much more susceptible to believe things on flimsy evidence.. although they would argue the evidence was strong.
@@gustavmahler1466 Yes indeed Scott. Something I was thinking about the other day.. God slaughtered the Midianites supposedly because they were sacrificing their own children.. which he considered abominable and wrong. Yet, he did exactly the same thing to his own son.. used him as a human sacrifice to himself???.. but much worse than that .. in human sacrifices, not that I know too much about it mind you, don't they do it swiftly and it's like a dagger in the heart... whereas God was ok having his son tortured, whipped, flayed, nailed to a tree etc, ... yet God wiped out an entire nation ( except for the virgin girls who Moses told to "keep alive for yourselves") for sacrificing babies.. so God himself ends up butchering babies as a punishment for the Midianites butchering babies on the alter. And people wonder why we question the Bible?
According to the Judeo/Christian Bible Jesus was a messianic miracle worker whose heavenly father was the barbaric god Yahweh who drowned nearly every living creature on the earth's surface because he had made a mistake and was sorry He had made them. Jesus also believed in demons which he created, cured human suffering which he created, and believed the end of the world was imminent, which was untrue. He believed in vicarious redemption, which is immoral, loving your enemies which is unnatural, and supported slavery ("obey your masters even the cruel ones".) Finally He promised to return in the flesh after his alleged resurrection while claiming that he was always with us at least in spirit. Jesus sounds to me like a conglomerate of qualities one would expect to see from a collection of wise men with superhuman powers.
@@godislove363 Everything I said was true. I read the story of Jesus and I believe he was an ordinary human being who did what he could to change his world. I do not believe he is or was a god with superhuman powers to create a perfect world free of suffering. I believe he was a wandering preacher who was crucified for stirring up the people with his radical preachments. No hate - just my own critical thinking at age 73.
@@JamesRichardWiley Hey James, good to hear from someone who is 10 years my senior, I absolutely concur with your thoughts. Not sure if you subscribe to a guy called Pinecreek, an ex Christian, he has some really good debates and makes really good points. I was watching this one today... it concerns the abortion issue which kind of touches on your point about world suffering. This really hits home:th-cam.com/video/f55F0LDZj3I/w-d-xo.html
Remember that our brain is attracted to the topics that provide the most stimulation. This May be the reason for how there is only one version of non secular biblical explanations- and there are countless Secular versions that all have different explanations for the Bible. Hmm 🤔 quite interesting
I would like to advise any readers of mine, if indeed there are any, that the Confucius quotes I have posted from time to time, are complete fabrications. I just invented them. And also the same applies to Hans Gitmans, , the Dutch theologian. He too is purely a figment of my imagination. Why have I done this you might ask? The answer is this. Because I have gotten so fed up talking to atheists with their never ending bombardment of irritating inane questions, I have invented these two characters as a way to stop the irksome questions. However, if in future I quote Confucius or Gitmans again, I will sign off as follows. Paul Confucius Hunt. Or Hans Hunt Gitmans Which is a pity because I was enjoying the charade.
I must say, I like Cliffe's "Don't take my word for it; read the Bible" approach, because lets face it, doing so is a surefire way to produce an atheist ! Also, if Christianity is flawed, it's down to disagreement caused by the millions of conflicting interpretations of the Bible. You'd think, wouldn't you, that an all powerful creator of the universe would be able to convey THE most important message to his creation with ZERO ambiguity ? But clearly that isn't the case. Sadly, even in the twenty first century we still have people hewing off fellow human being's heads simply because descriptions of their imaginary friends differ. And all the time the great white bearded one sits idly twiddling his almighty thumbs. But hey, wouldn't life be boring if the ultimate, pretend buddy finally halted the bloodshed by making his existence incontrovertible !
I love atheists like you. Because you argue from a state of wisdom and knowledge, yet you haven’t read the Bible yourself. None the less even looked at the evidence and thought it out. WhT you do is read your atheist forums and atheist speakers and since it fits your “worldview” you believe it must be true. You haven’t done anything other than eats the words up of others and gullibly become what you claim Christians are. INDOCTRINATED. You know how I know you haven’t read the Bible? Because me after just a few of your comments I was able to point that you don’t understand how God can understand what love is sicne he’s by himself… the funny thing is you mention the trinity in another post…. Well that’s the answer. 3 persons 1 being. All eternal. But you don’t accept it. There is nothing to help you. You are like pharaoh in Egypt. You have hardened your heart. You’ve foolishly expected that God is bound by the laws of the universe. You just have 0 knowledge of the perspective you are arguing against. Maybe if you want the truth… whether that truth falls on your side or the oppositions side you should study the opposition and learn about it that wya you can confirm your stance and destroy theirs
@@ImCeeJH Next time you want to use this line of argumentation, try substituting the phrase "Big Foot Denier " for atheist. This will give you an idea of how fucking ridiculous you sound with your myriad baseless assumptions. For the record, I simply have found all arguments for any of the gods laughable and pitifully unconvincing for multiple reasons.That's it. No tenets of atheism, no commandments, nothing ! You have your "One true god" and are unconvinced by claims of other gods, whilst I find NONE of the claims remotely convincing. Thankfully my parents allowed me to think for myself as I was growing up and didn't force such appallingly pernicious bullshit down my throat as you seem to have endured.
@@ShellacScrubber was this supposed to be your slam dunk rebuttal? Or is this more word salad from someone who has consistently proven to be uneducated on the topics he speaks on: next in line cause this one is mentally stunted.
@@ImCeeJH Tell me, why do you think your pretend buddy hasn't revealed himself to me yet? Please try this time to provide a response that actually addresses the points I have made and one that doesn't pretend to know me or the extent of my knowledge. If my posts are all too "Word salady" I could dumb them down, just for you, although that might be viewed by some as a little condescending. In the meantime, how about having a word with your pretend buddy and ask him if he could reveal himself to me, then I'll get back to you with a description of how he did it AND I will then subscribe to Cliffe's channel ! Can't say fairer than that eh? As a bonus I present: God The Cosmic Plumber My toilet is broken, it won't flush and so through prayer, I contacted God The Cosmic Plumber. Now, although he didn't respond in actual words, I felt in my heart that he would be at my place, with his bag of tools promptly the next morning at 10:am. Oddly though, he failed to turn up. However, this only served to strengthen my faith in God The Cosmic Plumber as I knew he was reliable and was up there suffering with me over the appalling stench that was emanating from the pan and that he was feeling the intense discomfort I was having to endure, not being able to use the toilet for fear of it overflowing. So I put my hands together for the second time and asked if he could make it tomorrow. Again, no actual words were spoken but I just knew in my heart that God The Cosmic Plumber was reliable and would turn up bright and early the next morning. Now, being that God The Cosmic Plumber works in mysterious ways, his failure to show up the next day only served to deepen my faith even further......his reliability is simply beyond question. This went on for day's and then months and then years without a single appearance and I ended up having to use public toilets. Nevertheless, I know God The Cosmic Plumber is reliable, I know it I know it I know it ..........
@@ShellacScrubber once everything you said is irrelevant and the kind of response I’d expect for a teenager entering high school. If you want God to reveal himself to you then open the Bible and study it with an open heart and mind. Do you want to know why he hasn’t revealed himself to you? Because your heart doesn’t seek him. Your rudimentary understanding of scripture and the theology you argue against prevents you from even making adequate arguments. Let me ask you something does design require a designer? Does something really come from nothing? Does life really come from Non life? If the universe is the everything made up of all space, time, matter, and energy… then the thing that created the universe would need to exist outside of those barometers. So unless you have a better explanation for what is spaceless, timeless, immaterial, and is powerful enough To create a universe, smart enough to make it work and have precise mathematics that allow life to exist in this universe on this small Little Rock spinning around this flaming ball of gas and knows of its own existence, than you really are in no place to mock anyone for their beliefs when you can’t even seem to comprehend that very simple concept. You just accept what the world wants you to accept. You’re the indoctrinated one who believes in natural absurdity. Every single answer an atheist gives is also an answer based on faith, yet they deny the very thing exists.
@Mansoor Ahmad well I just explained how it is 1 God, but 3 ways of revealing Himself. You have put the Almighty God who created the Heavens and the Earth in a box with His hands tied! The same God who makes donkeys talk, who parts the Red Sea and took the sin of the world on His shoulders. God is more than you and I can ever imagine with our stupid minds. Wake up Mansoor, Jesus will be back soon. The book of Revelation is happening in front of our eyes.
The dude in the Linkin Park shirt thinks so claustrophobically. His thinking is if he’s in a tight box. The lack of the ability to stretch the mind to think and understand is disturbing. Cliffe has such wonderful patience for such a surface dweller
His example is screwed Christianity is the evidence of Christ. Even the scriptures themselves point to this. Being Christian is not and organization. It is the Family of GOD 🙏🙏🙏 Because people used the Bible to do wrong. Does not mean you can take away from it to make you feel good about you. You cannot ask a person heavenly things when they don't know earthly things.
BREAKING NEWS::: *I LOVE GENESIS* ..💖💖💖No, not the opening chapter in the Old Testament... the 80's Prog rock band .. I'm off to see them perform for the 1st time in over 20 years here in the UK at the Birmingham Utilita Arena. Phil Collins isn't in the greatest of health apparently and he's got his son Nik on drums. One of my favourite songs of theirs is called "One for the Vine", it always reminds me of Jesus.
Have a wonderful time. I never had the opportunity to see Genesis - though oddly enough I have seen Phil Collins, Mike (Rutherford) + the Mechanics, and Peter Gabriel all in live venues. _One for the Vine_ is an excellent song (Banks best composition IMHO) with a poignant message few 'Mercans appreciate (or even comprehend) - the oblivious false prophet. And a wonderfully subtle Banks/Hackett mellotron/gizmotron 'duet' - a return to the duo's _Fountain of Salmacis_ brilliance - to boot! Have a bloody jolly time! And no hijinks!! Peace.
@@theoskeptomai2535 Ah thanks Theo, just got back, they were all on top form, crowd blown away, Phil was in very high spirits considering his major health issues. His son was amazing on the drums. You are spot on with the One for the Vine tune/lyrics, not everyone spots it.
It depends on what you classify as evidence. You see the creation of the universe to an atheist isn’t credited to any being. However if God does turn out to be real and Christian were correct. Then the creation of the universe would be evidence of his existence. You’re living on the evidence.
@@luiselizarraras1169 I consider evidence to be _any_ presentation that substantiates the truth of a claim. How did you come to determine the universe was created? Describe the data you analyzed and the methodolgies you employed to reach your conclusion.
Oh wow… what an answer, Cliff! But of course you must care if Jesus is the Messiah! He is Jesus the Christ who fulfills the Law and the Prophets! He is God with us! That is the Majesty of God incarnate as the Anointed One! He has appeared in the flesh and shall appear again to Judge us all and to rule and reign in His Kingdom! That’s who Messiah is! and it has nothing to do with being a Hebrew or a Jew by Abraham’s seed but in being of the Tribe of Israel as a true spiritual descendant of Abraham by the Promise! The Messiah is the Anointed One of God and is the King over Heaven and earth! That this very same Messiah is LORD! That’s why you, as a Christian, must care and must believe in who Jesus claimed to be and why He proved it! Only the very Son of God can be that Eternal Priest between mankind and God the Father and mediate on our behalf forever …and this is the Perfect Messiah. Jesus is the Christ! You better believe that!
@@theoskeptomai2535 We seek after truth of God like anything else worth discovering - by the evidence. But the first thing you must ask yourself: is truth knowable? The second is: does truth matter? And the third: is Christ the truth? After this, if the answer to all three is Yes, then Christ must be vindicated. He made a claim and now you must take that claim and decide how that affects your life. Only in Christ is there the answer for our origin, purpose, meaning, value and destiny.
@@gustavmahler1466 I have no reason to take your word for it. Whatever alternative you have staked your life on you will find where it is leading you, or perhaps you already know.
@@gustavmahler1466 Yes there is there are letters from early Christians, much of the Roman empire converted to Christianity in a short time and they testify of Christ. There have been manifestations of Christ throughout history and people wrote about it.
Every religious group in all the different nations have eyewitness claims about Christ. There are many books written in biographies of George Washington, Isaac Newton, and Abraham Lincoln. There are other religious books: The Pearl of Great Price, The Doctrine and Covenants, Church Histories, Israelite histories, Roman histories, personal biographies, books by theologians, and the Book of Mormon that contain eyewitness accounts. More recently the late actor Chadwick Boseman had witness of Christ during his life. You have millions of witnesses of Christ.
Is cliff actually being serious when he said the quran is not wrong and reliable? There is no way any person can read that book and think it is reliable, just look at the actions of their prophet and how he treated people, come on cliff i think you are trying to not offend people and have fans instead of telling it how it is
Its funny This guy said he operates in things that he can" prove" or are fact"Then spent a half an hour talking about some fantasy he made up. That can never be proved.
Im a big fan but we SHOULD be followers of Christianity. Christianity means follower of Christ. The first followers were called Christians in the scriptures. We should not be followers of people who abused and twisted Christianity to do evil things. The issue is not the Bible it’s those who abuse and misuse it. Maybe he meant we should not follow “religion”, I’d agree with that.
@@theoskeptomai2535 you go to Scripture and find out. In the inquisitions Catholics were killing people for not being Catholic. Where did God say to kill your enemies for not believing like you do? He didn’t, he said love your enemies. Therefore they twisted scripture and lied and used the Bible saying it’s supported what they were doing (killing people). If somebody says that God is against gays and so they go out and murder gays, that’s not what the Bible says. The laws in the old testament we don’t go by all of them because some of them were only for the Jews, and some of them were paid for by Jesus. We no longer stone people to death for being gay or an adultery because there is forgiveness in Jesus dying on the cross. So if they say they are killing for God, they are taking scripture and twisting it and ignoring the entire New Testament to justify an evil act. The Bible says love these people and love them enough to tell them the truth that they need Jesus like the rest of us do and that God has a better way for their life. You compare what people say against the scripture in context. That’s how you tell if they are true Christians or not. True Christians hold scripture as ultimate authority and add nothing to it.
@@theoskeptomai2535 I’ve came to that conclusion by studying the mountain of evidence, every day, over the last four years. I can give you places to start your study if you’d like…
@@sandina2cents779 I would like you to provide ONE _evidentiary fact_ right here and now that substantiates your claim that this God exists. I am not interested in your reference material I have studied this matter myself. So in a simple sentence present the 1st evidentiary fact that you would like me to consider. I look forward to your excuse as to why you can't present just one _evidentiary fact._
Maybe with people around you but the majority of people who know the Bible Well actually do focus on David the king even after his infidelity for many great reasons the infidelity itself wasn't great how David and God handle it together was he even said that David was a man after his own heart he loves David and David repented for his sins and beg for forgiveness it just shows that even so-called great men are quite flawed and without Christ they are nothing it's actually a very good thing to learn from.
Dude, alll these individuals who come- up with such questions, we know you know are truly demons using weak Spirit Humans as jokes. They want to know better than the FAITH IN GODCHRIST THAT TRUELY EXSISTS in this world governed by the evil one that blinds these humans with the sarcastic approach to their asking questions. PEACE.,AMÉN
I would definitely need the holy Spirit in me to do what Cliff does. Atheist or some of the biggest hypocrites on the face of the planet you can debunk something they say and all they would do is continue to ask the same question over and over and over and over and over again and act like you're not answering the question. They also love the morals are subjective meanwhile they will go up to Christians or religious people and argue with them and tell them that what they believe and thank is wrong. It's so annoying it's one reason why I don't have conversations with them fools anybody who believes we come from dust are we evolved from monkeys is somebody you don't take seriously as a matter of fact I've gotten to the point where somebody says they're an atheist I just laugh and walk away.
@@blackhaze8233 I understand. Because you don't want your hypocrisy revealed. Little too late for that however. Wouldn't you agree? You will not answer my questions because you understand that you will not be able to provide rationally based answers. Of course you will cower away from question that will expose that you are simply delusional. I understand your cowardice. Would you care to ask me any questions about my position on atheism? Unlike you, I will answer _any_ straightforward questions DIRECTLY.
If you can’t believe “religious texts” because people wrote it then you can’t believe any text of any kind because by that standard because “people wrote it” so therefore it must be bias or unreliable.
"your comment just appeared out of no where....but i will believe it like a blind rat...because they told me"...says the atheist ....
@@cameroneagle4370 TH-cam deleted my LOL how stupid is that.
@@cameroneagle4370 I might just be really stupid but what are you trying to convey?
@@EvanSchreiber28 my comment is what an atheist would say....
@@godislove363 typical ...
So glad I found this man. What a blessing.
Don't you mean "what a joke"?
"Keep it going Cliffe"! "We love you"!! "May God watch over you and keep you safe"! "Doing your job for God, "Will Not go Unnoticed"!🙏's and ❤
cliffe is just making stuff up. it must be nice living in this dream world he's created for you.
Are you helping cliff or s
@Mansoor Ahmad Non-trinitarian, I see! Well in the book of John, the holy spirit is described as "He" which is a reference to God (Something the JW hate to hear, lol). In John 10:30, Jesus said something no man or false God could say; Me and my father are ONE. God can manifest in different ways, but this doesn't mean He created another God. Christians reject that premise on the basis of what the Bible tells them.
For better clarity, 1 Corinthians 8:6 says 'Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.' The scripture is making the distinction between the father and the son whilst saying this is the Same God and the same Lord. This is never how different God's are described in polytheistic religions. In polytheistic religions, gods are separate entities, not manifestations or persons of a single god.
@@HarryNicNicholas what do ya mean?
Noah Pop Beautifully stated brother, God bless you and yours.
I commend Cliffe GREATLY for his patience with some of these people.
I commend all the people who have to put up with Cliffe and his nonsense.
Cliffe is a sanctimonious arrogant prick, he should be kept away from kids like this.
@@chesterparsnip
Ironically, it's *YOU* who appears to be the "arrogant prick".
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416
Haha... That's a very good point, saint paul. A very good point indeed.
@@GraftedOliveBranch yes, I said that too.
As soon as Cliff pops up in my notifications I quickly head over and watch the new episode! Praise GOD for Cliff and his ministry 🙏🏻
hey i have a question as im new to the channel... are all the vids cliff posts old or does he also post new (like 2020+) vids. im asking this cause everyone dresses up like its the early 2000s but i might be wrong
@@simonyousif9123 since you're new I don't mind answering the question there some people who have been on here a lot and still ask the same question a lot over the year, so yes he's all re-upload some of them as much as 15-20 years old or older most of them around 10 years old I'm assuming it's because you're still Corona and people aren't necessarily allowed on camera I mean on-site excuse me I'm not sure but most likely Corona.
@@godislove363 ah ok thanks
@@simonyousif9123 you are more than welcome Simon
@@simonyousif9123 Cliff uploads new content a couple times a month.
Amen to the Glory of Jesus.
I absolutely love listening to this man. he really knows his stuff. I would love to meet him one day. I'm never gonna be around a college campus tho.... this is as close as I'm gonna get.
I want to debate college kids.
Yeah Vee, Cliffe really knows all about his fairy tale
@Mansoor Ahmad Jesus says I am and the father and him are 1.
@Mansoor Ahmad The first commandment is thou shall not have any gods before me. Only one god sir.
@Mansoor Ahmad Jesus was God in the flesh.
God bless this man 🙏
@Mansoor Ahmad water is still water even if it's in a different state. Just because you freeze it it doesn't become something else, it's still frozen water. Even if you boil it you get water vapors. Water is stil water even tho it's in a different shape or form. God bless you.
That story about the Booth brothers is epic! Wow, i never knew that! God bless you Cliff, keep up the good work :)
That story was really good I was blown away as well lol
@Mansoor Ahmad the trinity is the theological term applied to God to indicate his eternal existence as father son and holy spirt never the less remaining as one indivisible God. The thought of the trinity is confusing because it is in contradictory to the laws of the universe. But a all powerful God is not attached to space time matter, therefore the laws of this world do not apply. If truly we are limited and God is all powerful, the conception of his reality would be contradictory if we can understand his divine Nature
Mansoor Ahmad Trinitarians don’t worship three Gods, we worship One. You’re thinking of Modalism.
Amen hallelujah great preaching God bless you to keep teaching these children
Yeah, teach the children about Santa Claus too.
15:18 , Feather lands on Cliffe's head. Just thought I'd point that out. Great content here from Cliffe as usual.
lol
The feather was from a dove, descending like the Holy Spirit. 😅
That sinking feeling true believers feel in their hearts when they witness anyone reject Jesus Christ is God's Holy Spirit groaning with in us.
"Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. " - Heb 12:2
I like this one;
“Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all - old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!” So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.” (Ezekiel 9:5-7 )
A much better example of what your religion is really about.
good job for spamming 👍
This is my fav;
“If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
@@ramptonarsecandle in context, the isrealites, which God has delivered from slavery in Moses days, basically did the same thing their predecessors did. Worship false idols and do things that were abominations to the lord. They did things in secret thinking the lord could not see. They irritated and harassed the lord. So the lord smite them that did not ask for forgiveness for the abominations that were occurring. He was tired of it all. The way you put out that verse as a stand alone is dishonest. Like God just one day said " yeah I'm gonna kill these people". He judged them for their transgressions. " And they will know his name is the Lord".
@@chesterparsnip yeah in those times the israelites were turning from God. Sacrificing their children to molek, prostituting in the temple, etc. So he laid down not just this law you said, but also many many others. You could have at least mentioned that. In context.
This is some good apologetics gospel
Love this brother in Christ!
Man this was a simpler time in life
@Mansoor Ahmad the Bible clearly teaches that there is 1 God in with three persons/forms. The father son and spirit are one in three. You yourself are a trinity you are: a mind,a body,and a soul. Judging by your comment I guessing your Muslim In which case why is it that your prophet thought he was possessed and suicidal(Quran 53:19-20)and flip flopped from supporting the people of the book to and forcing them pay tax or die?
Love you cliff tank you i learned alot from you and watching alot of your vids
@Mansoor Ahmad father…son..holly Spirit
@Mansoor Ahmad
“Trinity” “Prove me wrong”
Ok!!
“All truth passes through five stages. First, it is ridiculed. Secondly it is trolled, Thirdly it is trolled, Fourthly, it is trolled again and violently apposed, Fifthly it is still trolled but accepted as being self-evident”
I rest my case!!
May God touch and help all these kids. He alone understands their hearts and minds. This young generation has many stresses and challenges that my older generation didn't have .
"Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God." - Heb 12:2
Amen.
@@gustavmahler1466 more than you have wisdom or a heart.
@@godislove363 “If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
2 can play your game gay boy.
I like Cliffe and his knowledge and wisdom. Only someone who is wise would understand him and his reasoning. But somehow he's not able to convince these students. It's heartbreaking for them not to understand such a great teacher.
I hear what you are saying. This line especially resonates, " It's heartbreaking for them not to understand such a great teacher." Imagine being alive in Jesus day, when the world had the greatest teacher it would ever receive, and yet many did not understand or believe. Is it any wonder that there are those today who doubt human teachers when they reject the greatest teacher? No, it is not a wonder. It is, as you said...heartbreaking.
And how about those such as I - that understand Cliffe but recognize his arguments to be fallacious and unsound - are those persons delegated as foolish?
Believers with never ending gratitude to God, love to thank God for being created by God, and for being brought into existence by God. The faithful are very grateful. Let us give thanks unto The Lord.
@@gustavmahler1466 Presumably you wouldn’t say such a thing unless you thought it was true.
But sometimes what we think is true isn’t true.
For instance a hunter being absolutely convinced that it’s a deer he’s looking at, through his telescopic sights, pulls the trigger and shoots a man.
The problem is further compounded, because he wouldn’t listen to his shooting buddy, who told him it was a man not a deer.
Why then did he pull the trigger and fire the shot? The answer is this. He didn’t see a man. He saw a deer with antlers. He was momentarily hallucinating.
Your friends, Moses, Jesus Christ and all the great prophets who are experts on spiritual matters, are saying, you are hallucinating.
God indeed exists. Are you not going to listen to what they have to say?
But I say this to you. I say if you do not listen to them, you are going to be destroyed in hell for being useless.
If you don’t get yourself right with God you cannot be fashioned by God to become a son of God.
You become good for nothing. Fit to be thrown out with the trash.
@@gustavmahler1466 and drown everyone except for 8 people on the Ark
Call I already explained it to him twice he's a troublemaker troll or he's just plain troubled.
@@gustavmahler1466 you are tiring very tiring person who never seems to want to listen you just want to rant and scream and have Tantrums you just don't want to listen I explained it to you makes perfect sense if you actually know the Bible and no history not you Google but actual history and you know why this is happening but you have free will to refuse it that's up to you goodbye.
@@godislove363 everyone deserves a chance Jacob or the benefit of the doubt.
Love you Cliffe ❤️. I am learning so much from your videos to help me in witnessing for Christ. God bless you and your family in Jesus’ name.
Preach and Teach it Cliffe!!!
That story at the end about the Lincoln and his son was fire 🔥 🔥🔥🔥
Love how these arguments destroy the intellectual dishonesty that is so common amongst those who've set themselves against God. Roman 1 22 "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves, who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever."
Amen.
Are you referring to atheists?
@@theoskeptomai2535 all who dont believe in God, agnostics, naturalist, evolutionists etc
@@diogogouveia3317 So we're _intellectual dishonest_ because we aren't convinced his particular god (of which I have never encountered any evidence suggesting such an existence) exists?
@@theoskeptomai2535 brother its very simple, if you dont want to believe in God thats your decision, i just tell you to live out what you believe consistently, thats all.
God bless ✝️👑❤️
John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Amen to that.
How did you come to conclude this Jesus actually existed? Describe the methodology you employed to reach your conclusion.
@@gustavmahler1466 regardless of what you think that's not my point as I said Theo is just a troll who is being sarcastic because you thought he was serious that's all I was saying goodbye.
@@gustavmahler1466 no can admit something that you would consider false when it's true see if I was to admit to you that I would be lying and I can't lie to you, bye.
@@gustavmahler1466 a butthead every time I have spoken to you I've been honest so shut up stop lying how ironic is that you are lying telling me I'm lying.
The life of the believer is one of not only believing in God and also believing in Him who is God with us, namely Jesus Christ; But also trusting God like there’s no tomorrow. We trust God no matter what. In God we trust. We can trust Him who made us. Our life is one of trusting God. That’s what it’s all about. “Though He slay me, yet will I trust in Him.”Job13:15.
Jeremiah 17:7-8
King James Version
7 Blessed is the man that trusteth in the Lord, and whose hope the Lord is.
8 For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.
The math guy hit slippery slope with that illusion thinking Lol
This guy is good
Seeing an Ask Cliffe video I've never seen before on a Saturday is like Christmas in September. Thank you guys for all you do ^_^
You really enjoy your mythology. Glad you're happy.
@@theoskeptomai2535
I take it if you were asked to show evidence of mythology in the Bible you could produce it with no problem?
@@aureliotheredeemed7566 You would be correct.
@@theoskeptomai2535
Well?
@@aureliotheredeemed7566 Well, _what?_
19:29 did that Cincinnati red's shirt guy walk away because of what that other guy said? 🤣
I really hope this young man actually read the gospels after this for himself.
Why?
@Mansoor Ahmad explain hypostatic union and define the word triune
Amen 🙏 🙏 🙏
The last gentleman was being a jerk and I love the way Cliff destroyed his worldview.
I'm not sure he was being a jerk. He had some interesting philosophical ideas. I think they were fallacious but nonetheless interesting.
How did Cliffe destroy this person's worldview? Worldview transition. They are not destroyed. Wouldn't you agree?
@@curiousgeorge555 if you find it interesting then try to live it out consistently and you will see how interesting it is 😉
@@diogogouveia3317 I find piranhas interesting. Shall I go swim with them?
@@curiousgeorge555 sure thing 😂
God Bless You Cliff, you do great job reasoning with these lost kids keep up the good work brother 🤗
In what manner are these 'kids' _lost?_
@@theoskeptomai2535 They are there listening and debating about a very important subject in life... if you don't have a belief in God than you are LOST brother straight up
@@SMNR777 if you end up having a real conversation good I'll be glad, but he's a troll and uses leading questions and other tactics to try to win an argument not because he's right because he wants to force you in a certain direction.
@@godislove363 oh I have real conversations it seems like you are having a hard time understanding them. You can judge how people talk about God, that is your right, but it doesn't mean people can't decide for themselves when presented ideals in Cliff's own way sure he is suggestive but people come to believe not from reason but from their own convictions about the truth and WE ALL will face God one day whether you believe that or not..
@@SMNR777 I'm not sure but I think you misunderstood what I was saying obviously we have our own decisions to make with God go to bed obviously God will text the heart not me but we are able to request and reproof refresh Helen when they're deliberately being wrong or misunderstand something either one, and this person along with several other people on here are career trolls and not really searching I still give him information hoping one day it'll sink in and I still say these things to them hoping another person who is do will learn from it and not lose their faith because of his strolls but I'm not going to like you either they are career Trolls but that's up to you to decide for yourself I can't decide for you some people just like in the Bible Jesus had to walk away from I just called him Jesus actually called them fools in the Bible and he called them some of them understand what I'm saying call Sullivan hypocrite or work so please understand what I was trying to tell you.
I’m sorry if this is rude but the debate with cliffe and the biker In the green shirt made me loose brain cells, how lost do you even have to be in reality to think that😂
We were all like that in carnality
Cliffe will do that to you! Of course, most that listen to Cliffe's inane arguments have already lost most of their brain cells. But I agree with you wholeheartedly. 😉
@@adonis6193 Don't scoff at carnality. It brought you into our world.
@@theoskeptomai2535 you have absolutely no clue what you’re even talking about 😂😂
The kid asked a good question about your doubt.
Has anyone ever encountered Theo Skeptomai, I don't know if I have either I don't know if he really exists?
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 I concur.
I was under the impression that Theo Skeptomai was just a figment of my imagination, just a bad hallucination from that acid i took many years ago... I refuse to believe otherwise.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416
Got it... 👍
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416
@Grafted Olive Branch
Now look the both of you I think he's subjectively does exist it's his mind I don't know but I'm sure somewhere in the world a person out there believes in their imagination that he does somehow form of belief or thought process in their brain I don't know if it's the chemicals I don't know what evolution I don't know if it's because they watch the cartoon the other day with the name Co but somehow magically he now appears on here now whether or not it's a computerized thing or I can just her stoned imagination I don't know one day we'll find out.
@@godislove363
LOL
23:14 the pot calling the kettle black 😂
He deals with DUMB SO very well lol
Yes. You could state Cliffe is an expert in dumbness. You don't fall for any of Cliffe's fallacious arguments do you?
You mean himself and you?
Guy in Green shirt is thinking logically . Good job
23:06 bro this guy makes no sense
Guy has his head in the clouds. No grip on reality and has deluded himself into thinking he’s intelligent. Truly sad.
Actually to question whether or not there is Heaven is Actually evidence of our designe to fill and answer that question of if there is a Heaven so I agree with the kid and I'm a child of God, but maybe Cliff just didn't think that was what the kid said. At 5:05. Keep up the good work Cliff just throwing out my way of looking at his questioning pointing to an answer from Love which is Heaven. And wanting is also a sign that there is something to fill it.
JESUS is KNOCKING on your HEARTS DOOR.
Romans 10:9-10
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Amen.
Jeremy, your heart has a door? Hearts pump blood. That is all. No evidence for anything else.
@@gustavmahler1466 Yep
@@mikehawk4714 and naturally you guys are wrong.
@@godislove363 LMFAO. Typical silly response when there is no evidence.
Ahaahahaha that guy with the helmet took some drugs or he trolling 🤣 😭🤣🤣
There's a reason why the kid in the green shirt is wearing a helmet. 🤨
😂😂😂
Totally.
At least he is making more sense. Cliff is a dishonest person . Needs to get some critical thinking skills
@@edluckenbill8363 if u say so. 🙄
@@blackhaze8233 he's always trolling in saying that you can't really pack things up but he says it anyway.
@@godislove363 typical atheist all they do is come to a comet thread and post a sentence from the scripts they memorize... Sad honestly
Theres alot of synchronicity around Lincoln.
But there are 40 different Arabic korans
43*
1.Qaloon Qur’an
2.Al-susu(ibn-katheer)Qur’an
3.Khaled Qur’an
4.Idrees Qur’an
5.Warsh Qur’an
6.Hafs Ad-Dury (Abu-Amro alBasri)Quran
7.Al-Laith Qur’an
8.Al-Bazzi Qur’an
9.Al-Azraq Qur’an
10.As-Susi (Abu Ameo albasri) Qur’an
11.Ad-Dury(alkisa’i) Qur’an
12.Ibn shanboosh Qur’an
13.Al-Asbahaani Qur’an
14.Hisham Qur’an
15.Ibn Dhakaan Qur’an
16.Isa BinWardan Qur’an
17.Sulayman Qur’an
18.Ibn Jammaz Qur’an
19.Ahmad bin Farah Qur’an
20.Qunbul Qur’an
21.Showba Qur’an
22.Ruwais Qur’an
23.Shujaa’bin Abi Nasr Al-Balakhi Qur’an
24.Abu Amro Al-Ala Qur’an
25.Hafs Qur’an 1924 Cairo edition
26.Ruh Qur’an
27.Al-Dury(Al Hasan AlBasri) Qur’an
28.Hafs Al-Dury(ibn kathir) Qur’an
29.khalf Qur’an
30.Ishaq Qur’an
31.Al Hasan bin Said Al-Matuu’l Qur’an
32.Abu-Farah Al-Shan- budhi Qur’an
33.Ibn Masud Qur’an
34.Ubai kah Qur’an
35.Ibn Abbas Qur’an
36.Aba Musa Qur’an
37.Hafs Qur’an 1982 edition
38.Sana Qur’an
39. Topkapi Qur’an
40. Birmingham Qur’an
41. Sana’a Qur’an
42. Qeryan Qu’ran (Syro-Ara)
43. Maqamat Qu’ran(Musical)
Can easily be shown with the comparison of Hafs to Warsh Quran when looking at the suras and ayat is every king a owner? Is every owner and king? Textual variants and contradictions and errors. Two works of magic aren’t the same two magicians. Thousands of them
Standard narrative of the Qur’an has holes in it!
now there are half a million in americA ...THANKS BIDEN... maybe the afgans will fight with us against the woke scum....lets hope.
@@bvici22 thanks bro
@@bvici22 I need to copy and paste this save it on my phone somewhere
Thank you!
I want a shirt that says
Atheist because thinking is hard
Yep, the mental gymnastics it takes to believe in Christianity is exhausting
@@jasonnoble7814 Nope. Nice try.
@@PaulRizzo
Nope ?
How so?
@@jasonnoble7814 that's why it takes someone with an IQ at least room temputer to understand. Let's face it atheist believe we come from dust 🤣😂🥴 that's not exactly someone who u take seriously.
@@jasonnoble7814 your comment just appeared out of thin air...you did not CREATE your comment...that would be stupid to believe ....your comment is just a freak accident .
We don't sin because we doubt God....we sin even as Born Again Christians because as hard as we try, we can't help or manage to supress our flesh at times. To the world Christians see as "good people" but even if we are better in our attitude and behaviour then most, we are still sinners who have been clothed in Christ's RIGHTEOUSNESS. If we have doubts about our Salvation....it most likely means we have not yet been Born Again.
You are correct and because we are sinners and we'll always need price even if we attempt to do everything Christ ask of us which we should we still fall or frail for our frailties me in consulter can stumble so we always need price to lean on. But he does strengthen us he says all things are possible through Christ who strengthens us and he can and he will if we're sincere in the asking and were sincere in the doing.
@@godislove363 “If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
I'm sorry but that kid in the green is delusional.
Yes he is. pretty sure he's wearing that helmet for a reason and it's not to ride the bike. 😁
@@gustavmahler1466 prove it.
@@gustavmahler1466 that's ur proof 🤨 I'm not convinced so I'm still leaning towards God existing sence ur argument has been bought up multiple times before and debunked. Can't say I didn't give you your opportunity to sway me to your side.
@@gustavmahler1466 again this is not proof and your argument has been debunked before multiple times. This will be the final response you get from me because I've made it known that I don't speak with atheists because I feel most of them are stupid and should be ignored.
@@gustavmahler1466 your arguments are very poor and pathetic.
Beautiful
Great video and work as ever. Only I do wonder about is when you hold up other religious texts as highly as you do as there seems to be more questions and issues that could be problematic when people research and find problems with it and then think…. Oh the Bible must be the same as Cliffe said that other this text is reliable. However, that aside, love these videos👏
@Mansoor Ahmad ““This is what the Lord says- your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am the Lord, the Maker of all things, who stretches out the heavens, who spreads out the earth by myself,”
Isaiah 44:24 NIV
Err bible are you reading? I see no mention on what you are talking about. But please continue reading 👍👏
@@rw3452 Quran
nice.
I'm a newish follower of Jesus and my sister in Christ has several times mentioned the word "predestination". She was saying that God has already chosen those that He'll have in Heaven with him. People at my church don't really have an answer for me. Is this something you've talked about before?
At length. I think the reality boils down to predestined by God vs. Fore known by God.
They seem the same (but aren't) and I am convinced this is why the controversy exists.
Predeterminism is not something we should believe as Christians. Because then it completely removes the concept of free will, which we all clearly have. If we didn't have free will, evil would not exist. God allows evil to exist because he respects us enough to have free will (I hope that makes sense to you). If we didn't have free will, we might as well be robots. He hasn't chosen who is going to hell and who is going to heaven. We make that choice. Obviously he's the final judge, but throughout our lives and the choices we make on Earth determine the outcome of our afterlife. God's not going to force you to be with him for eternity if you don't want to be, therefore he sends people to hell (where God is not present).
The problem with these students is even if they read those 180 pages they've already decided to reject it, so they wouldn't read or more appropriately, STUDY it to decide how deep and reliable the Gospels are.
Just thought I would mention this when Jesus ,Said forgive them for they knew not what they do, to whom was He speaking. Evidence point clearly to the Romans, because for He past judgment on the leaders and many of the people.
Two points, number one you are not wrong, number to it interesting that you have your, in the wrong place in that sentence when you talk about with Jesus said I mention that because many people misunderstand how back then didn't have Pro chelation and how bibles are printed with the, in the wrong place something Jesus says as he's on the cross. He told the thief "Assuredly I say to you (today), you will be with me in Paradise!"
How did you come to conclude this Jesus ever existed?
@@godislove363 And who witnessed this Jesus saying this?
@@theoskeptomai2535 I would answer that question but you don't really want an answer affluence standing there at the cross witnessing what happened to him who is guilty of it happening to him you don't want those answers not to mention if you weren't lazy you could research the history in The Bible History event taking place. Goodbye.
….and you had a great answer.
I like listening to Cliffe if not for anything but NOT how to believe.
He said Paul contradicts the Bible BY saying that Paul said that without evidence he would be a fool for believing in Him.
Well, what I believe Paul said is that take a look at your reasoning not to follow Christ.
This is what faith looks like:Romans 4:3-5
King James Version
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
See, it is not about evidence but believing without seeing the evidence.
Romans 4:18-21
King James Version
18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah's womb:
20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
We need to live by hope, not evidence, Romans 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
So yeah, Thomas, whom witnessed the true Godin Jesus Christ, seen the evidence but what about those who have not seen yet still believe, now they are the blessed ones: 29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
This is solid
Bullshit is not very solid.
Yeah liberal campuses and the world we live in easily brain wash kids…keep spreading the word of God
@@45_MAGA_47 So your strategy is suggesting to replace one tactic of brainwashing for another? How does that improve the situation. Wouldn't discovering truth through acquiring evidentiary facts be a far more effective approach?
@@theoskeptomai2535 the thing is they dont care about truth if God is in it, thats sums all up
@@diogogouveia3317 Who is "they" you're referring to?
25:16 .... that story... KO! Knockout! That's what you call getting OWNT! Sorry bruh.
@Mansoor Ahmad sure, thanks for the feedback and advice
I know Jesus loves this guy in the green shirt with the bicycle helmet, but man, I'd be surprised if he ties his own shoes!!!
Makes sense
Those sayings were used centuries before he said it .
Lazy Intellects with smug attitudes. They prefer to argue then read. Good on you Cliffe.
Hey Cliffe, been watching for a while. Look up flat earth? I'm a believer, and your dynamic is very interesting. I don't expect you to incorporate it into your approach, but really take your time researching. Thanks for the great content 🙏🏽
Flat earth is not real. If the earth was flat we would all be able to see the same stars. But we can't like the Southern Cross. Which can only be seen in the southern hemisphere
@@reubenlyimo Not only that Reuben, all space rockets that take off now have various tv camera's fitted to them .. with a minute or so of take off you can clearly see the shape of the planet, .. it's ridiculous to even think the earth is flat.
@@gustavmahler1466 Heh, have they actually used that excuse Scott, lol
@@gustavmahler1466 I struggle to get my head around the free will argument sometimes, it can get quite complicated. I know that people like Sam Harris say we don't have free will, everything is determined by lots of other things going on in our brains. I guess at a very basic level I do have a certain degree of free will, i can choose whether to have a coffee or a tea, .. but i think Sam Harris would argue even that decision is already made up by the neutrons in my brain.
Here's a question Scott, .. could you decide to believe in God? Seems to me, in order to do that, you'd need some compelling evidence, and that evidence simply is not there.
Perhaps Christian's minds are wired differently and they are much more susceptible to believe things on flimsy evidence.. although they would argue the evidence was strong.
@@gustavmahler1466 Yes indeed Scott. Something I was thinking about the other day.. God slaughtered the Midianites supposedly because they were sacrificing their own children.. which he considered abominable and wrong. Yet, he did exactly the same thing to his own son.. used him as a human sacrifice to himself???.. but much worse than that .. in human sacrifices, not that I know too much about it mind you, don't they do it swiftly and it's like a dagger in the heart... whereas God was ok having his son tortured, whipped, flayed, nailed to a tree etc, ... yet God wiped out an entire nation ( except for the virgin girls who Moses told to "keep alive for yourselves") for sacrificing babies.. so God himself ends up butchering babies as a punishment for the Midianites butchering babies on the alter. And people wonder why we question the Bible?
According to the Judeo/Christian Bible Jesus was a messianic miracle worker whose heavenly father was the barbaric god Yahweh
who drowned nearly every living creature on the earth's surface because he had made a mistake and was sorry He had made them.
Jesus also believed in demons which he created, cured human suffering which he created, and believed the end of the world was imminent, which was untrue.
He believed in vicarious redemption, which is immoral, loving your enemies which is unnatural, and supported slavery ("obey your masters even the cruel ones".)
Finally He promised to return in the flesh after his alleged resurrection while claiming that he was always with us at least in spirit.
Jesus sounds to me like a conglomerate of qualities one would expect to see from a collection of wise men with superhuman powers.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, THAT IS THE ONLY ANSWER YOU GET AS YOU DO NOT HOLD A CONVERSATION, YOU SPEW HATRED OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.
@@godislove363 Everything I said was true. I read the story of Jesus and I believe he was an ordinary human being who did what he could to change his world. I do not believe he is or was a god with superhuman powers to create a perfect world free of suffering. I believe he was a wandering preacher who was crucified for stirring up the people with his radical preachments. No hate - just my own critical thinking at age 73.
@@JamesRichardWiley Hey James, good to hear from someone who is 10 years my senior, I absolutely concur with your thoughts. Not sure if you subscribe to a guy called Pinecreek, an ex Christian, he has some really good debates and makes really good points. I was watching this one today... it concerns the abortion issue which kind of touches on your point about world suffering. This really hits home:th-cam.com/video/f55F0LDZj3I/w-d-xo.html
@@JamesRichardWiley Jesus was Historical but also prophetic. The Bible explains the fall, sin, Satan and the Savior.
I think the kid shut down when you called him an idiot.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🌻❣️🌻
This kid in the black Linkin Park shirt just seems to want to argue. I'm surprised Cliffe doesn't seem to realize that.
Remember that our brain is attracted to the topics that provide the most stimulation. This May be the reason for how there is only one version of non secular biblical explanations- and there are countless Secular versions that all have different explanations for the Bible. Hmm 🤔 quite interesting
I would like to advise any readers of mine, if indeed there are any, that the Confucius quotes I have posted from time to time, are complete fabrications. I just invented them.
And also the same applies to Hans Gitmans,
, the Dutch theologian. He too is purely a figment of my imagination.
Why have I done this you might ask? The answer is this.
Because I have gotten so fed up talking to atheists with their never ending bombardment of irritating inane questions, I have invented these two characters as a way to stop the irksome questions.
However, if in future I quote Confucius or Gitmans again, I will sign off as follows.
Paul Confucius Hunt.
Or
Hans Hunt Gitmans
Which is a pity because I was enjoying the charade.
And accordingly I tender my apologies.
I must say, I like Cliffe's "Don't take my word for it; read the Bible" approach, because lets face it, doing so is a surefire way to produce an atheist !
Also, if Christianity is flawed, it's down to disagreement caused by the millions of conflicting interpretations of the Bible.
You'd think, wouldn't you, that an all powerful creator of the universe would be able to convey THE most important message to his creation with ZERO ambiguity ?
But clearly that isn't the case.
Sadly, even in the twenty first century we still have people hewing off fellow human being's heads simply because descriptions of their imaginary friends differ.
And all the time the great white bearded one sits idly twiddling his almighty thumbs.
But hey, wouldn't life be boring if the ultimate, pretend buddy finally halted the bloodshed by making his existence incontrovertible !
I love atheists like you. Because you argue from a state of wisdom and knowledge, yet you haven’t read the Bible yourself. None the less even looked at the evidence and thought it out. WhT you do is read your atheist forums and atheist speakers and since it fits your “worldview” you believe it must be true. You haven’t done anything other than eats the words up of others and gullibly become what you claim Christians are. INDOCTRINATED. You know how I know you haven’t read the Bible? Because me after just a few of your comments I was able to point that you don’t understand how God can understand what love is sicne he’s by himself… the funny thing is you mention the trinity in another post…. Well that’s the answer. 3 persons 1 being. All eternal. But you don’t accept it. There is nothing to help you. You are like pharaoh in Egypt. You have hardened your heart. You’ve foolishly expected that God is bound by the laws of the universe. You just have 0 knowledge of the perspective you are arguing against. Maybe if you want the truth… whether that truth falls on your side or the oppositions side you should study the opposition and learn about it that wya you can confirm your stance and destroy theirs
@@ImCeeJH Next time you want to use this line of argumentation, try substituting the phrase "Big Foot Denier " for atheist.
This will give you an idea of how fucking ridiculous you sound with your myriad baseless assumptions.
For the record, I simply have found all arguments for any of the gods laughable and pitifully unconvincing for multiple reasons.That's it. No tenets of atheism, no commandments, nothing !
You have your "One true god" and are unconvinced by claims of other gods, whilst I find NONE of the claims remotely convincing.
Thankfully my parents allowed me to think for myself as I was growing up and didn't force such appallingly pernicious bullshit down my throat as you seem to have endured.
@@ShellacScrubber was this supposed to be your slam dunk rebuttal? Or is this more word salad from someone who has consistently proven to be uneducated on the topics he speaks on: next in line cause this one is mentally stunted.
@@ImCeeJH Tell me, why do you think your pretend buddy hasn't revealed himself to me yet?
Please try this time to provide a response that actually addresses the points I have made and one that doesn't pretend to know me or the extent of my knowledge.
If my posts are all too "Word salady" I could dumb them down, just for you, although that might be viewed by some as a little condescending.
In the meantime, how about having a word with your pretend buddy and ask him if he could reveal himself to me, then I'll get back to you with a description of how he did it AND I will then subscribe to Cliffe's channel !
Can't say fairer than that eh?
As a bonus I present: God The Cosmic Plumber
My toilet is broken, it won't flush and so through prayer, I contacted God The Cosmic Plumber.
Now, although he didn't respond in actual words, I felt in my heart that he would be at my place, with his bag of tools promptly the next morning at 10:am.
Oddly though, he failed to turn up.
However, this only served to strengthen my faith in God The Cosmic Plumber as I knew he was reliable and was up there suffering with me over the appalling stench that was emanating from the pan and that he was feeling the intense discomfort I was having to endure, not being able to use the toilet for fear of it overflowing.
So I put my hands together for the second time and asked if he could make it tomorrow.
Again, no actual words were spoken but I just knew in my heart that God The Cosmic Plumber was reliable and would turn up bright and early the next morning.
Now, being that God The Cosmic Plumber works in mysterious ways, his failure to show up the next day only served to deepen my faith even further......his reliability is simply beyond question.
This went on for day's and then months and then years without a single appearance and I ended up having to use public toilets.
Nevertheless, I know God The Cosmic Plumber is reliable, I know it I know it I know it ..........
@@ShellacScrubber once everything you said is irrelevant and the kind of response I’d expect for a teenager entering high school. If you want God to reveal himself to you then open the Bible and study it with an open heart and mind. Do you want to know why he hasn’t revealed himself to you? Because your heart doesn’t seek him. Your rudimentary understanding of scripture and the theology you argue against prevents you from even making adequate arguments. Let me ask you something does design require a designer? Does something really come from nothing? Does life really come from
Non life? If the universe is the everything made up of all space, time, matter, and energy… then the thing that created the universe would need to exist outside of those barometers. So unless you have a better explanation for what is spaceless, timeless, immaterial, and is powerful enough
To create a universe, smart enough to make it work and have precise mathematics that allow life to exist in this universe on this small Little Rock spinning around this flaming ball of gas and knows of its own existence, than you really are in no place to mock anyone for their beliefs when you can’t even seem to comprehend that very simple concept. You just accept what the world wants you to accept. You’re the indoctrinated one who believes in natural absurdity. Every single answer an atheist gives is also an answer based on faith, yet they deny the very thing exists.
From which year are these videos
?
Unlike islam...Christianity is told to test all things. 👍
1 Thessalonians 5:21
"but test everything; hold fast what is good."
17:35
Hi Cliffe. I have to disagree in regard to the Q'ran. The earliest copies are WAY different to the current ones.
No one cares Feeney.
@@mikehawk4714 lol cope
@Mansoor Ahmad We worship 1 God who has revealed Himself to us in 3 different ways.
@Mansoor Ahmad well I just explained how it is 1 God, but 3 ways of revealing Himself.
You have put the Almighty God who created the Heavens and the Earth in a box with His hands tied! The same God who makes donkeys talk, who parts the Red Sea and took the sin of the world on His shoulders.
God is more than you and I can ever imagine with our stupid minds. Wake up Mansoor, Jesus will be back soon. The book of Revelation is happening in front of our eyes.
The dude in the Linkin Park shirt thinks so claustrophobically. His thinking is if he’s in a tight box. The lack of the ability to stretch the mind to think and understand is disturbing.
Cliffe has such wonderful patience for such a surface dweller
Alot of lost souls not realizing that you need to read the Bible themselves. That's when you get answers.
Questioning if your going to heaven is like being hungry for food.
How so?
Jonathan needs to eat some logical food.
@Mansoor Ahmad You need to post that one more time. 3 is not enough.
Craziness-wired brain 🤣🍻🍻
His example is screwed Christianity is the evidence of Christ. Even the scriptures themselves point to this. Being Christian is not and organization. It is the Family of GOD 🙏🙏🙏 Because people used the Bible to do wrong. Does not mean you can take away from it to make you feel good about you. You cannot ask a person heavenly things when they don't know earthly things.
It's easier to believe than ask those dumb questions from the first lot.
Can I ask are you Holy Spirit filled? If you are then you can see Yeshua.
BREAKING NEWS::: *I LOVE GENESIS* ..💖💖💖No, not the opening chapter in the Old Testament... the 80's Prog rock band .. I'm off to see them perform for the 1st time in over 20 years here in the UK at the Birmingham Utilita Arena. Phil Collins isn't in the greatest of health apparently and he's got his son Nik on drums. One of my favourite songs of theirs is called "One for the Vine", it always reminds me of Jesus.
Have a wonderful time. I never had the opportunity to see Genesis - though oddly enough I have seen Phil Collins, Mike (Rutherford) + the Mechanics, and Peter Gabriel all in live venues.
_One for the Vine_ is an excellent song (Banks best composition IMHO) with a poignant message few 'Mercans appreciate (or even comprehend) - the oblivious false prophet. And a wonderfully subtle Banks/Hackett mellotron/gizmotron 'duet' - a return to the duo's _Fountain of Salmacis_ brilliance - to boot!
Have a bloody jolly time! And no hijinks!! Peace.
@@theoskeptomai2535 Ah thanks Theo, just got back, they were all on top form, crowd blown away, Phil was in very high spirits considering his major health issues. His son was amazing on the drums. You are spot on with the One for the Vine tune/lyrics, not everyone spots it.
If we all can reflect Christ.
What do you mean by "reflect Christ"?
@@theoskeptomai2535 to mirror the character and actions of Jesus Christ. To become less of oneself and more like Christ.
Has anyone ever encountered actual evidence that suggests the existence of a god? I certainly haven't.
It depends on what you classify as evidence. You see the creation of the universe to an atheist isn’t credited to any being. However if God does turn out to be real and Christian were correct. Then the creation of the universe would be evidence of his existence. You’re living on the evidence.
@@luiselizarraras1169 I consider evidence to be _any_ presentation that substantiates the truth of a claim.
How did you come to determine the universe was created? Describe the data you analyzed and the methodolgies you employed to reach your conclusion.
@@luiselizarraras1169 Well?
Oh wow… what an answer, Cliff! But of course you must care if Jesus is the Messiah! He is Jesus the Christ who fulfills the Law and the Prophets! He is God with us! That is the Majesty of God incarnate as the Anointed One! He has appeared in the flesh and shall appear again to Judge us all and to rule and reign in His Kingdom! That’s who Messiah is! and it has nothing to do with being a Hebrew or a Jew by Abraham’s seed but in being of the Tribe of Israel as a true spiritual descendant of Abraham by the Promise! The Messiah is the Anointed One of God and is the King over Heaven and earth! That this very same Messiah is LORD! That’s why you, as a Christian, must care and must believe in who Jesus claimed to be and why He proved it! Only the very Son of God can be that Eternal Priest between mankind and God the Father and mediate on our behalf forever …and this is the Perfect Messiah. Jesus is the Christ! You better believe that!
Amen to that.
How did you come to conclude that this god you've mentioned exists? Please explain the methodology you employed to reach your conclusion.
@@theoskeptomai2535 We seek after truth of God like anything else worth discovering - by the evidence. But the first thing you must ask yourself: is truth knowable? The second is: does truth matter? And the third: is Christ the truth? After this, if the answer to all three is Yes, then Christ must be vindicated. He made a claim and now you must take that claim and decide how that affects your life. Only in Christ is there the answer for our origin, purpose, meaning, value and destiny.
@@cherokeegypsy2617 Amen.
All these kids come in being against Jesus and they think they are smart enough (impossible) to disprove Christianity.
🎶If your happy and you know it you are wrong🎶 clap clap 🎬
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I think you mean “if you’re happy and you think freewill is a delusion than you’re wrong.”
@@boltrooktwo
No
@@gustavmahler1466 I have no reason to take your word for it. Whatever alternative you have staked your life on you will find where it is leading you, or perhaps you already know.
@@gustavmahler1466 Yes there is there are letters from early Christians, much of the Roman empire converted to Christianity in a short time and they testify of Christ. There have been manifestations of Christ throughout history and people wrote about it.
Every religious group in all the different nations have eyewitness claims about Christ. There are many books written in biographies of George Washington, Isaac Newton, and Abraham Lincoln. There are other religious books: The Pearl of Great Price, The Doctrine and Covenants, Church Histories, Israelite histories, Roman histories, personal biographies, books by theologians, and the Book of Mormon that contain eyewitness accounts. More recently the late actor Chadwick Boseman had witness of Christ during his life. You have millions of witnesses of Christ.
Is cliff actually being serious when he said the quran is not wrong and reliable? There is no way any person can read that book and think it is reliable, just look at the actions of their prophet and how he treated people, come on cliff i think you are trying to not offend people and have fans instead of telling it how it is
Its funny This guy said he operates in things that he can" prove" or are fact"Then spent a half an hour talking about some fantasy he made up. That can never be proved.
180 pages is a lot but u gotta read it my mom made me read it 🤷♂️
Im a big fan but we SHOULD be followers of Christianity. Christianity means follower of Christ. The first followers were called Christians in the scriptures.
We should not be followers of people who abused and twisted Christianity to do evil things. The issue is not the Bible it’s those who abuse and misuse it.
Maybe he meant we should not follow “religion”, I’d agree with that.
And how do you determine which Christians are "twisting Christianity to do evil things"? What methodolgy will you emply to distinquish them?
@@theoskeptomai2535 you go to Scripture and find out. In the inquisitions Catholics were killing people for not being Catholic. Where did God say to kill your enemies for not believing like you do? He didn’t, he said love your enemies. Therefore they twisted scripture and lied and used the Bible saying it’s supported what they were doing (killing people).
If somebody says that God is against gays and so they go out and murder gays, that’s not what the Bible says. The laws in the old testament we don’t go by all of them because some of them were only for the Jews, and some of them were paid for by Jesus. We no longer stone people to death for being gay or an adultery because there is forgiveness in Jesus dying on the cross. So if they say they are killing for God, they are taking scripture and twisting it and ignoring the entire New Testament to justify an evil act. The Bible says love these people and love them enough to tell them the truth that they need Jesus like the rest of us do and that God has a better way for their life.
You compare what people say against the scripture in context. That’s how you tell if they are true Christians or not. True Christians hold scripture as ultimate authority and add nothing to it.
@@sandina2cents779 How did you come to conclude that this god you've mentioned exists?
@@theoskeptomai2535 I’ve came to that conclusion by studying the mountain of evidence, every day, over the last four years. I can give you places to start your study if you’d like…
@@sandina2cents779 I would like you to provide ONE _evidentiary fact_ right here and now that substantiates your claim that this God exists. I am not interested in your reference material I have studied this matter myself.
So in a simple sentence present the 1st evidentiary fact that you would like me to consider.
I look forward to your excuse as to why you can't present just one _evidentiary fact._
people believes in David the shepherd more than the King David after that infidelity
Maybe with people around you but the majority of people who know the Bible Well actually do focus on David the king even after his infidelity for many great reasons the infidelity itself wasn't great how David and God handle it together was he even said that David was a man after his own heart he loves David and David repented for his sins and beg for forgiveness it just shows that even so-called great men are quite flawed and without Christ they are nothing it's actually a very good thing to learn from.
Dude, alll these individuals who come- up with such questions, we know you know are truly demons using weak Spirit Humans as jokes. They want to know better than the FAITH IN GODCHRIST THAT TRUELY EXSISTS in this world governed by the evil one that blinds these humans with the sarcastic approach to their asking questions.
PEACE.,AMÉN
Some of the people Cliff talks with seem to be willing to look and sound ridiculous just so they can disagree with him.
I would definitely need the holy Spirit in me to do what Cliff does. Atheist or some of the biggest hypocrites on the face of the planet you can debunk something they say and all they would do is continue to ask the same question over and over and over and over and over again and act like you're not answering the question. They also love the morals are subjective meanwhile they will go up to Christians or religious people and argue with them and tell them that what they believe and thank is wrong. It's so annoying it's one reason why I don't have conversations with them fools anybody who believes we come from dust are we evolved from monkeys is somebody you don't take seriously as a matter of fact I've gotten to the point where somebody says they're an atheist I just laugh and walk away.
Well, first of all Cliffe will not be answering any of my questions. So will YOU be willing to answer them?
@@theoskeptomai2535 no
@@blackhaze8233 Isn't your comment then hypocritical?
@@theoskeptomai2535 you should learn to read pretty sure I just got finished saying I don't argue with or have conversations with atheist.
@@blackhaze8233 I understand. Because you don't want your hypocrisy revealed. Little too late for that however. Wouldn't you agree?
You will not answer my questions because you understand that you will not be able to provide rationally based answers. Of course you will cower away from question that will expose that you are simply delusional. I understand your cowardice.
Would you care to ask me any questions about my position on atheism? Unlike you, I will answer _any_ straightforward questions DIRECTLY.