Love my Stowa Flieger Klassic 40mm .... gotta use the K. Although IWC is a great brand, I think both Stowa and Laco offer just about the same quality for more affordable prices and the heritage is certainly there. Good review!
@@suigong3841 Yeah, I bought a Laco and returned it because the Miyota 8000 series was jumping around and starting/stopping randomly. I wouldn't buy another watch with that movement in it. Build quality felt good otherwise, though.
@@MarkFenimore is it recent that Laco offers Sellita movements? Because that’s an option too over the miyota. Still for a fraction of the price of an IWC.
@erik2757 I'm not sure when they started but I've seen ETAs (and maybe Selittas, too) offered in their more expensive models. I'd say it's worth the upgrade but then you're in a price comparison with Stowa, Archimedes, Damasko, et. al. and those brands tend to offer more technology, movement options and unique designs in my opinion.
Isn't it considered a field watch? I know there's a thin line, but case size and design, crown shape, and provided nylon strap are typical for field watches.
Ivans Samoilenko confused about that as well. Maybe its safe to say that the dial has flieger aesthetics with a field watch case. Fliegers make great field watches because of the large numerals.
@@ivanssamoilenko1517 Dial is definitely type-B but the size is more field watch. A bit of a hybrid of the two. Lack of hacking fits neither a field or flieger watch.
No, mine is the best value and bested your except if you’re jus5 wanted a name brand printed on the dial……The 2021 new Steeldive type B SD1940…..200m water resistance, screw down crown, sapphire crystal, solid endlink, as bright lume as the San Martin, solid oyster style bracelet……for $95. Seiko NH35a, 39mm case and 20mm lugs width…..winner to me, just bought 2.
A lug to lug measurement would be nice when you do reviews. I think that lug to lug is more important than diameter. A small wrist can wear a 40 to 45 mm in diameter as long as the lug to lug is under 52 mm.
Have two Stowa’s, the first one is about 8 years old, 36mm COSC certified, no Stowa logo no date. I probably should have saved the money and just bought the regular non COSC. When I bought it, the dollar was weaker so adding the COSC certification and an extra band cost me like $1200.00 with shipping. The second Stowa I bought, cost me less, it is a white flieger with Stowa branding and date in automatic 40mm. If I buy another, I’d get a type B Classic Sport in 43mm with hand wound, or the Classic 40 type B with hand wound. But doubtful I’d get a third. I like both my Stowe’s both the black and white. I do prefer them without branding but it’s not a deal breaker. Just some advice, if you order a Stowa, buy a few extra brands at the same time (sorry Teddy don’t mean offense about your strap business) so you can keep it as original as possible.
Great video. My favorite is the Laco with the vintage look. Until yesterday when I First watch this video, I had never heard a Flieger watch. This morning I looked at a watch I’ve had for almost twenty years. Just recently I started wearing the watch almost daily. It’s a Croton with a Japanese automatic movement and it came with four different watch bands; blue, black, olive and khaki, making it very versatile. When I looked at the face this morning, I realized that it was a type B! I wish there was someway I could post a picture of it here. Without your video I would’ve never known just how cool this watch really is. Thank you so much keep up the good work.
Hi, you can upgrade your laco very much: it starts with the "Basis" Miyota 821 (Aachen Blaue Stunde 42mm is without competitors imho!), the "Original" series uses the eta 2824/2 elaboré that can be upgraded to "top" for little money. Each model comes as "Typ A" or "Typ B" in 39 or 42mm. All watches can be ordered as handwinded or automatic. The "Erbstück" gives you the opportunity to buy a brand new watch fliegertype looking like the heritage from your grandpa. Perfect variety and the "Basis" is the perfect entry to perfectly crafted watches, worth every very little Cent! And 42mm is perfect for larger wrists whereas 39mm is better for smaller wrists than a 40mm imho. But just my 2cents. Love my 42mm Aachen Blaue Stunde!
Very educational! Your passion really shines through and makes viewing a pleasure. Not sure this style is for me, I tend to like the more colourful and sporty watches like divers and racing chronographs. But it's definitely something I can appreciate.
Aachen Blaue Stunde in 42mm is worth every Cent. Hacking is included, laco listened to the market, because a fliegertype as being an instrument of an aircraft, that was synchronised manually by a radio signal must be hackable. So they changed it to be authentical even with the "cheap" series... Its lume is gorgeus and lasts fully charged the whole night. I LOVE it and wear it every day.
In September 1929 Lady Grace Drummond-Hay completed the first circumnavigation on a Zeppelin LZ127 wearing the first automatic wristwatch - the Fortis Harwood. Looking through Fortis‘ archives, it has a rich history in equipping civil and military pilots even to this day. Not mentioning them at all withholds from the viewer an amazing and very underrated watch brand
Only Laco's range offers the most historically correct productions. One look at the Stowa's case lugs (other brands as well) and I can tell its off. Most are 'flieger dials' in thick 'diver cases', some even have ridiculously thick bezels, whereas true observer/bomber watches are all dial and as little bezel edge as possible, and flat sharp lugs. No date, no day, no unnecessary words. Unfortunately Laco is a brand with an overly confusing product range and obscured name. If only they would stick their fliegers to just two range; one premium historic and one premium modern, and do away with all the affordables... they are wasting their heritage's advantage.
I think you've missed off one of the best priced new fliegers you can get at the moment - Tisell 40mm. I did a fair bit of research when I was looking to get an entry level flieger. For
Loved the way you relieved the original five manufacturers, then the other makers today. Great structure if you’re looking for an authentic fleiger. Great channel!
@@leisekreise Surprisingly, the stores I went to in Berlin had mostly fashion watches, and some Hamiltons - I did however find a store that had some Lacos - TBH they had very nice ... how to put it... fake vintage watches, if you will - basically they had wear and tear but actually looked amazing. Was not what I was looking for, however. I did not see the range I wanted to - was considering going to the Damasko factory which was a day's train ride awaybut did not in the end. Have not bought one yet!
On the cusp of ordering the Stowa Fliega 40 manual wind. Just need to wait for the right moment soy wife doesn't kill me before buying another watch. A good homage watch I have as one of my daily beaters is the Swatch sistem 51 Arrow which is designed like a B-uhr
Flieger watches are so cool, especially laco with that historical case dimension. I wish they'd up their water resistance a little more (I know it is a flieger watch, not a dive watch, but man it could make it a one watch collection for me )
Been wanting to add a flieger type B to my collection yet it would likely be something like the Citizen first. Possibly not historic, but there's a Russian/German company that makes a mechanical alarm flieger type B that makes use of the existing inner hour circle for setting the alarm. I have the Strela Cosmos variant that I really like and it's a complication that's not too common nowadays, so I wouldn't mind having another look with it along with merging functionality.
Don't fuck around with your Flieger watches - if you want a reproduction watch that looks like a tool, buy a Laco with an ETA in it. If you want something with the iconic dials but a little more modern and shiny, buy a Stowa. If you're rich and historical accuracy is not a priority, IWC is for you. Every other budget brand riffing on the style really not worth bothering about. Also, avoid budget Laco - you wouldn't want to wish a Miyota 821A movement on your worst enemy.
I got a Stowa Flieger Classic 6498 Bronze Vintage last year, which I just love. The heat treated blued hands and finishing work they did on the Unitas movement is great.
A search for Stowa on Amazon directs you to Laco which is also a very nice piece. I want my ideal Flieger type B to be at least 46mm, sapphire crystal and not have a Miyota movement.
Great video as usual, thank you. I have a (made in the UK) Geckota K01 Pilot with the B type dial. 40mm with a 2824-2 movement. Very reasonably priced considering the movement and the blue dial with a blue Barton strap looks stunning. My one recommendation would be that if you're going for a Type B dial fleiger then go for at least a 42mm. The 40mm with the inner hour dial some people might find a little smaller than is comfortable.
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I love Fleigers but how do I reconcile that with the fact it was created to assist the Luftwafe in killing the Allies? Open to honest suggestions. Thanks in advance.
I read some reviews that they tested the Corgeut Pilot Watch and determined that it was indeed sapphire crystal. As for the movement, the one I bought from didnt specify any movement but other videos and reviews mention Miyota. I guess as long as it’s not openly advertised on the product page as Miyota, I can’t be 100% sure what mine is.
@@AliasEveWatches Yeah that's also what I found, looks pretty good for the money. Finishing of hands, dial and case is decent? Might put this one on my shortlist.
I was quite happy with it, but honestly I am a novice at these things so I dont trust my own opinions just yet. I did make an up close demo video of the corgeut to help people form their own opinion of the watch. :)
The 2021 new Steeldive type B and type A SD1940…..12.4mm think, 200m water resistance, screw down crown, sapphire crystal with both sided AR, solid endlink, Swiss C3 everything Lume up as bright as any Seiko, solid oyster style bracelet……for $80 Seiko NH35a, 39mm case and 20mm lugs width…..winner to me, just bought 2. None of these watches here give you any of those specs…..I could not care about what “name tag” on the dial…..oh, wait, right, the brand name are not even on their dials…..I rather paid $80 for all the awesome specs than being a stupid brand fanboy!
I knew Helmut Sinn and doubt he would have approved of the look of the 856 B-UH. As a WWII Luftwaffe pilot, he was a purist for the utility and simplicity of the "Flieger Uhren" of his day. I have several of his early designs reflecting his respect for readability for precise airborne maneuver timing for navigation, especially at night. Few know that he flew JU-88's, crashing and injured in Russia, and afterwards "Tante JU's. I was his house guest in Frankfurt once upon a time. In his home on display he had a propeller from a JU-88. If anyone knew "pilot" watches, it was Helmut Sinn.
Archimede from Ickler. Talk about history. Third generation family owned business manufacturing watch cases for almost 100 years. Customers like Christian Klings and RGM have used their cases for their own models. In-house flame blued hands as well. Not just assmeblers like Stowa and others. Want truly German Made, Archimede is the answer. (Archimede is not owned by Laco and have nothing to do with Laco whatsoever.)
Have a laco b dial giving to me by my dad. The strap is canvas with grommets. Not sure if it's original because I haven't seen another example. Had it cleaned by an older Korean watch maker. He was elated to see that the rubies were not synthetic. Don't know how he could know that. Doesn't make any sense to me Didn't speak English very well. Only can find modern copies of this watch. No idea of the value of this piece. It's huge!!
Stowa or Laco would be my choice, with a preference towards the Laco. Orient, Archimede and Citizen wouldn't even make it to the shortlist! In an ideal world where my bank balance is virtually limitless, my choice would a an original Second World War dated A. Lange & Söhne Flieger, with type B dial. Although I could currently in theory afford such a watch, it's WELL outside my SENSIBLE budget for a watch. It's a shame that the originals don't have the 'exhibition caseback' as it's such a shame for the beautiful workmanship of A. Lange & Söhne to be hidden, but originality and the history count for a lot.
You can buy a San Martin type B flieger with sapphire glass, NH35 movement, screw in crown, 200 meter water resistance, and great lume for $150 on Ali Express. It is 39 mm in diameter, 49 mm lug to lug, and takes 20 mm straps. Model SN030-G. I love mine.
I've been looking into a Laco Type B I enjoy the way these look. It will be my first watch. I am very interested in getting into watches now. I've worked on cars for almost my whole life and started watching Wristwatch Revival, now Teddy was in my recommended so I started watching. I will either goo with the Laco or a Hamilton Khaki for my first watch. I am saving up, these watches are pretty expensive, but figure might as well go all in at first. Kevin said in one of your vids to be agnostic to cost. Lol. Thank you
I was confused by what I was looking at. Almost all of those watches are basically like a Hamilton Khaki field watch, especially at 38-40mm. The cheapest Citizen example is the only one that seems to capture the spirit of the historical specification.
I like pilot watches. What you are showing us is basically very expensive homage watches. Nothing against homage watches. However, they should be cheaper. The Chinese have the homage watch market pretty much sewn up. If I want a homage watch I buy Chinese.
So I’m not a huge fan of homage brand but, between a Laco Augsburg 42 that has a Miyota mov. VS. a Steinhart nav-b-uhr 44mm with an ETA2824, which is a better watch?
I think it defeats the purpose of these watches to make the so small 40, 42, are too all for flight watches. They should be 44-45 minimum. Hate that they try make them trendy by making them smaller.
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70% of people don’t subscribe! Smh they’re missing out 😂 glad I’m part of the Subscriber gang, anyone else?
Did you forget about Bell & Ross? Are their watches considered Flieger watches?
I did and unsubscribed because of the bias on the watches that fit his skinny wrist and the dress watch bias
I’m looking at a Hanhart or a Sinn.
@@Imagination918 no, they are not Flieger watches, they are flight instruments inspired watches
stowa is way overpriced
Tybe B Laco is a winner!
Yes I have the laco Aachen with the blue type B dial. Brown leather strap. It’s perfection.
Love my Stowa Flieger Klassic 40mm .... gotta use the K. Although IWC is a great brand, I think both Stowa and Laco offer just about the same quality for more affordable prices and the heritage is certainly there. Good review!
Not the same. IWC is in different league
@@suigong3841 Yeah, I bought a Laco and returned it because the Miyota 8000 series was jumping around and starting/stopping randomly. I wouldn't buy another watch with that movement in it. Build quality felt good otherwise, though.
@@MarkFenimore is it recent that Laco offers Sellita movements? Because that’s an option too over the miyota. Still for a fraction of the price of an IWC.
@erik2757 I'm not sure when they started but I've seen ETAs (and maybe Selittas, too) offered in their more expensive models. I'd say it's worth the upgrade but then you're in a price comparison with Stowa, Archimedes, Damasko, et. al. and those brands tend to offer more technology, movement options and unique designs in my opinion.
The Laco B-ur was actually my first automatic and got me in to collecting. Great video Teddy!
Hi just to clarify, the Laco at 5:54 is not the Paderborn, that's the Munster. The Paderborn is the type B dial in 42mm
Damasko makes great flieger with specs much higher than its price would suggest.
Love Fliegers, I would throw the Seiko 5 SNK809 onto the list as an affordable option too, as well as being more suited for smaller wrists at 37mm.
Isn't it considered a field watch? I know there's a thin line, but case size and design, crown shape, and provided nylon strap are typical for field watches.
@@ivanssamoilenko1517 yeah, I definitely agree with you
Ivans Samoilenko confused about that as well. Maybe its safe to say that the dial has flieger aesthetics with a field watch case. Fliegers make great field watches because of the large numerals.
@@ivanssamoilenko1517 Dial is definitely type-B but the size is more field watch. A bit of a hybrid of the two. Lack of hacking fits neither a field or flieger watch.
Flieger from Stowa is definitely one of my grail watch
@Chinchzilla agree
the Stowa does pack a top grade movement, I own one. for under 1k it’s great value
Laco does also as an option
True dat, have a marine
No, mine is the best value and bested your except if you’re jus5 wanted a name brand printed on the dial……The 2021 new Steeldive type B SD1940…..200m water resistance, screw down crown, sapphire crystal, solid endlink, as bright lume as the San Martin, solid oyster style bracelet……for $95. Seiko NH35a, 39mm case and 20mm lugs width…..winner to me, just bought 2.
@@Jikaninja That piece of crap does not compare to Laco, Stowa or IWC, no offence.
A lug to lug measurement would be nice when you do reviews. I think that lug to lug is more important than diameter. A small wrist can wear a 40 to 45 mm in diameter as long as the lug to lug is under 52 mm.
Have two Stowa’s, the first one is about 8 years old, 36mm COSC certified, no Stowa logo no date. I probably should have saved the money and just bought the regular non COSC. When I bought it, the dollar was weaker so adding the COSC certification and an extra band cost me like $1200.00 with shipping. The second Stowa I bought, cost me less, it is a white flieger with Stowa branding and date in automatic 40mm. If I buy another, I’d get a type B Classic Sport in 43mm with hand wound, or the Classic 40 type B with hand wound. But doubtful I’d get a third. I like both my Stowe’s both the black and white. I do prefer them without branding but it’s not a deal breaker.
Just some advice, if you order a Stowa, buy a few extra brands at the same time (sorry Teddy don’t mean offense about your strap business) so you can keep it as original as possible.
German military in the 30’s and 40’s sure did look sharp. Other stuff they did...not as great.
Yeah, dark time in history for sure.
But those uniforms were to die for!
Charles Smith right? I’m pretty sure Hugo Boss designed at least some of their uniforms.
Archimede. Lovely watches. Their onion crown is one of the most attractive out there.
Great collection of watches the laco watches are more in my price range. I really appreciate how you hit all price points.
Great video. My favorite is the Laco with the vintage look. Until yesterday when I First watch this video, I had never heard a Flieger watch. This morning I looked at a watch I’ve had for almost twenty years. Just recently I started wearing the watch almost daily. It’s a Croton with a Japanese automatic movement and it came with four different watch bands; blue, black, olive and khaki, making it very versatile. When I looked at the face this morning, I realized that it was a type B! I wish there was someway I could post a picture of it here.
Without your video I would’ve never known just how cool this watch really is. Thank you so much keep up the good work.
Hi, you can upgrade your laco very much: it starts with the "Basis" Miyota 821 (Aachen Blaue Stunde 42mm is without competitors imho!), the "Original" series uses the eta 2824/2 elaboré that can be upgraded to "top" for little money. Each model comes as "Typ A" or "Typ B" in 39 or 42mm. All watches can be ordered as handwinded or automatic. The "Erbstück" gives you the opportunity to buy a brand new watch fliegertype looking like the heritage from your grandpa. Perfect variety and the "Basis" is the perfect entry to perfectly crafted watches, worth every very little Cent! And 42mm is perfect for larger wrists whereas 39mm is better for smaller wrists than a 40mm imho. But just my 2cents. Love my 42mm Aachen Blaue Stunde!
I’ve had a few Laco watches and they’re seriously amazing quality. It’s amazing they’re not more well known
Damasko and Sinn examples feel like more modern interpretations of the flieger than the 50m WR range from the old school makers.
Very educational! Your passion really shines through and makes viewing a pleasure.
Not sure this style is for me, I tend to like the more colourful and sporty watches like divers and racing chronographs. But it's definitely something I can appreciate.
Appreciate you watching space boy :)
I am watching with my Laco Munster on my wrist
Laco and Stowa both on my list. That blue-sunburst Aachen is just gorgeous!
Aachen Blaue Stunde in 42mm is worth every Cent. Hacking is included, laco listened to the market, because a fliegertype as being an instrument of an aircraft, that was synchronised manually by a radio signal must be hackable. So they changed it to be authentical even with the "cheap" series... Its lume is gorgeus and lasts fully charged the whole night. I LOVE it and wear it every day.
@@leisekreise is that the upgraded miyota 8315?
@@undefeatedgaul3201 i have one of the Last ETA 2824-2 with Upgrade. +4seconds/24 hours.
In September 1929 Lady Grace Drummond-Hay completed the first circumnavigation on a Zeppelin LZ127 wearing the first automatic wristwatch - the Fortis Harwood. Looking through Fortis‘ archives, it has a rich history in equipping civil and military pilots even to this day. Not mentioning them at all withholds from the viewer an amazing and very underrated watch brand
Stowa is migrating toward Sellita movements. I think the are phasing out ETA 2824.
My Orient Flight has been daily piece since 2017, love it to death. It was my first and favorite mechanical. Thanks for the video!
Hi! The automatic movement of this Orient Flight is indeed a great one. Love it!
One could pick an IWC Mark XV, or UTC, or chronograph 3706 at a fraction of the price of the current models. Bonus: they were better executed.
Great brief history of fliegers. Very informative, thanks. Always appreciate the lists as well. Keep up the great work!
In typical swiss fashion IWC supplied the german Luftwaffe AND the royal airforce with military watches...
British officers held as POWs could order a Rolex and ,as gentlemen, could be trusted to pay.
Nice selection! Stowa fleiger watches all the way!
Notice you didn't give the price of the IWC Big Pilot, it would give most of your followers indigestion!
A bronze erbstück model really kicks ass.
What about the Hamilton Day Date Auto?
I love all this history information. Wish there is more
Check out the steinhart nav-b uhr. 44mm, vintage look, domed sapphire crystal and the ETA 2824-2 elaboré movement for the price of 510 euros(!)
Love this no nonsense style
At this price point ($1000), Laco and Stowa could have found a way to make these watches 100 meters water resistant, at least.
Abacdef Mnoprs yeah that 50m is a dealbreaker for me...
We are currently working on this and it should be available in a short time :-)
Very interesting video, I love flieger watches. One addition to the list is the Alpina Startimer Pilot. Keep the good work my friend!
Watches of stranger things plz
Let me see what I can do!
I agree!
@@TeddyBaldassarre they're at least 2 casios
Great idea
A Kirovskie and a Amphiba are apparently in the most recent season as well.
Out of all of those, I like the IWC big pilot the most.
Only Laco's range offers the most historically correct productions. One look at the Stowa's case lugs (other brands as well) and I can tell its off. Most are 'flieger dials' in thick 'diver cases', some even have ridiculously thick bezels, whereas true observer/bomber watches are all dial and as little bezel edge as possible, and flat sharp lugs. No date, no day, no unnecessary words. Unfortunately Laco is a brand with an overly confusing product range and obscured name. If only they would stick their fliegers to just two range; one premium historic and one premium modern, and do away with all the affordables... they are wasting their heritage's advantage.
I think you've missed off one of the best priced new fliegers you can get at the moment - Tisell 40mm.
I did a fair bit of research when I was looking to get an entry level flieger. For
A true flieger will have no date window.
Loved the way you relieved the original five manufacturers, then the other makers today. Great structure if you’re looking for an authentic fleiger. Great channel!
Great timing! I’m spending two weeks in Berlin from next week, and will be hunting for a flieger!
Welcome to Berlin sir 👍
Which one have you purchased?
@@leisekreise Surprisingly, the stores I went to in Berlin had mostly fashion watches, and some Hamiltons - I did however find a store that had some Lacos - TBH they had very nice ... how to put it... fake vintage watches, if you will - basically they had wear and tear but actually looked amazing. Was not what I was looking for, however. I did not see the range I wanted to - was considering going to the Damasko factory which was a day's train ride awaybut did not in the end. Have not bought one yet!
On the cusp of ordering the Stowa Fliega 40 manual wind. Just need to wait for the right moment soy wife doesn't kill me before buying another watch. A good homage watch I have as one of my daily beaters is the Swatch sistem 51 Arrow which is designed like a B-uhr
Flieger watches are so cool, especially laco with that historical case dimension. I wish they'd up their water resistance a little more (I know it is a flieger watch, not a dive watch, but man it could make it a one watch collection for me )
As a flieger I got Junkers MWP. Not exactly a classic design, but with my favorite GMT function.
Been wanting to add a flieger type B to my collection yet it would likely be something like the Citizen first. Possibly not historic, but there's a Russian/German company that makes a mechanical alarm flieger type B that makes use of the existing inner hour circle for setting the alarm. I have the Strela Cosmos variant that I really like and it's a complication that's not too common nowadays, so I wouldn't mind having another look with it along with merging functionality.
In these fantastic videos all watches appear nicer than they are in the real world.
Thanks for pronouncing Stowa right at 7:49...
Don't fuck around with your Flieger watches - if you want a reproduction watch that looks like a tool, buy a Laco with an ETA in it. If you want something with the iconic dials but a little more modern and shiny, buy a Stowa. If you're rich and historical accuracy is not a priority, IWC is for you. Every other budget brand riffing on the style really not worth bothering about. Also, avoid budget Laco - you wouldn't want to wish a Miyota 821A movement on your worst enemy.
Love my IWC BP, it feels at home in a airplane
I got a Stowa Flieger Classic 6498 Bronze Vintage last year, which I just love. The heat treated blued hands and finishing work they did on the Unitas movement is great.
I ordered my 6498 bronze last week. They say 6 weeks, I hope sooner
Great Video Teddy, thx, now is Laco on my List :)
I have the Laco A dial in 42mm. It has great lume. Very stylish. I love it.
Gotta give a shoutout to the budget flieger Seiko SNK803/5/7/9 👍
A search for Stowa on Amazon directs you to Laco which is also a very nice piece. I want my ideal Flieger type B to be at least 46mm, sapphire crystal and not have a Miyota movement.
I have just ordered a Stowa Flieger Baumuster B Sport, hand winding, no date, with a screw down crown!
Not sure the actual number of watches delivered to the axis by IWC
Laco and Stowa were the bulk/main suppliers…
At 6:01 you have the Paderborn info but a Type A watch. Paderborn is a Type B.
Great video as usual, thank you. I have a (made in the UK) Geckota K01 Pilot with the B type dial. 40mm with a 2824-2 movement. Very reasonably priced considering the movement and the blue dial with a blue Barton strap looks stunning. My one recommendation would be that if you're going for a Type B dial fleiger then go for at least a 42mm. The 40mm with the inner hour dial some people might find a little smaller than is comfortable.
Good advice, thanks!
Typo at minute 14:52 Sinn 856 should be called "B-Uhr"
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Thousand dollars PLUS for a watch? Roll up victims...
well, using the seiko calibers in the Laco doesnt give the best precision does it? I mean the dayly deviation around 25 secs 😆 anyhow I like them
Nice comprehensive guide to the flieger watch. Thanks for all the hard work you put into this video!
I really like the Type B . It is pleasing to my aviator eye.
I love Fleigers but how do I reconcile that with the fact it was created to assist the Luftwafe in killing the Allies? Open to honest suggestions. Thanks in advance.
Just bought a Seiko sports watch has the similar face as the Luftwaffe type B model.
The Spitfire name with a Luftwaffe dial? No thanks.
Good point sir
Did Hanhart also make watches in the black forrest for the luftwaffe?
FORTIS FLIEGER IS THE BEST.
where is FORTIS ?
Hamilton's Pilot Day Dates are also good choices in the below $1,000 range.
I put mine on a croc flieger strap and it looks like a big pilot
Nice pieces my friend specially those first flieger stunning, love their history behind and the price just unbelievable 👍🌎
stowa is ridiculous overpriced, I mean, almost disrespectful.
Flieger Watches
I miss my Glashütte Original Senator Navigator Panorama Date. It kills all of these.
I agree!
Question: is the original pilot watch handwound or automatic?
So what makes the IWC 4 times the cost or the Laco or Stowa?
brand
Because IWC Schaffhausen
Not the same movement
I like the look of lavo but they use miyuota Japanese movements
Man my $67 Corgeut type A Dial has same specs as that $410 Laco Augsburg. @ +3 sec. a Day. Lol 😁
Island Terror $67 is a good deal indeed! I got one too!
Does that actually have sapphire? What movement is in it?
I read some reviews that they tested the Corgeut Pilot Watch and determined that it was indeed sapphire crystal.
As for the movement, the one I bought from didnt specify any movement but other videos and reviews mention Miyota. I guess as long as it’s not openly advertised on the product page as Miyota, I can’t be 100% sure what mine is.
@@AliasEveWatches Yeah that's also what I found, looks pretty good for the money. Finishing of hands, dial and case is decent? Might put this one on my shortlist.
I was quite happy with it, but honestly I am a novice at these things so I dont trust my own opinions just yet. I did make an up close demo video of the corgeut to help people form their own opinion of the watch. :)
Dekla also make very good type B flieger watches to order.
Nice video. I also like the Fortis Flieger Interpretations as well
The 2021 new Steeldive type B and type A SD1940…..12.4mm think, 200m water resistance, screw down crown, sapphire crystal with both sided AR, solid endlink, Swiss C3 everything Lume up as bright as any Seiko, solid oyster style bracelet……for $80 Seiko NH35a, 39mm case and 20mm lugs width…..winner to me, just bought 2. None of these watches here give you any of those specs…..I could not care about what “name tag” on the dial…..oh, wait, right, the brand name are not even on their dials…..I rather paid $80 for all the awesome specs than being a stupid brand fanboy!
Love type A with onion crown
My favorite as well!
I knew Helmut Sinn and doubt he would have approved of the look of the 856 B-UH. As a WWII Luftwaffe pilot, he was a purist for the utility and simplicity of the "Flieger Uhren" of his day. I have several of his early designs reflecting his respect for readability for precise airborne maneuver timing for navigation, especially at night. Few know that he flew JU-88's, crashing and injured in Russia, and afterwards "Tante JU's. I was his house guest in Frankfurt once upon a time. In his home on display he had a propeller from a JU-88. If anyone knew "pilot" watches, it was Helmut Sinn.
Archimede from Ickler. Talk about history. Third generation family owned business manufacturing watch cases for almost 100 years. Customers like Christian Klings and RGM have used their cases for their own models. In-house flame blued hands as well. Not just assmeblers like Stowa and others. Want truly German Made, Archimede is the answer. (Archimede is not owned by Laco and have nothing to do with Laco whatsoever.)
Have a laco b dial giving to me by my dad. The strap is canvas with grommets. Not sure if it's original because I haven't seen another example. Had it cleaned by an older Korean watch maker. He was elated to see that the rubies were not synthetic. Don't know how he could know that. Doesn't make any sense to me Didn't speak English very well. Only can find modern copies of this watch. No idea of the value of this piece. It's huge!!
Stowa or Laco would be my choice, with a preference towards the Laco. Orient, Archimede and Citizen wouldn't even make it to the shortlist! In an ideal world where my bank balance is virtually limitless, my choice would a an original Second World War dated A. Lange & Söhne Flieger, with type B dial. Although I could currently in theory afford such a watch, it's WELL outside my SENSIBLE budget for a watch. It's a shame that the originals don't have the 'exhibition caseback' as it's such a shame for the beautiful workmanship of A. Lange & Söhne to be hidden, but originality and the history count for a lot.
Laco and Damasko looks awesome!!
You can buy a San Martin type B flieger with sapphire glass, NH35 movement, screw in crown, 200 meter water resistance, and great lume for $150 on Ali Express. It is 39 mm in diameter, 49 mm lug to lug, and takes 20 mm straps. Model SN030-G. I love mine.
seiko snk809 another modern type b reinterpretation
Love Stowa. If it is a bit cheaper, it would be better. About the showing price in the clip, it is OK if they provide ETA2824 Top Grade.
My Laco B Uhr is #22 of 50 replicas made back in 2005/2006. Came with black and brown riveted leather straps and manual wind, sapphire crystal.
I've been looking into a Laco Type B I enjoy the way these look. It will be my first watch. I am very interested in getting into watches now. I've worked on cars for almost my whole life and started watching Wristwatch Revival, now Teddy was in my recommended so I started watching. I will either goo with the Laco or a Hamilton Khaki for my first watch. I am saving up, these watches are pretty expensive, but figure might as well go all in at first. Kevin said in one of your vids to be agnostic to cost. Lol. Thank you
I was confused by what I was looking at. Almost all of those watches are basically like a Hamilton Khaki field watch, especially at 38-40mm. The cheapest Citizen example is the only one that seems to capture the spirit of the historical specification.
I like pilot watches. What you are showing us is basically very expensive homage watches. Nothing against homage watches. However, they should be cheaper. The Chinese have the homage watch market pretty much sewn up. If I want a homage watch I buy Chinese.
Hi! Your Orient Flight watch for sure is the one with 48743 automatic movement which is a great Orient movement. Regards.
So I’m not a huge fan of homage brand but, between a Laco Augsburg 42 that has a Miyota mov. VS. a Steinhart nav-b-uhr 44mm with an ETA2824, which is a better watch?
I think it defeats the purpose of these watches to make the so small 40, 42, are too all for flight watches. They should be 44-45 minimum. Hate that they try make them trendy by making them smaller.
Great content and selections.