ไม่สามารถเล่นวิดีโอนี้
ขออภัยในความไม่สะดวก

DON'T BUILD HER WRONG! Best Ellen Guide & Build (Hidden Combos, W-Engines, Drive Disc & Teams) ZZZ

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
  • DON'T BUILD HER WRONG! Best Ellen Guide & Build (Hidden Combos, W-Engines, Drive Disc & Teams) Zenless Zone Zero
    Follow me on Twitch: / darkherocc
    Follow me on Twitter: x.com/DarkHeroCC
    My DarkHero Channel: @DarkHeroCC
    My DarkHero 2 Channel: @darkhero2
    Ellen's Low Poly A-Pose 3D Model done by x.com/Teoi4Quote
    Zenless Zone Zero Character Guides:
    Ellen Guide: • DON'T BUILD HER WRONG!...
    Zhu Yuan Guide: • ZHU YUAN IS BROKEN! Be...
    Lycaon Guide:
    Rina Guide:
    Soldier 11 Guide:
    Nekomata Guide:
    Koleda Guide:
    Grace Guide:
    Soukaku Guide:
    Ben Guide:
    Anton Guide:
    Corin Guide:
    Billy Guide:
    Nicole Guide:
    Anby Guide:
    Lucy Guide:
    Piper Guide:
    0:00 Why Ellen Is So Strong
    0:39 Ellen's Stats
    0:57 How To Play Ellen (Kit & Combos)
    4:05 Ellen Optimal Damage Rotation
    5:37 Ellen's Core Passives
    6:22 Ellen Mindscapes (Eidolons or Constellations)
    9:31 Ellen's Best Bangboos
    10:06 Ellen's Best W-Engines
    12:47 Ellen's Best Drive Disc Set
    16:15 Ellen's Best Stats To Prioritize
    17:19 Ellen's Best Teams
    18:56 Should You Get Ellen?
    19:06 Subscribe to win the next 50/50!
    #zenlesszonezero #zzz #hoyoverse

ความคิดเห็น • 115

  • @DarkHeroGacha
    @DarkHeroGacha  หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Should I get more Chibi 3d Models for other characters like Ellen's? 🦈🤔
    *Small correction* : You can follow up *both* EX Specials with the 3rd BA hit

    • @Reubenaut
      @Reubenaut หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Chibis are necessary

    • @whattypeofx7750
      @whattypeofx7750 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      LOVE IT

    • @axnik_part_1
      @axnik_part_1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For sure

    • @sokwubz567
      @sokwubz567 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do it for every character guide

  • @fulltimed6800
    @fulltimed6800 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I’m still confused how woodpecker electro is better. You get a whole 40% more basic attack and dash attack damage bonus when using polar metal. And all u get is a 9% attack bonus on woodpecker. I can also still use the 2 piece woodpecker for more crit rate as well

    • @afilthyweeb8684
      @afilthyweeb8684 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Dude's build is hella wrong. Polar Metal is way more damage and having the ice damage bonus means it scales multiplicative with existing attack bonuses while the woodpecker is additive. The only way woodpecker is better if you have like three times as much % ice dmg bonus as % attack bonus.

    • @alexfelker2361
      @alexfelker2361 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@afilthyweeb8684 no, the woodbecker set stacks up to 3x (1x for each type of skill in the description mentioned) which equals 27%. In ZZZ entering combat converts your atk stat and all additional permanent attack buffs into conbat base attack. Meaning all atk % gained IN battle scale of your combat base which is typically MUCH higher than your characters base atk. Coming from vr tests with my ellen: She has 1699 atk and after triggering all 3 stacks from woodpecker she gained an additional 459 atk!! Polar metal does NOT increase the dmg from chain, special, ex special and ultimate attacks while regular atk increases all dmg

    • @romeliejimenez6162
      @romeliejimenez6162 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      stupid videos just for views

    • @fulltimed6800
      @fulltimed6800 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alexfelker2361 hm very interesting. Why doesn’t the woodpecker say that it stacks? If that’s the case then they should add the 3x stacks to the set so we can read it. But yeah now I see how it can be super powerful

    • @HabibiAsli
      @HabibiAsli 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Woodpecker focused on Basic attack.
      Ellen does focused on basic attack

  • @tobelee6985
    @tobelee6985 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    in the end my brain is filled with the phrase "with that being said"

  • @jacktheripper7935
    @jacktheripper7935 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Got her in my first 10 pull and her W-engine in 30 pulls, I am happy.
    Road to Miyabi now.

    • @dinoboy6632
      @dinoboy6632 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i got her in my very first 10 pull too!!!

    • @frankjr.3916
      @frankjr.3916 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Took me 160 pulls still need her weapon 😢

    • @Lynx-ns5xf
      @Lynx-ns5xf หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bro I got her on 80 pull and now her weapon in my first 10th pull

    • @frankjr.3916
      @frankjr.3916 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Lynx-ns5xf PoG!

    • @ghostlyargonaut7988
      @ghostlyargonaut7988 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Miyabi in 1.3 so we have time

  • @revo5124
    @revo5124 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    thanks i just started using ellen after maining nakomata and she was confusing!!

    • @isthe3573
      @isthe3573 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      omg same scenario here, its rlly hard to go from DASH DASH DASH to double dash -> hold atk

  • @tmahar08
    @tmahar08 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Awesome video!! Tysm for sharing. Ive been absolutely loving Ellen and while the banner was aweful to me, i finally got her W engine too. Now im hoping to get Lycaon but so far have gotten Grace and Neko 😔

  • @Hangishta
    @Hangishta หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I lost my 50/50, but I will vicariously live on the Ellen gameplay through everyone else.

  • @nathanstubbs1918
    @nathanstubbs1918 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    WOOOO LETHAL LEAGUE MUSIC!!! Great guide too.

  • @arvandor6820
    @arvandor6820 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Haha "won't be power crept any time soon" .... *Looks at my Seele in HSR* We shall see, bud... We shall see.

    • @NeinKyori
      @NeinKyori หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Tbf, Seele is still eating well
      She and Ratio compete in different team comp anyway

    • @jennyannzhang7433
      @jennyannzhang7433 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I started a seele. She carried me until Kafka came out. Considering it was refilled, it was def worth.

  • @ItsMasTeRYT_
    @ItsMasTeRYT_ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No way, the letal league blaze song in the background, im happy that someone else like it xd

  • @Vushuu
    @Vushuu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lost my 1st 50/50 just to hit Lycaon instead and then hit Ellen and her W-engine in 30 pulls. The gatcha has trully blessed me.
    Now hoping to get her to 2nd Mindscape :3 (i think i might have used up all my luck with how its going so far 😂)

    • @vladys001
      @vladys001 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Luck is shared across all players, so you might get both good and bad luck in future

  • @bradleydarling6084
    @bradleydarling6084 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was pulling for soukaku and ended up getting a 5 star was scared of winning the 50/50 because 8 had ellen joe already but instead I got lycaon which I did not have and now have guaranteed banner next time finally my luck is coming I have so many qiqi and lost to so many others so glad to see my luck come around .

  • @miro6940
    @miro6940 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    btw you put wrong image on "ellen's best disk drive sets"

    • @vladys001
      @vladys001 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's called clickbait, he also baited you and me for the comments

    • @vohungnam3847
      @vohungnam3847 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it's depend on your style, but all-round set should be 4 piece polar + 2 piece woodpecker

  • @tmahar08
    @tmahar08 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cant wait to hear all your thoughts on Zhu Yuan 💜

  • @FantasyAeon
    @FantasyAeon หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ellen C1 is huge.. you can get easily 6* flash recharge with CA or 3* FR with NA. More FR more DPS

    • @Arlé-c4s
      @Arlé-c4s หลายเดือนก่อน

      I got Ellen on the first ten pull after rerolling, then crazy enough I also got lucky with her weapon coming home in the first 10 pulls. I decided to pull more since I lowkey wanted to see if I can get early C1 and maybe Lucy and Piper too since my standard banner pulls have been terrible, but got early Lycaon at 30 pity instead. I decided to save up my guarantee instead of going for C1. 😂

  • @nktino
    @nktino 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    question... say if I'm building ellan as a solo dmg agent, what disc drives 4 and 2 piece would I need to use to the most for ellans damage output? also say she doesn't have any other ice agents to help her.

  • @alucardd8
    @alucardd8 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think you got the stun rotation wrong. The first thing you should do is spend an ice charge with a normal attack so Ellen activates her talent anda gain de Critical damage bust, then use de Ultimate, and then de Ex combos

  • @Zonkeyplays
    @Zonkeyplays หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    THANK YOU

  • @fadgjl840
    @fadgjl840 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you for the vid! i got 3 ellen in 55 pulls and her engine in 20 pulls, truly blessed! One thing to note for M2 ellen is, u should always go for charged dash atk bc it gives 6 stacks, so this way when u use 3 stacks to get to her 3rd basic atk, u will still have 3 stacks for the crit dmg buff when u proc sharknami

    • @polarbuswar3577
      @polarbuswar3577 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How?? I got Ellen in 150 pulls as I lost the 50/50 😢

    • @fadgjl840
      @fadgjl840 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@polarbuswar3577 rip, hopefully u get lucky on zhu yuan

  • @eyhrrv6977
    @eyhrrv6977 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just got her c1 as f2p. Mannnn i just want soukaku cons XD

  • @cabangonlorenz7419
    @cabangonlorenz7419 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    WOW THIS MADE ME OPEN MY EYES... I'm a casual player I don't really dive into Meta teams or meta builds, but I didn't even notice that my team is the best in game right now, my first S rank is Von Lycaon to my dismay... I really wanted Nekomata. I got Ellen after I said "fuck it we ball" and prematurely spent my 6 limited pulls and got her on 5th pity, and I also did 1 pull on her weapon cuz why not and I actually got it. I was really happy, then I did a 10 pull on standard after I acquired level up rewards and I got another Lycaon and 2 Soukakos on that 10 pull, bruhv

  • @supercowgaming
    @supercowgaming หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I tested out ice damage vs attack disk 5. Every damage the ice damage is higher but for shatter damage it scales with attack better idk why.

  • @Althexia
    @Althexia หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish people would show at what points an A-Rank W-Engine is better than an S5 B-Rank W-Engine. They only ever show S5 A and B-rank, but what if we don't have an S5 A-Rank? is an S1 A-Rank better than using an S5 B-Rank? This would be pertty helpful information that I don't ever see provided. For F2P it's a lot easier to get S5 B-Rank engines and most of the time out A-Ranks are S1-S3 at most. Especially since I'd rather not pull on the weapon banner and save my pulls for characters until much later on when I'm satisfied with my roster and teams.

    • @NeinKyori
      @NeinKyori หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      S5 B rank most of the time would still lose to S1 A rank due to lower base stat

  • @gigabyte6997
    @gigabyte6997 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:31 you can also use penguinboo if you don't have either of the two bangboos :)

  • @Ravozhon
    @Ravozhon 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got Ellen, nt because shes a good character...
    But because I like her design.

  • @minguzzz
    @minguzzz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    got c1 ellen and her sig weap ❤️

  • @Arlé-c4s
    @Arlé-c4s หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got Ellen on the first ten pull then her weapon also in the first ten pull. I was doing a couple more pulls since I needed more characters and I only have Koleda as another 5* and don't have Lucy and Piper but ended up getting an early Lycaon at 30 pity so now my mono-Ice team is cracked. 😂 On the other hand, I don't know what to do with my second team lol, 110 pulls in standard was so unlucky.

  • @billybobjoe1603
    @billybobjoe1603 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What would you do if you have Rina instead of Soukaku? Could that be better if you have Rina's signature weapon? I'm an F2P player that got insanely lucky drawing Ellen, Lycaon, Koleda, Rina and Grace, along with Rina's signature weapon in a total of ~220 pulls across both banners. Soukaku for me is C5 fyi

  • @joey-sama1506
    @joey-sama1506 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can also swap characters backwards by pressing C

  • @reshydongg9159
    @reshydongg9159 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got c1 ellen in about 70 pulls now im pulling for her engine

  • @isidroduarte8942
    @isidroduarte8942 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like Ellen a lot but I’m not pulling for her Weapon. Zhu Yuan is coming up and the next banner character after her is looking nice too.

    • @thegamewoods8473
      @thegamewoods8473 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Going for all 3? Man's either lucky or got cash to burn.

    • @isidroduarte8942
      @isidroduarte8942 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thegamewoods8473 got Ellen in 5 single pulls.

    • @mattr.1804
      @mattr.1804 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I was going to do the same and said screw it and managed to pull her weapon on the 3rd 10 pull. Zhu Yuan is cool and all but she’s no Jane Doe. Banking everything now until her banner.

    • @CENB71
      @CENB71 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Next banners are Qingyi and Jane, Zhu Yuan hopefully after those 2.

    • @ok10469
      @ok10469 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm new to gachas but isn't it near impossible to pull all of them? I got extremely lucky and I pulled both Ellen and and her w engine but should I go for more? Again I don't really know how stuff works so since she's limited I'm afraid I'm gonna be stuck on mindscape 1 If I stop. Will I be able to pull her agent focus in the future if I already own her?

  • @polysemy_
    @polysemy_ หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    idk how any of that math adds up for the disc drives 😭 I swapped to the polar set from woodpecker, and it made a huge difference.
    10% ice damage, 20% damage (ofc it doesn't include the EX special but still) and 20% more for the additional effect.
    all you need is getting even luckier for the stat rolls to make up for the lacking crit rate. I got really lucky 🤷‍♂️

    • @polysemy_
      @polysemy_ หลายเดือนก่อน

      though I should probably take off the 2 piece anomaly set bcs ice is already easy to trigger thinking ab it... and then it'd be even stronger with crit rate from woodpecker and the polar set.
      I'm telling you, compared to every other elemental disc drive, it's broken. you have that innate 20% damage, everything else requires the burn, shock, etc. to be in effect from what I remember reading.

  • @ivanbanda559
    @ivanbanda559 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. I have a question how to I activate the BA3 do I have to do BA1+BA2 meaning pressing square 3 times in a row to do a BA3? Sorry I downloaded this game yesterday still pretty new at it

  • @axnik_part_1
    @axnik_part_1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great videos

  • @pstripple3
    @pstripple3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm lost so pretty much. so if u have all 6 woodpecker electro put them all in is what u saying

  • @nabhaswiangthad7364
    @nabhaswiangthad7364 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is the W engine worth it? I’m currently using the brimstone as a substitute

    • @harleywilson8829
      @harleywilson8829 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes is a massive damage boost

    • @vladys001
      @vladys001 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can check preliminary calculations, but I would expect around 20% increase in dps with signature

    • @Arlé-c4s
      @Arlé-c4s หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      YES! The crit main stat and passives are just too good and make it easier to build her and opt for crit damage instead of crit rate.

  • @Yohruu
    @Yohruu หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good vid, but why neglect penguinboo? Big argument to be had if you're f2p or small-whaling and don't plan on c5'ing sharkboo, c5 penguinboo has better dmg multiplier and daze multiplier than a c1 sharkboo.

    • @ok10469
      @ok10469 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah but you can choose sharkboo in the bangboo stable banner and basically only get him as an s tier. Also sharkboos attack basically holds enemies in place and its chain attack deals quite a bit of damage

    • @kevindu18400
      @kevindu18400 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      you can't p2w bangboos

    • @Arlé-c4s
      @Arlé-c4s หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude, you can't really whale for the bangboos there's no way to buy them 😂 you either need insane luck or mentally insane to use all your wishes to get C5 Sharkboo

    • @ahnafrakin5810
      @ahnafrakin5810 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Getting a c1 sharkboo is more likely that a c5 penguinboo. Remember these pulls are limited.

  • @joshuarbanda
    @joshuarbanda 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dude i am so jelly i want Ellen but not wanting to spend any money😢

  • @DigitvlDee
    @DigitvlDee หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any Ellen and Rins synergy?

  • @werse3710
    @werse3710 หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:00 the images for the disks and the names are wrong so interpreting that graph should be taken with a grain of salt

    • @DarkHeroGacha
      @DarkHeroGacha  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the names are right, I wrongfully swapped the Pupper Electro and Polar Metal icons, my bad

  • @joelm3281
    @joelm3281 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about putting all the three-2 piece set effects mentioned here? Atk, ice damage, and crit for an all around build thpe of thing

    • @DarkHeroGacha
      @DarkHeroGacha  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      4pc set bonuses are too valuable for such a spread, though there may be potentially a character that can be optimized in such a way with future sets

    • @Arlé-c4s
      @Arlé-c4s หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah, going for 1 full set it the way. Anyway, you will get more attack bonus if you just put 4pcs. woodpecker instead of the 2pc.

  • @ZackVuldin
    @ZackVuldin หลายเดือนก่อน

    do u know if its better to get Ellen from M1-M2 or get her W-Engine?

  • @KritzAz
    @KritzAz หลายเดือนก่อน

    without her signature w engine, what exact number of crit rate and crit damage should i achieve. I get the part of 1:2 ratio, just wonder minimum and recommended crit rate should i achieve considering her core skill etc

    • @DarkHeroGacha
      @DarkHeroGacha  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd always try to reach 75%-80% crit rate, though 70% would be totally fine (and far easier to reach without her signature w-engine)

    • @KritzAz
      @KritzAz หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DarkHeroGacha so if 70% cr, what cdmg i should consider

  • @otakuop2246
    @otakuop2246 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bruh I thought it was braxophone nevertheless good video man

  • @CENB71
    @CENB71 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does it matter if the bonus order are swapping around 4/5/6?

    • @user-mm2ru6vm6s
      @user-mm2ru6vm6s หลายเดือนก่อน

      if u mean the disc drives then no i don’t think so. just put your 2 piece set in the spot where it has the better sub stats

  • @niedrzyjsietak
    @niedrzyjsietak หลายเดือนก่อน

    GOD TIER SUPER DUPER OP DON'T MISS OUT OVERPOWERED BROKEN DPS EVEN BETTER NOW PULL NOW WATCH THIS VIDEO NOW

    • @housemana
      @housemana หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      quiet, brokie

  • @royalty4376
    @royalty4376 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Got Ellen on my first pull xD

  • @Tyler-lq3eu
    @Tyler-lq3eu หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pretty sure…. i’m gonna build her however i want. And that’s not wrong. :)

    • @Saber_fgc
      @Saber_fgc หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok but if you can't clear content don't go complaining about it

    • @BG-vg5jd
      @BG-vg5jd หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      then dont watch a fucking guide about building her lol.

  • @meegoreng5142
    @meegoreng5142 หลายเดือนก่อน

    C2..