Stowa or Laco? Choosing a classic Flieger watch
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- Although I love my Sinn 104 watch I really wanted a classic Flieger from one of the original 5 makers in the 1940s. In this episode, I review my options and the criteria I used to select which watch I would buy. I then review the watch I purchased
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The Laco has more accurate size, finish, crown, lugs (very important in separating these post war copies) thickness. The Stowa may have built them during the war but only the Laco caries the design nearly unchanged. The Laco is an absolutely cool example of the true "classic" Flieger.
That point has been made. Yes, they are more accurate to the WW2 Fliegers. Personally, I made a tradeoff of style for accuracty.
Laco is a much better watch. The Stowa is prettier but there are many pretty watches around, too much, a sterile watch as close to the historic piece as possible is more valuable to me for such pieces.
@@antonc108 You can get a sterile Stowa, like the guy in the video did, so I don't see why you're mentioning that. Wanting a true to original style flieger is definitely a thing Laco provides, but Stowa is a historic maker, they evolved the watch.
I mean, that's cool, the authenticity is there, however they charge more for lesser movement offering and just more in general. Stowa's are slightly different from the OG designs, almost like they've evolved them slightly to make them more aesthetically pleasing. It's a higher quality watch in that sense.
Laco is the only true flieger in town.End of discussion.
Exactly the type of video I was looking for. This is the information I needed. Thank you for uploading your knowledge.
JuggusNawt well thank you for viewing and the nice comment. Note, I believe that Stowa and Laco have introduced some new options. I haven’t yet looked at those.
@@adventureswithtime I'm looking for a flieger watch myself and your video was super helpful. I use charts myself when assessing which watch to buy lol.
Flieger watches in their heyday were basically flight instruments, so they had to be large and visible. Today we mount them on naked wrists so I don't think we need them to be too large, only to fit and wear well. I would also go with the Stowa as it's not as thick as the Laco (IWC while the sentimental option is ridiculously overpriced for what you get and will never be an option for me).
True gentleman’s review. Subscribed
One of the best and technical watch videos I´ve ever seen. Congrats!
Wow. Thank you so much. If you haven't already, please subscribe and tell all of your watch enthusiast friends about my channel. Happy collecting.
Loved it! Calm, professional and passionate! Not an easy to accomplish equilibrium for a watch reviewer and watch lover! Keep up the good work!
LuanO7 thank you for those kind words
I also love his style of delivery, love of craftsmanship time and taste.
Wonderfully informative video. You're a very easy man to listen to. Keep up the good work!
Brian Wilson thank you but my wife would differ :). Thanks for subscribing
Lovely review Bob. Thank you. As soon as I have paid for my new Sinn 104, which I just love, this will be my next purchase. I already had this on my short list, but one watch at a time. Am looking forward to your other reviews.
Thanks for watching. I also love my Sinn 104.
Thanks Bob, great show!
I love my 42mm Laco Aachen b-uhr Gen 1.
It was a tough decision between Laco and Stowa. Both great watches.
I love this channel. I like the style too. Thank you Bob
santrade10 thank you for the kind words. Looking forward to adding more episodes in 2019 as well
Nice, thanks! I was looking for this exact review.
Ted Davis glad it helped.
Great review. Much better than some others... thank you.
TheViolentTeddy thank you for your kind words
Thanks for a very informative and well presented video review. I have been considering a Laco (but in a smaller dial) but now, after noting your presentation, I'll have to look at the Stowa too.
David O'Brien glad you found it helpful. Good luck. I’m sure whatever you decide you will enjoy it. Thanks for watching
That is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for the great video!
Glad I could be of help.
Great video and very helpful as I recently concluded the same comparison. I opted for the Laco Paderborn B dial mostly because I preferred the case finish and I'm enjoying it immensely. That said, it was a very difficult decision but in truth I would have also been thrilled to have the Stowa. Who knows, perhaps some day a Stowa A dial would be a perfect compliment to my Laco B dial.
LoL. Then you can do the ole A/B testing.
Nice to know the information between these watches and of course what swayed your decision for you at each point. I think after watching this video i think ill go with the laco as i just prefer the way the lugs connect the case with the strap gives it a more rounded shape watch. Thats just my preference and again fantastic video and hope you enjoy every time you look at it.
Mus Mustafa I’m sure you will enjoy your new acquisition. Thanks for watching and your comments. Let us know how you like the Laco
Good show Bob. I enjoyed your presentation so much I just bought a Stowa type B. Keep up the good work.
evolvedape thank you for those kind words and thanks for watching.
Really good comparaison ! Thanks
Thanks. I love these comparisons myself. They are also interesting and I tend to find out things I didn't realize before.
Sorry for the delayed response. I need to get into the practice of responding to viewers in a more timely manner. Viewers deserve that from me. Thank you
Professional review, thank you mate, Laco and stowa both have their place but the stowa shows in video looks so beautiful.
And it's beautiful in person. Thanks for the kind words.
Nice review Bob. I’m leaning toward a b dial Stowa as well but the manual wind.
Sorry for not responding when you made this comment. I just now trying to clean up my very old comments.
This is the best video about German pilot watch, thanks a lot for your comparison, I would go with the same Stowa like your.
Thank you. I might do a refreshed version now that it's been some time. It will take some digging to see what's new across these watches.
I looked through all available Fliegers and chose the Stowa for the same reasons you did: authenticity, history, and price. Good choice and great looking watch.
It is a fun watch to wear
A very watchable review, thanks. I really like the Stowa brand and must get myself a Flieger!
Nigel Doe thank you for the kind words. And yes, Stowa is a good brand. I do recommend them. Keep on watching and subscribe if you haven’t done so already.
Good review! I love the B model from Stowa
Watches & BBQ agreed. I get lots of compliments on this watch.
Great vid mate. Very informative
Thank you for watching and hopefully you've subscribed 😉. And keep providing me feedback. It's through these exchanges that I learn more about the hobby and what people like/dislike about my channel so I can improve my content.
Thanks for the excellent, very helpful review! You did a lot of the work for me. Looks like when the time comes, I’ll probably buy the Laco Paderborn because I like the authenticity and the look of the sand blasted case.
Edit April 30, 2019 - I still haven’t bought this watch, but I’m getting ready to. I think my mind has changed since I posted the above and now I’m looking at the Stowa, the same one you picked for similar reasons.
Sorry for not responding when you made this comment. I just now trying to clean up my very old comments.
@@adventureswithtime no problem. I actually ended up buying an Archimede 42B a few years ago as I thought it was a better value than Laco or Stowa. I sold it recently, part of selling half of my collection, getting rid of the ones I liked but didn’t love.
By far the BEST video when picking out an authentic flieger watch.
Peter S wow. Thanks for the compliment. What type of watches do you collect?
it's objectively not though
Great breakdown i prefer the tan strap beautiful watch indeed
Great video. Congratulations on your new watch!
Thank you. I don't know if you saw my other video where I talked about selling my Stowa. Just needed to thin the herd.
Very nice video! Thank you for the interesting information.
karifoo and thank you for watching.
Very enjoyable review Bob, I’ve subscribed.
Thank you for the feedback. I’m trying to get better at this and find some good content
Hi, Bob. I like your approach on selecting the Stowa, which I might add looks great. I’m new into watches and am considering a flieger for my collection later this year. This video will come in handy. Thank you.
Eye Heart Sushi glad you found it helpful. Thanks for watching and good luck with your collection
Adventures With Time Thanks. I’m gonna check out some of your other videos.
Hey I dont often comment on TH-cam but i had to for this video I can tell you are really into this hobby and are passionate about it really good work this is the first video I watched from you and i already subscribed great work on thism
Thank you for the very nice comments. And thank you for subscribing. I hope to continue to serve the community well.
Bob, I am from the Netherlands and new to your channel. Great video! I completely agree with your choice for the Stowa flieger uhr. German watches are rising stars worldwide, I think. See you in the next one!
Thank you for watching and hopefully you've subscribed 😉. And keep providing me feedback. It's through these exchanges that I learn more about the hobby and what people like/dislike about my channel so I can improve my content.
I appreciate the charts you do. Great choice on your Stowa.
Thank you. I'm thinking of an updated version of this analysis.
Hi Bob, a very well and thought through video, I actually came to the same conclusions but went for the A dial.
But, over a longer period of time I let it go, i think I should have gone for a B type dial.
Thinking about getting again a Flieger, I wished Stowa would offer additional these watches in a bigger case.
I do leave a like and subscribed, greetings from Germany, Konstantin
Thank you for your comment. Stowa does offer bigger cases, but at a higher price and slightly different case design.
Adventures With Time, yes, I know these but don’t like these proportions, that’s better with Laco 👍🏻
Thank you, Sir.
CVCCSS thank you
Nice review. The camel strap looks great!
Jeffery Neu I agree. In fact I have yet to wear it with the black strap. But I will in time. Thanks for watching.
Great video! Think I'll go with Stowa as well
What’s your reasons? Just curious.
A really thorough and informative video - and enjoyable
Thank you
And I think the Stowa is the right choice
Thank you. I’d appreciate it you tell your friends to watch.
For me, I wanted a Flieger that most-closely resembled the originals, so a couple years ago, I selected the Laco (formerly Lacher & Co.) Friedrichshafen Bronze 45mm watch, complete with the split/riveted wristband. It’s not the same diameter as the originals, but it’s still a handsome watch, and the bronze case develops a unique patina of its own. I love mine.
Last month, I bought a limited-edition Laco Aachen Oliv 42mm watch (mine is #63 of 250). It included a standard wristband, but Laco also tossed in a smaller version of the the split/riveted wristband that mimics the Friedrichshafen Bronze’s wristband. I didn’t hesitate to install it. It looks terrific. I wish that I could share photos.
My Oliv 42mm watch is more wearable for daily use.
You sound like a person who knows what they want and goes after it. That is great.
That was a good review and breakdown of both models. The Stowa is nice, but I still prefer the Laco. I do have a vintage, 55mm Laco, and their 42/45 mm are just a scaled down version of the originals. I like the flat lugs as it was the same on the originals. But both are excellent watches and enjoy wearing it!
Wow. can you wear a 55mm watch without it looking strange. I imagine wearing it outside of a flight suit it looks good. But on a bare wrist must look strange. But a great watch to have in one's collection. Can I ask where you purchased it?
Awesome video. Thanks man
And thank you for the nice words and taking the time to view and comment on my video.
Good video and nice watch. I too was torn between Laco and Stowa. I went with the Laco Speyer and I love it. It is 39mm. Better for my small wrist.
Great to hear you picked up this watch. Enjoy
Beautiful watch and video I'm waiting for a laco hand wound replica 45 . Your stowa looks nice with the tan strap
Sorry for not responding when you made this comment. I just now trying to clean up my very old comments.
Good information. Subscribed !
Thanks for watching. Hope you enjoy my other videos.
What an awesome video. Congrats!
António Maia thank you
Excellent video! Wish I had seen it earlier. I'm waiting on delivery of the Paderborn which I chose over the Stowa because the display back pushed the Stowa a bit too far from the original models.
Aside from that we are in complete agreement. Thanks for posting this. You've earned a new subscriber👍.
I'm sure you will be happy with the Paderborn. Both are great watches. Thanks for subscribing.
Agree. Moreover, automatic, as date or power reserve, is not very Flieger.
Fantastic Review of the varieties of our „Beobachtungsuhren“. Greetings from Germany.
Thank you. Do you collect watches?
Not really, but maybe I buy a Flieger from Laco or Stowa.
Thanks for sharing.
Sorry for not responding when you made this comment. I just now trying to clean up my very old comments.
great video 100% agree with you
Thanks for watching.
great video and review! I love flieger watches as well and Stowa makes wonderful pieces; as I already have a flieger in my small collection, I'm thinking of getting a bauhaus style watch from Stowa, the Antea 1919
Tony Lugosi I do like the Bauhaus look. Very stylish
If you're looking for the "Bauhaus" look - you should consider NOMOS (German maker) with in-house movements and excellent value for money !
An other Bauhaus inspired watch is the Junghans watch designed by Max Bill who studied and taught at the Bauhaus.
As a mech. ing. student the sheet part got me giggling. Nice and clean overview, do simiarly looking at watches, just in notes on my phone.
Went with a oliv Aachen 39mm for my thinner wrists. Became my daily watch right away and I absolutely love it.
I am planning on getting a Type A flieger as well.
I do enjoy the Stowa's look, but with my 10+ years long obsession with everything that is WWII aviation, I want the one with the more authentic look, and I am high on the OCD scale. So think I will have to spec. up a Laco Stuttgart (pro), so I can spec it with all my needs to my specification. Thanks for the overview.
I agree the Laco has the more authentic look. But I made some compromises with the Stowa.
Literally in the same boat. But I feel as though I am going to end up with the Laco. But that Stowa really is a beautiful watch, hope you are enjoying it.
Buy the watch that you like the best and enjoy it.
Great watch, congrats. I own one myself.
Sorry for not responding when you made this comment. I just now trying to clean up my very old comments.
Black strap!! Thanks good info I got the Laco due to having a dealer close to me..
Laco is a very fine watch. Congrats
Thanks for the video, good choice, flat lugs are a no go for me. Subscribed.
Sorry for not responding when you made this comment. I just now trying to clean up my very old comments.
Great review.
Thank you for watching. I'm glad you found it helpful.
Good video. Your watch, the Flieger B was essentially a navigator's watch.
Riffswatch yes, that is what I read. Thanks for watching. Please consider subscribing if you haven’t yet done so.
Thank you sir
You are very welcome. Enjoy
I've wanted a Flieger since finding out about them here on YT. I finally got a 42 mm Laco Aachen about a month ago, used, but indistinguishable from new with all the original packaging. I wanted a mechanical watch in a Military style and history, and these are perfect. Now I would like to get a more upscale model like the Paderborn, with a higher end movement, but for now the deal on this was too good to pass up.
Sounds like you know what you like and go for it. Congratulations
Finally got my first flieger, a Laco. Fits very well on my wrist, thank you for the heads up. BTW, it's an Augsburg.
Great. Enjoy it.
Great 👍 VLOG Bob, I have several vintage Pilot watches in my collection, and have purchased new Laco & Stowa Watches, in my opinion the Stowa Watch beats Laco hands down in terms of quality & finish.
I've heard passionate arguments on both sides of the Stowa / Laco debate. I think they are both good brands and it's up to the buyer to decide what suits them best. Thanks for sharing. I love hearing from other collectors; what they do and why. I am learning so much doing this. And having fun.
Adventures With Time that’s what being part of the watch community is all about Bob.
Thank you very much. Your video here is very educational, informative and helpful. I would go with their Bauhause white face watch Antea Klassik 390.. But their website isn't telling if it has sapphire crystal and anti reflection. Still much cheaper in price then the Nomos of approximately same style kinda.
Sorry for not responding when you made this comment. I just now trying to clean up my very old comments.
@@adventureswithtime Thanks.
Excellent video, i think the camel colored strap will weather and get a great patina, but the black will look great from day one, hard choice.
Thanks. I've since sold the watch as I've had to make room for others. I have a feeling that one day I'll be buying it back again.
Great Watch, the black strip suits your skin tone
Cool
You have helped me make my decision. Will be a B type.
I'm sure you will enjoy your new watch.
Great review and buying guide. I would also be leaning towards the Stowa, but I would totally go with the manual wound version so I can really enjoy that onion crown every day. Now both companies are using Selita movements as since your video, ETA has been harder for them to source as it is now owned by the Swatch Group (correct me if I’m wrong).
Yes, I heard the ETA will only sell to other Swatch companies. Not sure if that is true.
Tan looks Great!
That's what I used
@@adventureswithtime It is amazing how well tan goes with black and is a nice contrast with white. Black on black seems like it should be a winner,but,not quite. The Hamilton military with the black face has tan hands to simulate the aging effect. It looks better than white. The subtle contrast looks great. The German watch you picked out is a real gem with the onion crown. German aviation was remarkable as well. The history of the triangle is really neat. With iPhones , electronic car clocks and tablets the battery driven watch can be omitted. The mechanical hand wound watch is better now because the cell phone and tablet are readably available to keep accuracy. Complications are taken care of by the smartphone with a built in calendar that is synced to other devices. Winding a watch every morning keeps a unique connection between man and machine. The mechanical precision is remarkable. Sapphire lenses are unsurpassed. Love wearing shades of history on the wrist. More fun than a Rolex. It is cool to enjoy without being a show off. Like a sense of inner peace connecting with people and mechanical precision of the past. An uncluttered easy to read subtle piece of jewelry.
I like tan and brown
Nice video, both are beautiful watches, I would personally opt for Laco, for the case finish and crown shape.
Lots of people prefer the Laco finish.
I like both straps. You seem very nice.
Thank you very much
A++. Congrats to that very beautiful watch. Like you pronounced first Wempe was correct. They have a long naval tradition. Greetings from Germany
My pronunciation of many watch companies is off. I try to get them correct.
Nice video Bob. Black strap looks amazing and more original than camel one.
Farukh Hassan I actually haven’t worn the black strap yet. But next time I’m going to switch to it. Thanks for watching.
Nice no-nonsense overview, decision process logical and empirical, would go for the same watch. Not to keen on the metal joints in the straps.
Thanks for the input. I know what you mean about those rivets in the strap (I think that is to what you are referring). But I take it as part of the tool aspect/feel of the watch. Certain there are lots of other straps I can use for this watch; maybe a nato.
Great video
Thanks for watching. I hope you enjoy some of my other videos.
Great video! Both Laco and Stowa make excellent flieger watches and both have a lot of heritage. I have a Stowa A dial and a Laco B dial and love both. I think the Laco is a more authentic looking replica (although it is much smaller) but the Stowa is very marginally more nicely finished. However both look superb, both are very high quality watches and both are good value as high quality watches go. Both of mine are hand wound as i think fliegers are best with a hand wind movement and a sterile dial is best. That said, for those on a budget the Laco basic flieger range are very good. You lose the sterile dial and some might not want a Miyota movement but for the price they're excellent if you don't want to spend the money on one of their fliger original models.
I really did like the Stowa. And agree that the Laco is more historically accurate. I just liked the finish on the Stowa more.
Laco is now doing a brushed version of their PRO series too.
This is my plan. Laco B dial. Just ordered my first Stowa Classic Flieger today and I could not be more excited
beautiful watch,enjoy it
Thank you. Do you have either a Laco or Stowa
@@adventureswithtime not yet,i am working on it ;)
Awesome video. I just baught the Stowa flieger classic bronze!
Congrats on the new watch.
@@adventureswithtime thanks buddy! Your videos convinced me. Hehe
@@vegardvang519 Don't get me wrong. I still believe the Stowa is a great watch. I just couldn't keep all of my watches since I retired. You will definitely enjoy this watch.
@@adventureswithtime did you sell it?
@@vegardvang519 yes it did
Thank you for the comprehensive review, Bob. Congratulations on your gorgeous Stowa - I prefer the camel-coloured strap, by the way. These are both excellent watches and, while I refer the looks of the Stowa, I will be purchasing the Paderborn. I recently purchased a cheaper version (42mm Laco Aachen Type B) and I adore it! I am just a sucker for originality. Thanks again for the review.
Eddie de Beer I understand you desire for originality. Have fun with your new watch and thanks for subscribing.
If you are sucker for originality why did you buy it with the worst (Miyota)movement . It is like Ferrari would put a Dodge Neon engine in one of their model. Laco has no self respect. What is original about the cheapest japanese ($30) non hacking movement in a German flieger ?
Nice review, nice watch. I have something similar by Aristo.
There are a lot of brands that make watches in the original flieger style
Excellent review. I appreciate your explanation on how you narrowed your choices to the 2 brands. I've been looking at Stowa as well for a classic Flieger. Question: Did you consider the 43mm? My wrist size is similar at 7.25".
If you mean the sport version which I think is 43mm, yes I did consider it. But it seems to have a slightly different bezel. So I stayed with this one. Good luck. Happy collecting
Nice job. Subscribed.
Thanks for subscribing awhile back. Hope I'm providing some good content. It's tough to keep up with a video about every week since I don't have a limitless supply of new watches.
Sorry for the delayed response. I need to get into the practice of responding to viewers in a more timely manner. Viewers deserve that from me. Thank you
I like the camel strap a lot more. I think you made the right choice. The Laco is great but perhaps rather too true to the original. I also am not too keen on the sand blasted finish. I was, earlier this year, considering a Stowa, however WatchGecko released a Fliegler copy in both Type A and Type B. It has an ETA movement and is a lot cheaper than either of the German brands. Also it has a bit more practicality being water resistant down to 10ATM. Having seen your review, I am now slightly doubting my purchase. It is always great to have an original brand. However I content myself by reasoning that the watch could be made by anyone. The Luftwaffe wanted the design and found five companies to make it.
Dave thank you for your thoughts. It is exchanges of ideas/thoughts like this which I enjoy.
@@adventureswithtime You're welcome. Great review by the way. My thought process was similar, if not as structured, in arriving at Stowa. That is until WatchGecko threw the curve ball
Nice video.
I got the Flieger classic 40 Type A about a year ago. No logo and no date.
Tried a variety of straps but in the end I went back to the Stowa tan strap.
My only concession to practicality was the addition of a Stova clasp (deployant) to their strap. Reduces wear on the strap when putting it on and taking it off.
Works very well.
Good idea. I might try that. Where did you get it?
@@adventureswithtime Directly from Stowa.
Hi, If you check the prices on the official website of both manufacturers you can see the Stowa is more expensive, not much (70 EUR), but expensive. Stowa is 1050 EUR, Laco 980 EUR. But good comparison.
I've had a lot of comments on both side of the Stowa / Laco discussion. I think either are great watches and its up to the buyer to determine which they like best.
Sorry for the delayed response. I need to get into the practice of responding to viewers in a more timely manner. Viewers deserve that from me. Thank you
Great video. I am not sure why you didn't op for the hand wound 2804-2 which would have been more period correct than an automatic.
Sherry Carpenter I did make some compromises. One was to get an automatic; as I don’t think it alters the aesthetics. Thanks for watch and please consider subscribing as continue commenting. I just love all the input I get.
Right yesterday I went in Engelsbrand in Pforzheim. I didn't know that Stowa is located there. I was right driving through the snowy street when I saw the Stowa factory.
Were they offering any tours. I would love to take a watch factory tour one of these days.
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I don't know. It was Sunday. So they where close.
I have two Lacos, love them. Stowa are no slouches either.
Both are good. Just depends upon the aesthetics you’re after
I think the tan looks best for now.
I agree with Rosemarie and think that tan is a good choice ! The original strap would have been in tan (wartime choice) and will develop with time - an interesting patina !
Sorry for not responding when you made this comment. I just now trying to clean up my very old comments.
I understand the dilemma on the straps; I prefer the camel, but the black actually matches the look of the watch better.
Jeremy Harris I have yet to try the black but next time on the wrist
Nice overview of where the watches originated from. Most purists go with the manual 45mm Laco Dortmund. The 40mm Stowa is just a bit more refined and wearable for most. I’ve been contemplating the same choices for the last three years and still haven’t made up my mind. Do I go hardcore spartan Luftwaffe design or a bit more luxurious.? The lug design of the Laco is closer to the original but doesn’t look as nice or fits as comfortable as the Stowa’s. It’s also 2mm narrower. Bit narrow for that size watch. Choices, choices. I might just get the 55mm B muster Laco replica for my display cabinet with pilot watches and diecast aircraft. Will make for a nice conversation piece, next to my 1/48th scale Ju87, and the 40mm B muster Stowa to actually wear. My wife’s going to have a fit when she sees the 55mm.
bigc208 cool idea for the 55mm. Yes I did make some trade offs between historical more accurate vs styling.
It was a fair comparison. I believe the Laco is closer to the original design but I also prefer the Stowa.
Ditto here.
Hi. I am also interested in the Stowa flieger type B.
I really liked the type B dial.
Not surprised the Sinn 104 didn't scratch the itch for a Flieger. However, it does make for a handsome desk diver.
Picked up my Flieger a couple of weeks ago and am surprised with how much I enjoy what I had previously derided as Nazi memorabilia. It's these types of self discoveries that are such a bonus to this hobby.
We have been collecting for about the same length of time, so your topics overlap well with my state of the collection.
the beamer I like your term desk diver. I assume that refers to a diver watch that is worn by someone who doesn’t dive. Love it
Good video, 👍👍
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
I think the original camel strap looks more interesting since the watch already has a black dial so the strap adds some spice. Or maybe it's just my personal thing for that leather colour spectrum. Anyway late congratulations on acqusition of a historical classic. Hopefully I'll get them too in the future
I was always told not to mix brown shoes with a black suit. But that doesn’t apply to watches
Either strap is nice.
Josh Charlat oddly I have yet to wear it with the black strap yet. Probably when it’s next up in the rotation. Thanks for watching.
Great choice, but I got to say that with massive wrist like that I feel like you had the opportunity to really go all out with the style of this watch and go for maybe 46 mm or something. I am over here with 6 1/4 lol
46mm 😱I don't know if I'd feel comfortable with a watch that large.
I have the Stowa Flieger Baumuster A 36 mm & the Laco Speyer Baumuster B 39✈️ mm with my Name at the Backcase 😜✌️.
Both watches are great .
Double flieger. Cool.
you remind me of De Niro :) on the video - laco is better as a tool watch, stowa is dressier. If I were you - with a 7 7/8 inch wrist I would have jumped on the larger laco. However, the stowa is fantastic, I'm looking forward to buying y own type A :) All the best!
Yordan Krekmanski Robert DeNiro?
I like both straps. I'd pick the one that went with my belt and shoes for the day.
I wore the brown most of the time