I find more intresting the highlight recovery test. Who wants to recovery 5 stops in an underexposed photo? 5 stops is a massive error...unexceptable error 🧐
PERFECT COMPARISON! JUST FUCKING PERFECT! I was planing on upgrading from 70D to 80D, just because of Dynamic Range. But since i shoot mostly low light, you kinda save me a 250$, because DR advantage of 80D on higher ISO is invisible. Thank you man!
Well with the 80D you have more resolution and can use more NR in post than the 70D with the same amount of detail. but it depends on if you think thats worth it. Also it has a brighter view finder if you're shooting lowlight. Still up to you though
you forgot to turn off chroma noise reduction. BTW, the differences are not so huge, sicerely i pushed shadows up only that much in very-very rare occasions, and only when shooting landscapes. For landscape shooters the improvement is noticeable, otherwise on events you use iso400-iso1600 range, and it makes no difference
Stop!!! The autofocus on the 80D is working until -3ev ;)) without being able to focus the noise performance of any camera will be useless! I think the autofocus system on the 80D is worth the extra investment. All in all the 80D is the better camera in my opinion!
I currently own a 70D and shoot mostly wildlife / nature. My personal experience with the 70D for usable images would be no higher than ISO 1000 and usually no more than two stops of exposure recovery. I would love to see a re-test of shadow recovery at 400 800 and 1600 ISO with no more than 2 1/2 stops of exposure adjustment. I think this would be more of a real world scenario. Thank you for the great content!
Somthing to note. I see that when looking at how far you can push the shadows on the 5D you have the lens focal length set to 105mm i assume to have the subject the same size in frame as the crop sensors etc. I know the 24-105L has a fixed F4 value all the way from 24mm to 105mm but did you know the T stop actually changes T is light transmission. That lens from wide at 24mm to 105mm actually loses just under 1 third of a stop of light. It would be more fair to use a fixed prime lens and not change any values. Good vid keep up the work. Just a bit of a heads up my friend.
Cranking up 5stops from 3200 is craziness.. 80D did pretty good in your tests at lower ISOs.. Even i was planning to upgrade for its dynamic range and i think it is worth the upgrade. Thanks for the comparison
Enjoyed this video very much. Especially side by side comparision of shots versus one view after the other. In the end I liked the 70D detail in most and the color in 80D. From what I heard from others I guess I would rather buy the 70D.
Because the 80D "wins" the Highlight Recovery .... 2.00 Stops is more than 1.80 thats right. But if you get that this is the ammount of correction the 80D was "closer" to the target than the 80D
Not the worst test in the world, however in the future be sure to use the same lens across all bodies being tested. This will definitely help with Chromatic noise comparison as the lens itself plays a role in that.
I like this , I been really thinking about that 80 as a B-camera for these low paying clients for music videos and photo shoots , for I think this is really an amazing Camera for the price ! thank you for sharing !
very interesting - I have just gotten an 80D, I actually think on purpose the default internal profile is biased towards being underexposed in order to emphasise the shadow performance, I had to mess around quite a bit to get used to it after my 550D.
You should test shadow recovery on ISO 400 or 1000, because ISO 160,320,640,1250... are different then 100,200,400,800,1600. But thanks for this test, DR in video is only reason why I should consider upgrade from 70D to 80D. Now I see that DR is not so big deal. So still better to buy used 5D3 in similar price.
nice video! But maybe you should consider to also turn back the sharpning to 0 when u check the noise, as this function also generate kind of artificial noise to suggest a sharp picture. Claiming at high level, i know 😉
thanks, I thought there was a huge difference in ISO between xxD and xD canon models. But in fact, that's almost the same... I saved 3000$ thanks to you :)
What's clearly vivid is that only 80D doesn't produce anymore this terrible checked pattern when boosting ISO100 image. The noise is very soft, even with +5EV.
Orange no this was legit, at the end of the day u just want the best image out of your shooting situation based on the camera u have, he didnt mention what lenses he used tho
We reallly need to cut this DR stuff out and get the shots right in camera. Adjusting past a stop in any camera starts to introduce noise and color degradation. Expose the shot correctly from the beginning.
5D Mk III has a bigger image sensor so you can fit more into a photo, so if you're doing landscapes that may be a better option. Otherwise 80D is cheaper and more all-round photography good.
out of the 3 which one would you use for Video? Im looking to get another camera and im looking for a full frame camera. as of right now my best bet is for the 80D but what is you thoughts on that?
With iso 3200 and shutter at 1/1000th are you possibly dealing with different amounts of light from flickering studio lights? Ie refresh rate of your light
Hello! Please compare the new EOS 90D to 80D and 5D Mark IV in terms of dynamic range. 90D has 2 generations newer imaging processor (DIGIC 8) than 80D (DIGIC 6) so maybe they even kept improving their sensors? If so, I might consider not switching to Sony :]
yeah, sony is really tempting, especially for video and indoor shooting, I am currently in a no conclusion situation between 80d and A6300, the 80d has better focus but the 4k and the much much cleaner image of a6300 makes it really tough, Only thing keeping me to stay canon is the cheaper lens options, 50mn f1.8 stm costs around 80 usd for canon while it costs around 300usd for sony, also the canon body is 100usd cheaper than the sony, but still I can't settle down
Could you compare eos200d and 80d? 200d is certainly an amateur body but it has quite high DR, according to DxOmark: 13.4 EV, more that 80D's 13.2 EV. I'm sooo curious how this new little body would manage boosting underexposed images in postpro. Is it iso-less or at least close to that? There's no DR chart in DxOmark for 200d. However, there is one for 80D and it IS truly iso-less, which we cannot tell about 5DmkIII... Be ashamed, full-frames! I'm gonna do my work on APS-C and stick to it.
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Chris, people often do it who are new to photography and don’t know how to expose and have to recover mistakes or mishaps. For landscapes with massive dynamic range, pros often combine exposures, or use a half graduated neutral density filter. If a new photographer blows the exposure, it’s really good to have good dynamic range, which is why you see cheap digital cameras having good DR, vs film cameras which have a very narrow latitude. With chrome (slide film) the dr is maybe 1/2 stop. When you learn to expose properly, DR becomes a lot more unimportant. But it’s a great feature to have for beginners.
you don`t go 5 stops at a dynamic range test... a 3 stops maximum... not so useful... I was interested in the 5d3 in particular but the video is not relevant to me...
5 stops is an extreme example, but you can get an idea of what 3 stops would look like, obviously the 80D is better than the 5Diii in this regard. The 5D IV is also similar as they've improved the dynamic range (retained shadow detail) which has been notoriously lacking for a LONG time in most Canon cameras. Sony / Nikon has had way more latitude in their raw files when under exposed for SO LONG now. They're still ahead, but at least 80D and 5D IV have finally improved.
Thank you. I have the 70D and was wondering if an upgrade to either the 80D or 5DIII would be worth, mmmm OREO COOKIES, I am going to get some Oreos and keep my 70D.
The 80D has MUCH better focusing and a higher pixel count (24MP) than the 70D. The sensor works better in low light, has wider dynamic range and incredibly fast focus even when using the rear LCD screen. When it comes to video its no contest.
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I had my 80D for over a year now and I am very happy with it, and really love the dynamic range.
80D at ISO 320 + 5 stops of light = ISO 10240 WITH A CLEAN IMAGE!!! THAT'S INSANELY AWESOME !!!
For an Aps-C, exactly.
I'm looking up for this test with 90d.
70D: expose right.
80D: expose left.
5D3: save your money.
I find more intresting the highlight recovery test. Who wants to recovery 5 stops in an underexposed photo? 5 stops is a massive error...unexceptable error 🧐
The low ISO shadow recovery is what I really care about. I think that is the real practical test here. Good job thanks.
PERFECT COMPARISON! JUST FUCKING PERFECT!
I was planing on upgrading from 70D to 80D, just because of Dynamic Range. But since i shoot mostly low light, you kinda save me a 250$, because DR advantage of 80D on higher ISO is invisible.
Thank you man!
You're welcome dude, glad the video was helpful :)
Well with the 80D you have more resolution and can use more NR in post than the 70D with the same amount of detail. but it depends on if you think thats worth it. Also it has a brighter view finder if you're shooting lowlight. Still up to you though
you forgot to turn off chroma noise reduction.
BTW, the differences are not so huge, sicerely i pushed shadows up only that much in very-very rare occasions, and only when shooting landscapes. For landscape shooters the improvement is noticeable, otherwise on events you use iso400-iso1600 range, and it makes no difference
Stop!!! The autofocus on the 80D is working until -3ev ;)) without being able to focus the noise performance of any camera will be useless! I think the autofocus system on the 80D is worth the extra investment. All in all the 80D is the better camera in my opinion!
What a concise, well made video. Well done!
So insightful. Thank you!
I am glad to own the 80D:-) Thank you for this comparison!
I currently own a 70D and shoot mostly wildlife / nature. My personal experience with the 70D for usable images would be no higher than ISO 1000 and usually no more than two stops of exposure recovery. I would love to see a re-test of shadow recovery at 400 800 and 1600 ISO with no more than 2 1/2 stops of exposure adjustment. I think this would be more of a real world scenario. Thank you for the great content!
One of my best selling pictures is the Mandarin Duck at 2000 ISO. It looked great. Must be the lens that you are using.
Somthing to note. I see that when looking at how far you can push the shadows on the 5D you have the lens focal length set to 105mm i assume to have the subject the same size in frame as the crop sensors etc. I know the 24-105L has a fixed F4 value all the way from 24mm to 105mm but did you know the T stop actually changes T is light transmission. That lens from wide at 24mm to 105mm actually loses just under 1 third of a stop of light. It would be more fair to use a fixed prime lens and not change any values. Good vid keep up the work. Just a bit of a heads up my friend.
Cranking up 5stops from 3200 is craziness.. 80D did pretty good in your tests at lower ISOs.. Even i was planning to upgrade for its dynamic range and i think it is worth the upgrade. Thanks for the comparison
Great video man..keep up the good work!
Thank you. Very helpful!! Hope we can see when newer body comes. Thumb up!
Let's see a comparison between the 80D and 5D Mark IV.
Enjoyed this video very much. Especially side by side comparision of shots versus one view after the other.
In the end I liked the 70D detail in most and the color in 80D. From what I heard from others I guess I would rather buy the 70D.
Sorry Mate, the Highlight-Recovery-"Test" is complete Nonsense.
Why? How so? Asking for a friend.
Because the 80D "wins" the Highlight Recovery .... 2.00 Stops is more than 1.80 thats right. But if you get that this is the ammount of correction the 80D was "closer" to the target than the 80D
FourSixTeen
Highlight test based on natural light can be unreliable.
How can the 80d be closer than the 80d? Its closer than its self?
Not the worst test in the world, however in the future be sure to use the same lens across all bodies being tested. This will definitely help with Chromatic noise comparison as the lens itself plays a role in that.
Good research!
Is the kind of reviews i want to see !!
I really enjoyed this video, you got a subscribe and a bell click. keep it up!
Please consider that Lightroom default sharpening setting is also introducing noise, so it would have been nice to set that to 0 as well.
I like this , I been really thinking about that 80
as a B-camera for these low paying clients for music videos and photo shoots , for I think this is
really an amazing Camera for the price ! thank you for sharing !
very interesting - I have just gotten an 80D, I actually think on purpose the default internal profile is biased towards being underexposed in order to emphasise the shadow performance, I had to mess around quite a bit to get used to it after my 550D.
Very nice video. Thank you :)
You should test shadow recovery on ISO 400 or 1000, because ISO 160,320,640,1250... are different then 100,200,400,800,1600. But thanks for this test, DR in video is only reason why I should consider upgrade from 70D to 80D. Now I see that DR is not so big deal. So still better to buy used 5D3 in similar price.
Good & honest man.
you are a very nice guy. Congratulations! Nice job!
really helpful,thanks!
Good Video!
So the 80D is the camera that has excellent image quality
Loved it !!!
awesome, under expose for the 80d.
keep in mind that lenses have different performance on different focal lengths, and you shot the pictures on different focal lengths.
nice video! But maybe you should consider to also turn back the sharpning to 0 when u check the noise, as this function also generate kind of artificial noise to suggest a sharp picture. Claiming at high level, i know 😉
thanks, I thought there was a huge difference in ISO between xxD and xD canon models. But in fact, that's almost the same... I saved 3000$ thanks to you :)
well done!
What's clearly vivid is that only 80D doesn't produce anymore this terrible checked pattern when boosting ISO100 image. The noise is very soft, even with +5EV.
not necessarily more noise at iso320, but definitely more chromatic aberration
But you can't directly compare ISO 100 on a FF body to a crop body. You need to apply the crop factor.
Orange no this was legit, at the end of the day u just want the best image out of your shooting situation based on the camera u have, he didnt mention what lenses he used tho
Look at the top left corner..........
great!
thanks fo information 😊
Thank You, Thank You!
Hi, congratulations for your excellent explanation. Should you compare the 80D vs T6S or T6i?
good job!
Good one, i have the 70d and like it a lot.
Would like a back up cam body and thinking 80d?
This helps- thanks!
Will you be testing the new 90D.
We reallly need to cut this DR stuff out and get the shots right in camera. Adjusting past a stop in any camera starts to introduce noise and color degradation. Expose the shot correctly from the beginning.
Please which would you advise me to get between the Canon 80D and Canon 5D mark III
5D Mk III has a bigger image sensor so you can fit more into a photo, so if you're doing landscapes that may be a better option. Otherwise 80D is cheaper and more all-round photography good.
out of the 3 which one would you use for Video? Im looking to get another camera and im looking for a full frame camera. as of right now my best bet is for the 80D but what is you thoughts on that?
With iso 3200 and shutter at 1/1000th are you possibly dealing with different amounts of light from flickering studio lights? Ie refresh rate of your light
It will be interesting 70d vs 6d vs 5d mark iii
which firmware releases per camera have been used for this test?
may an older FW for instance on the 70D/5Diii impact the results?
What is the price with the 80D body and 18-200 lens please?
can you make a high-speed photography video please? :)
Does 80D have expandable ISO to 50? If so, will it lower noise in boosted shadows (if I expose twice longer), in comparison to ISO 100?
Missed the 6D
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Hello! Please compare the new EOS 90D to 80D and 5D Mark IV in terms of dynamic range. 90D has 2 generations newer imaging processor (DIGIC 8) than 80D (DIGIC 6) so maybe they even kept improving their sensors? If so, I might consider not switching to Sony :]
yeah, sony is really tempting, especially for video and indoor shooting, I am currently in a no conclusion situation between 80d and A6300, the 80d has better focus but the 4k and the much much cleaner image of a6300 makes it really tough, Only thing keeping me to stay canon is the cheaper lens options, 50mn f1.8 stm costs around 80 usd for canon while it costs around 300usd for sony,
also the canon body is 100usd cheaper than the sony,
but still I can't settle down
80D with 200ISO is vey good
awesome vid, more kinda comparison like this. it will be awesome if you invovle some nikon or sony in test
Could you compare eos200d and 80d? 200d is certainly an amateur body but it has quite high DR, according to DxOmark: 13.4 EV, more that 80D's 13.2 EV. I'm sooo curious how this new little body would manage boosting underexposed images in postpro. Is it iso-less or at least close to that? There's no DR chart in DxOmark for 200d. However, there is one for 80D and it IS truly iso-less, which we cannot tell about 5DmkIII... Be ashamed, full-frames! I'm gonna do my work on APS-C and stick to it.
which camera ll be better 70d or 80d ??
Great video! 👍🙂
same test with the 7d ii vs 80d
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If you want to have a budget lightning, find a storm over an open field, take an old umbrella, point the umbrella upwards and wait for the thunderbolt :]
i wont lie, your older editing style was quite bland, but now with the 3rd person camera style and little pop ins make the video much more enjoyable.
I'll try my best to keep it interesting :)
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Interesting
5 stops up means what in the real world? Who does that? Whats the point?
What are you doing here? Go find some beginner videos about photography.
why?
Chris Anagnostakos 1 stop brighter means double the amount of light. 5 stops mean you double the amount of light 5 times.
Thank you for your kind explanation.
Chris, people often do it who are new to photography and don’t know how to expose and have to recover mistakes or mishaps. For landscapes with massive dynamic range, pros often combine exposures, or use a half graduated neutral density filter. If a new photographer blows the exposure, it’s really good to have good dynamic range, which is why you see cheap digital cameras having good DR, vs film cameras which have a very narrow latitude. With chrome (slide film) the dr is maybe 1/2 stop. When you learn to expose properly, DR becomes a lot more unimportant. But it’s a great feature to have for beginners.
Mmmm Oreos :)
you don`t go 5 stops at a dynamic range test... a 3 stops maximum... not so useful... I was interested in the 5d3 in particular but the video is not relevant to me...
5 stops is an extreme example, but you can get an idea of what 3 stops would look like, obviously the 80D is better than the 5Diii in this regard. The 5D IV is also similar as they've improved the dynamic range (retained shadow detail) which has been notoriously lacking for a LONG time in most Canon cameras. Sony / Nikon has had way more latitude in their raw files when under exposed for SO LONG now. They're still ahead, but at least 80D and 5D IV have finally improved.
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lol, i died. thx for responding!
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If you admit to be wrong the first time, how can I believe that you are right at all this time? LOL. Stopped watching...
Had to give this video a dislike for the misinformation... dear god..
Thank you. I have the 70D and was wondering if an upgrade to either the 80D or 5DIII would be worth, mmmm OREO COOKIES, I am going to get some Oreos and keep my 70D.
+Dev Watton ALWAYS go for the Oreos ;)
The 80D has MUCH better focusing and a higher pixel count (24MP) than the 70D. The sensor works better in low light, has wider dynamic range and incredibly fast focus even when using the rear LCD screen. When it comes to video its no contest.
Got both cameras, and the 80D is so much better for videos. For still photography, well the upgrade might not justify the price.