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Careful with that 78hp! Tbh it's all you need. I've had a bunch of 150bhp bikes and my mk2 600 bandit had more than enough poke for any situation. My ego said I needed stupid power but my ability never matched my ego. Good result! 👍🤗❤️
If you do swell the diaphragms by getting carb cleaner on them and they change shape dont worry!!! Soak them in water over night, they will go right back to original size.
Oh really, is that a thing? I've never been able to save diaphragms once they had stretched. I'll give this a shot next time I come across this issue. Thanks mate
I mistakenly soaked the diaphragms in carb cleaner. They became completely out of shape. I was very disappointed and was going to have to order new ones. I soaked them in water over night and to my surprise....they went right back to their original shape and retained the same rubbery properties. I chemist is going to have to explain to me how that is possible, but it is!@@motorcyclerescuer
Fit an aftermarket jet kit and seals and idle mixture screws 3 turns out and if piston rings are free, watch it fly. Run it on Halford oil as cheap and perfectly adequate (made by coma oil I believe) had mine 21 years from new
@@motorcyclerescuer had my bandit since 2002 new and always a flat spot around 5-6k REPAIR KIT CARB Rebuild 26-1664 made by All Bulls Racing has nicely machined parts and it now flies compared to stock kit. Can't recommend it enough has same part numbers, but the jets look bigger. Fowlers at time I bought bike wanted to sell jet kit-I wonder if stock oem was for emissions new and now corrected.
That's interesting, I've never seen/felt a flat spot on any bandits that I can remember. They are normally super smooth throughout the rev range. But yes as you say, stock jetting included slight restriction for emissions reasons. Either too rich or too lean.
pretty sure my bandit is restricted to .. had it moted or whatever its called in the UK .. and it says "constructive changes" .. wich could be restriction and thats nothing special about the bikes looks .. but it does feel a bit "slow" getting up there
The mot wouldn't be able to pick up on any mechanical issues or restrictions. Constructive changes I'm guessing is something structural that's changed. New swing arm, new shocks, or new seat etc
I checked and they were original jets. I was curious about that aswell. I'm actually surprised this kinda system works, just blocking air/fuel flow. I feel like it should back itself up or something. Cheers mate
I'm surprised how good it ran and sounded. I've had plenty bandits aswell. This is a 2005 though so possibly the best one before lower emissions took over
It's great that you got Gary mobile again, and I bet he's over the moon with the extra horses. Never would have thought it had restrictions on it but not paid much attention, to be honest. Nice one Charlie 👍
Fuel never touches them Terence, but when cleaning some people spray up into their area and carb cleaners aren't very good for rubber. So I tend not to mess with them unless I really feel that they may need changing
I’m, fair anchoring over a nice bandit, year not so important but I would gladly swap my Honda NT700VA 2007 with 25,000 true miles on it for the right one. Preferably a 1200 Mines as always with my bikes immaculate, truly as new with no signs of winter damage. At 63 even though I should know better I’m having strong urges, lol, keep your eyes out for one if you could Charlie, I only took mine for it’s Mot plus one 90 mile ride last year, I dare not say anything to my wife at the moment cos I actually said this would be my last bike ever!
The 1200 bandits are starting to get more rare. I had one some years back and didn't feel the power to weight was much better then the 600 really. If the 1200 is slightly tuned it can be incredible.
Also tell him not to use choke now and the bike will never need it , my both bandits never need choke even in winter I’d just hit the button let em sit for couple off min and off I’d go even in winter I’d put ten mil off iso,in fuel tank stopped the carbs icing up ,there realy good tough bikes ,
Mate, the sound of that bike is fucking ridicoulus ! Thats the fucking best sound I've heard in my life. Please let me know which exhaust this is. I will buy it straight away... nice work guys. Best regards from Germany
Hi Niklas, it's a blue flame exhaust. It has 2 holes coming out of it which makes that sound. www.google.com/search?q=blueflame+exhaust&client=ms-unknown&prmd=sivn&sxsrf=APwXEdc-utI3BU7EjILxdwwh4JZNJMDl4w:1680936817446&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjk7JLP2Zn-AhWNNcAKHUJnCQ4Q_AUoAnoECAIQAg&biw=412&bih=652&dpr=2.63#imgrc=ONHyrtHeMN0qfM&lnspr=W10=
They were round discs that sit in the intake part of each carb and slow down the airflow and restrict the bike to 33bhp. It's to do with the old UK licence rules.
@@motorcyclerescuer Oh you poor guys.. not that big of a deal to remove i guess, thankfully here in Canada we dont have quite as much over-reach by big brother.
The sound of glory. Great work mate. Enjoyed it. I am thinking of getting a Bandit. I am not sure of getting a 2001-2004 or 2005 to 2006. The latest was the last one with carbs. What do you think? Got my like here.
Honestly I like a bandit from mk 1 upwards but something about the more basic nature of the earlier ones appeals to me. Saying that this one, Gary's one is so smooth. So honestly I think you can't go wrong with whatever you get. I highly recommend a blue flame twin exit end pipe on these. One if the best sounds out there. Thanks for watching.
Great question, I prefer the 600 for its revs, but the 650 does feel a touch better on torque. Gary's 2005/2006 model is the best of all worlds I believe. Old bandit looks with a great carbed engine. I suggest you try both before buying. You won't feel much difference between them so it will probably come down to looks though.
@@motorcyclerescuer By the way how tall are you? The 2001-2004 model has a slightly higher seat. :) You tried both that is why I am asking. Thanks mate.
I'm 5.9. I've never found any bike to tall and the rear can be changed easily enough with new dog bones. Or seat can be shaved So I wouldn't worry to much.
I'm unsure what the washers were restricting the bike to if I'm being honest. Possibly the new a2 47bhp as you say. In the past I believe bikes were restricted to less if you passed your test on a bike smaller then 500cc. So it could be a 47bhp or 35bhp
Hi Stephen, was it high tickover before cleaning? It could be a few issues mate. Idle screw adjustment. Balance issues Diaphragm issues especially after cleaning carbs. If any of the cleaner got onto the Diaphragms then they could have got out of shape. Air leak would also cause idle issues. So a suction tube not put back on or a carb boot not fully seated. You will have to look into all of these to try and find your issue mate
@@motorcyclerescuer Unfortunately im based in Birmingham having some issues with my bandit 600 that purchased few weeks ago, the bike had pods fitted but carbs hasn’t been rejected to suit them, basically replaced with stock air box and new hi flow filter, but now probably need to adjust the carbs
You will need to check the airbox to make sure no oil is in it and its worth cleaning the spark plugs for the same reason. When you say no power, do the dash lights come on and it try to start?
It still worked for about an hour just fine after the drop but after that it stalled and wouldn’t start. Got it home and now when I turn the key the Neutral and oil lights come on but lose brightness as the bike sits, same for the headlight. The horn makes a small kinda chirp sound as if it honks for a split second. The turn signals won’t come on and when I try to start the bike it makes a click sound then loses power gradually for every try after that.
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Mate , she sounds absolutely awesome, great job solving the mystery, it pays when you have mates that know what the are doing.
Yes exactly, and that is what this channel is all about. We like to help each other and share our wisdom without taking money from people.
Thanks for watching Juan and please subscribe if you havnt already.
This makes me miss my old Bandit so much!!!
Yeh bandits are good old bikes mate. Especially with a blue flame exhaust
Careful with that 78hp!
Tbh it's all you need. I've had a bunch of 150bhp bikes and my mk2 600 bandit had more than enough poke for any situation. My ego said I needed stupid power but my ability never matched my ego.
Good result! 👍🤗❤️
He's still fairly new to big bikes but you have to start somewhere I guess. That restriction kit was probably good for him really.
If you do swell the diaphragms by getting carb cleaner on them and they change shape dont worry!!! Soak them in water over night, they will go right back to original size.
Oh really, is that a thing?
I've never been able to save diaphragms once they had stretched.
I'll give this a shot next time I come across this issue.
Thanks mate
I mistakenly soaked the diaphragms in carb cleaner. They became completely out of shape. I was very disappointed and was going to have to order new ones. I soaked them in water over night and to my surprise....they went right back to their original shape and retained the same rubbery properties. I chemist is going to have to explain to me how that is possible, but it is!@@motorcyclerescuer
I'll give it a try one day out of curiosity. Lots of things amaze me with engineering. I learn new stuff all the time.
Thanks
OMG , that exhaut sound made me smile big time - amazing work guys
That's a blue flame exhaust, best sounding exhaust on a inline 4 I think.
Fit an aftermarket jet kit and seals and idle mixture screws 3 turns out and if piston rings are free, watch it fly.
Run it on Halford oil as cheap and perfectly adequate (made by coma oil I believe) had mine 21 years from new
We could up jet it a touch I guess. What size would you suggest?
@@motorcyclerescuer had my bandit since 2002 new and always a flat spot around 5-6k
REPAIR KIT CARB Rebuild 26-1664 made by All Bulls Racing has nicely machined parts and it now flies compared to stock kit. Can't recommend it enough has same part numbers, but the jets look bigger. Fowlers at time I bought bike wanted to sell jet kit-I wonder if stock oem was for emissions new and now corrected.
That's interesting, I've never seen/felt a flat spot on any bandits that I can remember. They are normally super smooth throughout the rev range. But yes as you say, stock jetting included slight restriction for emissions reasons. Either too rich or too lean.
pretty sure my bandit is restricted to .. had it moted or whatever its called in the UK .. and it says "constructive changes" .. wich could be restriction and thats nothing special about the bikes looks .. but it does feel a bit "slow" getting up there
The mot wouldn't be able to pick up on any mechanical issues or restrictions. Constructive changes I'm guessing is something structural that's changed. New swing arm, new shocks, or new seat etc
Excellent work guys. Can't beat the sound of a happy bandit!
The blue flame exhaust is my favorite. Such a great sound and not to loud
@@motorcyclerescuer i cut mine in half and removed the wadding. 🤓👌 Epic sound.
I've done that before with pipes.
Trippy find ,you do know the float bowls need to be measured at a 45 degree angle , he will feel that 6 k rev range now ,lol ,
I don't ever properly measure the floats. I do it eye and feel
Good old back street bike work with mates :-)
Always better with mates.
Thanks for watching.
Are the main jets part of the restriction kit and need replacing? Might be worth checking standard size and go up one for the exhaust.
I checked and they were original jets. I was curious about that aswell.
I'm actually surprised this kinda system works, just blocking air/fuel flow. I feel like it should back itself up or something.
Cheers mate
When he winds the throttle back he's going to smile ear to ear.
I'm surprised how good it ran and sounded. I've had plenty bandits aswell. This is a 2005 though so possibly the best one before lower emissions took over
@@motorcyclerescuer I bet he got home a lot quicker lol
And in 1 piece somehow lol
It's great that you got Gary mobile again, and I bet he's over the moon with the extra horses.
Never would have thought it had restrictions on it but not paid much attention, to be honest.
Nice one Charlie 👍
I've ridden it mayby 3 times and not once thought it wasn't right. I've had plenty bandits aswell.
That's a nice result finding those Carb restrictors. You mentioned the Diaphragms expanding, I found that the new fuel makes them expand?
Fuel never touches them Terence, but when cleaning some people spray up into their area and carb cleaners aren't very good for rubber.
So I tend not to mess with them unless I really feel that they may need changing
Runs better than my bandit
It runs very well yes.
Cheers
I think my bandit 600 was restricted too my mate had a go on mine and said it was gutless i loved the sound but was just too heavy and tall for me 😊
It could have been. I'd have never noticed without actually taking the carbs off.
from 34hp to 80hp he's in for a treat lol
It was a big difference. He's on a gsr 750 now which is also a big difference.
Cheers Danny
I bet Gary notices a difference now,sounds great by the way 👍
He did on the way home. At least it's running again. He was using public transport for 2 weeks
I’m, fair anchoring over a nice bandit, year not so important but I would gladly swap my Honda NT700VA 2007 with 25,000 true miles on it for the right one. Preferably a 1200 Mines as always with my bikes immaculate, truly as new with no signs of winter damage. At 63 even though I should know better I’m having strong urges, lol, keep your eyes out for one if you could Charlie, I only took mine for it’s Mot plus one 90 mile ride last year, I dare not say anything to my wife at the moment cos I actually said this would be my last bike ever!
The 1200 bandits are starting to get more rare. I had one some years back and didn't feel the power to weight was much better then the 600 really.
If the 1200 is slightly tuned it can be incredible.
Also tell him not to use choke now and the bike will never need it , my both bandits never need choke even in winter I’d just hit the button let em sit for couple off min and off I’d go even in winter I’d put ten mil off iso,in fuel tank stopped the carbs icing up ,there realy good tough bikes ,
Cheers Cross, that's great advice mate
Mate, the sound of that bike is fucking ridicoulus ! Thats the fucking best sound I've heard in my life. Please let me know which exhaust this is. I will buy it straight away... nice work guys. Best regards from Germany
Hi Niklas, it's a blue flame exhaust. It has 2 holes coming out of it which makes that sound.
www.google.com/search?q=blueflame+exhaust&client=ms-unknown&prmd=sivn&sxsrf=APwXEdc-utI3BU7EjILxdwwh4JZNJMDl4w:1680936817446&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjk7JLP2Zn-AhWNNcAKHUJnCQ4Q_AUoAnoECAIQAg&biw=412&bih=652&dpr=2.63#imgrc=ONHyrtHeMN0qfM&lnspr=W10=
I've owned and been around bikes my whole life, never heard of these restrictors before! How did they get there? what purpose does it serve?
They were round discs that sit in the intake part of each carb and slow down the airflow and restrict the bike to 33bhp. It's to do with the old UK licence rules.
@@motorcyclerescuer Oh you poor guys.. not that big of a deal to remove i guess, thankfully here in Canada we dont have quite as much over-reach by big brother.
The sound of glory. Great work mate. Enjoyed it. I am thinking of getting a Bandit. I am not sure of getting a 2001-2004 or 2005 to 2006. The latest was the last one with carbs. What do you think? Got my like here.
Honestly I like a bandit from mk 1 upwards but something about the more basic nature of the earlier ones appeals to me.
Saying that this one, Gary's one is so smooth. So honestly I think you can't go wrong with whatever you get.
I highly recommend a blue flame twin exit end pipe on these. One if the best sounds out there.
Thanks for watching.
@@motorcyclerescuer Thanks for your tip mate. It is there a big torque feel difference between the 600cc and 650cc model?
Great question, I prefer the 600 for its revs, but the 650 does feel a touch better on torque. Gary's 2005/2006 model is the best of all worlds I believe. Old bandit looks with a great carbed engine.
I suggest you try both before buying. You won't feel much difference between them so it will probably come down to looks though.
@@motorcyclerescuer By the way how tall are you? The 2001-2004 model has a slightly higher seat. :) You tried both that is why I am asking. Thanks mate.
I'm 5.9. I've never found any bike to tall and the rear can be changed easily enough with new dog bones.
Or seat can be shaved
So I wouldn't worry to much.
The bike was loud anyways, now it will terrorise people! 😂
It's a great sound G
That was a fast 0-30 Charlie 😉
0 to 19 Lee lol
I'm surprised those restrictors don't deteriorate over time 😆 sounds spicy now!
That's a good point. These are spot on still.
I'll save them for when Rabjab passes lol
@@motorcyclerescuer 😂😂😂😂 nah we'll make new ones with 5mm holes in for him and one for the exhaust as well! 😂😂😂
Lol, and some training wheels
@@motorcyclerescuer 😂😂🦼
Bro flabbergasted at 80HP :'D
From 33 to 80
How much extra power .by the way its 35 kw or 47 bhp ,.
I'm unsure what the washers were restricting the bike to if I'm being honest. Possibly the new a2 47bhp as you say. In the past I believe bikes were restricted to less if you passed your test on a bike smaller then 500cc.
So it could be a 47bhp or 35bhp
I cleaned carbs now the engine is racing on tick over?
Hi Stephen, was it high tickover before cleaning?
It could be a few issues mate. Idle screw adjustment.
Balance issues
Diaphragm issues especially after cleaning carbs. If any of the cleaner got onto the Diaphragms then they could have got out of shape.
Air leak would also cause idle issues. So a suction tube not put back on or a carb boot not fully seated.
You will have to look into all of these to try and find your issue mate
Christ, Garry is going to kill himself now with all that extra power.
He will need to control himself lol
Shame the only thing Gary's bike shares with your forever bike is the colour and not the power.
Not anymore lol. You will see
Where are you based please mate?
London
@@motorcyclerescuer
Unfortunately im based in Birmingham having some issues with my bandit 600 that purchased few weeks ago, the bike had pods fitted but carbs hasn’t been rejected to suit them, basically replaced with stock air box and new hi flow filter, but now probably need to adjust the carbs
Yes they may need a good clean and balance. Also check/change the spark plugs as they may have run to hot and broke.
@@motorcyclerescuer
Thanks buddy
Good luck with it. Let me know how it goes.
Hey my bandit dropped on its right side and won’t get any power/won’t start. Any ideas anyone?
You will need to check the airbox to make sure no oil is in it and its worth cleaning the spark plugs for the same reason.
When you say no power, do the dash lights come on and it try to start?
It still worked for about an hour just fine after the drop but after that it stalled and wouldn’t start. Got it home and now when I turn the key the Neutral and oil lights come on but lose brightness as the bike sits, same for the headlight. The horn makes a small kinda chirp sound as if it honks for a split second. The turn signals won’t come on and when I try to start the bike it makes a click sound then loses power gradually for every try after that.
@@yurei2114 sounds like the battery is dead?