I have a 2003 bandit in the shed at the moment, prime position just lets you fill the float bowls without the engine running, the floats still stop the fuel flooding the cylinders
It's common that older floats let some fuel through. Some let dribbles through and others let lots through. In this case his appeared to let some through so that at least 1 cylinder was over fueling. All sorted now though
Definitely will be an interesting video today(the second part)! What a discovery! Surprising that we haven’t noticed it so far… The ride I had yesterday it’s one to remember for sure.
If on prime and overflowed the carbs check the oil as they are prone to fill the cylinders with fuel and then into the oil filling up cases. As I wrote this you checked it
Fuel taps aren’t the issue it’s the breather on the tank that causes that problem petrol in engine ,never had a tap failure on any my bandits had five ,one 400 12 ,three sixes ,love the mk ones ,
Having fuel in the oil is not like having water contamination - it doesn't stay separate and settle to the bottom like water, it mixes with the oil and thins it down. Your best indication is the smell of the oil - it will smell strongly of petrol if it's contaminated.
Bro I have two powder coated ,realy nice examples and a load off spares , both low linage examples ,new brake rebuilds seals etc ,good tyres etc etc ,there a stall ,both off em , load off spares ,let me know there’s a vid on this channel off both off em the black one is satin black and a bit dusty so looks a bit unclean but it wld look as good as it did when I got it done both under 26 k mileage ,I had an acc ,broke my amputated leg and I’m gonna have to go down to a lighter bike , cheers ,
If Gary is reporting a loss of fuel and it isn't in the oil.....Air filter . Check the emulsion tubes in the carb if cleaning Charlie, just in case blocked. Supermarket fuel is not the best if not burning through a whole tank ... seems to attract water.
I think the fuel loss wasn't really happening if I'm being honest. I checked the oil and carbs and all was well. There is an interesting twist in tomorrows video though
@@motorcyclerescuer oh really, its on 28k. I only purchased it 2 weeks ago its been in a garage since 2020, I put clean fuel in and some carb cleaner but hasn't made any difference. It just died on me the other day and after about 40 mins in started again, I didn't know about the fuel tap positioning.
@Bandit_6oo it could be anything I'm afraid. It may need a good proper carb clean as bits of rubbish may be blocking some of the jets. It could definitely be valves as they could be in speck why cold but when warm expand out of speck. It could also be coils as sometimes they work when cold buy stop once warm. So some things for you to check there
@@motorcyclerescuer someone else said the coils aswell, thank you, iv just been watching your channel very interesting, im a new biker and learning alot from you 😀
Yes absolutely but sadly some mechanics still charge way over the top and more importantly may not do a great job. I like the satisfaction of doing my own servicing.
@@motorcyclerescuer I bet if you open the fuel cap ,it’ll fire up frst time ,try it before you go extreme bro then it’s the carbs , float hieght might have been taken out with it ,running on prime , peace out bro ,
It could be a number of things I'm afraid. Stuck choke, air leak somewhere, badly adjusted air/fuel screws, carbs need cleaning. I would start by looking for a air leak. Start the engine and spray something flammable near the carbs, hairspray or deodorant will work. If the revs lift or the engine dies then you have air leaking in from somewhere. Hope this helps a little.
My bandit: 1998. The fuel tap failed. It was over 20 years old, so it was not a shock. It stopped shutting off the fuel when the engine was off. Then the carb float valves stopped sealing, and fuel flowed overnight. I drained 5 litters out, it only holds 3.3L. The engine oil was almost a 50:50 oil:petrol mix. Fix: new genuine Suzuki fuel tap, and a full strip and rebuild of the carbs. These bikes are getting old, mine is 26. The carbs were full of bacteria and rust. Clean the float seats with Q-Tips, and fit new needles.
I just did this exact thing on my 98. Now it starts for about 2 seconds then stalls. Looking into changing the spark plugs and a new air filter because the air filter was covered in backflow petrol as well.
Rajab, leave his knob alone it'll make you go blind and give up smoking it'll make you go bald. Nice to see you are listening to all of us Charlie and keeping your forever bike but you don't have to make excuses saying that you lost the keys. There's no shame in keeping the forever bike. We won't laugh.
I have a 2003 bandit in the shed at the moment, prime position just lets you fill the float bowls without the engine running, the floats still stop the fuel flooding the cylinders
It's common that older floats let some fuel through. Some let dribbles through and others let lots through. In this case his appeared to let some through so that at least 1 cylinder was over fueling.
All sorted now though
Definitely will be an interesting video today(the second part)!
What a discovery!
Surprising that we haven’t noticed it so far…
The ride I had yesterday it’s one to remember for sure.
Sharp eye there Charlie spotting the fuel tap was wrong, well done mate 👏 👍
Yeh I noticed it but then needed to see if it was prime or off.
Big interesting twist tomorrow
If on prime and overflowed the carbs check the oil as they are prone to fill the cylinders with fuel and then into the oil filling up cases. As I wrote this you checked it
And the air box fills up. Mine does it all the time. In theory the float needles should stop it but overtime they give in and fail.
Lol I was just thinking that.
Cheers Chris
Fuel taps aren’t the issue it’s the breather on the tank that causes that problem petrol in engine ,never had a tap failure on any my bandits had five ,one 400 12 ,three sixes ,love the mk ones ,
It wasn't in the end although being in prime had overwhelmed the carbs causing slight bad running.
Got it sorted in 1 day today after a bit of work
Having fuel in the oil is not like having water contamination - it doesn't stay separate and settle to the bottom like water, it mixes with the oil and thins it down. Your best indication is the smell of the oil - it will smell strongly of petrol if it's contaminated.
It was clear of fuel but we are changing it just to be sure Rick.
Interesting one this one mate. It's a pain when the initial diagnosis isn't quite right. Keeps the grey matter working!
We polished it of in 1 day in the end Nat. But we made an interesting find in the next video.
My bandit use to air lock in the tank and carbs would ice up if you did not let it warm up properly
This 2005 has warmers I believe.
But he's had this bike 2 years and you watch what we find later lol
Bro I have two powder coated ,realy nice examples and a load off spares , both low linage examples ,new brake rebuilds seals etc ,good tyres etc etc ,there a stall ,both off em , load off spares ,let me know there’s a vid on this channel off both off em the black one is satin black and a bit dusty so looks a bit unclean but it wld look as good as it did when I got it done both under 26 k mileage ,I had an acc ,broke my amputated leg and I’m gonna have to go down to a lighter bike , cheers ,
If Gary is reporting a loss of fuel and it isn't in the oil.....Air filter .
Check the emulsion tubes in the carb if cleaning Charlie, just in case blocked.
Supermarket fuel is not the best if not burning through a whole tank ... seems to attract water.
I think the fuel loss wasn't really happening if I'm being honest. I checked the oil and carbs and all was well.
There is an interesting twist in tomorrows video though
My b6 rubs great for around 30 mins and then it boggs down, when pulling away and engine e cones under load it tries to stall
Sounds like the valves may need re setting, what's the milage?
@@motorcyclerescuer oh really, its on 28k. I only purchased it 2 weeks ago its been in a garage since 2020, I put clean fuel in and some carb cleaner but hasn't made any difference. It just died on me the other day and after about 40 mins in started again, I didn't know about the fuel tap positioning.
@Bandit_6oo it could be anything I'm afraid.
It may need a good proper carb clean as bits of rubbish may be blocking some of the jets.
It could definitely be valves as they could be in speck why cold but when warm expand out of speck.
It could also be coils as sometimes they work when cold buy stop once warm.
So some things for you to check there
@@motorcyclerescuer someone else said the coils aswell, thank you, iv just been watching your channel very interesting, im a new biker and learning alot from you 😀
That's great. Always best to learn how to diagnose issues as you then know you have done something properly and save a lot of money.
I don't think the ethanol in fuel is doing any of us any favours,looking forward to part 2👍
It's definitely not. Premium is best now days.
Knobs and plugs! What’s this channel turning into!? 😂😂😂
Clown practice lol
Cost of service includes overheads like rates, gas, electic wages etc,.
Yes absolutely but sadly some mechanics still charge way over the top and more importantly may not do a great job. I like the satisfaction of doing my own servicing.
Diesel? Just a guess.
But also prime is not good. Someone messed with the bike ?
✌️🧡🤗
No diesel springy but an interesting find for tomorrow's vid
@@motorcyclerescuer I bet if you open the fuel cap ,it’ll fire up frst time ,try it before you go extreme bro then it’s the carbs , float hieght might have been taken out with it ,running on prime , peace out bro ,
I did the carbs all in 1 hit today hatch. And we found something interesting aswell.
Will be in tomorrows vid dude.
@@motorcyclerescuer look frwrd to it
Definitely it’s a big discovery!
Life changing to be fair …lol
My mk1 bandit revs high when warm any ideas ?
It could be a number of things I'm afraid. Stuck choke, air leak somewhere, badly adjusted air/fuel screws, carbs need cleaning.
I would start by looking for a air leak. Start the engine and spray something flammable near the carbs, hairspray or deodorant will work. If the revs lift or the engine dies then you have air leaking in from somewhere.
Hope this helps a little.
🏍👍
Cheers Stephen
My bandit: 1998. The fuel tap failed. It was over 20 years old, so it was not a shock.
It stopped shutting off the fuel when the engine was off.
Then the carb float valves stopped sealing, and fuel flowed overnight.
I drained 5 litters out, it only holds 3.3L. The engine oil was almost a 50:50 oil:petrol mix.
Fix: new genuine Suzuki fuel tap, and a full strip and rebuild of the carbs. These bikes are getting old, mine is 26. The carbs were full of bacteria and rust.
Clean the float seats with Q-Tips, and fit new needles.
This one was a 2005 model so still getting old but in OK condition overall. I think its finished now after a recent crash though sadly
I just did this exact thing on my 98. Now it starts for about 2 seconds then stalls. Looking into changing the spark plugs and a new air filter because the air filter was covered in backflow petrol as well.
Yes good idea. Change oil, clean or change sparks and check air filter incase it's soaked in fuel.
The bike will be fine once a basic service is done.
Fuel taps make me lose sleep
Lol on their er5s yes. A tap switch above the pump is always a good idea. I believe you already have that Stu?
@@motorcyclerescuer I do ;) belt and braces all the way here!
Rajab, leave his knob alone it'll make you go blind and give up smoking it'll make you go bald. Nice to see you are listening to all of us Charlie and keeping your forever bike but you don't have to make excuses saying that you lost the keys. There's no shame in keeping the forever bike. We won't laugh.
Lol that bloody bike is going to haunt me.
It should look like a different bike tomorrow if I can get the tank on.
It will be with you forever Charlie that's why it's a forever bike. 😂