@Richard Favreau CX-30 is smaller. The back seats are cramped and can't be properly folded down. The AWD works only at a low speed. The ride is not as good as with the Crosstrek.
I blame the market of tiny small ass engine with turbos like 1.5l and highly tuned torque transmissions like dcts for the pep feeling rather than power. Most people want pep torque feeling vs how much power their car actually puts out.
@@441meatloaf i second this the business i worked for has a transit connect with a turbo engine and some conventional minivans with a big ass v6. people would always want to sign out the turbocharged ford because it's "fAsTeR" even tho the v6 vans ran 0-60 like 2 if not 3 seconds faster. who knew that when something shakes around and rumbles more, and makes cooler noises people think it's faster.
I love your reviews. I'm surprised that none of the car reviewers mention that Subaru is about the only car manufacturer that still includes a CD player. For us older folks with a lot of CD's that is still a good feature and it'll influence my choice of which vehicle to buy next.
Hey Sofyan, I had been considering the Crosstrek for a couple months. After watching this review I took the leap! I’m now the proud owner of a 2021 Crosstrek Limited and I LOVE LOVE LOVE it.. Thanks for another amazing review! 👏🏽👏🏽
Fast forward.. Discovered my 2021 Crosstrek has defective paint! Clearcoat burned in the sun from a tiny spot of bird poop now paint has bubbled.. A problem quite common and one that Subaru knows about, but refused to correct! SOO, I had no choice but to trade her! Back to Toyota..
@@JaxWatchesandEDC No explaination other than the corporate “Subaru has no open recall for this issue at the present time!” BS! I’ll never own another Subaru product..
I went on car complaints and saw there were also multiple issues between 2020-2021 with cracked windshields. One reports said the moonroof glass exploded too 😶
I have the exact same car - added the STI rear spoiler - also no moonroof as I'm 6'5" - I absolutely love this CrossTrek. Power is fine and...I traded in my 2018 BMW M2 for it! Best car decision I ever made.
No moonroof on a Limited? Not really a "Limited" then. Not sure why Subaru doesn't make these things standard in NA. Personally I'm not a fan of moonroofs/sunroofs. Just another potential source of eventual leaks, too much light in my eyes and hot sun on my head. I have one on one of my cars and it stays closed 99% of the time. I crack it up for ventilation once in a while.
I have a 2019 manual premium. Honestly if the 2.5 engine was sold w a manual in premium or sport I would seriously consider a trade up. The manual truly allows the choice of gearing for excellent spirited driving. 1rst gear is a very low granny gear and a quick shift to second allows redline to come quickly it is also relatively a lower ratio. 3rd stretches your legs, 4th is shorter as is 5th, 6th is long. The gearing work real well w the 2.0 once you learn it’s temperament. Coming from a 2006 Audi A3 manual, the Crosstrek shares the BRZ steering ratio pinion gear gives the manual Crosstrek a huge fun value. If only the 2.5 was available w a stick.
I live in a rural mtn town and these things are EVERYWHERE!!!👁️👁️. I think they are a good fit for this terrain. Rugged just enough but good on gas and easy to park in town...I like the funky blues and oranges that Subaru has come out with... Sofyan must have caught a chill....out of the shorts and tees and into the jeans and jersey...
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH The Outback lift gate is SLOOOOOOOW, by design. Lawyers don't want li'l Timmy hitting his mom's key fob button and bashing his brain out on the tailgate. I like the Crosstrek one better.
The 2.5 is a perfectly good engine. My gripe with Subaru is they quit making it more efficient or powerful back in 2010. No reason it can’t put down 206 hp like the Toyota 2.5.
@@phillm156 That would be great if they had access to the Toyota engine, but that's pretty high tech unit. The Toyota is also WAY easier to work on. For example, a simple sparkplug change on the 2.5 boxer engine is listed as 2.5 hours of labor at a Subaru dealership, because you have to either partially disassemble the vehicle or use an engine lift to lift the engine out to get to them. This is why almost everyone uses inline four turbos, as they are way easier to work on and offer best midrange power, which is what most regular drivers care about.
We picked up a Crosstrek Premium recently, and that was after we test drove the Subaru Sport. While the Sport had the 2.5 the one thing we noticed was that the Premium's seats were more comfortable. We couldn't really afford the Limited, and the driver power seat was something that was nicer than having to pump the Sport's seat up or down to adjust it. Since my wife will be driving it more than I will the 2.0 isn't a big deal, where she drives to work it's all back country roads, hardly ever on the highway, and with the "manual" such as it is, when winter comes she can put it in a lower gear to deal with the snow that we get here. All in all for us, the Premium in some cases is a better option.
Great review. I just got my Limited Crosstrek as an upgrade from a 2017 Impreza, and the bump in power is really appreciated. The Impreza felt dangerously underpowered at times.
I am still holding on to my 2012 impreza. Can’t decide on the sport or limited. Leaning towards the limited. I get the Impreza to “move”. You just keep it at 5000, rpms or above and flap your arms.
I test drove one of these recently. I'm right now torn between this and the Impreza Sport hatchback (in my opinion, the better handling of the Impreza lineup opposed to the other trims). While the Impreza Sport drove close to a low-to-the-ground sports car (just not as fast, but I'm not complaining about that), the Crosstrek Sport had a "dune buggy" feel to it that I did quite enjoy. It would just come down to if I can find a good deal on either a new, certified, or used one, and if I can find them in my area (used Impreza Sport hatchbacks are especially rare in the St. Louis area).
Turbos are pointless on small block displacement...why would subaru put a 2.0L turbo on it or a 2.4L turbo? When they have the WRX for that purpose.......All these talk of turbos and look at the state of Honda and Kias with those 1.5L turbos that require extremely high compression ratios that stresses your engine to the max. There are so many parts that could go wrong...Not to mention these 1.5L turbos does way worse in fuel economy than the crosstrek does in the 2.5 and none of these small block turbos are any better on power...or torque. What you want is more torque to feel the car repsonsiveness, turbo doesnt help when it has a turbo lag. I rather have the boxer H6 instead of a shitty econo turbo.
@@Hallowsaw What does this have to do with my comment about 1.5L turbos?? Sedans also uses 1.5L turbos...toyota Corolla se uses 1.5L....civic uses 1.5L they are sedans...
182hp is just a figure. What we need is a faster and stronger output in less RPM I am driving a ford ranger and barely hit 3000RPM with casual city/highway drive.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH Which interiors? Which competitors? Subaru's Limited and Touring trims may not have the aesthetic refinement of Audi or Volvo, but they are a hell of a lot of value compared to competitors who want $20K more for their aesthetics. The base and Premium trims aren't any worse than your average Toyota. If you're going to trash something in a Subaru, the infotainment is always and easy target.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH have you seen the inside of a Ford Escape lately? My wife's last SUV, the Ford Escape is a steaming pile compared to the Crosstrek she just got. The Hyundai isn't a hell of a lot better than the Escape.
I find that the paddle shifters in the previous Crosstrek are useful in areas with multiple short/steep/rolling hills. The CVT alone has a hard time keeping up with the rapidly changing torque demands of, for example, a steep uphill that comes immediately after a steep descent. Put it in "2nd gear" yourself with a flick or two of the paddle and you've got all the power you need.
The Larger Info Display from the Outback/Legacy has alot of complaints about "LaggiNess" Not sure we want to have that one unit in here as an option until they get that bug fixed.
I got a legqcy and many times the system freezes ,and do not allow me to do nothing till I arrive and turn off turn on the car . May be related with the processor but also with software, it seems that was not ready for prime time , I already updated the software and it made the system worse , so they remove the update but I already did it so I am waiting for a new and hopefully better software
@@sun0066 I never had that problem during my 2 week test drive. It is a bit laggy on things that are non-HVAC controls. But compared to the 2021 crosstrek i own, i hate the GPS on the legacy. It doesnt speak the directions and often the map just lag and isn't usable at all. Crosstrek does not have those issues.
The old Imprezas were 2.5l and had 180ish hp. Glad to see that Subaru went back to the proper engine... though it needs a stick shift for this engine to enjoy.
With the single function X-Mode, you can just turn off your traction control as well, and it's effectively the same as the dual X-Mode function. Also, all Crosstreks come with roof rails. Aside from the STI, BRZ, and the Legacy, they all get roof rails.
There is nothing wrong with engine power on pre-existing models. . I live in ver Hilly terrain and it handles steep inclines under load with no problems ... Too many reviewers parroting ill informed comments
I got my 2018 Crosstrek Limited back in August 2017 and even though it's slow I have absolutely loved that car and totally recommend it to anyone that doesn't have kids haha. Now I have a baby and need a bit more space and rear AC so I'll be upgrading but I still love this car.
Really nice car and I am in the market. The only "flaw" for me is that it doesn't offer adjustable lumbar support in the driver's seat, not even in the upper trim levels. The competition offers this. This is a deal breaker for me due to chronic lumbar pain. I am surprised Subaru doesn't offer this feature.
@@defazpr I took two test drives and Crosstrek seats don't work for me. The Forester seats were great though as were the ones in the Outback. So I have options if I want to get a Subaru, but it won't be a Crosstrek unfortunately.
CRV is a different class. Crosstrek is subcompact, CRV is compact. Anyways, the CRV actually felt slower to me in a test drive than the limited Crosstrek. The Crosstrek is lighter than the CRV, so horsepower numbers don't really mean much when you compare weight ratios.
a fully loaded cx-30 has way more features than a fully loaded crosstrek. The cx-30 has these features -dual zone climate control (standard on the second trim level and up) -driver power seat with memory (also for the heads up display and mirrors)(standard on the 3rd trim and up) -rear seat airvents (standard on second trim and up) -more power on the base level and offers a crazy upgrade) -led headlights (standard on every trim level not just top trim) -g vectoring control (i mention this because as sofyan is driving straight he has to keep making minor corrections to the wheel, mazda will smooth that out for less driver fatigue) -a lot less windnoise -a premium bose audio system
But no independent rear suspension. Twist beam torsion bar is a big compromise just to be able to get all-wheel drive into the Mazda. And the six-speed automatic transmission is a dog. The Mazda is a front wheel drive based car, the Crosstrek and all Subarus are full all-wheel drive, meaning that the the engine is faced in the correct direction, no compromises were made, as the car was built from the ground up to be all-wheel drive. You can look at your option list all you want, but when you know what to really look for, then you can make a better decision.
@@AbleMable having driven both the CX-30 is way more planted and less unsettled on rough roads and the six speed is waaaaay better than the cvt in the Subaru. We definitely have our own biases and have different priorities
@@AbleMable having driven both the CX-30 is way more planted and less unsettled on rough roads and the six speed is waaaaay better than the cvt in the Subaru. We definitely have our own biases and have different priorities
@@hellochrisdo I was literally a heartbeat away from buying a carbon edition CX30. But it was not until I actually went for a real road test while they were inspecting my trade-in that I got a real feel for the car and I hated that six speed, it was either racing or too low of a gear. I was set on keeping my Fiesta ST for another year, but decided to stop in to a Subaru dealership and test drove a crosstrek Limited. The only one they can find was one with 10,000 mi, which happened to be their loaner car. Way better than the CX30. It was always in the correct gearing ratio for the speed, and when you floored it it moved accordingly. I felt like with the CX30 I had to beat it to death to get it to go. Surprisingly actually, because I just assumed that the CX30 would be the better car. It may be sportier handling, but I think that's due to the fact that it's lower to the ground. Anyways, I don't think that somebody buys a CUV/SUV for sporty handling. I would have gotten a GTI if that was the case. I even test drove a RAV4 and I hated that too, and that one has an 8 speed transmission, but no matter what was happening, the car was not in its optimal ratio for the speed it was going. I was always an anti-CVT guy, because that's just how car guys are, but they've come a long way since the early days. You can't even really tell It's a CVT with the way they fake gear changes. Lol! It's best to go on actual test drives in real world scenarios. I live in the New York City area, and it's very hard to get a real test drive. I had to go to New Jersey dealers to find out what these cars are really about. Oh, also at first I was dead set on getting a CX30 turbo, but it was not until I heard that they were major oil consumption issues that I ran away from them. *This comment was edited because I mentioned something that I already said in my original comment. 👍
Thats what you think but most leds are daytime running lights and possibly fog lights. But the main headlights are still halogen unless you upgrade to premium trims. And most dont offer auto high beam assist
My wife has a 2018 Limited, creature comforts aside the car drives sedately but safely. Our main gripe is that we always get around 25 mpg between fill-ups while the trip computer consistently shows we're getting 28+. It's quieter than a 2016 Toyota Rav4, but the road noise still makes the upgraded car-audio experience less fun when the speed climbs above 50 mph. And it does struggle for power even when moderately pushed on the on-ramp for instance. Overall, it's a great vehicle for the "middle 80%" who care that their car looks nice and is safe, but don't mind the obvious "built to a cost" feel. Overall, we'd still have bought one in hindsight.
People need to stop asking for a turbo engine for a lot of reasons 1) Turbo burns more gas, especially small block turbos 2) Asking for a wrx engine is stupid, just buy a damn wrx 3) even if a turbo exist, its gonna be a 1.5L turbo which you get equivalent horsepower to the 2.5L naturally aspirated. it will not give you more power.....There is a reason why all other manufactures like Kia, Honda, and even Toyota puts a turbo in their cars they are not even 2.0L, its all 1.5L....There is no efficiency gains from doing this. There is a reason why crosstrek 2.5L is even more gas efficient than a CRV turbo.....that only gets 190HP. 4) A turbo does not make your car feel peppier, what you people want is a peppy car that makes it feel like it has more power. This is not the result of a turbo this is the result of the transmission that is tuned for torque. There is a reason why all these small block 1.5L turbo all have way higher torque figures to compensate for the smaller engine. 5) A 3.0L v6 is more efficient in power and gas than your stupid 1.5L turbo or a 2.0L turbo. V6's in Acuras and Lexus gets the same similar mileage as subaru's own 2.4L turbo. 6) MSRP of the car will increase, general overall maintenance cost of a car with a turbo is more expensive. And 95% of you asking for a turbo never even considered buying a car in this segment either way. Your complaints are moot. Forestor XT turbo barely sold compared to regular models. This is the same case with Honda CRVs, and even mazda CX5 themselves. Its not what you small amount of anal people want its what the market demands. Simply market does not demand a turbo at such high price point. And lastly, Dont make an excuse about the fact turbos are good at high elevations. How many people live at high elevations or drive through high elevations daily vs the majority of those that live in large cities (even rural) areas that are at or close to sea levels?
Great review Redline. Since you fawned over the Outback, I would appreciate your perspective on value proposition choice between the two. I am 90% set on a new Subaru for skiing, off-road fun like hiking. But I am also a business executive. Drove Outback and Crosstrek Limited. My needs are split between off road fun and metropolitan sophistication. Just me, no family hauling. I do like the ride quality and refined feel of the Outback. But I also appreciate the sportiness, efficiency and affordability of the Crosstrek. How would you come down on the choice?
@@MultiFabar Hey there! I went with the cross trek Limited. Nearly a year later, had I done it all over again I think I would’ve paid the extra $40 per month in payment to get the outback. Not that I’m dissatisfied with a crosstrek. It does everything it says it’s supposed to. Rather, I simply would’ve appreciated more car for my needs and my style. I only have one criticism of the crosstrek: it tends to drift on the highways. Lane keep assist and semi autonomous driving technology helps tho.
Because most halogen headlights are just bad at giving off adequate proper light at night. The sport really should get the LED headlights. At some point, I assume almost all cars will eventually come with them. My 2016 legacy, the headlights honestly are not that great but the bulbs are pushing almost 5 years old. Maybe they need to be replaced as halogen bulbs do get dimmer over time.
Riste Kostadinov Sorry nut Subaru AWD system isn’t as special as it use to be just like Volvo isn’t the king of crash protection it once was. Everyone has caught up
Riste Kostadinov Wrong. The cvt models are full time with 60/40 split. Any decent AWD system will get you moving in snowng conditions. Before you purchased a Subaru because you needed AWD. Now that damn near every manufacturer offers AWD, Subaru are nothing special
I would trade my 2016 ltd Outback for a ltd crosstrek loaded. I would miss the power gate and programmed seats. So used to it. It does look like the crosstrek CVT has much more response than the Outback which is sluggish. Overall I'm loving this new ltd crosstrek.
I have a 2020 WRX Limited and, while I love the car, I am not impressed with the Harmon Kardon sound system. It depends on what I'm listening to, but with most music it just sounds tinny and weak, not worth the $2100 price (with nav), in my opinion. They also bundle it with a few safety features that you can't get otherwise, which is annoying.
It's not worth it. A far better aftermarket system, complete with harnesses to translate for the steering wheel, runs about $600. For $2,100, you could have some audiophile stuff in there.
@@chooseymomschoose That's why most car companies bundle desirable options with shitty ones, so you are forced to take the package just to get a couple things you actually want. Just one more way in which consumers get fckd by greedy corporations everyday.
I love the Crosstrek 2.5L 182 Hp, I'm sold, my wife's 2013 2.0L has enough power but 30 hp more is like heaven and the Cvt which is very smooth ride just wow.
Oh I hate it when these bozos say that the 18 + crosstrek was under powered. They know NOTHING about power to weight ratios...at all. If you are not familiar with them, how to calculate them then you should not speak as though you do. It has the same power train that the Impreza has and not enough added weight to change that ratio yet the Impreza power is fine? This is just a case of confirmation bias...one person says it and everyone jumps on board. It was designed with adequate power to pass, merge and maneuver safely. Period.
I just bought a 2021 limited in white. Love it the only downside are some minor door rattles when driving on bad road and blasting loud bassy music. Plan on fixing this with some sound deadening in the door panels.
i honestly love what they've done with the crosstrek, and i love being able to see at night with LED lighting, i love the Plasma Yellow color as its unique and rare. All around better vehicle than most others. Great job as always
Im seriously thinking about the Subaru WRX but for my purposes I think the crosstek fits better. Mainly want to use it to travel to mountains for snowboarding and mountain biking. The WRX would be sick and one of my favorite cars but it just doesnt fit my needs. Plus the MPG is significantly better on the crosstek but the WRX is soo sick 😩
You guys say this stuff but if this were to actually happen practically no one in the U.S. would buy one and it would probably get discontinued within a year.
Richard Favreau people always say if a whatever brand offer more power, they would buy one, but they never actually buy one. Crosstrek as a subcompact SUV isn’t meant for those enthusiasts, but for most people out there, they just want a daily driving car that gets good gas mileage, I mean, look at HRV, CHR, even seltos’ Turbo Engine isn’t enough for enthusiasts. Just get a sports car if you want more power like WRX or Type R, just get those cars, stop complaining about a subcompact SUV that isn’t meant for you. A good example is that Forester used to have 250 horsepower turbo engine, but only 5% of people bought the turbo engine, that’s the reason Subaru doesn’t offer XT turbo anymore.
If you had to choose between the following, which would you choose? 2021 Crosstrek Sport 2021 Mazda CX-30 2021 Honda CR-V I would wish Honda would come out with an HR-V with the 1.5T, which is the only reason why I asked about the CR-V....though for me, that's too large of a vehicle. An HR-V with the 1.5T would be outstanding!
They should have a "offroad" trim with a 1 inch suspension lift and rugged tires with black 15 Inch rims. Also it's kind of a bummer that they don't offer manual transmission with the 2.5
Guys, try the cvt. I own a 2.5 outback with a cvt and a 3.6 legacy with a 5speed. I feel the outbacks transmission is MUCH better tuned. And the outback gets way better mpg than my legacy and its a bigger vehicle. Yes merging is a little slower but it does fine stop and go and cruising on the highway.
It’s a nice sub-compact SUV but what most people don’t know is that driving a car with a FWD/RWD are fine for winter 🥶 driving too. I’ve been driving my Lincoln TownCar for a couple of years now in winter as well and handles well. Don’t need AWD/4x4 but I’m sure it could be nice peace of mind, although unnecessary. TownCars a low-mileage you can easily buy for $10k and are great for road trips and moves better than most fuel-efficient cars in the city. I’ve got a 2007 taupe Lincoln TownCar, does 239 horsepower can tow 1500 lbs, has a deep trunk, and not as expensive to buy as a new car. Plus, TownCars last easily more than 400,000 kms V8. Very reliable and low cost of ownership 🤔🤔🤔
Annnnndddd…..287 lbs of torque. Buy a TownCar and if you pay cash have it all paid off you’ll have no lease or loan payments. To me it makes the most financial sense. The TownCar is a bit of a gas hog but has a deep trunk. Enjoy 😊
I’ve never seen so much hate in the comment section of his videos before.. I wonder how many of you guys have owned it, because once you learn how and when to throttle and coast, this thing MOVES. Lmao but seriously, it’s actually a great car to live with and pretty fun to drive (for what it is)
Haha, I particularly don't get people saying it's too small or insisting the smallest Subaru must have at least 250hp or whatever. If you don't buy small cars, there's no need to hate their very existence. It's like someone who doesn't ride bikes looking at bike reviews and saying "That's awful and useless because I don't ride bikes." If only people could distinguish their personal taste from objective fact.
If they’re not gonna boost it, at least give us a manual option in the sport for those of us who like rowing through gears. But then again, it will sell either way.
My limited 2021 has air vents in the back seat. I got the higher end version with the dual toned leather seats, so maybe that’s why? Also, the two USB ports in the center console work well for those in the back seat.
great review Sofan, hopefully we get that engine in the new XV in UK/EU. nice to drive, my dealer has a few as courtesy cars, and i get to drive them when my Outback in for servicing.
Subaru's symmetrical awd system doesn't have the inherent torque steer that others have. For ppl who need an awd or 4wd vehicle Subaru's are a great choice.
Value? Not if you want safety systems. The 2.5L is a must with this vehicle and, if you want blind-side monitoring and cross-traffic alert safety systems, you need to put down $1,600 extra and get a moon roof + other stuff. This puts it just below $30,000. At this price, why not get a proper and larger CR-V or RAV-4, which don't make you get unnecessary stuff for safety. Alternatively, get the CX-30 with safety systems + AWD at $26,400 or an Impreza with same amount of interior volume and safety systems for $25,500.
Ok. I just bought this exact Crosstrek to include color. I have to say i agree with you right on the money. I bought it to move to Hawaii for work. Because i have lived there before this is big and small enough for the off the beaten path beaches. Perfect to fit my dive tanks and still being able to fit in dirt parking lots. I didn’t buy for torque but for the compactness and technology but do appreciate at least 2.5. Thanks for this review.
I would prefer this LIMITED.....as I really don’t care for the SPORT or color.....I do not go off roading, but really like the vehicle. They have a Tan color(not sure what it’s called-nice color as well).
About time they powered up the Crosstrek but it's just a vehicle with off-roading capabilities and a crappy CVT. They need to approach the hybrid Crosstrek with this powertrain and then we have something in terms of fuel economy, power, and hopefully better cargo capacity if they can move the battery.
I have the 2020 Australian version sports which has all the bells and whistles - I love it I had a Volvo XC90 which was a thirsty beast and fast but this XV beats it hands down. There is ni issue with lack of power. I think its in the mind of these paper reviewers parroting ill informed comments
I have a impreza sport wagon and despite the 151hp and cvt, i think it's decent for taking off or pass someone at highway speed. And yes, I'm use to speed, i own a modified car that i use on racetracks. One fun fact about these cars, you can read a tons of reviews about how slow they are, but it is half a second faster on 0-60 then a ford fusion with base engine, which no one ever call "slow".
I bought the original version back in 2013 and was seriously disappointed on a trip to Rocky Mountain National Park when the engine was struggling for power above 7000 feet elevation.
I have the paddles in my 2016 legacy and they are very useful in snowy conditions to simulate upshifts to get some engine braking. It works well because CVTs tends to coast to easily once you are off the gas pedal. I also use them sometimes when going down steep hills upstate NY to keep that coasting at bay. I don't know if people use them like that but if they don't in certain conditions they should, granted they do it correct and don't screw anything up.
Got a ‘13 Crosstrek. I put mine in manual mode when going up my driveway (very steep) so it holds “1st gear”. If not it tends to bog down. I also turn off traction control. Don’t have a problem on the main roads, but when I get home and my gravel driveway isn’t plowed, I spin a lot, so “1st” and traction control off help a lot.
Looks like a good car. Glad they’ve gave it some more horsepower but a massive bummer you can’t get a manual. Not exciting but it does what it’s made to do.
It's not a manual per se, my wife got the Crosstrek and it was what could be best described as a manual mode with the paddle shifters. What's nice about it and one of reasons we got it, where we live ours will be on back country roads more than the highway so the 2.0 isn't a big deal, but the ability to shift into lower gears when we get snowstorms here and in bad weather is. If you shift into the manual mode and then turn off the traction control, you're essentially getting a 4 wheel drive low, which is great for snow and if you have to go off roading.
I actually like the rugged Subie looks and the power bump is a welcome improvement, but unless you're constantly driving through unpaved roads, it's hard to justify going against the CX-30 in this class.
CX-30 is smaller. The back seats are cramped and can't be properly folded down. The AWD works only at a low speed. The ride is not as good as with the Crosstrek.
@@mrayva00 Sure the Mazda isn't perfect, but the refinement/build quality, and handling just feel a class above everything else in this segment. If I needed rear space on a daily basis, I wouldn't be shopping in this size class, personally, but to each their own.
Cx30 is not true four-wheel independent suspension. The back is torsion beam. The infotainment is awful (Android Auto and CarPlay are designed for touch screen), the visibility is dreadful, the backseat is tiny, and has an archaic 6 speed auto transmission. People can complain all they want about the CVT, but until they drive one of these, they are just talking out of their ass. I test drove a CX 30 and Crosstrek Limited in the same day. The Subaru felt more responsive. CVT is always in the exact proper ratio for the speed it's going, rather than hunting for the proper gear (out of a measly 6). Oh, And that's not forget resale value is so much better with the Subaru. There's a reason why you can go to a dealer and get a CX30 on the spot, as opposed to having to wait for a Subaru. So there's a lot of reasons why somebody would get a Crosstrek over a CX30.
They really should make a "Crosstrek WRX (or STI)" and give this thing that turbo motor and a performance offroad suspension (think almost like a baby SUV raptor) and price it around 35-38K. They would all sell out and it would bring excitement to the brand.
From what I've heard, the manual transmission in the Crosstrek is not very good. I believe that Car And Driver magazine said that they preferred the CVT over the manual, which is saying a lot.
they should have .... instead made a supercharger kit for the 2.0, and generate MORE revenue, and have a back port to previous gen. From that 2.0 boxer FB20, and put up a slight 25hp-40hp, while giving a 30-40Nm torque as well...without compromising much on fuel consumption and engine wear/tear.
Actually, it was more than 9 years ago that Subaru lifted and clad the Impreza. It was 1992 when they introduced the Outback Sport. The Crosstrek is simply a rebranding of the product that was far from an experiment.
I had a 2005 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport fully loaded and loved it till some bitch blew a red light and t-boned me at full speed. She hit me right before the front tire. The car protected me very well but sadly after that, she was no more. This was before the changeover to EL headers from UEL headers so it even had a little bit of that boxer rumble that went away with the change to EL headers.
7:00 I like the sound that Subaru makes on starting up; I've never owned a Subaru, and wish I had a 3 car garage; I would get one. I like the gauge display also. ....Who is in the passenger seat? ...at 0.09 it looks off to the left that there are some chairs piled up ???......Why are you in Middleburg Virginia and not near your home where most of your reviews take place......
I have the 2020, they say they have USB ports in the rear but I couldn’t find them. I think the ones in the armrest compartment qualifies as the two rear USB ports. Upset I lost out on the 30 extra horsepower though!
I checked out the new Crosstreks at the dealer yesterday while getting my Impreza's oil change. It looks like the bigger engine is about a $4 - 5k upgrade over the 2.0.
My biggest issue with the new Crosstrek is to get the 2.5L engine you end up spending more than the base Forester, which is a more functional vehicle in every way. Yes you get some "premium" features on the 2.5L trim but those are wasted on me.
I've always loved the design and paint colors of the Crosstrek. The biggest complaint I've heard with these all of these new Subarus is automatic engine start/stop systems. The complaints are that restarts are harsh and laggy. Lots of complaints on the owner forums. You never seem to review these auto start/stop systems even though there is a lot of variation between manufacturers. Does the Crosstrek have a physical disable button for the start/stop system? Has it been improved at all?
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The Crosstrek gets that MUCH needed power boost for 2021! Are the extra 30 horses enough to make you reconsider getting one?
@Richard Favreau and the Mazda is so much nicer inside and has more equipment. Subaru simply gliding on its laurels with its fanboys now
@Richard Favreau
That's true I just read that it's just all that cladding dosen't work for me
Simply No
180 hp from a 2.5L? What is that 1960 engineering lmao?
@Richard Favreau CX-30 is smaller. The back seats are cramped and can't be properly folded down. The AWD works only at a low speed. The ride is not as good as with the Crosstrek.
People are so used to powerful vehicles now. When an adequately powered vehicle comes along it "feels" underpowered.
I blame the market of tiny small ass engine with turbos like 1.5l and highly tuned torque transmissions like dcts for the pep feeling rather than power.
Most people want pep torque feeling vs how much power their car actually puts out.
@@441meatloaf i second this
the business i worked for has a transit connect with a turbo engine and some conventional minivans with a big ass v6. people would always want to sign out the turbocharged ford because it's "fAsTeR" even tho the v6 vans ran 0-60 like 2 if not 3 seconds faster.
who knew that when something shakes around and rumbles more, and makes cooler noises people think it's faster.
I love your reviews.
I'm surprised that none of the car reviewers mention that Subaru is about the only car manufacturer that still includes a CD player. For us older folks with a lot of CD's that is still a good feature and it'll influence my choice of which vehicle to buy next.
Hey Sofyan, I had been considering the Crosstrek for a couple months. After watching this review I took the leap! I’m now the proud owner of a 2021 Crosstrek Limited and I LOVE LOVE LOVE it.. Thanks for another amazing review! 👏🏽👏🏽
Fast forward.. Discovered my 2021 Crosstrek has defective paint! Clearcoat burned in the sun from a tiny spot of bird poop now paint has bubbled.. A problem quite common and one that Subaru knows about, but refused to correct! SOO, I had no choice but to trade her! Back to Toyota..
@@lindseymothersbaugh5766 Was their explanation since it hadn’t corroded through the metal for not fixing it?
@@JaxWatchesandEDC No explaination other than the corporate “Subaru has no open recall for this issue at the present time!” BS! I’ll never own another Subaru product..
I went on car complaints and saw there were also multiple issues between 2020-2021 with cracked windshields. One reports said the moonroof glass exploded too 😶
@@lindseymothersbaugh5766 that didn’t age well.
Just got my 2021 Crosstrek limited two days ago. Same color, but no moonroof.
That color is really cool! Congrats! Enjoy! Moonroof is nice but not that big of a deal
Limited without a moonroof? Yikes 😬
@@James-il3tq usa doesn't get it. But canadian limited models is a standard moonroof
I have the exact same car - added the STI rear spoiler - also no moonroof as I'm 6'5" - I absolutely love this CrossTrek. Power is fine and...I traded in my 2018 BMW M2 for it! Best car decision I ever made.
No moonroof on a Limited? Not really a "Limited" then. Not sure why Subaru doesn't make these things standard in NA. Personally I'm not a fan of moonroofs/sunroofs. Just another potential source of eventual leaks, too much light in my eyes and hot sun on my head. I have one on one of my cars and it stays closed 99% of the time. I crack it up for ventilation once in a while.
The Crosstrek with the 2.5 L engine is going to be a big seller, already it is a sharp looking vehicle.
2.5 for this size would be totally enough especially combines with the best AWD and boxer engine
I have a 2019 manual premium. Honestly if the 2.5 engine was sold w a manual in premium or sport I would seriously consider a trade up. The manual truly allows the choice of gearing for excellent spirited driving. 1rst gear is a very low granny gear and a quick shift to second allows redline to come quickly it is also relatively a lower ratio. 3rd stretches your legs, 4th is shorter as is 5th, 6th is long. The gearing work real well w the 2.0 once you learn it’s temperament. Coming from a 2006 Audi A3 manual, the Crosstrek shares the BRZ steering ratio pinion gear gives the manual Crosstrek a huge fun value. If only the 2.5 was available w a stick.
I live in a rural mtn town and these things are EVERYWHERE!!!👁️👁️. I think they are a good fit for this terrain. Rugged just enough but good on gas and easy to park in town...I like the funky blues and oranges that Subaru has come out with... Sofyan must have caught a chill....out of the shorts and tees and into the jeans and jersey...
Subaru is the unofficial, official car of the Rocky Mountains.
We have a 2019. We love our slow-baru! Great little car - you just have to step on it. Great review!
Not if you go off-road regularly, appreciate lower center of gravity, more usable room. But to each his own. The Mazda has some major pluses.
I think its great that It doesnt have a power lift gate. More parts that can break.
Said no one.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH The Outback lift gate is SLOOOOOOOW, by design. Lawyers don't want li'l Timmy hitting his mom's key fob button and bashing his brain out on the tailgate. I like the Crosstrek one better.
The world's gone lazy, those are the folks that whine & complain
@@chooseymomschooseomg my mom's Forester took forever to open and close. It almost broke!
I like the color of that Crosstrek, and I think it has a sporty look to it. 👍🚙
"However there's now the big block 2.5L" for some reason it made me roll a little😂
Why? How big an engine do you want in a subcompact?
@@alansach8437 I'm just quoting on what he said it just me laugh for some reason i don't want anything.
@@alansach8437 "Big block" is a term that typically refers to 427 cubic inch displacement engines, so its comical calling a tiny 2.5L one that.
The 2.5 is a perfectly good engine. My gripe with Subaru is they quit making it more efficient or powerful back in 2010. No reason it can’t put down 206 hp like the Toyota 2.5.
@@phillm156 That would be great if they had access to the Toyota engine, but that's pretty high tech unit. The Toyota is also WAY easier to work on. For example, a simple sparkplug change on the 2.5 boxer engine is listed as 2.5 hours of labor at a Subaru dealership, because you have to either partially disassemble the vehicle or use an engine lift to lift the engine out to get to them. This is why almost everyone uses inline four turbos, as they are way easier to work on and offer best midrange power, which is what most regular drivers care about.
We picked up a Crosstrek Premium recently, and that was after we test drove the Subaru Sport. While the Sport had the 2.5 the one thing we noticed was that the Premium's seats were more comfortable. We couldn't really afford the Limited, and the driver power seat was something that was nicer than having to pump the Sport's seat up or down to adjust it. Since my wife will be driving it more than I will the 2.0 isn't a big deal, where she drives to work it's all back country roads, hardly ever on the highway, and with the "manual" such as it is, when winter comes she can put it in a lower gear to deal with the snow that we get here. All in all for us, the Premium in some cases is a better option.
Great review. I just got my Limited Crosstrek as an upgrade from a 2017 Impreza, and the bump in power is really appreciated. The Impreza felt dangerously underpowered at times.
I am still holding on to my 2012 impreza. Can’t decide on the sport or limited. Leaning towards the limited. I get the Impreza to “move”. You just keep it at 5000, rpms or above and flap your arms.
I hope Honda and Toyota are looking at the Cross Trek's new engine and will make the needed change to HRV and CH-R.
And awd in the ch-r
The 2022 Honda HRV will bring the necessary changes. The C-HR is a joke. It probably will be replaced with the Corolla Cross.
Nice! My wife has the 2018 which does lack power. This is a good upgrade but I rather pay off her car
I test drove one of these recently. I'm right now torn between this and the Impreza Sport hatchback (in my opinion, the better handling of the Impreza lineup opposed to the other trims). While the Impreza Sport drove close to a low-to-the-ground sports car (just not as fast, but I'm not complaining about that), the Crosstrek Sport had a "dune buggy" feel to it that I did quite enjoy. It would just come down to if I can find a good deal on either a new, certified, or used one, and if I can find them in my area (used Impreza Sport hatchbacks are especially rare in the St. Louis area).
2.5L should be base engine, turbo should be on sport/limited models.
Turbos are pointless on small block displacement...why would subaru put a 2.0L turbo on it or a 2.4L turbo? When they have the WRX for that purpose.......All these talk of turbos and look at the state of Honda and Kias with those 1.5L turbos that require extremely high compression ratios that stresses your engine to the max. There are so many parts that could go wrong...Not to mention these 1.5L turbos does way worse in fuel economy than the crosstrek does in the 2.5 and none of these small block turbos are any better on power...or torque.
What you want is more torque to feel the car repsonsiveness, turbo doesnt help when it has a turbo lag. I rather have the boxer H6 instead of a shitty econo turbo.
@@441meatloaf because wagon... not everyone can get away with a sedan
@@Hallowsaw What does this have to do with my comment about 1.5L turbos?? Sedans also uses 1.5L turbos...toyota Corolla se uses 1.5L....civic uses 1.5L they are sedans...
Y'all is driving too fast if yo think 182bhp is a base engine.
182hp is just a figure. What we need is a faster and stronger output in less RPM
I am driving a ford ranger and barely hit 3000RPM with casual city/highway drive.
Subarus have the most appeal these days. Love their latest interiors
They are getting better
Their interiors are crap compared to competitors.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH Which interiors? Which competitors? Subaru's Limited and Touring trims may not have the aesthetic refinement of Audi or Volvo, but they are a hell of a lot of value compared to competitors who want $20K more for their aesthetics. The base and Premium trims aren't any worse than your average Toyota. If you're going to trash something in a Subaru, the infotainment is always and easy target.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH you apparently haven’t checked out a Subaru in the last year.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH have you seen the inside of a Ford Escape lately? My wife's last SUV, the Ford Escape is a steaming pile compared to the Crosstrek she just got. The Hyundai isn't a hell of a lot better than the Escape.
I find that the paddle shifters in the previous Crosstrek are useful in areas with multiple short/steep/rolling hills. The CVT alone has a hard time keeping up with the rapidly changing torque demands of, for example, a steep uphill that comes immediately after a steep descent. Put it in "2nd gear" yourself with a flick or two of the paddle and you've got all the power you need.
Many people though powershift and paddle shift in CVT are useless, even they are useful for hill climbing.
I like that it comes with a 6 speed manual and AWD. What more do you need for $23,000
Lmao
The size and utility was perfect for me, but I ruled out the previous crosstrek because of the lack of power. I may need to consider a trade-in.
The Larger Info Display from the Outback/Legacy has alot of complaints about "LaggiNess" Not sure we want to have that one unit in here as an option until they get that bug fixed.
The lag isn't really a bug software wise. Its the way how they use a weaker cpu on the infotainment.
I got a legqcy and many times the system freezes ,and do not allow me to do nothing till I arrive and turn off turn on the car . May be related with the processor but also with software, it seems that was not ready for prime time , I already updated the software and it made the system worse , so they remove the update but I already did it so I am waiting for a new and hopefully better software
@@sun0066 I never had that problem during my 2 week test drive. It is a bit laggy on things that are non-HVAC controls. But compared to the 2021 crosstrek i own, i hate the GPS on the legacy. It doesnt speak the directions and often the map just lag and isn't usable at all. Crosstrek does not have those issues.
The old Imprezas were 2.5l and had 180ish hp. Glad to see that Subaru went back to the proper engine... though it needs a stick shift for this engine to enjoy.
With the single function X-Mode, you can just turn off your traction control as well, and it's effectively the same as the dual X-Mode function. Also, all Crosstreks come with roof rails. Aside from the STI, BRZ, and the Legacy, they all get roof rails.
Now if they woulda kept the 18-20 model limited wheels on it. It would’ve been been damn near perfect!
There is nothing wrong with engine power on pre-existing models. . I live in ver Hilly terrain and it handles steep inclines under load with no problems ... Too many reviewers parroting ill informed comments
I got my 2018 Crosstrek Limited back in August 2017 and even though it's slow I have absolutely loved that car and totally recommend it to anyone that doesn't have kids haha. Now I have a baby and need a bit more space and rear AC so I'll be upgrading but I still love this car.
You need rear AC for your kid? LMAO.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH Yeah, I don't get that at all. The vents in the front will cool the entire car.
Really nice car and I am in the market. The only "flaw" for me is that it doesn't offer adjustable lumbar support in the driver's seat, not even in the upper trim levels. The competition offers this. This is a deal breaker for me due to chronic lumbar pain. I am surprised Subaru doesn't offer this feature.
Lumbar is a requirement for me as well
Me too!
Seats are some ergonomic, you won't need it.
get a cushion.
@@defazpr I took two test drives and Crosstrek seats don't work for me. The Forester seats were great though as were the ones in the Outback. So I have options if I want to get a Subaru, but it won't be a Crosstrek unfortunately.
I didn’t realize how slow cross treks were until now. 8.2 secs is cutting off over a second from the last model. Omg that’s makes my CR-V appear fast.
CRV is a different class. Crosstrek is subcompact, CRV is compact. Anyways, the CRV actually felt slower to me in a test drive than the limited Crosstrek. The Crosstrek is lighter than the CRV, so horsepower numbers don't really mean much when you compare weight ratios.
a fully loaded cx-30 has way more features than a fully loaded crosstrek.
The cx-30 has these features
-dual zone climate control (standard on the second trim level and up)
-driver power seat with memory (also for the heads up display and mirrors)(standard on the 3rd trim and up)
-rear seat airvents (standard on second trim and up)
-more power on the base level and offers a crazy upgrade)
-led headlights (standard on every trim level not just top trim)
-g vectoring control (i mention this because as sofyan is driving straight he has to keep making minor corrections to the wheel, mazda will smooth that out for less driver fatigue)
-a lot less windnoise
-a premium bose audio system
Don't forget standard led turn signal and more power too
But no independent rear suspension. Twist beam torsion bar is a big compromise just to be able to get all-wheel drive into the Mazda. And the six-speed automatic transmission is a dog. The Mazda is a front wheel drive based car, the Crosstrek and all Subarus are full all-wheel drive, meaning that the the engine is faced in the correct direction, no compromises were made, as the car was built from the ground up to be all-wheel drive. You can look at your option list all you want, but when you know what to really look for, then you can make a better decision.
@@AbleMable having driven both the CX-30 is way more planted and less unsettled on rough roads and the six speed is waaaaay better than the cvt in the Subaru. We definitely have our own biases and have different priorities
@@AbleMable having driven both the CX-30 is way more planted and less unsettled on rough roads and the six speed is waaaaay better than the cvt in the Subaru. We definitely have our own biases and have different priorities
@@hellochrisdo I was literally a heartbeat away from buying a carbon edition CX30. But it was not until I actually went for a real road test while they were inspecting my trade-in that I got a real feel for the car and I hated that six speed, it was either racing or too low of a gear. I was set on keeping my Fiesta ST for another year, but decided to stop in to a Subaru dealership and test drove a crosstrek Limited. The only one they can find was one with 10,000 mi, which happened to be their loaner car. Way better than the CX30. It was always in the correct gearing ratio for the speed, and when you floored it it moved accordingly. I felt like with the CX30 I had to beat it to death to get it to go. Surprisingly actually, because I just assumed that the CX30 would be the better car. It may be sportier handling, but I think that's due to the fact that it's lower to the ground. Anyways, I don't think that somebody buys a CUV/SUV for sporty handling. I would have gotten a GTI if that was the case. I even test drove a RAV4 and I hated that too, and that one has an 8 speed transmission, but no matter what was happening, the car was not in its optimal ratio for the speed it was going. I was always an anti-CVT guy, because that's just how car guys are, but they've come a long way since the early days. You can't even really tell It's a CVT with the way they fake gear changes. Lol! It's best to go on actual test drives in real world scenarios. I live in the New York City area, and it's very hard to get a real test drive. I had to go to New Jersey dealers to find out what these cars are really about. Oh, also at first I was dead set on getting a CX30 turbo, but it was not until I heard that they were major oil consumption issues that I ran away from them.
*This comment was edited because I mentioned something that I already said in my original comment. 👍
I thought all new vehicles made right now would have standard led headlights by now.
Not even close yet
I just bought a Volkswagen Tiguan SE and it has LED DRL’s but the headlights are still Halogen. I’ll make sure my next vehicle has LED Headlights
Thats what you think but most leds are daytime running lights and possibly fog lights. But the main headlights are still halogen unless you upgrade to premium trims. And most dont offer auto high beam assist
My 2017 suburu has all the bells and whistles but not LED lights. Makes me mad. Lol.
@@rogersmith3295 Buy afternarket
Honestly, I wish they made one without any cladding. Impreza parts, please.
My wife has a 2018 Limited, creature comforts aside the car drives sedately but safely. Our main gripe is that we always get around 25 mpg between fill-ups while the trip computer consistently shows we're getting 28+. It's quieter than a 2016 Toyota Rav4, but the road noise still makes the upgraded car-audio experience less fun when the speed climbs above 50 mph. And it does struggle for power even when moderately pushed on the on-ramp for instance. Overall, it's a great vehicle for the "middle 80%" who care that their car looks nice and is safe, but don't mind the obvious "built to a cost" feel. Overall, we'd still have bought one in hindsight.
People need to stop asking for a turbo engine for a lot of reasons
1) Turbo burns more gas, especially small block turbos
2) Asking for a wrx engine is stupid, just buy a damn wrx
3) even if a turbo exist, its gonna be a 1.5L turbo which you get equivalent horsepower to the 2.5L naturally aspirated. it will not give you more power.....There is a reason why all other manufactures like Kia, Honda, and even Toyota puts a turbo in their cars they are not even 2.0L, its all 1.5L....There is no efficiency gains from doing this. There is a reason why crosstrek 2.5L is even more gas efficient than a CRV turbo.....that only gets 190HP.
4) A turbo does not make your car feel peppier, what you people want is a peppy car that makes it feel like it has more power. This is not the result of a turbo this is the result of the transmission that is tuned for torque. There is a reason why all these small block 1.5L turbo all have way higher torque figures to compensate for the smaller engine.
5) A 3.0L v6 is more efficient in power and gas than your stupid 1.5L turbo or a 2.0L turbo. V6's in Acuras and Lexus gets the same similar mileage as subaru's own 2.4L turbo.
6) MSRP of the car will increase, general overall maintenance cost of a car with a turbo is more expensive. And 95% of you asking for a turbo never even considered buying a car in this segment either way. Your complaints are moot. Forestor XT turbo barely sold compared to regular models. This is the same case with Honda CRVs, and even mazda CX5 themselves. Its not what you small amount of anal people want its what the market demands. Simply market does not demand a turbo at such high price point.
And lastly,
Dont make an excuse about the fact turbos are good at high elevations. How many people live at high elevations or drive through high elevations daily vs the majority of those that live in large cities (even rural) areas that are at or close to sea levels?
They should use the brz motor in the Crosstrack, and Impreza.
Great review Redline. Since you fawned over the Outback, I would appreciate your perspective on value proposition choice between the two. I am 90% set on a new Subaru for skiing, off-road fun like hiking. But I am also a business executive. Drove Outback and Crosstrek Limited. My needs are split between off road fun and metropolitan sophistication. Just me, no family hauling. I do like the ride quality and refined feel of the Outback. But I also appreciate the sportiness, efficiency and affordability of the Crosstrek. How would you come down on the choice?
Hey Anthony which one did you end up choosing?
@@MultiFabar Hey there! I went with the cross trek Limited. Nearly a year later, had I done it all over again I think I would’ve paid the extra $40 per month in payment to get the outback. Not that I’m dissatisfied with a crosstrek. It does everything it says it’s supposed to. Rather, I simply would’ve appreciated more car for my needs and my style. I only have one criticism of the crosstrek: it tends to drift on the highways. Lane keep assist and semi autonomous driving technology helps tho.
@@defazpr oh sorry to hear that. How does the crosstrek not meet your needs and style? If you don’t mind me asking.
Why does every motoring journalist make such a fuss about the headlights on new cars?
Because most halogen headlights are just bad at giving off adequate proper light at night. The sport really should get the LED headlights. At some point, I assume almost all cars will eventually come with them. My 2016 legacy, the headlights honestly are not that great but the bulbs are pushing almost 5 years old. Maybe they need to be replaced as halogen bulbs do get dimmer over time.
@@flat4forlife588 as do most people
People like to see at night, perhaps?
It is the year 2020 and solid headlight technology should not be an “option”.
I like the Crosstrek and appreciate the better engine, but I'm waiting on the new Turbo Mazda CX-30.
Crosstrek's huge pro is the awd system. For less than 35k you got grade A awd system, if that means something to you.
Riste Kostadinov Sorry nut Subaru AWD system isn’t as special as it use to be just like Volvo isn’t the king of crash protection it once was. Everyone has caught up
@@v60polestar88 lol wtf are you talking about is full time awd and its rear wheel drive bias.
Riste Kostadinov Wrong. The cvt models are full time with 60/40 split. Any decent AWD system will get you moving in snowng conditions. Before you purchased a Subaru because you needed AWD. Now that damn near every manufacturer offers AWD, Subaru are nothing special
@@ristekostadinov2820 It's 60/40 front biased with the CVT and not really special.
I would trade my 2016 ltd Outback for a ltd crosstrek loaded. I would miss the power gate and programmed seats. So used to it. It does look like the crosstrek CVT has much more response than the Outback which is sluggish. Overall I'm loving this new ltd crosstrek.
I have a 2020 WRX Limited and, while I love the car, I am not impressed with the Harmon Kardon sound system. It depends on what I'm listening to, but with most music it just sounds tinny and weak, not worth the $2100 price (with nav), in my opinion. They also bundle it with a few safety features that you can't get otherwise, which is annoying.
It's not worth it. A far better aftermarket system, complete with harnesses to translate for the steering wheel, runs about $600. For $2,100, you could have some audiophile stuff in there.
@@chooseymomschoose That's why most car companies bundle desirable options with shitty ones, so you are forced to take the package just to get a couple things you actually want. Just one more way in which consumers get fckd by greedy corporations everyday.
I always appreciate your reviews and I was really looking forward to this one! Very thoughtful critiques on how this new 2.5L engine drives.
Interestingly in Israel the XV has electronic emergency brake and dual zone climate control.
I love the Crosstrek 2.5L 182 Hp, I'm sold, my wife's 2013 2.0L has enough power but 30 hp more is like heaven and the Cvt which is very smooth ride just wow.
Oh I hate it when these bozos say that the 18 + crosstrek was under powered. They know NOTHING about power to weight ratios...at all. If you are not familiar with them, how to calculate them then you should not speak as though you do. It has the same power train that the Impreza has and not enough added weight to change that ratio yet the Impreza power is fine? This is just a case of confirmation bias...one person says it and everyone jumps on board. It was designed with adequate power to pass, merge and maneuver safely. Period.
So they finally give the crosstrek more power... but give us a giant middle finger by not offering it with a stick...
I just bought a 2021 limited in white. Love it the only downside are some minor door rattles when driving on bad road and blasting loud bassy music. Plan on fixing this with some sound deadening in the door panels.
i honestly love what they've done with the crosstrek, and i love being able to see at night with LED lighting, i love the Plasma Yellow color as its unique and rare. All around better vehicle than most others. Great job as always
No LED on Plasma Yellow, as that is Sport trim that does not get the lights.
Im seriously thinking about the Subaru WRX but for my purposes I think the crosstek fits better. Mainly want to use it to travel to mountains for snowboarding and mountain biking. The WRX would be sick and one of my favorite cars but it just doesnt fit my needs. Plus the MPG is significantly better on the crosstek but the WRX is soo sick 😩
Add a roof rack and your set. Personally I might trade my wrx for this crosstrek since I'm going to be a father in a few months.
In this category is Subaru Crosstrek and Mazda CX30 are the only options to consider, I wouldn't even waste my time looking at Toyotas and Hondas.
Along with the first two you mentioned, I'm also considering the Hyundai Kona. I'm taking a break from shopping, and will wait for the 2022 models.
Put a WRX drivetrain with a stick and I would consider it
You guys say this stuff but if this were to actually happen practically no one in the U.S. would buy one and it would probably get discontinued within a year.
MN Mikha LOL
Then just get the WRX
Black Whirlwind I agree!
Richard Favreau people always say if a whatever brand offer more power, they would buy one, but they never actually buy one. Crosstrek as a subcompact SUV isn’t meant for those enthusiasts, but for most people out there, they just want a daily driving car that gets good gas mileage, I mean, look at HRV, CHR, even seltos’ Turbo Engine isn’t enough for enthusiasts. Just get a sports car if you want more power like WRX or Type R, just get those cars, stop complaining about a subcompact SUV that isn’t meant for you. A good example is that Forester used to have 250 horsepower turbo engine, but only 5% of people bought the turbo engine, that’s the reason Subaru doesn’t offer XT turbo anymore.
The one thing I found odd in the premium and the limited is the CD player. Who still uses CDs?
If you had to choose between the following, which would you choose?
2021 Crosstrek Sport
2021 Mazda CX-30
2021 Honda CR-V
I would wish Honda would come out with an HR-V with the 1.5T, which is the only reason why I asked about the CR-V....though for me, that's too large of a vehicle. An HR-V with the 1.5T would be outstanding!
Crosstrek Sports
@@VK7AM Thank you for chiming in!
They should have a "offroad" trim with a 1 inch suspension lift and rugged tires with black 15 Inch rims. Also it's kind of a bummer that they don't offer manual transmission with the 2.5
I know that I'm nick picking but the only thing missing for me is a larger sunroof and a power lift gate, that's what I'm used to 😏
Yea but this is a budget SUV. Not a minivan.
I drive a busted up 01 Nissan altima ,I'm buying the crosstrek limited in a few months
Guys, try the cvt. I own a 2.5 outback with a cvt and a 3.6 legacy with a 5speed. I feel the outbacks transmission is MUCH better tuned. And the outback gets way better mpg than my legacy and its a bigger vehicle. Yes merging is a little slower but it does fine stop and go and cruising on the highway.
It’s a nice sub-compact SUV but what most people don’t know is that driving a car with a FWD/RWD are fine for winter 🥶 driving too. I’ve been driving my Lincoln TownCar for a couple of years now in winter as well and handles well. Don’t need AWD/4x4 but I’m sure it could be nice peace of mind, although unnecessary. TownCars a low-mileage you can easily buy for $10k and are great for road trips and moves better than most fuel-efficient cars in the city. I’ve got a 2007 taupe Lincoln TownCar, does 239 horsepower can tow 1500 lbs, has a deep trunk, and not as expensive to buy as a new car. Plus, TownCars last easily more than 400,000 kms V8. Very reliable and low cost of ownership 🤔🤔🤔
Annnnndddd…..287 lbs of torque. Buy a TownCar and if you pay cash have it all paid off you’ll have no lease or loan payments. To me it makes the most financial sense. The TownCar is a bit of a gas hog but has a deep trunk. Enjoy 😊
I’ve never seen so much hate in the comment section of his videos before.. I wonder how many of you guys have owned it, because once you learn how and when to throttle and coast, this thing MOVES. Lmao but seriously, it’s actually a great car to live with and pretty fun to drive (for what it is)
Haha, I particularly don't get people saying it's too small or insisting the smallest Subaru must have at least 250hp or whatever. If you don't buy small cars, there's no need to hate their very existence. It's like someone who doesn't ride bikes looking at bike reviews and saying "That's awful and useless because I don't ride bikes." If only people could distinguish their personal taste from objective fact.
Yeah it moves alright, like a turtle.
@@Krytzum most are just spreading misinformation and guaranteed 100% none of them sat in the car and tried it yet.
It's all the Mazda fan boys. The ones who remind us how "amazing" Mazda is, even though the general consumers don't buy them😂
@@nosah8415 your comment is a tru fact.
If they’re not gonna boost it, at least give us a manual option in the sport for those of us who like rowing through gears. But then again, it will sell either way.
This is the car I’m thinking of getting when we move to Hawaii, it’ll be great on rough road.
My limited 2021 has air vents in the back seat. I got the higher end version with the dual toned leather seats, so maybe that’s why? Also, the two USB ports in the center console work well for those in the back seat.
Friend just got a 2018 one. Only thing I was questioning is the interior lights being red at night and that CVT.
Red lights don't blow out night vision.
Personally I prefer the more rugged look of the Sport (Outdoor in Canada) with the black wheels and grill. Both are good looking units though.
Its just called the XV Sports here in Australia. Top of the range with 18" wheels
This is a great video, good camera angles to show the car outside and in, but, breath man, slow down on your descriptions and explanations.
No collab with TFL? One of them was in the passenger seat
Oh that was Micah?
I Think that was Rob. but oh well.
Robert Porter I could have sworn I saw the TFL logo, but it’s just the E in redline. My bad. Yeah it’s probably Rob
great review Sofan, hopefully we get that engine in the new XV in UK/EU. nice to drive, my dealer has a few as courtesy cars, and i get to drive them when my Outback in for servicing.
Subaru's symmetrical awd system doesn't have the inherent torque steer that others have. For ppl who need an awd or 4wd vehicle Subaru's are a great choice.
Value? Not if you want safety systems.
The 2.5L is a must with this vehicle and, if you want blind-side monitoring and cross-traffic alert safety systems, you need to put down $1,600 extra and get a moon roof + other stuff. This puts it just below $30,000. At this price, why not get a proper and larger CR-V or RAV-4, which don't make you get unnecessary stuff for safety.
Alternatively, get the CX-30 with safety systems + AWD at $26,400 or an Impreza with same amount of interior volume and safety systems for $25,500.
Ok. I just bought this exact Crosstrek to include color. I have to say i agree with you right on the money. I bought it to move to Hawaii for work. Because i have lived there before this is big and small enough for the off the beaten path beaches. Perfect to fit my dive tanks and still being able to fit in dirt parking lots. I didn’t buy for torque but for the compactness and technology but do appreciate at least 2.5. Thanks for this review.
Waiting for my ‘21 Impreza limited hatchback. Could you do a review please.
I would prefer this LIMITED.....as I really don’t care for the SPORT or color.....I do not go off roading, but really like the vehicle. They have a Tan color(not sure what it’s called-nice color as well).
Imaging toeing 1500lbs in that car. I would be terrified.
ASVP 1500 lbs is practically nothing. Other than CVT longevity you will hardly notice a trailer of that size.
Turbo next?
Real Automatic?
About time they powered up the Crosstrek but it's just a vehicle with off-roading capabilities and a crappy CVT. They need to approach the hybrid Crosstrek with this powertrain and then we have something in terms of fuel economy, power, and hopefully better cargo capacity if they can move the battery.
I owe a sport and it's fast enough.
I have the 2020 Australian version sports which has all the bells and whistles - I love it I had a Volvo XC90 which was a thirsty beast and fast but this XV beats it hands down. There is ni issue with lack of power. I think its in the mind of these paper reviewers parroting ill informed comments
I have a impreza sport wagon and despite the 151hp and cvt, i think it's decent for taking off or pass someone at highway speed. And yes, I'm use to speed, i own a modified car that i use on racetracks. One fun fact about these cars, you can read a tons of reviews about how slow they are, but it is half a second faster on 0-60 then a ford fusion with base engine, which no one ever call "slow".
10:44 - dang... any of my friends over 6ft will have quite the bent neck in the back seat. :-(
I bought the original version back in 2013 and was seriously disappointed on a trip to Rocky Mountain National Park when the engine was struggling for power above 7000 feet elevation.
I'm ready for the '22 Forester with the XT turbo engine
@IMxYOURxDADDY why not? The Outback now has a turbo engine so..
@@Mike_44 because people didn't buy the last Forester XT. At least not enough for Subaru to keep making it.
I have the paddles in my 2016 legacy and they are very useful in snowy conditions to simulate upshifts to get some engine braking. It works well because CVTs tends to coast to easily once you are off the gas pedal. I also use them sometimes when going down steep hills upstate NY to keep that coasting at bay. I don't know if people use them like that but if they don't in certain conditions they should, granted they do it correct and don't screw anything up.
Got a ‘13 Crosstrek. I put mine in manual mode when going up my driveway (very steep) so it holds “1st gear”. If not it tends to bog down. I also turn off traction control. Don’t have a problem on the main roads, but when I get home and my gravel driveway isn’t plowed, I spin a lot, so “1st” and traction control off help a lot.
Looks like a good car. Glad they’ve gave it some more horsepower but a massive bummer you can’t get a manual. Not exciting but it does what it’s made to do.
Introducing the 2021 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport XV Crosstrek, Casa Blanca edition costs extra.
I didn't even know you could get a manual 😃
It's not a manual per se, my wife got the Crosstrek and it was what could be best described as a manual mode with the paddle shifters. What's nice about it and one of reasons we got it, where we live ours will be on back country roads more than the highway so the 2.0 isn't a big deal, but the ability to shift into lower gears when we get snowstorms here and in bad weather is. If you shift into the manual mode and then turn off the traction control, you're essentially getting a 4 wheel drive low, which is great for snow and if you have to go off roading.
love this so far - need a video on how to work all the gadgets
I actually like the rugged Subie looks and the power bump is a welcome improvement, but unless you're constantly driving through unpaved roads, it's hard to justify going against the CX-30 in this class.
CX-30 is smaller. The back seats are cramped and can't be properly folded down. The AWD works only at a low speed. The ride is not as good as with the Crosstrek.
@@mrayva00 Sure the Mazda isn't perfect, but the refinement/build quality, and handling just feel a class above everything else in this segment. If I needed rear space on a daily basis, I wouldn't be shopping in this size class, personally, but to each their own.
Cx30 is not true four-wheel independent suspension. The back is torsion beam. The infotainment is awful (Android Auto and CarPlay are designed for touch screen), the visibility is dreadful, the backseat is tiny, and has an archaic 6 speed auto transmission. People can complain all they want about the CVT, but until they drive one of these, they are just talking out of their ass. I test drove a CX 30 and Crosstrek Limited in the same day. The Subaru felt more responsive. CVT is always in the exact proper ratio for the speed it's going, rather than hunting for the proper gear (out of a measly 6). Oh, And that's not forget resale value is so much better with the Subaru. There's a reason why you can go to a dealer and get a CX30 on the spot, as opposed to having to wait for a Subaru. So there's a lot of reasons why somebody would get a Crosstrek over a CX30.
Sayang disini subaru masih belum kembali, mas Sofyan Bey. Jadi untuk sementara saya masih stuck dengan model 2014 yg lalu.
I like it. It's a station wagon to me, not an suv.
They really should make a "Crosstrek WRX (or STI)" and give this thing that turbo motor and a performance offroad suspension (think almost like a baby SUV raptor) and price it around 35-38K. They would all sell out and it would bring excitement to the brand.
People are already complaining about the $31k price but at $35-38k it’ll sell out? Huh?
"You're not giving up much here to get the bigger engine, so it's kind of a no brainer."
Umm, you're giving up the manual transmission.
its a shitbox family car anyway what u need manual for
So, yeah, you're not giving up much.
From what I've heard, the manual transmission in the Crosstrek is not very good. I believe that Car And Driver magazine said that they preferred the CVT over the manual, which is saying a lot.
@@BlueWolf0224 odd. I have heard the exact opposite. The manual 6 is a hella good transmission. The CVTs are trash. Only Toyotas CVT's are any good.
@@---ul4in junk
Subaru’s forces you to buy the sport or limited in order to get more power. So if you don’t want either of those models you screwed. Thanks Subaru
they should have .... instead made a supercharger kit for the 2.0, and generate MORE revenue, and have a back port to previous gen. From that 2.0 boxer FB20, and put up a slight 25hp-40hp, while giving a 30-40Nm torque as well...without compromising much on fuel consumption and engine wear/tear.
Actually, it was more than 9 years ago that Subaru lifted and clad the Impreza. It was 1992 when they introduced the Outback Sport. The Crosstrek is simply a rebranding of the product that was far from an experiment.
I had a 2005 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport fully loaded and loved it till some bitch blew a red light and t-boned me at full speed. She hit me right before the front tire. The car protected me very well but sadly after that, she was no more. This was before the changeover to EL headers from UEL headers so it even had a little bit of that boxer rumble that went away with the change to EL headers.
I still see an Outback Sport on the road every so often. That is a surprisingly timeless car.
@@stuntmonkey00 Yes I see them around here as well, always well cared for. I wish I still had it, was well built, no rattles, no issues.
7:00 I like the sound that Subaru makes on starting up; I've never owned a Subaru, and wish I had a 3 car garage; I would get one. I like the gauge display also. ....Who is in the passenger seat? ...at 0.09 it looks off to the left that there are some chairs piled up ???......Why are you in Middleburg Virginia and not near your home where most of your reviews take place......
Nice my mom has i think a 2014 its a hybrid has a battery and motor
I have the standard 2021 two liter - I find no lack of power at all.
I thought if you wave your hand over the rear subaru badge, it opens the hatch???
30Km limit, 60 limit, and somewhere 80..... how fast I can drive? TBH, 2.5 is super enough for me . and I trust the AWD system and eyesight,
I have the 2020, they say they have USB ports in the rear but I couldn’t find them. I think the ones in the armrest compartment qualifies as the two rear USB ports.
Upset I lost out on the 30 extra horsepower though!
I checked out the new Crosstreks at the dealer yesterday while getting my Impreza's oil change. It looks like the bigger engine is about a $4 - 5k upgrade over the 2.0.
My biggest issue with the new Crosstrek is to get the 2.5L engine you end up spending more than the base Forester, which is a more functional vehicle in every way. Yes you get some "premium" features on the 2.5L trim but those are wasted on me.
Hardly anyone buys base vehicles, It's been that way for decades.
I've always loved the design and paint colors of the Crosstrek. The biggest complaint I've heard with these all of these new Subarus is automatic engine start/stop systems. The complaints are that restarts are harsh and laggy. Lots of complaints on the owner forums. You never seem to review these auto start/stop systems even though there is a lot of variation between manufacturers. Does the Crosstrek have a physical disable button for the start/stop system? Has it been improved at all?
It has a physical button if you don't want it. I personally found the newer auto start stop improved. Less jerky when u lift off the brake
You just push a button and it's off - you *do* have to push it every time you start the car but, it's certainly no big deal.